Why? DPF Forced Regeneration Failed 3 Times? Do I Need New Particulate Filter? P2463:00-AF
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2022
- explanation of why I see so many failed forced regen attempts.
General rule is all engine related faults must be fixed and clear before dpf will regenerate.
faults here were...
P2463 Particle filter soot accumulation
P253F:68-AF Engine oil deteriorated
P0671:00-2F Glow Plug Cylinder 1
open circuit
P0672:00-2F Gow plug cylinder 2 circuit
P0673:00-2F Glow Plug Cylinder 3
P0674:00-2F Glow Plug Cylinder 4 - Авто та транспорт
Thanks for the information nice to see a real mechanic and not a part changer
Thank you 😊
@@ORileysAutos. Could you leave it over night for a good soak mate
Nice to see somebody who knows their stuff sharing it on you tube.
Yes he's informative and very interesting, good stuff. 😁
Modern diesels last 7/8years use glow plugs not in the same way as before , they are used in the diesel injection cycle during normal driving as injector control has evolved , any deteriation of injectors or cylinder sealing will have a huge effect on particulates , an aging DPF will suffer greatly as efficiency drops . yes you are very much correct with this video,
every day watching O'Rileys content is a learning day, (fresh out ov college lvl 3 me lad) O'Riley is showing us all the way🚗🚗🚗🚗
Another great job Jimmy.
Hi Jimmy you nail it glow plugs do help with combustion even after start up and i had many that dont regen with even 2 glow plugs faulty, you provide a fantastic service.
Thank you 😊
I worked in an MOT station for around 15 years and to be perfectly honest they used to take dpf problems on which i didn't agree with because it was a forced regeneration and 50% of the vehicles used to come back, i said one day why not send the customer to someone who will clean the dpf properly and he looked at me like im a di**head because it clearly about money, i think it's much better to send it to someone who knows what they doing and they have good knowledge. personally i'd say someone like you would do a much much better job, i'll admit you've educated me
Thanks
Finally a good vid/mechanic!
Hats off!
Greg
Thank you
Excellent channel.
I have learned so much from you, thanks teach!
Thank you 😊
Amazing , ,very professional work done,great mechanic he knows the business 😂
I wish he can do my car😂,cheers matt
Great video thank you for explaining the process .
Glad it helped
You are soo lucky that you can do this anywhere. Here, in Germany, in the first 15 minutes, the police will come and you'll get a veerrryyy fat fine to pay. But, oversall, very good job. I've started to use also this method to clean dpf after I've seen your videos. Untill that moment, I was very scheptic regarding this method, but now it works.
As always another excellent video, thank you so much for all the content you put out.🙂
My pleasure!
@@ORileysAutos 🙂😇
Cheers Jimmy,for sharing the knowledge👍
No problem 👍
Thank you for teaching some like who cares about doing the job right and helps build my confidence and knowledge god bless
You are very welcome
Interesting how all that works 👍
Fantastic, love a proper mechanical engineer 🎉🎉🎉 that's why I've gone back to fixing cars. Because of dodgy so called mechanics that just rip people off. I was fed up of getting ripped of myself , laughable. Keep up on the excellent knowledgeable videos 🎉🎉🎉
Great vid 👍 same there some out there that call them selfs mechanics , should not be let lose on cars and yes defo for the glow plugs 👍
Thanks for giving me a valid reason to get the Milwaukee compressor 🤤
Top man sharing your knowledge keep those videos coming
Thanks, will do!
Great video, expert knowledge. Good luck if you have to do the Glow plugs, snapping them is so easily done.😕
He cancelled the glow plugs next day
@@ORileysAutos It's the old saying. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink! I find a lot of customers just want warning/service lights off & aren't interested in getting to the bottom of problems.
Probably skint or sold it straight after you put it right, great Chanel you boys know your stuff.
A problem i had with my mk7 transit is the vapourizer fuse popped.
Glow plug 4 had stopped working, so wasnt regenerating properly, we think the vapourizer filled with soot and overheated popping the fuse at some point.
Expensive stuff when it goes wrong.
Could you please do a video explaining the inferred closed loop and open loop?
100/100, Totaly agree, Thanks For your Hard Work,
Much appreciated!
