TOYOTA 22RE ENGINE REBUILD - PART 2 OF 2 - Assembly, first start, and minor fixes 22R
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2021
- In Part 2, we build this legend of a JDM nugget from a short block into a running engine! It gets a performance camshaft and new rocker arms, plus we fix the threads for one of the head bolts that were stripped out from a previous owner's mistake. The first start wasn't silky smooth, but we get it figured out and finally hear this engine purr.
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It almost feels like I wasted a bunch of time, given what the main misfire issues was, but I'm glad that I got to go through the engine, add the cam, and show all of you what goes into building this engine.
At least you know that now the engine was put together properly. and the cams were in bad shape, eventually losing compression due to the lifters. These engines did leak oil from the timing cover and oil pan. I do have to say that you almost have to remove the engine to get the oil pan out, due to the cross members being in the way. If you want a good seal, both the timing cover and oil pan need to be removed, just like you did. Great Job!! I miss working on these 18, 20, and 22.
Well, remember you also had that aftermarket torqueless cylinder head bolt...
Catching that cam before it force fed fine steel paste into your oiling system is always worth it. So is uniform head clamping pressure. And now it looks nice ;-)
Amazon job but.... the pistón rings? Why did you forget about them ???
( Forget , forgot.. )
Im not that good at writing in english ¡!
This was an amazing series!! Thank you
Thank you for watching. I'll be doing a Toyota 1UZ-FE in the future, if youre interested.
You work smart man. Great videos 1&2… with the exception of scaring me to death when you were painting your block beside your sweet ride in the driveway ;)
🤔A 22R engine' AlSO 22 R E engine. REALLY IS ONE of THE BEST engine's Toyota HAS EVER MADE .
You forgot one: 22RTE, which was factory turbocharged and fuel injected.
my 1985 burned down a few weeks ago, excellent video. I will be tearing into it to hopefully rebuild it in and toss it in my new to me 1987 4r!
That's absolutely tragic about the '85. But congrats on a 1st gen T4R! I want one so bad.
@@tinygaragefab picked it up from a friend for 1k. Just needs a motor! Got it home today and in the shop.
Awesome videos 1 and 2. I just bought a 1985 Toyota Hilux with the 22R engine carbureted so I'm starting to learn about these engines. Everyone tell me they are indestructible. She has 230,000 mi and she runs like a champ so I'm fixing her little by little keeping her running smooth. So every little bit I learn is a plus. In case something goes wrong, I might have an idea what to look for watching all these videos. That was a incredible job.
Thank you! I have a 1987 Hilux with a 22R as well. That little truck just won't die!
Great job, this was nostalgic for me. My favorite car was an 84 cellica.
Thanks! I also have an '83 Celica GT liftback that is going to get a hopped-up (probably turbo) 22RE. I really like these old Celicas...all the '80s Toyotas for that matter, which is why I have six of them!
I have a 92 pick up with the 22re in it, I love that truck. Have been slowly trying to bring it back to its glory days.
My 1987 pickup has the 22R and I've rebuilt that engine also. But I'm going to do an engine swap on that one in the future to go a little wild. It's 22R will get a turbo and live on in the Celica.
Nice, yea mine was recently having sone issues with the starter, i guess it was starting to go bad. Took it to a local shop and they figured it out in a snap. The shop was really good, I swapped the relay, the cables and the cap and rotter myself and it was still giving me a single click. Didn’t think the starter would go like that. I had a real hard time finding anyone who wanted to work on it. Was kinda a lot to deal with. Found a local shop and the guy had it fixed in a day. Best shop I’ve gone to in years. I use the truck for work, but I’ve been wanting to take it back to have more major work done to it… time and money tho. I love the truck tho and will keep it going as long as I can it’s pushing 250k miles on it and runs good. Needs some love tho. Hope to take it In once a month to get it going it sat for a number of year.
Have to say man love your channel, loved the 22re build and break down. Fantastic build!
