Tengri literally means Sky. Khukh Tengri is Blue Sky. We Mongols traditionally don't believe there is a sky "god" but we worship the sky and the universe as whole
In Turkic; Gök(khukh) means sky, blue, eternal. Tangrı> Tang(horizon), -yeri(place).. So when we say Gök tengri, it means Eternal Horizon Place.. So it means universe. I am really be honorful of this great idea. Our ancestors didnt give God a human character, they see god as universe itself and everything is part of it.
Hi my friend i am Hindu and indian I want to know that what is the religious of Mongolian people islaam muslim so mongol people is muslim ,ya Christan ,Buddhist my friend say me mongol people is muslim is this true
Do you know the exact version of this song made up of the lyrics in the Orkhun Inscriptions? I could not find it anywhere. ua-cam.com/video/d1TIK5a11E8/v-deo.html
Fun fact, I am Kazakh/Mongolian and the first Kazakh word I learned is Shanyrak, which is the crossing of wood you see in the Tengriist symbols, at the top of the yurta, and in many flags like the Kyrgyz flag 🇰🇬
A Mongol warrior who commits a terrible deed and loses his soul to the underworld, then has to seek a shaman to explain him how to get his soul back, then embark to a journey to the underworld to redeem himself and recover his soul... I'd totally watch a series about that!
You can probably count 4th episode of The Book of Boba Fett that way. Din Djarin, the Mandalorian, committed bad deed, then he went to the underside of the world he came to, met blacksmith woman - the shaman - and got instructions on how to redeem himself. It's quite funny how similar the story is.
Great informative video. But PLEASE for the love of tengri, stop using chinese music in videos about Turks and Mongols. I've seen this so many times and it hurts me inside. Turks and Mongols were both the biggest enemies of Chinese back in time. As such, Turkish or Mongolic cultures have almost nothing in common with chinese, including music, beliefs, dressing and food.
yeah ESPECIALLY with the recent popularization of various mongol bands like hun-hurr tu... it should be PRETTY FRIGGIN EASY to find some mongolian trax for this.
@NihilisticEntropy It is not Islam. Almost turks got Islam from Arabic nations. But before that tengriism was true faith of this ethnic groups. And tengriism include shamanism, nature's spiritism, agnosticism.
They destroyed and stole a lot of things, including many thing in Mongolia. In the early 20 century Mongolia were highly Buddhist religious country. They were worshiping it blindly and it was really killing them. Because of it at that time the total population of the country was half a million and over 60% of the males were monk who were not allowed to have wives and children, and they had somewhere 10.000 monasteries. Because of the religion, only place that is close to being an school where you get an education and academy where historical and scientific files and records stored was those monasteries which all of them were destroyed and sacked by the communists. They purged over 38.000 people most of them were nobles and monk (only educated people of the country) and somewhere over 108 caravans of stolen loots from these monasteries have went to China and over 200 caravans went to soviet union.
Communism isn't cancer, people are cancer. Go ask the Native Americans and the Aborigines and the people of the First Nations their opinion about "Capitalism".
Fascinating to see how similar the traditions of the Mongols/Turks are to what we assume to be the Proto-Indoeuropean tradition, from the figures of the Gods to the teachings about the soul! It seems as if the nomadic lifestyle in the steppes very much directs the focus of a people towards the radiant Sky and its symbolism of Light, Eternity, Masculinity and Virtue.
Also Finn’s-Hungarians-Japanese also similar cultures and most of the middle Asian ethnics believed same religion:) and Mongolians took Turks as a fighter in their army many years they been living same are and they use to other’s cultures,language is not same only but it’s Ural-Altai family so they are similar.. Even there were Turkish army in Mongolians they been in war many times with other Turkish countries 🤦🏼♂️
Hopefully all Turks revert back to their roots. Tengriism is a part of your national identity. As is paganism to most Europeans. Abrahamic religions poorly represent our nations history and how we came to be. Tengriism and paganism on the other hand evolved along with our civilizations.
Königreich - right! These abrahamic religions only created wars, blurred our cultures and killed unique beauty of nations. We should return to our pagan beliefs! Abrahamic religions just want slaves, not free people living in a harmony with the world. I’m a Kazakh, a nomadic nation in the past, our traditions and culture is strongly connected with Tengrism, Altaic culture. Our daily lives are connected with Tengrism. I hope islam will one day disappear in my country totally because our traditions even contradict with islam. Ppl who call themselves muslims think they are muslims because they believe in God and pray in funerals. That’s all where the religion goes. They don’t practice it, Tengrism is so natural. I hope ppl understand finally that they’re actually Tengri ppl by their beliefs.
ToBe Honest Paganism is currently the fastest growing religion in the world. I’m not sure if Tengriism is growing as fast as paganism is. I know the Hungarians have a yearly Kural Taj to celebrate Altaic heritage, inviting a ton of other steppe peoples to celebrate with them. But that’s as far as my knowledge goes.
yaşa sorry I should have clarified. Fastest growth as a percentage annually. In regards to quantity Islam is obviously the fastest due to very high fertility.
In many ways you can see allot of this in Native American culture and religion. Might be something to look into in the future and show how similar they are.
Mongol Arabs and all panga Realigion is based on Hinduism God's..... Lord Shiva lingam can be find all over this place ....Mongol followed ancient Shamanic Shiva Realigion along with Buddism Just like the people of Himalayas
@ no. There are people in Scandinavia, and Germany that have unbroken pagansim. Not neopagan larpers, but REAL pagans that had it passed on. I also know an Irish pagan who has taught me and passed on many things to me.
I was researching German history via your videos and stumbled upon this....i have studied runic inscriptions and Teutonic beliefs....and so many puzzle pieces fell into place via the context of this video..bravo....I am in love with this topic now....
A video, please, on all aboriginal peoples still practiced today as well as in the recent past 2K years for Australian, Saami, Polynesian, Native American including north, south, and central, African, Pre-Christian/Muslim/Judaism religions around the world including Europe. I know a lot to ask, but hell, it is interesting stuff here.
Basically I think we'd like to see videos on every religion that was popular prior to the Abrahamic religions or the other major world religions. I know I'd like that certainly.
Love this topic, if you can can you do a video on Native American religion like the Sioux, Cherokee, or Iroquois ? Or any not famous religion like I wonder what the Australian Aboriginals have as there beliefs.
Aboriginal religion revolves predominantly around "dreamtime" and their ancestors from what I understand. Seems to be a very "primeval" type of spirituality, probably very old, though the elders who practice it worry about its future because apparently the aboriginal youth seems much more preoccupied with hip-hop and other anti-culture because they consider themselves "black" now, even though they're likely not even really related to modern Africans. Interesting but a bit sad.
Aboriginals have a variety of religions. Though it's not commonly thought of as such, they have individual nations akin to those you list of the Native Americans and they have a range of belief systems. Though it is true that dreamtime stories are usually how legends are taught, I have learned that the dreamtime is more a way of thinking about time than the religion itself. I would suggest narrowing in particular nations and their creation stories, rather than searching for something wholly universal.
Roger Theil well probably never get the answer but but I’ve been curious the religionists beliefs of the sentinels in the india ocean since they haven’t had basically any contact for 10,000 years from what we know. The only thing that’s 100% certain no matter how isolated or where , all humans and society have a belief system.
Caerulea Tigris I maybe confused it might be a in Africa or South America people but the they reffed to the past In front of them and the future behind them?
