Jerry Falwell tells all on PTL "Baker" scandal and more!
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2017
- 1987-Jim and Tammy Faye Baker Scandal which involved Jessica Hahn and "hush money". Falwell talks about growing up with servants, an agnostic and alchoholic father. He discusses the Moral Majority, the religious right, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, segregation, The Assemblies of God, Old Time Gospel Hour and his Thomas Road Baptist Church.
Jerry Falwell was an American Southern Baptist pastor, televangelist, and conservative activist.[2] He was the founding pastor of the Thomas Road Baptist Church, a megachurch in Lynchburg, Virginia. He founded Lynchburg Christian Academy (now Liberty Christian Academy) in 1967 and Liberty University in 1971 and co-founded the Moral Majority in 1979. He died at age 73 on May 15, 2007.
"I stepped in because I saw an opportunity to take in a large amount of money for my personal use and gain more notoriety. To paraphrase, I'm a complete scumbag."
That sums it up
Yes exactly
Something something camel, eye of a needle, something something Matthew 19:24, something something
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I think he was wrong for telling such personal matters about Jim's affair and sexuality as well as reading Tammy's request. Farwell was so wrong in coming out publicly the way he did.
TY Rhonda
I think it wasn't a good idea forcing him to be interviewed by a catholic.
I believe Jerry was jealous of Jim Bakker's successes. When Bakker became vulnerable, He jumped at the opportunity to take over.
Agree. I don't think for one minute that the Bakkers would hand over every for ever. No, it was Jerry's greed that made him keep it. I also don't approve of him "disclosing" homosexual" activities about Jim Bakker. There is no evidence for that
@Xandra101-xj8ef apparently Jim Bakker was involved in numerous homosexual activities. I wasn't sorry that he went to prison. Like most homos, he probably enjoyed being incarcerated 😂
You got that right❤❤
Very good possibilities & look closely bc pot ailing pot black & it came home to roost with his son &daughterr in law
Nothing has or will ever come out of mixing politics and religion
If Jim had listened to Tammy and not surrendered to Jerry, who knows how this would have played out?
And I really don't know how Tammy dealt with Jim all those years....With out Tammy there would have never been a PTL.
R I P Tammy Faye🙏🙏🙏
Oh please, she liked and worshipped the money as much as Jim did.
Amen!
Falwell’s son has now been exposed for his own sins of sexual adultery- exposure in this season.
Soooo, god overlooked Abuse of Power, Grift, Theft, Kickbacks, Harassment, Unprofessionalism, Cruelty, Theft, and Betrayal
...but gets angry when his wife gets off to a new guy?...
Something is really wrong here...
And has his father's name....how ironic
its called Karma.
Exactly‼️
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Don’t throw stones in a glass house, Rev Falwell.
Great questions you asked. Terrific interview, Ms. Prose. Thank you!
It was separate and equal you are raciest
Why would a minister, such as Mr. Falwell, feel the need to disclose conversations meant to be confidential? Not only did he give the date when he meet Jim Bakker he had to mention Tammy Bakker was being treated for addiction.
Publicity, couldn't keep his trap shut.
It was sabotage
Kick 'em while they're down.
Its just like trusting your cell mate .. a crook is a crook is a crook.
I also wondering why these preachers exposing their fellow preacher how unholy and hypocrisy, didn't the Bible says that we are to carry each others burdens and most of all they are doing it in front of unbelievers shame on them
He sure seems awful happy about their downfall. Perhaps more concerned with the almighty dollar rather than the Almighty
Jim's biggest mistake was trusting Jerry Falwell!
actually it was getting into bed with Jessica.
@@rhondagregory5253 and all those gay guys too....
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His biggest mistake was all thee above.
@@rhondagregory5253 no, it was getting caught. Do you think these other TV preachers in bed with other people you better go wake the hell up. Your husband probably cheated on you more than once..
The problem in some preachers is many of them want their mansions now and all the trappings that go with it
And here on this Earth, they have their rewards.
