Nick... Funny as hell you are... Always sayin' EXACTLY what I'd be thinking. Always sucks when you're on your back AND doin' your best with limited space, tools, etc. Helped me a LOT. THX buddy!! :)
Thanks great video saved me day of work for my Dana 30 no vibration from pinion bearing I had crush sleave makes so much quicker. Also marked socket with stripe so when I tighten nut I could see it turn. 👍👍👍👍😁
I regeared and everything was the same between the old gears and new gears, however when I try to torque my pinion I can barely spin the pinion as I'm not even close to 150 foot pounds, I've tried removing shims and I can't figure out why my pinion won't spin, any advice would help
Thanks for making a helpful vid! I enjoy your vidios because they are how the average backyard builder would do without a million dollar shop and every tool know to man! Keep up the good work! Rock on!
Make sure to look up how your axle is setup. You might have a crush sleeve, and if that's the case you can just crank it down till you get the pre-load you need
Great Vid.... Your relaxed humour about the whole thing is legend!! Love how it starts in the the early light of day and ends late a night with a “that’ll do, oh! But if the drive train explodes then... maybe not ha ha”. Awesome you are the working mans hero!!
Doing my pinion seal (and other fun diff things), but luckily my preload seems fine... so long as I don't bung it up when I get it back together. Anyway, this video was a great refresher! Been a long time since I did a pinion seal and I've never done it on a 30 until today. Thanks man!
Wow, you're right. I have posted a video on Gray Goose in like 2 months now, guess it's been awhile ehh? But don't worry, I've got a few more vids lined up.
Hey question for ya. I know this is an old post. But I have a leak coming from the splines between the pinion gear threads and the pinion yoke. I have a Dana 35 which i know is crush sleeve relative. I have put it back together myself, but it didn't have a star washer. I'm curious if you know where to get them. Cuz I want to put in a new crush sleeve, but want to get a star washer to put in just in case. Also might get some of that gasket sealer specifically for gear oil. But when I put this back together I didn't put a new crush sleeve on it, i just tightened it a little more, so that may be my issue why it's leaking ever so slightly. Just wondering if you know where to get those star washers. I've checked amazon and ebay. They don't have much, if any, of those types and with 26 splines or star edges. However you want to say
That's a good questions, as a quick google search doesn't show any results. You could try asking fb groups. I just reused the old one, and added some RTV as well to keep it sealed up.
It still spins because both axle shafts still spin when driving. If you could pull one if the shafts like with how central axle disconnect works, then the spider gears can spin free instead of the carrier. That's part of why lock out hubs are popular.
@@NickInTimeFilms Thanks. By the way I bought one of your diagnostic readers for my 1989 YJ Renix after two years of chasing my tail replacing sensors, fixing crappy wires, vaccum lines and cleaning fuse block. It told my I had a bad 02 sensor which was one of the first things I had replaced. So I was reluctant to believe it but they are cheap on Amazon so I bought a new one and I will be danged if it didn't fix my issue. The old Wrangler has never run so good. I think I had multiple issues that got better as I was trying to track down the problem. Seemed like it ran better after going through vaccum system and every little bad connection I found but never could get it to run right. So thank you for doing what you do!
Question...I replaced my seal, but im unable to check the preload since I dont have a torque wrench with an inch pounds gauge. Is it necessary to check the preload, even if all Im doing is replacing the seal? Thanks.
To do the preload check properly you are suppose to remove the ring gear, so even my method here wasn't great. Depends how worn out your bearings are but you can get by just swapping seals and making sure you are torqued to spec.
Hello. I am currently doing a reagear myself first time I missed one thing and had a question if you could help. When you removed that seal isn't there or was there an oil slinger or like a big shim that covers over top of that bearing right on the other side of that pinion seal? If you know or recall I would appreciate your recollection or input as I don't feel like getting it wrong and was the only thing I was questioning trying to put my new pinion in before I do a final button up next weekend. Thank you!
There may have been an oil slinger somewhere on the pinion stack, but i have no idea how that got it in there as I had to bend the crap out of it when i did the first regear. can probably spot that in the first dana 30 teardown video.
