German republic in 1940? it's just like the reich same stuff same focus trees same industry because Zai probably changed the ideologies or installed a mod. So in brief the defeat of the USSR wasn't suprising at all because simply the comintern were fighting the axis which had the powerful troops and allies which had the naval and air supermacy at the same plus the USSR probably still reiciving debuffs from the Great Purge.But surprisingly the USSR held 4 years I think, which is good and also if you look closely the Turkish were giving military acess to the allies which gave them acess to the black sea and started invading Romania and Crimea.
he also should have given the soviets more manpower and factories while lowering the allied manpower because at the end of the second world war the soveits were in (relatively) fantastic shape when it came to their ability to wage war while the allies (with the exeption of the usa and Britain) where exhausted
French soldier: never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a German German soldier: How about side by side with a friend? French soldier: aye, i could do that.
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Very good timelapse, enjoyed it a lot! But it was very realistic to be fair, the Soviets could never match the Allies economically, so therefore always less factories working on producing weapons and the war would just be a long period of fighting with hundreds of millions dead, the winner asking themselves that they won but at what cost? The only difference is the US would probably launch the nukes that were meant for Japan at the USSR. Great video!
The soviet union was sitting on the largest stockpile of tanks by the end of the war that has ever existed, had this happened the red army would've rolled any troops the allies had in continental europe unless America started nuking them, the economic strength of closed economies can't be seen in their GDP, which is why the USSR always looked economically weak. Operation unthinkable was frankly unthinkable
@@Linesweeper I think it would be pretty much WW2 all over again, except that the UK is stranded alone in Europe (let's be honest, the Soviet Navy and Airforce are no match for the RN and RAF) but this time it includes the Soviet Union's territories in the occupied zones. Would you consider though that ,after some time, the USA and the remainder of the Allies could outproduce the USSR in equipment (e.g. produce large amounts of weapons to counter the tanks?). Indeed, the USSR was a large military power, but the American industry would still be larger. Plus, the USSR would have to deal with constant uprisings and resistance in occupied territories, slowing down their process of development, unlike the Allies who would not control a large part of Europe. Also, just one more question, since this is an interesting topic, what would you think Japan would do in this kind of situation? I think of it as three options. Option 1: Japan remains neutral and focuses on rebuilding its military after heavy losses in China, leaving itself in dishonour (since most likely they would negotiate some sort of deal with the Chinese after many bloody years of fighting, probably a truce, if the Chinese accept it), Option 2: Japan sides with the Allied Powers, the Allies could negotiate a deal with the Japanese in exchange for exploitation of colonial resources such as oil and rubber perhaps? (they probably get rekt by the Soviets in Manchuria there tho, like irl). Option 3 is that seeing as Imperialism has failed in Italy and Germany, and Communism prevails over Europe, the Japanese Communists rise up against the Emperor and side with the Soviets. Sorry that it is so long, just wanted to make some points.
@@freddiemercury8625 dw about the length, but you are wrong about some big things that you need to think about. 1 The Marshal plan will not be implemented in this scenario as Europe will fall under Soviet power. 2 The USSR would not have the same type of occupation troubles as the nazis. They would most likely use local communists to reorganise new SSRs, France for one had a substantial communist party. 3 These new states would not only not be importing from America, they would be integrated into the Soviet economy, meaning that the USSR would most likely be dwarfing the US economy by the end of 60. Think about it, if Europe falls, what big economies can the US export to? It's not an economy made for self production, it was reliant on foreign markets and foreign resources. It has now lost it BY FAR biggest market to the enemy. I don't see a way America comes out on top without nuking them into submission.
@@Linesweeper So you are telling me that the only way to win this war is pretty much a Nuclear Holocaust, right? Well, I am glad that in the end, Churchill was considered a madman for this idea because let's just say that the society would not recover from such heavy nuclear fallout. It is sometimes quite fascinating to think of what could've happened that nearly led to us being near-extinction. Either way, you are probably right about this based on the statistics and logic that is used. And yeah, I completely forgot about the Communist support in countries like France and Italy.
I think they just did a naval invasion in southern Europe, and when you do that and your allies come in to help you conquer stuff the land they take goes to you.
Probably yes But China was still in a civil war at the time Operation unthinkable would have launches which is why they arent shown Also Japan isnt shown I know it isnt involved in the plans for the operation but I still think the allies would have had them Join the war
If you want this to be realistic it has to be with a powered up Soviet Union Allies only having half of their military remaining most of the US military in the Pacific
As someone else mentioned, the start date shouldn’t have been 1940, realistically it would have been at least 1948, and what happened to eastern germany? And the soviets had Bessarabia
i believe the cold war had austria divided and Hungary was eastern bloc. could be wrong but i think it was like that. edit: apparently Hungary was in the eastern bloc just the allies never invaded them for some reason. my bad.