I was there at PTL during all of this...before and after. My grandparents would go often and take me with them and boy did I pay attention. So this whole story intrigues me to this day. I saw some horrible things tho.....like gospel legend Vestal Goodman being spoken to and handled horribly after the takeover. So those were Jerry's people. She was denied access into the studio taping. It was wild. Thanks for posting.
ty God bless u
what ever happened to Rickys house?
The Sound first sang my biggest song on the PTL its a shame it went down. I loved Tammy and Jim.
Rev Falwell, a great great man of the faith
*I'm sure there are other religious crooks you can follow*
ty Eileen 4 posting this may God save u if your not
Farwell betrayed them at their lowest point
Yes he did! I remember Jerry Falwell made it seem like he was helping the Bakkers but he was really out to get them
I trusted the Lord Jesus Christ as my personel Saviour while watching The Old Time Gospel Hour and DR Jerry Falwell back in 1981.
Just like many did the same watching the Bakker's and PTL. No matter who delivers the Gospel Message it can fall on good and bad soil. However, the Word of God will never return void.
That doesn't stop them from being crooks
@@estherfarris3802 Well...then if you have ever lied...then I guess that makes you a liar for all eternity ?
@@theirmom4723 this is the weakest argument ive ever heard on this matter… Obama’s inaugural speech - which had nothing to do with this - has more weight than what you just said… These people are not just liars and thieves, they are preachers. Preachers are supposedly so close to God that they can be placed in the positions of leading Christs flock… They then turn around and take advantage of their flock in the worst possible way… If there is a hell, there MUST be a special place there for such…
@@theirmom4723Weak comparison. Falwell is a conman preaching to people about the supposed morality of God. The commenter you responded to is just some normal person.
How could Jerry Falwell forgive the Bakkers? The Bakkers did nothing against him. It was not his place to "forgive" them
As the late Christopher Hitchens said of Falwell, "Give him an enema and you could bury him in a matchbox."
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The late Mr. Hitchens knew what he was talking about. In fact, if that Jerry Falwell was still around, that POS would be making excuses for Donald Trump. In his heyday, Falwell was a racist bigot; taught his only child and namesake to be likewise. At least the late Larry Flynt put that hypocrite in his place back in the 80s up to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Amazing how he could blatantly lie right to people's faces with a smile on his face!
About what? So prejudiced, these anti-Baptists.
Falwell asked for Jim and Tammy to put all of their needs on a piece of paper so the board of PTL could work out a deal, as soon as they wrote it down, he ran to the cameras.
Another wrong by Falwell! We had our Assistant Pastor step down at our church for adultery. He came forward to address the church. The senior pastor did not tell the church his sin; it wasn't his sin to tell. It was not Falwell's place to tell all about Jim's sins.
Jerry Falwell swooped in like a vulture and flew PTL into the ground.
What do you think was going to happen to PTL otherwise? It had already come apart.. just hadn't hit the ground in pieces yet.
I agree fully. He was from a very rival denomination who would not have approved of charismatic movement. I am disgusted at him making those homosexual comments.
@@Xandra101-xj8efWhy? Jim participated in homosexual activities for years 😂
Great video. Thanks for posting this interview.
Since this interview we all pretty much know what happened. Heritage USA was closed and fell into ruins. Ole Jerry here has since pasted away along with Tammy Faye. Ole Jimmy boi went to prison for 5 yes. But within the last few years part of the old Heritage USA has been purchased and revitalized by another religious organization ( steer clear of that one too). But ironically the big winner in all this has been Jimmy boi. He's been back with a new wifey and ministry still conning ppl out their money with his doomsday propaganda. Haven't we learn anything from this?! I guess not
With some folks (not all) they haven't. For example, Jim Bakker has gone back to his criminal ways; he got into trouble with his phoney baloney "cure" for COVID19. Then there's Junior Falwell with the pool boy and his fitness trainer. And don't get me started with that new millennium rev. Ike (i.e. Creflo Dollar), Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen... YET: folks are still stupid enough to give these troublemaking charlatans their money so they can live high off the 🐖?! In my personal opinion, since there's others refuse now to kow tow to such sanctimonious 🐗💩 the best thing is to REVOKE the tax exempt status the IRS treat them like for profit entities.
Be fair. They were in debt for millions of dollars so there was no saving that mess.
