I created a BOOMING ECONOMY out of a LITERAL ROCK

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  • @EmporerDragon
    @EmporerDragon Рік тому +514

    Part 2 needs to see Jan Mayen enter into an unholy alliance with Oregon. All will fear the banners of the beaver and the bear.

    • @killermetalwolf2843
      @killermetalwolf2843 Рік тому +3

      fr fr

    • @jetex1911
      @jetex1911 Рік тому +10

      I need this pairing, I haven't seen an independent non-player Oregon until now and they need to survive

  • @R0dolphus
    @R0dolphus Рік тому +163

    Fun Jan Mayen fact!
    Brendan the Navigator, who found the island, thought he had found the gates of hell due to volcanic activity in the area.

    • @aminatandour589
      @aminatandour589 Рік тому +10

      Lol!

    • @sicksock435446
      @sicksock435446 Рік тому +10

      Fun Jan Mayen fact!
      Brendan the Navigator, who thought he found the gates of hell, was actually 1700km North of the actual gates of hell, located in Glasgow Scottland...

  • @kabobawsome
    @kabobawsome Рік тому +347

    So, Jan Mayen is not it's own state. It's a split state with Northern Norway. When you get annexed, re-merges the split states, and it stops tracking that split state and merges all of Northern Norway's buildings and doesn't actually track where each one is. Then, when you release it, *that's* when the game decides what buildings and population are, and it decides based on physical size. Since Jan Mayen is a tiny rock in the ocean, and the rest of Northern Norway is fairly big, it assigns no buildings and a tiny population. Even though literally yesterday, it was one of the most prosperous economies in the world.
    Oh, yeah, and the devastation you saw later, even though there was not even a physical connection.
    OH YEAH, AND THE REALLY AWFUL FACT THAT YOU CAN JUST MARCH ONTO AN ISOLATED ISLAND LIKE THE WATER WASN'T EVEN THERE.
    The split state system is REALLY dumb and pretty bad and needs to be overhauled.

    • @ChrissieBear
      @ChrissieBear Рік тому +31

      Yeah, the split state system is fairly poorly designed.

    • @KissatenYoba
      @KissatenYoba Рік тому +35

      split state system allows for better performance. It's a self-incurred problem of wanting to have a lot of small provinces you can walk over, thus having to optimize buildings and pop systems somehow (putting them all into states rather than tying them directly to provinces). But then Vic 2 also did this for optimization reasons

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome Рік тому +30

      @@KissatenYoba It causes so so many more problems than in Vic2. It would be so easy just to have small background provinces (the game already does this for colonization and fronts) and assign each building and a percentage of the population to those provinces, but still do the calculations at state-level. The when a state is split it actually makes sense rather than teleporting an entire nation's worth of buildings and people across the sea.
      And, again, the game should be tracking what is and isn't connected by land. Oh, and the game should be smart enough to apply devastation in a reasonable manner to split states.

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Рік тому +10

      ​@@KissatenYoba And this begs the question then of : why would they need so many provinces if they are used for LITERALLY NOTHING, because even the military system it's just ...... a single battle and the armies take like 6 provinces or something so what's the point of having so many ?
      It's like "we need a huge number of provinces for the game, but this many provinces destroy the game's performance so we're going to shift every calculation to state instead, but with a really broken system. Now that we have made a ton of concessions that made the game worse off to have our ten quadrillion provinces, we're going to do nothing with them 🙂"

    • @KissatenYoba
      @KissatenYoba Рік тому +2

      @@sephikong8323 presumably it has something to do with release CK3-era engine. IIRC they wanted to make CK3's map expandable with it's baronies? Maybe it's the opposite, they cut out Vic3's provinces when making CK3 (CK3 uses Vic3's portrait engine, so Vic3 was in development longer than CK3)

  • @Leo.V
    @Leo.V Рік тому +67

    Jan Mayem in EU4: ''I AM THE DESTROYER OF THIS WORLD, ALL SHALL FEAR ME''
    Jan Mayen in Vicky3: Hello i'm smol

    • @mikipiupew4107
      @mikipiupew4107 Рік тому +3

      Is there a Jan Mayen in eu4?

    • @earnurearendil7324
      @earnurearendil7324 Рік тому +5

      ​@@mikipiupew4107 the command to summon Jan Mayen is
      Thebearhaslanded

  • @willtheturtle7039
    @willtheturtle7039 Рік тому +334

    Nice rock bro

  • @deyknor
    @deyknor Рік тому +76

    2:50 Laith: Hey game can I have a good country?
    Game: Only a spoonful.
    Laith: *Pulls out a comically small spoon*

  • @zero_gravity5861
    @zero_gravity5861 Рік тому +233

    thank you so much for not pronouncing it like the spiffing brit did. thank you, laith. thank you.