I was born into a Muslim Turkish family, and now in my fifties, I can finally say that everything has changed for the better! Ever since I can remember, I had so many questions about Islam, but I felt so guilty for even thinking them. That guilt, the helplessness, and the constant pressure to just follow the rules led me down a path of anxiety and depression. I felt like I wasn’t worthy of being loved. But then, I found peace in nature and rescuing dogs-they gave me a sense of belonging that I so desperately needed. For years, I researched other religions, searching for something that truly resonated with me. After five incredibly tough years of questioning everything-my faith, my existence-I finally discovered what aligns perfectly with who I am: Tengrism! I can’t even begin to explain how much sense it all makes. The harmony, the balance, the goodness, and the positivity-it’s exactly what I’ve been searching for my entire life! Islam never gave me the peace I craved, but now, as a Turk, I’ve found it in Tengrism, and I’m beyond thrilled about this journey! I’m so excited for what lies ahead, and I finally feel like I’m exactly where I’m meant to be!
Very nice video Hilbert! I love long and in-depth videos. I'd like to see one day a video about Finnish shamanism and folklore, I bet it would be very interesting.
Why you guys always trying to ignore Turks in the history. Even the old language are coming from the same root between Mongols and Turkic nations. In the Cengiz Han’s army nearly half of the soldiers are Turk and half of them are Mongols... So Turks doesn’t try to be like Mongols, they live together and thats why they influeced themselves.
I learnt an awful lot from this video and wow: what a belief system! Balance, harmony, environmental respect along with shamans and animal guides...why are we not encouraging this across the world? :)
Because it’s totally against materialism. Living harmoniously on earth getting only what you need, looking after it’s balance ,not abusing earth and animals for profit … whole world benefit it but not those greedy ones who control the world.
Because the religion teaches not to force religion. meaning it has very little chance to be spread outside of those who become intrested and eventually convet because they start to believe in it. and also the major religions like to be spread and fight wars to spread it destroy culture and intergrate what they can't. The novgrodian prince knew the mongolians calm religious sentement and after beating catholic crusades he surrendered before the Mongols ever sacked them. As the Catholics would destroy orthodoxy the Tengrists would really not care.
Would like to see a video about Tengrism and its relation with various Turkic peoples, which you touched up very briefly here when you mentioned Turkey and Krygzstan. Great, informative video, as always. Cheers n' beers!
In Turkey, it is believed that there are about 30000 + Tengriists, but unlike other muslim communities, we have a lot of rituals passing from the Tengriist belief, and i consider myself a Tengriist (you cannot become a Tengriist by law though ) And we consider ourselves Turkic, not Mongolian
im Kazakh and there are also many people considering themselves tengri, we have lots of traditions proving that. Also even though we are turkic, we also have mongol blood, Chengiz han conquer-red central asia and his sons became rulers of modern kazakhstan
@@SunnyGoga Anatolian turks also not pure blood in a way but they consider themselves as a nation of turks. being a turkic nation is also not change the culture by having some different dnas.
Perhaps the gods that once represented the sky became ocean or sea gods because these are people who came from the steps of central asia. Which would mean that they never saw the ocean. So when thay saw it, and it looked like a reflection of the sky thay named it after it. Just my thoughts 😊
Christian Changer In a vague notion of a god and in existence of spirits and ghosts. Basically we believe god and such exists but they aren’t really detailed. Like it’s the most bland god you can think of. Heck most people don’t even know when or where the buddha was born much less what sect they belong in but they still identify as buddhist. However most of the Tengri beliefs are still passed down as a combination of bad omens and traditions. We still circle around ovoos three times while throwing stones. Or if you’re in a car then you honk your car. It’s thought to bring good luck. And we still build our gers as he described. However most don’t know why they have to build exactly that way expect door to the south and hole on the top. (The first is to protect against the wind and the second is so you don’t suffocate). Christianity is gaining quite a lot of popularity especially by their charity work. But I would say vast majority of Mongolia is superstitious and believes in the supernatural and is mostly shaman-buddhist with some atheists.
Peter II You mentioned that most Mongolian people have a somewhat nebulous view on God. But how do they call him? Is it still Tengri, or Buddha, or is it something else?
Christian Changer We call god burkhan. The kh makes a throaty h sound. Many people think Buddha is god. If you said tenger to me (tenger is the modern mongolian term) then I would think you were talking about the sky before thinking about god. In fact I first heard of tengriism in crusader kings 2. But take it with a big heaping pile of salt. It may just be a testament to my ignorance and not representative of the whole population. But I can tell you that Tengriism and Buddhism is not dogmatic at all. Maybe this is the result of that. Oh and another very important aspect I forgot to mention is when a person is dying they have their last rites by a buddhist monk. And after their death they have a candle before their picture while monk chants play on some speakers repeating over and over.
35:39 This is true (I mean that Turks aren't Mongolians). I usually hear it the other way around though. That Greeks or some other ethnicity that hate the Turks tells Turks that they are Mongolian. But that last part is incorrect. 10% of Turkey (based on a survey I read from a couple of years ago is atheist or a deist. So, they believe in God, not in religion). There are also some nationalist Turks who dislike Islam. And say that they would be rather Tengri, because that's their true religion.
I cant wait to see more mythology and religion. Will you try to tackle the celtic ones? Most people avoid it because it's so poorly known and cause there are so many different subcultures within the celtic world. Also your comparison to germanic religion goes far deeper than I had expected. Just like the minor deities in tengrism arent good or evil, the Jötnar and Asir/Vanir arent really villains and heroes either.
Thank you! I was raised in a turkish family of muslims but I always knew I was meant for something else. I cut all contact with that religious lunatics years ago but always felt so alone. Like something was missing.. Now I know my past and path ❤️✨
@@bachka2790 The reason mongolia recognizes only kazakhs and kyrgyz as Turks, they are kinda mongolized.Because of it they all are look alike except the language.But in reality mongols and turks are not coming from same root.Turks are siberians but Mongols are not.Just the common geography force them to live similiar lifestyle.They learn from eachother much to survive in steppe.So what the mongol think about Turks cannot be taken as scientific and historical fact.
When you started to talk about Tengrist interaction with other religions it reminded me that pagan Hungary used to be religiously very diverse. There where the Hungarian and other steppe tribes who practised Tengriism, but also many localised Slavic, Germanic and Celtic pagan communities from the people who lived there before and were allowed to practise their faith freely. There are stories of Greek and Latin missionaries struggling a lot, because every village seemed to worship something else. Later when St. Stephen converted to Christianity to become the first King of Hungary and assimilate the now Kingdom into (christian) European society it caused a civil war with his uncle. Whether the Uncle (Koppány) just wanted to rule himself or truly was anti-christian is debatable, but in the ned it was a bloody civil war between the newly Christianised and the pagans, which the Christians won. As an additional interesting bit: under the Arpad dynasty (the original Hungarian royal line) Latin Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox were considered to be of "equal" standing. (Both churches received the same rights and privileges) Only after the Hapsburg takeover it became a fully "catholic" realm.
In mongolian traditional script, we wrote "tngri". Four script bonded together which is really rare in mongolian language. So it is a loan word, probably influenced by "turegs" who are east asian and prototurk people. But nowadays people just refer it to Sky. We usually think tngri is not a god. And tngri does not have physical shape or any symbolic represantation. It is like higher power surrounding the world and react to any act you did.
The norse runes probably derived from the old Greek scripts which was in turn derived from the Phoenician writing system. Likewise the Old Turkic Script was likely derived from the Aramaic alphabet which again, came from the Phoenician script.
Vern Etzel Those types of simple geometric shapes are the best suited for carving in hard materials like stone. So apart from probable common origins those two scripts are simply best suited for the writting surfaces available for both cultures.
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The double-cross in the Hungarian crest is also very similar to the letter "gy" in Old Hungarian runic script, which is being read as "egy" if there are no vowels connected to it. "Egy" means "One", which could also refer to Isten/Tengri, the God. Since there are barely any documents (if there are any at all) talking about this subject, then it is just another guess at what's the real meaning. Another theory suggests that we took the double-cross symbol from the Byzantines. I'd say both wake thoughts and make one think about it's origin. Very good video by the way, you've just got a new subscriber.
