Just a pointer to avoid extra lint to clean. Instead of using a paper towel, you cn use coffee filters as those are lint free and also fairly cheap and readily available in most peoples homes
Great tutorial, thank you Phawx. Considering the current paste is pretty recent and seems to be well applied I'm not going to change yet to PTM7950 to cool a few degrees (i'm not even pushing the mini hard for now). But couple of months down the track or next year when the existing paste will probably be dry I'll definitely come back to this video and apply PTM7950.
Super excited for this device to be delivered. I'm going to do some thermal testing to see where my unit is with the stock thermal paste but will definately look at this for an option.
@@riazhussain2333 are you using motion assist? You can adjust fans there.also just disable cpu boost. I've changed my ssd to a 2280 one as the 2230 was getting too hot to touch lol.all good now
Great job! Now I wonder which ptm 7950 pad size to get? Or maybe PTM7958 paste? Wonder if we could thermal re-pad/repaste the G1? Maybe the next tutorial ?
I’m sure you watched the video of that Chinese guy that modded the whole backplate and fan/heatsink, are you considering trying to make a video on how to do that for us outside of china? It would be incredible paired with this mod
While a ~3 degree delta doesn't look like much, it's a pretty massive gap when it comes to TIM. Most traditional TIMs will be within a few degrees of each other, from best to worst, so PTM is clearly doing a great job here!
Obviously different but thermal pads compared to paste, I did this on a liquid cooled 6900xt and the pad was a super high quality pad but it would still exceed heat limits and shut down. With paste it runs at ambient. Makes me feel like paste has to better in this situation too?
What are the surface temperatures like after changing thermal compounds? I've heard that the win mini gets uncomfortably hot around the face buttons if you run it above about 15W, and I was wondering if improving conductivity to the fan (and reducing backsplash in the airflow) would help with that...
Great video! I learn a lot about Isopropyl alcohol. If you could do one for the win 4 would be great. Oh if you'd do a hall sensor stick replacement video would rock. Isopropyl alcohol!
I am so excited to receive mine. Should this be done before turning on the device for the first time? Would that make the most sense or does it matter?
Do not over-torque the screws on the cooling solution. You will strip them. If you plan on re-torqueing the screws, use a torque wrench set to a very low value. Around 0.5NM, or 4.5 inch-lbs.
GPD engineers couldn't solve the device's heating problem, so they cut Tdp by 20 units, essentially throttling the processor's performance, what do you say to that?
Not being mean Phawx but try not to say "the device itself" or "the *blank* itself" it's something said way too often by amateurs, and you're beyond that.
![GPD Win Max 2 - Honeywell ptm7950 - Tutorial: Application & Testing [35 watt - silent mode]](/img/n.gif)
Dang the Win Mini looks incredibly well-designed on the inside. It's beautiful.
Just a pointer to avoid extra lint to clean. Instead of using a paper towel, you cn use coffee filters as those are lint free and also fairly cheap and readily available in most peoples homes
Dry baby wipes work even better.
Essentially a viscose napkin.
Do we not use microfiber cloths anymore?
i was just coming to say this! aeropress filters work the best imo because of their small size and firm weave.
Great tutorial, thank you Phawx. Considering the current paste is pretty recent and seems to be well applied I'm not going to change yet to PTM7950 to cool a few degrees (i'm not even pushing the mini hard for now). But couple of months down the track or next year when the existing paste will probably be dry I'll definitely come back to this video and apply PTM7950.
Can you do an updated review of the win mini, if it’s worth purchasing now etc?
Thank you for the temps, Phawx. Much appreciated
This is the Number 1 Reason why I lover your Channel, The Teardowns.
Super excited for this device to be delivered. I'm going to do some thermal testing to see where my unit is with the stock thermal paste but will definately look at this for an option.
Great video as always phawx. Gonna mod my 64gb/2tb 👌
I've got the same one but mine gets quite hot and the fans get rather loud, is yours the same?
@@riazhussain2333 are you using motion assist? You can adjust fans there.also just disable cpu boost. I've changed my ssd to a 2280 one as the 2230 was getting too hot to touch lol.all good now
@@liviup6660 Ah brilliant I'll give that a go thanks! Also would that affect the performance when playing AAA games?
@@riazhussain2333 no. That how you control and manage its power settings
@@liviup6660 Thanks for the advice!