@@NickInTimeFilms thank you very much. I have since seen and found that yes there is supposed to be one right on the other side of the seal when it gets popped out found out they are supposed to be there for proper oiling of the end or front bearings as both sides of the pinion are supposed to have one not sure what if anything happens if not replaced like they're supposed to be but not going to find out either😁 thanks again for response though and keep the jeep going FOREVER👍
Can someone explain how to remove a Dana 30 rear pinion bearing on an 01 Grand Cherokee? I've tried absurd amounts of heat and two 5lbs magnets to try and pull it out from the backside but no luck. I got it to move maybe a couple millimeters but it refuses to go any further.. I'm honestly just trying to avoid pulling the front diff and pushing it out the back.
I need the rear end replaced in my 2000 Cherokee. My pinion is bad plus other bearing bad. Im wanting to take out axles, housing an all out of my 2000 cherokee and replace it with another complete housing axels an all.unbolt u bolts drop it all. What modal jeeps will inner change. I know i have a Dana 30 in the front and its good and a Dana 35 in the rear thats bad.. My rear gear ratio is 355. What other jeep rear ends will inner change and i will be ok with my front end dana 30
Your rear is more then likely a Chrysler 8.25 which is better then the Dana 35. And Xj Cherokee rest axle will swap in, but the 8.25 is the best no hassle swap. The ford 8.8 is a common swap but it requires mount modifications
I'm pretty sure your missing a thrust washer and a baffle but I'm sure you know that. I left that baffle out to be able to do what your doing. Cause with the baffle in you have to pull everything out to take shims out . We tried it both ways and it seems to last just as long with or without a baffle. If no baffleis installed it's a good idea to overfill the axle with fluid by parking on a hill or get a aftermarket cover with a raised hole.
I honestly couldn't figure out how to get the baffle back in as it was bigger than either opening, so I just left it out. With my aftermarket diff cover the hole is a little higher so it should be good but thanks for the tip.
What does the baffle do and thrust washer ? Where im working on my zj and i don’t have the baffle but diagram says it has one and my pinion seal kept leaking i thought bearings and they wherent so bad But quite the play so im kinda loss did new bearings and cases and hopefully this helps that
This quick fix held for several months until the bearing worn down so much I couldn't tighten it up. New bearing and I had to tighten up the carrier backlash and so far so good. Also rebuilt the transfercase because the rear bearing was making the Driveshaft vibrate causing all these issues to begin with.
@@NickInTimeFilms thanks for the reply. I think I might go the shim removal route to get me through this wheeling season. Im trying to go full locker and regear next winter. I would rather not spend money on a rebuild kit now and then have to re do it next season. The funds are just not there right now. Thanks again
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Very convenient video, since I'm starting to have really bad droning from the front and it wasn't the hubs (which I changed). Time to get the back on the ground. Again. :D
Any reason you didn't want to just put your air impact on the nut to tighten it back up? My impact has 3 settings, I think the low setting is somewhere around 200.
I think i did run it on with the impact but i never trust tools for final torque specs because that is very bad. It's best to finish the job by hand so you know exactly what you're getting. I just couldn't achieve the angles i needed to do it easily. a vehicle lift would have helped tremendously.
A question I have a Grand Cherokee that has a different rearend not sure which rearend know for sure that it's not a Dyna how do I find the number to the rearend and or find what yoke goes back in it do not have the old yoke
Hmm, the grand Cherokees usually had a Dana 35 or Dana 44A in the rear if I recall. The easiest way to identify is to look at the diff cover. differentials.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Differential-ID-Chart.jpg
I regeared my HP30 two weeks ago, on the way home my inner seal started leaking and was pouring gear oil out the tube! Had to tear it all down again to replace them. Worst part about it - I didn't replace them the first time because "they looked ok". That'll teach me.... Anyways - I RTV'd the all the seals, including pinion seal, in hopes of avoiding leaks. So far so good. Question though: your pinion wasn't that loose when you first installed it, does that happen over time? What gave along the way? Thanks!!