We were exposed to the orthodox church early on (liturgical words in Latvian (maybe Lithuanian too but im Latvian not Lithuanian) are from Old Church Slavonic) but it didnt really get a strong foot hold. (Insert Seinfeld joke here) The Catholic church sent a crusade of Teutonic knights against us i believe early 1200s, and so with threats of violence we "converted". But it never went way. Pagan traditions are still strong... stronger then any christian things. The summer solstice is the most important day of the year... its bigger then xmas. Even the most hard core religioua people are pagan at heart and its inescapable.
Since the 90s paganism had an awakening in response to how the u.s.s.r tried to stamp it out. We were not allowed to sing ( the Baltic stants are known for their song festivals with 20,000 strong choirs and we sang in peaceful protest to gain our freedom), we had to change the day we celebrated the solstice to the 24th of june to hide it. The Latvian "neo paganism" is called Dievturi ( which means the way of the gods i think) and Lithuanian is Druwi. Fun fact Latvian and Lithuanian are the oldest Indo-European languages still spoken. (Check out Geography Now to learn more lol)
Not oldest but more primitive. Contrary to common sense, logic says that the more time you give to something evolutive, like language or living beings, the more it will likely change. Greek is likely to be one of the more ancient because it split early and had some ancient words and god names, like Ouranos (Werunos, 'the sky itself', as oposed to Deiwos, 'luminous/celestial one')
This sky father and Earth mother system is also interesting because some Native Americans have a similar setup. Some Southwestern US cultures believe in a sky father and Earth mother, including the Navajo and Hopi.
I think @ 2:50, you mistook letter "ı", dotless i for L-l . It's Göktanrı, not Göktanrl. Skygod, Gök - Sky, tanrı - god. Also tanrı means tengri in modern Turkish.
Big fan of your videos. Very well researched. Great presentation... Also...very impressed that you deliver your information from your own knowledge & research rather than reading from a script. It feels more like a college/university lecture (That's a compliment. I love university style lectures). I wanted to come up with at least ONE constructive criticism (I always want at least 1 when I produce/create something). It's tough. It's very, very well done. The only thing that I would change about your delivery....you use the word "obviously" kind of a lot...and I think that's just a product of not working from a script...I think it's just a unique verbal flourish when you speak... (The same way I can't seem to break myself of ending half of my sentences with "Know what I mean?" when I am speaking without a script). Considering that was the only real criticism I could come up with...your videos are really well done. Very informative, entertaining and yet you avoid doing the things I see many historical content creators do...which is try to infuse their delivery with humor (which ain't a bad thing...if they are actually funny. Most aren't.) I appreciate that you don't make that mistake. Awesome video!
I’m a tengrist. I speak 5 different Turkic languages Turkish Uzbek, Kyrgyz, chuvash, and Yakut (Saha). Yakut is a tengrist language. It’s so loving and pure. Chuvash is also very connected to tengrism although the chuvash follow paganism/Christianity but I know they originally come from the same source as the other Turks. Turkic paganism and shamanism is very similar in my opinion. Tengrism differs by region. I see Yakutia, Mongolia, Tuva, and Altai being the main tengrist places. Though Altai people sometimes call it something different. The Kyrgyz and Kazakh are very connected to their source but identify as Muslim. A big tengrist awakening is happening. I generally see the Volga culture as being pagan although that’s because Finnic groups had an influence on chuvash’s culture. I think Mari El people have a pagan culture although it probably had an affect on Chuvashia .
i am mongolian and also a tengrist let me tell you how shamans work, shaman is a special person that has ties with his ancestors, great great grandfathers or grandmothers, mostly it is somewhere from your 9th generation it can vary in some cases, and the shaman replaces his soul with ancestors soul in short amount of time to let others know the will of tengri, or just to chat with your descendants, they talk in old language, at first it is very hard to understand, thats the kind of shamans you should go, now the shamans that you should not go are, the shamans that call for the omens or spirits of mountain land or rivers, they are less powerful and can gain your trust for his gain in power and like materialistic items, also never go to a shaman if the spirit of the shaman drink alot and eats non stop, they are mostly the bad omens, and lastly the shaman will never ask from you money, they are pure spirits from tengri and they dont have any lust for material items, but they do accept gifts but they will try to repay you with something else or knowledge
5:08 The symbol in the coat of arms does not represent the World Tree of Tegriism, but is the Lorraine Cross. The rest of the video is quite good, I just thought I should check that because I thought it odd that a symbol of a religion no longer practiced in Hungary would have such a prominent position on its flag, and as it turns out, it is not meant to be a symbol of Tengriism.
Would love to see some stuff on zoroastrianism, zunabil, and the Hellenistic traditions. Also some of the more obscure christian offshoots like nestorianism and miaphysites
Amazing video, Hilbert! I think an excellent video would be the Pre-Islamic Middle East! Or several in fact! From the Pre-Greek Persian cultures, to the Greeks and the Seleucid control of the region, to their fall and the revitalization of the Persian/Native society. As well as following the less talked about tribes in the area. The Nestorians for sure! The pre-Islamic Berbers. and others! Touching into North Africa / the southern Mediterranean and the Levant gives even more fun topics. An expansive video about Carthaginian society , a surprisingly representative state, descended from the Phoenicians. Not just their presence in war, empire, and Roman conflict. Soccatra, and the Coptic Christians out of Alexandria!
There's a lot of content on the ancient greek pantheon. Even on UA-cam. But QUALITY content, with a rich historical context, and perhaps a new perspective is always welcome in my eyes, and something I believe you could provide.
I’m just wondering how you made such an accurate and informative video! I mean, you mentioned that in Kazakhstan mostly intellectuals are into Tengrism. That’s soooo true, but where did you find that information? :D I mean, even Kazakhs don’t know that, ahah :D I’m just impressed how much time you spend making this video. Sadly, there is no much information about Tengrism available in Kazakh:( Anyway, Thank you for your awesome videos! Bir Tanir!
All our kazakh traditions are based on tengrism actually. The is*am was imposed on us and never really became a part of our culture. Moreover, considering how agressive its expansion is today lots of kazakhs become extremely isl*mophobic @@IranAzadLoading
Nowadays, it is like mixture of Buddhism and tengrism. My grandma says be gentle and passive, do goid deed(Buddhist doctrines). But mongolian ancient proverbs says be strong, brave, just, and honest or fulfilling your promise. Such as "Horse lands where he jumped to, man does what he said or promised."
A really excellent survey of Tengri. I have learned a lot about it and have a Mongolian friend with whom I will talk about it. Any possibility of doing the same for Manchuria? Thank you..
Would be cool to hear some of the Baltic Pagan traditions and philosophy, since they were the last Pagans in Europe before being converted to Christianity. Of course also interesting because of the Viking and Finnic influence (the god of thunder in Lithuanian is for instance Perkunas which of course closely relates to the Finnish Perkele)
Jürg never knew that! Awesome :) looks like I need to do a bit more research on this myself... Too bad all the texts on this matter are in Lithuanian (and are also the reason why I try to learn the language )
Thank you for mentioning the Hungarian tengriism and the tenger connection! Its a lesser known fact. Also kök tengri / gök tenri (eternal blue sky) - kék tenger (blue sea). Sea is also a symbolic word for eternity, endlessness in hungarian.
The parallels with Indo-European religions are very thought provoking. Reconstructed Slavic paganism also honors "dark" and "light" in the form of Chernobog and Byelobog, and I think there may be a similar dynamic in Germanic religion, with the importance of Loki and a great variety of lesser entities. The cosmology, the central concern for a Sky Father figure, and karma stick out too. I suppose it could be that all share a common ancestry in a steppe shamanism going back many thousands of years, a case of convergent evolution, or cultural diffusion from one to the other over the centuries.
Haven't watched video yet but thanks in advance for covering this! I've always been interested in Mongolian shamanism! Will you be covering shamanism as a whole in a later video?
