Are ALL Bronze Genjis Like this? | Spectating Bronze
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Hey emongg, the reason no one tries to focus the genji in low metal ranks is because its rarely worth it. Genjis high mobility makes him a nightmare to hit in low ranks, so focusing on another target thats easier to hit is usually "more beneficial".
In low elo its all about stat farming, so focusing a target that doesnt yield you high damage is pointless.
I'd like to add the "if i can't see them they can't see me" otherwise known as the ostrich tactic some players in lower ranks tend to have where they don't bother to turn their screens further than 45 degrees away from the enemy tank/payload
To add, people also have bad aim in bronze. For person with bad aim killing genji is near impossible. Genji can dash, reflect, climb and has a small hitbox. There is no point wasting time in focusing a hero you can't kill. So I agree in that sense but obviously these people need more fundamental skills to be able to accomplish this. Look at this player's widow, he doesn't land a single elim or headshot his torb wasn't much better.
Likely in bronze games are much harder carried by tanks with good teamfight sense than dps that have 10% accuracy.
and I hate it. stat farming makes me cry. Every time something bad happens, it's what people always bring up and it's obnoxious.
@@lazycouch1Isee a Genji as support I go Moira or Brig, cause I know otherwise I will die, since my aim sucks and nobody is gonna be able to help me, since their aim is not much better :'D Genji is a true horror in low elos.
@@lazycouch1tf type of bronze games yall in? Everyone has perfect aim in my bronze especially the soldier/ashe/bastions
big props to this mercy for identifying who they need to focus resources on to get the most value. their support really enabled the genji to be as effective as they were. i always say there is a thin line between good aggressive plays and plain old feeding and sometimes a support's decision to back their teammates up is what makes it closer to aggression lol
i can smell that someone will say "oh they were just duoing, the mercy isn't actually playing well for the sake of playing well" and to that i am compelled to say that you sound like a silly goose
I can confirm while they were duoing (he said it was a 4 stack) that's not why he got pocketed. When I'm stacking with friends it's pretty much the norm I'm the pocketed person as opposed to the bastion one trick because I'm the dude who is trying to fight as many people as I can.
It's both trying to play the game properly and trying to get the biggest healing number so focus on the person taking the most damage.
hi! i was the mercy in this game and tysm
and to that, I thank you.
@@ok-nk7qq You did great! :)
That's what I love about playing Mercy. Sometimes is feels like I give my dps superpowers. I always try to support the aggressive plays, but there is a limit lol.
"i respect that play" emongg comment on sparing Mercy 4:25. My guy, I respect you for respecting that play :)
I respect you for respecting Emongg's respect of that Genji respecting the Mercy.
@@hatchling00he does need more Mercies for his pocket medic harem.
I actually did that too one time, i dunno it just feels cruel to not let her live
@@FallenEvaneskyro07 I play Mercy and I think I've figured out why it feels wrong - typically, a good Mercy isn't doing much to you directly. they're just helping their team, Mercy is a doctor, not a fighter, etc. so it feels wrong to kill someone who's not doing much, if anything, to you directly lol
The face after his first blade is priceless😂
The annoying thing when playing in metal ranks is no one ever pings. They will yell at you to peal and help them but won't talk until they're already dead, if they talk at all. Then I'm left as a tank, not knowing what my team is doing until I see the kill feed. Also, no one knows you can ping after you die, so i can know immediately where the threat is.
i ping 24/7 and no one turns around. ill ping a hero on 5 hp and theyll still shoot the full health tank.
@@asmfunteam7130100% this. Low elo players play like a horse, never looking behind em
My best advice is to make friends and if you feel comfortable, use mics, at least for call-outs. When I’m tank I tell my friends that I want to know everything that’s going on behind me. If there’s a reaper on my supports, I wanna know. If there’s a sombra spawn camping my dps, I wanna know. Let your team know they can rely on you for help and they will
“Tank diff”
peal
Big throw from that Orisa.