How 'SICK' is this nation !
It's all Babylon, brother. We host the flag of another.
thanks for posting this
I was impressed with this interview. thank you for posting. I liked it very much.
Good Ol' Jerry was a worm...if he felt threatened the first rabbit he pulled out of the hat was sexual sin...Which Bakker was found guilty of...however, when all else failed...then you were gay. Couldn't stand the man.
Bless these imperfect humans Lord and protect us from the wolves that wear wool. God is not business.... not financial business. Smh
Tammy Faye was gentle natured and kind.
Loved Tammy!
And a drugged up, adulterous hedonist.
Boy, Karma is so real. . .
A horrible greedy and jealous man who ruined a lot of peoples lives. Nothing but contempt for him.
And your proof is? Who cares about your contempt? Not me.
are you referring to jim baker?
@@wannawatchu66 Falwell didn't even KNOW Bakker. Here he took it upon himself to take over PTL simply because he wanted the satellite facilities. What a scumbag he was.
And he created the culture that has culminated in Donald Trump. Yes, Fuck Jerry Falwell!
He oozes self-righteousness and delight in admonishing them publicly. Gross.
fascinating interview
Wolves in sheep's clothing.
Timely, thank you.
Tax all these con artists!
Tammy Faye Baker tells a different story about Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson. She states that Jerry came to them and took advantage of Jim doing his time of despair and try to take over their ministry. What many do not know is that the 700 club was Jim Bakers idea Jim was the original host of the 700 club. Pat Robison at the time was struggling in the ratings and Jim and Tammy came on board and the rating went up and Pat threw them out and took their ideas and made it his own.
The late Tammy Faye and the late Jerry Falwell have been judged bt our heavenly Father. The other relious persons will be judged by Him too all in due time.
Well, you've misspelled "Bakker," and "Robertson." May not sound like much to the casual observer, but if you're going to go after them the way you are, you might want to at least do the homework that'll enable you to spell their names correctly. Sounds like you're just parroting hearsay anyway because the story *I've* heard Tammy Faye tell doesn't match yours.
Yet she had fonder memories of Robertson than she did of Falwell. She could hardly contain her contempt for him.
@@lennmathis8694 Lenn, there would only be praise of Jerry. Jerry absolutely was more intelligent and loving then 95% of all former leaders, Presidents, and Commanders in all of world history. Why would you not know this. To think you would vote for the opposite ? WTF is wrong with your thought process?
Yes this is the truth . Falwell was a disgrace and a ling thief .
I’m sure it took great effort for Falwell to walk upright into the studio instead of slithering in on his belly
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If you don't have love for your fallen brother you don't have Christ in Heart .. All this nasty man did was push this people down , when he should have helped them up...
well said.
Falwell swooped in and took over offering his "christian love" in return for the ownership of the Satellite Network which he got
Actually, Falwell and Oral Roberts both wanted the satellite network and both bid on it. But the ministry's court-appointed trustee stopped both deals. It ended up being sold to Morris Cerullo of The Inspiration Network (INSP) in 1989 during the bankrupt sale. I also think Falwell had his eye on the Satellite from the beginning.
Jerry Falwell had no intention of turning PTL over to the Assemblies of God denomination, who would have gladly taken it. The former General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God he mentioned was Rev. Thomas Zimmerman.
Jerry Falwell was probably the biggest fake of all. He looked like a used car salesman
I believe he exploited and lied to Jim and Tammy, but I know Jerry Falwell has now stood before Jesus, and whatever He deemed correct, has happened. I have faith that justice has been served. Even Tammy said that she just hoped that Falwell got things right before God, because thats who he has to answer to.
Well, absent with the body, present with the Lord, so there's that. Yes, we all await judgment believer or not. I dont claim to KNOW where Jerry Falwell is, but best be sure that he was judged before he either went into the presence of Christ... or didnt.
Reading my Bible turned me into an Atheist. Google Bible contradictions
God has clearly given you free will Sugar....but be aware, your choice to reject God means you will choose eternal Hell. This is not a joke, and it’s not an accident that you’re reading this. God is love, you’ll continue walking lost without Him.