I'm 38 and was always told by father he never wanted me to embrace Islam..he always said tengri was the way I could even be a Christian but a moslim...
Instead of eje, we Mongolians say Etugen ekh The shaman actually calls on their ancestor's spirits. The spirit, called ongod, can fortelll the future and pretty much do anything. Ongod don't go off to the wilderness and go in things. They stay in the earth and help their descendants. The suld is the "honor" of a person. If you lose your suld you get very unlucky, it's just bad. The wind horse, called khimorri is the life of a people. Shamans need to have a ongod to become a shaman. They can discover their ongod by visiting a good shaman. Bad shamans might call on a hungry ghost, which might bring bad luck. I know these because I'm a Mongolian Buddhist. Still, my family worships shamanic things along with mainly Buddhist beliefs.
This was a great video. I hope the others will be just as interesting. If possible, would you feel comfortable explaining African religions? They also seem to not get a lot of attention. It would be nice to learn about them.
This whole ancestors remains in burial mounds as long as they are remembered, until they travels to rivers, mountains, woods, so one should protect nature thing, reminds me of the Norse. The Norse believed their ancestors - and in particular the one person who cleared and built the farm - a part of their spirit remained in burial mounds. Later they take rest in the farms, and are the predecessors of the Scandinavian Nisse/Tomte spirits. On the island where I live all the farms are named after some unknown ancestors - Toregarden, Arnfinngarden, etc - and from what I'm told they used to believe that the original inhabitant of the farm might still walk the farm. Perhaps they even might be, in a similar way to how they became nisser/tomter in Scandinavia, the predecessors of the Icelandic elves, wh the authorities have to go around when building new roads. Here in Norway there are still people who believe in these spirits, and I remember one case where the city wanted to clear an old house but the owner refused because of the spirits. The similarities between Tengriism and Indo-European religions are remarkable. I've only read briefly about Tengriism before, so I did not know all of these interesting details that you provide. Thank you for an awesome video.
Tengri literally means Sky. Khukh Tengri is Blue Sky. We Mongols traditionally don't believe there is a sky "god" but we worship the sky and the universe as whole
In Turkic; Gök(khukh) means sky, blue, eternal. Tangrı> Tang(horizon), -yeri(place).. So when we say Gök tengri, it means Eternal Horizon Place.. So it means universe. I am really be honorful of this great idea. Our ancestors didnt give God a human character, they see god as universe itself and everything is part of it.
Hi my friend i am Hindu and indian I want to know that what is the religious of Mongolian people islaam muslim so mongol people is muslim ,ya Christan ,Buddhist my friend say me mongol people is muslim is this true
No, actually Tengri means God, and kukh means sky or blue. In kazakh we say Kök Tänri (Sky God, Blue God)
Like pantheism?
@@muratozgun2813 you really need to read up on Tengriism because it very much talks about Tengri being a sky God
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Do you know the exact version of this song made up of the lyrics in the Orkhun Inscriptions? I could not find it anywhere.
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@@hiddenwoodsben making more vids is where hes at
@@thestrategistbrit i can't wait!
Fun fact, I am Kazakh/Mongolian and the first Kazakh word I learned is Shanyrak, which is the crossing of wood you see in the Tengriist symbols, at the top of the yurta, and in many flags like the Kyrgyz flag 🇰🇬
tsamkhraa in mongolian, comes from classical mongolian “chanqaraq” related to kazakh shanyrak
A Mongol warrior who commits a terrible deed and loses his soul to the underworld, then has to seek a shaman to explain him how to get his soul back, then embark to a journey to the underworld to redeem himself and recover his soul... I'd totally watch a series about that!
Spirited away is essentially a Shinto version of that
That's not how it works, but for artistic creativity I think it can be a good story.
Hellblade senuas sacrifice, is a Celtic version.
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You can probably count 4th episode of The Book of Boba Fett that way. Din Djarin, the Mandalorian, committed bad deed, then he went to the underside of the world he came to, met blacksmith woman - the shaman - and got instructions on how to redeem himself.
It's quite funny how similar the story is.
Great informative video. But PLEASE for the love of tengri, stop using chinese music in videos about Turks and Mongols.
I've seen this so many times and it hurts me inside. Turks and Mongols were both the biggest enemies of Chinese back in time. As such, Turkish or Mongolic cultures have almost nothing in common with chinese, including music, beliefs, dressing and food.
Tell that the the mongols writing system and their control of China for a time.
Serhan Gul saol reis ağzımdan aldın
I’m Mongolian and I know
Ochir Ochir ok reis
yeah ESPECIALLY with the recent popularization of various mongol bands like hun-hurr tu... it should be PRETTY FRIGGIN EASY to find some mongolian trax for this.
I want to thank you for this amazing video man. It's pretty precise. Thanks alot!
- From a Siberian Tatar. 😊
I'm tatar as well :))
@@serhansali are you muslim?
Well thank you. This has been the beginning of my study of my Mongolian heritage
Hungarians and turks had also same tengrism religion.
Nom Anor Yes unfortunatelly.
Abrahamic religions are filthy desert killing cults
@@Oghuzpervert1 The world certainly wasn't much more peaceful before the spread of abrahamic religions.
@@szekelylunahun3196 Hungarians is Not Huns
Алтайские горы Yes, we are.
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The Surt jive = survived
Norman Rowsell we remember you
>inb4 Thomas Rowsell becomes a God in new Paganism.
What was that?
Tengri=Tanri (modern Turkish)=god
Tengriism: the coolest faith you've never heard of.
@NihilisticEntropy if you find terrorists somehow cool then maybe yes.
Kultegin Goren you believe in fake news?? That’s absolute shit bro,,,,
@@silly_cat. read the quran. Even in the first pages it is written how allah is gonna punish the "non believers".
@NihilisticEntropy Ameen
@NihilisticEntropy It is not Islam. Almost turks got Islam from Arabic nations. But before that tengriism was true faith of this ethnic groups. And tengriism include shamanism, nature's spiritism, agnosticism.
That annoys me so much that Mao and the communist party destroyed those artifacts..
Communism is cancer... never let it take over your country!
They destroyed and stole a lot of things, including many thing in Mongolia. In the early 20 century Mongolia were highly Buddhist religious country. They were worshiping it blindly and it was really killing them. Because of it at that time the total population of the country was half a million and over 60% of the males were monk who were not allowed to have wives and children, and they had somewhere 10.000 monasteries. Because of the religion, only place that is close to being an school where you get an education and academy where historical and scientific files and records stored was those monasteries which all of them were destroyed and sacked by the communists. They purged over 38.000 people most of them were nobles and monk (only educated people of the country) and somewhere over 108 caravans of stolen loots from these monasteries have went to China and over 200 caravans went to soviet union.
@@LeviathanSpeaks1469 look what they are doing to uighur Turks too
Well Communism and Socialism are cancer to any society it infects, dont let history repeat itself!!!
Communism isn't cancer, people are cancer. Go ask the Native Americans and the Aborigines and the people of the First Nations their opinion about "Capitalism".
Fascinating to see how similar the traditions of the Mongols/Turks are to what we assume to be the Proto-Indoeuropean tradition, from the figures of the Gods to the teachings about the soul! It seems as if the nomadic lifestyle in the steppes very much directs the focus of a people towards the radiant Sky and its symbolism of Light, Eternity, Masculinity and Virtue.
Also Finn’s-Hungarians-Japanese also similar cultures and most of the middle Asian ethnics believed same religion:) and Mongolians took Turks as a fighter in their army many years they been living same are and they use to other’s cultures,language is not same only but it’s Ural-Altai family so they are similar..
Even there were Turkish army in Mongolians they been in war many times with other Turkish countries 🤦🏼♂️
Turks are proud of Tengriism because it was their ancestral religion aswell not because they claim to be Mongol.
TENGRI FOREVER!
