For any curious, here's the copy of my comment listing all of the lies in his "response" video, in which he doesn't actually respond to my arguments but instead misrepresents them and argues with the straw man he's built. Timestamps are for his response, not this video: "I'll be updating this comment as I watch. I had hoped you'd be honest, but instead it's quite clear you have no intention of engaging in good faith. Here's a list of your lies. For the record, I say the name of your channel and I show the art for it at less than 90 seconds into my video. Why did you lie about that? Also, why pitch my voice up? Yet another lie. You also lied about me asking Reddit. Go look, it's under the heading "Good Tartaria UA-cam Channels?" You also claim that I always use clickbait titles to rationally explain away conspiracies, for example the National Parks one at 12:54, which I can very easily see you did not watch, because I conclude that the NPS is hiding the Wendigo. In this clip, you have a passage on screen downright denying the Jews are actually the Jews: clips.twitch.tv/PiercingHealthyEagleJonCarnage-HrgO5olvmYOO5S4a You claim I don't debunk the World's Fair issue, but I very clearly explain in my video that there will be a part 2 addressing these sorts of claims. And then there's the image of the Plant Museum, which you claim in your original is only provided in low quality by the museum website, but they have right here in high def: www.plantmuseum.com/getattachment/Exhibits/Permanent-Collection/Hotel-Construction/2006-016-002_TBH1889(007).jpg.aspx; You claim that I said that you said the World's Fair buildings couldn't be constructed today, but what I said was that Tartaria Truthers believe we couldn't build Roman stuff today. You claim I said I don't know what old world buildings means, but what I actually said, was that I'm not sure what they mean by "buildings we can't recreate". Once again, you lied. You say I left out your great fire arguments, but I plainly said that I was only covering the second half of your video and would address the first in a part 2. You have lied again. Secret Societies are also coming in Part II, and yet you claim I addressed them. I did not. I simply said you included them in your definition. I will be doing so, and that will be up next week. Yet another lie. I know the history of Freemasonry way, way, way, way better than you. I know numerous 32nd degree masons personally, and will be interviewing a 33rd this summer. Another lie. You say you don't think I'm a real mason. Here I am in Pennsylvania Freemason back in Autumn: issuu.com/pr263/docs/fm_novemberfall_2022 Hope your followers understand the implication of you not being able to find that out. It's also not as simple as "just signing up at a lodge" and the fact that you don't know that is...honestly not surprising at this point. I've actually been on a board of inquiry, thank you very much. You say that I misrepresented you by not faithfully explaining the structure of your video. I very bluntly said I was only covering the second half, and would get to the first half later. In fact, you deliberately edited out what I said just beforehand: ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxlvhwfoZP9rYVj3gpEjDHeOIiiW4JZ9n5 You're a liar. You know full well that Tartary and Tartaria are used interchangeably and this is all just linguistic differences between maps in French, English, Latin, and Italian. Additionally, I'm thirty minutes into this and you've yet to actually argue with a single point I made, just noted that I didn't argue with certain things. I didn't dismiss alternative theories on the origin of the word Tartar. We have primary sources on this, and I used them. An aside, I see through your saccharine attitude. You deliberately take my words out of context, use screencaps where I look silly, and gloss over my points. You accuse me of appealing to authority, and yet your only evidence is the work of MacDari and Donnelly. I cite primary sources. You're the one appealing to authority. You say I don't delve into anything from the book, but I directly address multiple claims from the book in my video. Once again, a lie. You say that I hastily concluded that Conor MacDari and Ignatius Donnelly are the only sources. I don't I said they're the only people you cite. You say I claim their work is invalid because they aren't historians, but I actually directly refute their claims. A lie. Citing Fomenko without any criticism or explanation of his beliefs is an appeal to authority. A bad authority, but an authority. Our response omits Tsarion because you didn't mention him in the second half of the video, which is what we said we covered. A lie by omission. The dictionary you use after that segment is from the 18th century or later, because it includes the word "tattoo". This word did not enter European languages until after the age of exploration. 46:08 Well, guess we're back to it. I didn't dismiss Donnelly as a theosophist, I dismissed him based on his points about Ireland lacking any evidence. 46:26 As I said in my video, this was done using your video, which did not dive deeply into the arguments of Donnelly and MacDari (who I'm sure you know is the American occultist John Geran). I did refute the stuff you did explain of their work, funny how you didn't address that. 46:31 Historians do not argue for the Danube, Turkey, or the Balkans. It's the Eurasian Steppe. Ponto-Caspia. Sarmatia. Lied again. 46:41 Are you incapable of telling your audience the truth? I never said they were the only ones to write about it, just they're the only ones you cited, and as I said we were using your video because it was recommended to us. 47:09 Tsarion, and you, should both know that the Scots did not exist as a distinct group until a thousand years after Herodotus died. Caesar also was not vague and used tribal titles to explain who he was fighting. You're either unaware or you're lying. 48:18 Why are you citing people from 1932 when discussing what current historians believe? 48:47 Your source isn't saying that the British and Irish weren't Celtic in culture, it's saying that they weren't Celtic in ethnicity. Ironically, it's you who misconstrues the source. Also, I addressed all of MacDari's points that you brought up. Why lie? 49:04 Didn't overlook, you didn't bring it up. 49:38 If you had any familiarity with my work, you'd know I talk about the Roman Catholic attempts to assert dominance over the entire world all the time. Specifically, I mention the Dictatus Papae, written during the Investiture Controversy, though according to you, none of that ever happened because it was in the 11th century. 50:03 I've literally talked about the Albigensian Crusade. I'm actually in complete agreement with your source on most of this, just not the part about rewriting history. 51:37 We no longer use the term "Dark Ages" as it is a Victorian construct to believe that the early medieval period was somehow "dark". In reality, it is called the Early Medieval, Late Antiquity, or the Migration Period (depending on exactly what year and where). 51:52 That's a comparison chart, it is not etymology. Etymology would describe the way the word evolved from its earliest known root. 51:55 The Hebrew word "Pasach" means "Passover", and Pascha is derived from that...in Greek. It then moved across Europe, and became other variants of that word. This does not display an Irish to Hebrew connection, it displays a Hebrew to Irish connection. If that is wrong, imagine how much else is... 52:23 I very directly said this was from either MacDari or Donnelly, but you are also claiming it by citing them. 52:37 I can find no examples of the word "Saindrean" being used to describe a "seat, society, or sect", and "Sanhedrin" means "council or assembly", not seat or society. This is grasping at straws. 52:42 You've still yet to say whether or not the Holocaust happened, despite me reaching out directly. 52:52 "Ur" does not mean "Sun" in Irish, nor does it mean "earth or soil" in Hebrew. 53:21 I explicitly address Penulus and even offer some insight on Carthaginian/Celtiberian relations. Another lie. 53:22 What is this even from? I've looked up three of the words in Old Irish dictionaries and none of them appear."
Stop digging out stuff on the strength of 1 tartarian YTuber who is probably the most out there of them all there are plenty who show things clearly no arty farty shit and if you can't see the discrepancies then you are either asleep or part of the cover up I would like to think it's the former but by your ,, debunking style,, so I'm leaning to the latter . Clever though go for the kookiest 1 and try to roast him any way no one claims to know exactly what occurred but there is definitely something to it and by your long winded ,,response,, why did you not say any of this to man when he was on like I said people are waking up wether you like it or not and something smells rank.
@@noyb5277 He pointed out one part of mind unveiled's video that implied Jewish people are faked. And if mind unveiled doesn't want to be come off as a holocaust denier his response to being asked if the holocaust happened shouldn't be "I don't know I'll have to research it". He's either playing dumb or is historically ignorant about a pretty major modern event, both are bad looks.
@@TheLoreLodgeyep, read and internalize. Very deeply internalize. Like way in the back of your mind so it’s a problem exclusive to your subconscious. Edit; you and Isaiah (my name is also Isaiah) have been my entire UA-cam and Spotify attention span for months now lol
I always find conspiracy theories about history interesting as a history teacher. ... like I had to study what makes a historical argument and all of them seem to just want the world to be more mysterious and that they have found a hidden truth but without the care or logic of the real world... And real world history is already weird and cool so it's kind of sad.
Next April fools day you should do a tartar history lesson and dress up the class room with boards with red yarn on them with the most incoherent stuff on them lol
Agreed. They seem to want history to be simultaneously way more complex (with all the the conspiracies and cover ups for unclear reasons that they assure folks are happening) and way simpler (so many of these seem to involve one super civilisation, makes it easier to think you know all history when you don't have to deal with myriad different cultures I guess).
tbf it mostly comes from the fact that we've walk the earth for solong we seen lived and spoke to neanderthals and denosovans (however its spelt) and our brains ain't changed .So there is so much history we will never know but historians/archeologist just pass it over and say nothing really happened .With sea rise and how humans still live by rivers n seas we could easily had complete Civ's rise n fall under the waves. Also my issue is when we look at old stoneage buildings most of the time we see the marks left by the wood posts and its just a slightly darker bit o dirt so how would u see a 15,000 year old wood postholes from a village that was took under water 12,000 years ago when tepi was filled in with dirt and the waters rose and rivers changed paths
You do realize your canned over generalized view of history would come into conflict with most historians doing the real research right? All you do is regurgitate what you are paid to regurgitate The books you use to "teach" kids were owned and operated by Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwells father. The same Ghislaine that was the procurrer of children for epstein. Fruit for thought for someone who clearly dont know what they don't know
@@joshsimpson10 @joshsimpson10 what real research? What do you mean by that? Going to the sites and finding evidence and making claims based on evidence? Citing primarily sources written by people of the time? Cross-referencing them with other sources to get a better picture of people living at the time? What do you mean by any of this? Like sure. Hate om the creepy pedophile woman all you want but If you would like to disprove a history book or make claims about a mythical civilization you need evidence beyond what has been produced in favor of it. I have been to Rome, to civil war battlefields, to Normandy and other locations of history. I have seen the scars left by artillery, I have seen the uniforms, the testimony of people who stood where I stood and paid the ultimate price... where humans of flesh and blood once lived and loved and hated and died. ... I take my studies of history seriously. I have tried to give tartara a chance but to paraphrase a quote I heard a long time ago "that which is presented as fact without evidence can be dismissed as fiction without evidence."
This has been an absolute amazing dismantling. Unfortunately, mind unveiled will almost CERTAINLY just rebuttal with “ everything you cited is faked and apart of the cover up.” However, anyone who is a rational thinker will certainly see that you are correct here, and that’s all you can really do.
Yeah at this point I don’t care. He lost. His “response” was just him taking me out of context, I presented evidence he can’t possibly refute, and he refused to do a live debate. Anyone rational would see this as a massive L for him.
I mean, when someone claims that the whole point of Freemasonry is and always has been belief in a Christian god, that they have never had an interest in the occult, and has ALSO said you can't be Christian and into the occult, yes Aiden has said all of these easily disproveable things, it does smell of some sort of masking.
@@jeremyt4292 I actually have never said any of those things. I said Freemasonry sprouted from Christianity (since we’re traditionally the successors of the Templars, this is factual); you have to be Christian to be a Templar. I never said there was no Masonic interest in the occult, just that the occult is not central to freemasonry. I also said you can’t be a practicing Christian and practicing occultist, which is true because the Bible bans practicing the occult; a Christian who practices the occult is by definition deliberately not following Christ, and therefore not a Christian.
@@TheLoreLodge how do you explain the practice of Kabbalah then? The Torah and Bible are the same book, yet people of Jewish faith are generally encouraged to study the mystical teachings in Kabbalah.