Fr she was holding that ult for Overwatch 3
Genji not only dominates lower ranks because of no one targetting him. it's also that most people have shit aim, and Genji jumps, double jumps, deflects, wall jumps, dashes, you get the idea, it's very hard to hit him in comparison to a Pharah for example.
I'd rather fight a good genji than a trash pharah. I feel like even average pharahs get way too much value in low elo when I fight genjis it's not a big deal.
The only time I got washed by a genji, I could tell that this genji was smurfing and alot better than everyone else. Even dogshit pharahs get too much free value
That Ana... I feel her pain. Genji is one of those heroes no one knows how to deal with. Pharah, Sombra are some other good examples. I usually go Moira and perma-annoy the Genji until they switch, but I hate giving up Ana's utility. Anyway, as a Genji otp, this person could definitely climb. Cass isn't really their hero
Hit ur sleepdarts or anti the ground while genji starts losing hp he will fuck off
If it’s bronze go Moira and protect your ana I promise you you’ll see less genji
When a dps is harassing supports it’s the dps’ job to take the pressure. Their dps could have swapped and easily protected them with a beam character 🤷🏻♀️
@@Prismode İ get what you mean but its hard if you get people in your games that play their 2 comfort heroes which they are good with but get countered out from the enemy team its most likely you won't get help even if you ping, just try to survive as supp and ping theres really nothing more you can do if the team can't adapt
@@Assassin_Proof making friends is one of the best things you can do in the game. My friends and I always counter-swap for each other. It’s one thing if someone is popping off regardless of counters but if you keep getting rolled it’s worth counter-picking
The secret of climbing in Overwatch: It's not about winning the 9 fights that are already in your favor. It's about ensuring the enemy doesn't win the 10th fight that is neutral. You can be a literal stat god for 90% of a match - but if you fail to shut down the enemy during the last 10%, you still lose the game. Low stats but 10/10 won fights is a billion times better than crazy stats and 9/10 won fights.
To this player, yes, you deserve high Bronze. It's a phenomenon in most ranks that players have really good matches, hard carry, and think "I deserve at least Gold/Plat/Diamond/etc." What they don't take into account is that they're pogging against Bronze players, with Bronze positioning, awareness, evasive movement, cooldown management, etc. They're making horrifying mistakes that get punished in the next tier up, which keeps them from climbing. First off, there are issues with your aim. On Cass and Widow especially, we see several times where you run out of space to move your mouse and need to lift it up to complete a 180. You either need to get yourself more room to move your mouse, or get a DPI switch set up so you can do those quick turns and better track up close targets that otherwise run you out of mouse space. Your aim as mid and long ranged characters is also very inconsistent, sometimes you hit, sometimes you'll whiff all six shots. Again, lower sensitivity with more room to move your mouse will do wonders. Your aim is better as Genji in Genji distance, but still, could use work.
Your bigger problem is strategy: you throw all of your cooldowns to get in, then you're just a guy with shurikens standing in front of the enemy team. Dash and Deflect are precision strategic tools, and you need to save one of them in order to get you out to safety. In this match, you literally never do that. You either Dash in, then Deflect because you're anticipating damage, or you Deflect at them, then Dash when Deflect doesn't kill them. Sometimes that works out ok, you and the team get them low enough for Dash to kill then you get the reset and Dash out, other times you're just counting on your team to heal you or the enemy team to kindly miss enough shots for you to survive. Ideally, unless you see something with 50HP or less, you save your Dash to disengage. Dash is a get out of jail free card. So long as you have it, you can be extremely aggressive and survive. But you don't want to use your get out of jail free card to get into jail. Ideally, you don't engage with Deflect either: you use the map. Numbani (and all Overwatch maps) is riddled with flank routes, the buildings you can go through to try and get behind the enemy position. You don't need to commit any cooldowns as Genji to get into their backline, you just use your wall climb and the map to wiggle around behind them. Then you have Deflect to win the duel and Dash to get you out after you nab a pick (or force them to fall back to peel while drawing out cooldowns).
