"Rohan my lord is ready to fall." For most readers this was a quick blip in the vast histories of middle earth. I barely remembered anything about this conflict when the show was announced. So glad and thankful that these little known tales are given a chance to shine. I cannot wait to see the Rohirram ride and fight again 🥹❤
The anime is from the same creators as the LOTR trilogy, including Eowyn s actress as narrator. It’s a lower stakes risk of a movie for creators, based on book material.
I’m looking forward to The War of the Rohirrim more than for The Rings of Power. . The main challenge will be creating a compelling story faithful to Tolkien lore which can be appealing for a wider audience. Without Elves, wizards and magic rings
Great video as always but I don’t have much faith in the fan fiction film they’re planning. 😢hopefully it’s not what the reports have been saying though.
It is understood from the interviews that the character Héra, who will play the role of Helm's daughter, will play a more dominant role in the anime. I don't want the character of Héra to get in the way of Helm, the main character of this story. I have reservations about this.
Man, I can’t wait of the Film Mellon!!! I hope we are due for a Tralier or Something!!! Thanks for this Video Preparing for the Movie, Until How without Valar can the Elves stop Morgoth...Marion Baggins Out!!! *Going to listen to the Westernesse Podcasts after this*
frankly, I have zero hope on War of Rohirrim making any real effort to remain true to Tolkien's world. Almost willing to bet they make the Daughter the one who keeps making the "right" choices while the men foolishly get themselves killed and probably will be the won to reconquer Edoras.
I've just assumed that the Haradrim brought the Oliphaunts with them, perhaps on ships furnished by Black Numenoreans. Not that Mumakil couldn't have had a wider range than I've guessed.
Well. This will be an interesting theory video next week. Because didn't the Valar warn them that defeating Morgoth would be impossible. Even if they were thrice stronger?
Really sad that the new animated film seems to be all about the unnamed daughter with the legendary Rohirrim King Helm Hammerhand relegated to background noise.
Regarding the Oliphant, it is well within the realms of realism to assume the Easterlings and the Haradrim traded with each other, and that some of that trade might include war elephants. This was not unheard of in our own history during antiquity so I take no issue there. Where I do is the shield maiden, that is absolutely not within the realms of realism. I'd sooner believe an army of Dwarves rode in on goats to turn the tide of the war than a shield maiden in this society.
Although you're right that Tolkien never lined up this story with modern views on so-called "colonialism" (a term that I dislike), I have to say that I never was able to take Rohan's side in this conflict, and felt that the Dunlendings had real grievances. Frankly, I liked the Rohirrim less and less, the more I read about them, and that surely would have disappoint the professor bitterly. Between some of their cruel acts such as driving off the Dunlendings from land they'd lived on for centuries (possibly without choice, even if they were squatters: see below) and their hunting of the Woses "for sport," and the vile behavior of Helm Hammerhand (who seems psychologically unstable), I was never able to sympathize with them or find them "cool." I don't think I'm alone in this opinion, either, as there must have been a reason why Peter Jackson left them out of the movies altogether. I might also point out that there are some things I've read (possibly non-canon), which add to the Dunlendings' grievances and make their story sound sadder. For one thing, the author of the old "Tolkien Encyclopedia" suggested that they or their ancestors had been a civilized people once, all on their own, but that their fortunes had fallen low (Dunharrow perhaps being one of their settlements), something that the Rohirrim can't boast. Similarly, one of the Tolkien wiki pages (which I can no longer find) claims that they originated in Minhiriath, and area heavily deforested and colonized by the Numenoreans, forcing them into places like Dunland and Calenardhon . . . the altter of which the Gondorians and Rohirrim took away from them anyway, without giving them their old land back. If either of these is true to Tolkien's story, then they had a real reason to be hostile, and even their allying with the Easterlings from such an early point is understandable. (I have, however, other thoughts on that.)
I don't think Tolkien ever intended us to think the Rohirrim or anyone other of the Free Peoples were always in the right. He depicts the Númenoreans as over time becoming cruel tyrants who oppressed many of the peoples in the coastal areas of Middle-Earth. And some of their victims included the ancestors of the Dunlendings although I don't think they had actual nations, more like settlements here and there. Likewise, the Rohirrim at times did evil things although they never were on the side of Sauron. The Rohirrim were descended from the Men of Rhovanion, who at one time had significant kingdoms in that land in the earlier 3rd Age and for the most part were allied with Gondor even then. When you say "I don't think I'm alone in this opinion, either, as there must have been a reason why Peter Jackson left them out of the movies altogether," to whom are you referring?
@@istari0 Im pretty sure he was referring to the Drúedain/Woses with "I don't think I'm alone in this opinion, either, as there must have been a reason why Peter Jackson left them out of the movies altogether,'' as the Woses had been hunted for sport by the Rohirrim.
