Gas pump shut off early? SOLVED! Entire evap system explained & troubleshoot on 2005 Chevy Suburban
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Part 1 of 4 videos on fixing the gas pump shut off early problem. Likely there is a problem with the "evap" system which commonly fails on Chevy Tahoe and Suburban from 1997-2006. Check engine lights and issues putting gas into the tank where the pump clicks and won't allow any more gas are common symptoms of an evap system issue. My vehicle is a 2005 Chevy Suburban LTZ, 5.3L Flex fuel, 2WD.
Links to parts in this video:
* ACDelco 22963841 Vapor Canister (amzn.to/2BptRP9)
* ACDelco 214-2149 Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid (amzn.to/2Zt9ZTa)
* ACDelco 214-1105 Vapor Canister Purge Valve (amzn.to/31xsk44)
Evap system fix videos:
Part 1: Entire evap system explained & troubleshooting ( • Gas pump shut off earl... )
Part 2: How to replace vapor canister ( • Replace vapor canister... )
Part 3: How to replace vapor canister vent solenoid ( • Install vapor canister... )
Part 4: How to replace vapor canister purge valve ( • Replace vapor canister... )
This may also apply to the Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon, GMC Yukon XL.
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Thanks for the video! I replaced the canister first, clogging continued. Replaced the Canister switch, clogging continued! Thanks to your great description of the system, I was able to unclog the vent line from the tank. The vent line is the long one with the white connectors that is connected to the white fitting on top of the tank. I did not drop the fuel tank. I just disconnected the connector from the charcoal cannister, inserted a smaller hose attached to my shop vacuum and started sucking the charcoal bits ( about a cup of charcoal). Used my leaf blower to blow air into the tank thru the fuel filler as suggested by another viewer. Took me about 2 hours to remove the charcoal and clear the vent.
Brother this is the only video I could find like this. I really needed this info. You have no idea how much this simple information helped. Can't thank you enough
Glad to hear it! Welcome!
Same! Thanks so much!
I have a 2007 JKU. I spend 20+ .minutes filling my tank. I have taken it in multiple times and not ONE mechanic EVER told me about this damn canister. I have rebuilt motors and transmissions, I've never before had issues putting fuel in my vehicles. Thank you soo much for this video.
Dude, that video is exactly what I've been needing! Thank you so much. I haven't been able to find an in-depth video on this issue breaking down the entire system like you did.
Glad to hear it!
I ran into this video, AFTER, I did this task. Took me about 6 hours because some of the hoses have their special way of disconnecting.
Dude, you are a LIFE SAVER!!!! 🤩😍🤩 I had never dropped a gas tank before, but thanks to your videos I was able to drop it and clear all of the evap lines and put it back together, and now I can pump gas into my 2005 Suburban Z71 5.3 Flex 😁 I am so frickin happy 😅
Thank you so much!!!!
Best video I have seen showing every part in the system. Now i understand how each part works and know what to look for when the CEL pops up.
This is the only video and source of info I have found on a PO449 problem.Thanks dude you saved me half a headache.
Had the same problem where I couldn't fuel my Yukon. Started by disconnected the EVAP canister and all the little carbon pellets fell out. So, I dropped the tank, cleared all the lines w compressed air and replaced the canister and canister vent solenoid. With all that done I can now fill up the Yukon perfectly. No more shut off issues.
Seriously been looking for a video like this for over a year thank you sir!
Wow brother thank you so much for this video. I bypassed the canister and vent valve, by disconnecting the lines and went to the gas station and still had the same issue. Your video just confirmed my suspicion about those little bits I saw when I disconnected the big line Thank you for this. I feel 100% more confident in what I’m doing and what I have to do next. 👍🏽
So glad it helped!
There were some problems with the wind and the sound, but I like the way you laid everything out so we could see the whole system. I'm facing the same problem and am about to get started on the tear down. Thanks again for the video.
Ya, the wind is always a challenge! Good luck with your tear down.
Good luck finding a better video than this one! This is really good, great job!
