My current scooter came with tires that are like a hybrid between road and off-road tires. They have all the benefits of road tires but are also pretty good off-road because of the raised treads it has but does not wear on street riding like off road tires do.
My first scooter had offroad tires and I loved the sound🤪. On my present scooter I always ran road tires and it was waaaaay different -> no noise, lot smoother, more efficient(maybe, couldn’t tell a difference efficiency wise), but now I have a flat tire and I purchased some offroad tires again! Just because the sound they make is soooooo cool 😎!!!
Wonderful video sir, as always. My Zero 11X came with road tires and they performed surprisingly well off-road. If anyone wants to get the Zero 11X, heed my warning: Although the rims split, it is IMPOSIBLE to remove them the classic way like on the Zero 10X. You have two ways of removing them: 1. Unplug the motor wire from the deck (must open the deck). 2. Cut the wire and solder plug-and-play car connectors over which you apply thermo contractible insulation tape. I found the second one to be more efficient. Hope that helped someone. I nearly died changing the back tire after a puncture. Trust me, it took a whole new level of desperation to cut the motor cable on my brand new 3500 euros scooter. But it works, it's waterproof and it does not overheat so...thumbs up? :D
Yeah the split rim being on the wrong side is bloody stupid. What kind of wire is it to the motor, how many inner wires? Just 2, positive and negative?
On my Inokim Ox, I started with the 2.5 x 10 road tires, but in even slightly wet conditions, the scooter would often slide sideways. Hell, even in dry conditions, slow speed turns would sometimes cause it to slide. I switched over the 3.0 x 10 hybrid all-terrain tires, and not once did the scooter slide, even in very wet conditions. I always assumed that the studs were helping to keep it upright, and I even managed to recover from slides many times. These types of tires have very thick studs, but they're places close together so the overall pressure and wear is more evenly spread. Then, I got the Vsett 10+ which has 3.0 x 10 road tires fitted as standard. Despite the higher speeds and its desire to keep pulling, it feels much more stable. Evidently, the studs may not have had an effect on stability at all, and having the wider tire was what was keeping me upright more of the time. The main benefit I did find with hybrid all-terrain tires was puncture reduction. The road tires on the Inokim were notorious for punctures even when inflated properly and when using tube slime. It wasn't caused by pinching, but by debris. I've not had a puncture on the Vsett yet, but I've got some hybrid tires lined up just in case. Acceleration on hybrid tires is slower than road tires, and there's more vibration and slightly lower top speed, but maybe those trade-offs are worth it for puncture reduction. Full offroad tires aren't something I'd find a use for, but they're really not optimised for riding on tarmac. They'll certainly do the job, but less effectively than the other options.
Glad I waited to comment. most people wouldn't have mentioned that off road tires wear and heat up and at high speeds have led to tire failure and injury. I would have recommended off road for off road and road for road. if needing to be on paved roads or trails then a SHORT distance is fine with off road tires. but the cost is also something to consider as well as strain on motors from the off road tire use on roads. Still a great video, what has been stated by you is infarct factual and can be proven, unlike some videos where people just tell us what the manufacture says and claims or use their own opinion as fact when they have no actual backing to what they say. This is why I subbed, You have provided factual information. Cheers mate!!!!!
That's what this channel is all about! Testing for ourselves to see what things are really capable of. Most scooter channels just regurgitate the same manufacturer information or leave out the bad parts intentionally to get more clicks on their affiliate links.
Excellent video. Comparison between the two tire types and some footage of both, described which use cases are good for each type of tire, and went over the wear and tear on each type vs the terrain they’re used on. Just how it should be! Keep it up.
Yeah! Like how a good hybrid tire would be designed, electric scooters arnt that good when it comes to logical choices for half the stuff but everything electric is quickly getting smarter and better
excellent point! and with the anti puncture technology (non liquid, thick gel layer, self sealing/self healing) hybrid on/off road tire. that will be great!
@@RadiantFreeEnergyResearch yeah, I already have that thick gel layer on my blade GT and it works really well, that special hybrid tire tho, such a good idea, the normal off road tires are designed terribly bececause ive been useing them for 2 weeks and ive already burned thru more than have the tread
I have both sets for my zero 10x. I do like the off road tires for the hum they put out in alerting ppl ahead of me where as the road tires are so quite.But if your into top speed then the road tires are the best choice.drag is minimal and cornering is far more positive feeling.I have only road tires for my Weped SST
You’re not lying about changing those tires. I did it for the first time. Took me over an hour. I was about ready to throw the scooter away. I had all the tools to take it off too. My friend works at a tire shop he told me to buy tire lube. So I bought some. Getting the beed to set I struggled with a little. Tomorrow I’m doing the front tire with it. So will see the difference.
Please, please, come back and report the difference. I'm having trouble with the finicky tire right now actually and was considering buying some tire lube last night. I just need the bead to set in one spot of the tire and cannot get it to pop for the life of me.
Hey so I finally got to putting that tire on. I tried to email but didn’t work. Well I changed the front tire on my mantis 8. Still sucked changing but the product I used is called TIRE MOUNTING LIQUID LUBE. Kinda pricey but you get a gallon of it. It worked great. I definitely recommend. Made setting the tire a lot easier too. Also made taking the tire off as well. Hope this help. Keep up the great reviews.
Great timing for this video, the PMT 100/55-6.5's I ordered came in today :D I haven't mounted them yet but even the rubber feels better than the rubber of my stock off road tyres.
I got put On Off Road Tyres on my Ninebot max G 30 and it Sounds so Wonderfull for now! I Love This Sounds when iam Crusing with it at 44 kp/H (Tuned Scooter)
I agree with you! I have the Zero 8X (as ive said before if you remember) and it has solid road tyres. I drive it like 50/50 on tarmac and gravel and even though there is no air in the tyres I havnt had any issues on gravel and its silky smooth on tarmac. The sound from your offroad tyres reminds me of F1-cars when you get the "on board" camera view :)
I love the off-road tire sound on pavement! Makes you sound more aggressive when pulling up on cars on the road and in general.💪🏽😈 I guess I’ll be switching my off-road tires out every 500 miles🤷🏽♂️😃
I feel unsafe leaning too hard on curves with these off road tires. I think road tires will give me better curve traction for steeper leaning. Still waiting for them though...