Helm may have been a "hero" to the rohirrim( can't stand ther rohirrim myslef, so maybe there's bias on my part), but the fact that he waited until Freca back was turned before shoving a spear in his back speaks volumes about him and the rohirrim as a whole, don't get me wrong there are a few good ones, but on the whole the rohirrim are a bunch of a-holes.
Literally pick any other middle earth tale! What fantasy elements are there in this story? No elves, dwarves, not even hobbits, no eagles, ents, trolls, goblins... This could easily just be an episode of Vikings. Was excited to hear they were doing an animated movie because it opens the door to a lot of cool stuff but then when this was announced, i was bummed i dont understand their decision making its the same thing with the choice to make The Hunt for Gollum the next live action film.😮💨
Tolkien: *makes a footnote*
Film execs: that's a wholeass movie right there
praise be to the IP!
I hope whatever creative liberties they make in the movie enhance the story instead of messing it up/making it more convoluted
"Rohan my lord is ready to fall."
For most readers this was a quick blip in the vast histories of middle earth. I barely remembered anything about this conflict when the show was announced. So glad and thankful that these little known tales are given a chance to shine. I cannot wait to see the Rohirram ride and fight again 🥹❤
The anime is from the same creators as the LOTR trilogy, including Eowyn s actress as narrator. It’s a lower stakes risk of a movie for creators, based on book material.
It's all fun and games until Helm Hammerhand comes a knocking....
literally
Man, I hope nothing ruins the upcoming film. I am hyped to 11 for it.
"Forth, Eorlingas!"
It's probably just me, but I feel like the channel intro (the white tree) needs to be a split second longer. It looks so good.
Sunday evening and time to chill.. 😊❤😊
I’m looking forward to The War of the Rohirrim more than for The Rings of Power. . The main challenge will be creating a compelling story faithful to Tolkien lore which can be appealing for a wider audience. Without Elves, wizards and magic rings
Great video as always but I don’t have much faith in the fan fiction film they’re planning. 😢hopefully it’s not what the reports have been saying though.
It is understood from the interviews that the character Héra, who will play the role of Helm's daughter, will play a more dominant role in the anime. I don't want the character of Héra to get in the way of Helm, the main character of this story. I have reservations about this.
I do hope the leaks about the new show are not true and they're actually sticking to the ideas of Tolkien
Dunlendings: Unbound, Unbent, Unbroken
Had everyone to avenge themselves against their aggressive neighbor.
Man, I can’t wait of the Film Mellon!!! I hope we are due for a Tralier or Something!!!
Thanks for this Video Preparing for the Movie, Until How without Valar can the Elves stop Morgoth...Marion Baggins Out!!! *Going to listen to the Westernesse Podcasts after this*
Can't lie looking forward to it but also little worried might do an amazon and try to make the girl the badass
What? No mention of Helm's totally important girlboss daughter singlehandedly saving Rohan with her totally legit army of warrior women?
@erikjaroy8214 they where off fighting trolls in single combat to prove how great they are
ngl worried they might switch roles and have the daughter do stuff which other characters actually did
Shieldmaidens have always been a thing in Rohan
Éomer somewhere commenting on shield maidens, "I do not doubt her heart, rather the reach of her arm".
I hope the studio has been willing to follow the model they used when the LOTR trilogy was made. This really could be a good movie if done right.
Always a pleasure, Thanks for a great video!
Imagine if Eorl, Brego, and Aldor had made peace and respected the rights of the Dunlendings. And that peace continued.
Ishmael and I found Helm frozen in the snow and Ice. We reported to Robert.
“Yoystan” is incredible on issues of lore, especially mirkwood
Why put Yoystan in quotes? That's his actual name.
@@Alexs.2599 i didn’t know that! Do you know if “Royyon” from the reviews is also a real name? I didnt know if they were an alias.
@@dmdebruijn All good yeah its his real name. Yeah his friend Royan is his name as well.
What if smaug got the ring?
Helm King!
frankly, I have zero hope on War of Rohirrim making any real effort to remain true to Tolkien's world. Almost willing to bet they make the Daughter the one who keeps making the "right" choices while the men foolishly get themselves killed and probably will be the won to reconquer Edoras.
I've just assumed that the Haradrim brought the Oliphaunts with them, perhaps on ships furnished by Black Numenoreans. Not that Mumakil couldn't have had a wider range than I've guessed.
Well. This will be an interesting theory video next week. Because didn't the Valar warn them that defeating Morgoth would be impossible. Even if they were thrice stronger?
Really sad that the new animated film seems to be all about the unnamed daughter with the legendary Rohirrim King Helm Hammerhand relegated to background noise.
