The car is a joint project between Honda China and SAIC I heard. Honda China just use the New Vezel car body rip out its hybrid drive train and change it to an EV drive train.
@@meow7983SAIC never worked with Honda, this is nonsense. It is developed in China (with Japanese input) as well as manufactured (developed in Guangdong Specifically at Honda Automobile China, as GAC has taken over Honda Automobile China, so it controls both GAC-Honda as well as Honda Automobile China. However ENY1 is made by Dongfeng Honda in Wuhan) and it’s a several year old design brought over to fill gaps between the new EV platform in 2025, but the rest are just… Anyways, I thought at EV age we’ve long gone past ‘because it’s made in (China or insert any country) hence it’s good/bad’, but it seems this sort of irrational belief persists, even Bjorn seems to be buying into these now (he certainly doesn’t shy away from that)
As always, very informative and exciting reports in a relaxed, friendly manner. I am also amused by the way of telling stories, supplemented with German and sometimes Vietnamese words. I like your work, thank you!
Bery informative and OBJECTIVE, which is the most important, telling truths. Because most of the "journalists" and content creators are wh0res that are betraying their audience to the car manufacturer, telling what the manufacturer wants and not saying bad things.
I just realized this is the same as their HRV ice car... but it is manufactured in china by dongfeng who also makes renault electric stuff among others... so does it have a transmission tunnel? also the china variants are call e:NP1 and e:NS1 which makes no sense
I don‘t see how that would improve anything. Toyota/Lexus and Subaru had a joined effort with the bz4x/rz450e/soltera. That was a fail and the Honda is even worse.
If you want to go down in Sweden, you can cross over to Trollhättan from Uddevalla, and go down to Göteborg on the E45. I think it is about 15 minutes longer. You leave E6 at Torp Köpcenter Or if you want to go a more scenic route, you can also leave the E6 at Torp Köpcenter, and go over the islands Orust and Tjörn. And then join the E6 at Stenungsund.
What I really don't get with some of these super late legacy EVs: Did they completely skip benchmarking in the development? When this car started development there were already a good few EVs around that could charge wayyy faster on a similar battedy size and without overheating... You would expect that they at least learn from the mistakes that others have made, if they are so late.
I think you have to understand the main markets of these cars. Typically in Asia you don't drive extreme distances on a single day like in Europe or U.S. and therefore it does not matter that the car charges slow. I think as the time goes by there will be different versions of the cars in Asia, Europe and US, with most likely small and slow charging battery packs in Asia and large, fast charging battery packs in US and Europe. Similar example is air conditioning in cars, which became more or less standard just 10-15 years ago in Northern Europe but in e.g. Southeast Asia (and US) it's common in cars even from the 80s to have aircon.
I think the right tire on the car is Pirelli winter ice zero fr. Its energy class is C, which is bad. Energy class A summer tires have been used in many other cars. So the difference is around 7% in consumption. Wrong rims that are not original to E:Ny1. Looks like 15 years old Accord rims. Energy-efficient rims are also used in electric cars, so that also adds distortion to the consumption readings. Keep these things in mind.
The idea with a hatch at the front is nice. But it won't work well in the winter when the loading hatch will be full of snow and ice. The car goes away immediately for that reason.
Hi Bjorn. Can you leave your test result list to download in the description . It is really interesting stuff to review before buying an electric car. Great video once again Cheers
Yeah, they make great lawn mower engines. I used to have one, it was excellent. Now I have a battery powered Husqvarna mower, and it is so much better yet.
This charging behaviour is quite similar to that of the Ioniq FL. When I was looking for a new car 2 yrs ago I was thinking about the Ioniq FL (after I had the original 28kWh one), but due to the very poor charging behaviour this was a no-go (unfortunately). Except the charging behaviour the Ioniq FL would have been an almost perfect car, especially with the larger hatch compared to the M3 but still light-weight and highly efficient on the highways.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttt. Great video. I've had one of these for a few months and only use it in the city, for that it's perfect. Home charging, even on AC, is more than adequate for my needs. If I was doing big motorway miles I'd get a diesel! 😂
I really like youre videos man! No Honda ev for me. Would like to see some details like wich wheels are driven and how big is the turning circle. Really like the turning circle on my id3!