Nice work, my friend
great video! very thorough, but not over loaded with useless information. this has definitely helped clear up a bunch of questions I had, currently in the process of rebuilding my Toyotas engine.
Glad it was helpful! I've built a couple of these 22R engines, and they are every bit as easy as I make it look. Good luck on your build!
@@tinygaragefab thanks man!!
The way the head bolts also hold down the rocker assembly is toyota engineering at it's finest!
Indeed. This engine is a great design.
Honestly kind of a bad design but the motor is super simple so it’s not really an issue.
Great video thanks again! I remember when I was in my early teens that my uncle had a Celica like that but it was the Supra Celica. I thought it was so cool. Brings back memories! Thanks
Thanks for sharing! My best Celica memory is that a really cute girl in high school named Veronica drove a Celica coupe just like this one.
@@tinygaragefab THAT...VERONICA...VAUGHN...WAS ONE PIECE OF ACE 🤣
This is really going to help me out with my rebuild. Thank you so much for sharing some knowledge with us dummies 😂
I'm glad I could help! I certainly didn't start out knowing much, so there's hope for everyone. Lol
Great job, especially trouble shooting the missed firing issue. I do missed my 85 GT-S coupe.
Impressive troubleshooting I’d say. Nice work
Thanks for watching! This was a fun little project. I have 4-5 more engine builds on the horizon, plus the cars they will go into!
Awesome Video, I hope you take us on test drives and show us how it performs.
Thanks! I didn't really plan to do that, but I think I will have to now. Maybe I'll do it concurrent to my new exhaust install.
Excellent instructional video, both Part 1 and 2. Finally an organized video with explanations that makes sense! Thank you. Was hoping to get some feedback on a blown HG (head gasket) on a 1987 4runner 4x4 22RE EFI with 120K miles on it. Compression test psi on cylinders 1-4 was 132, 130, 128, 134. Toyota 22RE spec shows 170psi. Looks like you covered everything very well with what needs to be done. However is there anything in particular that I should focus on? Specifics? Like measurements, checking the cylinder/block mating surfaces, should the head machined, is timing chain and guides replacement a good idea with a HG replacement, Water pump while I'm in there, cylinder shim needed or not, use the 8 old head bolts or buy new ones, etc. I have mechanical experience but never changed a HG or timing chain on a 22RE. Anything else that you or anyone one else reading this can recommended for me focus on would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Hi Matt. Ret HMCS- we met at the auction pickup site in P-town. I build shifter karts and restore vintage mini bikes. Good luck with that "Bavarian Swiss cheese plate" .... I've been binging on your channel for the past couple hours. Terrific videos with great presentation and continuity. If you're on FB please send me a friend request.
This is an awesome video!
Thank you!
I wish I could get mine to start, freshly rebuilt too, it has air, gas, and spark. It just doesn't want to give'er.
This is a amazing video thanks!
Thanks for watching and commenting. Much appreciated!
Thank you
Great video and awesome CD printed tool! Funny enough I had a corroded bolt break off in my block in roughly the same spot? I forget which hole to be exact but I had to have a machinist torch the remainder out and press a threaded insert in. What is that wrench you are using with the tap? Looks handy
That was* a awesome video
Packing bread into the bearing till it pops out works real easy but nice series, thinking of rebuilding mine soon.
I love the suggestion, I've tried numerous times, and have had zero success. It's an old hot-rodder's tale, but that doesn't make it true.
Great video thx
That was a nice tool you made for the pilot bearing, but for next time, you should try using white bread to get it out. I know it sounds foolish, but since the back end of where the pilot bearing goes is both an empty hole and curved towards the bearing, all you have to do is put balls of bread into the hole and pound it in with a mallet and whatever fits in the bearing hole. I used a random bolt with some painters tape at the end to make the fit more flush. That thing will pop right out after a bit with no tool breakage ahaha. Great video though! I really appreciate the camera angles and in depth analysis of the engine. I can say I learned a lot from your video.