Speaking of, Deflect: you keep trying to anticipate things, which is bad. Sometimes you read correctly and bounce the cooldown. Sometimes the enemy team reads you, waits for you to deflect, then punishes you. Or just uses cooldowns that can bypass Deflect, like Ana's Nade and Ashe's Dynamite. It's better to look for things that you can react to. Projectiles with travel time like Fire Strike and Biotic Grenade are things that you can see coming and guarantee you bounce back. You can also look to tells: Ana visible reaches for her Sleep Dart gun before it comes out. You can notice her reaching and react in time to sleep her with it if she tries to use it while you have Deflect. But if you blow Deflect because you think she's going to Sleep, then you're counting on her to miss the sleep, otherwise you are as good as dead. You need to think about it like a chess match: both you and your opponent have certain moves available based on your cooldowns. You need to think about what cooldowns you can counter, which ones can counter you, and how much resource (health, cooldowns, positioning*) you need to leave yourself in order to get out alive if you can't confirm the kill. Learn your matchups, learn how to force errors and when you can safely take the win.
So, the wrap up: A. is for Aim. Work on it. It's currently good enough on Genji to escape Bronze with better play, but it's booty for mid ranged heroes, and if you don't fix it then eventually it'll be the limiting reagent that gets you hardstuck in Silver or Gold. B. Learn the maps, and when you can use flank routes to access the enemy backline without committing cooldowns. C. Save your Dash to get out, unless you can guarantee the Dash reset. Dash is your escape tool! If you die in the middle of the enemy team without your Dash available, then you know why you died. It's not because Mercy didn't heal you either. D. Use your Deflect to react, not to anticipate. What you're doing works against Bronzes, but better players will realize they can just stare at you for a second and you'll Deflect nothing. E. Work on your Dragonblades! I know I didn't talk about this, I'm not enough of a Genji player to help you refine, but I can see there's a lot more you can do to make your blades more deadly. I hope you see this, and that some of it helps!
I was not expecting to see an entire essay when I clicked on this comment. Mad respect. Hope the Genji finds this comment, it's got some good tips 👍
tysm bro now im silver 5. Thanks for all the advices ill try to apply them to my gameplay. but the thing is my aim depends on how good im feeling that day. one day ill do one shot combo without realising and one day ill miss every shuriken. consistensy comes with practise so ill work on my aim and game sense more.
i like this genji more than 90% of the genjis ive played with just because they actually stay in healable range
Man there were so many times he could have rolled for the 50% damage mitigation in just a 2 second round lmao.
with a litttle faster reaction and a lot more gamesense this genji could go gold maybe, honestly looks ok
too bad game sense is the one thing that doesn't naturally come the more you play. It has to be studied or taught.
@@Real_MisterSir yeah you are right, İ just assumed anyone would be an analyzing type of gamer like İ do but İ have seen enough cases of people that are insane with their aim but lack the ability to play as a team or have good sense of game
#15: Burger King Foot Lettuce
Every bronze player is bad, not just every bronze genji
We are lmao 😂
This is why we need to nerd genji.
@@1amvibes494 genji playerd are already nerds
Every genjis is bad because they are mentally incapable of being sane after playing this hero
@@NavidSharifipoursame to echo
TBH this guy really doesn't belong in bronze. His Genji wasn't the best, but hey, this was much better than your average bronze Genji. Moreso, as soon as he saw Pharmercy he switched to counter them instead of ignoring or trying to fight them as Genji, and his Cass was pretty good
Saw you live for the first time yesterday; can’t wait for the blinker queen video
the amount of times the enemy team just left their supports to die with absolutely zero peel 😭
It wasn't that as much as the supports wouldn't peel for each other...
@@matttimm452 no it was definitely that, and the supports not peeling for each other. not that they really could half the time since they were dead. 😭
Oh man we were in for a treat! Some foot lettuce lore.
