Harbor Freight's Highest Torque Impact Ever
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Today we take a look at Harbor Freight's new 3/4" Cordless Impact, the Hercules Gen 2 HCB95B for just $200 which isn't a lot these days for a 3/4" impact. So can it keep up with it's competition? Even top them in their 3/4" model slumber? We find out!
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Hercules, Milwaukee, and DeWhat?
did he stutter?
Speak on it 🗣️, love when people's grammar gets corrected I always hear it instantly
DeTheseNutz 😁
@@MrRightNowHAHAHAHAHA
Okay that 12Ah Hercules difference was unexpected. Wow!
Plus, if you buy the Herc, you get a 5 ah battery free right now. You'd still need a charger, but this makes the deal even sweeter.
The charger is pretty expensive. I just use a bench power supply and feed it 21v at 2 amps. Works well!
Team yellow reporting in. I recently picked up the latest HF Hercules 1/2" ultra torque for $190 with a free 5ah battery. It's been a great tool since I got it, and it buzzes off axle nuts without any hesitation. Their impact driver and drill motor have also been working great for me. They were $97 for each kit, coming with a 2ah battery and charger, plus a coupon for a free 2.5ah battery. In total I've spent under $400 and got 3 tools, 5 batteries, and 2 chargers. I use these tools in a heavy industrial construction setting, so I suspect their durability will test the warranty before it expires.
Same, I've been buying up the tools from them lately because the deal is too good. I also have Milwaukee M18 and M12 tools but I found it too hard to justify the difference in price anymore
@@dcxSpartan117Same here. I’ve got Milwaukee 18 and 12v but, the price has just gotten out of hand. Not sure they’re worth it anymore. We shall see, got my first Hercules the other day and darned if I’m not impressed on feel and fit out of the box. Wow
As long you purchased brushless tools you're looking at a 5 year warranty. 3 year on the batteries.
Thanks for posting your mini review, I was on this video debating buying a Hercules with three current deal. I needed it to bust some axle nuts and your review described exactly what I needed to hear to push me into buying. (Along with the data in this video).
Thank you
You mentioned the cost of the Hercules with the 5ah battery and charger, but currently when you purchase the 3/4 impact you get the 5ah battery for free! Instead of adding $79 to the price, that's more like subtracting $79 from the $199 price. I would say BUY THE HERCULES right now! That's a deal that can't be beat!!!!!
Nice!
They don't typically count promotional deals because those can and do change, so it could radically shift the rankings every time a new sale started at HD or HF. Still, that does make an already quite attractive deal look even better right now...
Charger 🔌 129.99 $ 😂
Damn. Ework brought the beans, but hell if harborfreight isnt coming out swinging for the fences lately. How shocking is that? 10yrs ago harborfreight powertools were largely the butt of many jokes, now they are competing and BEATING on the big guys.
Was really expecting that hercules to cross 900 with 5ah pack, yet it sounds like it was struggling at the end with 12ah so seems that this tools is maxed out at 900, but still hella impressive.
And now the devil red Milfukee has become the joke.. ha! I love it
Meh, initial performance is only half the story. What matters to many people is how long it keeps working at the less demanding tasks they throw at it. In other words, only an idiot tries to max out their tools and then calls them crap when they fail. Testing/benchmarks are of course a different story, as it is still great to have that data but when talking about off-brand consumer grade, I still consider many of Harbor Freight's power tools to be sub-par even for their price point. If it costs 30% less but only lasts half as long, is that economy or wasteful? I see them as very rare occasion use tools.
@@stinkycheese804I fully agree on that. I absolutely would recommend these things for the weekend warrior, or keeping in a place where theft is an issue, but I'm not replacing my proven M12 and M18 tools any time soon, nor will I be replacing my red and blue welding machines with Vulcan or whatever Amazon's choice is this week. I'm generally a buy once, cry once kind of guy. The warranty you don't have to use is the better one.
@@stinkycheese804with a 5 year no hassle warranty longevity shouldn’t really be an issue
If I had to guess, the Ework did better with specific batteries and produce LESS work with The Beans because of hammer skipping. In a sense, you're tuning the hammer/motor speed ratio by swapping packs.
The Ework is a deal!!! $239 right now with a battery and charger. The 1/2 inch version is $150.
It's actually an exciting tool; very modern looking and putting pressure on the name brands with those numbers.
