The Danish Minority within the German Empire

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @SirManateee
    @SirManateee  Рік тому +20

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    • @Ektetulling
      @Ektetulling Рік тому

      i bought it 11 minutes before the sale expired thank god i came in time but my wallet is taking a heavy hit

    • @Ektetulling
      @Ektetulling Рік тому

      but i have it for 3 years now right?

    • @aguy6771
      @aguy6771 Рік тому

      Just a quick question, of all the conquered Countries germany occupied in WW2, Denmark was governed the least. Did the Nazis have any long term plans to eventually reintegrate North Schleswig/South Jutland ?

    • @The_Dutch_Viking
      @The_Dutch_Viking Рік тому

      Originally when the territory was to go back France and UK pushed for Denmark to get both Holstein and Slesvig, but Denmark rather wanted the referendum alongside some other nations i think.

  • @zelos7413
    @zelos7413 Рік тому +278

    "The danish king was under a lot of prussia."

  • @Klinker1234
    @Klinker1234 Рік тому +313

    Ty for covering the topic. My family are danes from Slesvig originally. My Great-great-grandfather was a farmer who served time in the German army, I believe to be eligible to vote, he ended up serving in some kind of royal bodyguard unit in Berlin, apparently selected because of his height and build, which sounds impressive until you realize there where thousands in that part of the army and his job was mostly standing outside of buildings doing not much for several years. We still have a photo of him in his fancy ceremonial uniform and all. He ended up getting conscripted into WW1 with his brothers during the war. His four brothers all died on the eastern front, he himself got wounded fighting on the western front. Just a flesh wound, but the doctors discovered he had a heart condition so he got sent home to Slesvig. He had to go in for regular medical check ups to see if he could possibly he fit for service again, so he use to do this trick of downing tons of coffee and running up and down the stairs of the doctors office before getting checked so his heart would be pounding like crazy to escape getting called up again. Later on he just resorted to bribing the doctor with pork from his farm as the late war food shortages set in. At one point they had some Russian PoWs that were housed at the farm and helped work it.

    • @rafanadir6958
      @rafanadir6958 Рік тому +3

      How did your family treat the Russian PoW?

    • @MyILoveMinecraft
      @MyILoveMinecraft Рік тому +34

      @@rafanadir6958 probadly like any other Heuer. My great grandfather was Lithuanian, got captured by the Germans, got send to a farm where he worked as one and decided to stay, later inheriting the farm because the couple that lived there went childless and they left it to him and his wife

    • @Klinker1234
      @Klinker1234 Рік тому +38

      ​@@rafanadir6958 Don't know that much about them tbh. They were from somewhere in the Russian Empire. So could have been any of the different people groups with that nation. They didn't speak any language my family could understand, but they were familiar with agricultural work, so from a rural background presumably. They were housed and fed for the duration of their stay. What happened to them after they left is anyone's guess.
      They weren't the only people from the Russian Empire my family had come into contact with however. Whilst my grandmother's part of the family came from rural Slesvig, my grandfather was from a working class neighborhood in Copenhagen and the local grocery shop they use to buy everyday goods from was owned by an old Cossack. He had been part of a bodyguard unit for the Russian Imperial family. He had been assigned to protect the Dowager Empress Dagmar, mother of Tsar Nikolas the 2nd, after she fled to Denmark following the fall of the Tsar, he had been part of her retinue fleeing here. After she died he was out of a job, so he opened a small grocery store, even had his old saber hanging up on the wall.

  • @jcoker423
    @jcoker423 11 місяців тому +16

    Supposedly GB PM Palmeston said
    “The Schleswig-Holstein question is so complicated, only three men in Europe have ever understood it. One was Prince Albert, who is dead. The second was a German professor who became mad. I am the third and I have forgotten all about it.”
    It also features in a great book by George McDonald Fraser. Royal Flash.

    • @johgu92
      @johgu92 5 днів тому

      PITT THE ELDER!

    • @jcoker423
      @jcoker423 5 днів тому

      @@johgu92 Palmeston surely, it's even in some Brit series (Edward Fox playing Palmeston). Pitt the Elder was back in the US wars of independence (tax dodgers!)

  • @PetroGameplay
    @PetroGameplay Рік тому +92

    A French Officer in WW1 who was responsible for handling the prisoners of war on the Western Front, had heard of the situation with the Danish minority in Northern Germany, i.e. Schleswig-Holstein, and how Danish men were ordered to fight for Germany against their will. As such, he ordered that any prisoner of war who could prove they were a part of the Danish minority in Northern Germany, would receive better treatment. A lot of Danish soldiers had befriended a lot of other German soldiers. As such, they tried their best to come up with cover stories for their German friends, so that they, too, could receive better treatment as prisoners of war.

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +14

      Interesting, thanks for sharing!

    • @aymankhan2670
      @aymankhan2670 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@SirManateeeplease make a video about Venetia Lombardy under the Austrian Habsburg Empire

  • @munk6576
    @munk6576 Рік тому +74

    Im danish and have family from schleswig-holstein around 1900s man in my family volunteered in the german army and ended up making a bunch of money. All of the money was then spent on some very fine china which is still passed down from person to person

    • @tjpassig208
      @tjpassig208 Рік тому +1

      I happen to be of Danish/German ancestry my family came from Schleswig.