If you live on dirt roads or very dusty environment go with the vent solenoid relocation option. Otherwise you’ll just keep replacing it. Other option is to wrap in with extra filter material and zip tie it around it. Then just replace that filter every so often.
This was awesome in delivery and informative and very thorough and exact. Kudos to you!!!
Did the holy trinity!! And it finally worked! Check engine light reset and the gas fills... lol mostly.... occasionally clicks off but I read unless you change all hoses it probably always will! Good video my guy!!
Holy trinity! Hahaaaa. Welcome sir!
Damn dude you’re awesome! You’re the only guy that has videos like this!
What a gift! thank you for the thorough explanation. I feel equipped to address my problem thanks to you.
Fantastic! The best explanation I've seen of this super annoying problem on my 05 Yukon (an otherwise great vehicle) Thanks and have an upvote from a new subscriber!
Thanks for the video, although the orientation is different on the trucks compared to the SUV's, this still gave me an idea on how it all worked and did help me fix and diagnose my truck.
I have this exact problem with a 2007 Chevy Tahoe 5.3L . I don't get why some gas station pumps it will pump fine every time I gas up and there's some stations pumps where it does it every time. I would think that it would do it at every gas station.
Awesome video...very detailed and informative!!!
That is a very well-thought-of and detailed process you just showed us
Good! Glad to hear that!
i replaced all 3 and still got the code, now i've dropped the tank and going to replace all the vent lines, 2006 suburban 4x4 z71. i'll let you know if it fixes it. great video by the way. was getting sick of seeing all the other trouble shooting done with a $3000 scan tool
And?????😂😂
OMG Make a video like this for ever system on ever vehicle... mechanics will be out of a job!!! YOUR AMAZING!!!
Haha! Maybe one day! Thanks Blake.
Well done video and series. Extremely informative and precise.
Glad it was helpful!
I just subscribed ….your channel is a no brainer ….best mechanic video I have ever seen
This is one of the best damn How To/DIY videos!!!! Got right to it!!!
This is a great breakdown of the system. Thank you!!
I don't know everything! BUT the anti-siphon valve where the filler neck meets the tank is spring loaded and was preventing me from filling up my tank at full force. When I dropped the tank to replace the fuel pump at 160,000 miles I tapped the anti-siphon spring and plastic holder into the tank and retrieved it from the fuel pump hole. I was SO happy when I returned to the filling station and could then fill my tank with the nozzle at full blast. Before this I had to hold the damn nozzle barely open to prevent it from shutting off automatically as the filler neck backed up with fuel. I hope this helps someone. Send me a digital thank you if it does, it would make my day.
This may be my problem. I've replaced everything but the gas tank???
I was contemplating the same thing, that there was a similar device in the filler neck area that could be causing this issue. Maybe They (GM) designed that spring a little too strong. I have a 2011 Cadillac Escalade with the same problem. That makes more sense, but I won’t rule out replacing the evap system components as well. Great insight all around.
@@MW-sl9lv I think the spring is probably ok - my observation is the plastic part the spring pushed on didn't always slide smoothly, and appeared to tilt and bind instead. If it binds when fuel hits it from the top instead of compressing the spring and flowing into the tank, that would surely slow down the flow of fuel.
@@brandonhines1613 Just knock out that anti-siphon valve after dropping the tank (when empty of fuel). Then retrieve the part and spring from the fuel pump hole. I suppose a person could leave them in there as they are way too large for the fuel pump to attempt to pick up. They'd just be permanent residents of the tank lol.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! For breaking down each line
best video i've seen on this, thanks so much.
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
Helped out a lot, thank you!
Thank you very much for being so informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Yo thank you SO much for this video! 🙏🏽
I have the same problem and I just changed the solenoid system. The gas pump clicks off so I use a home made aperatus. That's how it is when buying a used car.
I will save your video for reference.
While I don't doubt this might work for me. Turning the gas pump handle upside down as I'm filling up works to and is easier so i'll probably do that.
It's worth a shot if anyone out there is still having this problem.
