Snap On vs Harbor Freight's New Earthquake on the Dyno
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2021
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Our highest ranked air impact we've had no issues with: amzn.to/3sfnFON The latest Snap-On MG725A hits the dyno vs the latest Earthquake, the EQ12GXT. There's quite a gap in price between these two, yet people seem convinced they make the same power. Let's find out if their latest 2021 models make a difference!
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Why do we include Torque Claims score column? Not a perfect system by any means, but all of the scores ARE based on the power it made for us, the 1st 3 are its power runs. The next 3 are functions of power. In these the brands can do one of 2 things to increase that score. Shorten the tool or make more power, make more power or advertise a more realistic torque figure, and make more power or charge less. Most of our video will always be testing the torque output vs others, so if that's 100% what you're after we still got you and you dont need a rank list. If you're sticking around to the rank list, that's basically our own value system for these tools and for sure subjective.
As we mention in the 1st seconds of our 1st video ever making this dyno, the purpose of what we do is investigate these torque claims that seem to be getting crazier and crazier. Since we're some of the very few doing that, and the vast majority of people are in a store or on a tool truck handing money over after just looking at the numbers printed on the box, these companies make a lot of money off those numbers. Some brands are more let's say creative than others, if we didnt ding them some points for that then who will?
There's little incentive for any of them to be realistic as it is, we don't want to offer even more encouragement on our rank by giving them a pass. Today these numbers are often in the thousands but the actual output is closer to twice that of the old school 231H gun your dad may have used which is actually amazing power, but not the sky high figures they've grown to today - the original purpose of this channel. Thanks for coming to our TED talk :P
Based on the past claims in the videos the 850 is supposed to be less powerful than the 725a.
✌🏻 what is up bro man sir?
@@Hipsters_N_Hippies We shall see!
You should see how accurate diffrent torque sticks (torque limiting extensions)
Hey I'm not sure how much work it would be but I would love to see the rank list posted somewhere online for people to scroll through and evaluate the best option for them. I've been really enjoying the videos, keep up the great work!
Can you maybe compare stubby Mac and Matco air guns
Amazed you can get that much torque out of a muffler
Since we didn't show it here, the difference with muffler at the "normal" operating pressure instead of a BCS run was a bigger change. 10% there instead of 7% less, 525 ft-lbs compared to 583.
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It's OK, I got the joke, along with John B. :)
"strap-on" tax. The comedy kills me! HAHAHAHA
The difference is that when your SnapOn dealer keeps your gun for 4 months while its being "repaired" meanwhile back at the hall of justice you've bought and rebuilt two earthquakes with some light polishing and vane seal springs.
Or you just take the HF back to the store and they give you a brand new one same day.
your dealer don't have a blacked out demo to loan in the mean time?
@@joshuaspencer6246 From what i've heard snap on is moving away from actual customer service and going the SEARS route, they send it back and you're just fucked until they decide you deserve to get it back or get another one
@@joshuaspencer6246 From firsthand experience, No!! I bought an earthquake and it lasted longer than my fancy Snap-on impact, which did a whopping two months.Dealer gave me no loaner. Last Snap-On purchase I ever made.
Or just buy ingersoll rand lol
Making me have more faith in my harbor freight tools. They are nearly impossible to beat, for the price.
An amazing channel. Another great episode. Surprised at how well the HF did but not surprised by the results.
Gotta say thank you for all the tests you do. HF has this impact on sale for $100 right now and I'll need an impact for my new job and don't think I'll be disappointed for a little while at least.
I've had the original earthquake Eq12c for 5 years and beat the thing to shit. It still runs like the day I bought it. You can still buy them today they only have 800 ft pounds of torque but you can get them for 50 bucks. But if I was going to buy a new impact gun I would get the new advance version that's displayed in this video. I don't know about the new earthquake but I know the original earthquake Eq12c has all the longevity one would want.
