"European Style" Tarantula Enclosures from Stamps (and Two Rehousings!)
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- These are not up on Stamps' website yet, but you can order them by emailing him from the site. stampstarantula... He will eventually be adding them to his site.
Stamps Tarantula recently announced that they would be carrying the "European Style" tarantula enclosures that folks overseas use for their spiders. I had been admiring these enclosures since I saw them in The Spiderman's videos, and was bummed when I discovered they weren't available in the states. Now, thanks to Stamps, I would finally get to try these out.
Although I resisted the urge to buy any at first (I really didn't need any new enclosures at the time) Theswimmingfox was nice enough to send me some photos of the ones she purchased. Of course, I ordered some later that week.
Over all, I really like them. I was surprised that the "large" size was as shallow as it was, but I'm trying it out with my Phormictopus cautus violets, and I'll see how it goes. The stackability and hinged doors are both huge pluses, and the crystal clear covers are fantastic. I will say that for folks already using Sterilite, these might not offer enough "bang for the buck". Plus, the sizes are a bit limited.
Still, they look darned pretty on a shelf... I'll definitely be grabbing some more.
Hey Tom 😊 Thank u for mentioning my name 👍
My pleasure! I've been admiring these enclosures in your videos for a long time. :)
Hi Alan, my favourite Brummie spider keeper!
The reason the plastic is so thin is that when they make plastic thicker it gets more translucent (That's why Sterilite is translucent and not transparent)
Apparently, these are take-out food containers in the UK. haha
Finally!!!!!!! A clear container with a clear lid. I am really liking the small ones, look forward to seeing how they work for you. Thanks again.
I am LOVING how clear these are. I'd gotten used to the milky sterilite containers, so this was a huge step up in visibility. The smalls are awesome. The larges are a bit shallow, but @Thespiderman said they make them deeper in Europe. I'm going to have to look for those. :)
Looking forward to any updates.
I really enjoy watching your videos. You're both knowledgeable and articulate. The methodology with which you re-house your spiders is honed down to a science. I had a few tarantulas in my teen years and am thinking of getting back into the hobby. Very pleased to have found your channel.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the comments on the rehousings; I really try to keep things as calm and contained as possible. I figure if I can keep the T from getting spooked, there's less risk of injury to it and myself. You've picked a great time to get back into the hobby...the number of species available now is staggering. Which species are you eyeing?
When I was younger my first T was a Honduran Curly hair, followed by a Chilean Rose. This time around I'm probably going to choose one of the Avicularia species, as they are generally on the docile side and tend to web a bit more.
Wow, tow awesome starter species. You might want to look at Avicularia versicolor. The color changes are AMAZING, and mine is a very prolific webber.
These are some of my favourite enclosures for slings! They are takeaway boxes!! They work a charm though with the cheeky little opening lid for food and water! It’s nice that the uk for once has something better than the states! Lolz
Personally, I love these. You definitely have it better with these! hahahahaha!
I’ve collected 32 of the 3L versions there like 60 cents each in the UK I keep a mixture of tarantula’s and scorpion’s I would love the brand to make the same size box but twice the height I would definitely keep bigger specimens in them then
I agree completely about the height!
No problem! The smalls are quite sturdy and convenient for slings, but those larges are just too floppy and shallow.
Hey quick question, Im getting into some rare roaches and I'm worried about escapes. My question is, does the lid snap on tightly, basically air tight?
I've looked at ziplock weathertight bins and sterility gasket bins but those are just too large and rather expensive.
The smaller ones lock fairly tight, but the larger ones...not so much. I already spoke to another keeper who said one popped open and allowed a spider to escape.
Is there a possibility of selling me a single small one just so I can try it out??
I would love to, but all of mine are full at the moment! I used up the last three a couple weeks ago. Sorry!
No problem, let me know when u have one evil lol I just don't want to buy a bunch at once and them not work for me.
Will do! And I hear you; I took a chance when I bought these, and luckily, they worked out for me.
2:56 Hello mr. spoon hahaha sorry :'D
Very handy enclosures indeed not shallow
Hey Tom! I'm not sure I would trust tops that don't have a physical apparatus to latch a lid down. How is your luck with these long term?