@@TheLoreLodge secondly, I would expect a student of History to be aware that there have been many schools of Christian mysticism, as well as Christian Gnostics, and as a Mason I'd think you'd be aware that these philosophies were- and still are to some degree- an important aspect of Freemasonry.
@@capitalisa it is amusing. It's almost as amusing as believing in a magical mud flood and that all world history is wrong and only YOU know the truth!
@honestkyn718 you say that like gobekli tepe wasn't just unburied in 1994 or ancient Rome didn't start getting unburied about 100 yrs and there's miles and miles of underground tunnels and cities built on top of others
I don’t think Mind Unveiled will because he is saying Aiden is bullying him… because Aiden is making him look like a fool with straight facts and sources and while UV has a 2 hour “he’s making me feel bad pls defend me :(“ video filled with easily debunked misinformation.
@@AnonNonaA”straight facts” ?? ur serious? This dude completely disregards a lot of facts kid. history is all bs and u all believe it without doing actual research. u all just want to be comfortable in what u have bin taught and refuse to question the complete lack of evidence in what u have bin taught. All u people are doing is saying “if he said he’s a professional, that’s good enough for me 🤷🏼♂️👍🏼” ur not looking at the real world or real facts. ur accepting the nonsense narrative we’ve all bin spoon fed and acting like people that question nonsense are delusional 🤦🏼♂️ that’s sad.
I'm impressed and I salute the Lore Lodge. I went from critiquing and not enjoying in this channels conception, and early on. I even said you guys aren't important enough for a mailbomb, when you made a joke about it, but now, like I said, truly impressed, and I enjoy the content. Bravo my guys
I'm honestly suprised at how nice Aidan was. The streams made me a little curious of just how petty we were getting. Personally i vote more petty. show us the degree again lol
As much as I can appreciate drama from time to time, this was probably the better route for him to have taken. I personally found his, uh, disposition during the streams quite amusing, but I can understand why some people might’ve not taken it that way. So playing it safe was probably a smart move. imo, Aidan won this “argument” either way, but taking the proverbial high road by not directly insulting MU does kinda make him seem like the better person in this situation.
26:22 Anecdotal, but the Shriners and their involvement with hospitals is the reason why I'm alive and doing yoga right now listening to this video in the background. When I was a teen in the mid 2000s, I had development problems with my skeletal structure that was so severe, they had to fly me out of state to get a 5 hour surgery done on me. Got the metal rods in my back and scarring to prove it. If I hadn't done it, my spine would have crushed my lungs over time as I got older. At the time I had no understanding of different religions or different groups. But when I visited the hospitals, they had beanie baby toys that kids could take, and there were old guys in interesting hats walking around chatting with parents and kids while we waited for our x-rays or whatever. While I was waiting for my room to be admitted too, there was even an aquarium with pretty fish to look at. It was the first and only time I flew out of state, and I remember seeing all kinds of different kids of all ages, all with different chronic medical issues that were getting treatment through the Shriners Hospitals. I don't know how much overlap they have with "bad" things, but yeah. My family at the time was religious (some form of Christianity, idk,) my great grandpa was a priest. But none of my family spoke poorly of other religions or beliefs. So yeah. Not that this matters, but I just wanted to put this story out there.
I think people are looking for something- anything, they can have a niche on UA-cam, get a bunch of views and make some money. They just have to state “we’ve been lied to” along with all the other talking points they always use, and voila, they have a lucrative business. They’ll ride the wave until the next big conspiracy.
You go guys!!! Your research is ALWAYS well very well done and I pity the fool that wants to challenge you!!! You can take on any point and any criticism and give a well spoken, well researched, and extremely well done response!!! I love history, and I really love your channel! Just keep it up, forget the idiot critics, and just keep doing what your doing!
One of the things that I like about you is your arrogant, cocksure attitude and humor. This seems to consistently be backed up with your research skills and thoroughness. Add to this your seeming dedication to using your platform for larger moral purposes from time to time. NOW I learn that you are amongst the rarest of human beings in that you are self-aware and capable of applying your talents towards self-improvement. Not that you asked, but that last bit completes my personal appraisal of you as being firmly on the side of the "good". Convictions can ruin a person and are only marginally more seductive than certainty. Folks who prove capable of putting both of them to the test AND prove to have the strength of character to change whatever breaks are what we need. Thank you. Don't get too humble btw.....
Bro, same. Never heard of them, thought I should at least check him out to see both sides of the story and was astonished how dumb people could be. You would think with flat earth believers it couldn't get any worse and but It just got worse.
Nah I used to be a nihilist and now I refuse to lose hope on humanity. We will get through this, it’ll take a lot of work, getting people like that educated, getting the communist to see how much worse it is than what we got while addressing and holding those in power, stop the corruption and then make a way it can’t happen again. Probably start with lobbying and holding corporations back from becoming monopolies. Revamping the education system in general I mean 1-5 adults in America can’t read or do math and I believe my conspiracy is both sides in US have been bought and manipulated by idk who foreign counties, corporations cause it’s an amalgamation of each side putting acts in like no child left behind that push’s people through the system. Not gun reform but watching people and stopping them who are unhinged and giving veteran jobs to protect schools and places. Things will get better, they probably just have to get a lot worse before they can get better.
When my left leg got 3rd degree burns and needed skin grafting the shriners heard my story in a local paper one flew me to thier hospital in Cincinnati and paid for it all, the man who flew me there even gave my mom money to get us new shoes as they were tattered and falling apart, amazing people
@@Inverted.surfer yes 4rth degree if it even a classified condition would be flesh burnt completely away which they cut and scrape off of you till they get to the 3rd degree portion it will never heal and needs to take large amounts of my skin from other parts of my body to cover, it can never heal but can still mostly be used
@@Inverted.surfer my nickname is rusty Shackleford lol I too like a good conspiracy however one should always be careful what cup of kool-aid they decide to drink from
Very well done. Addressing the points one by one until you've made your point is important - saying "This is easy to look up so I'm not going to talk about it" is a strategy used by conspiracy theorists, because they know the lazy folks won't do it. I also really liked you addressing what primary sources you were using. Excellent video, better than part one for sure.
I’d just like to say my dad was a mason as was my uncle, my grandfather and great grandfather, to my knowledge my father was definitely not an evil satanist and I’m confident that none of my paternal line were either , Scottish Protestants absolutely, I’m a non practicing Scottish Protestant myself
He threatened to copyright strike you if you used any clips of his video... Meaning he's admitting to file false copyright claims against fair use laws and UA-cam's TOS... That tells me all I need to know about mind unveiled...
Personally speaking, I never thought you came off as arrogant. You just seem confident in what you're talking about. I mean when you're not you always point out that you're not. That's a decency that not a lot of these documentary style youtube channels give us.
Is it just me, or is it a little gaslighty to say you’re being condescending to him? Like… they’re basically saying you’re being disrespectful to him, as if his theories should be treated with respect and on equal footing with the collective accepted history of the world. Like I’m sorry but no, you gave up your right to respect long ago when you said church steeples collected atmospheric energy from the sky.
@@Error_4x5 Tbh it's also possible the Tartaria guy has some sort of untreated mental illness and genuinely believes some of the insane stuff he's spouting. In which case I mostly feel bad.
Theories should absolutely not be respected until they’re proven true. There’s no logic or coherence behind the tartaria theory. He just doesn’t want anyone asking questions or poking holes in his ideas because he knows he’s deceiving people with a very flimsy fable.
you're so lost you don't even realize what's up or down. I can't believe you really think you know any better than anyone else. i guess everyone needs somebody to make them feel less small. there are no objective fact, get over yourself, and then do some research, obviously you've never been outside of mommy house or you'd know. look up piezoelectric generators or triboelectric nanogenerators. I truly hope one day you guys grow a brain and decide to make your own mind up about things instead of happily swallowing another man's opinion while he pats you on the head. "hYuCk, the uGlY fAt gUy wItH tHe gLaSsEs sAiD a fuNnY, hE iS tHe oNlY sOuRcE oF tRuth"
As someone who loves watching and reading all things history iv really enjoyed all the vids u have made. I can also really appreciated all the time u spend researching and compiling the content to give us very informative and truthful vids. People should be more thankful for free things in life. Keep up the good vids. Many thanks from Ireland.
So thrilled to find a channel providing a voice of reason. I am over 50 so I learned how to critically think by reading books and going to college. As much as I love the internet, these crazy revisionist history channels (Tartaria, flat earth etc..) are doing the exact same thing they accuse others of doing, rewriting history. It's the modern day equivalent of book burning.
Why is the phrase "think critically" always applied in situations where they are disproving people asking questions that go against what they were taught? That sounds like critical thinning to me. Thinking critically, and looking at something twice rather than just accepting it at face value. Call me stupid, but I don't believe asking a question makes you dumb. At worst it makes you uneducated, but never dumb. Also, for mind unveiled case, he's not rewriting anything, he's bringing up ideas that aren't usually thought of before. How is that harmful in any way?
@@nirvanafan849 I think you're right and one thing I loved about the internet from the beginning was the free flow of information. I was a network engineer (1998) running servers in downtown LA via a private network (T1 line) to New Jersey, no one was connected to the internet but I connected us and used it every single day. People back then were saying the internet was a fad, but anyone under 50 at that time, understood it. Having a free forum where people can share information worldwide is extraordinary. I tend to think the youngest generation today has an exceptional ability to discern the truth and so I take back my previous comment and tip my hat to yours.
Third degree KC here and that's not entirely true about why the Knights of Columbus were founded. It was actually originally founded in 1882 by Father Michael J. McGivney as a mutual benefits society for working class catholic men to provide benefits to their families in case they died young, which was a very common occurrence for working class catholic men and no government support structures existed at the time. To this day, it still provides life insurance to its members.
I can attest to the street raising thing. The town I’m from was settled in 1784, and when my parents bought a building on Main Street and we were checking out the basement, I noticed a door and a couple windows that were all boarded and nailed shut. When I asked why, my dad told me about street raising (which I never knew about). Given the time period the building was built (at least the early 1800’s), and it being built next to the Susquehanna River, it made sense. Tartarianism takes so many mental gymnastics I can’t believe you were able to form it into a cohesive video
That's Epic, I have always felt compelled to pursue knowledge and power in order to contribute to the betterment of humanity. Been seeking a means to be influential and find out more knowledge about the human race and about the things not everyone is destined to know. I wish to fulfill the goal of enlightenment passed down by our forebears...
I can totally relate to your passion, if all that is what you desire then i think it's achievable. Joining the Illuminatus Brotherhood can lead to the enlightenment you seek and more. I am well aware that the idea of this group may sound mythical but it is possible to join.
@@haynesatteh4463 Yeah I acknowledge that misunderstanding can occur when people encounter what they don't fully grasp, especially in this internet era. The Illuminatus advocates for the acceptance of all religions. You can look up "Anthony Szymon". Will give you clarity and answers to any questions you might have.
So hilariously, I was making a new minecraft world, and wanted to break away from the "Cottage core" or "quaint mideval Village" theme i normally go with..... my world is now called Tartaria and im doing half burried Neo-Gothic archetechtural Ruins. Thanks Aidan!!!
You are probably one of the more open to speculate historians and I appreciate it. As some historians can get a bit annoying when they go from calling something "anomalous and unlikely" to "truth beyond all truths" after they find like... A journal. It's clear that every historian has their own theories and I love that I can trust to hear yours.