If you've had carbon into the evap lines...you have to completely blow all lines out before replacing the components. Carbon bits get stuck in the lines particularly above the tank. Works best if dropping tank , remove lines and tap while blowing both directions
Thanks for the vid! Question, I've seen other videos where compressed air is just blown in the purge valve while the gas cap is off...is that sufficient?..or wreckless?..would it harm any other components, or lines?
I unhooked the lines and stuck a leaf blower in my gas inlet and blew all the bits out. Saved me from dropping fuel tank.
@@dh6984 no, I didnt let the fuel out. The vent line is at the top. You will just be pushing air through it out to the lines you disconnected
@@dh6984 yes, where you put the gas in.
Wait, so let me get this straight. You disconnected the lines to the vapor canister, then opened up the gas cap and blew air from a leaf blower into the gas filler neck?
Where did you unhook the lines? At the canister filter?
I’m pretty sure this is pure genius.
Perfect video 😊 Thank You 👍
What other symptoms would this issue cause? Any driving issues like a loss of power?
I've got a 2005 Chevy Avalanche with the fueling issue. I crawled under to pull the canister and check for carbon pellets and I noticed that the smaller vent line that goes up by the gas cap area, where it comes down to the tank and makes that 90 degree curve, the line looks kinked there. I tried straightening it out, but its a no go. Is that line under any kind of pressure? could I possibly cut the kink out and splice in some fuel line hose to avoid buying that whole vent hose set up that runs across the top of the tank? Do you have any idea of what the whole vent line set up that runs across the gas tank is called properly in case I need to order it? Thanks for a great video! Subbed!
Awesome, so well done! Thank you! Question: Is there a sequence where I could disconnect a line from one of the components, turn the engine on, and effectively clear the line of carbon so that I don't have to drop the tank? Once the lines are cleared I would then replace the component in the engine compartment and the vapor canister, and finally the evap vent solenoid valve back by the tank. Your comments appreciated! Again, thank you!
This is the video to watch if your having fill up problems. 😊
@A Nonymuss u r a fuelish commenter.
This happened to me, so... I did all the things you said, it's a lot of work, but it does fill up normally now. Literally pellets everywhere.
Great video very informative! Do you know what the part number or name of the hose that’s attached to the tank that attaches to that white nipple and wraps around the tank?
I have a 2005 Yukon XL Denali with this problem. It is not a “flex fuel” model. Are the parts all the same for regular gas systems?
Awesome video.......thank you so much
I just fixe this on my daughter's corolla. It was a spider's nest in the vent output hose from the canister. It's open to atmosphere and just hangs below the canister. I dug the nest out and now it fills with no problems. Check this hose first before ripping into your system. This is a common cause.
Fantastic video, thank you.
Love this thank you. Where are you at these days?
Great video, thanks!
Well they sure did make a fuel tank into a monstrosity all because of fumes and the damned ozone.
I changed all 3 of those components and I didn't see any carbon bits coming out of any of the lines or components and I'm still having the same issues (evap code and issues putting gas in my 09 Avalanche) any other suggestions?
What the line that goes up with the fuel filler neck? Thats a vent too right but why they need that one ? For venting fueling up i assume but does that one vent to atmosphere ?
Hi we have enjoyed your video very much here is our problem.... We have a 2005 suburban Z71 1500, our problem is the gas shuts off after s couple of seconds watching your video we had the vapor canister replaced along with the purge valve also the canister vent solenoid we also had all lines blown out..we still have the problem but not as severe what do you suggest at this point? What more can we do to remedy this problem your advice is much appreciated Thank you so much
Wow great explanation 👍
I have a 2011 Suburban. You can hear the air coming up the filler neck and turning off the fuel nozzle. I can get around a gallon if each click of the nozzle. Where do you think my problem is? Valve at the engine? Or the EVAP at the fuel tank?
Thank you so much freaking awesome very informative bless day keep up the great videos
You are so welcome!
Good information.
Hey, I have a 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan rt, and it has a fueling problem, every time I go to the gas station and start fueling, it stop at $10 and then stops every $0.10 to $0.50 cents. I think it has something to do with the charcoal canister. But no one was able to understand. I’m in Springfield IL. Where can I go to fix this and what is the problem. Also do you have any suggestions on what to purchase for a fuel efficient car, and under 110k miles and under $14k.
also what is that tan colored valve that one of the line hook to ? can that cause it? rollover valve?