The small ones work great and latch firmly. I've had no issues there. The larger ones? Not so much. haha. The lids pop up much too easily, so they are now collecting dust in my garage. haha
Hey, Tom. Thanks for sharing other options for enclosures. Personally, I use the exo terra breeding box, which was featured on your channel for my LP sling. Take care, Ben
I've picked up a bunch of those breeding boxes. I love them. I think I'm up to 30 or so now. haha
Thanks so much, Ben! :)
Petko at the dark den makes his own glass or acrylic, any custom size, cheap to make, his signature design he thought of was for access of easy cleaning, because all the others were getting on his nerves, access into spider or contents from top, front etc plus viewing covers for seeing into burrows. Have a look.
They look great. .so tired of messing around with bins /tubs I love how u can open one end up ..do u know if he ships to Canada?
Yeah, those hinged door are quite convenient! I'm not sure; my guess is that he does, at least for enclosures.
+Tom Moran ok thanks ..I will have to check it out ..thanks for sharing ☺.
Tom, are the Phormictopus green temperaments anything like the cancerides?
Mine tend to be a little more laid back than the cancerides...a little more shy even. My green femurs are like pet rocks. I never have any trouble from them.
Wow Tom, just found this video and the first T you rehoused I’d say is the same size as my T. And I now I know that my enclosure is far to big and that must be what’s stressing it out. I have smaller enclosures on the way so hopefully soon it’ll have the appropriate size enclosure and will settle down a lot better. Cheers Ross.
Hi, Ross! What size did you have yours in? It's not wrong to put slings in smaller enclosures, but I've found that some take a while to settle in.
Hi Tom Moran
I don’t know the exact measurements but it looks around 12”x10”x6” ( “ = inches I hope ) so massively too big.
The new enclosures measurements are 16.5 cm x 11cm x 6.5 cm and is essentially a storage container with a 35mm whole with an air vent glued in to which I will drill a line of between 5-10 1.5 mm air holes to add to ventilation. Would that better suit a juvenile T? Cheers again Ross.
Hi there. Great video. I'm in Canada and on the lookout for new enclosures.... getting tired of the opaque ones. These look decent enough. My thoughts:
Pro
Visibility
Trap door lid
Stackable
Con
Conern with snap lid breaking
Not deep enough
I would be interested in seeing a follow-up video on your use of these. Thanks for the showing thou!😁👏
Hi again, Ann! :) That's a great list of pros and cons. I can tell you that the snap on the lid does not seem to give out. I'm still using several of these, and they are working fine. That was a concern for me as well! And I'll have to do an update soon. Thanks again!
Hey good buddy! Why the gloves on this video but the ones before you had no gloves? Bad hair kickers on the last rehouse within this video?
Hey, bud! That's a great question! I tend to forget to wear them a lot of the time. I should have them on with every New World rehousing, as you actually become less tolerant of hairs over time. If I remember correctly in this case, the last time I rehoused a Phormictopus species, it kicked a lot a of hair, so I put them on for that last one.
Tom Moran.. Would you recommend the gloves for any transfer or just depends on the species from OW to NW?
You won't really need them for Old World species, as they don't have the urticating hairs. I would definitely recommend them with New Worlds. Not only can they kick during rehousings, but their enclosures can also be full of hairs. It's just a precaution, as you can become more sensitive to them over time.
Tom Moran.. Gotcha! Appreciate it the info sir
Is there any way you can semi "burrow" the water cup for better access?
I used to bury them more, but the crickets get caught in them, and I was having an issue with the substrate leaching out all of the water.
Yes i remenber thise "european style" enclosure. Loved them for terrestrial juveniles and scorpions. Had a bunch of them. I also had them un size of ten inch hight which was perfect for asian fossorials or arboreals
Ugh, I love the 10 inch ones, but I only had a couple of them! They sell these here on eBay now, but they are always over priced.
@@TomsBigSpiders i dont know nowdays? This was 15 years ago. I bought them at expos and such. They where everywhere back then. I remember i liked them!
I like the idea of using the soda bottle to direct them to the hide. Gonna try that.