I think they tried to but the Soviets just stacked a shit load of dicisions there for whatever reason, then Hungary erupted in civil war anyway and that did it
Agree, allies started with more factories and a bigger army and probably a bigger airforce and navy. Soviet should at least have start with a bigger army then the allies. Soviet army was by far the largest in Europe
Yugoslavia was always neutral and even as a communist country was especially in early cold war much more likely to side with the allies than with USSR because Tito (leader of Yugoslavia) didnt like Stalin at all and so relations with USSR and Yugoslavia were very bad at time until Stalin died.
Different specialists have different opinions, but the general consensus is that the Allies would have won Operation Unthinkable, though not a total victory. USSR had several key weaknesses: Doctrine Frail logistical system Obsolete technology Frail agriculture Inferior navy and air force. While Germany managed to do so much damage with half the forces, a united Unthinkable would have been catastrophic for the USSR.
@@andreikovacs3476 in these situations, quantity is better than quality, but everyone has different opinions and we will never know who would have really won
@@GabrielGarcia-km2ou The problem with quantity is that it needs a higher quantity of supplies as well. And given that the railway gauge changes from Russia to the rest of Europe, it means they would be unable to advance without running out of fuel, ammo and food in 3 days.
@@andreikovacs3476 that's still the main problem of Russia in this days They have a good millitary, well trained and with discipline, don't having very much equipement in reserve, but anyway they can destroy any east-european country
This was only possible if germany had been democratic the whole time and the allies had been building up militarily. Post WW2 the Soviet Union hands down would have had the lead for at least 10 years.
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"hey, Germany, remember that time you invaded Poland so we crushed you in return? We kinda need you to do that again."
"You need me to WHAT?"
Germany: Oh yea boi
And we'll let you annex Austria again
Germans were probably just thinking "Ere we go again"
ach Scheiße, hier gehen wir wieder
At least they couldn‘t loose this time
German republic in 1940? it's just like the reich same stuff same focus trees same industry because Zai probably changed the ideologies or installed a mod. So in brief the defeat of the USSR wasn't suprising at all because simply the comintern were fighting the axis which had the powerful troops and allies which had the naval and air supermacy at the same plus the USSR probably still reiciving debuffs from the Great Purge.But surprisingly the USSR held 4 years I think, which is good and also if you look closely the Turkish were giving military acess to the allies which gave them acess to the black sea and started invading Romania and Crimea.
Well, now they have lebensraum
@@ZaiTime Alles was wir tun mussten war den verdammten Krieg zu gewinnen!
5:48 Germany be like "Quick! DO the anchluss while nobody is looking!"
I think its the same faction event.
😂
4th times the charm
You'reThatMantis Beat me to it
Bug event
The start date should've been 1945
Yeah. I was trying to give more of a timeframe for reference, but next time i do this I will mod the time.
@@ZaiTime zai did you make map cus i found 2 mayor mistaked besserabia and sout something that bulgaria owned
Not so mayor mistakes lol atleast in same faction
@@rrramblex also a bit of checoslovakia
he also should have given the soviets more manpower and factories while lowering the allied manpower because at the end of the second world war the soveits were in (relatively) fantastic shape when it came to their ability to wage war while the allies (with the exeption of the usa and Britain) where exhausted
I like that the Irish troops still didn’t trust the uk enough to take troops of of the border
Show the man power and casualties like 6,000,000 because its better like that
I don't think there is a way to format the number using DaVinci Resolve which is the editor I use :/
@@ZaiTime do you manually add casualties or is it a mod
Third times the charm
It was for Germany at least
Lmao
French soldier: never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a German
German soldier: How about side by side with a friend?
French soldier: aye, i could do that.
4:44 Holy Chicken McCrackNuggets! Look at that big ass encirclement!!!
It was a MASSIVE encirclement
I their happen because the AI couldn’t push into the Balkans so they just went around it
Where was it?
Where? I can't see it
Seriously, I want to see the Peace-Deal. It's the Icing on the cake. Even if it's horrible, show it.
I've won, but at what cost ?
Allies: ok were gonna invade the USSR but we are gonna Liberate, not Subjugate.
France Germany and the Netherlands: yeS
That encirclement is last nail of coffin.
Amazing video! I will subscribe for more of this amazing content!
Thank you
It would be easier to see the frontlines if you showed the factions instead of nations.
But then we wouldn't have seen the Netherlands zooming into Russia.
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Noted!
Just the American troops flooding in little by little in the beginning was satisfying
Weres east Germany plus east Austria? and at the time of operation unthinkable japan would still be in the war
It wasn't a perfect replica. I was making the video more to show a hypothetical match up between US+UK vs USSR
Yay Nederland was stronk
Nationalist Spain: I have mastered the art of staying so incredibly still I am invisible to the human eye.
Great video👍👍👍
thank you :)
@@ZaiTime No problem) When New video?