  • @Zelein
    @Zelein Рік тому +28

    Laith, playing as Jan Meyen: "I'm the main character in this campaign."
    Meanwhile, in Oregon: "BEAVER FEVER!"

  • @finleyengland1099
    @finleyengland1099 Рік тому +27

    i think it's funny you start with 5k population when it has like 30 residents irl

    • @benjamintomassennordahl7911
      @benjamintomassennordahl7911 Рік тому +8

      The island technically dosn't have any permanent residents just staff from the Norwegian Defence, Norwegian Metrological Organisation, and visiting geologists. None of which live there permanently, but are working there from a couple of weeks to a couple of months.

    • @Erikasoul1-q6n
      @Erikasoul1-q6n Рік тому +1

      @@benjamintomassennordahl7911 Im gonna be the first

    • @benjamintomassennordahl7911
      @benjamintomassennordahl7911 Рік тому +1

      @@Erikasoul1-q6n I mean you would have to be squatting on Norwegian department of defence territory...

  • @Swerving01
    @Swerving01 Рік тому +22

    That Quebec joke was top tier

  • @TheJonnyjoh
    @TheJonnyjoh Рік тому +25

    I'd love to know how on earth half a million people even find room to sleep on this rock in the northern atlantic ocean. xD

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 Рік тому +9

      It's only 3,500 people per square mile or 1,340 people per square kilometer if the glaciers are also used, and 5,000 people per square mile or 1,920 people per square kilometer if the glaciers are off limits. This would make it incredibly dense, but it's not up to Kowloon Walled City levels of extreme so it's not surpassing anything the world has ever created yet.

    • @TheJonnyjoh
      @TheJonnyjoh Рік тому +10

      @@efulmer8675 Considering this is during the industrialization, I'd say it would be even worse, because they don't have the luxury of highrise buildings xD

    • @pedrokiihl856
      @pedrokiihl856 11 місяців тому +2

      @@efulmer8675 you should take into consideration that it's the mid 1850's, no modern sewage system and dense apartments to house everyone. People are probably living inside caves or shoddy houses everywhere

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 11 місяців тому +2

      @@pedrokiihl856 Yes of course, I was merely pointing out that it doesnt exceed any historical precedents for population density so the people can absolutely all *fit* on the island. The real questions lie in how do they get enough *supplies?*

  • @chazbrown1139
    @chazbrown1139 Рік тому +30

    Would love to see this one continue where he makes Jan Mayen Scandinavia but not forming it

    • @oracle372
      @oracle372 Рік тому

      No that would PHYSICALLY HURT, he HAS to actually form it

    • @oracle372
      @oracle372 Рік тому +5

      Actually, the color is really nice so I change my mind

  • @duphasdan
    @duphasdan Рік тому +1

    I honestly wonder what the layout of any city on that island would look like. Looking at a real world map, practically half the island is a volcano, and the other half is mostly mountain looking with few places with flat enough area. The middle part is the flattest part, and even then it is mostly sandy beach and thin.

  • @duncanr3313
    @duncanr3313 Рік тому +4

    I’m astonished at how you play this game. I need a tutorial so I can build an economy

  • @oneofmanyjames-es1643
    @oneofmanyjames-es1643 Рік тому +4

    Isn't this the one Spiffing Brit did?

  • @CJ21326
    @CJ21326 Рік тому +3

    Everybody: this is copying the spifing Brit 💀💀💀💀😳🚽

  • @sahilanand4654
    @sahilanand4654 Рік тому +32

    I really like these videos where you start at rock bottom

  • @tsarevichivan
    @tsarevichivan Рік тому +21

    when jan mayen has a larger population than wyoming

  • @LlamasAtMidnight
    @LlamasAtMidnight Рік тому +1

    17:10 I see that wonderful jump cut

  • @diseabronx5075
    @diseabronx5075 Рік тому +4

    Malta rules the waves. You can do it!! Also yes more Jan Mayan.

  • @socratichero6612
    @socratichero6612 Рік тому +1

    Technically the current King of England is Glucksburg thru his father, but instead goes by Hanover

  • @КириллТрифонов-е5ф

    "We can continue this campain in the future"
    But I want it NOW!!! *Destroys an entire room*

  • @oracle372
    @oracle372 Рік тому +1

    Okay, they NEED to fix that bug where all the buildings and people disappear

  • @deformem6622
    @deformem6622 Рік тому

    This island got 15 people today, and you managed to cramp half a million there

  • @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
    @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc Рік тому +5

    I'd definitely watch a part 2 of this video. If you want even more of a challenge, could you try and win a war with Russia and take Finland?