Same here, I ALWAYS replace the seals now, haha. The pinion was hopefully installed correctly the first time but the bearings just wear over time I guess. Not too sure but I'm driving on it for as long as I did with the vibes probably didn't help. I really should do the tcase bearing now but the might mean pulling the whole case which would suck, i'll have to check some time
I hope not, but I was trying my best to only really heat the central ring. It doesn't make any noise so I guess I won't know for sure but it's a lot better then it was.
Hey Nick. First time for me making a comment. Love you vids man. Been watchin' them for a few months now. I've owned my '89 XJ Limited since new. Re-powered it in '04 with a fresh long block. I recently started going through her and fixing all the little things that have become inop over the years like power door locks, slow power windows and minor wear and tear. By your standards, mines a "Pavement Princess" I'm sure but it's nice to have a 4X4 just in case. Anyway, again, love you vids and keep 'em coming but please loose that claw hammer and grab a ball-peen from now on ;-D
Haha, it's nice to see a clean truck every now and then, a lot easier to maintain too. I might be willing to try a ball peen if there was a large one laying around, I only got little dinky ones and my dad gets the claws from work so it's an easy decision, haha.
Yes, the inner shim pack is used to adjust pinion depth when setting up a proper gear wear pattern. The outer shim pack is what we are adjusting here which only affects rear bearing preload.
This will vary depending on how bad your bearing is. I just had to do this job again a month ago, and the bearing was so gone it wouldn't even tighten up with 0 shims, haha. New bearing and adding shims and she's tight again. I need to rebuild the transfer case bearings so it will stop wearing diff so fast
04:25 I think you are impacting the pinion gear agains the ring gear by using impact drive. Better i use a long breaker bar instead. No impacts on the gears..
Fancy G micrometer, posh :-D, dont forget to check zero, and to clean the anvils pull a sheet of paper through, safe way :-). I bet that bearing/seal will be fine now, (No cardboard was harmed in this episode) :-D I only have a metric one, not digital :-(. But ive found the digital rule to be quite usefull, after i bought it cheap from aldi and got it home, i took it apart, cleaned it/relube, set its slack, and it repeats fine now LOL. :-D. Well its cheap £8, cant moan at that :-D.
Though I recognized that voice, yup, NickInTimeFilms
Find your videos very helpful with tackling my jeep issues. Thanks a lot!
Nick... Funny as hell you are... Always sayin' EXACTLY what I'd be thinking. Always sucks when you're on your back AND doin' your best with limited space, tools, etc. Helped me a LOT. THX buddy!! :)
Thanks great video saved me day of work for my Dana 30 no vibration from pinion bearing I had crush sleave makes so much quicker. Also marked socket with stripe so when I tighten nut I could see it turn. 👍👍👍👍😁
Love these videos. The humor is great as is the content.
Crush sleeve eliminator kit is the way to go..
If I’m replacing the bearing should I just leave all the shims alone and try it first or what do you suggest
It wouldn't hurt to try the stock shim stack first to see where you end up.
I regeared and everything was the same between the old gears and new gears, however when I try to torque my pinion I can barely spin the pinion as I'm not even close to 150 foot pounds, I've tried removing shims and I can't figure out why my pinion won't spin, any advice would help
Might need more shims then
Thanks for making a helpful vid! I enjoy your vidios because they are how the average backyard builder would do without a million dollar shop and every tool know to man! Keep up the good work! Rock on!
I have this job coming up. Pinion wobbles pretty good, but the seal isn't leaking.. I guess I could confirm it has oil in it...
Thanks!
2000 XJ Sport
Thanks for a great walkthrough and the humor! Going to do the front seal in my XJ now, luckily mine doesnt seem to have a preload shake
great video
Why do you say grade eight bolts are soft? Improper use of tools that rounds stuff off doesn’t make them soft
87 Jeep YJ Dana 35 rear seal replacing right now just watch the video I had a lot of movement as well or play now I know what to do thank you
Make sure to look up how your axle is setup. You might have a crush sleeve, and if that's the case you can just crank it down till you get the pre-load you need
I realized when I was taking my yoke bolt off it was loose my bearing wasn't pushed all the way back
Love the hardcore/metalcore in the background. Makes sense, since your from New Jersey.