Ok now I understand what I'm doing and how it works, thanks.
I have the same issue, Is this set up the same a 03 Chevy trailblazer LT 4.2L ?
What are the two lines that go up under the filler neck into a small square box
I had the same problem with my truck kicking off the fill nozzle every time I try to fill the tank but found my canister was not plugged. The little carbon BBs inside the canister had gone down the tank vent tube and plugged it up at the point where it attaches to the tank. I had to vacuum the BBs out of the tube and the problem is now solved.
One of the frustrating things that professionals have to deal with is cars that have already had multiple components replaced, yet the issue persists. Aftermarket components are usually inferior and sometimes bad, right out of the box! So a professional workflow takes a little bit more effort to verify which part is bad. If you choose to spend money up front and shoot the parts cannon, remember to hang on to and label your old parts so a pro can retrace the steps.
Good advice! Everyone take note. Also, I agree on the cheap parts. Having tried the cheap parts over the years, I no longer fool with them. I try to buy the best OEM parts I can, in this case AC Delco.
Bro this is an amazing video 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯 finally just dropped my tank I'm unplugging all this shit I'll rip it all out and I'm not putting that carbon canister back in it has to be something else to replace that
I've been driving mine for three years with the engine light on and the p0449 code. It hesitates a little bit of takeoffs other than that I don't see what the big deal is. I was told to check my gas cap it seems to be okay.
Also I didn't see if you said anything about the top of the engine EVAP like I have seen on other UA-cams.
fuel pressure sensor is important also. can throw code po446.
Best example ever
Bro i have question i just bought a brand new car like 4 months ago.,, everytime i gas up usually overfill my gas tank, like 5 times already did. Im worried that my evap or canister is affected..are my evap system still safe? Swear il never overfill it again. Im just worried.
When you’re talking the “tubes” that connect the different parts…can I clean these or do I need to replace them as well?
Cleaning the lines/tubes should be sufficient. But, definitely check for any cracks or holes in the lines while cleaning. I didn't replace any of mine.
Best video for this! Best information!
The small evap line, next to where you fill up gas, should that line have gas in it? Disconnected that line and some gas came out of it. I have an issue with some gas spilling when refueling.
Have exact vehicle with 286,000 on the clock. Having same problems, and have all three parts already.
What's the best way you found to removed the clipped hoses?
Great video. I can only put in like $8 before gas spills out. The gas station pump nozzle not clicking. But I don't know why my gas tank is refusing to accept more fuel? I've checked all hoses and charcoal canister. Everything is intact. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Need advice on p0448
The hose to the white plug is fuel return from engine.
Awesome. Thank you
Hey I replace all those parts and clean all the hoses and still have problem I don’t know what to do next
My 07 tahoe is having the same problems. I have already replaced all 3 parts and I'm still having the same problems. Honestly it's gotten worse
Same here. I've replaced everything but the gas tank.
Does this work on any make and model?
crazy idea, but could you cut the big line near the tank, tee in with a vent hose, run the vent hose up to the filler neck, and tee into your vent hose there? of course that would be bypassing the evap system completely and would not be 100% legal, but theoretically would it work? also, you could tap a new fitting into the top of the tank and tee it into the vent line near the filler neck, right?
Nope, you will get an EVAP GROSS LEAK code. It performs an EVAP test once in a while, but closing the VENT valve, opening the PURGE valve (vacuum), then closing the PRUGE valve and measuring the pressure over time. With a new vent, it will fail the test. P0455 CODE or similar.
Does evap cause terrible gas mileage?
Having replaced my 2003 yukons fuel pump twice, I cut a hole in my floor below my rear seat. (cut 3 sides of a rectangle and bent it back) I did that to replace my tank pressure sensor. I've already replaced that charcoal canister and everything else and I'm still getting the evap performance code. I thinl this might be the issue. Pretty sure I can blow everything out without dropping the tank. Thanks for the video
Were you able to blow out the lines without dropping the tank? I just finished after dropping the gas tank and I had to really shake out the lines by hand to get all of the pellets out. It did work though.