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому +1

      @@tjpassig208 slesvig*

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому +1

      Slesvig

    • @Pioneer_DE
      @Pioneer_DE Рік тому

      @@Geo-nw9ug Schleswig*

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому +1

      @@Pioneer_DE no farther pomerania, austria, switzerland, luxembourg, silesia, east prussia and danzig?🥺🥺🥺

  • @G4M38R02
    @G4M38R02 Рік тому +82

    Good video. Some more things you could have mentioned are:
    How domestic politics and nationalism actually drove the decisions of Denmark in 1864 where it was hoped that our military could stop the armies of Prussia and Austria at Dannevirke, the old defensive line across now-Germany which was bypassed due to the freezing of swamps in the winter of 1864, and the hope that countries like England and Sweden would support us.
    Moreover, I think that it would've been good to mention the Easter Crisis of 1920, where our king replaced the Danish government with a conservative one, as the king wanted more land returned to Denmark than the plebicide would dictate. The attempt failed due to domestic protests over democracy and our constitution was amended to get rid of this old, unused monarchical power to replace governments.
    The mythical role of 1864 in the Danish national identity can still be felt very strongly today, as it marked Denmark's absolute decline in terms of power and foreign policy, leading to a long-held policy of neutrality and an inwards, romantic and nationalist focus and culture which is reflected in the arts.

    • @WWUt-zh3mz
      @WWUt-zh3mz Рік тому

      Didn’t the danish golden age of arts end in 1864 tho ?

    • @tripleh327
      @tripleh327 Рік тому +1

      @@WWUt-zh3mz danes hoping for swedish help? really?

    • @mineturdle6518
      @mineturdle6518 Рік тому

      Yes

    • @gustav331
      @gustav331 Рік тому

      "The attempt failed due to domestic protests over democracy and our constitution was amended to get rid of this old, unused monarchical power to replace governments."
      It wasn't. The constitution wasn't changed until 1953, and the monarch still has power to replace a government now (now the new government just has to have the approval of parliament, unlike in 1920). Indeed, every government is still legally appointed by the monarch. King Christian had the exact same powers in 1940 as he did in 1920, and he did indeed use those powers after the Easter Crisis. He demanded the resignation of the foreign minister, P. Munch, after the German invasion in 1940, as he held Munch responsible for the German occupation. He was also approached in October of 1940 by a group called Højgaardkredsen with a request to replace Stauning with a new government headed by his cousin, Prince Axel. The King, however, refused.
      The Easter Crisis was resolved with a compromise, and most people actually supported the King - as can be seen in the April 1920 election. The pro-King parties (Venstre, Konservative and several smaller parties) won 60% of the vote, while Radikale Venstre was slaughtered. In fact, the situation was much more dangerous for the protestors and the Social Democrats. The demonstrators were lucky that the King backed down, and that he didn't listen to Venstre's powerful leader, I. C. Christensen, who wanted to march battalions of soldiers into Copenhagen with fixed bayonets.

    • @gustav331
      @gustav331 Рік тому +2

      @@tripleh327 Denmark and Sweden were good friends in the middle of the 1800s, and the Swedish king had in fact promised that he would send 30.000 men to the support of Denmark. The Swedes, however, broke this promise, as the Swedish king had made the promise without consulting his parliament.

  • @LarsPallesen
    @LarsPallesen Рік тому +35

    A good and fair representation of the very complicated history of Danish/German troubles over Slesvig (Schleswig). And I say that as a Dane born in Slesvig. Well done.

  • @paradoxaddict8978
    @paradoxaddict8978 Рік тому +6

    Sir Manatee I have some respect for you, with such a small subscriber base you still manage to make top quality videos consistently, and I mean it. Keep at it and you'll be at 1 million subs in no time!!!!!!!!!

    • @Riftrender
      @Riftrender Рік тому

      Plus he is honoring the most glorious of sea mammals, the majestic manatee.

  • @aliriks8974
    @aliriks8974 Рік тому +12

    Some German nationalists even claimed the entirity of Denmark based on the period from 1332-1340, when a few German dukes (well, from Holstein so it's complicated) held tax rights in the entirity of the countries.
    Bismarck himself though thought this was a crazy claim.

  • @dinguswattle
    @dinguswattle Рік тому +25

    Great and informative video! And props for the editing to my boy Freddy.
    One thing I think would have been interesting to add, was that the ceding of North Schleswig, to Denmark, was the only part, of the Treaty of Versailles, that the Third Reich didn't reject. As the video currently stands I feel like the jump from WW1 to 1955 is a bit abrupt. Other than that amazing job!

    • @WWUt-zh3mz
      @WWUt-zh3mz Рік тому

      Are you sure that the ceding of north Schleswig was directly mentioned in the treaty of Versailles and not a consequence of the 14 points of president Wilson ?

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! And the jump at the end was more of an interesting fun fact that I wanted to share rather than an extension of the actual history

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому

      Slesvig

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому

      @@WWUt-zh3mz slesvig

  • @mangoisdelicious9078
    @mangoisdelicious9078 Рік тому +12

    this video has made me appreciate danish ppl more, much love from your previous enemy 🇸🇪🇸🇪

    • @nein236
      @nein236 Рік тому +2

      Love Sweden 🇮🇶🇸🇾

    • @danishcommander4dk
      @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому

      Tack Sverige, 🇩🇰🤝🇸🇪

  • @robbey43
    @robbey43 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for putting some more light on us.
    I really think it's an interesting topic to talk about.