Jimmy thankyou for the great videos in 2022...Did you clean the atomiser with the liquid or just the air pressure.
Blow torch until red and airline
Hi jimmy can you do a video on your portable compressor? Pros and cons and why you chose that one thanks .
asalamaleikum brother thanks a lot - you have saved my car from scrap. Inshallah
Glad I could help
@@ORileysAutos thanks a lot. I learned how dpf works by watching your advices and were really helpful
Dpf is pain, mine just came on now checked in was fine on idle just 8hpa at 3000 though its upto 180-200 says 5g of soot but dont know if thats good or bad. Luckily mines the psa 1.6hdi euro 5 so its fairly easy to take the dpf of because its spilts and only requires 2 clamps and the difference low pressure hose being removed.
Your DA man in DA hood Jimmy Bro.
To clean a DPF without the car / van having any fault codes would I be able to clean it with the launch cleaning kit without using a diagnostic device ?
Great video. Only UA-cam mechanic I come to now
Thanks for watching!
No, no, thank you for taking the time to film, edit and produce these videos
I have same problem on tourneo custom and lots smoke coming out Taken into ford second time said they repaired it and yet it doing same van under warranty had to wait on part from Germany and had van back 2 weeks and problem persists the smoke coming out is alarming. Could you tell me where the smoke is coming from. You had revved van andsmoke came out over the top of enginelike mine. This is ford main dealer and van has to go into repair third time. What causes it to clog upall the time and how is the smoke escaping over engine.
The figures you gave of:
Under 10 at idle
Under 80 at acceleration
Are these specific to transits or is it a good general rule of thumb for any vehicle?
Cheers!
Thanks Jimmy. I had thought that these inject diesel into the DPF via the exhaust side of the combustion cycle, the vaporiser was news to me.
I must say, the vaporiser reminds me strongly of the innards of a diesel heater.
Very informative, thanks.
Glad to help
Does active regeneration also require an oil change? Also why would you need an oil change after a forced regen?
Thank you for your videos
Because your dpf filter is now clear so why would you not put clean diesel through the now clear filter and.
Hi … I tried 1 force Re-gen … it’s now at Ford’s for a new DpF & vaporiser
When I get it back should I change the oil? TIA
I have a ford mondeo, the vaporiser (5th injector) is under the car near the dpf.. if its squirting the fuel down there. Do I still have to change my oil?.
Just had this problem on my Mrs 2005 Merc c220
Could you tell me if the vaporizer needs priming manualy with a computer as I had same issue with my dpf, my vaporizer was blocked and seized I fitted a new one but now it won't do a forced regen, is this because the vaporizer needs priming? My car is a mk3 for focus 2.0 tdci
Very good
Thanks
4 months ago, i did forced regen on my ecodiesel ram 2017 using scanner. Then 3 weeks ago, engine light popped again and i went to do the forced regen, but then it didn't allow. it said i have to fix the code -P0545-00. I didnt work on it right away. so yesterday, while returning home from work, my engine made a tac tac sound and shut off completely. do u think my engine is blown off?
Jimmy if you would be so kind to answer this please 🙏
I’ve done the double flush & lowered the Differential Pressure from 4.5kPa down to 2.3kPa at idle, & at 3,000 Rev’s it went down to 12.0kPa at idle, so still high but I’m unable to give it a final good run as I’ve no MOT on it.
So what’s the best way forward now? I’m guessing just reset the soot percentage & tell it it’s got a new DPF Then do a static Regen? it’s still also in limp mode.
Book an MOT that's a drive away and take it there. No law says how far you can travel to a MOT centre.
I had a force regen on my cat thought it was a turbo runaway at first .is that possible it was the gen loads of smoke came out the back revs was full then it died down seems fine now but not sure
Hi!
My ford ecosport 2021 diesel static regeneration failed at 85-90% most of the time. I have heard from someone that to make the regeneration successful, the soot % should be at 20%. My car soot % is at 59%.
What should I do? There is no fault code on DTC except DPF soot accumulation which I cleared earlier and then start regeneration.
Any advice or suggestions ?
What would it take to get you to come to Poland to fix my Dodge journey 2.0 diesel engine. Have you ever been to Krakow?