  • @anonymousperson4350
    @anonymousperson4350 Рік тому +1

    Jan Mayen kinda looks like Norway, if they were facing the wrong way

  • @efulmer8675
    @efulmer8675 Рік тому

    20:30 You can overcome the Overpopulation modifier (-100% at maximum penalty) by having a Trade Center (+25%), using the Greener Grass Campaign decree (+50%), having Loyal Intelligentsia (+25% or +50%), and following the Path to Liberalism journal which will allow you to get a permanent +25% migration attraction modifier for your entire country.

  • @misielo2424
    @misielo2424 Рік тому +1

    Spiffing Brit would be proud of you.

  • @Hadar1991
    @Hadar1991 Рік тому

    Today on Jan Mayen lives up to 35 people, while probably 200 men was max population that this Island ever have. The fact you start with 5,000 people is just bonkers.

  • @TheGraulund
    @TheGraulund Рік тому

    i did a Hawaian game where i stayed on the islands and built high. very fun save. joined the Austrian market early on and just stayed there. my literacy was at around 98% and my GDP went above 50 million. i enjoy your videoes - keep up the good work :D

  • @datmufn
    @datmufn Рік тому +1

    Spif better be earning royalties on this 😂

  • @commissarkordoshky219
    @commissarkordoshky219 Рік тому +2

    Paradox games - especially Stellaris can have me waste a whole day and then make me stare off into the distance thinking about what it all means. . .
    Then I start a newgame xD

  • @Naughtychilee
    @Naughtychilee 10 місяців тому

    Kinda funny how he aughed at the name of the king, when the king of norway has the exact same name.

  • @Gamereal6286
    @Gamereal6286 Рік тому +11

    Laith:"Why do I build Steel? I am ill and yet my vision is true I've never seen clearer in my life"
    By the way did you study philosophy too? Because that wasn't bad. But it was funny seeing you play on the island I used to watch on Spiffs Channel :) Part two would be fun

  • @johnnotrealname8168
    @johnnotrealname8168 Рік тому

    What is weird is that as a subject you are still under a Monarchy.

  • @felipea1399
    @felipea1399 Рік тому +1

    Selk Nam was uncentralized which is crazy considering how high the standard of livong was

  • @Arez-hu6nr
    @Arez-hu6nr Рік тому +1

    I have been waiting for this series

  • @YourLocalMairaaboo
    @YourLocalMairaaboo Рік тому

    Jan mayen is a split state. All your buildings are going to the other, bigger half of the state, which means some random coastal town in norway gets the buildings and population.

  • @TheCriminalViolin
    @TheCriminalViolin Рік тому

    Definitely need to see a continuation of Jan Mayen! EMPIRE OF THE ROCK!!!

  • @kevxjn
    @kevxjn 3 місяці тому

    Someone could help me understanding why that gdp was so high at like two minutes from the start

  • @chihaya2299
    @chihaya2299 Рік тому

    Create an economy out of a rock is what the neighboring Icelanders proud of.

  • @ck9292
    @ck9292 Рік тому +1

    Jan Mayen is a really nice, calming green. I like it! Also, please keep playing this campaign. Long live Jan Mayens!

  • @Steve_the_Radroach
    @Steve_the_Radroach Рік тому

    Nice to see someone else tackle Jan Mayern

  • @mikipiupew4107
    @mikipiupew4107 Рік тому

    As of today, 36 people live in Jan Mayen

  • @kvarts1554
    @kvarts1554 Рік тому

    Did you know that the of name of the king of Norway IRL is Harald and he is of the house of Glücksburg?

  • @kimyeonahchannel
    @kimyeonahchannel Рік тому

    If I'm not wrong, domineering attitude when you're already their subject basically means that they want to declare war on you to further integrate you (puppeting or full annex)

  • @groerhahn225
    @groerhahn225 Рік тому

    For quite some time, he had the amount of radicals in his country constantly flickering between 5 and 6. I imagine this group of 6 meeting in a barn once every week, but Steve can't come half the time because he's very commited to make it in the amateur snooker league and has important copetitions some days.

  • @edis0088
    @edis0088 Рік тому

    Why it stole your buildings, is because jan mayen is a split state off northern norway. So when you got annexed, all the buildings and people moved to northern norway.

