I Changed Bass Drum Pedals!?
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so, are you going to be selling any of your old gear?
@@mioakiyama4919 Hi Mio
66Samus I’m going to miss the stream tomorrow night so can you please play wash it all away on Saturday please
no i wont play that fuckn crackden of a game..
Tell them to put those fat boards on the A-series
YESS!! I use the longboards and would love to have those bigger boards.
Or.... Just buy the new pedals?
I second this
FullBeard I agree with this
FullBeard , *Fartboards
66Samus signature Axis kickpedal when?
66samus Pearl Snare Singnature? When?
@@voiddrummer1861 66Samus Signature Sticks? When?
Signature 66Samus? When?
66Samus signature dildos? When?
@@8bitmetal That one is coming soon, I guess.
For a split second I thought that you bought Czarcie Kopyto pedals xD
I was guessing Trick :O
BeardedDanishViking same trick pedals are bad ass but I have the a21s and god are they nice
I was wanting some of those and apparently they're a pain in the ass to get shipped to the US, so I just got some Trick Pro 1 Bigfoots instead. I'm extremely happy with the Tricks especially since Sweetwater let me finance them 😂 ,but still would love some of the Czarcie pedals
Those pedals look amazing.
Those pedals look like the metal gods opened the earth and gave man the world's most awesome and most expensive double bass pedal lol. They look sick but I've only seen them via UA-cam. Never met a drummer who's had them but if I didn't already have an expensive pedal I'd probably look into getting it. But I'm happy with my DW9000 / trick drive shaft pedals lol.
Play some Rip and Tear with those badboi yardies.
Dont forget BFG Division
Dude, this company must be treating you really really well, because you're one of the few that is not changing to czarcie kopyto and footblaster xD
Axis actually had kind of a crew change recently I heard. Guess that means better customer service and fresh wind into the design team. They're really trying to improve at lightning speed right now, I like it a lot!
@@Ironsvillage good to know! They have much work to do though, specially in Europe. Here in Spain a new longboard axis pedal cost nearly 1000 euros... (while the demon drive or the speedcobra are around 600...)
@@vicsandSTR oh yeah man axis stuff is really hard to come by here in europe ... i have my axis a series pedals for about 10 or 11 years now , took me like 4 years to find and get the axis e-kits aswell and guess what ... the fucking beater of the right pedal broke off because it was hitting the connection part of the double pedal , never found any way to get a replacement for that thing , spend about 720€ for the pedals and i think about 100€ for the e kits that broke after a month ..
@@mikestckl6939 Damm, you really had bad luck D: didn't you have some kind of guarantee?
@@vicsandSTR nah bought em used haha , but all good , i repaired them by now , as a hobby machineist that wasnt a big pain in the ass but still sucked that they broke in the first place and that a replacement hammer costs about 50€ PER PIECE at thomann ...
ngl when I saw the title I figured Samus was gonna switch to Czarcie Kopyto
Ikr?
Digital Deathsquid SAMEE
Or ACD
That was my first thought
I thought it was going to be Trick... since this video appeared as a top search result for "trick vs axis pedals"...
Very impressive, but can you play snare with kick pedal and bass drum with drumsticks?
Efe Dalgıc that would be lowkey sick
wrong channel
Mink Davie504 doesn’t do those videos anymore he’s all about vlogs, memes, and comedy now
I love that spring tension adjustment, that's SO much easier!
I would love a more affordable Axis pedal.
Get the short boards or buy used!
@axisT6 Either they CNC machine them at very little cost and use the high price to cover the cost of the machines, or they pay an actual worker to laboriously mill the individual components, which is just an unnecessary waste of time, which also increases the prices. There are also R&D costs to cover as well as the margins for distributors and retailers to factor in too.
However, given the simplicity of machined items like this, there's nothing stopping anybody from walking into a machine shop and replicating them. I've seen some manufacturers in other industries specifically use manufacturing methods that require large or expensive machinery (such as closed die forging) just so that they're much more difficult to copy.