U could try higher tyre pressures when using off road tyres on road.That way,any squirming will be due to flexing of just those block treads, instead of them&the tyre sidewall.Its what I do when I ride my mtb on road.(When I get off road,I let out some air back to the recommended levels).
Thanks bro, u pretty much said what I was thinking about road tyres being fine for off road too so yea, road tyres it is. U probably saved me a bit of money on tyres wiv ur video. 🤘🏼😜👍🏼
I'm building a scooter with 13in tires . Maybe 18,000w -10,000w I really haven't decided yet? Can 13 in tires fit on your wolf? Larger diameter will go over more turf, and last more miles?
I ride my WW over 50% off road. Thank God I have the Off Road Tires! My Zero 10X has on road tires and maybe if it had off road rubber than I would not curse at it all the time. I do remember riding her in Center City Philly last summer and loving every minute of it. This is it’s environment I thought to myself. The soft suspension are up all of the nasty city streets with ease and I saw the 10X in a new light. I still say to anyone who owns a 10X; Put a Steering Damper on that wobbly front end or you are going to meet God up close and personal if you go over 25 mph at all on occasion. That front end needs all the stability and help it can get!
This video was a huge help. I just assumed as a person who lives in the city and the only off-roading I would be doing is grassed parkland and some basic trails I needed the off-road tires bc its a Wolf Warrior and why would I get any else? Well I was dead wronggggg. Wolf Warrior with street tires is the correct setup for me. Thank you very very much.
Hello Ginger On Wheels - I am from Germany and would like to ask the name of the manufacturer of the off-road tires and what are the corresponding tire dimensions for a 13" rim - thank you very much !!!
If you live in a place that rains a lot with wet roads, Off-road tires gives you more traction on road in terms of braking/stopping distance performance.
I have flj 6000w 11inch tyres, had off road tyres 100, 6.5,6.5 on for 3yrs" its 60v full power, shunt mod and upgraded controller and an electric dump valve😮 The scooter is super quick superior to any moped!! The front tyre is now bald the rear still got life in but got a slow leak*. I now have the upgraded 105,6.5, 6.5 on road tyres, these are smoother,quiter, less battery loss, faster and take corners much better... love them...
My son and I both have Nanrobot D6+ scooters, which came with offroad tires. My son loves the sound they make (somewhat like a race car). I recently changed my tired to street tires and prefer it - so much smoother, especially at low speeds (that said, I use my scooter almost exclusively on the street and bike paths/lanes).
I know you can get a softer ride on pavement with the road tires, but I totally love the badass look and hum sound off-road tires make. I don't ride my scoots daily so I should get a little bit of longevity out of my off-road tires. I think I probably will keep my off-road tires on my scooter for now.
@@GingerOnWheels #Aliexpress ￡9.08 15%OFF | 11 inch Off Road Semi Off-road Vacuum Tire Inflatable Tubeless Tyre for Electric Scooter Speedual Plus Zero 11X Dualtron Thunder a.aliexpress.com/_BSqzfK They are the ones in the center.
Ginger, can you make a video about charging your scooters using a smart charger (example Cycle Satiator out of Canada). For what these top scooters cost, I would like to know the best (easiest) solution to maintaining long battery life. Most included chargers can't be limited to 80-90% state of charge.
How long does it take to change from Street to Offroad tires? Sounds like the process from some comments may be difficult but would about buying premounted wheel/tires so you have both?
Have you ever checked how good the magnest holding up inside the motor since you do a lot of off roading and ride in the rain. Some waterproof the rim and spray the magnets to avoid the rust.
@@GingerOnWheels It should not be any specific brand or scooter related, it is simply magnets starting to oxidise and rust which is pretty normal to all motors, and it starts to oxidise quite fast, usually can see on the magnets after couple of months.
@@TheChazas I've had my wolf for a year. I have somewhere between three and four thousand miles on it now I think. I've ridden it through rain storms, ankle-deep mud, and snow. It still works just like it did when I got it.
Have managed to get about 2500km (~1550miles) (so far) out of my offroad tyres on the Wolf Warrior 11GT. Front tyre is still pretty good but the right side of the back tyre is gone. Like, whole side is missing all grip. Mostly road and gravel riding. That's with me being ~120kg/265lbs. Pretty much constantly running both wheel motors. Over here we are pretty heavily speed limited which probably makes a decent difference. Plan is to try the road tyres next (not keen on doing the actual swap).
If you're looking at the 10" tires, are the off-road tires 10" in diameter if you go from top of the knob to top of the knob? So basically if you wear down the knows enough, you basically have a 9.5 inch tire? Or does the 10" represent the base of the knob to base of the knob? Street tire is easier to decipher what the 10" diameter is..
changing tyre, put 3-4 small thin cargo straps with rachet, bought from pound/dollar store through the rim of the wheel/tyre tighten. i had the stock off roads that wore off quick, in bought a set off Canadian company about a year ago and they have hardly worn, i still have the road tyres that i was going to have used by now but these tyres have lasted much longer than expected. i got a police chase with the off roads on when it was raining and couldn't find much traction even with the off roads on. i find if you warm the tyres up they stick to the road better on bends and turns. all in all there is not a major difference love the sound too
hey. quick question from a newb... just got an ix5 from iscooter (didn't want to invest much and needed the good autonomy that about 500€ could offer). conditions... i drive it only on asphalt and concrete. the concrete part is about 70% of the time... the way the concrete was poured it has some tall-ish ridges... just over 1 inch every about 20ft... also, i ride it mostly at night/early morning (dark), with temperatures of around 35-40 farenheit on rain. question time... the scooter came with off-road tyres. do you think i should change to road tyres or not?
Ginger I have a question, I'm new to the e-scooter scene, I bought a d99 and I'm quite happy with it, it's a bit too heavy but very powerful. I do have a question about water, on the manual they say not to ride the scooter on water, but they don't say why... So it got me a bit worried, is it because of the driver safety for not to fall or is it because the scooter is not waterproof? I don't want to burn out my scooter.. The IP Rating is ipx5
Hello, looking at purchasing my first scooter. I plan to use it on my horse farm and at horse shows to reduce the amount of walking. Don’t need speed, don’t need high end, don’t need long distance, but want to be able ride on paved driveways, grass and importantly gravel. Haven’t been able to find any information about scooters and gravel. Also need to be able to lift it into a truck so preferably under 70lbs. Any help you could give I would appreciate.