I peaked Master 3, and my Genji is worse than this guys. He just needs a little bit more game sense, and, honestly, I can see him in Gold to Plat. Probably had a bad widow day, it happens, and the Cass in the end was kind of clean. That being said, this was the legendary day we got to see the burger king foot lettuce.
yeah those foot lettuce shots at the end there on cass were pretty clean he has potential
why so many comas 😂
@@nxz-frostyy5104 tbh he only used 2 commas more than necessary
@@dresdi compared to the avg internet user who spends apprx. 1 comma per day, this guy goes above and beyond lol
@@Real_MisterSiror he just knows how to properly communicate and not make his sentence confusing, like most internet teens.
The Burger King Foot Lettuce detour was so iconic
I wish my genji games were like this anytime I try to play genji I feel like I get hard targeted
emongg is like the jerma of the overwatch community
as a member of the genji community, we humbly like to revoke his speed pass for genji.
The lack of use of the melee button in the replay just hurts to see
I fucking love the cut to just “Burger King Foot Lettuce” after emongg is just like “fuck they really did that huh?”
I think if he's not bronze, silver is probably it for now. Decent genji mechanics and pretty alright aim. Those could probably carry him a rank but he needs better positioning and game sense. Maybe if he stopped playing genji for a bit he'd learn a new character or two he can swap to when genji isn't the move. It sounds weird but that's how I got out of being a complete pharah one trick. Now I'm just mostly a pharah one trick.
We got right click randy left click larry and now hindering hank what's next rolling rob
15:06 EMONGG LMAOOOOO that is absolutely the correct response to toxic little shits haha
Yeah lmao
HOLY CRAP THATS ME TYSMMMM : 3
we may be in different ranks, but 10:19 you have so much more awareness of junkrat nonsense than I do 😂 I walk into junkrat traps on cooldown like it's my destiny
BuRgEr KiNg FoOt LeTtUcE
the last thing you want in your burger king lettuce
Im not sure if anyone else noticed this, the real reason why this game was lost is actually at 22:09. He was very clearly staring at 3 people in his high noon, but only 2 of them died. You can even see at the end of his high noon that there are 3 bullets left. Question is, how did the cassidy survive that, without even taking any damage? Slowing it down, you even see the trail of the bullet that was supposed to dome cass, so did it miss? High noon has been known to miss occasionally before the recent patch, but even then that was only on targets that were transitioning between animations quickly. That cassidy was walking in a straight line to the left, no roll or anything. If the shot had connected, the enemy team would've been left in a 2v4 instead of a 3v3, which would likely have completely flipped how things turned out. I genuinely have no idea what happened here, and dont have the replay code to investigate further either, but it seems that high noon is making sure to secure its status as one of the worst ults in the game.
It looks like one of the supports took the shot intended for Cass
@Marblr why is the high noon killing 2 people instead of 3 here?? 👀
the burger king foot lettuce sub plot lol
honestly not that bad of a genji, I'm D3 and even I play genji around this if not worse alot of the time (I don't play genji much).
If he works on his game sense a bit he could easily climb to gold.
bruh i came here to laugh and have a good time and ended up terrified because the foot lettuce incidented happened where I go to eat sometimes when I go to Microcenter?! excuuuuuuuuuuse me????? I had no idea 0.0
Didn't expect burget king foot lettuce to be there, really lol
Number 15, Burger king foot lettuce.
I love this… “you made me discover burger king foot lettuce, now give me money” I’m here for it
It's not that he says "Burger King foot-lettuce." it is HOW he says Burger King foot-lettuce.
Today I learned that I have copper level Genji mechanics 💀
15:06 that is true, but If there was I'd also be in it. I am the bronze rein one trick with no trick
I wasn’t expecting the Burger King foot lettuce at the end 😂
Strange, few days after grenade change, quenes for tanks are like 10 seconds and supports take me over 2 minutes sometimes even 4 minutes. What could possibly cause such quene times?
Same, when I queue flex for QP, I'm always getting tank after 5 seconds compared to the previous seasons where I always got support after 1 minute. Playing tank just feels awful right now.
I wasn't expecting to watch a Nuke's top5 clip while watching Emongg's videos
that was chills
Just started the video but immediately using high ground already deservers silver 5
i reached there brother.