  • @ratzinger3814
    @ratzinger3814 Рік тому +1

    17:09 ??? what he say???

  • @thatponybro6940
    @thatponybro6940 Рік тому

    is Greenland a playable releaseable in Vicky 3, cause that sounds like torture

  • @xenon_413
    @xenon_413 Рік тому

    First time I've heard of Northern Norway being taken for it's arable land.

  • @CumradFluffy
    @CumradFluffy Рік тому

    "Revolutionary Québec"
    *Smiles*

  • @muhdiqbal08
    @muhdiqbal08 11 місяців тому

    We need a part 2 !

  • @gustavosanches3454
    @gustavosanches3454 Рік тому

    At least Paradox was charitable enough to give 5k population from the get go considering that Jan Mayen has no permanent human populaiton

  • @pedro._.6296
    @pedro._.6296 Рік тому +2

    I would like to know how you can fit 500k people in a island that is smaler than some houses out there

    • @dialectish
      @dialectish Рік тому +2

      It's 330 km sq. according to Wikipedia, that's not that bad. Around half of Singapore.

  • @elvastan
    @elvastan Рік тому

    There like, isn't physically enough space for more than like 150 people to live on Jan Mayen

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 Рік тому

      Jan Mayen is an island of 373 square kilometers. I think we can fit more than 150 people in 373 square kilometers.

  • @felix_639
    @felix_639 Рік тому

    "glücksberg" is germany for luckmountain

  • @killermetalwolf2843
    @killermetalwolf2843 Рік тому +1

    That was hilarious, please continue this.

  • @markothegamer441
    @markothegamer441 Рік тому

    Playing tropico in the far north 😂 nice vid keep on bringing them

  • @TheDecWhale
    @TheDecWhale Рік тому

    Recreating the North Sea Empire as Jan Mayen let's goooo

  • @thewalkingtree7077
    @thewalkingtree7077 Рік тому

    There would be so many documentaries about this

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear Рік тому

    Jan Mayen looks like the ursa minor constellation.

  • @steadybear91
    @steadybear91 Рік тому

    conquer all the northern islands (greenland, iceland, faroes..) and form scandinavia to unite all artic land

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear Рік тому +1

    Hell yeah, brother! do it!

  • @ryanh8567
    @ryanh8567 Рік тому

    I dont play Vicky yet - so I dont have a base of knowledge in the mechanics yet. Is making furniture required for every nations economy to get started, or is it just Laith's preferred path?

  • @montiwajan
    @montiwajan Рік тому +2

    I would be up for a part 2

  • @Night-xn1ks
    @Night-xn1ks Рік тому

    Feels like laith has been sick for awhile

  • @Cohor101
    @Cohor101 Рік тому

    It is day 110 since I asked you to do the challenge with Croatia in VIC 3 but in one of the videos, a good person named Andraip (Thanks for all the help) said it has a few flaws so it's time to correct them. So when you start playing as Croatia you have 15 years to get your independence, after that you cannot ally, get in a defensive pact, and you cannot be under any kind of protection and you must rival these powers as soon as possible: Austria, Russia, Serbia, Montenegro, Ottomans, and all nations from the Italian boot. You also must embargo all those nations and cannot enter their custom union nor can they enter yours. You cannot be in an alliance with any of the top 10 nations, including a defensive pact custom union, or protectorate, but you can trade with them. AI must be put on the default settings in case it isn't. If you ally let's say Portugal, and later on they get into the top 10, you must break the alliance. You also must stay monarchy all the time. Form the Danubian state with Croatia following these rules. (FYI incase I didn't make it more specific, you cannot join anybody's custom union you must always at all times have your own market).

  • @Fralegri
    @Fralegri Рік тому

    Hi Laith! The higher th SoL the higher the wage! So that why labor saving MP are more profitable even when you don't have many pops. Little countries with high SoL have that problem, you have to make cheaper wages.

  • @sussychungus5355
    @sussychungus5355 Рік тому

    You have to continue this

  • @freshes3851
    @freshes3851 Рік тому

    Fck, I thought i was clicking on the second part of Spiffing Brit's Jan Mayen series, :c

  • @NON155
    @NON155 Рік тому +4

    ITS A ISLAND GO PLAY LIBERIA

  • @doctext-jose.e-3484
    @doctext-jose.e-3484 Рік тому +1

    Kinemod clone😭

  • @GileadGaming
    @GileadGaming Рік тому

    Day 7 of asking for a reverse colonial and Pacific Imperialist playthrough of the Philippines. Goals being to colonize, capture all of the South Pacific territory, colonize capture the Oceania territories, and capture Japan. Basically, all island nations in the south and east pacific belong to the Philippines on Victoria 3

  • @harperwilson896
    @harperwilson896 Рік тому +1

    why in debug mode

  • @manelgrinder3027
    @manelgrinder3027 Рік тому +4

    I remember this

  • @kieran4028
    @kieran4028 Рік тому +6

    Gibraltar rock next?