I really appreciate you calling out antisemitism in conspiracy theories. I find stuff like this interesting to learn about but it so often delves into blatantly antisemitic rhetoric and so many people just gloss over it or ignore it
I’m really glad he does too, I grew up hearing a lot of conspiracies so the antisemitism tends to just go right over my head. I’m unlearning it fortunately, but others calling it out is a big help
It's tragically easy to ignore the anti-semitism, because it's always so lazily shoehorned into the conspiracy theories. Every single time, it's like, the person finishes making up their grand conspiracy, then remembered they forgot to toss the jews in somewhere.
“Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it” These alternate history conspiracy truthers are such a blackhole to argue against and you’re doing fantastic work here. I’d love to see a video on these alternate history conspiracies as a phenomenon and what, to their believers, constitutes evidence and truth-considering the general disdain for historical context and primary sources
Great video! It's nice to see someone trained in this stuff come out with provable facts. The amount of misinformation and vitriol (aka rampant antisemitism) in the comments of part 1 was so depressing to see. I don't know why they can't just make all the Tartaria stuff into a nice alternate history tale, instead of spreading lies online.
What's the wildest to me about these theories is that instead of attributing it to the Native Americans who we know already inhabited North American and were capable of amazing cultures like in the Mississipian area, they want to make up TarTaria 🫠 I don't think the Native Americans had flying cars or anything wild, but bigger populations in areas like by the Mississippi(STL/Cahokia) and by the Great Lakes(Chicago) isn't too crazy of an idea. Thank you for the great video Lore Lodge 😁
I'm very happy you mentioned the different architectual styles. As someone who has to study this for university, like boy, it's all so different and distinct.
So, as a Knight of Columbus, I need to make mention of our long-standing history as a life insurance provider. The whole secret society angle is secondary to that and the charitable donations. The church might want us to be the Pepsi to Free Masonry's Coke, but internally we consider ourselves to be Pepsi while the Masons are tomato soup. Similar in only the most superficial of terms. Sorry for editorializing in the comments, I just don't like when we get compared because we're so radically different.
I was wondering about this when Adian mentioned the Knights so dismissively. I love his work but he gets mean when he is heated I have found. Thank you for chipping in with your knowledge and view point!
@kingmaximus2374 Nah, he ain't being mean about it. We get that a lot. People also think the church runs us, but we're an independent Catholic organization. Secret society means that you can't answer a ton of questions.
Not only did the Tartarians not need to eat or need toilets. They also built all the sewers in the cities that were already here. The sewers they wouldn't have needed because they didn't use toilets.
This reminds me of Carl Sagan obliterating Velikovsky. With the help of people like you, maybe Tartaria will be as obscure a historical oddity in the future.
Velikovsky was right except that the crust didn't shift as he thought. The entire earth expanded. We know this now along with many other facts we didn't have decades ago. The ocean floor age map alone is enough to make plate tectonics laughable at best.
@@Spectre-wd9dl I couldn't find much of anything that he got right with supporting evidence. Some phenomena he proposed do seem like lucky guesses that he could have potentially proven and been credited for, if he approached them with reproducible research methods.
@@Spectre-wd9dl "The ocean floor age map alone is enough to make plate tectonics laughable at best." How so? All the maps I've seen show ocean floor increasing in age from mid-ocean ridges toward continents, exactly as plate tectonics predicts.
One point I would like to see addressed is the detailed explanation of how the logistics of building some of the larger structures was undertaken especially those that have officially documented timeframes of 1-2 years. Structures built in the 1860-1880 timeline (even if they no longer exist) and of which we have surviving photographs can be analysed as to the volume and weight of the materials (frequently weighing several tons) that had to be transported from quarries miles from the building site on dirt roads by teams of horses pulling carts. This can further be broken down into the number of trips required to deliver the goods, the number of horses needed per trip and the rest periods needed for the horses between trips due to the exertion of hauling heavy loads which increases the overall pool of horses needed. Once an approx number of horses required is established then the feed and water needed on a daily basis to maintain the horses can be accurately forecast (each working horse needing 15-20 gallons of water and approx 2.5% of its bodyweight in feed per day) along with the workers and infrastructure required to maintain just the transportation of materials to the building site. The weather is also a factor as any reasonable downpour would render the dirt roads useless when carting building materials, primary sources from newspapers often contain information re the weather so the number of days lost could be approximated. The number of workers needed to provide the basic needs of feeding and watering (including delivery of) the horse could also be added to the number of men needed to construct the building. Therefore using the above process logistical data could be supplied to experts in civil engineering to make a judgement on the feasibility of the construction given the geography and population of the city, the number of workers needed in both the transportation and construction stage and the timeline provided. I live in a city in Australia that in 1864 had a population of approx 120,000 and photos of this period show that despite one cathedral no building exceeds three floors in height and are very basic in their construction (ie rectangle brick buildings without columns, domes and cavernous interiors) therefore I do find it puzzling that some US cities in the same period with 60,000 citizens have libraries and town halls etc that not only dwarf our buildings but are incredibly ornate and built in such short timeframes, particularly so soon after the civil war which would have greatly reduced any excess manpower available.
Not all stereoscopic pictures are copied! I don’t know how long ago the cameras that take them were invented, but it’s essentially two cameras in one, taking the picture from slightly different angles. If they were identical, you wouldn’t see a 3D image, since your eyes see slightly different angles of your surroundings, and the differences between the angels are what makes depth perception possible!
One more comment from me... My husband and I actually rebuilt a carpenter gothic home. Including modern made (i.e., to code) gothic windows. I hope that in hundreds of years, it really confuses people.
I do OSINT (open source intelligence) research on the side, so regarding Tineye and Google Lens at around 14 minutes in: I personally rely on Yandex if I'm trying to find the specific source of an image, because they tend to trawl places like forums and seedier parts of the Internet, and Google Lens if I don't know if the source exists but I'd like to identify what the image is (like if I have a picture of scenery or old buildings). If you're keen on learning more about reverse image searching stuff, Bellingcat has fantastic guides on it as well as case studies of themselves using it.
He's full of shit. I wish he wasn't. Or would enlighten me. I'm a Master Mason, 32nd degree Scottish rite Mason and a knight's Templar (York rite mason). I joined to learn the history. Hidden or otherwise. I've dug really hard.
As an amateur photographer, it's remarkable to me that Mind Unveiled will look at small blurs in 1800s photographs and see those as evidence of doctoring, yet trot out obviously doctored images of blimps moving buildings and call them the real deal 😂
It also annoys me how Tartarians act so pompous. They're like "do you really believe that people could have built this stone building that would have required some effort" and then not give any reasons to why it couldn't be built.
I just have to say, it's so refreshing to have someone pronounce Worcester correctly ;u; I dunno if you're local, or if you just go hard on the research (I mean, it's obvious that you do a TON of research because you are on point with the facts, but its so unusual that documentarians actually say that city name right i have to point it out) but I appreciate it and that sort of attention to detail makes me like your vids that much more.
Aidan, do you think there's a possibility you could be able to send me a link to where did you buy that sooo God damn beautiful cross on your God damn beautiful manchest? I couldn't get into having a necklace for years, I couldn't find anything for myself, and this has my eyes locked in it for months, and if it's possible, I would really love to get one...
9:37 I was born and raised in Sacramento, CA. For those unfamiliar with the capitol city of The Golden State it is located in a valley west of Donner Pass and the Truckee Lake area, east of San Francisco, and has two major rivers running though it (The Sacramento River and The American River). The two rivers meet a short distance north of downtown Sacramento. Just east of the Sacramento River and west of Interstate 5 lies Old Sacramento. A national/state park and historical area. Cobble stone streets and raised wooden walk ways instead of asphalt roads and concrete sidewalks. Much like would have been found in the Victorian-era "Old West". Of note is the fact that the buildings there (unlike the most buildings in the state) have basements, lots of them. With outdoors stairways leading to entry doors for some businesses in said basements. Those basements have windows and doors much like what is pictured in the photos shown on screen. Sacramento is a flood plain. It flooded on the regular every spring with heavy rainfall and snow melt causing the rivers to rise and flood the valley. It's why central CA is such great farm land. After some particularly bad flooding in the 1880s the city government basically buried the city up to the second story of all the buildings already in existence and they built the first levees in the area. The second floor became the new street level. It's all documented, but I suppose that Tartarians would claim that Sacramento was another "mud flood" location and that Americans just moved in and dug everything up and moved in.
@@TheLoreLodge Can't really debate someone who is 95% emotion. That other 5% is their finishing move of calling anything they don't agree with a lie or coverup.
Wow............just WOW! As someone who's been a Union Ironworker for the past 14 years, to hear someone say that "We don't build buildings, they've always been here and we dug them up as a form of recycling" is just so nonsensical, ridiculous, and utterly stupid that I'm honestly not even the least bit surprised. I mean, holy s^^^ man, is the Matrix collapsing in on itself right now or what?
Love your vids bro. Super knowledgeable on history, and one of the very few streamers I don't find myself picking apart discrepancies like dates and names or sources. Mind Unveiled is more or less just fringe theories which can be fun to ponder, but its when they push that narrative it becomes not good.
Ah well, cathedrals didn't typically take several centuries to complete. 50 to 150 years is a more realistic timeframe for most. St. Peter's Cathedral in Rome for instance was completed within roughly 130 years. (Ok, technically it is a basilica, but that's for liturgical reasons. To the best of my knowledge it is the biggest Catholic church ever built.) The Cathedral of Florence took around 140 years to be built. So yes, these were quite monumentous constructions, and given the technologies of their time periods building them within usually several decades is an impressive achievement in itself. In most cases it could have been done quite a bit faster but as these buildings required highly specialized craftsmen this would have been far too expensive. Construction periods of more than 200 years are fairly rare. There are some examples, of course, and in most of these cases construction had to abandonded for external reasons: Wars, cities running out of money, an outbreak of the plague, that sort of thing. Sometimes also the entire construction had to be replanned because architectural preferences had changed. The only example of a Cathedral that literally took several centuries to complete that I can think right away is in Cologne in Germany. In that case, construction was abandoned for roughly 300 years, and it wasn't finished until 1880. There are probably some others, although Cologne is unique in that very lengthy construction period.
1:37:07 love ur historical deep dives but was so thrown listening to this because i was half expecting to hear u go on w ‘on dasher, on prancer, on donner and blitzen’ 🤣💜
I'm very glad you did these videos. The Mind Unveiled videos are like candy to me because they're so entertaining, and yet they have such a downside because people in the comments believe all of this as fact! It would be great if the creators of the MU videos were presenting them as fiction and clear about it because they're so imaginative and would make great scifi/fantasy novels. Their music is great too. It's a shame they're wasting their talents on encouraging people into breaking with reality.
I disagree with your claim regarding how we acquire historical narratives which are generally accepted. The issue pertains to the fact that most times, these theories and studies must get approval, so inherently a lot of them are biased to begin with. This is seen in many studies done which were supported through funding by the US Government and Congress. I am not saying it is intentional, but the immense human bias limits a lot of validity to much of the history we do think we know, and a lot of these studies should be redone.
@@lauren_winsteadcorrect, just like our medical system. People refuse to acknowledge it though, because they’d have to take a hard look at what they believe vs what they actually know, which is next to nothing. Most of us are just running around trying to confirm our own biases with no experience that gives us actual knowledge 🙃
Don't forget the things from history that they don't tell. The Bosnian pyramids for example. As soon as mainstream acknowledges it, it will change history completely. But it will destroy 'science' consensus 😊
Wow...I literally just tapped on the yt thumbnail. Instantly hooked. I wasn't going to listen to it, especially 2 hours worth of dialogue.. But was totally onboard within 5 minutes. You tore him a new a**opening... Brilliant. Thank you for actual history...
Did I just watch 3 hours worth of debunking video for Tataria conspiracy that I didn't know existed without doing my homework? yes... yes I did. Do I regret it? Nope.
