Seen loads of ads about this today, but this vid is BY FAR, the best explained. Top notch filming too and real world tests. Nice one Rob.. Keep up the awesome work! 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Some FAQ: Eagle Transmission rear derailleurs are designed to have replaceable and are points of frequent contact: the skid plate, the outer parallelogram link, and the cage and damper assembly if needed. Check here for compatibility: bikefinder.sram.com/universal-derailleur-hanger-bikes Can I upgrade my mountain bike to Eagle Transmission? Any frame that fulfills the “UDH Specification” featuring a hanger-less interface can be upgraded. Complete specification information can be found at universalderailleurhanger.com How will I know if my bike is UDH (Universal Derailleur Hanger) compatible? SRAM UDH Bike finder lists all UDH bikes that are compatible with Eagle Transmission. bikefinder.sram.com Derailleur hangers break or bend to protect the rear derailleur. What happens if I crash with Eagle Transmission? Bent hangers can cause several issues, from bad shifting to, with a severely bent hanger, the rear derailleur jamming into the wheels and can result in catastrophic damage. The Eagle Transmission rear derailleur is connected to the axle system and is designed to be extremely robust against side and frontal impacts so you can continue your ride after a crash. Can I use the POD controller on previous Eagle AXS drivetrains? Yes, the POD electronic controllers can be used with Eagle Transmission, as can any other two button SRAM AXS electronic controller. Eagle Transmission is also compatible with eTap AXS Wireless Blips.
Can we use the previous version Sram XX1 chain with this new XX cassette and derailleur? And handle the e-bike power flawlessly like the same equal to the new chain when making full power shifting ?
I just went on my first ride with the X0 transmission and it feels like this is the first group set that belongs on a mountain bike. This is not necessarily about it being wireless, I had and still have AXS, it’s about how robust and precise it feels. It’s like an extension of the frame rather than a flexy appendage trying to shift. To put it another way, is like the old systems were being constantly being band-aided to try to make them work for mountain bike duty while Transmission feels right at home in the roughest/ gnarliest trails.
I'm not sure what direct side impact is exactly testing for in real world trail riding scenario either. Let's see derailleur dropped on a rock with 200lbs loaded on the frame. Either $650 derailleur will bend & break and or your frame.
@derek2gloves absolutely. If you're riding on a narrow trail and you bash your derailleur into a rock at full pace there's no "revolutionary solution" will withstand that, simply if you have an hanger will broke and you'll save the derailleur, if you haven't you're dumped 600 euros into the trash bin.
Tbh I rode mtbs hard and atleast 4 days a week for roughly 3 years . And not once did the normal dérailleurs break 😮? I'm not your typical pussy mtb rider either
Too much silver on it for me 😂 I'll wait for a black version. I don't like the look of the cranks either. Hopefully RaceFace will bring out some compatible sexy carbon option like they usually do. Great vid Rob. Out of the 5 channels in notifications covering this today, chose yours to watch 🤘
So I’ve been watching the videos all day about this derailer and how tough it is, but to me, I think the shifting flawlessly comes from the cassette and the chain
Hey Rob rides emtb! Thanks for the well presented vid on that fine new transmission system! It makes me wonder if Shimano will release something similar or put their effort into an enclosed gearbox! Ride ride ride!
@@RobRidesEMTB Did you ever see the Chinese clone Seth (Berm peak) got hold of that vanished after he made a video on them? Holding up very well. Makes me wonder if the Chinese have anything similar thats redesigned enough to not just be scooped up as a clone item.
Hard to imagine on any derailleur system that you can change under load without crunching. I imagine this system is VERY expensive! And yes just heard you - £1800! So good as it is, I will continue to ease off and/or anticipate gear changes
Looks fantastic. Too pricey for me to swap out my older AXS system, but I am sure it will be standard on upcoming high end bikes. I am most excited about the increased durability.
For sure - its the thing thats been lacking, longevity, especially on ebikes! Good to see brands are focussing on this, not just super light stuff, but strong too.
Great video! I noticed the slam test was on a hard tail with no linkages etc..if a big hit was to happen I’d rather bend my hanger than rear triangle that’s all
This system looks really well thought-out and engineered. I'm excited to get it on our bikes and test it out. Good video Rob. Best insight into this system I have seen.