Hopefully all Turks revert back to their roots. Tengriism is a part of your national identity. As is paganism to most Europeans. Abrahamic religions poorly represent our nations history and how we came to be. Tengriism and paganism on the other hand evolved along with our civilizations.
Königreich - right! These abrahamic religions only created wars, blurred our cultures and killed unique beauty of nations. We should return to our pagan beliefs! Abrahamic religions just want slaves, not free people living in a harmony with the world. I’m a Kazakh, a nomadic nation in the past, our traditions and culture is strongly connected with Tengrism, Altaic culture. Our daily lives are connected with Tengrism. I hope islam will one day disappear in my country totally because our traditions even contradict with islam. Ppl who call themselves muslims think they are muslims because they believe in God and pray in funerals. That’s all where the religion goes. They don’t practice it, Tengrism is so natural. I hope ppl understand finally that they’re actually Tengri ppl by their beliefs.
ToBe Honest Paganism is currently the fastest growing religion in the world. I’m not sure if Tengriism is growing as fast as paganism is. I know the Hungarians have a yearly Kural Taj to celebrate Altaic heritage, inviting a ton of other steppe peoples to celebrate with them. But that’s as far as my knowledge goes.
yaşa sorry I should have clarified. Fastest growth as a percentage annually. In regards to quantity Islam is obviously the fastest due to very high fertility.
In many ways you can see allot of this in Native American culture and religion. Might be something to look into in the future and show how similar they are.
Both are shamanic religions. It's so interesting how every religion ties up at one point somehow.
@Chitragupta but they do still share some relation. If not genetic, they would have had cultural influence from coexisting in similar regions.
Khok Tengri Altai Közektsin. 🇹🇷🇺🇿🇹🇲🇲🇳🇰🇬🇰🇿🇦🇿👊🦅
Хөх тэнгэр blue sky
🇹🇷🇰🇿🇹🇲🇦🇿🇰🇬🇺🇿🇲🇳❤
salam
@ÖLÜMLÜHAYATBUGÜNVARSINYARINYOKSUN Yes that what tengism is came from not mongoel but volga bulgars
@@Email5507 Volga bulgars are european family yes
Slavic Paganism or Zoroastrianism would be really nice.
Mongol Arabs and all panga Realigion is based on Hinduism God's..... Lord Shiva lingam can be find all over this place ....Mongol followed ancient Shamanic Shiva Realigion along with Buddism Just like the people of Himalayas
@@bikkichettri5554 WTF?
@ÖLÜMLÜHAYATBUGÜNVARSINYARINYOKSUN did you even eead what I typed?
@ there are still Europeans with unbroken pagansim.
@ no. There are people in Scandinavia, and Germany that have unbroken pagansim. Not neopagan larpers, but REAL pagans that had it passed on. I also know an Irish pagan who has taught me and passed on many things to me.
I was researching German history via your videos and stumbled upon this....i have studied runic inscriptions and Teutonic beliefs....and so many puzzle pieces fell into place via the context of this video..bravo....I am in love with this topic now....
Add Çağıl Çayır. He have books about origin of runik alfabet. He can give You German source.
So glad to see an in depth exploration of a region/philosophy/religion that is almost unknown in the West. More! Please!
Can you do an episode on Sami religion or Maori religion
+1 sami
A video, please, on all aboriginal peoples still practiced today as well as in the recent past 2K years for Australian, Saami, Polynesian, Native American including north, south, and central, African, Pre-Christian/Muslim/Judaism religions around the world including Europe. I know a lot to ask, but hell, it is interesting stuff here.
I'd also be in favor of a Sami episode and also one on old Slav religion.
Hilbert should do an aborigines dream time story. Doesn't seem unlikely, he is making good content.
Basically I think we'd like to see videos on every religion that was popular prior to the Abrahamic religions or the other major world religions. I know I'd like that certainly.
A 40 minute video, hm? Well, best get my popcorn!
Same
I should be doing English homework but oh well...
why do english homework when you can watch this and balance out the stress in your life? ;)
@@linklgas1691 well said
ᠨᠧᠭᠣᠯᠦᠮᠢᠶᠠᠲᠢᠭᠠ ᠹᠠᠮᠣᠤᠨᠠ Thanks 😀
LMAO I LOVE THAT REFERANCE TO SURVIVE THE JIVE XD
I hope you do more videos on religion, although I hope controversy doesn't put an end to it.
Man I can't believe I used to ignore this channel when it was being recommended to me, sucks knowing when you missed out on something
Love this topic, if you can can you do a video on Native American religion like the Sioux, Cherokee, or Iroquois ? Or any not famous religion like I wonder what the Australian Aboriginals have as there beliefs.
kinda hard to trust the information you get on those topics due to misinformation and g e n o c i d e
Aboriginal religion revolves predominantly around "dreamtime" and their ancestors from what I understand. Seems to be a very "primeval" type of spirituality, probably very old, though the elders who practice it worry about its future because apparently the aboriginal youth seems much more preoccupied with hip-hop and other anti-culture because they consider themselves "black" now, even though they're likely not even really related to modern Africans. Interesting but a bit sad.
Aboriginals have a variety of religions. Though it's not commonly thought of as such, they have individual nations akin to those you list of the Native Americans and they have a range of belief systems. Though it is true that dreamtime stories are usually how legends are taught, I have learned that the dreamtime is more a way of thinking about time than the religion itself. I would suggest narrowing in particular nations and their creation stories, rather than searching for something wholly universal.
Roger Theil well probably never get the answer but but I’ve been curious the religionists beliefs of the sentinels in the india ocean since they haven’t had basically any contact for 10,000 years from what we know. The only thing that’s 100% certain no matter how isolated or where , all humans and society have a belief system.
Caerulea Tigris I maybe confused it might be a in Africa or South America people but the they reffed to the past In front of them and the future behind them?
I was born into a Muslim Turkish family, and now in my fifties, I can finally say that everything has changed for the better! Ever since I can remember, I had so many questions about Islam, but I felt so guilty for even thinking them. That guilt, the helplessness, and the constant pressure to just follow the rules led me down a path of anxiety and depression. I felt like I wasn’t worthy of being loved. But then, I found peace in nature and rescuing dogs-they gave me a sense of belonging that I so desperately needed.
For years, I researched other religions, searching for something that truly resonated with me. After five incredibly tough years of questioning everything-my faith, my existence-I finally discovered what aligns perfectly with who I am: Tengrism! I can’t even begin to explain how much sense it all makes. The harmony, the balance, the goodness, and the positivity-it’s exactly what I’ve been searching for my entire life! Islam never gave me the peace I craved, but now, as a Turk, I’ve found it in Tengrism, and I’m beyond thrilled about this journey!
I’m so excited for what lies ahead, and I finally feel like I’m exactly where I’m meant to be!
I am looking forward to more videos on Mongolian culture and history from you.
Very nice video Hilbert! I love long and in-depth videos. I'd like to see one day a video about Finnish shamanism and folklore, I bet it would be very interesting.
Why you guys always trying to ignore Turks in the history. Even the old language are coming from the same root between Mongols and Turkic nations. In the Cengiz Han’s army nearly half of the soldiers are Turk and half of them are Mongols... So Turks doesn’t try to be like Mongols, they live together and thats why they influeced themselves.
@@starsantasta4351 what in the fucking fuck are you talking about?
@ULU RİMET shout? Ok I will shout now, YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON!
Şahin Asgerov For good reasons, Turk.
Cengiz han's army %90 turks make some research and cengiz han is turkic
@@alexaltair6076 alright barbarian
Thanks Hilbert. That's one religion I'd never looked into, and you provided a very good introduction.
I learnt an awful lot from this video and wow: what a belief system! Balance, harmony, environmental respect along with shamans and animal guides...why are we not encouraging this across the world? :)
Because of Abrahamic Monotheism.
