@triplethreatgaming8583 yea, I have all the gear. Just don't have the points in the right place and am very disappointed with my level 100 rogue. I know it has insane, fun potential
Test out shared misery + fist of fate with this setup. I noticed the immobilize and daze are great if you happen to miss a venom pool to reset your poison Imbue.
All three (cunning node, tibault's, and bursting venoms) are super silly glitches on their own. Combine them for a chance to beat AoZ as rogue :D I'm curious about something I've heard - that with this glitch combination, the % on the Condemnation unique effect doesn't matter (as in it doesn't work)? Not sure if true or not.
When you are above 3 combo points, the % dmg increase aspect on condemnation does not work. It only works when you at AT 3 combo points. So tibaults breaks it. Still worth using tho b/c of the combo point dmg gain is so big.
@@apollo5756 Mm yeah u are right, but still u need to crit for. Also seems TC got own lucky hit chance and even with high overall lucky hit bonuses that i got (items+elixir) - chance to proc xfals with TC passive is pretty low.
Keep in mind I didn't actually have a "build" going, nor did I have any of the buffs like CQC or tibaults will up. In this video, I was just displaying the bursting venom mechanic. That being said... actual build coming soon~
I just started doing some shared misery and frost burns on a storm claw Druid. Pretty good build for CC everything. Can get xfals to generate so much pops even with a 61% lucky hit claw effect. Can’t wait for you to get to Druid for testing broken stuff lol. Good videos!
@@MrAngryfatkid I was saying I like the build. I’m testing today with my Druid and Xfals interactions with and without shared misery. I don’t notice an increase in Xfals procs with shared misery but I did notice Xfals actually triggering my frozen target with shared misery from frost burns in a delayed fashion.
only skills deal lucky hit, maybe some of these lucky hit proc effects are also considered skills to being able to proc again a lucky hit for another proc (or maybe for itself). perhaps, with lucky hit with active barrier, atk spd and lucky hit bonus elixir, we would be able to proc so much frequent lucky hits everywhere, who knows
hi xarrio, thanks for another very valuable insight of another possible build idea for rogue. but i have another question related to your previous video, in which also is a follow up question actually. when i tried RF + advanced RF + metamorphosis, the buff of 30%x to crit works in the overworld but i noticed that as soon as i am in a dungeon, it will not proc. but when i go into the vampiric power page, equip and unequip the skill, it will suddenly work again. not sure if you have the idea on if it is bugged? or just well ~ metamorphosis is not consider as evade in dungeon =="
I am trying to "fun share" not "fun police" blizz already said they aren't nerfing anything this season, and many people don't know about these "mechanics"
I'm also using the umbrous aspect for the free shrouds instead of disobedience on chest armor. other than doombringer ..it seems not to work on windforce as well, could you verify that?
For AoZ, I would highly recommend running both umbrous and disobedience. You'll need the armor. I believe windforce only procs on windforce arrow hits as it says "hits with this weapon", so I don't think bursting venoms can proc it.
You would think it would, but no, it actually does nothing. You don't even get the normal additional 2 arrows that you get without tibaults. So... if you are using RF + tibaults, don't use cunning.
For TB? Definitely. For RF? Unsure. Hard to know until we test it in AoZ. For AoE, I think poison will be better, but for big single target dmg vs elites, ice will be better. For bosses... could go either way, not sure. Depends how fast we can stagger these new bosses. I'll be going ice though to begin for sure.
Well when I equip doombringer, bursting venoms does not proc, but when I switch to my ancestral daggers it procs like all the time. Maybe you can try it on an NMD and see if it happens to u as well. Im guessing it procs the Doombringer Lucky hit instead of the Bursting Venoms.
I can proc BV with doombringer no problem. What are you trying to proc BV with? If you are using pestilent, is that on your dagger that you are unequipping to put doom on? @@justinereyes1616
When you take off your dagger for doom, you are removing pestilent points. Are you putting it on a diff piece of gear? Pest points is the main way of proccing bursting venoms most likely.@@justinereyes1616
The broken thing is 20 cp not bv please stop calling for nerfs to rogue . barb& sorc waay stronger than him by a mile guess what they didn't complain about being op! .
When did I ask for a nerf? Blizz already said they aren't nerfing anything this season. So no need to worry about that. But hopefully they will fix all of these things that aren't worry correctly/clearly OP next season and give some power back in other places with correctly working mechanics.