Great Vid.... Your relaxed humour about the whole thing is legend!! Love how it starts in the the early light of day and ends late a night with a “that’ll do, oh! But if the drive train explodes then... maybe not ha ha”. Awesome you are the working mans hero!!
Doing my pinion seal (and other fun diff things), but luckily my preload seems fine... so long as I don't bung it up when I get it back together. Anyway, this video was a great refresher! Been a long time since I did a pinion seal and I've never done it on a 30 until today. Thanks man!
You kill me!!! loved the video. Thanks for the laughs...
Been awhile since I've seen a video on the old jeep! I was starting to miss it
Wow, you're right. I have posted a video on Gray Goose in like 2 months now, guess it's been awhile ehh? But don't worry, I've got a few more vids lined up.
NickInTimeFilms excited! Love all the videos
Hey question for ya. I know this is an old post. But I have a leak coming from the splines between the pinion gear threads and the pinion yoke. I have a Dana 35 which i know is crush sleeve relative. I have put it back together myself, but it didn't have a star washer. I'm curious if you know where to get them. Cuz I want to put in a new crush sleeve, but want to get a star washer to put in just in case. Also might get some of that gasket sealer specifically for gear oil. But when I put this back together I didn't put a new crush sleeve on it, i just tightened it a little more, so that may be my issue why it's leaking ever so slightly. Just wondering if you know where to get those star washers. I've checked amazon and ebay. They don't have much, if any, of those types and with 26 splines or star edges. However you want to say
That's a good questions, as a quick google search doesn't show any results. You could try asking fb groups. I just reused the old one, and added some RTV as well to keep it sealed up.
Why would front drive shaft pinion cause hwy vibration. It should not be turning.
It still spins because both axle shafts still spin when driving. If you could pull one if the shafts like with how central axle disconnect works, then the spider gears can spin free instead of the carrier. That's part of why lock out hubs are popular.
@@NickInTimeFilms Thanks. By the way I bought one of your diagnostic readers for my 1989 YJ Renix after two years of chasing my tail replacing sensors, fixing crappy wires, vaccum lines and cleaning fuse block. It told my I had a bad 02 sensor which was one of the first things I had replaced. So I was reluctant to believe it but they are cheap on Amazon so I bought a new one and I will be danged if it didn't fix my issue. The old Wrangler has never run so good. I think I had multiple issues that got better as I was trying to track down the problem. Seemed like it ran better after going through vaccum system and every little bad connection I found but never could get it to run right. So thank you for doing what you do!
Awesome stuff man! Glad to hear you're up and running again.
Question...I replaced my seal, but im unable to check the preload since I dont have a torque wrench with an inch pounds gauge. Is it necessary to check the preload, even if all Im doing is replacing the seal? Thanks.
To do the preload check properly you are suppose to remove the ring gear, so even my method here wasn't great. Depends how worn out your bearings are but you can get by just swapping seals and making sure you are torqued to spec.
Power wash before you start?
Hello. I am currently doing a reagear myself first time I missed one thing and had a question if you could help. When you removed that seal isn't there or was there an oil slinger or like a big shim that covers over top of that bearing right on the other side of that pinion seal? If you know or recall I would appreciate your recollection or input as I don't feel like getting it wrong and was the only thing I was questioning trying to put my new pinion in before I do a final button up next weekend. Thank you!
There may have been an oil slinger somewhere on the pinion stack, but i have no idea how that got it in there as I had to bend the crap out of it when i did the first regear. can probably spot that in the first dana 30 teardown video.
@@NickInTimeFilms thank you very much. I have since seen and found that yes there is supposed to be one right on the other side of the seal when it gets popped out found out they are supposed to be there for proper oiling of the end or front bearings as both sides of the pinion are supposed to have one not sure what if anything happens if not replaced like they're supposed to be but not going to find out either😁 thanks again for response though and keep the jeep going FOREVER👍
Can someone explain how to remove a Dana 30 rear pinion bearing on an 01 Grand Cherokee? I've tried absurd amounts of heat and two 5lbs magnets to try and pull it out from the backside but no luck. I got it to move maybe a couple millimeters but it refuses to go any further.. I'm honestly just trying to avoid pulling the front diff and pushing it out the back.