@@braapchop5925 prove it 😂😂😂😂
“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.“
2 Peter 3:3
Here we are in 2023. Just surfing youtube and caught this old video from the past. Lessons learned from all these fallen so-called "leaders". I'm including the recent Ravi Zacharias too. They seem to get so caught up in the ministry with success and power that they lose sight of right and wrong, boundaries, and rules. They are no different from the draw of temptation and sin. May these examples be a guide to all pastors and church leaders to avoid this behavior and just do the right thing under God.
How Christian of Jerry here.Starting off slandering.And he stepped in for $$$$$$$
Hi Eileen--This is a great interview. I live in Virginia, and Jerry Falwell's influence was giant in this state. I have never been a fan of Falwell, but as an historic figure, this interview is valuable. Thanks for posting this.
-Bob Hickman
Thank you Bob. I really appreciate your comments. So glad you watched the interview. Best wishes......
all he wanted was the PTL ministry
Good interview. Mr. Falwell gave outstanding answers to some tough questions. Much respect to him.
She is a wonderful, unbiased interviewer...not like many today. I like and respect Falwell more after watching this video.
Falwell freaked me out! He always just gave me a weird vibe. And I’m a Christian.
Yeah, I get that feeling about him as well.
Yes, me, too. Such a smug pride about him.
Same here. I never trusted him. Always felt something was off with him.
Trust your gut.
After Jerry tried to steal PTL, he didn't live long after. Jim Baker is still alive and well.
Jerry Falwell was not a friend to Jim Bakker he was mean spirited I can't believe he was a Paster he acted and behaved more like a private investigator.
+Sandy Simoes, Im sorry that you feel that way. Jerry was a great man and took care of the problems of other Christian leaders that could not do their job correctly. There are many people in this world that hate people that are better than them or have more love then them, and for some reason will never admit a man is good and deserving of being great. He was not a private investigator, he was just the most intelligent and he could discern people and their ignorance (master Psychologist without needing a PHD ) which many people despise for an unknown reason.
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Farewell is a sad traitor. He let the world know...he hurt them. He had no right to do what he did. It was cruel, and heartbreaking.
I would love to know what made Farwell did to be so perfect.
Reminds me of the Trumpsters now tearing each other apart LOL
@@kirklevitt8813 Really? Thanks to Biden for tearing our country apart. Loser.
Well Falwell wasn't a Peter puffer like Jim Bakker 😂
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We believe in tithing, we believe in offering, and it’s GOD, that tell people what to give. Jerry Falwell is very blessed. He is a true Christian not a Catholic calling him a Christian, or a Mormon, saying that they’re Christians, or Baptist, even saying that they’re Christians! These are all denominations, denomination is the same as demonetization.
He was a racist, stop being ignorant
Falwell was a conniving snake....
I like the slip at 9:09 "the biggest sin the Falwells committed"
I'm glad you had to stand before God and answer for your sins !!!! What a a hypocrite this person was !! He stepped in because he was greedy human being!!!!
Phyllis, Thanks for watching and commenting! Blessings to you...
Phyllis Strausbaugh he still don’t get it because he said God take us as we are like that was necessary to say while including the black family may he’s the one that’s wasn’t desirable!
Jerry Falwell did the right thing...someone had to step in and clean up the Bakker mess. Everything we do, say and think comes back to us an hundred-fold; the Law of Karma; cast your bread upon the waters...etc. God did not support what Jim and Tammy were up to...they fell big time.
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+Phyllis, WRONG and INSANELY IGNORANT, do you live in America? This country has serious issues if people do not even know a great and intelligent man and to hold him high with adoration and love.
Jerry Falwell resented them. He defamed them with so much hate.
Eileen,
Jim Bakker is back on TV doing the exact thing that landed him in prison. Unbelievable!!
And what is that?
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Are you serious? Jim is back on TV asking people for money after writing his book by the title I WAS WRONG. Jim is a con artist. The gospel of prosperity is a false gospel.
@@SoCal90755 search “Jim baker show” you’ll see it. He’s built a whole community in Branson MO.
You're wrong
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I am not wrong. He is back on TV asking for money. Once a scam artist always a scam artist.