Regarding the Oliphant, it is well within the realms of realism to assume the Easterlings and the Haradrim traded with each other, and that some of that trade might include war elephants. This was not unheard of in our own history during antiquity so I take no issue there. Where I do is the shield maiden, that is absolutely not within the realms of realism. I'd sooner believe an army of Dwarves rode in on goats to turn the tide of the war than a shield maiden in this society.
Remember the House of Haleth.
I was actually going to give the film a chance up until we got some information recently. Stop desecrating tolkiens works, hollywood
👍🏻👍🏻
"Forth, Eorlingas!"
Seems like the unnamed daughter will be combined with the nephew. Or possibly be the hero that held it down until he does his thing.
Can't wait for the anime movie, I hoped it stays true to the source materials.
Really well made video!!! Keep up the good work!!!!
I don’t care the anime ; it’s Going too fail
Having a significant forces of the easterlings in the film can be a no to the siege of Erebor by them which we never saw in the the trilogy.
looking forward to the anime coming this year
Am I wrong as a Native American to be rooting for the Dunlanders? Lol, JK.
That is one special King for sure
Go Dunlenders
“Ah great warrior? War not make one great “ King Theodan Battle of Pelanor Fields
Very poetic but mistaken.
Will the War of the Rohirim movie be on any other streaming services? I don't have Netflix anymore
I believe it will be a theater release. I have always assumed so.
It’s Warner Bros so it’s likely headed to Max after its theatrical release.
You can go see it in the theaters.
Although you're right that Tolkien never lined up this story with modern views on so-called "colonialism" (a term that I dislike), I have to say that I never was able to take Rohan's side in this conflict, and felt that the Dunlendings had real grievances. Frankly, I liked the Rohirrim less and less, the more I read about them, and that surely would have disappoint the professor bitterly.
Between some of their cruel acts such as driving off the Dunlendings from land they'd lived on for centuries (possibly without choice, even if they were squatters: see below) and their hunting of the Woses "for sport," and the vile behavior of Helm Hammerhand (who seems psychologically unstable), I was never able to sympathize with them or find them "cool." I don't think I'm alone in this opinion, either, as there must have been a reason why Peter Jackson left them out of the movies altogether.
I might also point out that there are some things I've read (possibly non-canon), which add to the Dunlendings' grievances and make their story sound sadder. For one thing, the author of the old "Tolkien Encyclopedia" suggested that they or their ancestors had been a civilized people once, all on their own, but that their fortunes had fallen low (Dunharrow perhaps being one of their settlements), something that the Rohirrim can't boast. Similarly, one of the Tolkien wiki pages (which I can no longer find) claims that they originated in Minhiriath, and area heavily deforested and colonized by the Numenoreans, forcing them into places like Dunland and Calenardhon . . . the altter of which the Gondorians and Rohirrim took away from them anyway, without giving them their old land back. If either of these is true to Tolkien's story, then they had a real reason to be hostile, and even their allying with the Easterlings from such an early point is understandable. (I have, however, other thoughts on that.)
I don't think Tolkien ever intended us to think the Rohirrim or anyone other of the Free Peoples were always in the right. He depicts the Númenoreans as over time becoming cruel tyrants who oppressed many of the peoples in the coastal areas of Middle-Earth. And some of their victims included the ancestors of the Dunlendings although I don't think they had actual nations, more like settlements here and there. Likewise, the Rohirrim at times did evil things although they never were on the side of Sauron.
The Rohirrim were descended from the Men of Rhovanion, who at one time had significant kingdoms in that land in the earlier 3rd Age and for the most part were allied with Gondor even then.
When you say "I don't think I'm alone in this opinion, either, as there must have been a reason why Peter Jackson left them out of the movies altogether," to whom are you referring?
@@istari0 Im pretty sure he was referring to the Drúedain/Woses with "I don't think I'm alone in this opinion, either, as there must have been a reason why Peter Jackson left them out of the movies altogether,'' as the Woses had been hunted for sport by the Rohirrim.
Helm may have been a "hero" to the rohirrim( can't stand ther rohirrim myslef, so maybe there's bias on my part), but the fact that he waited until Freca back was turned before shoving a spear in his back speaks volumes about him and the rohirrim as a whole, don't get me wrong there are a few good ones, but on the whole the rohirrim are a bunch of a-holes.
Men of the West pease respond to my messages.
Literally pick any other middle earth tale! What fantasy elements are there in this story? No elves, dwarves, not even hobbits, no eagles, ents, trolls, goblins... This could easily just be an episode of Vikings. Was excited to hear they were doing an animated movie because it opens the door to a lot of cool stuff but then when this was announced, i was bummed i dont understand their decision making its the same thing with the choice to make The Hunt for Gollum the next live action film.😮💨