I wish that here, in Portugal, we could say that ionity chargers are the cheapest ones. 0,73€ + the stupid fee for the electricity provider, make this chargers almost impossible to use… only if you don’t have a choice.
but also because Portugal has stupid laws, that forces external players to include their systems in Mobi.E. The should stop acting like childs and include themselves, so that Tesla (which has two locations ready to use since almost 3 years UNUSABLE), Fastned, ENBW etc can finally be open to the public! Those stupid laws only delay the transition to e-mobility!
As far as I read this is built off the GM Ultium platform. LG Cells being built for those packs, some in US in my state. I'm sure if this is being built in China then the cells probably built by another LG factory.
This test is a bit strange because no one drives this kind of distance in real life. Much more important is consumption, which is actually quite good for a high SUV whose appearance has not been ruined in a wind tunnel, like the Koreans. And still driven with crappy Pirelli winter tires. I don't know if you can get any worse. Charging capabilities alone do not make an electric car good, as Tesla's winter tests prove. It's good to remember! The car has many other features as well.
I wonder about the technical reason for chargers not delivering the power they are supposed to? I mean, either it works, or it doesn't. How come it can go in a semi working state, delivering much lower power
The BMS (Battery management system) will limit the amount of power going into the battery pack to prevent damage if the pack gets too warm or is too cold. There is also a charging curve. Some cars will charge to 80% really fast, others only to 40% and then charge slower and so on. Its all about the chemicals in the battery pack, how they are designed, cooled, heated, arranged and how aggresively the BMS is protecting the battery pack. It's not the charger limiting power, its the car limiting how much power it draws. Unless we get solid state cells you won't see max charging speed for long if at all.
Yes, I know this, but according to Bjørn and his videos, sometime he changes charger to get better charging speed, so sometimes the charger is limiting the power@@thecrow3461
Why does so many norweigans drive in the left lane? Must be some better explanation than arrogance, people here in sweden ocassionaly hug left too but on the vaccation the % was higher once in norway :S
This Honda is probably best suited to loyal fans; it doesn’t really offer much new to buyers! An OK effort, but the software and range look off the pace.
GM can't seem to get Ultium into mass production, they've been dribbling out Ultium cars. They've just delayed the Silverado by a year. If they can't make Ultium EVs for themselves how are they going to make them for Honda.
@@MichaelPanzer Obviously that wasn't the plan. GM thought they had a winner with Ultium, it was supposed to be a flexible scalable platform. Why they are having so much difficulty has never been explained but clearly they have a serious problem. The Hummer has been out for a couple of years but they've never built more than a handful a month. The Lyriq has only sold 2400 since its release, that's better than the Hummer but it's still pretty pathetic.
Oh man, this navigation is weird, it look like you are driving on a small planet ! That is getting smaller and smaller as battery level goes down. I guess it is important to charge before the planet get so tiny it collapses into a black hole ?
Not A+? Lol, it is Z-, in Germany it starts from 47.5k Euro and for what? To charge for 30 minutes every 120 km? And this shitty software? For 2023 this is embarrassing.
This is one of those video's that's totally re-enforced my belief that EV's are utterly ludicrous. At motorway speeds, you could do that trip in a diesel on a full 55l tank in ONE stretch without stopping, cheaper and with way less hassle. The car is horrible though - so frustrating. It's like Honda just can't be bothered, and fob off everything to BYD. I'm also now waiting for the pending obesity epidemic with EV owners who have nothing else to do while their car is charging than eat through sheer boredom!
An embarrassment for Honda engineering, to release a car like this in 2023.
The car is a joint project between Honda China and SAIC I heard. Honda China just use the New Vezel car body rip out its hybrid drive train and change it to an EV drive train.
Exactly
who is buying that car?
@@meow7983SAIC never worked with Honda, this is nonsense. It is developed in China (with Japanese input) as well as manufactured (developed in Guangdong Specifically at Honda Automobile China, as GAC has taken over Honda Automobile China, so it controls both GAC-Honda as well as Honda Automobile China. However ENY1 is made by Dongfeng Honda in Wuhan) and it’s a several year old design brought over to fill gaps between the new EV platform in 2025, but the rest are just…
Anyways, I thought at EV age we’ve long gone past ‘because it’s made in (China or insert any country) hence it’s good/bad’, but it seems this sort of irrational belief persists, even Bjorn seems to be buying into these now (he certainly doesn’t shy away from that)
It’s a dongfeng car, Honda just stuck their badge on it
Can't wait for BYD Seal tests. Was happy user of Hondas for more than 20 years, but electric cars, not the way i like.
