How I Dodge Malenia's Triple Slash Follow-up (Slow vs Fast Explained)
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2023
- It really is just a gut feeling that you build tbh but this strat I use will eliminate the need to even know what she is going to do anyways. Feeble had a strat I remember where he would get far and then jump over it with a jump R2 to stagger her, although I have no idea if this is actually reliable since I fear she can either go into a hyperarmor attack or do the spin jump finisher.
Also, I looked at some Malenia footage from my Anderson video and I guess I'm not hallucinating about the spark animation because it looks like when she did the slow followup there would be no sparks at all in the windup animation, whereas now there is a spark shower for both the fast and slow version. I can't really find anymore info about it though.
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Someone who has already done a slowmo side-by-side comparison: • malenia's triple slash...
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So im definitely not tripping. If you look at my Malenia footage in my Anderson response video you can see that Malenia never used to have a spark shower at the startup of the slow variation, only the fast one. Afterwards it was patched out so that both variations have the spark shower particle animation dueing the windup. Tell the people who say they patched malenia to be easier to put that in their pipe and smoke it.
At the risk of making an Andersonism, it really does seem like an accident, like some dev was like "oh somebody forgot to turn on this particle animation for malenia" and added it back in and didn't tell anyone
Andersonism sounds like a funny word. What is it about?
@@victorprati7908 just referring to his tendencies like asking absurd rhetorical questions for example. In this case it's his tendency to blame something he doesn't understand on a glitch or developer incompetence
@@loopine That's funny lmao
When she does the slow one she leans into it just before she starts to dash forward like she is trying to gain extra momentum . It's another one of those attacks where ya just gotta put in the hours
It feels a bit like how you have to read Gurranq’s body language to know he’s about to use the retreating double slash attack
Thanks for the info. I've recently beaten her with the Godfrey's axe no healing, and if she would do the faster version, you could hit her with an R1, if she did the slower, you could even do an uncharged buffed R2 (that is exclusive to the axe) and if she would go into waterfowl, still have time to avoid it in medium roll. And then people say there's no way you can use slow special attacks in this game
Axe of dogfrey... hehe
The reason people say that is because they're playing the game like Dark Souls 3 where you strictly i-frame the bosses attacks and hit them while they're recovering but Elden Ring is so much deeper than that.
What I do for the attack is roll forward left and then start walking backwards, if she does the fast I'll outspace it and if she does slow I can que up a charge attack, it makes the fight a bit slower if she doesn't give me slow ones but just guarantees I won't missroll and get caught by the slow.
That’s pretty much what I do too
If you run to her right when she does the triple slice attack you can hit her with a slightly charge heavy before she does the final follow up, it's very consistent
proud to have actually (kind of) found this one out on my first playthrough, still feels nice dodging it every other time because i keep trying to dodge it backwards for some fucking reason
still takes a bit to get used to it again after not fighting her for a while though
My first pkaythru I had the eureka moment with the spark animation tell but they patched it out :(
I don't think that I can "master it", but for some reason I also kind of know which of the two is she gonna do even if I don't understand why. It's weird, really weird, because almost every other boss attack I just dodge it by learning it, and not by "somehow knowing what's gonna happen". But I can't do it consistently so I think I'll just try any other thing lol
for me it's not gut instincts anymore i can just see it now. Ive spent way too much time with mally kek
That's when you know you're down bad 💀
at least im down bad for the somewhat decent fight and not fucking rennala or smth
@@aly3392 but she got them 🦶
@@loopine maybe if she was a good boss KEKW
Im personally a potato with this so what I do is roll backwards and wait a tiny bit, as thankfully she does the follow up Fairy quickly. But damn, that move is making me loose a lot if I try to heal.
If you dodge into and to your right on the first two slashes she will most likely miss the last one
I didn't even realize she could do it in different speeds but I manage to dodge it still consistently now that I have new PC that doesn't get fps drops. Before on my 10 years old PC it was impossible.
Interesting. I saw a guy fight Melania and the way he dodged this attack was interesting. He seemed to always know whether she was going to use the fast or slow follow up. For the fast follow up he would roll right into it and then punish her if she followed up with the front flip attack. But on the slow follow up he wouldn’t roll and would outspace it to do a heavy attack. I don’t know how he managed to know if she was going to use the fast or slow one, I still can’t figure it out and maybe I’m missing a potential punish opportunity if she follows up with the front flip double slash which she seems to do more often depending on your proximity.
I just roll the first three slashes and then try to create some distance because in my mind she’ll probably do the slow follow up more often if you are further away, and I can use the long reach of the Zwei to punish her if she does the slow attack.
I think if you read Nathan's comment on this video that might be helpful
@@loopine Yeah I think he and I probably deal with the attack in the same way. I roll forward left and start walking backwards, if she does the slow follow up then great I can outspace for a fully charged heavy but if she does the fast one then oh well I keep evading usually until I get a more suitable opening. Some big brained people have seemingly figured out which one she uses though so they can roll into her to bait the front flip for an extra punish if she does the fast one. But that’s interesting how you kinda queue up the dodge but release it late if she does the slow one, I’d rather outspace the slow one as opposed to roll it if I can
I also think that she raises her non-prosthetic arm up a bit too compared to her fast version which looks more relaxed.
I am currently trying to hitless and make a video on her fight and due to this observation I made, I am able to differentiate between the two correctly 100% of the time
What headset are you using? It looks cool
Gold Planar GL2000
More made in abyss ost, im crying bro, just got to her with a YOU inspired strength/dex build,
Wish me luck lol
She has a slow/fast variation on that attack??? I literally never noticed
It's called bad design
You can dodge it by walking 2 ft away from her after you roll and it completely negates the guessing game. Removing the spark telegraph still seems like a miss though
@e I know but having the same attack with 2 different timings is cheap
@phulbaks Fair. On one hand I like how a lot of attacks are meant to force the player to come up with other dodges such as strafing, spacing, ducking and jumping. This is an example of that, just not a particularly good one. On the other hand can't rely deny that an attack like is is not good move design, not to mention the actual problem of it being too tight to roll thru on spots of crazy arena elevation
Jesus Christ. Literally same exact animation in same exact pose with same exact silhouette but slightly different height. This is fucking crime of videogame animation, and you are defending it?
This is like that one Valkyrie in GOW that does one thing when you go left and another when right but animations are the same.
You should try speedrunning hydlyde 64
Hey dipshit, if you actually watched the video you'd realize I'm not defending it, I'm just explaining the phenomenon of runners being able to dodge it and themselves not even knowing how. As I say in the description and the pinned comment I am baffled on why they removed the spark particle animation. Also none of it really matters as you can just space the attack, you don't have to roll it.
@@loopine you are defending elden ring's bosses with your vids being pinned against joseph anderson's, yet the game pulls shit like that which is by all steches of logic complete ass. So he was right all along and you are simply sniping for honey in bucket of piss.
@@vazazell5967you are braindead beyond hope