The foot lettuce was so anticlimactic😭 I was hyped for something funny but nah it was just a creep standing on lettuce😭 at a Burger King lol.
in ow1 season 4 i was a silver ana main and duo’d with my bronze genji friend and now in ow2 im diamond and he is plat. All he did was improve his positioning and got guaranteed healing.
Im glad i got to be a part of the burger king foot lettuce giftathon 😂
Oh my god I cant believe burger king foot lettuce made it to the youtube video.
Burger King foot lettuce brings me back to the top 15 scary videos
it was hard to watch that orisa not ult at the end and die in their mei freeze oof xD
Borgor foot lettuce!
im fking dying here bro 🤣
IM JELLYFISH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"nobody is looking at the genji in bronze"
but when i play genji all 5 of them shoot me when i even look at them. 😑😑😥😥🙂🙂
I don’t know why but for me it’s more difficult as tengo to carry a bronce team than a día on one 😂
amazing vid :) i will support you forever❤
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holy shit that burger king is the one next to my old house
Yes a bronze genji CAN dominate in bronze/silver but if one support has half a brain they'll go Moira and no more Genji.
Hit with some Wednesday Deja Vu. Saw it live and then got to re-live the beauty of foot lettuce...i didn't know what it was either
number 15 burger king foot lettuce
Torb turrets handle all this lol
we will never know the censored name is beigehydra 😟
Where did you get that streets of rage music from. That sounded like a different version of the music. Is that from 4?
Everybody gangster until they go pharmercy :(
As a silver/bronze player, YES
"what is burger king foot lettuce"???
number 15
People don’t see the Genji because he’s a ninja. *taps head*
lol how much money did emongg get paid to watch burger king foot lettuce 😂😂
thats why ive got so many quick play hours
Number 15,,,, burger king foot lettuce,, ,
Y’all really gave the man 110 gifted to watch that?
If this is a bronze genji then I should be high silver-mid gold
I'm in diamond 1 right now for support and I see genjis that play like this sometimes
Ye
My teammates be ignoring genjis while i got both theyre supports and dps counterpicking me in gold lobbies
what’s emong’s outro music?
This genji isn't bronze he is probably a gold trying to cosplay as necros in bronze.
Nah, genjis good because he dashes in, deflects then just dashes to safety. And if his dash isnt up, he basically flies around being stupid hard to hit. Also he can 2 auto most 200 healt enemies.
EMONGG DOESN'T KNOW WHAT BURGER KING FOOT LETTUCE IS?????????????????????????????????
Necros should take notes
orisa smurf thrower
I'm a gold tank (used to be diamond in overwatch 1) but I had a game with ball, zarya, junk queen, and orisa. It was a 4v5 game in the second part of the match. It was on Shambali Monastery. The code is HHWDVS and my name in game is BeigeGaming. I'm not sure how to submit videos but I think you'd get a kick out of this one.
woah his aim is pretty goox
UUUUULT!!!
4:20
When i play genji it is exactly like his genji (or worse) but im Diamond
I really feel for these supports. I for sure would have gone Brig/Moira just to ruin his day...
Genji is hard to hit when you cant aim... Like 95% of bronze players.
"bronze 5`" should be "top 500 1"
Lowkey wanna know how is this genji bronze he was actually playing good id say he should be silver 1 or gold 5
I hate people who switch for widow or sombra in overtime
Avid genji ignorer here. Its because I CANNOT hit the genji 😭😭
shit, his genji is probably better then mine and i'm in G1 on console
I swear bronze is where normal gameplay goes to die
Average torb gameplay tbh. Throw turret and miss everything
Honestly yes he deserves Bronze but he is not Bronze 5. He is definitely Bronze 1.
He looks decent with genji but those plays aren't working in higher ranks
the thing about these low elo plays is that they made bad plays and it pays off because they are low rank where people are not as good at punishing. then when these players get to higher ranks they get completely shit on because they now have these bad play styles that worked before but now don't. gives people a false sense of being good at the game.
why does he say room as "rum"
people from the east coast and Midwest in the US pronounce room that way, that's all.