  • @jenshendrickx2230
    @jenshendrickx2230 Рік тому

    Bro why are you uploading so late man, it’s 3am here in belgium💀

  • @alesiswhite9010
    @alesiswhite9010 Рік тому

    This looks a lot more fun than hoi4

  • @mamiondish9482
    @mamiondish9482 Рік тому +1

    Spiffing Brit and Kinemod Copy

  • @EdinProfa
    @EdinProfa Рік тому

    I got to 27 SoL as Russia, as USA to 30.

  • @koltrainz
    @koltrainz Рік тому

    Jan Meyan world conquest when

  • @jedbrusan9304
    @jedbrusan9304 Рік тому

    Hey, Im watching you Laith for quite long time and ever since released of V3 I've been curious about this game, I watched Koifish as well and I love your content guys and all but I just dont understand what is goal of V3 and cant decide wether to buy the game or not so help with a bit of advice :D
    Cheers and all the best, amazing content as always :D

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 Рік тому +1

      There is no "goal" in V3. There is only one "lose" condition and that's getting fully annexed. It's a good game at the moment that shows a lot of promise and a lot of player-dev interaction in the discord server so I expect a lot of amazing development in its lifetime.

    • @jedbrusan9304
      @jedbrusan9304 Рік тому

      @@efulmer8675 oh, okay. So pretty much limited to imagination and fear of being annexed. Got ya, thank you!

  • @KittyFaerie1
    @KittyFaerie1 Рік тому +1

    3:55 - so, the two nicest places in the whole world that you can live in 1839 are respectively (1) the prison colony...for a prison colony...and (2) a 55km long frozen volcanic hellscape island above the Arctic Circle...? Actually, probably sounds about right for the early 19th century... XD

  • @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva
    @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva Рік тому

    Vicky 3 looks to be more geopolitically chaotic and nonsensical than any other recent Paradox game barring maybe HOI4 peace deals. It's somehow brought back the aimless blobbing and ugly chaotic nonsense of EU3.

    • @oracle372
      @oracle372 Рік тому +1

      What do you mean? All paradox games have border gore. I’m planning on making a mod to fix Vic3’s bordergore, but really it’s not unique. All of Paradox’s AIs suck the most (not at military) but at Peace Deals.

    • @oracle372
      @oracle372 Рік тому +1

      Also, Vic3 definitely does not have a problem with blobbing. Most people complain there’s not enough blobbing

  • @SekurusTheProudViking
    @SekurusTheProudViking Рік тому

    Did you know jan mayan has volcanoes?

  • @liamtan865
    @liamtan865 Рік тому +7

    day 34 of asking laith to please play more eu4 Anbennar, thank you, praise surakel, may you have a wonderful day.

  • @trivane626
    @trivane626 Рік тому +1

    I thought the title was referring to the UK

  • @doxua1063
    @doxua1063 Рік тому

    I need part 2.

  • @juanmendez3290
    @juanmendez3290 Рік тому +3

    Please form scandinavia but with all their cores

  • @alexandrosvayakis4195
    @alexandrosvayakis4195 Рік тому

    We need Greater Jan Mayenland!

  • @redsuncloud
    @redsuncloud Рік тому

    Part 2 would be neato

  • @markusfassbinder8275
    @markusfassbinder8275 Рік тому

    why does it say debug_mode?

  • @Avewyowo
    @Avewyowo Рік тому

    IT HAPPEND, I SUGGESTED THIS!

  • @Lazagna_Lover
    @Lazagna_Lover Рік тому +1

    Is this a mod?

  • @lapisdragon1237
    @lapisdragon1237 Рік тому +1

    If I may be so bold, I declare that this is Day 7 of me asking Laith to Play Fire Emblem

  • @kevinkarpovs3362
    @kevinkarpovs3362 3 місяці тому

    I remember a British man doing this

  • @Draugtaur
    @Draugtaur Рік тому

    ah yes conquering _northern norway_ for arable lands

  • @KA-pt1si
    @KA-pt1si Рік тому

    Continue this and conquer Greenland and Iceland please!

  • @thatoneplebb
    @thatoneplebb Рік тому

    jan mayen part 2 when?