21:59 i believe is just old dry grey rtv. the parts diagram does not have a seal, but most people put rtv there (like you end up doing)
I need the rear end replaced in my 2000 Cherokee. My pinion is bad plus other bearing bad. Im wanting to take out axles, housing an all out of my 2000 cherokee and replace it with another complete housing axels an all.unbolt u bolts drop it all. What modal jeeps will inner change. I know i have a Dana 30 in the front and its good and a Dana 35 in the rear thats bad.. My rear gear ratio is 355. What other jeep rear ends will inner change and i will be ok with my front end dana 30
Your rear is more then likely a Chrysler 8.25 which is better then the Dana 35. And Xj Cherokee rest axle will swap in, but the 8.25 is the best no hassle swap. The ford 8.8 is a common swap but it requires mount modifications
Good video me and my riding buddies that have that axle have to do the same thing pretty much every year but all we play in is mud
I'm pretty sure your missing a thrust washer and a baffle but I'm sure you know that. I left that baffle out to be able to do what your doing. Cause with the baffle in you have to pull everything out to take shims out . We tried it both ways and it seems to last just as long with or without a baffle. If no baffleis installed it's a good idea to overfill the axle with fluid by parking on a hill or get a aftermarket cover with a raised hole.
I honestly couldn't figure out how to get the baffle back in as it was bigger than either opening, so I just left it out. With my aftermarket diff cover the hole is a little higher so it should be good but thanks for the tip.
What does the baffle do and thrust washer ? Where im working on my zj and i don’t have the baffle but diagram says it has one and my pinion seal kept leaking i thought bearings and they wherent so bad But quite the play so im kinda loss did new bearings and cases and hopefully this helps that
Did you have any fluid leak out on you when you had the yoke off and what size socket did you use to get the nut to the yoke off with ?
No and 1-1/8"
Hey Nick,. How long did this repair buy you before a complete bearing replace? Im trying to get one season out of my current bearings.
This quick fix held for several months until the bearing worn down so much I couldn't tighten it up. New bearing and I had to tighten up the carrier backlash and so far so good. Also rebuilt the transfercase because the rear bearing was making the Driveshaft vibrate causing all these issues to begin with.
@@NickInTimeFilms thanks for the reply. I think I might go the shim removal route to get me through this wheeling season. Im trying to go full locker and regear next winter. I would rather not spend money on a rebuild kit now and then have to re do it next season. The funds are just not there right now. Thanks again
Very convenient video, since I'm starting to have really bad droning from the front and it wasn't the hubs (which I changed). Time to get the back on the ground. Again. :D
Why tf are you messing with preload shims if you can't check preload!? 🥴🙄
Any reason you didn't want to just put your air impact on the nut to tighten it back up? My impact has 3 settings, I think the low setting is somewhere around 200.
I think i did run it on with the impact but i never trust tools for final torque specs because that is very bad. It's best to finish the job by hand so you know exactly what you're getting. I just couldn't achieve the angles i needed to do it easily. a vehicle lift would have helped tremendously.
A question I have a Grand Cherokee that has a different rearend not sure which rearend know for sure that it's not a Dyna how do I find the number to the rearend and or find what yoke goes back in it do not have the old yoke
Hmm, the grand Cherokees usually had a Dana 35 or Dana 44A in the rear if I recall. The easiest way to identify is to look at the diff cover. differentials.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Differential-ID-Chart.jpg
Thanks I think that helped me out
Where did you buy the seal I can't find one for my ?@nickintimefilms
Finally!!!A jeep video, Thanks...
I regeared my HP30 two weeks ago, on the way home my inner seal started leaking and was pouring gear oil out the tube! Had to tear it all down again to replace them. Worst part about it - I didn't replace them the first time because "they looked ok". That'll teach me....