Awesome overview and all. I'm anticipating my XO kit to arrive within the first week of June. Rob, off topic, I see you have a RS SD coil on your Levo. Mind if I ask what spring rate are you running and what is your rider weight? Trying to zero in on my spring rate :)
Great video with excellent detail. From your links I see my main bikes are not compatible. I have axs on my orbea rise and happy with aftermarket paddles, pity this won't fit 😢
Great video thanks, definitely on my wish list as I absolutely love the GX AXS. Rob, is there a reason you've removed the chain guide on your Levo there?
@@RobRidesEMTB thank you for reply Rob. Unfortunately SRAM confirmed that direct mount chainring (for Brose) is not compatible and I should use 104BCD chainring, mounting to existing spider.
Well, that's interesting, what's the correct answer in the end? I imagine, that's why the chainguide does not fit on this specific chain ring. The chain line must be to close to the rear frame I suppose!?
Great it is designed for the extra demands of an e-bike. When I have bent or broken the hanger or derailleur I can pedal home as a single speed. I'll have to check this out with a direct mount derailleur. Thank you for the info.
Found this very informative with lots of details. This gear looks awesome but I can imagine how costly it will get. Now eBikes will be like buying a SuperBike motorcycle of 1000cc! Was good that comment about 500-600 watts will need to see proof 😜 What now will be important is if your SRAM holds a hit but your lovely frame breaks = cannot ride 😢
I wonder if the 2024 models will offer this drivetrain now?? I’ve been looking at new Ebikes this week and most have the old eagle gen 1 stuff on!! I’d be pretty annoyed if I’d spent thousands on a bike with old gen stuff on.. I agree brilliant vid rob as always really well filmed and detailed as always 👍🏻👍🏻
Just wonder? i broke two rear deraliers by getting a'thick branch/twig in the wheel between the chain that broke the deralier and the chain and the der-hanger i wonder how expensive that would be on this Bike 😱
Rob- what about a conversion on a Levo? Do you need a new crank on a 2022? Just a rear derailleur, chain, cassette, using your existing cranks and chain ring?
Rob, great review as always 👌Just a thought....for any eMTB components; what British riders are really interested in knowing is the performance of the part when covered in British mud/clagg 😊A clean SRAM test center...or dry ride in the Surrey Hills ... is all very well 😊 How about 1000hrs in the Welsh hills in driving rain and Bridle track mud in Dec/Jan? If any component survives a Welsh winter season then it will sell itself! 👍👍 Is it always just dry down there in the Surrey Hills? 😂😂
Does this new AXS derailleur mounts to any frame, independently of the derailleur hanger the frame was designed to, or it’s only possible to mount it to frames that were conceived for UHD ?
Thank you for this sponsored SRAM promotional video 👍 the reason the SRAM junk is so amazing to you is because the cockpit looks cleaner, that's worth €2600 to you. Oh God throw brains from the sky
How does it compare to hyperglide+ with shimano? I remember using di2 and it was horrible. Sram eagle xx1 i tore through it in like 80miles…drivetrain was trashed. But my XTR 12 speed has lasted hundreds of miles. I’ve also never used AXS. Just afraid to make jump where shimano has been working so well for me.
I know it’s an efficiency and weight thing. And probably cost and a litle bit of “planned obsolescence”. But I’m hoping we will soon move past derailleur and cassette. Lighter and more robust hub gears? Could Kindernay make a titanium version of the Vii? Or even better a motor and gearbox combination (or even digital drive system with no changing gears?)
I've got a couple of gen-1 AXS systems and parallelogram wear has been terrible (scrap within a year), so for that reason alone I will be waiting at least two years to see if the new stuff is any better. SRAM were good with the warranty to be fair, but warranties run out, and all this stuff is WAY too expensive to have to replace every two years. Has this new system got replaceable pivot bushes? Who's going to buy it when most shops aren't going to stock the ZERO-compatabilty consumables because it's all so crazy expensive as a system? Mind you, incompatibility claims are usually complete BS to try and get you to part with more money.
Amazing system. Too bad only the chain and controller are the only components backwards compatible with existing AXS. Owners of bike frames without UDH can only salivate. The alloy cranks look fire!
I think they will come out with a new shifter that will be wrapped around the bars a bit like some of the ebike remotes. Do you need their crank arm? If so, why? I get the cassette and front chainring controls and such.