To be clear the 1/2" version is like a mid torque and we havent tested it before. And $240-290 is A LOT for an amazon sourced tool kit. That said, its battery is unusually good and crosses over to Makita LXT. And it embarrasses any LXT impact currently, so that's pretty cool. They also have a 1 year warranty
Yeah, I'm sure longevity is suspect, but that's still a good price IMO. Thanks for the update with the half inch. I didn't realize that because the Milwaukee 1/2 inch is similar to the 3/4 in output.@@TorqueTestChannel
Using the Home Depot hack I got the new Rigid HiTorque, 2 Batteries and a charger for 180 doll hairs
@@jacobtgn6394how does the hack work?
You had every opportunity to call the "Vikky with the DeWalt battery" the "Dikky" and totally dropped the ball.
😂😂😂😂
I think out of all of those I would go with the hercules just because it has a 5yr warranty and I can walk into any store and get it replaced even though it is more than the amazon models
"Our girl Vikky here is our first victim" is a wild ass statement 😭
@@dancearoundtheworld5360what news?
@@ITroopTheSpace island news
These episodes with the highly unexpected results are crazy! Good stuff.
Man I love when its Friday and TorqueTestChannel drops a video with Hercules tool in it! Keep up the great work!
So do I, Hercules was a huge shock to me and they have been taking all the punishment too!
That "Vicky" impact is sold under so many different names it's insane.
But the company who manufactures that gun in China also has one of your favorite big-dog mini-gun impacts like the IR and Milwaukee.
I want to see that ework battery in a makita grinder!
Requires the hulk to remove? Dropped the ball on that one... Hercules? Hello? Haha great video.
Those EWorks defeated the stormtroopers on the forest moon of Endor though...
Hercules has a deal on right now for the half and 3/4 high torques you get a free 5 ah battery. So for like 200 bucks you get the high torque comparable to the big boys and a 5ah battery.
I know people will always continue to joke about Hercules being a Harbor Freight brand and all. But they bash DeWalt, Milwaukee and so on all the time as well. So far I love all of the Hercules tools I've picked up. Most of the time getting a good deal because someone else returned it. Either because it wasn't what they wanted or bought it for a single use purpose and got a refund. I have the little 3" cut-off tool and mainly use a 4Ah battery on it. So far anything involving the need to cut metal it has worked good. I also picked up one of the new Hercules brushless drills a few months ago that was a return and it has a lot of power to it. I also finally got to use my 7-1/4" brushless circular saw and it's amazing how quiet it is. Especially when comparing it to our old corded 15 amp saws that want to blow out your ear drums.
You're trying to lump everyone together as "people" when it is opposite, that those who joke about Hercules, are those who tend to gravitate towards one of the major contractor grade brands, are a different group of people.
If you're getting your money's worth out of Hercules, that's great, but there is sufficient evidence to support that paying more, does tend to have benefits if you choose wisely.
Love your video after watching a few vid with the Hercules I'm still buying it next week I work on tractor trailers and I'm sold especially with that warranty too
Really impressive and cool to see an amazon brand not only punch well above its weight, but to do so with its kit battery. If off-brand companies can get that down, hopefully the big brands will consider themselves on notice...
The Ework is manufacturer by Chinese company called ruiba they have a collation of impact wrenches with same model number as Ework apparently they made a decent tools.
Love the test as always. Any chance that you are going to do cordless SDS soon? Need to buy one.
On it
REALLY interesting! Keep up the good work!
Just wanted to say thank you for testing these. If harbor freight sees these things, your channel is the reason I bought it, and I am very happy with it. Another person mentioned that it would be better for them to include the 4ah "extreme" battery for free instead of the 5ah "extended" but nevertheless the 5ah took off a bolt that I couldn't get off using any of my other air or cordless wrenches, heck not even a cheater bar. This took it off as easily as unscrewing a ketchup bottle. Mine had a very tight fitting 3/4 anvil also, but I suppose that eliminates any torque losses because of a slight "wobble" from a looser connection.
Damn...Hercules is a pretty sweet deal, especially considering their new extended brushless tool warranties, and ease of warranty use. I just wish their mid-torque had more oomph. If I needed a high-torque impact, I might strongly consider Hercules. Currently my chunky Makita LXT Mid-Torque is more than enough for the things I use it for.
can't believe that makita xgt is 450 in the US, it is still around 250 in the EU. Although I would argue that for such a professional tool price is less important unless it is outright insulting (like snap-on for eg)
Also could you maybe open this eworks pack to see what cells they are using? That would be really interesting!