@@jimjones4189 Same here. I bought one of the original series 1/2” air Earthquakes. Been using it in a professional shop since the day I bought it. Still works great. I changed all my air hose fittings to high flow. It made a huge difference
I got it on sale for 100 about a month ago. I LOVE it along side the 1/2 eq xt stubby. Perfect combo. Now there is a stronger one that is essentially a Thor but it is 150. Way nicer though I might return mine for it.
Awesome channel guys! Just found it and can't stop watching! Excellent methodology and very interesting results across your videos!
Been waiting for this one, thanks for all the great testing videos! 👍
honestly for the price difference harbor freight is one of the best, its not to heavy it feels nice using it, forward to reverse is very easy. I choose that over a 600$ hammer. btw working at a dealer if my earthquake doesnt take it off 90% of the time neither can a snap on one get it off either. but thats just what ive seen at my shop
The Earthquake impact does whatever I need done. I also have a big rechargeable Kobalt impact from Lowe's that is an absolute monster. I use it at work on the road and It'll take lug nuts off anything I've ever thrown it up against. Great video and channel!
This is the real review I want to see. I’d need to see a long term durability head to head to even consider buying a snap-on. I have a $40 HF impact gun on an un-oiled and un-filtered second hand repaired by me air compressor. So far after about 4 years of use the HF has done anything I’ve thrown at it without a hitch. But I don’t use it every day all day. If I did then I’d probably get the earthquake. Unless it’s going to die within a couple years then maybe I’d invest in a snap-on or something supposedly bulletproof. I can see why for an impact if you work in a shop snap on would be a good option. But that’s about the only snapon I’d consider as almost every other tool is pretty easy to obtain and replace cheaply and still be durable.
Thank you for another great video!
OOoouchie Mama @ 7:44! I kept playing that sound over and over like it was a remix tape. Haha, I liked it.
Great video, very well done. Please keep up the great work.
Great vid. Very informative. Thanks for conducting this test and sharing results! 💯👏🏼👍
Hi, excellent video ty so much, I’m very impressed how the snap on lost so much power with the muffler out! The earthquake did very well in my opinion, ty so much, regards, Bob,
I love my mg725 but we also run 175 psi line pressure. I use the Milwaukee most of the time but I still break out the air with swivels and long extensions.
Is there a link you can give us to view the whole spreadsheet, so we can look at all of the impacts?
Snap on: you too can pay 5X or more for the same Chinese tool!
Become a mechanic and use it everyday. You'll realize the harbor freight is garbage made for a homeowners garage and the snapon will take years of abuse and outperform the harbor freight every day of those years in real conditions
@@BackYardMechanic253 agreed
@@jeffbelton9796 I've gotten garbage from both.
Except the Snap On isn’t made in China nice try.
@@HimmelWeint Except, some Snap on is made in China - Cordless Screwdriver Kit, Variable Speed Polisher, Welding Helmets, Safety Gloves, Air Compressors
I'm telling you one thing, I'm definitely going with the Harbor Freight lol.
It's a good tool!
Yeah snap off have Chines internals any ways
A few ppl did tool tear downs and I seen a few ppl buy them and it fails, and defects right away
Now that’s funny. For the price difference,...me too ; )
@@abeodez751 I bought a used (but new) MG725A in red for $60, a used (but new) PT850 for $125, and an MG325A for $50. I win. Enjoy your harbor freight garbage.
If those two were the only choices then yeah. The 2235 kills both of them and ain't that much more expensive than the HF.......
Is there any way to see the whole list as it currently sits?
I love this channel ! 😍 I can see a lot of people, DIYers as well as techs making buying decisions based on what you post.....But, I think that FT-LBS/$ rating skews the over all score. Couple of things I would like to suggest, one would be to split the Brands column into Air and Battery columns. The second would be to make your chart down loadable or a web page and have each column clickable. Why, 2 examples, DIYer wants to know what the best battery impact is, clicks on battery Brands and using your over all score, best to worst sees what is best.... Or a tech like me clicking on Max Torque and seeing from highest to lowest in both Brands columns who puts out the most bang.