In my years of messing with engines, the grease trick and the white bread trick have never worked for me, not even once. Pullers are the only way to go.
1977 Hilux 20R owner. Possibly one of the best most informative videos on UA-cam...Cheers! @art_grungo
Thank you so much! I really enjoyed making this video, and I felt like I even left a lot of information out of it. I will do more engine builds and more Toyota builds in the future, so be sure to follow along.
excellent video and job well done, I am looking at a 22r for my 1964 econoline pickup..maybe well see thanks again
That would be a pretty rad swap!
Very in depth, thorough video. Great job! I was just wondering what gasket sealant you use/recommend? Thanks.
Toyota FIPG is definitely the best, but I use various Permatex products, and haven't had many issues. It's all about the prep work and how clean the surfaces are before laying it down.
Thank you i want to do this on my truck but am scare to mis place some parts lol
for the pilot bearing i use bread and an extension with some electrical tape on it. pack the bread in, smash it with the extension, pack more bread in, smash it....repeat until it builds up enough to push the bearing out. Easy clean up and no grease. its worked on all my manual vehicles.
I've tried and tried and the bread thing has never worked for me. I'm good with various pullers.
I saw a video from LC Engineering about installing the timing chain and cam gear. Put a socket and breaker bar on the crank and wiggle the crank back and forth just a degree or two, this will relieve the tension on the timing chain tensioner and make life much easier when installing the cam gear.
That sounds like a good idea. I'll give it a try on my next 22R build.
Very nice
Thank You! I've been enjoying this car all year so far. The engine work was exactly what it needed.
Great video!
I’m assuming that since you did nothing to the pistons and rings, you had done a compression check and was all good?
Yes, the bottom end checked out fine, so I didn't touch it.
What was the torque on the rear crank shaft housing for the oil seal? Please help.
Got a fresh new head for my 22r , pulled everything apart and painted same color pattern as yours, looks much cleaner, just have to connect engine and trans and drop in tomorow and hope she starts..... fingers crossed
Woohoo! Hopefully it went well for you. Gotta keep these old Toyotas on the road.
@@tinygaragefab I did get it started for a little bit after putting everything together... was a good feeling as I've never pulled engine apart. But the timing was a bit funny then it just started backfiring out the carby. Dropped in to mechanics today hopefully nothing major hope I didn't loose the timing chain mark when I put timing cover back on 🤣
Can u put link for 3d model of the straight drill jig ?
got a 1968 Toyota hilux any idea where can they put the engine together
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Thanks for the vid Mathew, watched it a few weeks back and it inspired me to get to work on my 85 celica gts coupe, had it for over 30yrs 100 K original everything ( clutch timing belt etc.) except stainless exhaust put on over 20yrs ago and new wiring harness,
I am in the middle of repairing the drivers side power mirror, seems the small round threaded rod that comes in contact with the back of the mirror to adjust it has stripped threads in both horizontal and vertical drive units. Having a heck of a time sourcing new ones.
If you are interested and able I saw that you 3D printed the drilling jig you used in the vid. I would pay you to 3D print some new nylon parts for the mirror, I figure yours will have the same set up so you could copy them. It's seems to be a metric M8-1.0 size which apparently isn't common. Local 3D print shop wants $300 before they start and $100/hour..... let me know if interested.
There is actually a file of these mirror bolts and the square nuts that I already have on my computer. I haven't printed any yet, because I put fender mirrors on my '85 GT. But I'll be using original mirrors on my '83 GT and it has the same problem. Hit me up on IG @tinygaragefab and shoot me a message.