Oh boy. I better start saving bit more for this… question. Does it also work with the mastermind like with the older axs models? What size front chainring do you have on your levo? I dont see the chainguide mounted…
Cheers for the share dude, very interesting. does it just have a integrated mech hanger with an old school after market alloy breakaway bolt? i can see it will be strong and stiffer as it removes a fixing.
Did you see the clips of it smashing into the test plate rig, and SRAM team standing on it? Its tough, you'd need a seriosly catastropic impact to damage the entire swing arm.
@@RobRidesEMTB that is nothing compared to a 90kg rider going down the mountain at 15 mph and hitting a rock on the side of the trail. never hit a "plate" in the real world.
@@RobRidesEMTB Yeah thats my point, at the point of failure its no longer the £10 alloy hanger that breaks its the very expensive swing arm or potentially even more expensive derailleur. Don't get me wrong its all great that every thing is stronger but I'm wondering what's now the weak point of the system. It's like saying I've upgraded my plastic bumpers to solid steel ones, and then having a little bump and your cars written off because the chassis took the shunt and not the cheap bumper which is part of the reason it was originally designed like that. I'd love to see failures of this system to know the answer.
True. Nothing like real world testing and lab testing. I’d say that now it’s more inboard there’s less chance of it hitting a rock. There’s a plastic casing on the side that I’d assume would be the first to give in.
Yes, it's better...we get that...but try to step away from your position as a SRAM fanboy/ambassador and tell us...truthfully...how much better it is over the existing AXS? Is it a 10% better experience? 50%? 100%? Is the new shifter controller backward compatible (yes, I know you can't mix and match with the new derailleur, but how about those of us who just want a better feeling shifter with our existing AXS)?
@@Jkauppa more efficient? i'm not aware of this and a simple search gives me some cooky websites. can you please point me to a good introduction? (or a drawing of what you mean exactly, many different arrangements come up with a search)
Seriously impressive stuff from SRAM eh? Do you know, is the new 'pod' style button shifter compatible with the previous AXS derailleur, so you can just upgrade for a better feel to the shifter?
Hi Rob, do you know, if the Levo SL is compatible for that? The compatible list on the Sram Website lists only the Levo and the Kenevo SL 2022 (?) Thanks and best regards
Seen loads of ads about this today, but this vid is BY FAR, the best explained. Top notch filming too and real world tests. Nice one Rob.. Keep up the awesome work! 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Alex!
Yes I agree 💯👏🏻
Some FAQ: Eagle Transmission rear derailleurs are designed to have replaceable and are points of frequent contact: the skid plate, the outer parallelogram link, and the cage and damper assembly if needed.
Check here for compatibility: bikefinder.sram.com/universal-derailleur-hanger-bikes
Can I upgrade my mountain bike to Eagle Transmission?
Any frame that fulfills the “UDH Specification” featuring a hanger-less interface can be upgraded. Complete specification information can be found at universalderailleurhanger.com
How will I know if my bike is UDH (Universal Derailleur Hanger) compatible?
SRAM UDH Bike finder lists all UDH bikes that are compatible with Eagle Transmission. bikefinder.sram.com
Derailleur hangers break or bend to protect the rear derailleur. What happens if I crash with Eagle Transmission?
Bent hangers can cause several issues, from bad shifting to, with a severely bent hanger, the rear derailleur jamming into the wheels and can result in catastrophic damage. The Eagle Transmission rear derailleur is connected to the axle system and is designed to be extremely robust against side and frontal impacts so you can continue your ride after a crash.
Can I use the POD controller on previous Eagle AXS drivetrains?
Yes, the POD electronic controllers can be used with Eagle Transmission, as can any other two button SRAM AXS electronic controller. Eagle Transmission is also compatible with eTap AXS Wireless Blips.
Can we use the previous version Sram XX1 chain with this new XX cassette and derailleur? And handle the e-bike power flawlessly like the same equal to the new chain when making full power shifting ?
Which kit works with the Turbo Levo??
I just went on my first ride with the X0 transmission and it feels like this is the first group set that belongs on a mountain bike. This is not necessarily about it being wireless, I had and still have AXS, it’s about how robust and precise it feels. It’s like an extension of the frame rather than a flexy appendage trying to shift. To put it another way, is like the old systems were being constantly being band-aided to try to make them work for mountain bike duty while Transmission feels right at home in the roughest/ gnarliest trails.