29K subs in six months ! I can see you doing 50K by the end of the year 👍
I got my mg750 10 years ago and have been using it everyday since then. I was very lucky that my dealer got me a demo model and air ratchet for maybe 500-600 dollars at that time? Never ever had any doubts taking thing off with the gun and thankful never had any problems. Still going strong. Now idk about paying 600$ for it now but at that time and at that deal it was well worth it
Have you considered posting the score cards so we could look at them independently ?
Do you ever test for tool-life durability? I'm looking to make some substantial purchases, so I'm not only looking for the best value for torque but also tool-life.
This channel is excellent and I bet it will explode with subscribers in no time. I have an idea... There are some hydraulic press channels that get a LOT of views... If you guys ever start testing hand tools, some destructive testing ( with good methodology & data ) could be very interesting and also entertaining.. a hydraulic press could be useful in many ways, testing how fasteners, tools, etc fail under load. This could extend to things like, jack stands, floor jacks, etc. Just thought I'd throw it out there.
And chance you will be testing the proto impact in the future?
I didn’t think the earthquake would do better than the snap on. Cool stuff you do.
Great video👍🔧
I have owned two snap-on MG725's in my day as a tech. They are fairly powerful yes when given the air and no muffler but the price and the dam adjustment knob is the worst part. Also, they sadly are not that strong to be fair both of mine broke and repairing them cost the same as just buying a new Aircat. I tried my buddy's Aircat 1250K and was sold the moment I touched it! The Aircat was lighter, hits harder, quiet, and cheaper to buy. So I sold my MG725 and bought an Aircat 1250K. Very happy with the results!
Yessss! I'm pumped to watch!
Am I surprised by the results? No. If it came from my SO dealer it would come pre-scratched or dented, so that caught me off guard. I love the work you fellas put into these videos!!!
I switched from Snap-On to Matco a couple of years ago. I'd love to see you offer a chart with a final score that doesn't include price. I use my tools to make money. For me, price doesn't really matter. I don't mind paying $600 for a tool if it's the best tool out there. I get that for home or hobbyist users, price is a big consideration, so this chart is still very meaningful. I'd just also like to know how they score without price being a factor. Thanks for doing these tests.
You don’t care about money? Well then... I have a great air impact that I sell for $567,877,999.00. I will give you a lifetime warranty too. And it definitely won’t be a spray painted harbor freight tool. 😂
@@TsunauticusIV thanks for that. You can go back to your bridge now.
@@aaronbritt2025 interesting. 🤔 A person spewing the ole “I don’t care about money” spiel is labeling me a “troll”. Good one bud. Good one.
@@TsunauticusIV "I don't mind spending $600", does not translate to "I don't care about money". Why are you even here?
Why am I here? I’m a moderator for the channel. Why are you here? To complain? 😂
Have you ever tried twisting the impact side to side while on the dyno? Idk why but sometimes it seems to help with extra rusty bolts. Probably just in my head
I bought HF one and couldn’t even brake a lug nut loose that was stuck had to get breaker bar and pipe. Is it more air setup ?
I have one of those mg725 impacts. Can confirm that the power dial does in fact suck. I left it at max and it will forever remain there.
For that kinda price difference I would expect a much bigger difference in performance as well. Seems to me the HF is a certainly a better value.
I would not necessarily expect worlds of torque difference, what i would expect is that with a minimum of care, that snapon would be functioning just as well after 15 years in a professional shop, while you would be on your 3rd earthquake.
@@TheOystei 3rd more like 20th
I’ve had a few mg725’s over the years and they seem to lose some forward power after a little bit of wear. When I’ve had a new one it seems much more powerful in forward than my last one. I might tear one of the two I have now down and see if I can narrow down the cause.