Good stuff Ginger, very important info! I switch back and forth with tires now in this season I use offroad ones, damn I love how they sound on tarmac :D Like a WOLF!
How about HYBRID tires? Kaabo seems to be recommending them on the Mantis GT PRO KING for general use and NOT the street tire. In fact VOROMOTORS, one of their major distributors doesn't even carry it with street tires... Is this the new normal 2 yrs down the road...? Thanks
I'd love to see a dualsport 60/40 tire for this. How long did the tire change take and would you attempt yourself with proper tools like a proper jig? @11:06 you switch scoots. Did you have the max mounted to the wolf's rack as your final mile PEV?
I might try it myself someday if I ever move farther away from Rev Rides, but for now its worth the drive down there to not have to do it myself. The tire change took 2 guys a couple hours to do. I would also like to see a hybrid tire, I think that'd be the best of both worlds.
@@GingerOnWheels I'm going to talk with my machinist friend and see if we can design a jig that would allow you to change the tire without disconnecting the cable. I'm not sure how much slack there is but maybe there is no way around that. Either way having a jig to rest the wheel in and using proper tools would be a major help maybe this is part of the reason the Wolf is $1000 less than the Thunder.
thanks, just the perfect video I was looking for thinking of kaabo mantis v2 and want to go 3inch tires and was wondering which to choose.....think the City-Road one will be enough offroad for me, they are less road then the stock and look like will handle wet and light offroad better even the semi-offroad look too offroad for my needs, let alone the offroad ones
Hey GOW! Great video and inspiring tutorial. Very interesting insight into both offroad vs road tires. Your favorite song, do you mind sharing the name or the artist? Thank you again, I own a D4+ with 740 miles on original offroad tires but I feel like NYC roads as bad as they may be do not do justice to offroad tires. I will try out 10 x 3.0 road tires to see if I feel a difference. Keep on rolling safely my good sir!
I just found Leonell last week and pretty much fell in love with all his songs. Definitely will be using more of them and I gotta remember to include in the description!
i have a p1+ 2400w i have 2 of them i plan on putting off road ties on one and the other i have i want to try PMT ties am getting my suspension sorted out later this year or next then all will be good in the hood
I have significant experience on a crotch rocket and a dirt bike on the road. While the knobby tires don’t offer the dry traction of road tires, they are more consistent through various surfaces. So make a list of surfaces you may encounter on the scooter. The road tires are going to be a 10/10 on the road and lets say the off-road tires are an 8/10. Then we have wet leaves, gravel, mud, dirt, grass, all kinds of stuff. The road tires might fair well on some of these surfaces, but occasionally you will have next to zero traction. You will hardly ever encounter a situation where you gave close to zero traction on off road tires. They are more consistent through the various surfaces and you are probably less likely to fall with them. I feel like traction consistency is far more important than max road grip when it comes to something as dangerous as our scooters. I’ve only had my off-road tires on, and I love carving on pavement, but I don’t think I’m going to switch them and increase the chances of falling.
Yea but also scooter offroad tires heat up fast! On pavement. And Hester to the point they get squishy. And feel unsafe. I I changed out my offroad tired with in 80 miles due to this problem. Turning feot horrible. 10×3 inch touvt street tires feel 10 times better to me. Especially at 40+ mph
Hello Rickydabarber. I made prob the worst mistake a consumer could probably make. I really didnt do much research before buying my scooter. I bought the roadrunner D4.4.0. Im in N.Y.C. My commute is only one mile. These streets are so bad all i could think about was the double "c" suspension. So i almost had to settle with the 2.0 instead of the 4.0. But i was so happy when they lowered the price "sale" 400.00 off. So i was so happy that i was able to afford the 4.0 instead of the 2.0. So i ordered. Im very happy with it. Ive read its the same shell as the nanrobot D4 3.0. But im not sure if every detail is the same for example sinewave controller. Not sure if nanorobot has that too. Anyways what would happen if i purchase rs5 1200 watt motors or switch the battery to a more powerful battery. Would i get more speed ive only got it to 37mph. And do u think if i buy road tires them italian ones, do u think i could squeeze out a little more speed. Maybe 3 mph. Or is that too much to ask for? From tire change. Thanks for u and your videos im learning a lot now.
Excellent video master, my question about road and all-terrain tires... do you think there is a possibility that all-terrain tires slow down a little... because they have less grip on the pavement? I don't know if I explain myself...? For example... is it possible that my scooter with all-terrain tires can deliver a maximum speed of 50mph while with road tires it can reach up to about 55mph?
Absolutely. Off-road tires do slow down your ride a bit. In my experience they can shave up to 5mph off top speed, and also negatively impact range. Hybrid tires are my favorite right now.
I wonder if on-road tires would add to the stability of my ultra 2 at high speeds? It seems like it doesn't handle as well as I think it should with the stock off-road tires that came on it.
So did everyone else have to cut and rewire the engine an controller wires to fit through the frame/rotor/bearings etc its looking like thats what i have to do and i'm wondering what connectors to use, i'm thinking wago ive got about 1000 miles on my oem parts and i want to change everything.
I have had 2 flat tires on my apollo ghost in under 6 months i installed armordillos after the 1st flat but it made no difference. I'm thinking about getting offroad tires for my ghost cause maybe they won't get flats as much.
I bought a kugo g5 which was modified and had road wheels. Everyone told me that they are better than the stock ones (offroad). In my eye, it looks like offroad wheels make the scooter higher.. is this true?
Bro where did you get your mud fenders? I have an vsett 8 but I can't find decent mud guards who actually guards my scooter from mud. Hope you can help me
Ginger....what's up bro.... so what do the street tires look like when there ready to replace. And I dont drive nor ever owned a scooter. So I know this question might sound stupid. There are little grooves in the wolf's street tires so do I change when it gets smooth and even with the inside of the groove or past that? Thanks for helping all of us!!!!!