I use that for a lot of my juveniles and it has always worked great for me. :)
I'm fairly new to the hobby, but something IV picked up from other hobbies. when rehoming, slowly flooding the tunnel seems to be the easiest, safest, and less stressful way of doing it. not sure if you were aware or knew of it lol. opinion on it if you don't mind?
Hello, Cody! Yup, I've heard of it and I've used that technique before (check out this video if you have a moment: ua-cam.com/video/eDwHChIgBUc/v-deo.html ). I really pick my spots using it, though. The first time I attempted the flood technique, the spider didn't come out, and the tunnel collapsed into a muddy mess. It was a disaster. The issue I have with it is that some Ts will have "sub chambers" to their burrows. When you flood it, they can hide in one of these chambers and become trapped. I think that it works well in certain situations, but personally I'm much more comfortable carefully digging them out and cupping them. I've done with with some of the most defensive species, like T. gigas, Chilobrachys sp., and C. lividum without any issues at all. I guess it just depends what your comfort level is! :)
will do 😁
Hey Tom, great vid!
I started using these a while back and like you said in the vid, too shallow, but that's where the cons end. Here's the pros as I see it..they are alot clearer than sterilite. I have dozens of sterelite, because I can stack them so good, but not very clear. you can stack em really good, the hinged top is awesome, really nice not to take the whole top off. also I only use the deep ones, others are too shallow. the deep is good for Terrestrial and arboreal. they are def more user friendly than the sterelite, and with the hinge, and the nice clear plastic they are a win.
I agree completely. Like you said the hinged door and the transparency of these is fantastic. I wish they were a little deeper, but they pros outweigh the cons, in my opinion. I have two of the deep ones that I haven't set up yet. I'll definitely be getting more of these. :)
I've got 1 of the taller ones which I used for my T.Vagans and then a thinner 1 with that hinged lid which I'm not a fan of as the lid is so easy to open as proven by some red runners managing to escape from the one I have. Might just be the one I have but the lid just doesn't seem to secure correctly. With my taller 1 there's what I can only describe as a clicking noise when you push down on the lid and it feels more secure. Awesome video though :)
Another awesome video! 👍😊
Thank you, Gaylen!
loving the amount of uploads!
Ha! Thanks! I wasn't sure if it was too much. I'm off for the summer, so I have plenty of time on my hands now. :)
Nah its not too much, all of your content is great.
I really appreciate it! I didn't want people to be like, "Dear God, ANOTHER video?" lol
I do feel that way with some people, but not with you man.
Thanks, bud...I appreciate it.
I could use about 20 of those right now. Great buy. Wish I could get them up in Canada for a decent price.
I'm going to see if I can order them direct. I'm think that if I get a bunch at once, even with the shipping, it will still be cheaper than what I paid for these.
I’m from Germany... I stay away from these lol
I lock the Lock Tites that has 4 latches, I use for C.Versi
A Exo Terra Breeding box ( the one with two feeding ports and top can open too )
Two smaller Exo Terra faunariums
Deli cups
Rocher chocolate containers...
I love the Exo Terra Breeding boxes. I have about 30 of them at the moment. :)
Tom Moran yea they’re freakin awesome 😀
I need to get more as well.
I like them sooo much more than the faunarium/critter box type. For the main reason it’s not as snappy sounding and doesn’t startle my T’s...
what kind of containers those are? looks useful for other types of critters, whats it called?
Those are 1.3 liter and 3 liter clear BraPlast clear plastic containers that are popular in the UK. I got them from Stamps Tarantulas in the US.
Tom Moran im searching for european style enclosure not have result
Tom Moran how to order at Stamps Tarantula
6:03 is that enclosure is good for my 1-3 inches chaco golden knee? pls reply ASAP
If it's less than 3", the smaller one would be great for it. I have two of my chacos in the smaller ones right now. I like them for Ts 2.5" and under.
Tom Moran thanks bro!
Do they have them in the site now? How much was each one?
I'm not sure if they're up at the moment. I think they were about $2 each?
Tom Moran really? How much did shipping set you back? I'd love to get some
How/Where can i order the small one, im from PH. thanks. cool vid.
Hello, Justine! I'm not sure where you would get them over there. Do you subscribe to ua-cam.com/channels/XHF2I3R1FF1ug2BvAvnh1w.html ? He's awesome, and he and his subscribers may be able to help!