And if you did get your hands on a pair of Axis pedals and paid somebody to replicate them, there's probably fuck all Axis could do about it given it has a very kitset-like nature to it anyway. I remember Atari tried to sue a bunch of companies back in the early 80's for cloning the 2600, and they lost their case because the electronics were made entirely from off the shelf parts, and didn't use any proprietary components (such as micro chips etc.) they had designed in-house.
If Axis want to try and stop somebody from copying their design, their best effort would be to design something in such a way that it's much harder to copy, otherwise its their own damn fault.
www.interstatemusic.com/920927-Axis-Sabre-A21-Double-Classic-Black-Pedal-SA212B.aspx
This is about the cheapest you will find. If you can find them in silver they are about $600.
Daniel Gonzalez Just got some for 500! Excellent condition with just minor wear! (A21 lasers that is)
@@Metal-Possum I think it's insane you're claiming the machining on these pedals is simple. You can't just take a block of billet aluminum and make these pedals. They require special tooling for each part. Beside that, CNC machines aren't magic cutting devices, they have to be guided and programmed with a human with machining experience. When you factor labor and equipment cost 1000 dollars is completely reasonable. If you just "get your hands on a pair of Axis pedals and paid somebody to replicate them" It would take them forever, and they would have to get special tooling made.
4:06 _This is just ridiculously big! You can probably use whatever technique you want!_
All together now: That's what ...
From the thumbnail, I thought you had someone else’s legs up and were in awe with what you saw between one’s legs! 😂 #OhhhhhYyyrrrrrrrrr
When i was running the drum shop at Sam Ash, Axis was one of the BEST companies I dealt with, and they also took good care of me and the shop.
I was hoping to see a pair of Czarcie Kopyto 😈
Dude! First of all, congrats because your channel is growing!! And that's all... I'm here just to congratulate you! I'm genuinely happy for you! 😀👍
I love my A-longboards and my X-longboards, I've been using them for around 10 years now also. But I would be intrigued with a larger footboard. So yes, I would like to see that.
That's good to hear regarding the changes over at the company. I ordered my A pedals back in December and still nothing...I had to reach out to someone who worked there on FB to get any sort of response.
I have the original prototypes of the A21 many years ago that Chuck and Karen sent me. Never switched back! Also have the early logo-less silver and back footboards.
10:00 sounds like Bleed Messhuggah
I was waiting and hoping for him to at least put on the guitar riff. I was let down...
Damn son! The 21's have always interested me because of the foot board, I think offering the symmetrical footboard as an upgrade, or have an option to select either them or the "classic" style footboard would be a great idea. I loved my AL-2s and eventually will purchase axis again in the future and I think having the option between the two footboard styles would be pretty cool, could go either both "classic", both symmetrical, or have the option to have one of each, say your non dominant foot is slightly sloppy enough to where you notice it, but was not noticed in your playing, that extra space where the cut out is in the "classics" could be a game changer, or if one is the type of drummer to play in socks or barefoot, sweat would be less of an issue if you don't like the feeling of grip tape
Your doing a great job! I think your videos are informative & entertaining!
Also I didnt know anything about the 21 degree thing thanks for the info! And yes i would LOVE to try the symmetrically footboard....if i still had my acoustic kit.
3:36 that melodic Ohyurr is like Adam Neely's the lick in B.C
Love it! Hahaha
I had a set of Axis A longboards (double pedal) for 10 years which I used all over the place - recordings, touring, etc.
I absolutely LOVED playing them and I had some great times with them. But...