@@tinygaragefab HI Mathew, never used IG before, I'll give it a try, in the meantime after putting my glasses on and having another look at the mirror, I don't think the threaded rod is stripped I think the problem is the rods should be fixed(fastened) to the back of the mirror and has come free. The rods have a hollow center and the rear of the mirror has a small rubber protuberance that appears as though it fits inside the threaded rod to hold onto it so when the motor is activated it acts to either push or pull the glass to adjust it. This could have been dislodged from over usage or by continually adjusting the mirror beyond the physical limits , by removing the glass from the mirror the rods are no longer attached to the rear of the mirror so now it's going to be tricky getting it back together. I think I'm going to try attaching the rods to the mirror first ( 1 horizontal 1 vertical) then feed them into the motorized adjusting units before attaching the mirror via the ball and socket retainer that holds the mirror in place. I still need to source a M8-1mm threaded rod to replace the damage one and this has been difficult. If you know of anyone who has repaired one of these I'd be interested to hear how they did it.
I would love for you to rebuild my 22re from my 94 Toyota pickup
Very informative video I’m working on a 1992 Toyota pickup with same motor it’s good to know that the celica coupe had the same engine I don’t know a whole lot about Toyota’s I’m trying to finish up my gfs truck it just don’t want to start it’s close but I’m thinking maybe the injectors are plugged in wrong 🤷🏻♂️ it’s a project I just put the motor in it it no motor in it so I went in blind I’m just trying to figure out why it won’t start new block head and new plugs I’m certain that it’s in time firing order that’s what makes me think it’s possible I got the injectors wrong
Hopefully you've figured it out by now, but it won't be injector wiring as your problem, and here's why: on the 22RE, all the injectors fired at once. It is a very simple batch fire system. I was surprised to learn it, but after getting into the wiring to fix my issue (at the end of the part 2 video) I saw that it is indeed true.
I’m converting my 22r to a 22re with microsquirt. Really looking forward to how you handle the trigger wheel.
I will probably cut and weld a trigger wheel onto the front of my power steering pulley, since those can simply be unbolted from the balancer. If you don't have power steering, I'd recommend finding this additional pulley and doing the same, as you'd have even more room because you wouldn't need a belt. You could even just cut slots into the pulley itself and make it your trigger wheel.
Hi there , I have a 88 pick up 22re , replaced an ecu , open circuit relay and fuel pump, now I have fuel pressure, spark and it fires up if I spray gas in the chamber but just for a few seconds, my problem is that none of the injections are pulsing including the cold start, any idea what to look for? I have the harness completely unwrapped, I don’t see damage anywhere
Wich you live in Phoenix Arizona. I just by 1994 toyota pickup 2x4 wit motor busted...wich you rebuild mi ..bless..fan of 22r...#1
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doing a headgasket on one, its my first time and after seeing this half the shit i did is super ghetto. im hoping it will run right. the thing im dealing with is not being able to get the cam gear on the cam
I get the gear on the cam by attaching the chain (making sure the links are lined up right) and then putting a long screwdriver or pry bar down the left side as you look at it. I gently push in on the tensioner which creates enough slack to get the gear on. I show this in the video. If not this video, it's in my Datsun L18 engine video. Same basic concept for many types of engines.
Did you degree the cam to the main crank
Nope. Not a lot of adjustment that can be done without an aftermarket cam gear on one of these. Just align the dots and send it.
When installing the head do you need new head bolts?
These are not torque to yield, so they can be reused if they don't appear damaged.
Ineed distributor and coil maginet for 22e Am in zAmbia central province pliz help me
I'm acquiring an 85 22re Toyota Pickup extended cab. What do you recommend that I do to check on what needs replaced the most as it's sat for a very long time. I already know it may need a new fuel tank or at least a new pump probably. What else do you recommend just replacing or checking?
Definitely fuel pump. Replace your battery cables, especially the ground. Other than that, try to start it and diagnose from there. On my '87 pickup (22R) it just plain ran. I replaced ignition stuff and filters and sent it!
@@tinygaragefab awesome thanks, it sat for 15 years and I dropped the tank and it looked like what I imagine The Grim Reaper's toe jam probably looks like. Or a burnt down car. You get the point. Well, anyways, I decided to order a fuel pump and pump mount, fuel filter, sending unit (for the fuel gage), and a new Spectra tank. The only OE item not discontinued that will fit is the pump mount. 85 and older Toyota Pickup parts are so hard to find. Aside from that, I will test the pump with the cold start injector line and pre-filter lines disconnected to insure fuel is making it to the injectors and then I will put in the new filter, then some new 10w40, and some Coolant after I see that it can idle smooth and hold some higher RPMs. For now ill top of the reservoir and put in some oil additive to rejuvenate the old seals and some Coolant flush before applying all new Coolant.