Because it’s totally against materialism. Living harmoniously on earth getting only what you need, looking after it’s balance ,not abusing earth and animals for profit … whole world benefit it but not those greedy ones who control the world.
@@walterselens8997 Pure Abrahamic Monotheism (Islam)
Because the religion teaches not to force religion. meaning it has very little chance to be spread outside of those who become intrested and eventually convet because they start to believe in it.
and also the major religions like to be spread and fight wars to spread it destroy culture and intergrate what they can't. The novgrodian prince knew the mongolians calm religious sentement and after beating catholic crusades he surrendered before the Mongols ever sacked them. As the Catholics would destroy orthodoxy the Tengrists would really not care.
Would like to see a video about Tengrism and its relation with various Turkic peoples, which you touched up very briefly here when you mentioned Turkey and Krygzstan. Great, informative video, as always. Cheers n' beers!
In Turkey, it is believed that there are about 30000 + Tengriists, but unlike other muslim communities, we have a lot of rituals passing from the Tengriist belief, and i consider myself a Tengriist (you cannot become a Tengriist by law though )
And we consider ourselves Turkic, not Mongolian
That's the way brother leave the desert cults and embrace your ancestral gods.
im Kazakh and there are also many people considering themselves tengri, we have lots of traditions proving that. Also even though we are turkic, we also have mongol blood, Chengiz han conquer-red central asia and his sons became rulers of modern kazakhstan
@@SunnyGoga Anatolian turks also not pure blood in a way but they consider themselves as a nation of turks. being a turkic nation is also not change the culture by having some different dnas.
@@Oghuzpervert1 so fucking based its unbelievable
@@yokartik no turkic people is “pure” eveyone mixed with other peoples
Perhaps the gods that once represented the sky became ocean or sea gods because these are people who came from the steps of central asia. Which would mean that they never saw the ocean. So when thay saw it, and it looked like a reflection of the sky thay named it after it. Just my thoughts 😊
Vladimir Kresovic
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This video taught me more about mongolian religion than living in mongolia my entire life. Kek.
Peter II So tengriism isn't really practiced in Mongolia anymore? If that's the case, what people mostly do belive in?
Christian Changer In a vague notion of a god and in existence of spirits and ghosts. Basically we believe god and such exists but they aren’t really detailed. Like it’s the most bland god you can think of. Heck most people don’t even know when or where the buddha was born much less what sect they belong in but they still identify as buddhist.
However most of the Tengri beliefs are still passed down as a combination of bad omens and traditions. We still circle around ovoos three times while throwing stones. Or if you’re in a car then you honk your car. It’s thought to bring good luck. And we still build our gers as he described. However most don’t know why they have to build exactly that way expect door to the south and hole on the top. (The first is to protect against the wind and the second is so you don’t suffocate).
Christianity is gaining quite a lot of popularity especially by their charity work. But I would say vast majority of Mongolia is superstitious and believes in the supernatural and is mostly shaman-buddhist with some atheists.
Peter II You mentioned that most Mongolian people have a somewhat nebulous view on God. But how do they call him? Is it still Tengri, or Buddha, or is it something else?
Christian Changer We call god burkhan. The kh makes a throaty h sound. Many people think Buddha is god. If you said tenger to me (tenger is the modern mongolian term) then I would think you were talking about the sky before thinking about god. In fact I first heard of tengriism in crusader kings 2. But take it with a big heaping pile of salt. It may just be a testament to my ignorance and not representative of the whole population. But I can tell you that Tengriism and Buddhism is not dogmatic at all. Maybe this is the result of that.
Oh and another very important aspect I forgot to mention is when a person is dying they have their last rites by a buddhist monk. And after their death they have a candle before their picture while monk chants play on some speakers repeating over and over.
Peter II Man, religion is a very fascinating and complex thing. Thanks for the answers!
This is the only video on tengrism I've found thankyou so much
God damn, 40 minutes - stellar effort, Hilbert.
Fantastic stuff!
TENGRI BIZ MENEN
TANRI TURKU KORUSUN
@Battulga Munkhbayar omg i'm Turkic and i have also blue dots. omg
@ULU RİMET Blue dots, are mongolic dots. I have 2 of them on ny body.
@ULU RİMET iyi, mavi renkli bir doğum lekesi gıbı. bunun adına *mongolian blue spots* Diyorlar
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35:39 This is true (I mean that Turks aren't Mongolians). I usually hear it the other way around though. That Greeks or some other ethnicity that hate the Turks tells Turks that they are Mongolian. But that last part is incorrect. 10% of Turkey (based on a survey I read from a couple of years ago is atheist or a deist. So, they believe in God, not in religion).
There are also some nationalist Turks who dislike Islam. And say that they would be rather Tengri, because that's their true religion.
That's true not only that but it's not %10 it's. %30
@@ers4690 yalan
@@theplaylister30 Arap muhonun dinide yalan ama meyse
Mongol turk tatar are altai people all followed tengrism...
I'm a Tengrist from Turkey. Turkey's deism and atheism ratio increasing so fast.
why chinese music in background? i'm a mongolian and i find that quite offensive.
I m chinese and even i am offended. The music make it so cheesy.
Are you the heir of the golden family? or sons of Stalin?
@NihilisticEntropy stfu chinese bitch
Make your own video then.
I am Turkish and this Chinese music is disrespect to our religion
I cant wait to see more mythology and religion. Will you try to tackle the celtic ones? Most people avoid it because it's so poorly known and cause there are so many different subcultures within the celtic world.
Also your comparison to germanic religion goes far deeper than I had expected. Just like the minor deities in tengrism arent good or evil, the Jötnar and Asir/Vanir arent really villains and heroes either.
Thank you! I was raised in a turkish family of muslims but I always knew I was meant for something else. I cut all contact with that religious lunatics years ago but always felt so alone. Like something was missing.. Now I know my past and path ❤️✨
Apricot90 my child come to the roots and learn the will of tengri from a shaman
@Ksjs Jdjdb no he isn't
@Ksjs Jdjdb no, im Cuman
So you would rather worship demons and idols and symbols than the universal God ( Allah almighty) I hope ur guided back
@ULU RİMET Yavaş, düşük ırk bunlar anlamazlar şimdi cihat ilan ederler.
im turkish and i also follow the path of tegriism im fed up of been judged by muslims
I am with you as Agnostic, as a Hungarian :D,
@@bachka2790 The reason mongolia recognizes only kazakhs and kyrgyz as Turks, they are kinda mongolized.Because of it they all are look alike except the language.But in reality mongols and turks are not coming from same root.Turks are siberians but Mongols are not.Just the common geography force them to live similiar lifestyle.They learn from eachother much to survive in steppe.So what the mongol think about Turks cannot be taken as scientific and historical fact.
@@bachka2790 nobody cares what 2 million shepherds think
@NihilisticEntropy Get the fuck out of here.
@NihilisticEntropy Who gives a shit about Turkey ?
Some Good Music From This Region Of The World: Batzorig Vaanchig, Hun-Hurr Tu, Northern Lights - Altai Khangai & Mamer :-)
40minutes of Hilbert talking about the Mongols! Sorry kids, dinner will be late today!
You know you can cook dinner and watch a video at the same time right?
Thank You, very interesting. What brought me to your site is I ran across some Mongolian music that was fantastic.
When you started to talk about Tengrist interaction with other religions it reminded me that pagan Hungary used to be religiously very diverse.
There where the Hungarian and other steppe tribes who practised Tengriism, but also many localised Slavic, Germanic and Celtic pagan communities from the people who lived there before and were allowed to practise their faith freely. There are stories of Greek and Latin missionaries struggling a lot, because every village seemed to worship something else.
Later when St. Stephen converted to Christianity to become the first King of Hungary and assimilate the now Kingdom into (christian) European society it caused a civil war with his uncle.
Whether the Uncle (Koppány) just wanted to rule himself or truly was anti-christian is debatable, but in the ned it was a bloody civil war between the newly Christianised and the pagans, which the Christians won.