  • @lucasqualls5086
    @lucasqualls5086 Рік тому +12

    Wow, it's almost like the vast majority of people do not care who rules over them so long as they are granted the same freedom and rights as everyone else. Crazy.

  • @dkexpat2755
    @dkexpat2755 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for teaching me about my country :D

  • @herravintage
    @herravintage Рік тому +3

    Fascinating video! I am very glad the UA-cam algorithm brought me to your channel, your videos are spectacular!

  • @CallofFreaky
    @CallofFreaky Рік тому +4

    I love the way you pronounce Tønder

  • @Eddn102
    @Eddn102 Рік тому +2

    Hey Sir Manatee.
    I'm studying to be a historian at the University of Copenhagen. I was wondering if you have plans to make videos about the Danish labor movement? Personally I'm doing a lot of work with Fagoppositionens Sammenslutning, the Danish syndicalists, and I think a UA-cam video about Stormen på Børsen or Slaget på Grønttorvet would be fascinating. It's an under-reported moment in Danish history.

  • @PotatoKing147
    @PotatoKing147 Рік тому +3

    Oh I knew I recognized a similar voice! Got two of your videos randomly recommended to me, and so far, I'm really impressed how well and engaging you have covered this topic. I've honestly been thinking about the Schleswig area on and off, so thank you for covering it and answer all that+so much more! You honestly deserve so many more subs, incredibly impressive work :D

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +3

      Hello there ;)
      And thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it

  • @andychap6283
    @andychap6283 Рік тому +1

    Love this channel. Can't wait till it kicks off

  • @backisgabbeYT
    @backisgabbeYT Рік тому +1

    Ah, at 3:08 when the flag blow different directions messes up my head

  • @dariusz5282
    @dariusz5282 Рік тому +2

    I loved the video. How about a video about the Sorbian minority in Germany?

  • @mechambeats
    @mechambeats 4 дні тому

    I might be a bit late but I really want to know where you're actually from. Your English sounds like some local British accent but then at times you unpack a perfect pronunciation of both German and French terms and names so I'm really confused... I know this vid is almost two years old but maybe you somehow get to see this comment. Your videos themselves are absolute gems in my opinion, I really enjoy every one of them.

  • @bobber1no499
    @bobber1no499 Рік тому +2

    i do love your videos and its a plus that you can Pronounce the German words and other Germanic words

  • @lucacoccioli9244
    @lucacoccioli9244 Рік тому +1

    Great video, but I miss the black background. I always thought ur videos looked really stylish that way!

  • @DefenderOfChrist_
    @DefenderOfChrist_ 5 місяців тому

    Good video man.

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 4 місяці тому

    bitte schön.
    I'm only too happy to be informed about these events by you.

  • @cheeseburgurcheese
    @cheeseburgurcheese Рік тому +6

    Very good video! You did a great job!
    Also, as You do a series of videos about many national liberation competitions after WW1, may I ask You to make a video about the November revolution (Листопадовий Чин) in Lviv and creating of West Ukrainian People's Republic (ЗУНР) at night from October 31 to November 1?
    Or, insted, in honor of recently passed date (January 22), the day of signing the Unification act between ЗУНР and УНР.
    I suppose those topics can be interesting for You and the channel, thank You

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +5

      Sounds fascinating, thanks for the tip :D

  • @mini_moemoe_cow1179
    @mini_moemoe_cow1179 Рік тому +7

    Will you make a video about the fact that the Danish king asked to join the North German Federation once?

  • @LookBackHistory
    @LookBackHistory Рік тому +18

    I'm glad you made the point about how language doesn't necessarily correspond with nationality.

    • @billburrcorner2727
      @billburrcorner2727 Рік тому

      In the 19th century nationalism was a lot more uncomplicated. Generally whatever language a person spoke in would be considered his nationality. As an example this is seen in many German songs of the time

    • @elyisusking3603
      @elyisusking3603 Рік тому

      @@billburrcorner2727 well, the Germans in Alsace-Lorraine were French nationalists, which is hilarious

  • @drrikudo5594
    @drrikudo5594 Рік тому

    I discober your chanel by this video, very good, I love the content

  • @marknissen5961
    @marknissen5961 Рік тому +8

    As a Dane, I approved his movie.

  • @emilianohermosilla3996
    @emilianohermosilla3996 Рік тому

    Fascinating video!

  • @konodioda6431
    @konodioda6431 Рік тому +3

    So as a Schleswiger myself, I have to say you have a very heavy nothern germab accent. If not also schleswig-hostein like.

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +5

      Almost, I'm from Niedersachsen ;)

  • @frida507
    @frida507 Рік тому +4

    Maybe it's just me who is slow... would like if you just let the maps for example stay on screen for a litte bit longer-.

  • @SakethCVES
    @SakethCVES Рік тому +1

    Jeg elsker din videoer, jeg laerer meget af dem

  • @mikabirkenstock1281
    @mikabirkenstock1281 Рік тому

    Awesome video

  • @jacobbullock6886
    @jacobbullock6886 Рік тому +5

    Hooray! New video! Ty for your great content!