You want to replace the street tires as soon as the rubber starts looking dry and cracked and has worn a significant portion of the tread down. I don't recommend driving with zero tread. Change before that.
@@GingerOnWheels just ordered wolf king gt pro cannot wait love your channel brother burn rubber not your soul huge shout out from canada keep doing your thing u made me love the kaboo great reviews
handle bars seem narrow is there a way to extend them outword or is it possible to replace them with a bike handlebars? im still debating on which tires i shud stick with. my work is a 1.1 mile away with no bus. i work in wyoming n roafs arent always paved n if they are tons of cracks n pits. it also snows during Oct- Feb. i wud hate to constantly change out my tires every season but i guess theres no other option. kinda wish escooters wud have a quick detach for when i need to change tires by season idk what escooter ur using but do they offer replacement rims n tires? i might have to buy 2 sets one for normal road n one set for snowy seasons vs replacing tires to the rim which is a pain
Great video...thank you. My scooter came with 11" 90/65-6.5 knobby tires but I ride 95% on the road so makes no sense for me to use off road tires. So bought a set of street tires to replace. I did notice knobbys are not too stable on hard cornering like it will slip from under me. I am not into speed but able to go 30-40mph. You and others mentioned replacement is very difficult however these were on 10X and Wolf. I plan to replace myself and wondering if the difficulty is specific to the type of set up on those scooters or to all knobby's. I am assuming street tires are easier to remove and install. BTW did I hear right...your scooter is 300lbs. I thought my scooter at 117lbs was outrageously heavy lol
@@GingerOnWheels lol I guess I heard wrong. I plan to replace my battery from 4-12V SLA to a 21700 custom Lithium Ion battery pack which will reduce my scooter's weight by about 30 lbs.and provides more speed and tons of range. So is the difficulty with replacing knobby tires only because it is small (11") and the tire is thick or because of the wheel setup?. Any tips or tricks on removal or installation? I have metal tire spoon levers and rim protectors. Thanks again and ride safe.
Ginger I have a Yume D5 with off road tires but I want the road tires. Now my scooter is pretty fast it has two 1200 watt motors its supposed to do 40mph but on a good day I'll get 34mph how much more speed can I get with the road tires it sounds like they spin quicker I know u said 3 to 5 mph but how much u think I'll really get thx??
Cool video dude, now i know what escooter to buy. What do you think about the Laotie ti30? I know it's kinda the chinese ripoff of the wolf but still if i manage to open it and make some adjustments it should be a beast
hey ginge whats that tune called were your on your warrior going down the power trail i luv that tune i want to download it so i can listen to it on my night rides mate😁😊
My current scooter came with tires that are like a hybrid between road and off-road tires. They have all the benefits of road tires but are also pretty good off-road because of the raised treads it has but does not wear on street riding like off road tires do.
I'm convinced people only like off-road tires because it makes the scooter sound cool, more like a motorcycle on the road.
You would be correct, sir
My first scooter had offroad tires and I loved the sound🤪. On my present scooter I always ran road tires and it was waaaaay different -> no noise, lot smoother, more efficient(maybe, couldn’t tell a difference efficiency wise), but now I have a flat tire and I purchased some offroad tires again! Just because the sound they make is soooooo cool 😎!!!
Ya, the sound is fun, for sure.
@@GingerOnWheels go road or off road tires for NYC??
Yeahhh the sound is amazin!
😅 Nice 👍🏾
Wonderful video sir, as always. My Zero 11X came with road tires and they performed surprisingly well off-road.
If anyone wants to get the Zero 11X, heed my warning:
Although the rims split, it is IMPOSIBLE to remove them the classic way like on the Zero 10X.
You have two ways of removing them:
1. Unplug the motor wire from the deck (must open the deck).
2. Cut the wire and solder plug-and-play car connectors over which you apply thermo contractible insulation tape.
I found the second one to be more efficient.
Hope that helped someone. I nearly died changing the back tire after a puncture.
Trust me, it took a whole new level of desperation to cut the motor cable on my brand new 3500 euros scooter. But it works, it's waterproof and it does not overheat so...thumbs up? :D
Yeah the split rim being on the wrong side is bloody stupid. What kind of wire is it to the motor, how many inner wires? Just 2, positive and negative?
@@garavonhoiwkenzoiber Inside the main housing there are 3 copper wires, not 2.
That's crazy. Good to know, thanks for sharing!
On my Inokim Ox, I started with the 2.5 x 10 road tires, but in even slightly wet conditions, the scooter would often slide sideways. Hell, even in dry conditions, slow speed turns would sometimes cause it to slide.
I switched over the 3.0 x 10 hybrid all-terrain tires, and not once did the scooter slide, even in very wet conditions. I always assumed that the studs were helping to keep it upright, and I even managed to recover from slides many times. These types of tires have very thick studs, but they're places close together so the overall pressure and wear is more evenly spread.
Then, I got the Vsett 10+ which has 3.0 x 10 road tires fitted as standard. Despite the higher speeds and its desire to keep pulling, it feels much more stable. Evidently, the studs may not have had an effect on stability at all, and having the wider tire was what was keeping me upright more of the time.
The main benefit I did find with hybrid all-terrain tires was puncture reduction. The road tires on the Inokim were notorious for punctures even when inflated properly and when using tube slime. It wasn't caused by pinching, but by debris. I've not had a puncture on the Vsett yet, but I've got some hybrid tires lined up just in case.
Acceleration on hybrid tires is slower than road tires, and there's more vibration and slightly lower top speed, but maybe those trade-offs are worth it for puncture reduction.
Full offroad tires aren't something I'd find a use for, but they're really not optimised for riding on tarmac. They'll certainly do the job, but less effectively than the other options.
How often did you get flats with all-terrain tires? Vs. Road tires?
I’ve switched to 10 x 3 semi offroad on my oxo and everything is so much better, slower max speed by 3-5 km/hr. But worth it for everything else
Glad I waited to comment. most people wouldn't have mentioned that off road tires wear and heat up and at high speeds have led to tire failure and injury. I would have recommended off road for off road and road for road. if needing to be on paved roads or trails then a SHORT distance is fine with off road tires. but the cost is also something to consider as well as strain on motors from the off road tire use on roads. Still a great video, what has been stated by you is infarct factual and can be proven, unlike some videos where people just tell us what the manufacture says and claims or use their own opinion as fact when they have no actual backing to what they say. This is why I subbed, You have provided factual information. Cheers mate!!!!!