Agreed on all points
@@TorqueTestChannel 👍 thanks for another awesome video!
@@riba2233 The Ework pack just straight up wont open, i think it's glued together
@@TorqueTestChannel wow that is whack but I don't know why I expected anything more 😅 now I am even more intrigued haha! Thanks for giving it a shot, much appreciated :)
What kind of spot weld do you use when building batteries and how thick nickelstrip? Love your show!
From sweden!
Slowly shifting my kit to Hercules.
Whoa, what will the Milwaukee cult say?
As a mazda tech, my whole kit is hercules
Hercules, Hercules!
Same. Can’t beat the price and the warranty .as a class 7 mobile tech I can never track down a snap on truck to get stuff swapped out.
Yep, been doin’ the same for a while now!
That Vikky battery looks an awful lot like a Bosch. Perhaps the profactor 8 or 12 fits?
That's what I said. I hardly ever leave comments but I've left comments for this channel twice now. They don't seem to think about Bosch.
@@MykelPlayer I kinda chalk it up to Bosch not being well represented in local stores and not having much focus on automotive.
When are you doing torque multipliers?
Custom made impact extensions for minimal torque loss
Interesting! I would like to see 'area under the line' for work done as well as max torque figure on the rank table too.
Any data showing what makita lxt tools make with an adaptor and a Milwaukee battery? Can’t find this in any video.
Thanks
would you think that trying the FSYAO dewalt impact would be better than getting a used dewalt impact with similar torque specs?
Thank you again for your vids! Am tempted to purchase the HF 3/4 battrry gun. We are using to change semi truck tires, 33mm 1/2 drive, super deep new snappy socket , with HF battery gun. We run into some over torqued sockets, galled with magchloride, and have to drap out inch drive pneumatic gun to remove nuts. We also have in shop new high torque 2767 milwaukee, that will not remove stubborn nuts. Any inputs?
Hey mate, could you test the Aeropro Air impact AP9515? the 1/2" stubby or do we know what design it is?
Looking forward to seeing the new Ingersoll Rand 3/4 cordless impact. W8171
Felt like i saw a 1" variant of it as well. Haven't seen W8171 for sale anywhere
W8191 is the 1”, Same tool just different anvil. Think it’s available to order now but not shipping for a few weeks
@@BrewBry The 1" just looks so much cooler. But the 3/4" might be more impressive in comparisons
@@TorqueTestChannel agree completely, looking forward to seeing one on TTC
Hey can you ymtest ridgid 3 or 4 node new impact driver? And I love the channel you guys are amazing really
Hey TTC, love your work. Id love to see you test the new BL4040F high output 40V battery to see if it helps the 40V makita inpacts.
We dont have them here in the states
Love this channel dude
i really want to see your power tool collection and your charging setup. I image those black and yellow tubs from the home depot for the tools
Wow, the EWORK is a complete surprise. I am curious if their 1/2" impact is impressive too 🤔. As usual, great episode and keep up the good work!
A 3/4" impact wrench with 1/2" adapter, would the adapter remove any torque advantage to simply using the 1/2"?
I would love to see you guys test some of the CAT power tools. I also really want to see how their graphene battery stacks up against the competition. I am not sure if you can get the battery yet though.
I had a quick question about the Dewalt 10ah battery.
Does it have the same 21700 cells as the 9ah flex volt? I can’t seem to find whether it does or not online so I was wondering if you knew by chance.
will you guys test the newish IR impact with the swappable anvils?
A video of what batteries are cross compatible with what other tools would be nice. Maybe even revisit third party compatible batteries. It looks like the clones are arriving and they're doing pretty good. Are the patents on the battery/tool connectors expiring?
Agreed. I already have DeWalt batteries. Be good to know what is compatible in an easy to read chart.
@@wiredforstereo nothing ....except for a very few amazon tools.Its the makita that works with most amazon garbage.In general batteries are not cross compatible....only the no name amazon so no point in making a video about it..
They arent cross compatible...theres a 100 no name amazon tools that no one really cares about so no point in a video.The amazon junk works with makita usually....thats all you need to know..
@@djsi38t I have thought of using Craftsman batteries on DeWalt stuff, the batteries used to be far cheaper, but seems like they jacked up the price around Christmas.
I need to see DeWalt officially release a 3/4" drive of the DCF961, if only to sate my morbid curiosity! I loved seeing the modded tool perform in a previous video.