@@Xarriocalling it broken don’t act like you don’t understand nerdy shit like this is what ruins games people like yourself finding the time to find these “ broken “ “ OP “ things 99.9% of folks dont care 2 nore should they in a PVE GAME like my god listen to yourself
@@Xarrio reminds me of the shadow nerf they did to rogues on s2 launch that wasn’t in the patch notes and was only discovered after we realized our dmg changed without changing our build. Never trust blizzard. Regardless of what they say
Can you make a full build guide with gear skills and paragon board and showcase a video of gameplay to see how viable it is for tier 100 nightmare dungeon and if it is for the new abattoir of Zir
I'll see what I can do. Twisted blade rogues like lucky already do this a bit with bursting venoms. I'll see if I can do a range version of it though a bit.
Wudijo has a build using Pen shot and RF that takes advantage of the crazy high lucky hit. I've been running Efficient Rogue's Pen shot w/ RF and victimize, which also takes advantage of the guaranteed lucky hit. Thinking his might be better for speed farming lower NM dungeons, but wudijo's with poison would probably be better at higher levels.
It's fine, as long as the aoe elite mods stay active regardless of weather elite mob is frozen, knocked down, dazed or sometimes even dead - I don't see anything that benefits the player as "broken" PS. I have died many a time to aoe damage under bursting venom's graphics, or poison mine graphics. I think of these as drawbacks of poison rogue build since it never happens if I play cold or shadow imbue rogue.
Think you missed the point of the vid my man. (or maybe I wasn't clear enough at the start) This isn't a build video, nor is it about doombringer. This is a video about a mechanic w/ bursting venoms. Doom is just 1 of the items that was tested.
Hey Xarrio, I have a weird thing going on with burstjng venoms and I don't know what triggers it. Sometimes it gives me multiple poison ticks. So with my build now I can reach up to 800K dmg poison. But sometimes it doubles. In fact today I had 4 poison ticks at the same time. Then I switch gear and it's back to normal and next day it's back. Also it triggers my lucky hit like mad to the point I no longer need a basic skill, but holding down flurry is enough to keep my energy on max?????
Are you using frostburn? Frostburn has a resource back on lucky hit that gives you a ton of energy back b/c we are always lucky hitting. Also, the ticks doubling is probably the difference between an enemy that is frozen vs not frozen would be my guess b/c of frigid finesse. Also could be CQC being up vs not up. Or tibaults will buff being up vs not up.
@Xarrio No, I use the Grasp of Shadows, Temerity and Flickerstep usually. Although the bug triggers with other items too. I've uploaded a fragment to show you what it looks like.
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Here is the new build guide for this crazy interaction!: ua-cam.com/video/4UQIzpOIHq0/v-deo.html
Can you share your full skill tree, paragon, and gear?!
I’d also be interested in seeing a good build from you. I just got andariel’s visage and really want to make use of it
@triplethreatgaming8583 yea, I have all the gear. Just don't have the points in the right place and am very disappointed with my level 100 rogue. I know it has insane, fun potential
I haven't made a build w/ this setup yet. But I'm sure I could put somethin decent together pretty easily. @@docliquidplays7989
@@docliquidplays7989 yea my biggest problem with rogue is survivability honestly. I can pump really good damage but I’m squishy
my favorite bug in the game right now. so much potential for creative fun builds
Def some ridiculous combos.
Test out shared misery + fist of fate with this setup. I noticed the immobilize and daze are great if you happen to miss a venom pool to reset your poison Imbue.
All three (cunning node, tibault's, and bursting venoms) are super silly glitches on their own. Combine them for a chance to beat AoZ as rogue :D
I'm curious about something I've heard - that with this glitch combination, the % on the Condemnation unique effect doesn't matter (as in it doesn't work)? Not sure if true or not.
When you are above 3 combo points, the % dmg increase aspect on condemnation does not work. It only works when you at AT 3 combo points. So tibaults breaks it. Still worth using tho b/c of the combo point dmg gain is so big.
Ahh, makes sense. The madness never ends. Thank you!@@Xarrio
Np. There is more madness to come. Don't worry. @@MattiasTheGamer
Its like Toxic Claws druid passive, that is a poison proc dmg AND can proc Xfals after. Thx for ur work!
Thats not a proc since its not tied to lucky hit
@@apollo5756 Mm yeah u are right, but still u need to crit for. Also seems TC got own lucky hit chance and even with high overall lucky hit bonuses that i got (items+elixir) - chance to proc xfals with TC passive is pretty low.
Hey Buddy thx fir the video can u Show it in detail like paragon skillpoints pls
Holy .... i was wondering how to proc BV consistantly. Thank you.
Bro could you show us a tier 100 run with this build or a link build planner , thank you so much for sharing
Ya, I could put somethin together.
Does this work with twisting blades cus im looking threw this and my attack power has droped nore then half now and my armor dropped like 2 k
It’s the DoT that comes with BV. Each one of those ticks can proc everything else.
Yeah no shit.... But it's not supposed to... Like the dot from Andariels doesn't proc xfal.... Etc.