That's what this channel is all about! Testing for ourselves to see what things are really capable of. Most scooter channels just regurgitate the same manufacturer information or leave out the bad parts intentionally to get more clicks on their affiliate links.
Excellent video. Comparison between the two tire types and some footage of both, described which use cases are good for each type of tire, and went over the wear and tear on each type vs the terrain they’re used on. Just how it should be! Keep it up.
Glad you liked it!
So you answer all question i have think off ....thanks man!! Your video is amazing!
Glad I could help!
As always, so informative. Doing the PEV community a great service 👍
I think we mostly need tires with one continuous strip in the center and knobby on the sides for mud or snowy conditions
Yeah! Like how a good hybrid tire would be designed, electric scooters arnt that good when it comes to logical choices for half the stuff but everything electric is quickly getting smarter and better
excellent point! and with the anti puncture technology (non liquid, thick gel layer, self sealing/self healing) hybrid on/off road tire. that will be great!
@@RadiantFreeEnergyResearch yeah, I already have that thick gel layer on my blade GT and it works really well, that special hybrid tire tho, such a good idea, the normal off road tires are designed terribly bececause ive been useing them for 2 weeks and ive already burned thru more than have the tread
I have both sets for my zero 10x.
I do like the off road tires for the hum they put out in alerting ppl ahead of me where as the road tires are so quite.But if your into top speed then the road tires are the best choice.drag is minimal and cornering is far more positive feeling.I have only road tires for my Weped SST
Oh, that's an aspect of the off-road tires that I hadn't thought about. Warning people youre coming
Your grammar is terrible. Like that of a 5 year old. 😅
@@_nom_ you're a weirdo 😂
I'm the only one that loves offroad tyres sound? Great video as always🤙🏻
Like I said at 11:45 , I quite enjoy it too. Thanks for stopping by, Daniel!
Perfect video man, this is exactly what I was looking for.
You’re not lying about changing those tires. I did it for the first time. Took me over an hour. I was about ready to throw the scooter away. I had all the tools to take it off too. My friend works at a tire shop he told me to buy tire lube. So I bought some. Getting the beed to set I struggled with a little. Tomorrow I’m doing the front tire with it. So will see the difference.
Please, please, come back and report the difference. I'm having trouble with the finicky tire right now actually and was considering buying some tire lube last night. I just need the bead to set in one spot of the tire and cannot get it to pop for the life of me.
@@GingerOnWheels I will tomorrow and if the brand is good I’ll send you the link.
Hey so I finally got to putting that tire on. I tried to email but didn’t work. Well I changed the front tire on my mantis 8. Still sucked changing but the product I used is called TIRE MOUNTING LIQUID LUBE. Kinda pricey but you get a gallon of it. It worked great. I definitely recommend. Made setting the tire a lot easier too. Also made taking the tire off as well. Hope this help. Keep up the great reviews.
Great timing for this video, the PMT 100/55-6.5's I ordered came in today :D
I haven't mounted them yet but even the rubber feels better than the rubber of my stock off road tyres.
Sweet! You'll have to let us know how they do!
I got put On Off Road Tyres on my Ninebot max G 30 and it Sounds so Wonderfull for now! I Love This Sounds when iam Crusing with it at 44 kp/H (Tuned Scooter)
Can you make or recommend a video where they show how to change out the tires on the Kaabo Wolf Warrior ll please?....
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Always enjoy your vidoes!
Thank you. That means a lot.
I agree with you! I have the Zero 8X (as ive said before if you remember) and it has solid road tyres. I drive it like 50/50 on tarmac and gravel and even though there is no air in the tyres I havnt had any issues on gravel and its silky smooth on tarmac.
The sound from your offroad tyres reminds me of F1-cars when you get the "on board" camera view :)
Glad you like your 8x, I hear that's a solid scooter. Noted, that the solid tires aren't horrible off-road.
You could expand on using diffrent tire pressures on offroad terrain, and how it can make a difference
I love the off-road tire sound on pavement! Makes you sound more aggressive when pulling up on cars on the road and in general.💪🏽😈 I guess I’ll be switching my off-road tires out every 500 miles🤷🏽♂️😃
Ya they do sound pretty freaking cool
Lol, I'm surprised you can even get that much. I find that I have to change mine out every 2 months or so, about 300 miles
Had to change my off road tires on the gt before 200 miles 😂
I feel unsafe leaning too hard on curves with these off road tires. I think road tires will give me better curve traction for steeper leaning. Still waiting for them though...
At 10:10 I took a corner going pretty fast , I agree if feels a little less sure of itself with the offroad tires, but they do work.
U could try higher tyre pressures when using off road tyres on road.That way,any squirming will be due to flexing of just those block treads, instead of them&the tyre sidewall.Its what I do when I ride my mtb on road.(When I get off road,I let out some air back to the recommended levels).
Exactly what I was looking to learn about!
I want to go get rubber cover around your front suspension if can send me the link thank you.
I been trying to run down my off road tires for 600 miles now. They don't give up. Got a nice new set of road tires just waiting to go to work.
Which are the most comfortable tires which are helping against these little shakes and shocks when riding over uneven ground? Thank you!
Probably hybrid or street tires but with low PSI.
Thanks bro, u pretty much said what I was thinking about road tyres being fine for off road too so yea, road tyres it is. U probably saved me a bit of money on tyres wiv ur video. 🤘🏼😜👍🏼
Hybrid tires are where its at for scooters tbh.
I'm building a scooter with 13in tires . Maybe 18,000w -10,000w I really haven't decided yet? Can 13 in tires fit on your wolf? Larger diameter will go over more turf, and last more miles?