I bought a 94 pickup with a 22re. It had been worked on previously, and a lot of bolts were missing, new or aftermarket bolts put in (various places), is there a manual or a guide somewhere on the web that tells what size bolts go where? Timing cover, valve cover, intake and exhaust manifolds, etc?
While I don't know of any online resource, I would suggest going to a pick n pull style yard and finding something with a 22R and pulling the bolts you need while bagging and tagging them. This will get you better quality bolts than buying from a hardware store, and probably be close to free. A lot of yards don't charge for hardware, just parts.
@@tinygaragefab thanks for the tip!
can I use oem toyota black gasket maker where you applied the grey gasket maker?
Absolutely. It's actually far better. Toyota FIPG is really awesome, I just didn't have any when I did this engine.
@@tinygaragefab cool thanks, my timing guides broke and I don’t think it has been touched ever
I just did a 22r head gasket replacement, everything is timed and was put back correctly but now whenever I try driving it doesn’t want to go past 20mph and even at that it takes a min to get up to that speed. any help?
I'd start with making sure all spark plugs and wires are installed and installed correctly. If you have an infrared thermometer, aim it at each of the exhaust ports to see if any one is way colder than the others. That will indicate a dead cylinder or two. Check fuel injector plugs for connection (had an issue with mine, hilighted at the end of part two of this rebuild) If none of that is an issue, double check valve clearance on the rocker arms. Too tight will lose compression and run poorly.
I had the distruter off 1 time on a 22r and the exhaust exploded. It sounded like a shot gun.
That's wild. Timing is pretty important for sure!
When you introduce the new cam, you say it's a 'stage 2'. I've tried googling it but nothing helpful has come up. What does Stage 2 indicate?
From Summit Racing about the Melling camshafts: "Melling M-Select Class 2 camshafts are perfect for any ride. They have good idle quality, low-rpm torque, and mid-range performance. These cams will work with stock or slightly modified engines with manual or automatic transmissions. Order the model designed for fitment on your vehicle."
I do not have the specs on hand for the cam. But it is better than stock. I can feel a definite uptick in power at about 2200rpm. I bought the cam from RockAuto.
didn't replace the oil pump?
I did not. It had been replaced along with the cylinder head and timing chain guide by the previous owner. I did ensure the clearances were OK and that there was no wear on the housing or gears.
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I have one of these not very fast but a torqey tank of an engine.
Very true. I have three 22R vehicles, and none are fast, but all are awesome.
i was wondering if turbo charging the 22re toyo would net a torque gain of 275 streetable torque??
Probably not on turbo alone. That would more than double factory power, which takes a bit more work. There are 300+ hp/tq 22REs out there, but its not "easy"
It's doable for sure. I just had my 4runner on the dyno and it made 250rwhp and 290 ft lbs @4800 with 4:88's and 35 inch bfg km2's through a 5 speed w56, transfer case, and a Detroit locker. Now I have to upgrade the clutch!😂 It really is more power than I need so I'll be turning down the boost. It blows through the clutch in 3rd through 5th. It's on a microsquirt module/diypnp, but still using the factory distributor. No ignition problems with it.
The old Celicas are great. I had a white 84 gt hatch. What a great freeway commuter with a hot little 22re.
I'm planning a Speeduino and turbo setup for this Celica. And it definitely is a great highway car. I drove from Virginia to Chicago last summer and got 34mpg average on the trip there and back. Very pleased with this little car and engine.
What state are you in ?
I'm on the East Coast.