Practically, they were a nightmare;
- the nut for the hoop clamp is directly under the foot board and because it's direct drive, you're fighting it just to get it installed
- there's no 'stop' for the bass drum hoop, which means it's possible to attach it 'too far' and the pedal will rub against the bass drum head, you had to be minutely accurate with it which is a PITA when you're trying to set up quickly on a cramped, dark stage
- the original connecting rod between pedals was round and the only thing securing it against the torque of the left foot were some hex screws clamping into it, these gradually loosened over time and on any number of occasions, it would slip or fail entirely. The later one I had added a drum key screw which allowed it to be more secure, but fundamentally it was still flawed
- adjustment of many parts was done with drum screws that had a plastic cap on it for you to turn by hand. This plastic cap was rubbish in terms of applying enough torque and the parts that used it would slip. Eventually nearly all of them broke on me
- many other parts were secured or adjusted by hex screws and I found them just not up to the job and you'd either slowly wring the keys or the screws
- I came to realise that if something DID break and you were in some random city, the chances of you being able to find parts to repair or replace something was virtually nil
The end result was before every single gig, when I got to the venue I would have to take 20 mins to go over and check or tighten everything to stop things from going wrong. Even at that, I had no end of issues with them over the years.
I see the latest pedals seem to have drum key adjustments in all the key places, that's definitely a step in the right direction. I also should note that many months after I had contacted them for spare parts to no reply, they did reach out to me and really went above and beyond to sort me out, so they are definitely improving on that front.
Glad to see they're putting out new gear, I respect them greatly, but I think I'd struggle to part with the cash for their new gear for anything other than studio use, even with their recent improvements.
I drive by the Axis workshop on the way to work every day! Last couple times I stopped in they've talked about how they've got some really cool stuff in the works, which reminds me I need to get my heel blocks exchanged \m/
Awesome.... he’ll yeah I’ve got 2x AL2 pedals, one black and one silver. I’d love the wider footboard option❤️🤘🏻.... great video as ever bud🙌🏻
Great video as always Samus! Like you I have used Axis AL-2 Longboards for 10+ years and I have never changed because they are just so damn reliable and work so well. They have never given me ANY trouble. I had Tama Iron Cobra Jr's before hand and there is no comparison. Axis pedals are incredible!
Chuck and the others at Axis are great people; I've been working with them for like 15 years now. I may have to get a few of the new hinges to throw on my A21 Longboards.
Axis should consider adding an online shop for replacement parts. My A's had the old heel block design and I found it easier to just order replacements from ACD Unlimited which is based in Austria.
I would also love to see a hoop clamp mechanism that doesn't rely on those rubber feet. They deform quickly and eventually break off.
Awesome News Congratulations and Welcome to the Family
i have the first version of this beauty! allmost 10 years too, never disapoint but i need to buy new heel blocks for this version. AWESOME!
These things look insane. Need to try them out! Great video btw!
hey samus!! i love your videos and enjoy every video. keep going lingaping
Looking forward on that "pedal settings video". I am struggling with double Bass lately and change settings might help
That footboard mod is a great idea. They should also sell the short oats and heel block. There’s times I want to switch.
What a second...left is loose??
Mind blown!! 💥💥
As a lifelong ( 12* yrs) A-Longboards player, and no way of ever buying new, a replacement A21 footboard would be INCREDIBLE!! Would love to replace my heel blocks to those sealed bearings too.
As a drummer with severe M.D., these pedals allow my retarded feet to keep playing what I want , and I stand by the brand 100%.
Congrats broski, AXIS for life🤘
hellyeah dude ! replacement parts would be killer , love my axis pedals but it sucks that you can´t get any replacement stuff , at least here in europe ..
Love your videos. Informative and funny!
We will support you through this! No insurance gig for our boy
I have been using my AL2s for close to 15 years, and absolutely love them. But I have always had the curiosity of trying out the A21s. Had talked to Chuck and Karen about it a few years ago but the ALs still work so well I just kept using them. I'll keep an eye on your channel to see more about how you adjust to the A21s and how you like them. Maybe I'll take the plunge.
Yes I would like the bigger foot board upgrade on the older version IF they also upgrade the heel-block, mine are clapped out and have heaps of left/right wiggle play you mentioned at 6:55 after 10+ years of use
I actually didn't know they upgraded the heel block on the newer ones until you mentioned it, may even just upgrade because of that anyway
A longboard to A21 conversion?! Oh yuurrr! Gimmie 🥺
Perfect pedal board for my size 14 shoe!!!