Remembering this as it was happening...Sadly Jim trusted this lie of a man . In those days 1987 people were still fast to react to a sin which scared Jim Bakker into trusting this man . The world then saw what Jerry did as in the destruction of Heritage Usa . The man was a terrible man . Show me one thing this man did that was Christ like .
@9:02. Freudian slip “ looking back what is the biggest sin the “ Falwell’s committed “. Wow.
Best interview I have seen with this nutcase. The interviewer wasted no time trying to figure what he is about. I wish this lady was on CNN, she could show them how it,s done.
well bakker is still alive and falwell is dead.
GOD CUT THIS MINISTRY DOWN!!! Absolutely "every interview" (after its fall) by every person deeply involved shows this to be true (Jim, Tammy, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell). It became too much for everyone. It required an agenda & focus that "was not truly about Jesus Christ" while using that name. Jim Baker said it began simply trying to serve God but as excitement grew, it became "How to be more exciting. And more and more." GOD ALLOWED OR CAUSED THIS TO HAPPEN!
It seems like Falwell and his advisors didn’t even do research on Jim and Tammy before grabbing PTL. That speaks to his character and and i believe he just wanted the ministry for himself. When he figured out the deep water PTL was in: he bailed! What’s wrong with this picture?
Mr self righteous, judge and jury of the Bakkers. Throw the 1st stone if you are sinless. God says if you repent and ask for forgiveness, he will wipe away all your sins and he won't even remember your sins. Not Jerry Falwell sr. This man is one of the cruelist I've come across.
Never cared for jerry Fawell
Not a fan.
He with out sin cast the first stone
Don't be ignorant, the word is for correction, don't pull out one scripture
John 9:35 Jesus heard that that they had thrown him out, when he found him, he said, Do you believe in the son of man?” 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Jesus said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you; 38 Then the man said, Lord, I believe; and he worshipped him.💕
Jerry Falwell and Jimmy Swaggert wanted and conspired to tear down PTL.
I think it's disgusting for especially a pastor to pass judgment..Jerry Falwell is not God, who is the only one who can pass judgment !
I don't know his intent for sharing the secret sins of the Bakkers. However, I do agree with him that the Bakker's should have made their relationships with God and their children a priority instead of trying to keep their leadership positions at PTL. They lost their way. I hope they found/find their way back.
Jerry was racist, stop being ignorant
I don't know what to say after some of these comments on Falwell. He sent me a large bible I can read I really enjoyed this bible. My mouth fell open when I heard him telling things about PTL.
Con artist conning a con artist!
Jerry is worse then Jim! Clearly jealous of Jim as well!
She asked if she was saved and Falwell made it all about him!
Jerry has always looked evil to me!
You got that right
My family and I we're involved with the ministry! What Jerry did was right! People around the world, let alone the PTL community needed to know the truth! Jerry had issues but there we're other issues with depts such as the choir! Half came because of PTL and others because God sent us down! Jam m didn't learn anything in jail and is doing the same thing now with another ministry
Good to see this comment from someone who knows what they’re talking about, as opposed to all these commentators who think they’re experts because they saw the misleading Jessica Chastain movie
Falwell jumped at the opportunity to take Bakker down.
He would have done it to Paul and Jan too
He comes from a corrupt background as this interviewer just tried to expose.
This man is scum
he is no one to talk
Thanks for this interview. I loved it. I think he preached the good news of Jesus Christ to the best of his ability.
Bakker or Falwell ?
Fraudsters both trying to distance themselves from each other.
This man is full of it. He openly opposed the civil rights movement and interracial marriage.
He is the Devil Incarnate.....Jim & Tammy worked hard and he was jealous of their success and honesty and spirit.
Wrong, they were Charlatans.
How was any of this Jerry's business?? It was about as 'none of his business' as it could possibly get.
This is more of a shoot interview on PTL as well as a burial of the Jim and Tammy. Falwell got himself over in this interview.
As a Wotanist we have a precept... Truth fears no investigation....
I love Jerry. He did the right thing.