All similar channels are suddenly covering this product but this is the best commentary I've seen.
Love the way you used walk mode to take sick shots of the cranks spinning by themselves
I'm very impressed! Sram is defiantly blazing new MTB engineering trails.
Great video and fun to watch. Rob, thanks for producing and sharing.
Cheers, good to see all this new tech!
Really nice to see bike technology that's an actual, tangible, significant improvement.
I love how they use the lightest bike possible for the impact test
Rumour has it that they were all getting so hench lifting a heavy ebike on that test that they had to put on something lighter to lift😉
I'm not sure what direct side impact is exactly testing for in real world trail riding scenario either. Let's see derailleur dropped on a rock with 200lbs loaded on the frame. Either $650 derailleur will bend & break and or your frame.
@derek2gloves absolutely. If you're riding on a narrow trail and you bash your derailleur into a rock at full pace there's no "revolutionary solution" will withstand that, simply if you have an hanger will broke and you'll save the derailleur, if you haven't you're dumped 600 euros into the trash bin.
Tbh I rode mtbs hard and atleast 4 days a week for roughly 3 years .
And not once did the normal dérailleurs break 😮?
I'm not your typical pussy mtb rider either
Try that exact same test with any..... ANY derailleur of your choice on the same bike and get back to us. We'll be waiting.
Too much silver on it for me 😂 I'll wait for a black version. I don't like the look of the cranks either. Hopefully RaceFace will bring out some compatible sexy carbon option like they usually do. Great vid Rob. Out of the 5 channels in notifications covering this today, chose yours to watch 🤘
I have the XO model and it's mostly all black with very little grey and no silver. Chain is also black
So I’ve been watching the videos all day about this derailer and how tough it is, but to me, I think the shifting flawlessly comes from the cassette and the chain
Looks great. Might consider in a couple of years. Always good to see bike tech progressing.
Definitely and hopefully a cassette more in the GX price range.
Hey Rob rides emtb! Thanks for the well presented vid on that fine new transmission system! It makes me wonder if Shimano will release something similar or put their effort into an enclosed gearbox! Ride ride ride!
Shimano have some innovative stuff too, like auto shift and free shift on the new EP801 - new video on that out soon!!
@@RobRidesEMTB Did you ever see the Chinese clone Seth (Berm peak) got hold of that vanished after he made a video on them?
Holding up very well. Makes me wonder if the Chinese have anything similar thats redesigned enough to not just be scooped up as a clone item.
So happy with the 600usd cassette!!! GREAT!
Can't wait!!!
Over $2K here in the US. Brilliant technology, if they could only make it affordable.
Went through 3 derailleurs last year so definitely looking for improvements like this.
How?
Still better than 3 frames
You should've gone to specsavers 👓
Does this mean the weak point will be chainstay or seat stay rather than a cheap mech hanger?
This is the best video out about the new system I've seen so far. Does the new shifter work with older AXS systems?
Thanks! Yes, new shifter works on older AXS.
Awesome! Thanks for the update!
This will be on my Rail as soon as I can find the EMTB group set.
Hard to imagine on any derailleur system that you can change under load without crunching. I imagine this system is VERY expensive! And yes just heard you - £1800! So good as it is, I will continue to ease off and/or anticipate gear changes
Looks fantastic. Too pricey for me to swap out my older AXS system, but I am sure it will be standard on upcoming high end bikes. I am most excited about the increased durability.
For sure - its the thing thats been lacking, longevity, especially on ebikes! Good to see brands are focussing on this, not just super light stuff, but strong too.
@@RobRidesEMTB For £1800 I hope we get both! :D
Great video Rob!
Very impressive! Damn I want this new system now.
Does the mech brake before the frame? I'd hate to have an indestructible derailleur that actually cracks a rear triangle on a big impact.
Very nice kit, great vid Rob👍🏻
Thanks 👍
I love the look of the carbon frame too.
how about having to take your rear wheel off to fix a flat? Does the derailer come off? and micro adjustments on the trail?
nice to be a youtube sensation, must be heaps of free stuff :)
Great video!