9:58 Meshuggah, "Bleed" 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
10:01 Fart
Helmi Jim LOL
I currently have a big foot trick pro 1-V and I would love to see the new foot boards on the Axis A series!
Yes to those beautiful footboards on the A-series
Definitely need to improve on customer service. I sent them an email weeks ago and still haven't got back to me 😭
They are morons. When they finally sent me my parts, they sent half the order and had to run around to get the other half of my order.
I have Axis Longboards, and I would definitely get behind the larger footboard. Probably even pre-order it.
I love the style of the ones you had before and the silver aluminum. Would’ve been cool if they had that on the big new boards
yes sure i would love to use it
I use the Derek Roddy signature pedals, but I've used the A21 Lasers and damn, those footboards are incredible. Put 'em on!
I’ll keep an eye out for new axis stuff even tho oim late to tha partie. Throw Another Shrimp on the Bahee!
Man your old pedals are my dream pedals!!! But the new ones look so fucking metal. Congrats!
Damn! Those A21s look pretty sic man.
Yes I absolutely would like the big footboard
I've got size 18 shoe, so this size of a foot board is perfect!
3:35 Where he actually opens the box
Love your videos bro ....new fan 👍
Have the same pedals for years now. Very smooth. Got them at guitar center for $400 for the double bass set
snap , welcome to the a21/sabre crew . Mr Roddy would be proud
Dammit I was going to buy these pedals last year when I saw some of my favorite drummers used them, like Richard Christy.. but not 66Samus! So NOW HERE YOU ARE!
Big footboard? Thats a go! Definetly would help someone
I have both the those pedals toooo! I love them both to bits - best feeling pedals ever at any tempo. I have the A’s set up as a double and the Lazer’s set up as two singles. I love the classic axis A footboard look, and don’t experience any downside with it compared with Lazer’s big footboard. The Lazer’s have always felt like 5% more “natural” to me, probably because of the 21 degree flat milled on the #1 pc. I play a lot of death metal but I also play a lot of hip hop/funk and the Axis will never be outdone. I’m a Machinist by trade, and I can really appreciate the craftsmanship that goes into these pedals. My A’s are probably a decade older than the Lazer’s and i swear side by side you almost can’t feel a difference. The A’s have been thrashed around hard - carelessly tossed into the back of a trailer travelling to and from shows. Never had a single issue with either sets of pedals. My favourite features have to be the super lightweight footboard, and the ability to easily switch between two single pedals and a double pedal. The biggest improvement with the Lazer’s over the A’s is definitely NO MORE ALLEN KEYS! That and the 21 degree flat (the sonic hammer beaters are a bit heavy for my taste). I’ll buy a pair of George Kollias or Derek Roddy signature from Axis before I even consider trying another, copycat brand.
BLAHHH! IM FREAKIN EXCITED!
I bought mine on their ebay store like 14 years ago. it was the only place i could find them in canada ehh!
I love to drum, I am decent at it lol, I live you and your videos, and for some one who doesn't know technicalities, I am quite Influenced by professional opinions, I could not recommend to adapt the wide board to the A series, but could agree to the symmetry, especially when watching those with speed swivel techniques, it seems it would be more appropriate for such drumming
These look so nice...for such a big pedal Samus is only gonna use the tip of it lol cant wait to watch you play with them tonight!!!
I've got a whole "collection" of A long boards. 2 of the weakest links: the heel hinge (blocks) and the sonic hammer. The heel hinge slop that develops over time is most annoying. I've tightened them, replaced them, etc. I lost count of how many sonic hammers I've broken - they always break where the threads start on the shaft. I got in the habit of bringing an extra one on gigs, because they broke on me live 2 separate times. Also, I've stabbed the tops of my feet every once in a great while when getting a long throw going, which is painful. I switched over to wrecking balls over a year ago, and so far so good. So it's nice to see they've addressed the heel hinge/block issue, and that they eased up promoting the sonic hammers.