As an additional interesting bit: under the Arpad dynasty (the original Hungarian royal line) Latin Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox were considered to be of "equal" standing. (Both churches received the same rights and privileges) Only after the Hapsburg takeover it became a fully "catholic" realm.
Thanks For This Fantastic Video! I've Been Wanting To Know More About Tengrism!
Do a video on Shintoism, it's very interesting as you should know.
In mongolian traditional script, we wrote "tngri". Four script bonded together which is really rare in mongolian language. So it is a loan word, probably influenced by "turegs" who are east asian and prototurk people. But nowadays people just refer it to Sky. We usually think tngri is not a god. And tngri does not have physical shape or any symbolic represantation. It is like higher power surrounding the world and react to any act you did.
symbols look much like runes. any relation?
The norse runes probably derived from the old Greek scripts which was in turn derived from the Phoenician writing system. Likewise the Old Turkic Script was likely derived from the Aramaic alphabet which again, came from the Phoenician script.
thanks. so they share a bronze age grandfather :)
i was thinking the same thing. Very reminiscent of Norse Runes. I wonder if there is a distant connection between the two at all.
Vern Etzel Those types of simple geometric shapes are the best suited for carving in hard materials like stone. So apart from probable common origins those two scripts are simply best suited for the writting surfaces available for both cultures.
Do you really want to know....are you prepared to go down the rabbit hole...are you willing to have an opened mind and question pop-history??? ARE YOU!?????
Well here my friend! Knock yourself out! :)))))
vieilleeurope.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/the-genocide-of-the-old-scythian-writing-ordered-by-the-popes/
He speaks as if he belives in everything hes talking about. I appreciate that.
The double-cross in the Hungarian crest is also very similar to the letter "gy" in Old Hungarian runic script, which is being read as "egy" if there are no vowels connected to it. "Egy" means "One", which could also refer to Isten/Tengri, the God. Since there are barely any documents (if there are any at all) talking about this subject, then it is just another guess at what's the real meaning. Another theory suggests that we took the double-cross symbol from the Byzantines. I'd say both wake thoughts and make one think about it's origin. Very good video by the way, you've just got a new subscriber.
Hunharia means land of Huns. They add their contutition that they are Turk
You should look into Latvian/Lithuanian paganism
We were exposed to the orthodox church early on (liturgical words in Latvian (maybe Lithuanian too but im Latvian not Lithuanian) are from Old Church Slavonic) but it didnt really get a strong foot hold. (Insert Seinfeld joke here) The Catholic church sent a crusade of Teutonic knights against us i believe early 1200s, and so with threats of violence we "converted". But it never went way. Pagan traditions are still strong... stronger then any christian things. The summer solstice is the most important day of the year... its bigger then xmas. Even the most hard core religioua people are pagan at heart and its inescapable.
Since the 90s paganism had an awakening in response to how the u.s.s.r tried to stamp it out. We were not allowed to sing ( the Baltic stants are known for their song festivals with 20,000 strong choirs and we sang in peaceful protest to gain our freedom), we had to change the day we celebrated the solstice to the 24th of june to hide it. The Latvian "neo paganism" is called Dievturi ( which means the way of the gods i think) and Lithuanian is Druwi. Fun fact Latvian and Lithuanian are the oldest Indo-European languages still spoken. (Check out Geography Now to learn more lol)
Survive the Jive.
Not oldest but more primitive. Contrary to common sense, logic says that the more time you give to something evolutive, like language or living beings, the more it will likely change. Greek is likely to be one of the more ancient because it split early and had some ancient words and god names, like Ouranos (Werunos, 'the sky itself', as oposed to Deiwos, 'luminous/celestial one')
@@rikospostmodernlife Yes greeks are ancient people
This sky father and Earth mother system is also interesting because some Native Americans have a similar setup. Some Southwestern US cultures believe in a sky father and Earth mother, including the Navajo and Hopi.
Well they are our cousins. pretty much they went from siberia and crossed to alaska and went down south
This is a topic ive been waiting for for so long, thanks !
I think @ 2:50, you mistook letter "ı", dotless i for L-l . It's Göktanrı, not Göktanrl. Skygod, Gök - Sky, tanrı - god. Also tanrı means tengri in modern Turkish.
Khokh Tenger in MOngolic ,Khokh is blue ,Tenger is sky ,Blue sky
A very interesting language, I wish i could learn it somehow.
@@odlaryurduazrbaycan303 i agree. Tengrizm is a Turkic belief. Mongols stole it from us. We turks are not mongols.
@@SadBoy-fq9mn xd
GleaKhan we are not arap no mongol we are siberian
Big fan of your videos. Very well researched. Great presentation...
Also...very impressed that you deliver your information from your own knowledge & research rather than reading from a script. It feels more like a college/university lecture (That's a compliment. I love university style lectures).
I wanted to come up with at least ONE constructive criticism (I always want at least 1 when I produce/create something). It's tough. It's very, very well done. The only thing that I would change about your delivery....you use the word "obviously" kind of a lot...and I think that's just a product of not working from a script...I think it's just a unique verbal flourish when you speak... (The same way I can't seem to break myself of ending half of my sentences with "Know what I mean?" when I am speaking without a script).
Considering that was the only real criticism I could come up with...your videos are really well done. Very informative, entertaining and yet you avoid doing the things I see many historical content creators do...which is try to infuse their delivery with humor (which ain't a bad thing...if they are actually funny. Most aren't.) I appreciate that you don't make that mistake.
Awesome video!
As a Tengrist myself, I approve this video.
Thanks :) I will share this.
Keep up this sort of video. Great work!
I would love to see your sources! Information on tengriism is so hard to come by!
A podcast is something that i definitely would listen to no matter the subject!
I’m a tengrist. I speak 5 different Turkic languages Turkish Uzbek, Kyrgyz, chuvash, and Yakut (Saha). Yakut is a tengrist language. It’s so loving and pure. Chuvash is also very connected to tengrism although the chuvash follow paganism/Christianity but I know they originally come from the same source as the other Turks. Turkic paganism and shamanism is very similar in my opinion. Tengrism differs by region. I see Yakutia, Mongolia, Tuva, and Altai being the main tengrist places. Though Altai people sometimes call it something different. The Kyrgyz and Kazakh are very connected to their source but identify as Muslim. A big tengrist awakening is happening. I generally see the Volga culture as being pagan although that’s because Finnic groups had an influence on chuvash’s culture. I think Mari El people have a pagan culture although it probably had an affect on Chuvashia .
That was so interesting, thank you for taking this direction.
i am mongolian and also a tengrist let me tell you how shamans work, shaman is a special person that has ties with his ancestors, great great grandfathers or grandmothers, mostly it is somewhere from your 9th generation it can vary in some cases, and the shaman replaces his soul with ancestors soul in short amount of time to let others know the will of tengri, or just to chat with your descendants, they talk in old language, at first it is very hard to understand, thats the kind of shamans you should go, now the shamans that you should not go are, the shamans that call for the omens or spirits of mountain land or rivers, they are less powerful and can gain your trust for his gain in power and like materialistic items, also never go to a shaman if the spirit of the shaman drink alot and eats non stop, they are mostly the bad omens, and lastly the shaman will never ask from you money, they are pure spirits from tengri and they dont have any lust for material items, but they do accept gifts but they will try to repay you with something else or knowledge
Can you tell more about Tengrism? Like if there are regional creation stories and about nature spirits?
Loved the topic! Would love to see a video on the ancient Canaanite religions.
Short answer: Tengrism at first, but certain mongol hordes adopted foreign religions later on.
Mongols ruling adopted other religion for politics
Yes, later on most of them converted to either Islam or Buddhism
Wow, @ 13:30
It's beautiful, you've really outdone yourself Hilbert!