  • @jebise6656
    @jebise6656 Рік тому +2

    great video as always

  • @ilFrancotti
    @ilFrancotti Рік тому +1

    Dankeschön :D

  • @phillipschouw2462
    @phillipschouw2462 4 дні тому

    Due to the heavy oppression of the danish minorities, the Danes found smart ways to show their national identity by growing blood oak trees. You find a lot of them in Southjutland / Sønderjylland. Thanks for a great video 🇩🇰

  • @jamesflynn6827
    @jamesflynn6827 Рік тому +5

    Nice Video although I would have liked a mention of the Husum Red Pied.

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +1

      At first I was confused about why you wanted me to talk about some random pig until I read the wikipedia article. I love it, it's exactly my type of humour ;D

  • @ryjitarose5590
    @ryjitarose5590 Рік тому +1

    Great video
    Btw, are there still national movements in North Schleswig that want to return to Germany / stay in Denmark?

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Рік тому +2

      No, all lingering tensions were solved by the Bonn-Copenhagen Treaty since it garuanteed the rights of both minorities and these days with the EU it's not like it really matters since you can just travel back and forth as you like. Though during the pandemic there were some issues since Denmark was pretty quick to shut down travel.
      There are still some organizations but they exist mostly for social reasons and aren't really demanding any change, the Danish one is the most active for historical reasons. Also with the lack of oppression the slow assimilation is starting to happen.

    • @danishcommander4dk
      @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому

      Trust me, south of the border we would rather return to Denmark than stay in Germany, so i don't see why any people north of the border would unite with Germany

    • @luritdurit
      @luritdurit День тому +1

      There is a small party named slesvigsk parti that supports the rights of the German minority in Denmark although they only run in local elections so they dont really matter much

  • @nicolaierikqvist-lygumtoxv3144

    My family was deported from our ancestral farm in south Slesvig when the prussians took over in about 1865. My grand father who was born in 1938 still grew up hating germans.

  • @theyabib3323
    @theyabib3323 Рік тому +3

    Im actually part of the danish minority here in Schleswig-Holstein now! :)

    • @theyabib3323
      @theyabib3323 3 місяці тому

      @guleet75 Yea there is. I'm proof of it, googles free. Don't insult my or others intellectual abilities please.

    • @theyabib3323
      @theyabib3323 3 місяці тому

      @guleet75 The point of a minority is that most people aren't, by the way, offical or legal language doesn't constitute for what's actually spoken either.

  • @Mr.GhillieSuit
    @Mr.GhillieSuit Рік тому

    another banger

  • @onnofeldmann4282
    @onnofeldmann4282 Рік тому +7

    You forgot the Frisian minority (Ostfriesland & Nordfriesland)

  • @RicardaoAzeite
    @RicardaoAzeite Рік тому +3

    Sad I didn't discovered this channel earlier, you're amazing guy and great work, ima help and sub! :D

  • @sixtennihlenkjellgren3927
    @sixtennihlenkjellgren3927 Рік тому +3

    Very odd topic but it was both entertaining and interesting, keep up the great work!

  • @GumbaFan
    @GumbaFan Рік тому +5

    A week or so ago, I literally had to write a handout on the same exact topic in history class, and now the video comes out! Perfect timing lol

  • @iGamezRo
    @iGamezRo Рік тому +1

    Since you have so many videos on the Kaiserreich, I have a question for you. What is your opinion about all the Reichsburger drama that is happening right now?
    Also, about the video, you forgor to say that during WW2, after the invasion of Denmark, Hitler did annex Northern Schleswig into Germany.

  • @Rick_Dunaway
    @Rick_Dunaway 5 місяців тому

    Ok, my mom lived in Ramstein-Miesenbach in the earlier to mid 1970’s and she says that the Germans loved the US ice cream. And they used to buy a lot of Neapolitan ice cream every year when they were allowed on the Air Force base for the “Air Show.” She mentioned that their ice cream was not sweet like the stuff from the US was and that they only had soft ice cream. So I’m trying to figure out why they the Germans did not have ice cream like my parents could get from the BX there on base. Maybe it wasn’t as big of a deal as she remembers or maybe it was. Either way, she became very good friends with her neighbors when they moved to off-base housings and apparently ice cream played a large part in the relationship.. 😂 Did I hear In the video that they didn’t have freezers in there homes back in the 70’s? Or they were not common at least? Thanks for anyone who might can help shed some light on the subject for us! 😊

  • @rasmuslundsnnichsen4984
    @rasmuslundsnnichsen4984 Рік тому +12

    Very good video, except one thing - the amount of desertions to DK during the first world war, wasn't all that high, as many danes wanted to be sure they could keep their citizenship in the german empire, which would allow them to vote for reunification with Denmark.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Рік тому +3

    Yay, my favorite manatee uploaded a new video!

  • @Wanwan-mq3jw
    @Wanwan-mq3jw 6 місяців тому

    Two interesting side notes. Danemark at that time was pretty isolated as they sticked 50 yrs earlier with Napoleon under the napoleonic wars till the end and did not join the anti napoleonic coalition. Second the danish king offered to Bismarck to Join the german union as he didnt want to lose his economic important areas. Bismarck refused as he didnt to have larger minorities in a German Empire. With regard to Austria hungary as destabilizing Factor

  • @Tfwest9337
    @Tfwest9337 Рік тому +2

    Great new video!