I always used the combination of cut down iron cobra beaters and the lower bar from the sonic hammers. Best of both worlds
Andrew Miller yeah man I was doing the same but I still toasted an Axis shaft that way so I gave up on them.
its coming time to upgrade my crappy pdp pedals, and im really eying the laser double pedals, and they are much less expensive than i thought they would be, you're quite the influncer Sam
Demon Drive with the OnTrigger triggers. You will not be disappointed and neither will your wallet.
Heka41 just picked up a pair of A21 like these and it’s a night and day difference lol. I used to have pdp basic pedals too
What are you not a fan of on the pdp pedals?
Ooooooo axis long boards ♡♡♡♡♡ iv always wanted a pair.. so dope..
Sweet I just ordered the sabre a21s last week
so much knowledge
Ur Axis A21 laserboard pedal is awesome bro 😍😍
But I would like to know your thoughts on TRICK PRO 1V Longboard pedal????
Alright, Guess it’s finally time to request Baby Beluga on the live stream. With those new pedals you should be able to hit mach 4 on the blasts now so that song will be no problem for you🤪
Nice!!! Great Borat as well
YES WE WOULD LIKE A BIG SYMMETRICAL FOOTBOARD ON THE A SERIES!!!!!! HOLY SHIT YES
Great idea
I'd be stoked about owning either of those.
Dude you're the best man. So down to earth, open about sponsors and not hiding stuff and supporting blindly. Keep it up mang! DUDE those A21's F YES
It's pretty blind support if there's no other brand tried out, but there's nothing wrong with being loyal to a brand that's treated you well. Pretty much the only pros still using Axis are sponsored though, everyone else has moved to Trick, ACD, or Czarcie Kopyto. If Axis had listened to people years ago and made the improvements wanted, they wouldn't have to be throwing out so many novelties to try to catch up. Samus might get top notch customer service, but another complaint about them has been they don't treat customers well. Enough red flags that I wouldn't buy them for a long time to come.
I have had my axis pedals for 6 years with extensive use. I would like to see them make the slave beater attachment better and not so awkward, it does lack power compared to other pedals because of the long arm it sits on. Also upgrade the driveshaft to not be round. They are not hard to dial in but other pedals have simplicity down and that's what is pushing them out of the market compared too 10 years ago. I remember when axis were THE pedals now they have been a little complacent and have lost significant market share to Trick and other companies essentially just making their design more efficient. Also when you buy a 900$ set of pedals, include a case for them. My 200$ iron cobras came with a case.
hell yes on the foot board
Finally some ball bearings in the heel hinges, it was about time indeed. Next now they desperately need individual beater angle and footboard angle possibilities too.
I have been using A long board almost identical to yours (just in a double set up, not two singles), and I can't say the width, or size of the foot board has ever been an issue for me. Of course I prefer the overall design because it is bigger than my old iron cobras, but I have never felt I needed MOAR. For reference I have size 12 feet, fairly wide.
Wide foot board, more ajusts for foot board independente from the beater without move the distance from beater x bass drum.
Yes I need that footboard.
I definitely would like to see that spring tutorial. Just so I know my stuff isn't wrong
I would say one thing axis could do is add a split cam system to the likes of trick, czarcie kopyto and the demon drives for more versatility in adjustment. One thing I didn’t like about axis pedals was that it lacked a split cam system which meant that I couldn’t adjust the beater angle independently of the foot board height, if axis did this, I’d be the best pedal on the market.
Thats a great idea
Yes! Give us those big ass foot boards for the A series!
I'm sold by just looking at them. Then you played them. yessir! when will they be available?
I've wanted these ever since George kollias showed them off at launch, they still look amazing
I've never used a direct drive let alone Axis pedal. But they look amazing. And when I've into them the foot board kind of scared me on how they're shaped based on the way I play with my foot forward. But with a footboard design like the a21, it looks like it could work better.
I'm loving the live stream it's fun.
STONKS!
I knew it! Great Pedals! Have fun🤘
Love my A21 lasers, they’re amazing
“Just insane and I can’t complain!”
I would definitely have one of these! A pity that does not sell in Brazil.
3:37 such a beautiful oh yur
Ohh yuurr
How much they look great