I listen to this channel while im at work. So i do love the longer videos, helps kill more time for me. But you've given these people waaay to much attention. It is nice to hear you systematically destroy their theories, but people like that thrive on any kind of attention thats thrown their way.
What I find very interesting is the amount of locations that I've lived near or at and that were supposedly Tartarian, so can I call myself a Tartarian now, seems like the logic they use, so if they are validated so am I. Maybe I can get a scholarship or something.
1:43:06 to my limited understanding of church law, being a mason results in denial of communion (result is an important verb, you are not "denied" communion by a priest, you become incapable or receiving it) due to the incompatibility of Catholic and Mason theology, Masons believe in an unknowable universal architect, and many lodges do not recognise christianity as "the" truth (although, as far as I understand it, this varies from lodge to lodge). The Church also claims incompatibility with the initiatic and esoteric nature of Freemasonry. Again, to my understanding they appreciate the charity and the philanthropy, but cannot agree on the theology behind it. This is not a case of the Catholic Church being evil for no reason, but an explainable difference in belief
I'm very new to the channel, and I love how bro covers and debunks the most bat shit insane theories and historical fiction I've never heard of. Seriously, I thought Flerfs were confidently wrong but this Mind Unveiled guy is on a whole another level, and he has the gall to call you smug.
This was excellently done, and I appreciate your emotional restraint, lol. I know that must have been taxing at times. Good for you sticking to the facts (and a few jokes)! 👍
Great job bro I love this, not gonna mind unveiled really made this sound legit. So thank you for clearing it up and setting the record straight. Keep up the great work ❤❤❤❤
It’s hilarious to me that in this day and age, people still make preposterous claims and expect not to get eviscerated by someone more well-researched sooner or later.
I love how you put people in their place after accusing you of crap. Nicely done. I also love how you say obviously/of course as if non historians know what you're about to tell us. 😅
The appearance of the “Tartarian Empire” on some old maps is tied to a combination of historical misunderstandings, European ethnocentrism, and the limited knowledge of distant regions during the time these maps were created. 1. European Misconceptions: • In the medieval and early modern periods, European mapmakers had limited and often inaccurate information about the vast regions of Central and Northern Asia. The term “Tartary” or “Tartaria” was used by Europeans as a broad label for the vast, largely unknown regions of Asia, encompassing what we now know as Siberia, Central Asia, and sometimes parts of East Asia. The people in these regions were often referred to as “Tartars” (or “Tatars”), a term that originally applied to specific nomadic groups but was generalized by Europeans to describe a variety of peoples across Asia. 2. Mongolian Empire: • The Mongol Empire, which reached its height in the 13th and 14th centuries under leaders like Genghis Khan and his successors, was the largest contiguous empire in history. However, as the empire fragmented and eventually dissolved, European knowledge of the region became even more fragmented. The term “Tartary” continued to be used as a catch-all for the vast regions once under Mongol control, regardless of the actual political entities that existed. 3. Tartary as a Geographic Label: • “Tartary” was not a unified empire in the sense of a single, centralized state. Instead, it was a geographic term used to describe a vast area inhabited by various tribes and states, some of which were successors or remnants of the Mongol Empire. Over time, as knowledge improved, the term fell out of use and was replaced by more accurate names reflecting the actual political and ethnic realities of the region, such as the Mongol Empire, the Russian Empire in Siberia, and the various khanates in Central Asia. 4. Persistence in Cartography: • The persistence of the term “Tartary” on maps well into the 18th century reflects both the slow spread of updated information and the enduring nature of older geographical concepts. Even as more accurate maps were developed, the older terms and labels lingered, especially in European maps, which often reflected a mix of old knowledge and newer discoveries. In summary, the use of “Tartarian Empire” on old maps instead of “Mongolian Empire” reflects the Eurocentric and often inaccurate understanding of Asia during the time when these maps were made. It was a term used by Europeans to describe a vast and largely unknown region, rather than an accurate reflection of the political and cultural realities of the area.
I don't comment a lot, but this was seriously awesome. I really appreciate the sheer amount of research you do into your videos. Every topic you've covered that I've personally delved into was extremely well researched and very accurate. Keep up the great work.
Wait, tartarians are breatharians? I thought he said before that the food they ate made them not need to use bathrooms or something? Did i imagine that?
I appreciate the dedication to going through point by point and just bodying the entire narrative. Some people just really want to believe that the world is a more interesting place than they think it is, despite there being plenty of cool things they could learn about if they put in the effort to find the right resources.
I live in Chicago myself in one of these major city’s Tartiaria was apart of, and I see for myself all the random beautiful old world buildings , some unexplainable with no history of the builders themselves or payroll and barely any construction photos, (if there are it’s already completeled) meaning these buildings were already here. I’m not saying we know everything cause we don’t but there’s certainly truth in this . Let’s learn about our story , not HIS-story . The winners . rulers/gods (small g)
@TheLoreLodge hey aiden I know this is probably outside your wheelhouse but I feel it's very close. I'm from Georgia and have seen what I believe to be 2 mountain lions in person. That to me is not very weird but what is is the us wildlife service has repeatedly denied the existence of mountain lions in the southeast United States including the Appalachians. While there is plenty of video evidence to the contrary in places like Tennessee. Just curious if you could look into why they deny it so hard when it seems like it could be plausible and if it were true would have no bearing on the govt from what I can tell? Are they just dumb?
@TheLoreLodge hey cool that you replied , well I hope maybe you can help explain these fires too in the city’s not only in America but around the world happening around the 1800s early 1900s. And also the photos of the aftermath does not look like a fire caused by accident like a cow knocking over a laturn , they look like explosives or bombs . No different then photos of city’s during WW2 .
Thank you. Hands down the best knowledge of Celtic history and I wasn't even aware that you are a freemason. I was actually fooled by earlier Tartaria stuff a few years ago. This was when people (russians) were designing astrology software and users tried to confirm Newton's dates for solar eclipses and they were unable. This only proved that I need to be careful about the astrology software I purchase. Not sure that it indicates multiple timelines and a multiverse.
After finishing the video did the thing in the beginning but been follower for awhile now but I gotta tell ya I will always be watching your content love how passionate and indepth with research and use research and the why and reasoning etc but keep going for I will forever watch every video!
I hate to say it, but who actually believes you can live off air alone go ahead and try I dare you, I'll make sure you get the trophy for the Darwin awards, it's a very distinguished trophy for those of the most witted minds.
If you feel like losing braincells, just to look up the atrocity guide video on breatharians. At least three people tried to prove it, and one of them even bloged about it. Wisely, she stopped after a few days or weeks.
Please please do a podcast on the titanic! I think your research on what happened and the court enquiries both American and British would be so kool. I know it has nothing to do with occult but it's definitely a big historical moment.
1:23:35 I live in Utah, a bit farther north than Salt Lake City. The sky here just looks that way sometimes. It's because the whole valley is a bowl and when clouds get stuck in the bowl the sky looks like a blank greyish canvas.
@@jackbishop8610 Yeah lot of people dont know much about any given scientific thing, and such, but that would be impossible for everyone. Thats why people go to study specific fields, and spends their life doing that. Although as consept carbon dating seems simple enough i think, but obviously as layman i dont know every detail about it. What little i do know carbon isotopes or whatever they are called start decaying so you can estimate somethings age by looking at the decay to certain point
Have you seen Young Earth Creationists talk about carbon dating? It's insanely easy to dismiss anything scientific on the grounds that you only have the word of "experts" who are "in on it" or being duped themselves, after all, "how can they know that this rock is a million years old? Was someone there a million years ago watching it form? No!"
For any curious, here's the copy of my comment listing all of the lies in his "response" video, in which he doesn't actually respond to my arguments but instead misrepresents them and argues with the straw man he's built. Timestamps are for his response, not this video:
"I'll be updating this comment as I watch. I had hoped you'd be honest, but instead it's quite clear you have no intention of engaging in good faith. Here's a list of your lies.
For the record, I say the name of your channel and I show the art for it at less than 90 seconds into my video. Why did you lie about that?
Also, why pitch my voice up? Yet another lie.
You also lied about me asking Reddit. Go look, it's under the heading "Good Tartaria UA-cam Channels?"
You also claim that I always use clickbait titles to rationally explain away conspiracies, for example the National Parks one at 12:54, which I can very easily see you did not watch, because I conclude that the NPS is hiding the Wendigo.
In this clip, you have a passage on screen downright denying the Jews are actually the Jews: clips.twitch.tv/PiercingHealthyEagleJonCarnage-HrgO5olvmYOO5S4a
You claim I don't debunk the World's Fair issue, but I very clearly explain in my video that there will be a part 2 addressing these sorts of claims.
And then there's the image of the Plant Museum, which you claim in your original is only provided in low quality by the museum website, but they have right here in high def: www.plantmuseum.com/getattachment/Exhibits/Permanent-Collection/Hotel-Construction/2006-016-002_TBH1889(007).jpg.aspx;
You claim that I said that you said the World's Fair buildings couldn't be constructed today, but what I said was that Tartaria Truthers believe we couldn't build Roman stuff today.
You claim I said I don't know what old world buildings means, but what I actually said, was that I'm not sure what they mean by "buildings we can't recreate". Once again, you lied.
You say I left out your great fire arguments, but I plainly said that I was only covering the second half of your video and would address the first in a part 2. You have lied again.
Secret Societies are also coming in Part II, and yet you claim I addressed them. I did not. I simply said you included them in your definition. I will be doing so, and that will be up next week. Yet another lie.
I know the history of Freemasonry way, way, way, way better than you. I know numerous 32nd degree masons personally, and will be interviewing a 33rd this summer. Another lie.
You say you don't think I'm a real mason. Here I am in Pennsylvania Freemason back in Autumn: issuu.com/pr263/docs/fm_novemberfall_2022 Hope your followers understand the implication of you not being able to find that out.
It's also not as simple as "just signing up at a lodge" and the fact that you don't know that is...honestly not surprising at this point. I've actually been on a board of inquiry, thank you very much.
You say that I misrepresented you by not faithfully explaining the structure of your video. I very bluntly said I was only covering the second half, and would get to the first half later. In fact, you deliberately edited out what I said just beforehand: ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxlvhwfoZP9rYVj3gpEjDHeOIiiW4JZ9n5 You're a liar.
You know full well that Tartary and Tartaria are used interchangeably and this is all just linguistic differences between maps in French, English, Latin, and Italian.
Additionally, I'm thirty minutes into this and you've yet to actually argue with a single point I made, just noted that I didn't argue with certain things.
I didn't dismiss alternative theories on the origin of the word Tartar. We have primary sources on this, and I used them.
An aside, I see through your saccharine attitude. You deliberately take my words out of context, use screencaps where I look silly, and gloss over my points.
You accuse me of appealing to authority, and yet your only evidence is the work of MacDari and Donnelly. I cite primary sources. You're the one appealing to authority.
You say I don't delve into anything from the book, but I directly address multiple claims from the book in my video. Once again, a lie.
You say that I hastily concluded that Conor MacDari and Ignatius Donnelly are the only sources. I don't I said they're the only people you cite.
You say I claim their work is invalid because they aren't historians, but I actually directly refute their claims. A lie.
Citing Fomenko without any criticism or explanation of his beliefs is an appeal to authority. A bad authority, but an authority.
Our response omits Tsarion because you didn't mention him in the second half of the video, which is what we said we covered. A lie by omission.
The dictionary you use after that segment is from the 18th century or later, because it includes the word "tattoo". This word did not enter European languages until after the age of exploration.