I ride my WW over 50% off road. Thank God I have the Off Road Tires! My Zero 10X has on road tires and maybe if it had off road rubber than I would not curse at it all the time. I do remember riding her in Center City Philly last summer and loving every minute of it. This is it’s environment I thought to myself. The soft suspension are up all of the nasty city streets with ease and I saw the 10X in a new light. I still say to anyone who owns a 10X; Put a Steering Damper on that wobbly front end or you are going to meet God up close and personal if you go over 25 mph at all on occasion. That front end needs all the stability and help it can get!
Great video bro appreciate it
I have mantis 8 dual 500 motor. I have street tires. They offer plenty of fro off and on road for me, although my off-roading is extremely light
awesome video. You get better each time. Hey did you notice a speed increase on road with street tires?
Yes I did
This video was a huge help. I just assumed as a person who lives in the city and the only off-roading I would be doing is grassed parkland and some basic trails I needed the off-road tires bc its a Wolf Warrior and why would I get any else? Well I was dead wronggggg. Wolf Warrior with street tires is the correct setup for me. Thank you very very much.
Happy to help. Enjoy your Wolf! 🐺
How about the semi off road tyres?... I'm pondering a set of 10x3 Inch TUOVT Widened Pneumatic Semi off road for a VSETT 10+...
Great choice. Best of both worlds.
@@GingerOnWheels Trust your vids Gingerman..Kepp up the good work..
Hello Ginger On Wheels - I am from Germany and would like to ask the name of the manufacturer of the off-road tires and what are the corresponding tire dimensions for a 13" rim - thank you very much !!!
If you live in a place that rains a lot with wet roads, Off-road tires gives you more traction on road in terms of braking/stopping distance performance.
I have flj 6000w 11inch tyres, had off road tyres 100, 6.5,6.5 on for 3yrs" its 60v full power, shunt mod and upgraded controller and an electric dump valve😮 The scooter is super quick superior to any moped!! The front tyre is now bald the rear still got life in but got a slow leak*. I now have the upgraded 105,6.5, 6.5 on road tyres, these are smoother,quiter, less battery loss, faster and take corners much better... love them...
My son and I both have Nanrobot D6+ scooters, which came with offroad tires. My son loves the sound they make (somewhat like a race car). I recently changed my tired to street tires and prefer it - so much smoother, especially at low speeds (that said, I use my scooter almost exclusively on the street and bike paths/lanes).
I too prefer the road tires I think.
I know you can get a softer ride on pavement with the road tires, but I totally love the badass look and hum sound off-road tires make. I don't ride my scoots daily so I should get a little bit of longevity out of my off-road tires. I think I probably will keep my off-road tires on my scooter for now.
Sounds good to me.
They have the hybrid style as well. Haven't seen anyone with them mounted.
I might have to look into that. Seems perfect for me.
Do you have a link? I'm having a hard time finding them
I used to have hybrid tyres for my Escooter but they were 10x3inch.
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They are the ones in the center.
Aren't they what come on the nanrobot d6+??
Ginger, can you make a video about charging your scooters using a smart charger (example Cycle Satiator out of Canada). For what these top scooters cost, I would like to know the best (easiest) solution to maintaining long battery life. Most included chargers can't be limited to 80-90% state of charge.
Yup. Video about fast charging coming soon.
How long does it take to change from Street to Offroad tires? Sounds like the process from some comments may be difficult but would about buying premounted wheel/tires so you have both?
Have you ever checked how good the magnest holding up inside the motor since you do a lot of off roading and ride in the rain. Some waterproof the rim and spray the magnets to avoid the rust.
For me they are holding very well, I haven't got any issues with it, riding off-road every time. Other parts were broke but magnets holds fine :)
@@kicknight Not much rust so far? Even without riding in wet conditions it starts to oxidise and rust quite fast.
I have heard of this happening with the Ninebot Max, but not on the Wolf. Wolf is insanely solid. Zero issues with anything motor related for me.
@@GingerOnWheels It should not be any specific brand or scooter related, it is simply magnets starting to oxidise and rust which is pretty normal to all motors, and it starts to oxidise quite fast, usually can see on the magnets after couple of months.
@@TheChazas I've had my wolf for a year. I have somewhere between three and four thousand miles on it now I think. I've ridden it through rain storms, ankle-deep mud, and snow. It still works just like it did when I got it.
If my e scooter has 10" wheels could I upgrage the tire for the rim to be 11"? Thank you for posting this video, you're a confident driver.
great video as always ginger! road tires it is then!!! me like longevity. lol :D
Woo-hoo!
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Got a flat from a staple with my brand new e scooter has big knobs hit the sweet spot so now I’m waiting for the street tires to get here
Have managed to get about 2500km (~1550miles) (so far) out of my offroad tyres on the Wolf Warrior 11GT. Front tyre is still pretty good but the right side of the back tyre is gone. Like, whole side is missing all grip. Mostly road and gravel riding. That's with me being ~120kg/265lbs. Pretty much constantly running both wheel motors. Over here we are pretty heavily speed limited which probably makes a decent difference. Plan is to try the road tyres next (not keen on doing the actual swap).
If you're looking at the 10" tires, are the off-road tires 10" in diameter if you go from top of the knob to top of the knob? So basically if you wear down the knows enough, you basically have a 9.5 inch tire? Or does the 10" represent the base of the knob to base of the knob? Street tire is easier to decipher what the 10" diameter is..
The Nanrobot D6+ comes with off-road tires… Is there a reason for this? Is that strange? This is a very informative video.
I have it and it does amazing off road I think they did that to make it all terrain
changing tyre, put 3-4 small thin cargo straps with rachet, bought from pound/dollar store through the rim of the wheel/tyre tighten.
i had the stock off roads that wore off quick, in bought a set off Canadian company about a year ago and they have hardly worn, i still have the road tyres that i was going to have used by now but these tyres have lasted much longer than expected.
i got a police chase with the off roads on when it was raining and couldn't find much traction even with the off roads on.
i find if you warm the tyres up they stick to the road better on bends and turns.
all in all there is not a major difference
love the sound too
9:27
Nice knee guards...are those the X-Frames? If so, that's what I plan to get. 💪🏻🤓😎🤓😎🤓😎👍🏻
No they are the Leatt Dual Axis guards.
I have a Arwibon Q30 can do a video of how to change out off road and road from start to finish with installation
@ 9:21 are you sitting? Does this thing mount a chair? It sure looked like it but it was hard to tell.