Doesn't seem busted to me. A barbarian one shots that pack of tier 100 dummies, while a PenShot with a guaranteed bursting venom doesnt :/
Keep in mind I didn't actually have a "build" going, nor did I have any of the buffs like CQC or tibaults will up. In this video, I was just displaying the bursting venom mechanic. That being said... actual build coming soon~
any Idea how aspect of elements poison multiplier works with all these other effects together? (imbuement, xfals, andariels, bursting venoms)
This is nuts. You can almost just run around T100's slapping enemies around with puncture 🤢🤮☠️
I just started doing some shared misery and frost burns on a storm claw Druid. Pretty good build for CC everything. Can get xfals to generate so much pops even with a 61% lucky hit claw effect. Can’t wait for you to get to Druid for testing broken stuff lol. Good videos!
Thx
Are you saying shared misery and frost burn is proccing xfals more than it should? Or you just like the build?
@@MrAngryfatkid I was saying I like the build. I’m testing today with my Druid and Xfals interactions with and without shared misery. I don’t notice an increase in Xfals procs with shared misery but I did notice Xfals actually triggering my frozen target with shared misery from frost burns in a delayed fashion.
Wait so i have 19 combo points because my max resource isnt higher on tibalts will?
Yes
Bursting venoms is FINE. Tibault's Will giving TWENTY THREE combo points is broken
we turning the game into grim dawn now :O
only skills deal lucky hit, maybe some of these lucky hit proc effects are also considered skills to being able to proc again a lucky hit for another proc (or maybe for itself). perhaps, with lucky hit with active barrier, atk spd and lucky hit bonus elixir, we would be able to proc so much frequent lucky hits everywhere, who knows
i been running this setup a lot. the frostburn gloves paired with noxious ice aspect tho . oooooo
Ok but how i can copy ur build, paragon and skills points?? u.u
Will put out in the next day or two, spent today testing and building.
Man... I wana get just one good Uber unique, man... Just one.
Could u please test which passives is stronger than the other one for poison imbuement rogue? like exploit, deadly venom,malice etc.
Will they ever fix the clone? I think the aspect where its mimics your imbues is also broken?
hi xarrio, thanks for another very valuable insight of another possible build idea for rogue. but i have another question related to your previous video, in which also is a follow up question actually.
when i tried RF + advanced RF + metamorphosis, the buff of 30%x to crit works in the overworld but i noticed that as soon as i am in a dungeon, it will not proc.
but when i go into the vampiric power page, equip and unequip the skill, it will suddenly work again.
not sure if you have the idea on if it is bugged? or just well ~ metamorphosis is not consider as evade in dungeon =="
Awesome video ty
Big Brain strats, I'm here for it
Puncture imbued with poison is also able to proc different procs. So you can drop the spender if you want.
Yea a build with all this stuff for complete CC could be pretty useful for the new event
does twisting Blade woeks with this?>
yes
Bro, let be. Fun policing is not a good look. Thanks for the hustle but use that to help players.
I am trying to "fun share" not "fun police" blizz already said they aren't nerfing anything this season, and many people don't know about these "mechanics"
Is this going to be a viable build for aoz though 🤔
We shall see!
I'm also using the umbrous aspect for the free shrouds instead of disobedience on chest armor.
other than doombringer ..it seems not to work on windforce as well, could you verify that?
For AoZ, I would highly recommend running both umbrous and disobedience. You'll need the armor. I believe windforce only procs on windforce arrow hits as it says "hits with this weapon", so I don't think bursting venoms can proc it.
What was your highest poison tick dmg?
Does BV work for RF as well?
It can proc from any poison imbued skill.
Great content once again my dood! Thanks 🙏
On another note; have any updates of prey of the weak not working correctly?
Thanks! No, nothing significant. Still seems to be additive based on the testing.
Would the cunning stratagem node also triple the combo points bonus to rapid fire? Meaning triple the arrow count bonus?
You would think it would, but no, it actually does nothing. You don't even get the normal additional 2 arrows that you get without tibaults. So... if you are using RF + tibaults, don't use cunning.
Is there a build guide for this one?
Will put out in the next day or two, spent today testing and building.
@@Xarrio awesome
Can you do a build with this mechanic? 😁
Will put out in the next day or two, spent today testing and building.
what lucky hit chance does burning venom have (maybe uses lucky hit of poison imbuement?) How often can it proc other effects?
I mean it doesnt really matter since he is also using the tibaults penetrating shot bug for insane amounts of lucky hit
@@apollo5756 it does since the whole point of his video was that its a proc that procs other procs...