46:08 Well, guess we're back to it. I didn't dismiss Donnelly as a theosophist, I dismissed him based on his points about Ireland lacking any evidence.
46:26 As I said in my video, this was done using your video, which did not dive deeply into the arguments of Donnelly and MacDari (who I'm sure you know is the American occultist John Geran). I did refute the stuff you did explain of their work, funny how you didn't address that.
46:31 Historians do not argue for the Danube, Turkey, or the Balkans. It's the Eurasian Steppe. Ponto-Caspia. Sarmatia. Lied again.
46:41 Are you incapable of telling your audience the truth? I never said they were the only ones to write about it, just they're the only ones you cited, and as I said we were using your video because it was recommended to us.
47:09 Tsarion, and you, should both know that the Scots did not exist as a distinct group until a thousand years after Herodotus died. Caesar also was not vague and used tribal titles to explain who he was fighting. You're either unaware or you're lying.
48:18 Why are you citing people from 1932 when discussing what current historians believe?
48:47 Your source isn't saying that the British and Irish weren't Celtic in culture, it's saying that they weren't Celtic in ethnicity. Ironically, it's you who misconstrues the source. Also, I addressed all of MacDari's points that you brought up. Why lie?
49:04 Didn't overlook, you didn't bring it up.
49:38 If you had any familiarity with my work, you'd know I talk about the Roman Catholic attempts to assert dominance over the entire world all the time. Specifically, I mention the Dictatus Papae, written during the Investiture Controversy, though according to you, none of that ever happened because it was in the 11th century.
50:03 I've literally talked about the Albigensian Crusade. I'm actually in complete agreement with your source on most of this, just not the part about rewriting history.
51:37 We no longer use the term "Dark Ages" as it is a Victorian construct to believe that the early medieval period was somehow "dark". In reality, it is called the Early Medieval, Late Antiquity, or the Migration Period (depending on exactly what year and where).
51:52 That's a comparison chart, it is not etymology. Etymology would describe the way the word evolved from its earliest known root.
51:55 The Hebrew word "Pasach" means "Passover", and Pascha is derived from that...in Greek. It then moved across Europe, and became other variants of that word. This does not display an Irish to Hebrew connection, it displays a Hebrew to Irish connection. If that is wrong, imagine how much else is...
52:23 I very directly said this was from either MacDari or Donnelly, but you are also claiming it by citing them.
52:37 I can find no examples of the word "Saindrean" being used to describe a "seat, society, or sect", and "Sanhedrin" means "council or assembly", not seat or society. This is grasping at straws.
52:42 You've still yet to say whether or not the Holocaust happened, despite me reaching out directly.
52:52 "Ur" does not mean "Sun" in Irish, nor does it mean "earth or soil" in Hebrew.
53:21 I explicitly address Penulus and even offer some insight on Carthaginian/Celtiberian relations. Another lie.
53:22 What is this even from? I've looked up three of the words in Old Irish dictionaries and none of them appear."
Stop digging out stuff on the strength of 1 tartarian YTuber who is probably the most out there of them all there are plenty who show things clearly no arty farty shit and if you can't see the discrepancies then you are either asleep or part of the cover up I would like to think it's the former but by your ,, debunking style,, so I'm leaning to the latter . Clever though go for the kookiest 1 and try to roast him any way no one claims to know exactly what occurred but there is definitely something to it and by your long winded ,,response,, why did you not say any of this to man when he was on like I said people are waking up wether you like it or not and something smells rank.
Man the thoroughness of your research is absolutely insane
Remember you are literally doing this because you called someone an anti Semite and a holocaust denier, Major copium.
All I know on this subject is that God in His mirth invented whiskey so that the Irish wouldn't rule the wold.
@@noyb5277 He pointed out one part of mind unveiled's video that implied Jewish people are faked. And if mind unveiled doesn't want to be come off as a holocaust denier his response to being asked if the holocaust happened shouldn't be "I don't know I'll have to research it". He's either playing dumb or is historically ignorant about a pretty major modern event, both are bad looks.
This was like the educational version of a martial arts movie where the hero destroys 100 ninja's without being hit.
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Blind wheelchair bound ninjas.
@@guntguardian3771who attack one at a time
“English is not a language, English is four languages in a trench coat “ 🤣 so true, I’m going to have to remember that line!
Yeah, that line had me laughing harder than I can remember doing for a long time. Best way to describe English I have ever heard.
Question is, which languages?
@@eldrago19 Oooh good question. French and German are among them, likely, lotta borrowing from them. Would Latin count?
@@eldrago19 French, Norse, Germanic and Celtic languages, iirc. Don't quote me though, it's been years since I took a linguistic anthropology class.
That's most modern languages tho
As a modern day practitioner of the Wet Plate Collodion photography process, I was genuinely impressed with your knowledge of photographic history!
Same here
that's actually really cool that people still use that process
24 hour video explaining the entire book of Revelations (and the conspiracies/metaphors/theories that it entails) when? I’ll be waiting.
Haha we’ve discussed this on Weird Bible, Revelation is so deeply symbolic that interpretation is basically impossible
@@TheLoreLodgeyep, read and internalize. Very deeply internalize. Like way in the back of your mind so it’s a problem exclusive to your subconscious. Edit; you and Isaiah (my name is also Isaiah) have been my entire UA-cam and Spotify attention span for months now lol
Oh oh good information: Dan McLellan! He is a fact-based content creator who doesn't let his faith interfere with the facts
I always find conspiracy theories about history interesting as a history teacher.
... like I had to study what makes a historical argument and all of them seem to just want the world to be more mysterious and that they have found a hidden truth but without the care or logic of the real world...
And real world history is already weird and cool so it's kind of sad.
Next April fools day you should do a tartar history lesson and dress up the class room with boards with red yarn on them with the most incoherent stuff on them lol
Agreed. They seem to want history to be simultaneously way more complex (with all the the conspiracies and cover ups for unclear reasons that they assure folks are happening) and way simpler (so many of these seem to involve one super civilisation, makes it easier to think you know all history when you don't have to deal with myriad different cultures I guess).
tbf it mostly comes from the fact that we've walk the earth for solong we seen lived and spoke to neanderthals and denosovans (however its spelt) and our brains ain't changed .So there is so much history we will never know but historians/archeologist just pass it over and say nothing really happened .With sea rise and how humans still live by rivers n seas we could easily had complete Civ's rise n fall under the waves.
Also my issue is when we look at old stoneage buildings most of the time we see the marks left by the wood posts and its just a slightly darker bit o dirt so how would u see a 15,000 year old wood postholes from a village that was took under water 12,000 years ago when tepi was filled in with dirt and the waters rose and rivers changed paths
You do realize your canned over generalized view of history would come into conflict with most historians doing the real research right?
All you do is regurgitate what you are paid to regurgitate
The books you use to "teach" kids were owned and operated by Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwells father. The same Ghislaine that was the procurrer of children for epstein.
Fruit for thought for someone who clearly dont know what they don't know
@@joshsimpson10 @joshsimpson10 what real research? What do you mean by that?
Going to the sites and finding evidence and making claims based on evidence?
Citing primarily sources written by people of the time? Cross-referencing them with other sources to get a better picture of people living at the time?
What do you mean by any of this?
Like sure. Hate om the creepy pedophile woman all you want but If you would like to disprove a history book or make claims about a mythical civilization you need evidence beyond what has been produced in favor of it.
I have been to Rome, to civil war battlefields, to Normandy and other locations of history.
I have seen the scars left by artillery, I have seen the uniforms, the testimony of people who stood where I stood and paid the ultimate price... where humans of flesh and blood once lived and loved and hated and died.
... I take my studies of history seriously. I have tried to give tartara a chance but to paraphrase a quote I heard a long time ago "that which is presented as fact without evidence can be dismissed as fiction without evidence."
This has been an absolute amazing dismantling. Unfortunately, mind unveiled will almost CERTAINLY just rebuttal with “ everything you cited is faked and apart of the cover up.” However, anyone who is a rational thinker will certainly see that you are correct here, and that’s all you can really do.
Yeah at this point I don’t care. He lost. His “response” was just him taking me out of context, I presented evidence he can’t possibly refute, and he refused to do a live debate. Anyone rational would see this as a massive L for him.
I mean, when someone claims that the whole point of Freemasonry is and always has been belief in a Christian god, that they have never had an interest in the occult, and has ALSO said you can't be Christian and into the occult, yes Aiden has said all of these easily disproveable things, it does smell of some sort of masking.
@@jeremyt4292 I actually have never said any of those things. I said Freemasonry sprouted from Christianity (since we’re traditionally the successors of the Templars, this is factual); you have to be Christian to be a Templar. I never said there was no Masonic interest in the occult, just that the occult is not central to freemasonry. I also said you can’t be a practicing Christian and practicing occultist, which is true because the Bible bans practicing the occult; a Christian who practices the occult is by definition deliberately not following Christ, and therefore not a Christian.
@@TheLoreLodge how do you explain the practice of Kabbalah then? The Torah and Bible are the same book, yet people of Jewish faith are generally encouraged to study the mystical teachings in Kabbalah.
@@TheLoreLodge secondly, I would expect a student of History to be aware that there have been many schools of Christian mysticism, as well as Christian Gnostics, and as a Mason I'd think you'd be aware that these philosophies were- and still are to some degree- an important aspect of Freemasonry.
Aiden passively aggressively tearing apart conspiracy theories is my new favourite thing
May you find a more satisfying existence, love.
@@capitalisa it is amusing.
It's almost as amusing as believing in a magical mud flood and that all world history is wrong and only YOU know the truth!
@honestkyn718 you say that like gobekli tepe wasn't just unburied in 1994 or ancient Rome didn't start getting unburied about 100 yrs and there's miles and miles of underground tunnels and cities built on top of others
Aiden may be a person telling you Info that may be wrong
Love how a video about silly history turned into internet beef. Can't wait to see if there's another response.
I don’t think Mind Unveiled will because he is saying Aiden is bullying him… because Aiden is making him look like a fool with straight facts and sources and while UV has a 2 hour “he’s making me feel bad pls defend me :(“ video filled with easily debunked misinformation.
@@AnonNonaA”straight facts” ?? ur serious? This dude completely disregards a lot of facts kid. history is all bs and u all believe it without doing actual research. u all just want to be comfortable in what u have bin taught and refuse to question the complete lack of evidence in what u have bin taught. All u people are doing is saying “if he said he’s a professional, that’s good enough for me 🤷🏼♂️👍🏼” ur not looking at the real world or real facts. ur accepting the nonsense narrative we’ve all bin spoon fed and acting like people that question nonsense are delusional 🤦🏼♂️ that’s sad.
@@AnonNonaAon what drug were you aha, none of what you’re saying make sense ahaha
@@maximhebert-gareau4461t doesn't make sense to you because you don't have the context like he does. Apparently you're the rtarded one
@@maximhebert-gareau4461bro, you must be on drugs since you can't read or type.
The craziest part of this video is that I forgot that 1950 is 73 years ago.
I’m getting old.
I'm impressed and I salute the Lore Lodge. I went from critiquing and not enjoying in this channels conception, and early on. I even said you guys aren't important enough for a mailbomb, when you made a joke about it, but now, like I said, truly impressed, and I enjoy the content. Bravo my guys
I was the "Mikey B " that gave you so much shit.
Well I’m glad you came around!