I had two of them. Within 30 days it lost 50% power. Had it rebuilt under warranty and it did the same within 60 days. They replaced that gun with a brand new one….it lasted less than 6 months, so I traded it in for a Matco gun and it a beast for years. Unfortunately lost that in a garage fire.
I have a new mg1250 3/4 snapon. Can I send it in and have it tested. Seems very powerful in use
I had one of these snap on impacts. Air water separator and oiled daily. Had it rebuilt 3 times in a year and a half. Never again.
Dont surprise me. Three of us young diesel mechanics in the same shop all bought the snapon 1/2 impacts on sale. We all had to warranty them in a couple months. And with no loaners we all now had to buy other impacts. Needless to say, no other mechanics bought more snapon impacts either.
Any chance at seeing a Porter Cable PCC740LA half inch impact? I've been seeing it go on sale for under 160$ with a battery at the old-school independent NAPA I work at, but it really is just a confusing tool. The NAPA website claims both 330 ft-lbs torque, but also 260 in-lbs torque down the page a little (not a typo, that is listed in inch-pounds), while also being listed as a DEWALT line code, and has a 20v MAX battery that for some reason is a completely different design than the Dewalt battery. I just straight up don't understand what this thing is, why it's from a dead brand, or where it fits in on the stack, which makes it more difficult to help inform a customer on which tool is right for them. Is this thing just a DCF889 in different clothes? Is it an actual new tool? Does it actually perform well for the money?
Would be interesting to see old well used impacts tested
Okay, we can do that.
@@TorqueTestChannel Testing how well tools perform after they have been in service for at least 6 to 18 months would be very helpful because, it would let us (the consumers) know what kind of performance we can expect after the tools are broken in. I would love to see these kinds of tests.
Thanks!
@@TorqueTestChannel I have a 5 year old mg725 that has never let me down and may be seen by a few as "neglected"
@@TorqueTestChannel If my shop goes into lockdown again, I can send my 13yo IR 2135ti that's been rebuilt twice lol.
Yep. People see the earthquake perform here new but can it stand up to 6 day weeks with 11 hour days for 10 years?
While the adds play...
I’m guessing the Snap-On wins, but not by 4 to 5 times as much like the price?
Have you considered testing out the Aircat 1200K? I’d be interested in seeing how it compares to the 1250K. We had a guy at work trying to remove an axle bolt from an F30 3 series and his 1150 couldn’t get it done. He was using a breaker bar, a floor jack handle and somebody inside the car holding the brake down…but still cousins get it loose. My buddy used his 1200K and it came out after a few seconds. I know I’ve borrowed his 1200K a few times when my old IR wasn’t capable. So I’m looking at getting the 1200K, but I wondered if the 1250K would be the better option. I haven’t seen any comparisons between the two.
have you ever blown seals by turning the PSI up over the tool spec? just curious if it could happen or if it's easily done. thanks for your time
Never blown a seal, but some have died in the process of using them at 150+
Never blown an impact that way but killed a HF angle grinder on it's second day in use. Might have just been a bad one, but I ended up buying a Husky one to replace it and I still have it.
Is it possible to add Sumake 1/2 impact driver to your list for testing?
Can you try to get a Bosch Freak for testing I have the old model and it's rated lower than my buddies M18 impact driver. Driving screws the M18 is faster and can run larger screws and bolts but the Bosch Freak works better on lug nuts by a noticeable margin. I would send mine but it is old and very well used.
Those harbor freight ones have some muffler stuff installed in them as well, would be interesting to see how it preforms with it removed.
Yeah, it's interesting Snap-On puts it in the box but not the tool when new. Never seen that anywhere else.
My thoughts, also!
I took my muffler out of my ‘mean green’ when I bought it. Use it everyday at the dealership and it’s a pretty badass impact.
I used the earthquake XT at work it is phenomenal in the dealership. And the return policy is so much better than snap-ons it's light years in comparison. Dealing with the tool truck is a nightmare for repairs on impacts. I put the 2-year unlimited warranty on the earthquake and they do not even blink an eye they just hand you a new impact. Broken or not at the end of the warranty. You can just switch it out to get a new one.