  • @kristianstrm2375
    @kristianstrm2375 Рік тому +4

    Such an underrated channel. I don't know why the algorithm recommended you when it did, but I am happy for it.

  • @zhouwu
    @zhouwu Рік тому

    Is there any connection between the Northern German regionalism of saying, "Moin, Moin" to Denmark?

    • @sarah8383
      @sarah8383 Рік тому +1

      No, that's originally from Frisian.

    • @Hansen710
      @Hansen710 Рік тому

      it is mojn in danish, if you are not a part of the danish minority that speaks alot of german..
      many danes dident like spaeking german, so it bacame mojn..
      finland also uses it (moi)
      it probetly comes from the german words "Guten Morgen", but no one knows
      another theory is from the dutch words "mojn dag"

  • @luritdurit
    @luritdurit День тому

    As someone who goes to an efterskole in the former german area its very funny because they have a silly accent compared to the rest of Denmark

  • @francisdec1615
    @francisdec1615 Рік тому +9

    The border between Denmark and Germany and the border between East Prussia and Polen were the only borders that were (somewhat) drawn in accordance with the wish of the populations as a result of the Versailles Treaty. The Belgium-German border, the French-German border, the Czech-German border, the rest of the Polish-German border and the Lithuanian-German border were all forced upon Germany. At least most people in Eupen-Malmedy, Upper Silesia, West Prussia and Memelland wanted to remain within the German Reich, even if they weren't ethnic Germans. The hypocritical western powers paved the road for the Nazis with the Versailles "peace" Treaty.

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +1

      Yeah the treaty of Versailles was a disaster, and that was one of the many reasons why

    • @tripleh327
      @tripleh327 Рік тому

      the treaty also give a huge boost in popularity and good kindle to the rise of fascism here in italy
      the mith of the mutilated victory and the false promise of the anglo french allies was perfect material to rally nationalistic xenophobic sentiments
      it ends with the birth of fascism

    • @respectmathias
      @respectmathias Рік тому +2

      This is just a memory from history class but I'm pretty sure the Entante offered Denmark more lands from Germany but Denmark refused due to concerns regarding the large German minority it would create and how it could create future conflicts with Germany. Though I don't remember the exact reasons Denmark refused I do know the reason the Entente offered it was to punish Germany more using the returning land as a cover.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Рік тому +1

      @@respectmathias At the time Denmark had a social democratic government that wanted to continue the neutrality policy and avert future conflict with Germany, as well as maintain good trade relations. There were people in Denmark who wanted to take back all of Slesvig but the majority weren't interested in that failed policy.
      Though also at the time it was somewhat unheard of to split a region in half like this. Part of the reason there was a conflict in the first place was because no one had considered just splitting Slesvig, so it either had to be all of it or nothing. The Danish government was treading new ground by demanding a referendrum to decide where the border would go.

  • @theacme3
    @theacme3 Рік тому +1

    Ouch! You are doing a video on the history of Schleswig Hollstein and leave out all the important pre-history why SH was rules by the danish king and what contractual obligations the Danish king had with SH and the the holy roman empire and it following states. A quick look on Wiki would already be enough to understanding the importance for telling the story. Sad

  • @ejnarsorensen2920
    @ejnarsorensen2920 Рік тому +7

    One interesting thing is that in Southern Jutland there was also a Friesian minority (which still exists with their own dialect(s) to this day). As far as I gathered from my family from the region most of these were pro-Danish at the time.

    • @onurbschrednei4569
      @onurbschrednei4569 Рік тому +1

      mmh, I doubt that, since almost all Frisians voted to remain in Germany in the 1920 plebiscites. I think back then, Frisian was seen as a German dialect?

    • @ejnarsorensen2920
      @ejnarsorensen2920 Рік тому

      @@onurbschrednei4569 I was told that it was only in a few hamlets where Frisians were in a majority, with Germans in the bigger towns there. But of course this comes anecdotal albeit from a Frisian family-member who is now long dead. There is probably a bit of bias from the perspective of having had to move north.

    • @onurbschrednei4569
      @onurbschrednei4569 Рік тому

      @@ejnarsorensen2920 That's possible, although the islands were definitely still majority Frisian and they voted "remain" in 1920, probably because at the end of the day they didn't speak danish as a mothertongue. I could imagine them being pro-danish in the 1860s.
      Its cool that you have family connections to this! Did your family member move to Denmark right after the plebiscite?

  • @rosaburgs6019
    @rosaburgs6019 Рік тому +2

    Good video, but was there nothing to mention about the the low Germans and north frisians? They did and still do make up a minority in that area, more so then than now.

    • @ComradeAart
      @ComradeAart Рік тому +2

      Same with Dutch speakers in Kleef and Gulik.

    • @sarah8383
      @sarah8383 Рік тому +3

      Well they were originally a majority in the northern half of Germany and also suffered under German nationalism.

    • @respectmathias
      @respectmathias Рік тому +2

      Sadly the story of Low German being assimilated into High German is offen forgotten in the idea of a Deutschland. People forget that the original idea of Deutschland also included the Netherlands, Belgium and so on.

  • @suevialania
    @suevialania Рік тому +1

    And Faroé Islands? Greenland next Canadian's state of Nunavut in North América? Schleswig in Holstein - Germany!