You two earned all the respect 👍
@@TheLoreLodgeare you not worried that you may NOW be considered important enough for a mail bomb
@@Giddog40 eh
"Do not test me. I am a man with too much time off his hands who makes money doing this. " i love it
I love that line
I'm honestly suprised at how nice Aidan was. The streams made me a little curious of just how petty we were getting. Personally i vote more petty. show us the degree again lol
As much as I can appreciate drama from time to time, this was probably the better route for him to have taken. I personally found his, uh, disposition during the streams quite amusing, but I can understand why some people might’ve not taken it that way. So playing it safe was probably a smart move. imo, Aidan won this “argument” either way, but taking the proverbial high road by not directly insulting MU does kinda make him seem like the better person in this situation.
@@missxfaiththe level of salty was perfect from Aidan. 😊
Appeal to authority, Appeal to accomplishment
26:22 Anecdotal, but the Shriners and their involvement with hospitals is the reason why I'm alive and doing yoga right now listening to this video in the background. When I was a teen in the mid 2000s, I had development problems with my skeletal structure that was so severe, they had to fly me out of state to get a 5 hour surgery done on me. Got the metal rods in my back and scarring to prove it. If I hadn't done it, my spine would have crushed my lungs over time as I got older. At the time I had no understanding of different religions or different groups. But when I visited the hospitals, they had beanie baby toys that kids could take, and there were old guys in interesting hats walking around chatting with parents and kids while we waited for our x-rays or whatever. While I was waiting for my room to be admitted too, there was even an aquarium with pretty fish to look at. It was the first and only time I flew out of state, and I remember seeing all kinds of different kids of all ages, all with different chronic medical issues that were getting treatment through the Shriners Hospitals. I don't know how much overlap they have with "bad" things, but yeah. My family at the time was religious (some form of Christianity, idk,) my great grandpa was a priest. But none of my family spoke poorly of other religions or beliefs. So yeah. Not that this matters, but I just wanted to put this story out there.
The more I hear of Tartaria, the more I like to think it’s just a cool ARG like Monument Mythos and someone took it seriously
Lol it's not even a "cool" ARG.
@@Self-Aware You right
Dude I had the exact same thought
I think people are looking for something- anything, they can have a niche on UA-cam, get a bunch of views and make some money. They just have to state “we’ve been lied to” along with all the other talking points they always use, and voila, they have a lucrative business. They’ll ride the wave until the next big conspiracy.
is it not a particularly hot curry?
There was something oddly satisfying about hearing Aiden talk trash while somehow still being professional about it.
You go guys!!! Your research is ALWAYS well very well done and I pity the fool that wants to challenge you!!! You can take on any point and any criticism and give a well spoken, well researched, and extremely well done response!!! I love history, and I really love your channel! Just keep it up, forget the idiot critics, and just keep doing what your doing!
a 2-hour roast about history and secret societies???
my day has been improved 10000 times!
One of the things that I like about you is your arrogant, cocksure attitude and humor. This seems to consistently be backed up with your research skills and thoroughness. Add to this your seeming dedication to using your platform for larger moral purposes from time to time. NOW I learn that you are amongst the rarest of human beings in that you are self-aware and capable of applying your talents towards self-improvement. Not that you asked, but that last bit completes my personal appraisal of you as being firmly on the side of the "good".
Convictions can ruin a person and are only marginally more seductive than certainty. Folks who prove capable of putting both of them to the test AND prove to have the strength of character to change whatever breaks are what we need.
Thank you.
Don't get too humble btw.....
After visiting this MindUnveiled channel and reading the comments, I have no faith in the future of humanity.
Bro, same. Never heard of them, thought I should at least check him out to see both sides of the story and was astonished how dumb people could be. You would think with flat earth believers it couldn't get any worse and but It just got worse.
Nah I used to be a nihilist and now I refuse to lose hope on humanity. We will get through this, it’ll take a lot of work, getting people like that educated, getting the communist to see how much worse it is than what we got while addressing and holding those in power, stop the corruption and then make a way it can’t happen again. Probably start with lobbying and holding corporations back from becoming monopolies. Revamping the education system in general I mean 1-5 adults in America can’t read or do math and I believe my conspiracy is both sides in US have been bought and manipulated by idk who foreign counties, corporations cause it’s an amalgamation of each side putting acts in like no child left behind that push’s people through the system.
Not gun reform but watching people and stopping them who are unhinged and giving veteran jobs to protect schools and places.
Things will get better, they probably just have to get a lot worse before they can get better.
@@kaulmedruI’ve seen one or two of his videos, but have a different take. What are the points of contention, specifically?
Every village always had their idiots, now every village idiot can get together online and chat with each other.
😂
When my left leg got 3rd degree burns and needed skin grafting the shriners heard my story in a local paper one flew me to thier hospital in Cincinnati and paid for it all, the man who flew me there even gave my mom money to get us new shoes as they were tattered and falling apart, amazing people
Yup, had the same experience with the Shriners when I was a kid!
This is blowing my mind, I only knew about the tiny cars.
Are you sure they weren't 33rd degree burns. (Sorry, but I just love conspiracy theories)😅😂
@@Inverted.surfer yes 4rth degree if it even a classified condition would be flesh burnt completely away which they cut and scrape off of you till they get to the 3rd degree portion it will never heal and needs to take large amounts of my skin from other parts of my body to cover, it can never heal but can still mostly be used
@@Inverted.surfer my nickname is rusty Shackleford lol I too like a good conspiracy however one should always be careful what cup of kool-aid they decide to drink from
Many many towns in the US have historical society's which you can contact to see old photos of many older buildings that may not be online.
Very well done. Addressing the points one by one until you've made your point is important - saying "This is easy to look up so I'm not going to talk about it" is a strategy used by conspiracy theorists, because they know the lazy folks won't do it. I also really liked you addressing what primary sources you were using. Excellent video, better than part one for sure.
I’d just like to say my dad was a mason as was my uncle, my grandfather and great grandfather, to my knowledge my father was definitely not an evil satanist and I’m confident that none of my paternal line were either , Scottish Protestants absolutely, I’m a non practicing Scottish Protestant myself
Huh it seems like he’s using an authority point to make his point. Disappointed man
Honestly, watching these debunking videos has been a good way for me to brush up on my history. I never knew that Irish were Celtic iberians.
He threatened to copyright strike you if you used any clips of his video... Meaning he's admitting to file false copyright claims against fair use laws and UA-cam's TOS... That tells me all I need to know about mind unveiled...
Personally speaking, I never thought you came off as arrogant. You just seem confident in what you're talking about. I mean when you're not you always point out that you're not. That's a decency that not a lot of these documentary style youtube channels give us.
Is it just me, or is it a little gaslighty to say you’re being condescending to him? Like… they’re basically saying you’re being disrespectful to him, as if his theories should be treated with respect and on equal footing with the collective accepted history of the world. Like I’m sorry but no, you gave up your right to respect long ago when you said church steeples collected atmospheric energy from the sky.
The Tartaria guy lies so much that he doesn't deserve respect.
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Tbh it's also possible the Tartaria guy has some sort of untreated mental illness and genuinely believes some of the insane stuff he's spouting.
In which case I mostly feel bad.
Theories should absolutely not be respected until they’re proven true. There’s no logic or coherence behind the tartaria theory. He just doesn’t want anyone asking questions or poking holes in his ideas because he knows he’s deceiving people with a very flimsy fable.
you're so lost you don't even realize what's up or down. I can't believe you really think you know any better than anyone else. i guess everyone needs somebody to make them feel less small. there are no objective fact, get over yourself, and then do some research, obviously you've never been outside of mommy house or you'd know. look up piezoelectric generators or triboelectric nanogenerators. I truly hope one day you guys grow a brain and decide to make your own mind up about things instead of happily swallowing another man's opinion while he pats you on the head.
"hYuCk, the uGlY fAt gUy wItH tHe gLaSsEs sAiD a fuNnY, hE iS tHe oNlY sOuRcE oF tRuth"
@@LaB567 Than stop respecting science. Because the basic there is proving theories over and over again 😉
As someone who loves watching and reading all things history iv really enjoyed all the vids u have made. I can also really appreciated all the time u spend researching and compiling the content to give us very informative and truthful vids. People should be more thankful for free things in life. Keep up the good vids. Many thanks from Ireland.
So thrilled to find a channel providing a voice of reason. I am over 50 so I learned how to critically think by reading books and going to college. As much as I love the internet, these crazy revisionist history channels (Tartaria, flat earth etc..) are doing the exact same thing they accuse others of doing, rewriting history. It's the modern day equivalent of book burning.
Why is the phrase "think critically" always applied in situations where they are disproving people asking questions that go against what they were taught?
That sounds like critical thinning to me. Thinking critically, and looking at something twice rather than just accepting it at face value.
Call me stupid, but I don't believe asking a question makes you dumb. At worst it makes you uneducated, but never dumb.
Also, for mind unveiled case, he's not rewriting anything, he's bringing up ideas that aren't usually thought of before. How is that harmful in any way?
@@nirvanafan849 I think you're right and one thing I loved about the internet from the beginning was the free flow of information. I was a network engineer (1998) running servers in downtown LA via a private network (T1 line) to New Jersey, no one was connected to the internet but I connected us and used it every single day. People back then were saying the internet was a fad, but anyone under 50 at that time, understood it. Having a free forum where people can share information worldwide is extraordinary. I tend to think the youngest generation today has an exceptional ability to discern the truth and so I take back my previous comment and tip my hat to yours.
"English is not a language. It's four languages in a trench coat." Is probably the best and most accurate description of English I have ever heard.
Yep have to agree lol
Third degree KC here and that's not entirely true about why the Knights of Columbus were founded. It was actually originally founded in 1882 by Father Michael J. McGivney as a mutual benefits society for working class catholic men to provide benefits to their families in case they died young, which was a very common occurrence for working class catholic men and no government support structures existed at the time. To this day, it still provides life insurance to its members.
I can attest to the street raising thing. The town I’m from was settled in 1784, and when my parents bought a building on Main Street and we were checking out the basement, I noticed a door and a couple windows that were all boarded and nailed shut. When I asked why, my dad told me about street raising (which I never knew about). Given the time period the building was built (at least the early 1800’s), and it being built next to the Susquehanna River, it made sense. Tartarianism takes so many mental gymnastics I can’t believe you were able to form it into a cohesive video
That's Epic, I have always felt compelled to pursue knowledge and power in order to contribute to the betterment of humanity. Been seeking a means to be influential and find out more knowledge about the human race and about the things not everyone is destined to know. I wish to fulfill the goal of enlightenment passed down by our forebears...
I can totally relate to your passion, if all that is what you desire then i think it's achievable. Joining the Illuminatus Brotherhood can lead to the enlightenment you seek and more. I am well aware that the idea of this group may sound mythical but it is possible to join.
@@bartholetbay412 Hi, isn't the brotherhood a myth? I mean sometimes i just feel like it's just a conspiracy theory.
@@haynesatteh4463 Yeah I acknowledge that misunderstanding can occur when people encounter what they don't fully grasp, especially in this internet era. The Illuminatus advocates for the acceptance of all religions. You can look up "Anthony Szymon". Will give you clarity and answers to any questions you might have.
@@bartholetbay412 oh really, i just saw his website, which is interesting. I will leave him a message.
I'm hella confused what the hell is the context of this comment?
So hilariously, I was making a new minecraft world, and wanted to break away from the "Cottage core" or "quaint mideval Village" theme i normally go with.....
my world is now called Tartaria and im doing half burried Neo-Gothic archetechtural Ruins.
Thanks Aidan!!!
I’m glad you said how much fun you were having looking into alternative history. Thanks for providing additional information. History is fascinating.
I love how this started out as a quick debunk vid and spiraled into a multi part shit storm where you rip everything apart.
worlds fair sounds dope, we should bring it back
Good News! The next one is scheduled for 2025 in Osaka, Japan.