I’m still gonna keep the muffler in to save my ears. I think I paid around $500 for it actually, but it’s still overpriced either way. Thanks for treating her nicely!
BP air hammer incoming when I find the right size box for it lol
I use this same EQ for heavy line use and it's definitely torquey but the trigger is like a on or off switch, no progression. Also mine makes a squeaking noise when revving down sometimes probably not a big deal, i oil it every morning too. I will probably upgrade to a ingersoll rand before a tool truck brand!
I did a quick check and may be wrong but has he ever done the consumer thunder gun?
This channel is confirming what I already kinda feel. Which might be confirmation bias, idk. I have some Snap-On, I have some HF. I have used all manner of stuff at work. If you're gonna use a tool day in, day out, every job, just get the good stuff. If you're going to have a tool that *absolutely* has to work, get Snap-On. If it's an occasional use tool, sure go with something else to save money, but don't delude yourself they're in any way meeting the standard.
I think there is also a component to the high price that some don’t consider. Yeah... snap on is considerably more expensive but you’re also spending that extra money on supporting US made products. Yeah, some of their products are made overseas but from the research I’ve done... most(if not all) the air impacts on the trucks are still US made. You’re supporting our local economy and keeping our fellow citizens employed by purchasing US made stuff. Of course I support helping other countries too. I just try to keep in mind the aspects of why US made products cost more... and I try to justify the high price in my mind by thinking that I’m helping our own out. Lol. Cheers bud
@@TsunauticusIV that's actually a really good point. Utilikilts (made in Seattle) cost much more than Chinese made ones because they pay their employees a living wage.
snap on is not the best. It is over priced and the warranty is sht. I am a professional dealership tech and use as little snap on as possible. I have not had any problems with my HF tools. hell, s/o would not warranty my expensive flex head ratchet when the comfort grip kept coming off! not only that, they could not repair it! My Pittsburgh and Gearwrench are way better. Also the only sockets i ever broke were snap on.
Generally speaking, It just goes to show that regarding air impact tools , its all about the air volume running through the tool and with cordless impact tools, its all about the current /mAh battery. You hear so much from users and manufacturers about the specs of their tools, yet they Never state air volume/psi requirements to obtain optimum or even adequate results ! Edit: noticed some cfm requirements on the Thor video ; however, you must look for it. 6 - 6.5 cfm , that's a 5hp 80 gal. tank - minimum air supply ! Thank you for the video / information!
I got my HF eq xt on sale for 100 about a month ago. I love it along side the 1/2 eq xt stubby i got for 80. Perfect combo. Now there is a stronger one that is essentially a Thor but it is 150. Way nicer though.
I would love to see you guys get your hands on an impact that is used in Nascar for changing tires. I wonder what those guns put out for torque.
Those guns are only sold to nascar teams but I’m almost certain they are IR guns that probably will outperform any impact from any store or tool truck. I would imagine over 1000 ft/lb
Thoes guns are all about speed.
They were not designed to nor do they ever have to turn a nut to any substantial tq number.
What good would 1000ft lbs be if you were trying to take off and put on a lug nut that gets torqued to around 100ft lbs.
@@kennethfoster8020 it’s called the Thunder-Gun. It’s made by Ingersoll and it does make 1000ft-lbs, it spins at 15,000rpm, runs on compressed nitrogen… and it costs $1,500.
@@jamesarnold7636 Jesus imagine all the drain plugs and oil filters you can install with that beast and the speed in which you can install them at.
@@SquirrellyDan88 according to Ingersoll Rand they use the thundergun which is just really fast.... They don't care about 1000 ft lbs
Just a thought. Was thinking about the Paoli DP4000MG $6,500 impact wrench used in this weekends formula 1 race in monaco. What if you also ran high pressure nitrogen through like a quality gun to see what's the max torque you could get before the gun's casing failed. I heard they run the f1 guns at 1000 psi.