Ah I see you use a drill guide, I wish I could say the same lol I'm more of a let's just be surprised if this works or not kinda guy and eyeball it
For something like a head bolt...I definitely use guides. Most other things....not so much. I just 'send it' an awful lot!
I had a similar issue with injectors. I soldered some volvo squeeze style connectors. Problem solved.
I had new connectors, but they were for some different injectors that I wanted to upgrade to when I switch over to Microsquirt. Well, I used those injectors on the 5SFE swap into my 1989 AllTrac Camry, so now I get to decide once again on what injectors I might use. There will definitely be new connectors when I do the swap.
Why use chain instead of belt?
The 22R series only came with a chain. They generally last longer than belts.
@@tinygaragefab what a hard core engine, using chain instead of belt just for the extra reliability
Why 7 abd 11 when toyato says clearance is 8 and 12?
Because he set the lashon a cold engine. 8 and 12 is for an engine up to temp.
A big cause of cam and rocker damage on an "R" is overfueling.
Not hating, you did a good job. I just hate when people have a 22re on a stand and install the timing cover before putting the head on drives me crazy.
Why would you put the head on before the timing cover? The timing cover should be the same height as the deck and should be completely flat. What bothered me was putting the cam gear on before torquing the head.
@@MrDno420 the timing cover won’t fit right if if it’s too tall regardless of installation orientation. The reason people put the head on first while still in the truck is because they are too lazy to take the oil pan off which has a lip on it as well as the head. That’s why 99% of the time they leak after a new timing chain. But with the motor out you should be installing the timing cover after the head because the oil pan is already off and there is no need to worry about the timing cover seating properly.
I did it because I've rebuilt a lot of GM LS engines, and the oil pump alignment (crank driven) is critical on those. The 22R is similar, so I wanted to have that situation all squared away first. But I suppose it could have been done after the head went on. Either way, this particular 22RE has been dead-nuts reliable for nearly 20k miles.
@@tinygaragefab that’s the nature of the 22re glad it’s been running well, yeah it’s just something that makes getting your timing correct easier and makes releasing the tensioner simple as well as being able to veiw you didn’t accidentally skip a tooth with the chain. Either way I thought you did a great job.
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I hate the engine harness, can't even get it out without taking off the upper plenum
True, but the upper plenum comes off easily enough.
Dam I thought he was going to buy new pistons and rings ...but why blow more cash...
The rebuild didn't fix the problem, the problem had nothing to do with needing a rebuild. You should have known it was a 22r. You rebuilt the motor for nothing because it didn't need a rebuild: 22r.
Um...did you actually WATCH the videos? I love the 22R as much as anyone, but this 22R definitely needed to be pulled and gone through. Worn out cam lobes, stripped head bolt that couldn't provide proper head torque, etc. There is no way it would have kept going if I didn't do what I did.
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3d printed hole guide...... Cheater! 😂
🤔Boy I see three bad mistakes you made on your Toyota 22RE engine I really do KNOW I am a REAL ASE certified Master Auto Mechanic with OVER 60 year's of REAL experience . for one you put a helical on a cylinder block you're supposed to use ONLY a king search that was a bad mistake AlSO YOUR intake and exhaust valves are OUT of adjustment AlSO YOU
ARE using THE wrong type of timing light sound like you had that engine cross wired
My valves are adjusted perfectly in spec. And my timing light is not the best, but it works. Perhaps finish the video all the way through to see what the real cause of the poor running was. Everything was wired correctly and this engine purrs like a kitten. Got 34mpg on a road trip from VA to Chicago with no overheating and no issues whatsoever. So I'd say I did a pretty fantastic job on this top end, thank you very much.
🤔YOU JUST made a BAD mistake on your engine block YOU were supposed to use ONLY a King search. NOT a helicoil I REALLY DO KNOW I AM a REAL Machinist THAT engine will give problems NOW .THAT engine WILL overheat NOW
But...its been going for 10k+ miles with ZERO issues, so I'd have to say you might be overreacting a little bit. If cylinder head torque can be maintained, no issues will be had.
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