  • @kaanpleb
    @kaanpleb Рік тому +1

    Petition for a Video about the austrian civilwar and austrofascism in the interwar years

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +1

      I will make not one, but three videos on that topic after I'm done with all the exams I have right now haha

  • @somedude8468
    @somedude8468 Рік тому +1

    Werid how different danish and german are really, because german language was vastly different from babaria to hannover, shoudnt south danish be more similar to the language in lubeck? Making integration not a problem? Is werid, i always thought of europe as the person from village A can speak with person from village B that can speak to person from village C, but if a person from village A met someone from village C they wont understand each other.
    Great video as always!

    • @respectmathias
      @respectmathias Рік тому +4

      Actually the languages used to be very simular. If you compare the Low German languages with the southern Jutland language they were very similar before nationalism. The reason neither of them can understand each other today is because Low German was killed by High German through a long process since the Reformation (because the protestant Bible was written in high German) and also through national enforcement. The southern Jutland language was killed by the Danish romanticism and also national enforcement.
      Even if we take a person today who speaks Sønderjysk and Plattdeutsch they won't be able to speak with each other due to years of assimilation with their national languages.
      Keep in mind this is a surface level explanation, we are talking about over a hundred years of assimilation.

    • @somedude8468
      @somedude8468 Рік тому

      @@respectmathias makes sense, before they could understand each other but now they speak more like someone from copenhaegen against someone from berlin, very different languages today.
      is a shame really, assimilation, centralization and nationalisim made it so the language becomes more unified but less localized, thanks for the explanation.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Рік тому +2

      Most danes do speak German and both danes and germans tend to speak English so it's not a problem in practice. Danish and German do share a lot of words so that makes learning it somewhat easier for Danes.

    • @vanefreja86
      @vanefreja86 Рік тому +2

      ​@@hedgehog3180 Although that grammar 😅😅😅

  • @mads.toftgaard
    @mads.toftgaard Рік тому

    Around that time, german was seen as the finer language. Richer people and judges and officers only spoke german, while the working farmers spoke danish. This was used to oppress the danish lower class.

  • @oooshafiqooo
    @oooshafiqooo Рік тому

    from living normally, to poorly, then to being excellent

  • @TheAlpha38
    @TheAlpha38 Рік тому +4

    Great Video! I wholehartedly agree with all points you made! It is shameful how the idiots in charge in Berlin totally screwed up agreed upon terms in the Prague treaty! For that I can only apologise to my Danish brothers and sisters! However a point that you glossed over to quickly in my opinion is the votes after the second world war. A sizeable portion of the northern voting zone voted to unify with germany all along the southern border but because that zone had to vote on block the borders were drawn to disadvantage Germany and hurt future relations between Denmark and Germany. Admiting all the mistakes Germany made here, we should also be proud enough to admit that there were some mistakes made by Denmark regarding this vote. Great Video as always!

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому

      You're right, the vote was heavily skewed in favour of Denmark. Sonderburg and Tondern for example voted overwhelmingly to stay with Germany but it is what it is :)

    • @Norup928
      @Norup928 Рік тому +5

      Well the Germans had killed and thrown out some 65.000 Danes and migrated to the land

    • @sfbismarck9537
      @sfbismarck9537 Рік тому +3

      @@Norup928 Source?

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Рік тому +1

      @@sfbismarck9537 it was literally mentioned in the video, did you pay attention?

  • @detfalck
    @detfalck Рік тому

    Yay it's here 😍

  • @batbite_
    @batbite_ Рік тому +2

    Danish national romanticism is very much a response to this conflict

  • @3chmidt
    @3chmidt 6 місяців тому

    Can you make a video about Germans in Prussian land after it was occupied by Poland after ww1?

    • @9polio
      @9polio 4 місяці тому

      @@3chmidt You mean in Polish land taken back by the poles?

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 Рік тому +3

    "Had Germany not angered the Danish minority, they probably would have assimilated over time."
    They didn't have time by 1894. Their empire ended just 24 years later. You can't assimilate a region into a nation in 24 years unless you commit outright genocide.

    • @SirManateee
      @SirManateee  Рік тому +12

      They didn't expect the empire to collapse in such a short time though, did they?

  • @marym7104
    @marym7104 Рік тому

    Within 6 days!

  • @StrumpanzerFuhrer
    @StrumpanzerFuhrer Рік тому

    Bro I fucking love your videos, German history is so interesting but it gets overshadowed a lot by angry moustache man!!

    • @danishcommander4dk
      @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому

      It's actually more danish than german history tbh

    • @StrumpanzerFuhrer
      @StrumpanzerFuhrer 8 місяців тому

      @@danishcommander4dk Denmark is not a real country

    • @danishcommander4dk
      @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@StrumpanzerFuhrer says the American 🤣😂😂
      One day, the danish minority in Sydslesvig will become the majority again and then we will reunite with our Danish brothers and ancestors, and it doesn't matter what you think of my homeland ❤️🇩🇰

  • @danishcommander4dk
    @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому +3

    I'm anpart of the danish minority in Germany and hopefully we can reunite with Denmark one time. We don't wave the danish flag without a reason every day

    • @anderson._.._.8801
      @anderson._.._.8801 4 дні тому

      Schleswig today is practically entirely German it joining Denmark wouldn't make much sense.
      Also EU exists.

    • @derherrgraf6001
      @derherrgraf6001 День тому

      Then why you don't move to denmark? Schleswig-Holstein is entirely German.