The tongue is a deadly member, and it speaks evil and good. Words are seeds. So let us remember the sower and the seed. A sower went forth a sowed some seed, some fell by the way side, some fell on stony ground, and some fell amongst the thorns. The seed that fell by the way side are those that hear the word, and the evil one comes and snatches it away. The seed that fell on the stony ground, are those that hear the word and receive it with gladness, and then they forget what they heard, and the devil takes it from them. Now the seed that fell among the thorns are those that hear the word and the cares of the world takes them away.
Now, the seed that falls on the good soil are those that hear the word and receive it and brings forth fruit. Amen'
Now the tongue is a deadly asp, it speaks evil things, as well as good things. Jesus said, whatsoever a man speaks from the heart, it can either defile a man, or save a man. So if a man speaks anything, let him speak good things.
God bless you, and that is the teaching today. Let every man keep in mind, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reap also.
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''Amen'''
Shalom
+Roger Griffith, Thank you my friend, it seems peoples hatred of goodness is what keeps them from ever making this world a truly loving and intelligent place. It is terrible the evil in this world.
Evangelist Roger Griffith Beautiful! Amen...
P T L = pocketing the loot
From one crook to the other give me that money.
And Falwell was probably living larger than them.
It would have been nice if you had the chance to interview Tammy Faye and had her side of the story. Mr.Falwell, died before Tammy Faye and she found forgiveness in heart before she died. To me still find it strange that Mr.Falwell and Tammy Faye died in the same year with in few months part. I hope one day you can interview people who run TBN and Daystar, because I would like to get their side of the story. Please know that I do not watch or support TBN or Daystar. But, I do still believe in Jesus and in God, but I would never allow my self to become wealthy on God's word.
Jason, Yes, it would have been nice to meet her and hear her side of the story. It always helps the interviewer to know both sides. Thanks Jason for your words. Blessings to you....
no one is to become wealthy on Gods Word---- like Jesus said-- sell all that you have and follow Me.....
Jason Gibson There are MILLIONS of souls that are SAVED today bc someone was on TBN sharing JESUS! Why any Christian would hate that is BEYOND ME. And trust me, I worked at TBN for 15 years and AINT NOBODY GETTING RICH THERE dummy!
Woe to America turned their back on the LIVING GOD!
Falwell was a price of work and just as greedy and slimy as the Bakkers. His son equally so which has proved our publicly. These people who line their pockets of the faith of people who watch them on TV is disgusting. No question the Bakkers needed to fall. No question either that Falwell took great joy in sticking it to someone who had held greater success than he had.
All these comments attacking Falwell-interesting you don't see any need to make a judgement on Tammy Fae and Jim's outrageous hypocrisy though
I don't think most people condone what the Bakers did, but Falwell seemed to use fake friendship with the Bakers to throw them under the bus and take what he wanted from the ministry. People are pointing out that Falwell was also wrong in the way he handled everything. The people that worked there and the shareholders were the ones that suffered the most.
They fell like King David. The prophet Nathan told David what his punishment would be and carried it out. But David remained King until his death.
Peas in the same pod!
8:57 mrv Farwell tysn how come God let king David as a king after he sinned? that leaves a question mark in my mind ..
Jerry Falwell…. Cringe!
Real Journalism
Was the meeting between Jim and Tammy and Jerry Falwall at Pat Robertson's home early in their ministry, as depicted in "The Eyes of Tammy Faye", fictionalized?
I think that whole movie was fictionalised
Tammy's affair was fictionalized for sure because all that is on record is that she flirted with someone else's husband. Probably 80% of it is exaggerated or just complete fiction altogether.
"Looking back the biggest sin the Falwell's committed..." she asked. (9:00) An obvious misstatement.
+John Locke. She made the mistake of saying it ignorant and hateful FOOL, Jerry simply did not correct her because he took her ignorance and by passed it to get to the main conclusion. Has Ignorance has become you John? Think you are hilarious and a man of importance ? You will be cursed from this day for your bitter ignorance and your curse is your own disgusting and worthless ignorance. All accidental deaths, horrible manslaughter, murders, rapes, and criminal actions are caused by this ignorance or mental derangement as Jerry would say.
Or God's will.