Jimmy when you where using wynns dpf cleaner did u add half water or was it just neat?
Launch fluid is concentrated so 1L can be mixed.
Wynns is already watered down witch is why you get a larger volume
@@ORileysAutos Jimmy Range Rover sport 2013 restricted performance throttle body valve stuck also found a egr actuator sticking would it be ok to use wynns dpf cleaner instead of revive?
Hi do you come to Scotland I have been watching your videos and you definitely know what you are doing I need your help with my 2015 Ford transit custom 270 , if you don’t can you put me in touch with somebody else who can that you could recommend, please,
great knowledge that man has how can I get in touch with you have a problem with transit 2.2 mk8
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Hello.
You are saying that after DPF forced regeneration, oil change must be performed.
Why so?
What is the difference between normal DPF regeneration and forced regeneration (for oil quality)?
Forced regenerations add extra fuel that gets pass they piston and contaminates the oil
@@ORileysAutos even after you do a forced regen after cleaning dpf you still get fuel in the oil or should i just not do a forced regen after clean
@Devine . 34 years ago Updated avoid forced regenerations where possible
I also have a problem with the dpf filter in the sense that due to the low temperature outside the filter it does not reach a temperature higher than 250 degrees and regeneration cannot be done, I did forced regeneration while driving with the carista and in vain that the ash still does not fall from the deposited filter at this moment I have 27 grams of deposited ash, what can I do in this case?I want to mention that no car error code appears on the tester
Depends on what vehicle or engine you're talking about. There are different ways to heat up the filter, and also many other dependencies. Guess this is a Ford with the low pressure aditive injector/vapo?
Its a monent when the vehicle can stop driving if glow plugs not changed. People ignore the knackered glow plugs and then the engine is both harder to start but also puts out more pollution because its not as effective at using the diesel to make a bang. So scan tool wont let the regen happen until they fixed. Then after so long as a bucket load of other readings are right too, then the regen should happen.
I have a car with DPF and do mainly town driving - what do I need to do to keep the DPF happy? go for a cruise at 50 for a while every couple of weeks?
I'm not an expert but those who claim to be say it's about ten to twenty minutes (some say longer, 40 minutes) at 2000 rpm on the revs fairly regularly but it's not clear how often but I think your idea sounds probably a fair guesstimate.. Some say you don't need to actually move the car it's just the revs that count.. But others say it's safer to actually drive the car to avoid overheating of components
@@CastleHassall I was told to keep my fuel level above the half mark as much as possible. The regen won't operate if fuel level is low
6:52 - 31 bottles there, in case you wondered!
I've had keyboard warriors tell me it's impossible to be a Euro 6 vehicle without having adblue, God Bless Em 🤣
I know Honda doesn't use ad blue foe a start on diesel's
My toyota Verso 1.6 diesel doesn't use ad blue
These days still easy to get rid of the AdBlue. Ask your local Indy to remove it. But in fact - here we are solving the DPF issues. Different thing. Learn, read, think. Peace.❤
My 2017 67 Captur 1.5 doesn’t use adblue!
No theses probably don’t have add blue just diesel exhaust fluid instead. Changed at about 100k or so. Diesel exhaust fluid and add blue are two different systems. One doses into fuel tank automatically and the other directly into the exhaust system. If the car is 2017 onwards it will have one of these in the uk that is.
I'm looking for a scan tool for use on multiple different vehicles for occasional use and not too expensive would you have a recommendation for that.
Launchtech.co.uk CRP 129 EVO?
@@ORileysAutos thanks for the reply I'll have a look at it.
I tried to do a forced regeneration on my 2011 Renault Kangoo today. It failed and I got the message "Regeneration failure: The relative pressure inside the PDF is too low" But I also saw a code DF997 " Control unit heating element connections, signal incoherence."
I need to find someone in the states who offers dpf cleaning like that.. alot of these mechanics here want to yank them or replace them.. no one seems to look into repair or clean
Is this for 2.0 Custom?
Ive got a Renault Captur 1.5 DCI that I’m trying to sort out 2018 done 24000 miles only fault is df1020 engine oil dilution no other codes car is healthy DPF differential is between 3 mb on idle to 28 mb under load all pipes sensors checked but still fails regen ?