Anyways - I RTV'd the all the seals, including pinion seal, in hopes of avoiding leaks. So far so good.
Question though: your pinion wasn't that loose when you first installed it, does that happen over time? What gave along the way?
Thanks!!
Same here, I ALWAYS replace the seals now, haha. The pinion was hopefully installed correctly the first time but the bearings just wear over time I guess. Not too sure but I'm driving on it for as long as I did with the vibes probably didn't help. I really should do the tcase bearing now but the might mean pulling the whole case which would suck, i'll have to check some time
24:10 me working on cars most of the time :)
Did the heat from the MAP torch not screw up your bearing?
I hope not, but I was trying my best to only really heat the central ring. It doesn't make any noise so I guess I won't know for sure but it's a lot better then it was.
TOOOL
if just doing seal, measure distance nut is on and replace to same without having to do all the torque?
+Joe Fresso if you do that method, it's recommended to tighten it about an 1/8 turn more to make up for anything that loosened up
was that an AvE reference there at the beginning?! vidjaoh
Hey Nick. First time for me making a comment. Love you vids man. Been watchin' them for a few months now. I've owned my '89 XJ Limited since new. Re-powered it in '04 with a fresh long block. I recently started going through her and fixing all the little things that have become inop over the years like power door locks, slow power windows and minor wear and tear. By your standards, mines a "Pavement Princess" I'm sure but it's nice to have a 4X4 just in case.
Anyway, again, love you vids and keep 'em coming but please loose that claw hammer and grab a ball-peen from now on ;-D
Haha, it's nice to see a clean truck every now and then, a lot easier to maintain too. I might be willing to try a ball peen if there was a large one laying around, I only got little dinky ones and my dad gets the claws from work so it's an easy decision, haha.
Fair enough Nick. Lookin' forward to your next repair adventure.
Is there a inner and outer shim pack on the pinion of the dana 30?
Yes, the inner shim pack is used to adjust pinion depth when setting up a proper gear wear pattern. The outer shim pack is what we are adjusting here which only affects rear bearing preload.
NickInTimeFilms where is the inner? Is it located between the inner bearing and the oil slinger?
From notes in my gear install video, looks like the shims are between the inner bearing race and the axle housing.
NickInTimeFilms thanks
How many shims did u take out total I need to do this!
This will vary depending on how bad your bearing is. I just had to do this job again a month ago, and the bearing was so gone it wouldn't even tighten up with 0 shims, haha. New bearing and adding shims and she's tight again. I need to rebuild the transfer case bearings so it will stop wearing diff so fast
NickInTimeFilms just did mine today took 16 thousands
did you say seal
What size sucket you used
3:40 1-1/8"
Dude you crack me up😂
04:25 I think you are impacting the pinion gear agains the ring gear by using impact drive. Better i use a long breaker bar instead. No impacts on the gears..
Sounding a bit knackered there m8! :-) Excellent work, always enjoy your vids!
Note to self: buy the lift when I get to this on my XJ!
Well done sir I learned a lot!
any unmarked van's sitting in front of you're house after buying that 2" pipe and cap?! lol
"She's a bit of a monster hey",!?! Love that line,! Is that an original???
This seems like the absolute worst way to spend a weekend xD nice work as always though
Fancy G micrometer, posh :-D, dont forget to check zero, and to clean the anvils pull a sheet of paper through, safe way :-).
I bet that bearing/seal will be fine now, (No cardboard was harmed in this episode) :-D
I only have a metric one, not digital :-(.
But ive found the digital rule to be quite usefull, after i bought it cheap from aldi and got it home, i took it apart, cleaned it/relube, set its slack, and it repeats fine now LOL. :-D.
Well its cheap £8, cant moan at that :-D.
Lol you have to set preload with no carrier installed! Your doing it wrong!
Angela&Brandon Santa Cruz he did say that he was doing it wrong and said he didn’t care🤷♂️
Oh!
Really informative, thanks.
Love the licence plate.
Think I will pass on this method
Crazy political ads
So much misinformation in this video, thx for sharing!
So much missing information in this comment, thx for sharing!