Have def wanted to. Cost and it would break this dyno have stopped that line of thinking tho hah!
Anyone have an ideas for tightening torque specs through the first 2 settings?
the PSI is a formula of Line Pressure times x Area. if the claim is same and area is the same for the given line pressure you have to consider that the insides don't flow the same. Could be the choke, or air escape release holding back the lesser performer. But could also be that the internals are less meticulous.
I wouldn't have my snapon impact if I hadn't gotten such a good deal on a used one that was less than a month old. Our old dealer always had a used box at the back of his truck with killer deals.
Well, that cinches it, I’m taking the muffler out of my 2135QTiMAX this weekend and leaving it out after I clean and rebuild it.
Can we test the earthquake aluminum 1/2" impact? Budget model, but it has been highly regarded as underrated for years. Rated 700lb ft max and only 800lb ft of nut busting
Ryobi is coming out with an One+ High Torque 1/2 inch impact wrench... Can't wait to see your test on it...
Been asking them for an ETA. No news
While I couldn’t afford that snap on. I definitely agree it did better then that earthquake impact. I have to say I love watching earthquakes beat snap on. Although I do think a lot of channels know that. And they like posting content that shows it. I’m not sure if they do it purposely making the snap on lose or if it’s just the way they use it. But I like the unbiased videos you make and show.
Back in July I got the HF Earthquake XT very similar to yours, except the one I got was advertised at 1200 ft. lbs. Torque and was orange. It did the job for the most part, but the gun would sometimes choke, occasionally pushed the direction button by accident, and I often had to get my co-worker's Snap-on impact to loosen stubborn lug nuts (I work in a tire shop). And yes, I oiled it EVERY DAY I USED IT.
Yesterday I went on the Snap-on truck and got myself a PT850G because I was fed up with my HF one not being strong enough. It's advertised as having less torque than what the HF was advertised as having, but in my experience the HF one was a disappointment.
I love my XT . Price was right too. I do want the new Matco gun too, but that is 600 bucks and seems to be the one to beat.
This stuff is so interesting, same with USCSB videos.
I have both snap on impact and I like the mg 725 way more then the other one
What size compressor did you use for your test?
👍thanks for video
Could you try the 24V Kobalt impact, I have many of the kobalt tools and they outperform my sons dewalt’s.
Send one in
Could you please do a test of torque sticks or sockets
I'd like to see how the cheaper Harbor Freight impacts stack up to the XT version. I bought one of the Earthquake impacts back when they first came out. The one they're selling for $89 on clearance now. I think they advertised 750 ft-lbs back then, but now it's up to 800. I don't know if it matches that torque claim, but it really surprised me how good it was regardless given the price point. Also, one I've never used, that $47 silver one there looking an awful lot like a clone of the old tried and true IR guns, which honestly don't seem as good as my Earthquake from what I remember of them (my brother had one of those back in the '90s). It would be cool to know how that really cheap one stacks up as well. Since they're on clearance they might be discontinuing them as well, so might want to get those reviews in before it's too late.
Nice I was thinking about getting one I’m not worried about it loosing power at the end that much as long as it’s good at the beginning if you got a rusted bolt or nut 🔩 anyways by time it does pan out I’m sure it will be turning anyways and 600.00 just for a little better doesn’t seem logical anyways
Would like to see a long term test to see how other units do long term. . We all know the snap on is known to last for decades, how long will the others last.
I have the hf it cool just uncomfortable. I bought the new snap on pt850 😑 I should've just stuck with the hf and my high torque.
I am sure you said and I didn't hear it but what air pressure are you testing at? Also good video 👍
90psi running with the trigger pulled, then 150 psi static line pressure for bcs test. It goes down based on tool air consumption usually 20-28psi
The push button fwd reverse lossens up to a nice level with some use
I know this is a torque test channel and you do an incredible job reporting real
World figures. BUT! Another figure to consider would be how does torque hold up over the life of the tool. Out of box figures are important for consumer knowledge, but the longevity of the tool also plays an important factor in determining a purchase for many of us when it comes to tools.