Hey Tom the $6.50 enclosures. U can get them deeper in Europe mate 😊
That's awesome info, thank you. I'm definitely going to look into getting some of the deeper ones. Thanks, bud!
stamps website is down. what happened?
Apparently, he closed up shop. I tried to find out what happened, but got nowhere.
that sucks
to be honest I don't like the 1L and 3L braplast tubs at all. They are not deep enough for substrate, and the lids crack really easily when trying to add holes. ended up throwing both of mine away, which was kind of a waste of £2. xD the square tub is great though, I use it for some of my juvies and dwarf species but I will always prefer exo terra faunariums even though they are a little pricier :P
The depth thing is definitely a drawback. I don't know why I thought they'd be deeper, but with the large especially, I can't add as much sub as I would like. I usually give all of my slings and juveniles room to burrow if they like, and these only permit a couple inches at most. I have two of the square tubs ready to go; I just have to figure out what to put in them. lol. I use something very similar to the faunariums for some of my juveniles. They're nice little enclosures for the money. :)
Can you make a video on how to make the half bottle rehousing thing please
I sure can! I'll do one this weekend! :)
Tom Moran Thanks!
How do u make the holes in the enclosures? thanks☺️
Sorry mate for my bad english, I'm german:(
Your English is fine! :) I use a soldering iron for the holes. Here's a link: www.amazon.de/einstellbare-Temperatur-verschiedene-zus%C3%A4tzliche-verschieden/dp/B0188THY3U/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1466679721&sr=8-4&keywords=soldering+iron
Hope that helps!
There is some deeper ones they have twice the depth of the large ones but they look like icecream tubs the small ones are best I use them myself
Using those as well myself. But sounds to me like you paid a lot for them. They go around 1-2 euro a piece here in The Netherlands.
You know, I was wondering what those went for back in Europe. Yup, sounds like the mark up is quite extreme. I'm sure Stamps had to pay quite a bit for shipping to get them in, which accounts for some of it. If these were cheaper, they'd be even better. I might have to see if a UK keeper would be willing to pick some up and ship them to me; it would likely be much cheaper. Thanks!!! - Tom
Yea i geuss import costs have to make up a bit for it. Also i'm sure there is someone that would love to send some over. Have a good one :)
And, I'm sure the seller wanted to make some $, too. :) You have a good one as well!
Please release a blooper reel with your wife's profanity riddled selfie. :p Definitely like the look of the smaller enclosures.
Bahahahahahahahaha!!!! She deleted it before I could get the phone back! The smaller ones are fantastic.
a good way to make them move is to lightly blow on them. I do it to mine when I can't get it out of a corner or something. makes her start walking forward.
Until you blow around the urticating hairs and have a bad day....
will these worg good for scorpions
I'm actually picking up a few more for my scorps. They work great with the smaller ones!
I am thinking about getting a t what should I get?
Hi there! Were there any particular ones you were interested in? I did a blog post about the species I think make the best beginners. tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/2014/11/09/the-best-tarantula-species-for-beginners/
Chaco golden knee best species for begginers
My Cyriocosmus perezmilesi escaped from a box like that. I don't know how in the world that happend....
Could it have slipped through a vent hole? Maybe a corner wasn't snapped down correctly? How odd!
Tom did you see the female Haplopelma sp bach-ma stamps has right now? 800.00 dollars!!
I sure did. Man, I need to hit the lottery. lol
+Tom Moran Yup lol
If that were to die in my care, I would need some serious therapy... lol
Also these new ones are less opaque. You can see the T's better.
I'm REALLY loving that part. I can look right in the top and see everything perfectly. No guessing where the tarantula is. :)
Tom Moran
Most plastic containers you can buy in the stores like WM and Costco are very opaque. Good plastic is more expensive, but it's not like your going thru them and tossing them. They last for years as a critter keeper. That guy was really jonesin' to go exploring. Lol
i don't see them on the website for sale :(
Oh, no...did he stop selling them?
i don't see them :( i was going to buy a few :)...new to the hobby .
Maybe try dropping him an email? He might have them and just hasn't put them up.
Welcome to the hobby! Do you have any Ts yet?