@apollo5756 that cp luckhit only works at pshot not the bv after. Bb has its own luckhit chance
If BV is so powerful, in your opinion, is "poison" better than "ice" ? ( as a preparation for AoZ)
For TB? Definitely. For RF? Unsure. Hard to know until we test it in AoZ. For AoE, I think poison will be better, but for big single target dmg vs elites, ice will be better. For bosses... could go either way, not sure. Depends how fast we can stagger these new bosses. I'll be going ice though to begin for sure.
@@Xarrio as a Xarrio fan, Definitely RF! 😆
Any idea how bursting venoms does not proc as usual when equipping doombring and condemnation?
Can you explain further? I haven't noticed anything regarding this.
Well when I equip doombringer, bursting venoms does not proc, but when I switch to my ancestral daggers it procs like all the time. Maybe you can try it on an NMD and see if it happens to u as well. Im guessing it procs the Doombringer Lucky hit instead of the Bursting Venoms.
I can proc BV with doombringer no problem. What are you trying to proc BV with? If you are using pestilent, is that on your dagger that you are unequipping to put doom on? @@justinereyes1616
@@Xarrio yeah correct, i got pestilent points on my dagger. What could be the reason?
When you take off your dagger for doom, you are removing pestilent points. Are you putting it on a diff piece of gear? Pest points is the main way of proccing bursting venoms most likely.@@justinereyes1616
I need this build in my life
Will put out in the next day or two, spent today testing and building.
But show us a dungeon running this build
Will put out in the next day or two, spent today testing and building.
The broken thing is 20 cp not bv please stop calling for nerfs to rogue . barb& sorc waay stronger than him by a mile guess what they didn't complain about being op! .
When did I ask for a nerf? Blizz already said they aren't nerfing anything this season. So no need to worry about that. But hopefully they will fix all of these things that aren't worry correctly/clearly OP next season and give some power back in other places with correctly working mechanics.
@Xarrio i hope u change ur class we hate u as rogue players we already getting nerfed because of u and other streamers like u
@@Xarriocalling it broken don’t act like you don’t understand nerdy shit like this is what ruins games people like yourself finding the time to find these “ broken “ “ OP “ things 99.9% of folks dont care 2 nore should they in a PVE GAME like my god listen to yourself
@@Xarrioyou trust blizzard? Oh I’m def not subbing now lol
@@Xarrio reminds me of the shadow nerf they did to rogues on s2 launch that wasn’t in the patch notes and was only discovered after we realized our dmg changed without changing our build. Never trust blizzard. Regardless of what they say
Can you make a full build guide with gear skills and paragon board and showcase a video of gameplay to see how viable it is for tier 100 nightmare dungeon and if it is for the new abattoir of Zir
I'll see what I can do. Twisted blade rogues like lucky already do this a bit with bursting venoms. I'll see if I can do a range version of it though a bit.
Wudijo has a build using Pen shot and RF that takes advantage of the crazy high lucky hit. I've been running Efficient Rogue's Pen shot w/ RF and victimize, which also takes advantage of the guaranteed lucky hit. Thinking his might be better for speed farming lower NM dungeons, but wudijo's with poison would probably be better at higher levels.
My hero ;)
It's fine, as long as the aoe elite mods stay active regardless of weather elite mob is frozen, knocked down, dazed or sometimes even dead - I don't see anything that benefits the player as "broken" PS. I have died many a time to aoe damage under bursting venom's graphics, or poison mine graphics. I think of these as drawbacks of poison rogue build since it never happens if I play cold or shadow imbue rogue.
You lost me at Doombringer....
Next.
i mostly tuned out at doombringer. not everyone has or can get that weapon. tired of these youtube videos and their uber uniques
Think you missed the point of the vid my man. (or maybe I wasn't clear enough at the start) This isn't a build video, nor is it about doombringer. This is a video about a mechanic w/ bursting venoms. Doom is just 1 of the items that was tested.
Hey Xarrio,
I have a weird thing going on with burstjng venoms and I don't know what triggers it.
Sometimes it gives me multiple poison ticks. So with my build now I can reach up to 800K dmg poison. But sometimes it doubles. In fact today I had 4 poison ticks at the same time. Then I switch gear and it's back to normal and next day it's back.
Also it triggers my lucky hit like mad to the point I no longer need a basic skill, but holding down flurry is enough to keep my energy on max?????
Are you using frostburn? Frostburn has a resource back on lucky hit that gives you a ton of energy back b/c we are always lucky hitting. Also, the ticks doubling is probably the difference between an enemy that is frozen vs not frozen would be my guess b/c of frigid finesse. Also could be CQC being up vs not up. Or tibaults will buff being up vs not up.
@Xarrio No, I use the Grasp of Shadows, Temerity and Flickerstep usually. Although the bug triggers with other items too.
I've uploaded a fragment to show you what it looks like.
Nice video. Keep the deep dives coming !