Problem is that's really hard to test comparatively. In a real world...nearly impossible
What happened is harbor freight detuned there earthquake xls the old ones would absolutely kill snap on for half drive vs halfdrive. The detuned them so they can last. We kept busting the snap ring emds and the sockets would go flying.
Do you guys ever test mac impacts?
where can we get your spreadsheet? Is there a place to download it?
Im not sure i could justify 4x the cost for about 10% more power. It remains to be seen if the strap on would last 4x longer. Im running the airkat 1150 casual use and do like it.
Use a high flo fitting in the snap on gun my rep told me that’s how snapon rates them high flow fitting with 3/8 air lines with no step downs . I set my bay up with a high flow line it wakes that MG725 up big time
We use 100% hi flo on everything :p
U should also add in noise readings to the data
Hey guys, it would be cool to see the two types of impact sockets tested. The shiny kind, and the chalk board kind. (As I have forgotten what the actual metals are) You get what I mean? I hate the feel of the chalkboard sockets, I only use the shiny ones.
Gotchu ua-cam.com/video/LeFf5zzjYw4/v-deo.html
Everytime I sell a MG725A I recommend the hi-flow fitting if ran on a 1/4 hose
Also curious on the PT850, they’re mostly the same insides but I’ve had bad luck with them on shitty air compressors
MG can live with some moisture in the lines but the PT is a picky girl, lookin Forward to the video
Who's ignorant enough to run a 1/2" impact on a 1/4" airline? Umm just don't
my old Earthquake has lasted 20 years now! And I abused it hard at the dealership. the 89$ red 1/2 Earthquake it what I use professionally. if you want a good gun just get one of these.
Just bought a Snap-On MG725 (the original one) used for £39.99/$55.28 from a pawn shop or cash converter as we call it in England lol. Will take delivery of it in a few days so fingers cross it all works ok, I will most likely take it apart anyway to see if anything needs cleaning and or replacing then oiling. Less than a 10th of the price new so hopefully I can get my moneys worth out of it. I might actually do a restoration on if i can get the correct paint colour for it.
Does adding oil make a difference in the torque numbers?
It does, only briefly after you add it. Unless it was really needing it.
That’s something I’ve actually wondered myself. Wondered if it was possible to “over-oil” as well. That’s a fantastic question! Thank you for the comment.
I have always heard it helps and usually add extra if I'm working on something difficult. It can't hurt, right...or can it?
@@benmudn A WHOLE lot can hurt the gun since air compresses in the air cylinder and oil does not. But generally not too risky
Can you guys try with the newer Kobalt 1000??
Would it be possible to test the open end of wrenches on your test rig? I do alignments for a living and my Harbor Freight wrenches spread and slip on a stuck tie rod. I will be upgrading to either Snap-on, Matco, or MAC, but everyone else in the shop seems to have their own opinions on brands. It would be awesome to see which brand could turn the most torque before slipping!
Hmm that would be interesting
Is there a place I can see your rank list?
My boy makin that snapon dollars now
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2:46 Without viewers sometimes sending us tools like this one, videos like this would not be possible!
If you can try Chicago Pneumatic CP7748
Thank you fir doing the mg725. I’ve used it in a class 8 shop for 12 years now and love it. It just works and that’s worth the extra money. My cp and ir have been demoted to home use due to issues over time having to be rebuilt several times and loosing power
Have you thought about doing testing on performance degradation over time? One common argument is that while a cheap impact tool performs acceptable when new, the tool will inevitably lose performance more rapidly as the impacting mechanism wears; more so than a 'premium' impact will gradually lose performance.
Aside from leaving new impacts running for a set time on a jig, I'm not sure how to quantify the wear.