As always, very informative and exciting reports in a relaxed, friendly manner. I am also amused by the way of telling stories, supplemented with German and sometimes Vietnamese words.
I like your work, thank you!
Bery informative and OBJECTIVE, which is the most important, telling truths.
Because most of the "journalists" and content creators are wh0res that are betraying their audience to the car manufacturer, telling what the manufacturer wants and not saying bad things.
Sometimes with German words not Vietnamese.
@@zimben8 May be, next week I‘ve a little time, to show you where some terms are
Wohoo finnish candy mentioned! Torille!!
Thank you for the REAL LIFE tests! This is way more informative than all those CLTCs and others
thumbs up for Tyrkisk Peber
Yes!! Thumps up 👍👍
I just realized this is the same as their HRV ice car... but it is manufactured in china by dongfeng who also makes renault electric stuff among others... so does it have a transmission tunnel? also the china variants are call e:NP1 and e:NS1 which makes no sense
Can’t wait for the ev9 test
Toyota and Honda should join their companies. Maybe than they have a BEV which is on the standard of 2020.
I don‘t see how that would improve anything. Toyota/Lexus and Subaru had a joined effort with the bz4x/rz450e/soltera. That was a fail and the Honda is even worse.
@@bellumCretatus i made it like honda and toyota...I made a joke :)
@@LittleSpot a joke it is, true
Toyota talks and talks and won't make anything useful. Honda is at least trying something. I want Toyota to suffer so bad...
If you want to go down in Sweden, you can cross over to Trollhättan from Uddevalla, and go down to Göteborg on the E45. I think it is about 15 minutes longer. You leave E6 at Torp Köpcenter Or if you want to go a more scenic route, you can also leave the E6 at Torp Köpcenter, and go over the islands Orust and Tjörn. And then join the E6 at Stenungsund.
What I really don't get with some of these super late legacy EVs:
Did they completely skip benchmarking in the development? When this car started development there were already a good few EVs around that could charge wayyy faster on a similar battedy size and without overheating...
You would expect that they at least learn from the mistakes that others have made, if they are so late.
I think you have to understand the main markets of these cars. Typically in Asia you don't drive extreme distances on a single day like in Europe or U.S. and therefore it does not matter that the car charges slow. I think as the time goes by there will be different versions of the cars in Asia, Europe and US, with most likely small and slow charging battery packs in Asia and large, fast charging battery packs in US and Europe.
Similar example is air conditioning in cars, which became more or less standard just 10-15 years ago in Northern Europe but in e.g. Southeast Asia (and US) it's common in cars even from the 80s to have aircon.
Now Honda has a campaign in Sweden, private leasing is only 2995 SEK everything included, so I am watching what Björn said about this car.
Where?
@@zaraa.ali123 in Sweden but looks like all cars are leased in 3 days
Pretty brave for Honda to put their badge on a Chinese EV shell
I think the right tire on the car is Pirelli winter ice zero fr. Its energy class is C, which is bad. Energy class A summer tires have been used in many other cars. So the difference is around 7% in consumption. Wrong rims that are not original to E:Ny1. Looks like 15 years old Accord rims. Energy-efficient rims are also used in electric cars, so that also adds distortion to the consumption readings. Keep these things in mind.
You will need a Honda this winter. Snow blower.
Personally, I think Honda wanted to write ëNY1 (ë as in Noël) making it sound as "anyone". So I call it Anyone.
That's what you get for letting the new guy come up with the name without setting up deadkeys on his computer.
Always buy car from another maker. Honda and Toyota's BEVs are a few years behind the rest.
The idea with a hatch at the front is nice. But it won't work well in the winter when the loading hatch will be full of snow and ice. The car goes away immediately for that reason.
Given the price of 280K NOK this car suddenly become relevant again
yes, current pricing makes this car actually an option.
Hi Bjorn. Can you leave your test result list to download in the description . It is really interesting stuff to review before buying an electric car.
Great video once again
Cheers
Ahh it is there… 😅😅 lol
with the price of base model y and it's tiny size this car is NOT worth buying
Chinese car with Honda badge, Honda is for decades the biggest combustion engine manufacturer in the world - well, well, well
Some ponies only have one trick up their sleeves....