Can you do some comparison for rotary hammers? I am mostly curious about the SDS-plus ones. There is a spicy one from Bosch: 18V-34 (CF or whatever) -- it is basically an SDS-max hammer with SDS-plus bits. Wonder how that fairs.
So then would you recommend the gen 2 High impact Hercules or save some cash and get the first gen one? I'm considering on getting one right now at my local harbor frieght
Any testing on the milwaukee pistol grip 1" with the new forge battery?
How does the 3/4” Milwaukee do with the new forge battery?
wow! That Ework and the Chinese DeWALT knockoff totally caught me by surprise! That was crazy lol
Keep it up , great stuff. If you had to buy one everyday dewalt battery what would it be?
For impact drivers and other small drills and tools, the 1.7 powerstack. That thing is sweet.
For EVRYTHING? I'm not sure they have a golilocks battery. The 9 flexvolt is their best but also as heavy as any 12Ah. I'd say maybe the 6XR
Only asking as our batteries in Canada are very expensive
Can you help explain why my M18 milwaukee 1/2 inch, setting 3, using a torque stick 90 ft/lb, only shoots at 55-60 ft/lbs? I measured it with a torque stick at 90ft/lbs and I still had so much room of play before it ticked. I used harbor and freight torque extention
How about trying the Bosch 3/4” dr impact wrench?
Hey guys I love your channel! I seen the. Dcf900 for $270 with a 5amphour recently! Its probable you have done this video, but my question is how big of torque losses are you seeing if your take a 900 or 961 and put a 1/2 to 3/4 adapter on the end. Thank you!
7%, not bad
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Not sure if you have one, but could we maybe start testing the M18 tools with the forge 6.0 battery for the increased beans with spicier packs test.
Can you guys test the xgt with 5ah? That's less capacity than the 12ah you use of the Hercules
Truly appreciate the time and effort you put into your tests! Have you considered some longevity/endurance testing? The performance tests are awesome, however the true value of a tool also includes how long it lasts in practical usage. Would like to see some real life type usage cycles of drills, impact drivers and impact wrenches, etc. Including environmental influences, repeated light, medium and heavy use cycles. Longevity testing would provide valuable information to determine when budget tools are really a value or not. Unfortunately, practical testing would require significant time, effort and creativity. If the practical testing is not an option, maybe you could just provide your opinions based on your experiences with the various tools and brands. Thanks again for all you do to help us make well informed decisions with our tool purchases.
Can you do a gen 3 vs a gen 4 Milwaukee m18 hammer drill, I bought a gen 3 thinking it was a gen 4 just wondering if I should return it
Have you tried hikoki power tools
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So what are your thoughts on the DCF961 3/4 monstrosity you made vs the Hercules....I'm in the market for a 3/4 battery impact and currently run mostly dewalt and milwaukee for my battery platforms but have some old rigids and snap ons etc....What would your choice be between those 2? I don't like how the dewalt will look janky from boring out the nose and possibly allow debris into the tool prematurely but I already have alot of dewalt batteries on hand.... on the other hand there's no time like currently to buy into the hercules platform (now that its getting better) and its relatively cheap but i still have to pull out a HF tool on the jobsite on top of the less power and larger investment due to having to grab a few 6amp or a 12amp Hercules battery+charger...I've been trying to debate those 2 when you dropped the dewalt video a month ago and still haven't made a choice just been gettijg by with pneumatic or dewalt dcf900 1/2inch which is dang near a 3/4 itself
Finally, I've been waiting for this
Can you guys test the Mass Fabricator wrench set, claims it's the best open ended wrench sets and thier made from ar500
Is this Hercules 3/4 the same as the 1/2 just with the 3/4 drive, or are there other changes?
Same from what we can tell. But some impact mechanisms are tuned for 1/2" and some are well just sort of tuned for a general good enough and it ends up suiting 3/4" better.
Id be interested seeing overdrive from craftsman compared to macs rbrt
Isn’t it the same thing? Most of my collection is Mac, but at 53, I’m done buying tool truck priced tools. Most of my tools are Made in USA, but I picked up the Overdrive wrenches to try them out.