The impact mechanism is so easy to make durable, I doubt the cheaper one will wear out much faster. They both need hard durable steel to create the hammer impact force to get the job done. A less durable steel will be less powerful.
Back years ago, I bought the mg725 and it was to be a magnesium body but once it got ran over and saved my
I’ve, the snap on dealer said it would too expensive to replace the magnesium body and rebuild it gun but when I ordered all the parts to completely rebuild the gun it came in aluminum and I was able to rebuild the gun and body with all the Parts from the build sheet for under $40. That’s the body, o-rings and gaskets. When I asked why the part number for the body came as an aluminum body and not a magnesium body, I was told that the snap on dealer said he was told that, that’s what they were told……….!!!???
When I've had stubborn bolts I'd put a crap ton of oil in the gun and that first quick blast would usually break it free. I'd say it's because oil doesn't compress like air but it'd be cool to see what difference it actually makes.
Well, it's either going to break the nut loose or break the gun.. Doesn't make sense either as the power comes from the expansion of the air pushing against the blades on the rotor. By taking up space with oil, you've just got less air to expand.
You sure you're gun doesn't just have worn out blades that are being sealed by the excess oil? Would be similar to the ol' drop a cap of oil into the cylinder to see if the compression returns to normal, thus indicating ring seal issues.
I suspect the boatload of oil is filling the seals up tighter. And maybe lowering friction slightly more. Don’t think it has anything to do with compression of oil. As more PSI but less surface area to act on the rotor.
@@MooCow2X2 🤣So like, exactly what I said?
@@ryanokeefe12 Air doesn't expand it's the pressure that turns the blades. The only way for air to expand is a loss of pressure. Think of it as turning an air gun into a hydraulic gun.
@@bcd2107 I think you might want to have a look in to things a little more.. the rotor is offset to the cylinder. As each section between the blades rotates, the section that contains the pressurised air becomes larger. This takes advantage of the air pressure and continues to provide rotating force that would otherwise be wasted if the energy of the expanding air wasn;t utilised..
If what you were saying was true, pressure wouldn't be needed, just air speed... Hydraulic fluid doesnt compress under pressure, so there is obviously no reason to utilise an expansion chamber to continue providing force.
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Air pressure is the name of the game with pneumatics. Just like bigger batteries with electric guns.
Ever person I've met who complained about an air gun being weak, runs it on a small compressor with small fittings and or they regulate it.
Your paying for durability with snap on. I've run my snap on guns at 180psi unregulated air for a lot of years with 0 complaints.
Would love to see a garbage freight last 6 months in the same shop set up.
SnapOn fanbois just can't cope with all the Ls they've been taking between this channel and Shoptoolreviews. (where a mid-torque SO with a much bigger 18V battery loses to a subcompact M12, lol)
You can get the same durability from an IR or Aircat. And you don't have to get buttraped in the process of buying them.
protip: stop buying overpriced trash power tools from a hand tool company and you won't have to come to the comments section on a UA-cam channel feeling like you need to defend your purchases at every turn.
Btw where's the durability when it comes to SO's cordless power tools? Everything except their auto ratchets is built like shit compared to Makita, Milwaukee and Dewalt. And they give you a worse warranty on top of it all too.
For us normal people, the tests with snap-on tools are interesting and just prove their performance doesn't reflect their price. For snap-on junkies, tests are pointless because snap-on will always be the best and you're wrong 🤣
On another note though; it would be good to see something like warranty period rather than the claimed/reality metric. The warranty period (in most cases) gives a rough idea of anticipated life span, though in snap-ons case, your initial purchase covers the cost of 2 replacements.
I like that you're making the point that the stated numbers need to be more accurate, but in terms of performance metrics, I wouldn't really consider claimed vs reality numbers influencing the purchase.
It's less about performance (though they have some of the most granular and precise ratchets I've ever used) and more about longevity. 10 years from now that Snap-On gun will still get the job done as good as it ever has, whereas the HF gun will likely have already shit the bed some years prior.