I noticed the slam test was on a hard tail with no linkages etc..if a big hit was to happen I’d rather bend my hanger than rear triangle that’s all
pleased to see it's retro-fittable (having just picked up a 2022 Levo)
22 levo is udh
The Price kills my enthusiasm a bit. 😅
Idc about the product but this video was insanely well done.
Great video, looks like a fantastic bit of kit. Have SRAM kept the same battery fitting or is it new?
Same battery! Same fit 👍👍
This system looks really well thought-out and engineered. I'm excited to get it on our bikes and test it out. Good video Rob. Best insight into this system I have seen.
Hi Phil, cheers!
Great video Rob! This looks like a great upgrade from AXS for the Levo. I was always worried the AXS was going to explode on an under load mis-shift.
What size chainring on that levo? Do I need a ebike specific cranks for my 22 levo? Only the xx or x0 kits with 32t and 170mm available in my area.
Awesome overview and all. I'm anticipating my XO kit to arrive within the first week of June. Rob, off topic, I see you have a RS SD coil on your Levo. Mind if I ask what spring rate are you running and what is your rider weight? Trying to zero in on my spring rate :)
How much further has it come from the GX Axs you were very happy with that not so long ago
awsome review
is it shimano ep8 compatible?
Great video with excellent detail. From your links I see my main bikes are not compatible. I have axs on my orbea rise and happy with aftermarket paddles, pity this won't fit 😢
Oh, I can't wait to replace a €500 derailleur or a frame instead of €20 hanger! And the proprietary chains and the cassettes. Where do I sign?
Brose (Not compatible with Specialized Levo Gen3) ????
Hi Rob great video as always👍. May I ask what shoes you are wearing? Is it a new colored crankbrothers stamp flat?
Hi, thanks! I was wearing Stamp Speed Lace in Purple / Gum AND a pair of Stamp Street in Sage / Gum colour. Great shoes!
Stuff that i really like to see❤
Great video thanks, definitely on my wish list as I absolutely love the GX AXS. Rob, is there a reason you've removed the chain guide on your Levo there?
Yes, the chainring he is uses runs 2mm wider than stock. Guess the reason is availability.
@@professor-habanero thanks dude
Hi, how did you mount whole set to your Turbo Levo gen 3? SRAM says that it’s not compatible with Turbo Levo gen 3.
That’s a mistake. It is compatible.
@@RobRidesEMTB thank you for reply Rob. Unfortunately SRAM confirmed that direct mount chainring (for Brose) is not compatible and I should use 104BCD chainring, mounting to existing spider.
Well, that's interesting, what's the correct answer in the end? I imagine, that's why the chainguide does not fit on this specific chain ring. The chain line must be to close to the rear frame I suppose!?
@@gregorystammbuck506 I put 104BCD chainring on the original spider as recommended by SRAM. Will keep direct mount chainring as a spare.
Great it is designed for the extra demands of an e-bike. When I have bent or broken the hanger or derailleur I can pedal home as a single speed. I'll have to check this out with a direct mount derailleur. Thank you for the info.
Found this very informative with lots of details. This gear looks awesome but I can imagine how costly it will get. Now eBikes will be like buying a SuperBike motorcycle of 1000cc! Was good that comment about 500-600 watts will need to see proof 😜 What now will be important is if your SRAM holds a hit but your lovely frame breaks = cannot ride 😢
Is the T type chain compatible with the previous GX cassette?
I wonder if the 2024 models will offer this drivetrain now?? I’ve been looking at new Ebikes this week and most have the old eagle gen 1 stuff on!! I’d be pretty annoyed if I’d spent thousands on a bike with old gen stuff on.. I agree brilliant vid rob as always really well filmed and detailed as always 👍🏻👍🏻
What is the cost of a new chain and will two new cassettes? When they need to be replaced. And how much longer will they last over conventional?
Great vid👌 is it compatible with the 21 & 22 Orbea Wild FS?
Will it fit any ebike frame, how about the stylis Rob?
QUESTION: Have you put the Sram transmission on your Voima yet? If so, which setup key did you use? Thanks for the great videos Rob!
Great video rob 👏👏 very expensive kit but looks great
What do you think a bike shop would change to fit it ? 👍
Can you compare a XX1 cassette and chain on a different episode? What are the detailed differences we can see on trail.