Yeah, they make great lawn mower engines. I used to have one, it was excellent. Now I have a battery powered Husqvarna mower, and it is so much better yet.
Impressive to see my car (ioniq EV) being almost half an hour faster than this car!
I'm still waiting for something to be more efficient than the 8 year old Korean original too!
At this point the only japanese EV that is worth is the Nissan Ariya.
This charging behaviour is quite similar to that of the Ioniq FL. When I was looking for a new car 2 yrs ago I was thinking about the Ioniq FL (after I had the original 28kWh one), but due to the very poor charging behaviour this was a no-go (unfortunately). Except the charging behaviour the Ioniq FL would have been an almost perfect car, especially with the larger hatch compared to the M3 but still light-weight and highly efficient on the highways.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttt. Great video. I've had one of these for a few months and only use it in the city, for that it's perfect. Home charging, even on AC, is more than adequate for my needs. If I was doing big motorway miles I'd get a diesel! 😂
Only easypark worked with recharge in sweden. It is easy to use, but the charger did not have that information avalible on the charger.
Like the esspa slow rise dough, this car charges overnight and let's the driver ferment. .
I've owned a Honda all my life and 5 years ago switched to Tesla. I will never get a Honda again. This car affirms my conviction.
the screen look a lot like the one in fisker ocean extreme, you tested
Seems like the Niro EV is better choice there?
I had that problem hitting my leg on the corner of the door when I got my IONIQ. Thankfully I eventually got used to it
Same here with a 2018 leaf... but damn it hurts
Always Bring (Finnish) Candy
I really like youre videos man! No Honda ev for me. Would like to see some details like wich wheels are driven and how big is the turning circle. Really like the turning circle on my id3!
I wish that here, in Portugal, we could say that ionity chargers are the cheapest ones. 0,73€ + the stupid fee for the electricity provider, make this chargers almost impossible to use… only if you don’t have a choice.
but also because Portugal has stupid laws, that forces external players to include their systems in Mobi.E. The should stop acting like childs and include themselves, so that Tesla (which has two locations ready to use since almost 3 years UNUSABLE), Fastned, ENBW etc can finally be open to the public! Those stupid laws only delay the transition to e-mobility!
Are there Ionity chargers in Potugal? I don‘t see any in the App.
Try getting a german Shell recharge card. Used it this summer in portugal and i only paid 8 cents per minute on Ionity.
@@bellumCretatus They don’t show in the app, but you can see it on the web browser.
@@yannik4661 How can I get that card?
Hey Bjorn, the flashing naked 110 circle (passport uncovered) it means you did not reach max speed right? LOL
can't believe how cheap your electricity is, even the high power tesla chargers in Ireland are twice a expensive as Norway...
who is buying such a car? i mean, it is at all important topics the worst one against the competitors.
I see 2 downvotes at this moment,.
I think is "the sun" and "honda" for these 2 votes
Tritium is made in Australia 🇦🇺
It's made in a lot of places.
Nice kodak moment for Honda 🫠
As far as I read this is built off the GM Ultium platform. LG Cells being built for those packs, some in US in my state. I'm sure if this is being built in China then the cells probably built by another LG factory.
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This test is a bit strange because no one drives this kind of distance in real life. Much more important is consumption, which is actually quite good for a high SUV whose appearance has not been ruined in a wind tunnel, like the Koreans. And still driven with crappy Pirelli winter tires. I don't know if you can get any worse. Charging capabilities alone do not make an electric car good, as Tesla's winter tests prove. It's good to remember! The car has many other features as well.
Nice 911 at 6:40 😊
I Hope Honda Learns and makes just as good EVs as they do combustion cars. Turkish Pepper salty licorice 👍
Did you get the tesla model s you ran to 0 trunk fixed
Another catchy name….not. Agree with others, an embarrassment of a car in 2023/4
I wonder about the technical reason for chargers not delivering the power they are supposed to? I mean, either it works, or it doesn't. How come it can go in a semi working state, delivering much lower power
The BMS (Battery management system) will limit the amount of power going into the battery pack to prevent damage if the pack gets too warm or is too cold. There is also a charging curve. Some cars will charge to 80% really fast, others only to 40% and then charge slower and so on. Its all about the chemicals in the battery pack, how they are designed, cooled, heated, arranged and how aggresively the BMS is protecting the battery pack. It's not the charger limiting power, its the car limiting how much power it draws. Unless we get solid state cells you won't see max charging speed for long if at all.