5:08 The symbol in the coat of arms does not represent the World Tree of Tegriism, but is the Lorraine Cross. The rest of the video is quite good, I just thought I should check that because I thought it odd that a symbol of a religion no longer practiced in Hungary would have such a prominent position on its flag, and as it turns out, it is not meant to be a symbol of Tengriism.
maybe hungarians change the original meaning ?
really great and full lesson. thank you so much!
Would love to see some stuff on zoroastrianism, zunabil, and the Hellenistic traditions. Also some of the more obscure christian offshoots like nestorianism and miaphysites
This was a great video, I've been waiting for this for a vary long time.
Amazing video, Hilbert!
I think an excellent video would be the Pre-Islamic Middle East! Or several in fact!
From the Pre-Greek Persian cultures, to the Greeks and the Seleucid control of the region, to their fall and the revitalization of the Persian/Native society.
As well as following the less talked about tribes in the area. The Nestorians for sure! The pre-Islamic Berbers. and others!
Touching into North Africa / the southern Mediterranean and the Levant gives even more fun topics. An expansive video about Carthaginian society , a surprisingly representative state, descended from the Phoenicians. Not just their presence in war, empire, and Roman conflict. Soccatra, and the Coptic Christians out of Alexandria!
There's a lot of content on the ancient greek pantheon. Even on UA-cam. But QUALITY content, with a rich historical context, and perhaps a new perspective is always welcome in my eyes, and something I believe you could provide.
I’m just wondering how you made such an accurate and informative video! I mean, you mentioned that in Kazakhstan mostly intellectuals are into Tengrism. That’s soooo true, but where did you find that information? :D I mean, even Kazakhs don’t know that, ahah :D
I’m just impressed how much time you spend making this video. Sadly, there is no much information about Tengrism available in Kazakh:(
Anyway, Thank you for your awesome videos!
Bir Tanir!
because tengrism is not religion of kazakhs
@@yeldos you need to go back to school as you have some trouble comprehending written text
That's true. I've spent roughly 7 years studying tengrism in Russian mostly and I am completely amazed by the accuracy and thoroughness of the video.
What do they use as sources tho? Is it based on different traditions or do they conjecture it up based on vits they find here and there?
All our kazakh traditions are based on tengrism actually. The is*am was imposed on us and never really became a part of our culture. Moreover, considering how agressive its expansion is today lots of kazakhs become extremely isl*mophobic @@IranAzadLoading
Doing a presentation on this, thanks for making such a great resource
This was brilliant, thank you!
Thank you!
Nowadays, it is like mixture of Buddhism and tengrism. My grandma says be gentle and passive, do goid deed(Buddhist doctrines). But mongolian ancient proverbs says be strong, brave, just, and honest or fulfilling your promise. Such as "Horse lands where he jumped to, man does what he said or promised."
A really excellent survey of Tengri. I have learned a lot about it and have a Mongolian friend with whom I will talk about it. Any possibility of doing the same for Manchuria? Thank you..
Love this. always found the mongols interesting and this add a substantial amount to my picture of them.
Would be cool to hear some of the Baltic Pagan traditions and philosophy, since they were the last Pagans in Europe before being converted to Christianity. Of course also interesting because of the Viking and Finnic influence (the god of thunder in Lithuanian is for instance Perkunas which of course closely relates to the Finnish Perkele)
Jürg never knew that! Awesome :) looks like I need to do a bit more research on this myself... Too bad all the texts on this matter are in Lithuanian (and are also the reason why I try to learn the language )
Thank you for mentioning the Hungarian tengriism and the tenger connection! Its a lesser known fact.
Also kök tengri / gök tenri (eternal blue sky) - kék tenger (blue sea). Sea is also a symbolic word for eternity, endlessness in hungarian.
In qazaq language tengri, or tenir means the Lord. And because of huns, chinese and japanese emperors calls son of the sky.
This was a great video! I definitely think the length was good, but I don't mind a longer video.
Can you do one on Bön please. Great video on something there isn't much info about
The parallels with Indo-European religions are very thought provoking.
Reconstructed Slavic paganism also honors "dark" and "light" in the form of Chernobog and Byelobog, and I think there may be a similar dynamic in Germanic religion, with the importance of Loki and a great variety of lesser entities. The cosmology, the central concern for a Sky Father figure, and karma stick out too.
I suppose it could be that all share a common ancestry in a steppe shamanism going back many thousands of years, a case of convergent evolution, or cultural diffusion from one to the other over the centuries.
Indo-Europeans were steppe nomads too a long time ago after all
Haven't watched video yet but thanks in advance for covering this! I've always been interested in Mongolian shamanism! Will you be covering shamanism as a whole in a later video?
not mongolian. Its name is Turkic Mythology
@@Yarluqaduq knk Turkic-Mongolic myth diye gecer bazi ufak farklar var çünkü
Loved the video. Thanks for making so much effort. 🙏
I really love this please do some more.
Really interesting vid. Thxs a lot!
I'm 38 and was always told by father he never wanted me to embrace Islam..he always said tengri was the way I could even be a Christian but a moslim...
Wat?
What?
What?
What about Jewish?
goddam this channel just gets better and better
Instead of eje, we Mongolians say Etugen ekh
The shaman actually calls on their ancestor's spirits. The spirit, called ongod, can fortelll the future and pretty much do anything.
Ongod don't go off to the wilderness and go in things. They stay in the earth and help their descendants.
The suld is the "honor" of a person. If you lose your suld you get very unlucky, it's just bad.
The wind horse, called khimorri is the life of a people.
Shamans need to have a ongod to become a shaman. They can discover their ongod by visiting a good shaman. Bad shamans might call on a hungry ghost, which might bring bad luck.
I know these because I'm a Mongolian Buddhist. Still, my family worships shamanic things along with mainly Buddhist beliefs.
Thank you for this. I enjoyed it a great deal.
Tengriism used to be religion of Turks. Tengri biz menen.
Ϝ ϓ ſ Ϟ real Turkic ppl are Tengri!!! Respect our ancestor Kultegin!!!🐺 Greetings from Kazakhs!
And greetings from Turkey
Ϝ ϓ ſ Ϟ fuck off
@Accelerated shut up idiot Im from Turkey and ı have slant eye ı dont believe allah
*TENQRİ BİZ MƏNƏN - "TANRI BİZİMLƏ" 🇦🇿🤘🇦🇿🤘🇦🇿🤘🇦🇿🤘🇦🇿*
This was a great video. I hope the others will be just as interesting. If possible, would you feel comfortable explaining African religions? They also seem to not get a lot of attention. It would be nice to learn about them.
Do one on Confucianism, specifically the murky waters it inhabits between religion and philosophy.
Thanks bro i needed this for school
Thank you Hilbert! It would be great if you put link to original sources of your video!
Nice vid! Thanks a million for going to the effort! :D
This whole ancestors remains in burial mounds as long as they are remembered, until they travels to rivers, mountains, woods, so one should protect nature thing, reminds me of the Norse. The Norse believed their ancestors - and in particular the one person who cleared and built the farm - a part of their spirit remained in burial mounds. Later they take rest in the farms, and are the predecessors of the Scandinavian Nisse/Tomte spirits. On the island where I live all the farms are named after some unknown ancestors - Toregarden, Arnfinngarden, etc - and from what I'm told they used to believe that the original inhabitant of the farm might still walk the farm. Perhaps they even might be, in a similar way to how they became nisser/tomter in Scandinavia, the predecessors of the Icelandic elves, wh the authorities have to go around when building new roads.
Here in Norway there are still people who believe in these spirits, and I remember one case where the city wanted to clear an old house but the owner refused because of the spirits.
The similarities between Tengriism and Indo-European religions are remarkable. I've only read briefly about Tengriism before, so I did not know all of these interesting details that you provide. Thank you for an awesome video.
Sweet interesting concise clean fresh dig it bro.