Just wonder? i broke two rear deraliers by getting a'thick branch/twig in the wheel between the chain that broke the deralier and the chain and the der-hanger i wonder how expensive that would be on this Bike 😱
Rob- what about a conversion on a Levo? Do you need a new crank on a 2022? Just a rear derailleur, chain, cassette, using your existing cranks and chain ring?
At of a price of a bike for a group set it’s insane
Rob, would you be able to explain how to make this fit on Shimano EP8 motors please? SRAM only seems to have groupsets for Bosch and Brose? Thanks
thanks, Rob, I always enjoy your videos! pls tell us what freehub body is compatible with these new amazing cassettes?
SRAM XD 👍
Does the kit include the pod shifters ?
Yes, if you get the ebike kits. Here’s the code for Bosch: 00.7918.280.001
Rob, great review as always 👌Just a thought....for any eMTB components; what British riders are really interested in knowing is the performance of the part when covered in British mud/clagg 😊A clean SRAM test center...or dry ride in the Surrey Hills ... is all very well 😊 How about 1000hrs in the Welsh hills in driving rain and Bridle track mud in Dec/Jan? If any component survives a Welsh winter season then it will sell itself! 👍👍 Is it always just dry down there in the Surrey Hills? 😂😂
I rode it for 5 months in the winter including some of the worst wet conditions - all good so far
Hey does the cranks works on ep8 motors?
Is the new remote compatible with the old AXS mech?
Yes.
Were you also running the new control pod for the dropper post? That doesn't look like the usual Rock Shox controller on the left side of the bars?
Yes. New pod also works on current AXS reverb dropper
A gear hanger was introduced to protect the bike frame from damage, what happens here in the event of impack or chain jammimg.
It will be expensive…
Wow! That’s amazing tech. I wonder what Shimano is going to do now. 🤔
Does this new AXS derailleur mounts to any frame, independently of the derailleur hanger the frame was designed to, or it’s only possible to mount it to frames that were conceived for UHD ?
Correct - only frames that are UDH frames. If you run UDH now you can get this.
Thanks,@@RobRidesEMTB!
What abouth the clutch.....is it up to par with shimano?
I see you have this on a levo pro.
Is it compatible with a 22 levo Pro?
Yes, good to go on all Gen3 levo!
@@RobRidesEMTB thanks, thought you might have a 23.
I wonder if SRAM will offer a GripShift style bar control.
So how to get this on the turbo levo? Which components fit/work?
You just purchase the Brose kit - with X0 (160mm alloy crank arms and direct mount chain ring) OR XX with 165mm carbon crank arms.
@@RobRidesEMTB how can I upgrade my Fuel EXe 9.7? It has M7100 i think
Thank you for this sponsored SRAM promotional video 👍 the reason the SRAM junk is so amazing to you is because the cockpit looks cleaner, that's worth €2600 to you. Oh God throw brains from the sky
Nice one
How does it compare to hyperglide+ with shimano? I remember using di2 and it was horrible. Sram eagle xx1 i tore through it in like 80miles…drivetrain was trashed. But my XTR 12 speed has lasted hundreds of miles. I’ve also never used AXS. Just afraid to make jump where shimano has been working so well for me.
How does the jocky wheel work?
That's the only question I have 😅
I know it’s an efficiency and weight thing. And probably cost and a litle bit of “planned obsolescence”.
But I’m hoping we will soon move past derailleur and cassette.
Lighter and more robust hub gears? Could Kindernay make a titanium version of the Vii?
Or even better a motor and gearbox combination (or even digital drive system with no changing gears?)
I've got a couple of gen-1 AXS systems and parallelogram wear has been terrible (scrap within a year), so for that reason alone I will be waiting at least two years to see if the new stuff is any better. SRAM were good with the warranty to be fair, but warranties run out, and all this stuff is WAY too expensive to have to replace every two years. Has this new system got replaceable pivot bushes?
Who's going to buy it when most shops aren't going to stock the ZERO-compatabilty consumables because it's all so crazy expensive as a system?
Mind you, incompatibility claims are usually complete BS to try and get you to part with more money.
Amazing system. Too bad only the chain and controller are the only components backwards compatible with existing AXS. Owners of bike frames without UDH can only salivate. The alloy cranks look fire!