The only other thing I have noticed is the coolant and oil temp never goes over 78c under load could it be a thermostat issue not allowing the engine to get up to correct operating temperature
This first happened during the recent -5c weather any thoughts appreciated 👍🏻
Just change the oil and reset oil dilution calculation. If temperature doesn't reach 90 it may need new thermostat
@@ORileysAutos thanks for the reply, could the oil dilution calculation be called something different on a Renault I don’t seem to be able find this perimeter just the oil service reset
Appreciate your support
@@NJW1967 oil service reset should do it. Why try to regen if the dpf isn't blocked?
@@ORileysAutos I wasn’t it just keep coming on for no reason, my only explanation for the oil dilution warning keep re appearing is because it’s trying to regen while driving but failing the only thing I can think is its not getting warm enough, car is a proper one owner full history motor its driving me bonkers 😜
Inside pressure diff sensor it was like brand new pipes mint think I’m going to try a new thermostat when GSF opens again 🤞🏻
Just remove and tune. Problem fixed forever. Its the first thing we do here when we drive a new diesel off the dealer lot.
insufficient MAIN BEARING SIZE, BIG END SIZE, CAM LOBE WIDTH and SINGLE ROW TIMING CHAIN will all WEAR in an engine where EXHAUST IS RESTRICTED and soot contaminates oil = DESIGNED TO FAIL.
do you have mobile units around London?
Only Bedfordshire
Honestly, that gets on my nerves that when people offer a regen and not even clean it, then the customer then has to find someone to do it properly and the amount of damaged dpf's I've seen I just stop going if they've said they've had a forced regen done there's loads of people on fb market place with cheap tools offering silly services I just want to message them all haha
Glow plugs are used lot more than people think under load up hill glow plug comes on
Does the dpf cause low torque on first gear? Feels like there is a blockage somewhere
Cheapest option to try would be change the air filter and see if fresh air helps. The older the air filter the more clogged it is reducing air intake and overall power.
Will you resale the fluids and injection bottle and ship to US buyer?? Mark up for your time and expenses.. Launch does not offer shipping to US. .UK and Europe is all that is available.. Its that guy from Alaska again.. Bugging you.. You've been. a huge help with the information you share here.. I appreciate it a ton.. If you will ship.. Just tell me to call you.. I have your business number here. Thanks
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I spoke with them and they can ship overseas but have to call or email. Can't do it on the website
@@ORileysAutos Thank you Brother.. I emailed twice without response.. I will give a call.. Best to you.. Happy New Years! Cheers mate
@DR Ostly I suppose if you want a single bottle shipped to USA for instance they may not want to do it
@@drostly3220 Charlie Ford will ship to USA
+447767896339
He has WhatsApp
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Glad you enjoyed it
Take it off n clean it yourself easier and cheaper. And it works
Yes. And that is a nice $6000 repair.
It wasn't even 600
If it has glow pugs they should work. Manufacturers dont fit them for fun they are part of the combustion and should work.
Hey Jimmy tell them what a new DPF costs that will stop them doing forced regents ,what how much bloody hell,I know you are trying to be diplomatic ,but some times you have to be more direct ,just some people are just not getting the message jimmy
Remove DPF injector and clean with warm water.
That won't work
I bloody hate dpfs nothing but issues with every car I buy with this stupid part 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I thought the injector in exhaust was to stop oil contamination
Tell the driver to stop taking short trips
If his lifestyle & needs are short trips he is gonna take short trips. Would you drive to Asda in the next town when you have one 5 mile away.
@@ENGLISHISBEST
If you are going to drive a diesel engine with a dpf in it, you need to take it a run above 40mph for 15mins once a week to clean it out. So if you take short trips all the time its going to be expensive getting the dpf fixed, its part of owning the vehicle.
If the soot content is high and all the codes are fixed will the van eventually clean its self ?
Once it goes over 150% it won't regen
@@ORileysAutos we had the dpf cleaned, car still in limp mode, will not regen. MB wants $800 just to take it out of limp mode. Any suggestions? Recall warranty should cover all of this but they refuse to acknowledge it. Just frustrated!
u saying u charge more than 100 gbp for this? That is too much
The diag machine is £5K plus his knowledge plus his time …. How is £100 too much ???