@gwall1789 they appear almost identical hence why I was interested. Despite looking the same I was interested to see if they had any hardness difference heat treatment etc. That would cause a different performance due to one having a higher quality control than the other
Are there any Makita 18v batteries out there that are recommended over the standard kit ones? Besides building your own? I'd love to see a shootout of all the noname ones you can get your hands on
They're all terrible, this was definitely a surprise and outlier
Can you review tacklife impact wrench too.✌️
I want to see a comparison of used impacts. Obviously there are a ton of variables but it would be cool to see how they hold up
Yeah, I'd like to see use-at-rated-load-until-failure testing, but of course they don't have the time to do that. Unfortunately that is far more what i care about. I rarely have tools fail within the warranty but really don't want to EVER have to replace them, the exception being NiCd based cordless just to move to Li-Ion, but then I have started investing in Ryobi and theirs are backwards compatible so...
Do you think the Dewhat 1/2 would be good to use with flexvolt 9.0 batteries for taking off lug nuts ???
The DCF900 yeah, anything lower I'd stick with a smaller battery
The DCF900 works fine taking off truck/bus lug nuts without the 9.0 Flexvolt. We have 3 of them. We use 6.0XR, 5.0 PowerStack and 6.0 FlexVolt batteries. They all work great.
Will the Ework battery work in a Makita tool?
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Just shows how far advanced the Makita XGT is... it hit bigger numbers like 3 year ago. But you could buy a couple Hercules for that kinda money.
That e works looks surprisingly professionally made. I like it
Imagine making your 1/2 impact more powerful than your 3/4. Two most popular brands. The mind boggles.
I'm really curious about these Harbor Freight 3/4 and 1 '' air impacts. For such a (relatively) cheap price is it worth throwing in the toolbox of a non-heavy duty mechanic's arsenal? And could it even run off a standard shop air hose with say a 55-gallon air compressor. And if you can't keep up a sustained 150 or even 100 psi, how much loss is there VS a half inch. Is there a point where the half inch comes out ahead in a battle of limited line pressure?
Would love to see some of this tested.
Hello can you please review seesii WH500 the 650nm 1/2 inch
You should do a video on 1” extended anvil tire guns, cordless and air
What is 1st and 2nd. on the list?
Now I want to buy those EWORK batteries for my Makita tools but they probably have a terrible BMS and will not last long, and the risk of explosion is significantly higher. But since they won't charge on the Makita charger maybe they have a proprietary BMS that is actually good.
Test out the hazett 3/4 impact. Pls
Have you guys ever tried the earthquake xt air ratchet from hobo freight I got one and it’s decent you could try against other air ratchets
Thank you (Again) for bringing truth to our journey
I wish i could switch my DeWalt's hog ring setup out for a detent pin. Its been almost a year of.use snd its still a nightmare to remove sockets.
You're not kidding about 2024 being Wild! Did I seriously just witness that? I was thinking about upgrading to the new Dewalt 1/2" (even though I can't get it in the Mac Tools Red 😒) but now I might try that Fsyao... 🤔
subscribed! you bunch of nerds, keep the good work going!
Why doesn't anyone use the Bosch BiTurbo in testing, as you always put up the dewalt 40v flex volt
I wish you would put the Forge battery on the Milwaukee tools in these comparisons.
They made a whole video on Forge battery's and what they could and couldnt do.
It looks like EWORK needs to be involved in some more tests. Can you test their 1/2”?
Are you saying the ework batteries will work on Milwaukee M18 tools?
Negative
Thanks, too bad!@@TorqueTestChannel
It looks like you can't get that ework battery on its own. But still it would be interesting to see how it works on various lxt tools, because even buying it every time with the 3/4 that could be a good buy for makita users.
Please do a video on the milwaukee 3062-20
Anyone got a UK link to the Dewhat or a similar tool?
I’d like to see you compare different impact sockets and how that may effect tork?
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Did the shipping label on the 'Ewok' show an Endor address?
Harbor freight also came out with a new compact 3/8 and 1/2 inch hercules impacts. I kinda want to see them tested and I actually bought a 3/8 along with their hi-torque. It was the last one on the shelf.
Love watching the test. Even if Milwaukee loose a test I'm still buying the Milwaukee, they have been so reliable for me even after hundreds and hundreds of semi truck wheels my 3/4 and the original Batts I've had for over 5 years all still work as I remember from new
These guys hate Milwaukee 😂 why not put the forge on the 3/4 ????
Interesting results. Makes me want the Amazon (dewhat) even though i don't have a use for 3/4 haha
Vikky and the EWOKs, sounds like Star Wars cartoon..
Curious what the difference on the Milwaukee would be with a Forge battery.