I will do that :)...no we don't have any Ts right now ..we had 3 males that past away this fall from old age.
We use those and empty haribo containers for our slings.the haribo are deeper for the bebes that want a deeper hide
I just Googled those. Looks like they have quite a few containers that would make for good enclosures. :)
+Tom Moran yup,and we love eating the content :) and the plastic is food safe,and usually survives my attacks with a drill for air holes.
I don't eat a lot of sweets, but I informed Billie that she might have to increase her sugar intake by about 500%. :)
Hahahaha. Nothing like drilling air holes!
Get them on amazon.
Thanks! When I first put this up, they weren't as widely available on Amazon!
it looks like that site doesnt exist anymore
Yeah, he went out of business quite some time ago. You can find these enclosures on ebay now.
@@TomsBigSpiders ok thanks
Kids and pets - they'll make a liar out of you every time!
Hahaha. So true, Bobbi!
Not liking those containers. Thanks for the review.
He put the brakes on hard ,kiss my -------- .had to push him all the way
I buy these on ebay for 1.99 with free shipping but half the time they come crushed :(
UGH! I was looking for these on Ebay, too. That's not going to work. :(
I noticed you will have better luck having them shipped one at a time and since it's free shipping don't have to worry about that because the way they ship them when there is many is bad.
Maybe I'll try that, then. I love these things, and I'd like to have more on hand. :)
I just keep ordering them every so often for spiders I don't even have yet since the shipping takes a month abouts to have on hand which has worked out perfect because everytime I finally get someone needs lol
What are these called so that I can look them up
Have two of them not sure If I prefer the ones from here..www.reallyusefulproducts.co.uk/uk/html/onlineshop/fullrange_rub.php.
I actually found some good enclosures from the supermarket recently. Might do a little vid with some ideas, well things have collected.
Oooooo...those are some nice ones as well! They remind me of the Sterilite ones we get over here.
Personally, I think I have a fetish or something for trying out every type of container I can find. Lol
Am using two for my slings and have 3 that are good for Juveniles..e.g My ap Hentzi is in one.
Gonna buy one of these and probably some of these..
www.reallyusefulproducts.co.uk/uk/html/onlineshop/rub/b21_0litreXL.php
www.plasticboxshop.co.uk/home-storage-c1/kitchen-organisation-c19/lock-lock-food-containers-c111/4lt-tall-square-plastic-cookie-jar-with-airtight-rubber-seal-lid-p1694
For my avics. But still on the hunt for that.
I can also send you any kind of them if you like. Just send me a PN 😉
Hi, Max! Are you in Europe? :)
Yes
Those are Tupperware. Living in these tinny boxes is no kind of life for these animals. They are living things, not trading cards for you to collect.
Hayden Foxx Tarantulas prefer small enclosures. Large enclosures tend to stress them out.
yes they prefer small places, but not this small. a 10 gallon tank with places to hide and burrow. it's horrible to see all these people using these small boxes. i work in a petstore and we use these containers for people to take them home. they are supposed to be looked at and admired. it's no point of having them like this...
^ Proof that many pet store workers don't know what they're talking about.
Your right how dare this man supply this animal with a food supply, warmth, and pick up it’s mess how cruel
Sindre egenes, Pet stores don’t know what they’re talking about, a spider of that size does not need a tank that size and actually would prefer a tub the size he is using in the video and tarantulas aren’t really a pet you buy just to admire, you do admire them but not like you would a lizard or fish. Also plastic tubs tend to keep humidity in better.
i know they prefer small places, but not this small. a 10 gallon tank with places to hide and burrow. it's horrible to see all these people using these small boxes. i work in a petstore and we use these containers for people to take them home in. they are supposed to be looked at and admired. it's no point of having them like this... these containers are for shipping the animals. not places for them to live..
You would put a sling in a 10-gallon tank? Interesting...
Dude theyre tarantulas not hamsters they dont neet extra big size of enclosure do some research
"I work in a pet store" ....and I've had some of the worst advice from pet store workers who have no clue what they are talking about.
That's the 2nd time this pet store worker has said the same thing in these comments, just goes to prove what most people in the hobby already know.... many pet store workers have no idea what they're talking about.