Great job! Now I wonder which ptm 7950 pad size to get? Or maybe PTM7958 paste? Wonder if we could thermal re-pad/repaste the G1? Maybe the next tutorial ?
Now trying out Gelid heatphase ultra and thermalright heilos............might be the same stuff I think?
You’re a legend, can’t wait to get mine
Excellent video as always.
Thanks for showing this process so that I know never to go for it! Still a good watch though
I’m sure you watched the video of that Chinese guy that modded the whole backplate and fan/heatsink, are you considering trying to make a video on how to do that for us outside of china? It would be incredible paired with this mod
got a link to that video?
still waiting for mine to arrive!
Any chance of getting a video of the 2280 for the win mini mod?
this is so helpful !!
thanks for the vid phawx!! :)
I'm new to all this, so can this be used to replace thermal paste altogether? As well do you suggest I use this on other devices as well?
AFAIK yes. I've used it for GPUs, and CPUs as well. It's not a magic bullet, but it's long lasting and easy to apply.
While a ~3 degree delta doesn't look like much, it's a pretty massive gap when it comes to TIM. Most traditional TIMs will be within a few degrees of each other, from best to worst, so PTM is clearly doing a great job here!
that literally is within a few degrees, so this is nothing new. What is new, is that PTM7950 supposedly never gets worse over time.
Got it on my Max, was a fan little project.
How thick is the PTM7950 that you used, Sir?
Mine is due tmro, will be doing this as soon as it arrives
The inside looks really sexy... way better than my GPD Win 1 :D
Obviously different but thermal pads compared to paste, I did this on a liquid cooled 6900xt and the pad was a super high quality pad but it would still exceed heat limits and shut down. With paste it runs at ambient. Makes me feel like paste has to better in this situation too?
What are the surface temperatures like after changing thermal compounds? I've heard that the win mini gets uncomfortably hot around the face buttons if you run it above about 15W, and I was wondering if improving conductivity to the fan (and reducing backsplash in the airflow) would help with that...
Would you say that the PTM 7950 is better than say, a high quality thermal paste like the Prolima PK-3?
I use it on my WM2 no regrets
Great video! I learn a lot about Isopropyl alcohol. If you could do one for the win 4 would be great. Oh if you'd do a hall sensor stick replacement video would rock. Isopropyl alcohol!
Fans and clocks consistent?
What camera model did you use for this video?
What size PTM pad would you recommend for the MINI?
Get bigger and apply to every laptop you have
Is it better than kpx or kryoknot extreme.
Will it cool my overheated heart?
Have you found any thumbstick caps that fit on the Mini with the sceen closed?
im curious if the temp gap between ptm and not ptm would increase when they unlock the bios and allow u to go up to 25 or 28w
They could have put a better heatsink there to make it usable at full tdp such a shame they didn't
You should know isopropyl alcohol is not conductive to electricity.
So even if it didn't dry it still wouldn't do anything.
I am so excited to receive mine. Should this be done before turning on the device for the first time? Would that make the most sense or does it matter?
Doesn't matter. This just improves thermals. But it's not like you can't use it stock. Phawx's review video was without ptm.
Better to validate that the device is in working order first, so that you know whether any issues are from the factory or possibly self inflicted.
@@xomm makes sense, thank you.
Do you think a 2242 could fit in there? Or Possibly a 2280
I know the 2280 is a Pipedream but the 2242 is promising@@watchmejumpstart69
Wouldn't some pads on the vrms also help?
The pads turn liquid under heat, so probably not.
@@nathanl2966 not ptm pads, the vrms are probably hotter then the cpu causing more of the overall warming of the dpad which is on top of them
You should not use PTM on anything you would not use liquid thermal paste on. It applies as a pad, but becomes liquid.
@@KristopherBlakeley no one said to use ptm pads
i added some to mine
why are your vrm thermal pads missing?
damn, i was hoping for "like a little lego" for that daughter board connector.. not this time
I would lightly torque it down once more for added pressure.
Do not over-torque the screws on the cooling solution. You will strip them. If you plan on re-torqueing the screws, use a torque wrench set to a very low value. Around 0.5NM, or 4.5 inch-lbs.
Note this is post burn in. 🔥 Yeah never over tighten, till snug again is best.
GPD engineers couldn't solve the device's heating problem, so they cut Tdp by 20 units, essentially throttling the processor's performance, what do you say to that?
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Not being mean Phawx but try not to say "the device itself" or "the *blank* itself" it's something said way too often by amateurs, and you're beyond that.