Yes, I know this, but according to Bjørn and his videos, sometime he changes charger to get better charging speed, so sometimes the charger is limiting the power@@thecrow3461
Why does so many norweigans drive in the left lane?
Must be some better explanation than arrogance, people here in sweden ocassionaly hug left too but on the vaccation the % was higher once in norway :S
Ego
I guess road condition? Might be that the right lane is in a much worse state due to trucks. Just a guess though.
Now i got it! Left Lane hughers do it for fresher and quieter ass falt.
👍Always Be Chewing (Tyrkisk Peber 🥵)
very interesting and useful videos, it is very pity for Honda. if it is possible to review dongfeng(honda) MNW I’m very interested
OMG, there is sooo much going on, on that center screen, this is not good…
That infotainment screen looks like vinilla android 4 and that's not a compliment
21:19 Selvfølgelig har I en butik i Norge som hedder "Bolleland" ... 🤨🤣
21:19 Yes 🇩🇰 Bolleland😂🤫
This Honda is probably best suited to loyal fans; it doesn’t really offer much new to buyers! An OK effort, but the software and range look off the pace.
😂 Koste meg meg en tyrkisk pepper da du dro fram posen! hehe. Keep pushing mr! :)
Such a funny guy 😄
It looks like a car just existing for "occupying" the market, awaiting time to work on something a bit more serious...
I wonder why they're not bringing the GM based Honda Prologue? The Japanese getting spanked by the Koreans!
GM can't seem to get Ultium into mass production, they've been dribbling out Ultium cars. They've just delayed the Silverado by a year. If they can't make Ultium EVs for themselves how are they going to make them for Honda.
@@joshuarosen465 I wonder why even provide the platform is they can't deliver?
@@MichaelPanzer Obviously that wasn't the plan. GM thought they had a winner with Ultium, it was supposed to be a flexible scalable platform. Why they are having so much difficulty has never been explained but clearly they have a serious problem. The Hummer has been out for a couple of years but they've never built more than a handful a month. The Lyriq has only sold 2400 since its release, that's better than the Hummer but it's still pretty pathetic.
Test a Nissan Sakura.
Am I the only one chuckling invariably at 9999 ??😂
Silly, yet classic TB humor. Gets me every time. @26:19
My car charges 4 times as fast, lmao.
Just call it anyone
👍Love tyskisk pepper
came for the car, left the video wanting a boller
japanese tech for the loose!
Oh man, this navigation is weird, it look like you are driving on a small planet ! That is getting smaller and smaller as battery level goes down. I guess it is important to charge before the planet get so tiny it collapses into a black hole ?
WTH is the matter with naming EVs nowadays?
A small e, semicolon, capital n, small y and a one... FFS!
Not A+? Lol, it is Z-, in Germany it starts from 47.5k Euro and for what? To charge for 30 minutes every 120 km? And this shitty software? For 2023 this is embarrassing.
you forgot the ":" in the carname
Fixed now. It was a glitch. I had updated it but it was not published.
I rewatched the video. The : wasn't any improvement for the Honda 🤣. Still in turtle mode from 100 to 0 Percent. An even slower in charging.
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This is one of those video's that's totally re-enforced my belief that EV's are utterly ludicrous. At motorway speeds, you could do that trip in a diesel on a full 55l tank in ONE stretch without stopping, cheaper and with way less hassle.
The car is horrible though - so frustrating. It's like Honda just can't be bothered, and fob off everything to BYD. I'm also now waiting for the pending obesity epidemic with EV owners who have nothing else to do while their car is charging than eat through sheer boredom!
Man, even my Peugeot e208 has a better charging curve than this car.
Very few of these manufacturers know what they are doing in this regard. Smh at all of them from Honda to Hyundai to so many others.
Bolleland 😂
This electric cars are not good for travel u stop so Mich and take so long to charge
what is worse than driving a 10 year old Tesla dead and get stuck with it? driving such a crap honda for 1000km. 😱
I'll take the Tesla.
I don't watch 1000 km challenges with chinese cars
But with Winter Tires ?
Korrekt. We're on October. Brace yourselves. Winter is coming.
In Germany we say „Winterreifen von O bis O“!
Translated it means:
„Winter tires from October to Easter (Ostern)“