  • @SgtRocko
    @SgtRocko Рік тому +1

    THANK YOU. So many things just mention this subject in passing, but never go into detail. Appreciate it! Though... and NOT to pick nits - the Kaiserreich ALSO had huge Yiddish, Sorbian, Kaschubian (NOT Polish, thank you LOL), and Lithuanian speaking minorities. Take no offense, just showing the colours (my relatives are in 3 of those linguistic groups LOL)

  • @RudolfStern3399
    @RudolfStern3399 Рік тому

    Do one on German Ashkenazim

  • @kimmogensen4888
    @kimmogensen4888 Рік тому +1

    The military defeat for Denmark in 1864 was obviously bad for the life’s lost, but ended the bad idea of ruling over Majority none Danish speaking land. And instead using the resources for strengthening within, and a cultural golden age follow.

  • @micshaz
    @micshaz Рік тому

    If you dont put ur ads in the beginning or end of your video, dont recommend channel is my go to libido

  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow Рік тому +2

    Wild, I'd never heard any of this before. It is truly a big world.

    • @israelilocal
      @israelilocal Рік тому

      Kinda funny seeing you here I remember watching you when you were a relativly small channel and covering early medieval period

  • @dermajor4472
    @dermajor4472 Рік тому

    dat se bliven ewich tosamende ungedelt you have to start I 1460

    • @danishcommander4dk
      @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому

      Ja unter *dänischer* Krone!

    • @dermajor4472
      @dermajor4472 8 місяців тому

      @@danishcommander4dk Genau da ist ja das Problem das Schleswig direkt und unter Lehenschaft dänische war und Holstein zwar unter direkter Herrschaft in Personal Union mit Dänemark gebunden aber unter dem deutschen Universal Reich des Mittelalters blieb. Mit Abschaffung des Feudalen und der Erstellung absoluter und dan moderner staatlichen Konstrukte fällt das Land hier wie zum Beispiel Posen aus dem Historischen in den Kulturellen Anspruch zurück.

  • @purromemes7395
    @purromemes7395 Рік тому +1

    Denmark is a cool country

    • @Hansen710
      @Hansen710 Рік тому +2

      yes it is very cold this morning in DK 😮‍💨

    • @purromemes7395
      @purromemes7395 Рік тому +2

      @@Hansen710 I wish I was Born there. 90% of My Family is from there but instead I’m stuck as an American 💀

  • @dreamcaster143
    @dreamcaster143 Рік тому +1

    Tag.
    Auch wenn es vielleicht umstritten ist, haben Sie sich meiner Meinung nach zu sehr auf die dänische Seite geschlagen. Wichtig ist z.B. zu erwähnen, daß die damaligen Mächte der Entent Deutschkand alles oberhalb hannovers/Hamburgs wegnehmen wollten und damit dieses Referendum zwar rückblickend generös von den Dänen war, aber nur von einem Ungerechten und nicht legitimen Knebelvertrag war.

    • @ninnoah8814
      @ninnoah8814 Рік тому

      Tag. Ich stimme ihnen zu, dass der Vertrag (um es nett zu sagen) kompletter müll und als demütigung gedacht war, welcher mehr probleme verursacht als gelöst hat. Allerdings finde ich nicht, dass er sich im video zu sehr auf die seite der dänen gestellt hat. Außerdem hat Dänemark damals selber gesagt, dass die menge an land die sie erhalten sollten zu viel wäre. Und es ist halt nunmal leider so, dass Deutschland damals sehr offensiv gegen minderheiten vorgegangen ist, was wir dann später bei der vertreibung der Ost- und Sudeten deutschen selber spüren durften. Wünsche ihnen noch einen schönen Tag und frohes neues

    • @danishcommander4dk
      @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому

      Was spielt denn ein Vertrag vor 100 Jahren noch eine Rolle? Die "Grenze" von 1920 ist inzwischen wieder kompletter nichtssagend geworden. Mittlerweile wollen auch immer mehr Deutsche in Sydslesvig lieber wieder zu Dänemark gehören als zu Deutschland

    • @3chmidt
      @3chmidt 6 місяців тому

      @@danishcommander4dk Das liegt eher an der miserablen Regierung als daß Deutsche Dänemark besser finden, und wer keine Verträge vor 100 Jahren anerkennen kann, der kann auch keine Verträge vor 10 Jahren anerkennen.

  • @tavishnundoo6002
    @tavishnundoo6002 Рік тому

    Hallo

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 Рік тому

    One kinda tragic outcome of this is that more Danes died in WWI fighting for the German Empire than did in the war of 1864 fighting for their own country. It's made even weirder by Denmark being neutral in WWI.

  • @ahmedas424
    @ahmedas424 Рік тому +2

    Good video, finally someone actually cared about Danish history

  • @dinobarb3452
    @dinobarb3452 4 дні тому

    This was not a blindside lol

  • @AnkfordPlays
    @AnkfordPlays Рік тому +3

    First:
    Frit Sønderjylland til Ejderen!
    Second: I think we were even more reluctant to give up the duchies because of Scania. We had lost Norway, Scania, Halland and Blekinge definitively to the Swedish so Denmark was cornered like a rat, slowly losing lands to their neighbors.