I think they will come out with a new shifter that will be wrapped around the bars a bit like some of the ebike remotes. Do you need their crank arm? If so, why? I get the cassette and front chainring controls and such.
Is it smaller than Eagle derailleurs ? more like Shimano SLX/XT (m7000/8000) ?
or still pertruding 2-3cm outside the frame ?
Why do you have two axs shifters on your bike? Does it work instead of a dropper post controller?
Yes. New pod works for the AXS reverb dropper also.
@@RobRidesEMTB Thanks for the response. Its great they thought about that.
Lovely. Costs is the same as a full bike.
Oh boy. I better start saving bit more for this… question. Does it also work with the mastermind like with the older axs models? What size front chainring do you have on your levo? I dont see the chainguide mounted…
yeah it looked big , i tried a 36 on my Kenevo, it was ok but went back to the 32, needed the motor to last longer
Cheers for the share dude, very interesting. does it just have a integrated mech hanger with an old school after market alloy breakaway bolt? i can see it will be strong and stiffer as it removes a fixing.
Would it be much better if those component like dropper shifter and shock are connected to ebike batt
Is this only offered in trigger shift? Any love for us grip shifters?
Hmm so when it does take a beating, does that knacker the whole swing arm?..
Instead of just the hanger.
Did you see the clips of it smashing into the test plate rig, and SRAM team standing on it? Its tough, you'd need a seriosly catastropic impact to damage the entire swing arm.
@@RobRidesEMTB that is nothing compared to a 90kg rider going down the mountain at 15 mph and hitting a rock on the side of the trail. never hit a "plate" in the real world.
@@RobRidesEMTB Yeah thats my point, at the point of failure its no longer the £10 alloy hanger that breaks its the very expensive swing arm or potentially even more expensive derailleur.
Don't get me wrong its all great that every thing is stronger but I'm wondering what's now the weak point of the system.
It's like saying I've upgraded my plastic bumpers to solid steel ones, and then having a little bump and your cars written off because the chassis took the shunt and not the cheap bumper which is part of the reason it was originally designed like that.
I'd love to see failures of this system to know the answer.
Maybe part of the derailleur is designed to break first and be cheaply replaced?
True. Nothing like real world testing and lab testing. I’d say that now it’s more inboard there’s less chance of it hitting a rock. There’s a plastic casing on the side that I’d assume would be the first to give in.
So just out of curiosity as of now my mtb is 7yrs old.
Will this new technology fit to my bike or will I have to contend with the outdated axs🇦🇺😎
The derailleur wheels has ceramic bearings or not??
Just in time for a drivetrain refresh this summer👌
Yes, it's better...we get that...but try to step away from your position as a SRAM fanboy/ambassador and tell us...truthfully...how much better it is over the existing AXS? Is it a 10% better experience? 50%? 100%? Is the new shifter controller backward compatible (yes, I know you can't mix and match with the new derailleur, but how about those of us who just want a better feeling shifter with our existing AXS)?
So does that mean it will fit my Scott Genius 960 2020 year?
try dual side magnetic cvt instead, 90 degrees axle drive
yo! you'd like Tom Stanton's last video.
@@markifi yep saw that, both side magnet gears cvt is better than induction magnet drive, but nice
@@Jkauppa more efficient? i'm not aware of this and a simple search gives me some cooky websites. can you please point me to a good introduction? (or a drawing of what you mean exactly, many different arrangements come up with a search)
@@markifi better overall, permanent magnet gears, google it
@@markifi well you can start by going to my videos on the topic
Great vid Rob. So I ride an Ebike with a rear hub and a Shimano drive train. I think it’s free wheel. Can I convert it to Sram?
Seriously impressive stuff from SRAM eh? Do you know, is the new 'pod' style button shifter compatible with the previous AXS derailleur, so you can just upgrade for a better feel to the shifter?
Yes, new pod works with current AXS 👍
why is that unit sssooo big, must be nicer way to hang that of the bars
Will it fit on 2019 levo?
My only problem with my gx is the clutch is not strong enough . But 1800 is way way out my league . 😢
Hi Rob, do you know, if the Levo SL is compatible for that? The compatible list on the Sram Website lists only the Levo and the Kenevo SL 2022 (?) Thanks and best regards
I have talked with the SRAM Support. No way to install the new Eagle Transmission on a Levo SL :(