Generally I release new videos 8 AM GMT
Very good timelapse, enjoyed it a lot! But it was very realistic to be fair, the Soviets could never match the Allies economically, so therefore always less factories working on producing weapons and the war would just be a long period of fighting with hundreds of millions dead, the winner asking themselves that they won but at what cost? The only difference is the US would probably launch the nukes that were meant for Japan at the USSR. Great video!
Thank you!
The soviet union was sitting on the largest stockpile of tanks by the end of the war that has ever existed, had this happened the red army would've rolled any troops the allies had in continental europe unless America started nuking them, the economic strength of closed economies can't be seen in their GDP, which is why the USSR always looked economically weak. Operation unthinkable was frankly unthinkable
@@Linesweeper I think it would be pretty much WW2 all over again, except that the UK is stranded alone in Europe (let's be honest, the Soviet Navy and Airforce are no match for the RN and RAF) but this time it includes the Soviet Union's territories in the occupied zones. Would you consider though that ,after some time, the USA and the remainder of the Allies could outproduce the USSR in equipment (e.g. produce large amounts of weapons to counter the tanks?). Indeed, the USSR was a large military power, but the American industry would still be larger. Plus, the USSR would have to deal with constant uprisings and resistance in occupied territories, slowing down their process of development, unlike the Allies who would not control a large part of Europe. Also, just one more question, since this is an interesting topic, what would you think Japan would do in this kind of situation? I think of it as three options. Option 1: Japan remains neutral and focuses on rebuilding its military after heavy losses in China, leaving itself in dishonour (since most likely they would negotiate some sort of deal with the Chinese after many bloody years of fighting, probably a truce, if the Chinese accept it), Option 2: Japan sides with the Allied Powers, the Allies could negotiate a deal with the Japanese in exchange for exploitation of colonial resources such as oil and rubber perhaps? (they probably get rekt by the Soviets in Manchuria there tho, like irl). Option 3 is that seeing as Imperialism has failed in Italy and Germany, and Communism prevails over Europe, the Japanese Communists rise up against the Emperor and side with the Soviets. Sorry that it is so long, just wanted to make some points.
@@freddiemercury8625 dw about the length, but you are wrong about some big things that you need to think about. 1 The Marshal plan will not be implemented in this scenario as Europe will fall under Soviet power. 2 The USSR would not have the same type of occupation troubles as the nazis. They would most likely use local communists to reorganise new SSRs, France for one had a substantial communist party. 3 These new states would not only not be importing from America, they would be integrated into the Soviet economy, meaning that the USSR would most likely be dwarfing the US economy by the end of 60. Think about it, if Europe falls, what big economies can the US export to? It's not an economy made for self production, it was reliant on foreign markets and foreign resources. It has now lost it BY FAR biggest market to the enemy. I don't see a way America comes out on top without nuking them into submission.
@@Linesweeper So you are telling me that the only way to win this war is pretty much a Nuclear Holocaust, right? Well, I am glad that in the end, Churchill was considered a madman for this idea because let's just say that the society would not recover from such heavy nuclear fallout. It is sometimes quite fascinating to think of what could've happened that nearly led to us being near-extinction. Either way, you are probably right about this based on the statistics and logic that is used. And yeah, I completely forgot about the Communist support in countries like France and Italy.
The Swiss are all like "da fuck they doing over there?".
Borders are wrong. USSR should have had bessarabia, southern bessarabia and carpathian ruthenia.
Also there is no east germany.
I think the timelapse started a bit late, after the fall of East Germany.
The whole Russian population just died
No, like 1/10.
And it wasn't all russians so even less than than
@@chaos4395 yea your right I missread 15m to 150m
Well, since Modern Russia’s population is shrinking due to the generation echos of WWII, but if this happened… Yep they be ded…
I wish we could see the aftermath and the statistics and stuff but still very nice
How did the netherlands get that terretory lol, they didn't have a big army
I think they just did a naval invasion in southern Europe, and when you do that and your allies come in to help you conquer stuff the land they take goes to you.
Admit it boys, non-nuclear WW3 looking kinda good.
I appreciate the Dutch occupation of the Caucasus.
If China is in the Eastern bloc would it make any difference?
Probably yes
But China was still in a civil war at the time Operation unthinkable would have launches which is why they arent shown
Also Japan isnt shown I know it isnt involved in the plans for the operation but I still think the allies would have had them Join the war
If you want this to be realistic it has to be with a powered up Soviet Union
Allies only having half of their military remaining most of the US military in the Pacific
But Yugoslavia was non-aligned in the Cold War?
*although ideologically socialist
Whenever I try doing this scenario the Soviets always get into a civil war because I removed their focus, how did you get them to not do that?