You are probably one of the more open to speculate historians and I appreciate it. As some historians can get a bit annoying when they go from calling something "anomalous and unlikely" to "truth beyond all truths" after they find like... A journal. It's clear that every historian has their own theories and I love that I can trust to hear yours.
I really appreciate you calling out antisemitism in conspiracy theories. I find stuff like this interesting to learn about but it so often delves into blatantly antisemitic rhetoric and so many people just gloss over it or ignore it
I’m really glad he does too, I grew up hearing a lot of conspiracies so the antisemitism tends to just go right over my head. I’m unlearning it fortunately, but others calling it out is a big help
It's tragically easy to ignore the anti-semitism, because it's always so lazily shoehorned into the conspiracy theories. Every single time, it's like, the person finishes making up their grand conspiracy, then remembered they forgot to toss the jews in somewhere.
Well yeah, do you keep talking when people deliberately ignore you?
Funny that isn’t it
Have you even LISTEN & Watched what he's referring to??? Doesn't sound like it...
As somebody who briefly lived in Pensacola I can say with utmost confidence that lizard people live there
“Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it”
These alternate history conspiracy truthers are such a blackhole to argue against and you’re doing fantastic work here. I’d love to see a video on these alternate history conspiracies as a phenomenon and what, to their believers, constitutes evidence and truth-considering the general disdain for historical context and primary sources
Great video! It's nice to see someone trained in this stuff come out with provable facts. The amount of misinformation and vitriol (aka rampant antisemitism) in the comments of part 1 was so depressing to see. I don't know why they can't just make all the Tartaria stuff into a nice alternate history tale, instead of spreading lies online.
I left the antisemitic comments in there for a reason. I want people to see who believes in this stuff.
Because racists sooner or later have to get to grinding that axe. One track minders there, and its more of an Ep than an Lp.
What's the wildest to me about these theories is that instead of attributing it to the Native Americans who we know already inhabited North American and were capable of amazing cultures like in the Mississipian area, they want to make up TarTaria 🫠 I don't think the Native Americans had flying cars or anything wild, but bigger populations in areas like by the Mississippi(STL/Cahokia) and by the Great Lakes(Chicago) isn't too crazy of an idea. Thank you for the great video Lore Lodge 😁
Not to mention the fact that in places like central and South America they were capable of making huge cities
I'm very happy you mentioned the different architectual styles. As someone who has to study this for university, like boy, it's all so different and distinct.
So, as a Knight of Columbus, I need to make mention of our long-standing history as a life insurance provider. The whole secret society angle is secondary to that and the charitable donations. The church might want us to be the Pepsi to Free Masonry's Coke, but internally we consider ourselves to be Pepsi while the Masons are tomato soup. Similar in only the most superficial of terms. Sorry for editorializing in the comments, I just don't like when we get compared because we're so radically different.
I was wondering about this when Adian mentioned the Knights so dismissively. I love his work but he gets mean when he is heated I have found. Thank you for chipping in with your knowledge and view point!
@kingmaximus2374 Nah, he ain't being mean about it. We get that a lot. People also think the church runs us, but we're an independent Catholic organization. Secret society means that you can't answer a ton of questions.
@@jamestonnessen8588"The church doesn't run us" hmmmmmm go ooooooon.
@jackbishop8610 I actually can't passed that statement.
Not only did the Tartarians not need to eat or need toilets. They also built all the sewers in the cities that were already here. The sewers they wouldn't have needed because they didn't use toilets.
This reminds me of Carl Sagan obliterating Velikovsky. With the help of people like you, maybe Tartaria will be as obscure a historical oddity in the future.
Velikovsky was right except that the crust didn't shift as he thought. The entire earth expanded. We know this now along with many other facts we didn't have decades ago. The ocean floor age map alone is enough to make plate tectonics laughable at best.
@@Spectre-wd9dl I couldn't find much of anything that he got right with supporting evidence. Some phenomena he proposed do seem like lucky guesses that he could have potentially proven and been credited for, if he approached them with reproducible research methods.
@@Spectre-wd9dl "The ocean floor age map alone is enough to make plate tectonics laughable at best." How so? All the maps I've seen show ocean floor increasing in age from mid-ocean ridges toward continents, exactly as plate tectonics predicts.
Been waiting for this episode since the first came out, got the popcorn on standby
One point I would like to see addressed is the detailed explanation of how the logistics of building some of the larger structures was undertaken especially those that have officially documented timeframes of 1-2 years. Structures built in the 1860-1880 timeline (even if they no longer exist) and of which we have surviving photographs can be analysed as to the volume and weight of the materials (frequently weighing several tons) that had to be transported from quarries miles from the building site on dirt roads by teams of horses pulling carts. This can further be broken down into the number of trips required to deliver the goods, the number of horses needed per trip and the rest periods needed for the horses between trips due to the exertion of hauling heavy loads which increases the overall pool of horses needed. Once an approx number of horses required is established then the feed and water needed on a daily basis to maintain the horses can be accurately forecast (each working horse needing 15-20 gallons of water and approx 2.5% of its bodyweight in feed per day) along with the workers and infrastructure required to maintain just the transportation of materials to the building site. The weather is also a factor as any reasonable downpour would render the dirt roads useless when carting building materials, primary sources from newspapers often contain information re the weather so the number of days lost could be approximated. The number of workers needed to provide the basic needs of feeding and watering (including delivery of) the horse could also be added to the number of men needed to construct the building. Therefore using the above process logistical data could be supplied to experts in civil engineering to make a judgement on the feasibility of the construction given the geography and population of the city, the number of workers needed in both the transportation and construction stage and the timeline provided. I live in a city in Australia that in 1864 had a population of approx 120,000 and photos of this period show that despite one cathedral no building exceeds three floors in height and are very basic in their construction (ie rectangle brick buildings without columns, domes and cavernous interiors) therefore I do find it puzzling that some US cities in the same period with 60,000 citizens have libraries and town halls etc that not only dwarf our buildings but are incredibly ornate and built in such short timeframes, particularly so soon after the civil war which would have greatly reduced any excess manpower available.
Not all stereoscopic pictures are copied! I don’t know how long ago the cameras that take them were invented, but it’s essentially two cameras in one, taking the picture from slightly different angles. If they were identical, you wouldn’t see a 3D image, since your eyes see slightly different angles of your surroundings, and the differences between the angels are what makes depth perception possible!
One more comment from me... My husband and I actually rebuilt a carpenter gothic home. Including modern made (i.e., to code) gothic windows. I hope that in hundreds of years, it really confuses people.
I do OSINT (open source intelligence) research on the side, so regarding Tineye and Google Lens at around 14 minutes in: I personally rely on Yandex if I'm trying to find the specific source of an image, because they tend to trawl places like forums and seedier parts of the Internet, and Google Lens if I don't know if the source exists but I'd like to identify what the image is (like if I have a picture of scenery or old buildings). If you're keen on learning more about reverse image searching stuff, Bellingcat has fantastic guides on it as well as case studies of themselves using it.
As someone who owns a several hundred year old masonic bible.... Yes
Tell me more
Go on...
Lets hear it!
Update me harder Daddy, UWU!
He's full of shit. I wish he wasn't. Or would enlighten me. I'm a Master Mason, 32nd degree Scottish rite Mason and a knight's Templar (York rite mason). I joined to learn the history. Hidden or otherwise. I've dug really hard.
If Tartars are so good how come they never made a Tartars 2?
As an amateur photographer, it's remarkable to me that Mind Unveiled will look at small blurs in 1800s photographs and see those as evidence of doctoring, yet trot out obviously doctored images of blimps moving buildings and call them the real deal 😂
Or the fact that those blurry images he looks at have clearer versions that are easy to find
Incensed yet educational Aidan is probably my favorite Aidan.
It also annoys me how Tartarians act so pompous. They're like "do you really believe that people could have built this stone building that would have required some effort" and then not give any reasons to why it couldn't be built.
Well, facts like there was no dynamite or certain equipment and tools to do the things that would have been necessary for those kind of buildings?
Also, where did the water for all the horses needed come from?...
I just have to say, it's so refreshing to have someone pronounce Worcester correctly ;u;
I dunno if you're local, or if you just go hard on the research (I mean, it's obvious that you do a TON of research because you are on point with the facts, but its so unusual that documentarians actually say that city name right i have to point it out) but I appreciate it and that sort of attention to detail makes me like your vids that much more.
Aidan, do you think there's a possibility you could be able to send me a link to where did you buy that sooo God damn beautiful cross on your God damn beautiful manchest? I couldn't get into having a necklace for years, I couldn't find anything for myself, and this has my eyes locked in it for months, and if it's possible, I would really love to get one...
9:37 I was born and raised in Sacramento, CA. For those unfamiliar with the capitol city of The Golden State it is located in a valley west of Donner Pass and the Truckee Lake area, east of San Francisco, and has two major rivers running though it (The Sacramento River and The American River). The two rivers meet a short distance north of downtown Sacramento. Just east of the Sacramento River and west of Interstate 5 lies Old Sacramento. A national/state park and historical area. Cobble stone streets and raised wooden walk ways instead of asphalt roads and concrete sidewalks. Much like would have been found in the Victorian-era "Old West". Of note is the fact that the buildings there (unlike the most buildings in the state) have basements, lots of them. With outdoors stairways leading to entry doors for some businesses in said basements. Those basements have windows and doors much like what is pictured in the photos shown on screen. Sacramento is a flood plain. It flooded on the regular every spring with heavy rainfall and snow melt causing the rivers to rise and flood the valley. It's why central CA is such great farm land. After some particularly bad flooding in the 1880s the city government basically buried the city up to the second story of all the buildings already in existence and they built the first levees in the area. The second floor became the new street level. It's all documented, but I suppose that Tartarians would claim that Sacramento was another "mud flood" location and that Americans just moved in and dug everything up and moved in.
I still want to see a debate between you two with an mostly unbiased moderator so you don’t talk over each other.
I'm all in
@@TheLoreLodge Can't really debate someone who is 95% emotion. That other 5% is their finishing move of calling anything they don't agree with a lie or coverup.
@@misha5670 I still win then. I’m confident this guy couldn’t confront me with anything I couldn’t explain to a live audience.
Wow............just WOW!
As someone who's been a Union Ironworker for the past 14 years, to hear someone say that "We don't build buildings, they've always been here and we dug them up as a form of recycling" is just so nonsensical, ridiculous, and utterly stupid that I'm honestly not even the least bit surprised.
I mean, holy s^^^ man, is the Matrix collapsing in on itself right now or what?
Love your vids bro. Super knowledgeable on history, and one of the very few streamers I don't find myself picking apart discrepancies like dates and names or sources. Mind Unveiled is more or less just fringe theories which can be fun to ponder, but its when they push that narrative it becomes not good.
I'm proud to know 1/4-1/2 of this epic debunking. It's so hard and time consuming to debunk these psychopaths.
Ah well, cathedrals didn't typically take several centuries to complete. 50 to 150 years is a more realistic timeframe for most. St. Peter's Cathedral in Rome for instance was completed within roughly 130 years. (Ok, technically it is a basilica, but that's for liturgical reasons. To the best of my knowledge it is the biggest Catholic church ever built.) The Cathedral of Florence took around 140 years to be built. So yes, these were quite monumentous constructions, and given the technologies of their time periods building them within usually several decades is an impressive achievement in itself. In most cases it could have been done quite a bit faster but as these buildings required highly specialized craftsmen this would have been far too expensive.
Construction periods of more than 200 years are fairly rare. There are some examples, of course, and in most of these cases construction had to abandonded for external reasons: Wars, cities running out of money, an outbreak of the plague, that sort of thing. Sometimes also the entire construction had to be replanned because architectural preferences had changed.