    • @JanBruunAndersen
      @JanBruunAndersen Рік тому +1

      Skåne, Halland, og Blekinge tilbage til Danmark 🇩🇰

  • @hectorperez6160
    @hectorperez6160 Рік тому +5

    When LEGO could be German: hey! build your own Wehrmacht army

  • @SebOutdoors
    @SebOutdoors Рік тому +2

    DANMARK TIL EJDEREN!

    • @respectmathias
      @respectmathias Рік тому +5

      Historisk talt giver det mere mening at sige Danmark til Dannevirke, da det er et område der har været en del af Danmark siden Vikingetiden til de Slesvigske krige. Det land som er over Dannevirke er kommet ind i Kongeriget via arv dvs. personlig union og er dermed ikke legitimt dansk land.
      Hvis vi skulle følge logikken at land der er blevet arvet af kongehuset er en del af nationen så ville Hanover være Engelsk.

    • @danishcommander4dk
      @danishcommander4dk 8 місяців тому

      ​@@respectmathias hold nu op, jeg er selv sydslesviger og jeg siger Danmark til Ejderen!! 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

    • @DefenderOfChrist_
      @DefenderOfChrist_ 5 місяців тому

      @@danishcommander4dkbor du syd for Dannevirke eller nord for? Jeg er også enig Danmark til Dannevirke.

  • @stephanottawa7890
    @stephanottawa7890 11 місяців тому

    This is not bad, but there are a few annoying things. Firstly, you keep taking away an image or a map as soon as you put it up. It is very difficult to enjoy or even understand the significance of the image or map if you take it away so soon. Secondly, why are you always showing this ugly image of a sea cow? It is a bit like a Chinese communist propaganda film constantly showing Mao mao man even though he had nothing to do with the story. I know that you are trying to be amusing as well as informative, but it is working against you. Lastly, and most importantly, you have completely left out the Frisians. This is a typical Danish ploy in that they cannot stand the Frisians and despise them. Therefore the Frisians sided with the Germans and tipped the balance in favour of union with Germany. I know this for a fact, as I lived in Wyk and although there were some pleasant Danes here and there, they still looked down on the Frisians.

  • @OliverCovfefe
    @OliverCovfefe Рік тому +4

    Feed me goulash and whisper history into my ear

  • @Freigeist2008
    @Freigeist2008 Рік тому +2

    In comparison to other european powers Germany was very tolerant to minorities. Especillay in comparison to the treatment of minorities in France (Germans in Elsass-Lothringen, Corse), in the UK (Irish, Welsh and Scotish which culture and language has been annihilated) or Russia. Said as an guy with Polish ancestors

  • @dave2.077
    @dave2.077 Рік тому

    its very apparent that this narrator is a german speaker. you can tell by him pronouncing every german place name perfectly

  • @ReiKakariki
    @ReiKakariki Рік тому

    Complicated the content of your video, controversial and contains detalistics wrongs.

  • @aoeuable
    @aoeuable Рік тому +1

    And through all these ebbs and tides, turns and twists, one thing was and is constant: Holstein cooks the best red grit and the Danes still can't pronounce "Rode Grütt mit Flott" properly.

  • @philippedersen2411
    @philippedersen2411 Рік тому +6

    South Slesvig should be Danish once again. Denmark to the Eider River!

    • @d.9511
      @d.9511 Рік тому +7

      As a person living in south Schleswig. We are fine in Germany thank you.

    • @Nangong123
      @Nangong123 Рік тому

      @@d.9511 As a Dane, I agree with you. Denmark for the Danes, we don't need ethnic minorities

    • @Hansen710
      @Hansen710 Рік тому +1

      if the bordershops are not there, no danes would visit anyway..
      decides we dont wont more german people in denmark.
      they have another policy then the rest of europe when it comes to war, work and polution
      and the culture, lets just keep that on the other side of the border..
      Germans have a bad habbit of thinking bad ideas are great, every time we have a war in europe they are pretty much on the other side of the rest of europe.
      and their greed often hurts the rest of europe when its war time

    • @respectmathias
      @respectmathias Рік тому +2

      I'd prefer a sovereign Schleswig/Slesvig nation

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Рік тому +1

      @@d.9511 “Denmark to the Eider” is an old slogan the national liberals used and is now only used as a joke to mock them and that period im general in Denmark.

  • @LøvæFråNordn
    @LøvæFråNordn Рік тому

    Denmark should have accepted Slesvig after the allies tried giving it to the Danes, after ww1 and again after ww2

    • @DefenderOfChrist_
      @DefenderOfChrist_ 5 місяців тому

      We accepted the border of 1920 as those areas was majority german and we didn’t want a large population of germans within the kingdom we wouldn’t have gone for an ethnic cleansing either.

  • @shaqz7823
    @shaqz7823 Рік тому +3

    Danke dass du Schleswig, Holstein etc Deutsch aussprichst statt auf krampf Englisch zu klingen

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому +1

      Slesvig*

    • @shaqz7823
      @shaqz7823 Рік тому +2

      @@Geo-nw9ug its Schleswig

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому +1

      @@shaqz7823 you live closer to slovakia than slesvig, who are you to speak alman?

    • @shaqz7823
      @shaqz7823 Рік тому

      @@Geo-nw9ug im german

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Рік тому +1

      @@shaqz7823 if u live in leipzig then u live approximately as far away from the city of Flensborg as u do slovakia lol leave us alone alman hund