They get a civil war due to the great purge
As someone else mentioned, the start date shouldn’t have been 1940, realistically it would have been at least 1948, and what happened to eastern germany? And the soviets had Bessarabia
why no eastern germany?
i believe the cold war had austria divided and Hungary was eastern bloc. could be wrong but i think it was like that.
edit: apparently Hungary was in the eastern bloc just the allies never invaded them for some reason. my bad.
I think they tried to but the Soviets just stacked a shit load of dicisions there for whatever reason, then Hungary erupted in civil war anyway and that did it
He put it in 1939, what a gigga chad.
Did ussr have more divisions even though they had less factories?
It looks somewhere like an all out ant war! 😄
Shouldn't Yugoslavia be neutral?
Why Eastern Germany wasn't in this timelapse?
So why is the scenario taking place in 1939?
*Starts in 1939
*Germany isn't even split up east and west
So, Operation Unthinkable was started in 1939?
where the GDR?
I figured it would be easier for the Soviet AI to not have the GDR, and thus make it a more engaging timelapse.
What do the big dark spots that keep appearing on Russia mean
Summer/winter
Unthinkable is supposed to begin with 1945 borders not 1939.
Germany looking thicc
Germany: Ah scheiße, here we go again
After the WW2 had ended we (Czechoslovakia) lost Carpathian Ruthenia to the USSR. So the map is incorrect.
Ritter Von Greim is the best chief of air force
Emm and what is with ussr having east germany and 10 million manpower on field?
Then INGSOC takes over.
Just Try It If The Allied Air Forces Are Only Limited To 1000
what is that manpower counter?
Its impressive
A bunch of painful math equations implemented in DaVinci resolve. It takes about 2-3x longer getting these videos done than a regular timelapse.
@@ZaiTime OK, can you add me on discord? Romuttaja#3819
Nice idea , bad realized tho , auiet a lot of errors in the map
That’s not the flag of China, that’s the flag of Taiwan
It's the flag of true China. Aka the Republic of China in exile
Now resurrect one of your old saves, fix that border gore, and let it roll.
allies always win because of usa
Yeah I tried to nerf the USA by deleting there troops and leaving Great Depression debuffs but they still got strong
After WW2 Bulgaria owned Southern Dobruja
Game ?
Wow
Finally germany got the dub after the 2 world wars
this was unfair from the start
Agree, allies started with more factories and a bigger army and probably a bigger airforce and navy. Soviet should at least have start with a bigger army then the allies. Soviet army was by far the largest in Europe
Kind of ironic how Germany gets all the territory it wanted during the nazi period
Yugoslavia was always neutral and even as a communist country was especially in early cold war much more likely to side with the allies than with USSR because Tito (leader of Yugoslavia) didnt like Stalin at all and so relations with USSR and Yugoslavia were very bad at time until Stalin died.
I know that this is just a game, but URSS would have destroied the Allies if they attacked them
Different specialists have different opinions, but the general consensus is that the Allies would have won Operation Unthinkable, though not a total victory.
USSR had several key weaknesses:
Doctrine
Frail logistical system
Obsolete technology
Frail agriculture
Inferior navy and air force.
While Germany managed to do so much damage with half the forces, a united Unthinkable would have been catastrophic for the USSR.
@@andreikovacs3476 in these situations, quantity is better than quality, but everyone has different opinions and we will never know who would have really won
@@GabrielGarcia-km2ou The problem with quantity is that it needs a higher quantity of supplies as well. And given that the railway gauge changes from Russia to the rest of Europe, it means they would be unable to advance without running out of fuel, ammo and food in 3 days.
@@andreikovacs3476 that's still the main problem of Russia in this days
They have a good millitary, well trained and with discipline, don't having very much equipement in reserve, but anyway they can destroy any east-european country
@@GabrielGarcia-km2ou
Yep. NATO strategy always was to let Russia enter their speedbump border states and then do a counterattack.
WW2* Not 3
Complete alternate cause ur borders are incorrect :(
*game crashed*
Austria and Switzerland: :D
Its hard how weak the eastern bloc was.
in hoi4 whoever has factories wins
@Albert D we dont know the exact industry in real life. hoi4 cant simulate real life accurately
This was only possible if germany had been democratic the whole time and the allies had been building up militarily. Post WW2 the Soviet Union hands down would have had the lead for at least 10 years.
United Germany wtf
Should've weakened UK and France and Germany because war devastation.
Why u domy show conference peace?
Ww3 but 1939
1940 start Germany at its Strongest
In this reality the eastern bloc is the good because they were defending, but as everything the americans are in, the NATO will be the "good"
Вот почему бот на СССР все время проигрывает
dutch bulgaria
Odd borders
poor poland
Ложь! Пропаганда!
What even is this?
OPERATION: Unthinkable - HOI4 WW3 Timelapse
It's in the title bruh
Isn’t Yugoslavia neutral
Napoleon achieved the capture of moscow