No, kneeling down for better aerodynamics.
hey. quick question from a newb... just got an ix5 from iscooter (didn't want to invest much and needed the good autonomy that about 500€ could offer). conditions... i drive it only on asphalt and concrete. the concrete part is about 70% of the time... the way the concrete was poured it has some tall-ish ridges... just over 1 inch every about 20ft... also, i ride it mostly at night/early morning (dark), with temperatures of around 35-40 farenheit on rain. question time... the scooter came with off-road tyres. do you think i should change to road tyres or not?
Ginger I have a question, I'm new to the e-scooter scene, I bought a d99 and I'm quite happy with it, it's a bit too heavy but very powerful.
I do have a question about water, on the manual they say not to ride the scooter on water, but they don't say why... So it got me a bit worried, is it because of the driver safety for not to fall or is it because the scooter is not waterproof? I don't want to burn out my scooter.. The IP Rating is ipx5
You can short out the electronics in the scooter. I recently made a video all about water resistance.
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@@GingerOnWheels Thanks I'll check it out.
amazing video
Thank you!
I have the off road tires on my dual motor scooter and I really like it. I am when I can find a place near me that sells parts and repair.
Hello, looking at purchasing my first scooter. I plan to use it on my horse farm and at horse shows to reduce the amount of walking. Don’t need speed, don’t need high end, don’t need long distance, but want to be able ride on paved driveways, grass and importantly gravel. Haven’t been able to find any information about scooters and gravel. Also need to be able to lift it into a truck so preferably under 70lbs. Any help you could give I would appreciate.
Good stuff Ginger, very important info! I switch back and forth with tires now in this season I use offroad ones, damn I love how they sound on tarmac :D Like a WOLF!
Ya, they do sounds really cool. Scooter noise isn't an issue for me so I kind of like the NASCAR sound. :D
How about HYBRID tires? Kaabo seems to be recommending them on the Mantis GT PRO KING for general use and NOT the street tire. In fact VOROMOTORS, one of their major distributors doesn't even carry it with street tires... Is this the new normal 2 yrs down the road...? Thanks
I'd love to see a dualsport 60/40 tire for this. How long did the tire change take and would you attempt yourself with proper tools like a proper jig? @11:06 you switch scoots. Did you have the max mounted to the wolf's rack as your final mile PEV?
I might try it myself someday if I ever move farther away from Rev Rides, but for now its worth the drive down there to not have to do it myself. The tire change took 2 guys a couple hours to do. I would also like to see a hybrid tire, I think that'd be the best of both worlds.
@@GingerOnWheels I'm going to talk with my machinist friend and see if we can design a jig that would allow you to change the tire without disconnecting the cable. I'm not sure how much slack there is but maybe there is no way around that. Either way having a jig to rest the wheel in and using proper tools would be a major help maybe this is part of the reason the Wolf is $1000 less than the Thunder.
Loved It!
Thanks for your video. I ended up going with 3inch wide road tires. I loved the music in the background what's the aritist?
thanks, just the perfect video I was looking for
thinking of kaabo mantis v2 and want to go 3inch tires and was wondering which to choose.....think the City-Road one will be enough offroad for me, they are less road then the stock and look like will handle wet and light offroad better
even the semi-offroad look too offroad for my needs, let alone the offroad ones
Hey GOW! Great video and inspiring tutorial. Very interesting insight into both offroad vs road tires. Your favorite song, do you mind sharing the name or the artist? Thank you again, I own a D4+ with 740 miles on original offroad tires but I feel like NYC roads as bad as they may be do not do justice to offroad tires. I will try out 10 x 3.0 road tires to see if I feel a difference. Keep on rolling safely my good sir!
You have an amazing place to ride!
148th in Bellevue near Microsoft. Nice riding!
What is that song playing during your tyre noise test? I like it
Out of time - Leonell Cassio
@@InduIgence thanks
I just found Leonell last week and pretty much fell in love with all his songs. Definitely will be using more of them and I gotta remember to include in the description!
i have a p1+ 2400w i have 2 of them i plan on putting off road ties on one and the other i have i want to try PMT ties am getting my suspension sorted out later this year or next then all will be good in the hood
I have significant experience on a crotch rocket and a dirt bike on the road. While the knobby tires don’t offer the dry traction of road tires, they are more consistent through various surfaces.
So make a list of surfaces you may encounter on the scooter. The road tires are going to be a 10/10 on the road and lets say the off-road tires are an 8/10. Then we have wet leaves, gravel, mud, dirt, grass, all kinds of stuff. The road tires might fair well on some of these surfaces, but occasionally you will have next to zero traction. You will hardly ever encounter a situation where you gave close to zero traction on off road tires. They are more consistent through the various surfaces and you are probably less likely to fall with them. I feel like traction consistency is far more important than max road grip when it comes to something as dangerous as our scooters. I’ve only had my off-road tires on, and I love carving on pavement, but I don’t think I’m going to switch them and increase the chances of falling.
Yea but also scooter offroad tires heat up fast! On pavement. And Hester to the point they get squishy. And feel unsafe. I I changed out my offroad tired with in 80 miles due to this problem. Turning feot horrible. 10×3 inch touvt street tires feel 10 times better to me. Especially at 40+ mph
Should you have your tyre pumped rock hard or a little bit under the recommended psi? Tia
I live in NYC so for me it's a no-brainer = road tires; tubeless vacuum tires if possible.
Hello Rickydabarber. I made prob the worst mistake a consumer could probably make. I really didnt do much research before buying my scooter. I bought the roadrunner D4.4.0. Im in N.Y.C. My commute is only one mile. These streets are so bad all i could think about was the double "c" suspension. So i almost had to settle with the 2.0 instead of the 4.0. But i was so happy when they lowered the price "sale" 400.00 off. So i was so happy that i was able to afford the 4.0 instead of the 2.0. So i ordered. Im very happy with it. Ive read its the same shell as the nanrobot D4 3.0. But im not sure if every detail is the same for example sinewave controller. Not sure if nanorobot has that too. Anyways what would happen if i purchase rs5 1200 watt motors or switch the battery to a more powerful battery. Would i get more speed ive only got it to 37mph. And do u think if i buy road tires them italian ones, do u think i could squeeze out a little more speed. Maybe 3 mph. Or is that too much to ask for? From tire change. Thanks for u and your videos im learning a lot now.