@@jedarramorriss7064 I haven’t done it yet but I did check my old canister and nothing came out
You think this would cause a misfire?
There is a God. Thanx
Codes coming up? If you suddenly have codes popping up, ask yourself this. "Has my battery gone completely dead recently or did I change the battery myself" If yes, drive your car through the manufacturer specific, driving recycling procedure to re-boot your computer. A lot of things can be fixed by just idling from a cold start for a few minutes while turning on every electricity item in the car. AC, rear defroster, radio, lights, etc.
I have p0443. Should I just replaced the three components? I just did the purge valve and the code just came back on.
I suggest replacing all the components. The two components near the gas tank will definitely fail at some point.
Awesome
we did all this and when blowed lines nothing came out but still problems filling, i suspect that big line has a problem where the small lines merge, a friend said he had to change that big line where they merge and fixed it , anybody else had to go that far?
If your going to go through the effort of lowering the fuel tank to remove the line assembly off the top you might as well use hot soapy water to fill the lines let them soak and then blow it out with an air compressor. I've used simple Green and hot water in a trash can overnight. And had great results. My other suggestion would be stopped buying all these replacement parts and just replace the internal filters. The solenoid valve has a pop top. Replacement filter source any high-density foam cut to fit. The charcoal canister has a pop top. Dispose of the fuel soaked charcoal. Go to the pet store and buy the pre-bagged charcoal filters. Fill the canister with the charcoal. Use a little RTV sealant to ensure that you don't have an air leak when you place the lid back on top. Do you not top off your tank ever again. Problem solved.
I had a guy to change all the parts to the fuel system, but he didn't blow out the vent lines.
What if I did all the steps from blowing out the lines and replacing all three parts and it still clicks when I try to fuel up. Do you know what else it can be?
Fuel tank
I have a 2005 Yukon XL that is doing this.
You can use a vacuum to suck out the lines
I have had this problem for months. I replaced the carbon canister first; didn’t fix the problem. Replaced the fuel tank pressure sensor mounted into the top of the gas tank, but that didn’t fix the problem.
Then I replaced the solenoid with the 2 hoses (1 going to charcoal canister and the other hose which is secured to the fill tube by zip ties). Still didn’t fix the problem. Please advise on any suggestions.
You'll need to drop the gas tank to remove the evap lines from the top of the tank and shake out all of the little charcoal pellets. I just finished the job and it worked immediately.
Im having issues as well while fueling but mine is spilling out the vent solenoid and it recently started to over flow out the filler tube. I replaced the vent solenoid, charcoal canister, blew out the lines but I'm still having fueling issues. When I replaced the canister it fueled normal for about three fill ups and then started having issues again. I noticed fuel was going into the charcoal canister and also sending it to the purge valve which I also replaced on the engine side which was causing it to run rough and throw a P0300 code. I cleaned out the canister removed al the fuel inside and blew out the lines andit did help it for about a day with the running rough issue but it seems like it starting to push fuel again to the purge valve and causing it to run rough again. This is on a 2007 Silverado 1500 classic. Any suggestion on what I should do next or what it could be?
Did you fix it?
@@drewbriggs6339 naw man i havent. I just fill up slow and for the running rough issue all i did was disconnect the valve so it stays stuck closed. Plus i dont drive it a lot so i havent put too much time into it. It just seems the tank is holding pressure and it pushes the fuel out
@@crisgarcia6564 ended up drilling a hole in the top of the tank and tapping it with a hose and it works fine now
@@drewbriggs6339 you had the same issue? And yeah i thought about that too. Making a breather on top right? So it stops holding pressure in the tank
Got 2007 tahoe just had shop replace fuel pump now i cant fill gas and befor i could. Any chance when they put tank back up they pinch vent hose? Wat should i try to fix? tried to blow out hoses and no charcoal bbs came out.
Also I told the shop and I had warranty on parts and labor and they won't look at it again unless I pay for another diagnostic and I don't wanna give that place another dollar
Nice! ❤