The only example of a Cathedral that literally took several centuries to complete that I can think right away is in Cologne in Germany. In that case, construction was abandoned for roughly 300 years, and it wasn't finished until 1880. There are probably some others, although Cologne is unique in that very lengthy construction period.
1:37:07 love ur historical deep dives but was so thrown listening to this because i was half expecting to hear u go on w ‘on dasher, on prancer, on donner and blitzen’ 🤣💜
Watching Lore Lodge continually dunk on this dude has been highly entertaining
I'm very glad you did these videos. The Mind Unveiled videos are like candy to me because they're so entertaining, and yet they have such a downside because people in the comments believe all of this as fact! It would be great if the creators of the MU videos were presenting them as fiction and clear about it because they're so imaginative and would make great scifi/fantasy novels. Their music is great too. It's a shame they're wasting their talents on encouraging people into breaking with reality.
I disagree with your claim regarding how we acquire historical narratives which are generally accepted. The issue pertains to the fact that most times, these theories and studies must get approval, so inherently a lot of them are biased to begin with. This is seen in many studies done which were supported through funding by the US Government and Congress. I am not saying it is intentional, but the immense human bias limits a lot of validity to much of the history we do think we know, and a lot of these studies should be redone.
They must get approval and funding.
@@lauren_winsteadcorrect, just like our medical system. People refuse to acknowledge it though, because they’d have to take a hard look at what they believe vs what they actually know, which is next to nothing. Most of us are just running around trying to confirm our own biases with no experience that gives us actual knowledge 🙃
Don't forget the things from history that they don't tell. The Bosnian pyramids for example. As soon as mainstream acknowledges it, it will change history completely. But it will destroy 'science' consensus 😊
Wow...I literally just tapped on the yt thumbnail. Instantly hooked. I wasn't going to listen to it, especially 2 hours worth of dialogue.. But was totally onboard within 5 minutes. You tore him a new a**opening... Brilliant. Thank you for actual history...
Did I just watch 3 hours worth of debunking video for Tataria conspiracy that I didn't know existed without doing my homework? yes... yes I did. Do I regret it? Nope.
I listen to this channel while im at work. So i do love the longer videos, helps kill more time for me. But you've given these people waaay to much attention. It is nice to hear you systematically destroy their theories, but people like that thrive on any kind of attention thats thrown their way.
What I find very interesting is the amount of locations that I've lived near or at and that were supposedly Tartarian, so can I call myself a Tartarian now, seems like the logic they use, so if they are validated so am I. Maybe I can get a scholarship or something.
I’ve seen so much from ur other social media about this and have been very impatiently wait for this!!!!
Damn that was a great 2 hour journey. 10/10 job
Darlin… don’t give any more of your time to those that criticize you. J7st keep doing what you do. There will alWays be detractors.
1:43:06 to my limited understanding of church law, being a mason results in denial of communion (result is an important verb, you are not "denied" communion by a priest, you become incapable or receiving it) due to the incompatibility of Catholic and Mason theology, Masons believe in an unknowable universal architect, and many lodges do not recognise christianity as "the" truth (although, as far as I understand it, this varies from lodge to lodge). The Church also claims incompatibility with the initiatic and esoteric nature of Freemasonry. Again, to my understanding they appreciate the charity and the philanthropy, but cannot agree on the theology behind it. This is not a case of the Catholic Church being evil for no reason, but an explainable difference in belief
I'm very new to the channel, and I love how bro covers and debunks the most bat shit insane theories and historical fiction I've never heard of. Seriously, I thought Flerfs were confidently wrong but this Mind Unveiled guy is on a whole another level, and he has the gall to call you smug.
We need more history stuff from you! or just debunking crazy conspiracies with history would be fun too
He also runs the History Hut channel which is, obviously, more about history
This was excellently done, and I appreciate your emotional restraint, lol. I know that must have been taxing at times. Good for you sticking to the facts (and a few jokes)! 👍
The man melding through the stone is clearly using the powers granted by the Secret Word of a Master Mason, it's not a forgery.
Great job bro I love this, not gonna mind unveiled really made this sound legit. So thank you for clearing it up and setting the record straight.
Keep up the great work ❤❤❤❤
Straight up. Lol mind unveiled got owned lol but I appreciate these facts 💯💯
It’s hilarious to me that in this day and age, people still make preposterous claims and expect not to get eviscerated by someone more well-researched sooner or later.
I love how you put people in their place after accusing you of crap. Nicely done. I also love how you say obviously/of course as if non historians know what you're about to tell us. 😅
How have I never realized that you are a fellow central Pennsylvanian, it feels so weird when you name places that I know quite well.
The appearance of the “Tartarian Empire” on some old maps is tied to a combination of historical misunderstandings, European ethnocentrism, and the limited knowledge of distant regions during the time these maps were created.
1. European Misconceptions:
• In the medieval and early modern periods, European mapmakers had limited and often inaccurate information about the vast regions of Central and Northern Asia. The term “Tartary” or “Tartaria” was used by Europeans as a broad label for the vast, largely unknown regions of Asia, encompassing what we now know as Siberia, Central Asia, and sometimes parts of East Asia. The people in these regions were often referred to as “Tartars” (or “Tatars”), a term that originally applied to specific nomadic groups but was generalized by Europeans to describe a variety of peoples across Asia.
2. Mongolian Empire:
• The Mongol Empire, which reached its height in the 13th and 14th centuries under leaders like Genghis Khan and his successors, was the largest contiguous empire in history. However, as the empire fragmented and eventually dissolved, European knowledge of the region became even more fragmented. The term “Tartary” continued to be used as a catch-all for the vast regions once under Mongol control, regardless of the actual political entities that existed.
3. Tartary as a Geographic Label:
• “Tartary” was not a unified empire in the sense of a single, centralized state. Instead, it was a geographic term used to describe a vast area inhabited by various tribes and states, some of which were successors or remnants of the Mongol Empire. Over time, as knowledge improved, the term fell out of use and was replaced by more accurate names reflecting the actual political and ethnic realities of the region, such as the Mongol Empire, the Russian Empire in Siberia, and the various khanates in Central Asia.
4. Persistence in Cartography:
• The persistence of the term “Tartary” on maps well into the 18th century reflects both the slow spread of updated information and the enduring nature of older geographical concepts. Even as more accurate maps were developed, the older terms and labels lingered, especially in European maps, which often reflected a mix of old knowledge and newer discoveries.
In summary, the use of “Tartarian Empire” on old maps instead of “Mongolian Empire” reflects the Eurocentric and often inaccurate understanding of Asia during the time when these maps were made. It was a term used by Europeans to describe a vast and largely unknown region, rather than an accurate reflection of the political and cultural realities of the area.
I don't comment a lot, but this was seriously awesome. I really appreciate the sheer amount of research you do into your videos. Every topic you've covered that I've personally delved into was extremely well researched and very accurate. Keep up the great work.
never thought I'd hear the topic of 'mud volcano' when I clicked on this video, thank you for this Lore Lodge
Wait, tartarians are breatharians? I thought he said before that the food they ate made them not need to use bathrooms or something? Did i imagine that?
They were so cool they didn't poop.
I love conspiracy theories, but this is too wild even for me.
I appreciate the dedication to going through point by point and just bodying the entire narrative. Some people just really want to believe that the world is a more interesting place than they think it is, despite there being plenty of cool things they could learn about if they put in the effort to find the right resources.
Can't wait. Its about time this Tartaria nonsense was slain and sent back to where it came from.
I live in Chicago myself in one of these major city’s Tartiaria was apart of, and I see for myself all the random beautiful old world buildings , some unexplainable with no history of the builders themselves or payroll and barely any construction photos, (if there are it’s already completeled) meaning these buildings were already here. I’m not saying we know everything cause we don’t but there’s certainly truth in this . Let’s learn about our story , not HIS-story . The winners . rulers/gods (small g)
@@yamilvargas2196 this video address that exact claim, which is nowhere near as true as you’ve been led to believe.
@TheLoreLodge hey aiden I know this is probably outside your wheelhouse but I feel it's very close. I'm from Georgia and have seen what I believe to be 2 mountain lions in person. That to me is not very weird but what is is the us wildlife service has repeatedly denied the existence of mountain lions in the southeast United States including the Appalachians. While there is plenty of video evidence to the contrary in places like Tennessee. Just curious if you could look into why they deny it so hard when it seems like it could be plausible and if it were true would have no bearing on the govt from what I can tell? Are they just dumb?
@TheLoreLodge hey cool that you replied , well I hope maybe you can help explain these fires too in the city’s not only in America but around the world happening around the 1800s early 1900s. And also the photos of the aftermath does not look like a fire caused by accident like a cow knocking over a laturn , they look like explosives or bombs . No different then photos of city’s during WW2 .
@@yamilvargas2196 fires are also covered here
Thank you. Hands down the best knowledge of Celtic history and I wasn't even aware that you are a freemason. I was actually fooled by earlier Tartaria stuff a few years ago. This was when people (russians) were designing astrology software and users tried to confirm Newton's dates for solar eclipses and they were unable. This only proved that I need to be careful about the astrology software I purchase. Not sure that it indicates multiple timelines and a multiverse.
After finishing the video did the thing in the beginning but been follower for awhile now but I gotta tell ya I will always be watching your content love how passionate and indepth with research and use research and the why and reasoning etc but keep going for I will forever watch every video!
I hate to say it, but who actually believes you can live off air alone go ahead and try I dare you, I'll make sure you get the trophy for the Darwin awards, it's a very distinguished trophy for those of the most witted minds.
It’s just a ridiculous idea
It's because air was delicious during the vanilla sky days.
If you feel like losing braincells, just to look up the atrocity guide video on breatharians. At least three people tried to prove it, and one of them even bloged about it. Wisely, she stopped after a few days or weeks.
Please please do a podcast on the titanic! I think your research on what happened and the court enquiries both American and British would be so kool. I know it has nothing to do with occult but it's definitely a big historical moment.
Would be. Good history hut video.
it was iinsurance fraud
@@vincentellsworth7905i really hope ur being ironic
@@tictactoe1609 not at all. Look into it
@@vincentellsworth7905 they actively lost money on the insurance though
Even in modern photography the sky and things on the ground are hard to photograph together nevermind early photography.
I learned 2 things from the last 2 videos…
1) Don’t lie
2) If I do lie, don’t get on Aidan’s radar
1:23:35 I live in Utah, a bit farther north than Salt Lake City. The sky here just looks that way sometimes. It's because the whole valley is a bowl and when clouds get stuck in the bowl the sky looks like a blank greyish canvas.
I wonder if tartaria conspiracy believers were ever introduced to carbon dating, assuming they can have any understanding of modern science
“naw dude It was revealed to me in a dream” type shit from them
I'm NOT a tartaria-ist or whatever but how much do YOU know about carbon dating?
@@jackbishop8610 Yeah lot of people dont know much about any given scientific thing, and such, but that would be impossible for everyone. Thats why people go to study specific fields, and spends their life doing that. Although as consept carbon dating seems simple enough i think, but obviously as layman i dont know every detail about it. What little i do know carbon isotopes or whatever they are called start decaying so you can estimate somethings age by looking at the decay to certain point
Carbon isn't real!!!
Have you seen Young Earth Creationists talk about carbon dating? It's insanely easy to dismiss anything scientific on the grounds that you only have the word of "experts" who are "in on it" or being duped themselves, after all, "how can they know that this rock is a million years old? Was someone there a million years ago watching it form? No!"
Unrelated to the Tartaria stuff, but that was a very smooth ad transition!