Pretty interesting! Thank you!
FOR ROAD USE ONLY DID THE ROAD TIRE S GIVE YOU BETTER BATTERY RANGE.
Excellent video master, my question about road and all-terrain tires... do you think there is a possibility that all-terrain tires slow down a little... because they have less grip on the pavement? I don't know if I explain myself...? For example... is it possible that my scooter with all-terrain tires can deliver a maximum speed of 50mph while with road tires it can reach up to about 55mph?
Absolutely. Off-road tires do slow down your ride a bit. In my experience they can shave up to 5mph off top speed, and also negatively impact range. Hybrid tires are my favorite right now.
Can you add extended 🔋 for kaabo warrior? If so wich one is best?
I wonder if on-road tires would add to the stability of my ultra 2 at high speeds? It seems like it doesn't handle as well as I think it should with the stock off-road tires that came on it.
So did everyone else have to cut and rewire the engine an controller wires to fit through the frame/rotor/bearings etc its looking like thats what i have to do and i'm wondering what connectors to use, i'm thinking wago ive got about 1000 miles on my oem parts and i want to change everything.
I have had 2 flat tires on my apollo ghost in under 6 months i installed armordillos after the 1st flat but it made no difference. I'm thinking about getting offroad tires for my ghost cause maybe they won't get flats as much.
Just ordered “all season” 10 x 3 tires. A little different than off road. Curious to see how they perform.
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I bought a kugo g5 which was modified and had road wheels. Everyone told me that they are better than the stock ones (offroad). In my eye, it looks like offroad wheels make the scooter higher.. is this true?
Bro where did you get your mud fenders? I have an vsett 8 but I can't find decent mud guards who actually guards my scooter from mud. Hope you can help me
Ginger....what's up bro.... so what do the street tires look like when there ready to replace. And I dont drive nor ever owned a scooter. So I know this question might sound stupid. There are little grooves in the wolf's street tires so do I change when it gets smooth and even with the inside of the groove or past that? Thanks for helping all of us!!!!!
You want to replace the street tires as soon as the rubber starts looking dry and cracked and has worn a significant portion of the tread down. I don't recommend driving with zero tread. Change before that.
Isnt road tires more slippery in watery conditions than offroad tires?
hey, great vid, help a lot, cause i was about to swap my street tires for the off-road on my zero 10x, and i'll just keep the street 👍
Good call!
Is there anyway to install a seat? thanks for video 👍
Really wish someone near me had a wolf warrior so I could race one would be interesting to see
What are you riding now?
@@GingerOnWheels just ordered wolf king gt pro cannot wait love your channel brother burn rubber not your soul huge shout out from canada keep doing your thing u made me love the kaboo great reviews
how do you mount Dust Cuff, Shock Absorber on your WW 11? do you have to take off the whole damper?
Slice the covers down the middle in the back, slip them over the suspension tube and zip tie them.
handle bars seem narrow is there a way to extend them outword or is it possible to replace them with a bike handlebars?
im still debating on which tires i shud stick with. my work is a 1.1 mile away with no bus. i work in wyoming n roafs arent always paved n if they are tons of cracks n pits. it also snows during Oct- Feb.
i wud hate to constantly change out my tires every season but i guess theres no other option. kinda wish escooters wud have a quick detach for when i need to change tires by season
idk what escooter ur using but do they offer replacement rims n tires? i might have to buy 2 sets one for normal road n one set for snowy seasons vs replacing tires to the rim which is a pain
Great video...thank you. My scooter came with 11" 90/65-6.5 knobby tires but I ride 95% on the road so makes no sense for me to use off road tires. So bought a set of street tires to replace. I did notice knobbys are not too stable on hard cornering like it will slip from under me. I am not into speed but able to go 30-40mph. You and others mentioned replacement is very difficult however these were on 10X and Wolf. I plan to replace myself and wondering if the difficulty is specific to the type of set up on those scooters or to all knobby's. I am assuming street tires are easier to remove and install. BTW did I hear right...your scooter is 300lbs. I thought my scooter at 117lbs was outrageously heavy lol
My scooter is 300lbs Including me! I'm 200 scooter is 100.
@@GingerOnWheels lol I guess I heard wrong. I plan to replace my battery from 4-12V SLA to a 21700 custom Lithium Ion battery pack which will reduce my scooter's weight by about 30 lbs.and provides more speed and tons of range. So is the difficulty with replacing knobby tires only because it is small (11") and the tire is thick or because of the wheel setup?. Any tips or tricks on removal or installation? I have metal tire spoon levers and rim protectors. Thanks again and ride safe.
Ginger I have a Yume D5 with off road tires but I want the road tires. Now my scooter is pretty fast it has two 1200 watt motors its supposed to do 40mph but on a good day I'll get 34mph how much more speed can I get with the road tires it sounds like they spin quicker I know u said 3 to 5 mph but how much u think I'll really get thx??
It'll be a very unexciting difference. Maybe 35-36, if you give it time to build up to that speed.
I have a EVERCROSS H5 came stock with off road tires I ride on the street 10x2.70-6.5
Good info. Many thanks
Glad to help!
Did I understand correctly, - that the street tire has 3 times the lifespan?
Cool video dude, now i know what escooter to buy. What do you think about the Laotie ti30? I know it's kinda the chinese ripoff of the wolf but still if i manage to open it and make some adjustments it should be a beast
Hey brotha I just realized your in the pnw. I'm in vancouver
Isn't there some middle ground between Street & Off Road tires? A medium tread tire?
Yup. Hybrid tires. I've only seen them on 10" scooters but they probably make an 11" too.
hey ginge whats that tune called were your on your warrior going down the power trail i luv that tune i want to download it so i can listen to it on my night rides mate😁😊
You're going to have to give me a link with a timestamp. I'm not sure when you're talking about.
@@GingerOnWheels it's the we ride at dusk kaabo wolf warrior were your having a ride after work.
@@austieoutdoors9763 can you comment on the video with a timestamp to the spot you're talking about though?