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  • @jordan7518
    @jordan7518 Рік тому +1319

    Not sure if you do requests, but my daughter and I started watching your youtube channel during lockdown(covid in the UK). Her favorite was the ice cream sandwich from Steven universe. Thank you for the easy version😅
    Clara is now 4 years old and desperate for some fish biscuits from octonuats. She asked if Babish makes them.😁 I told her I would ask. Thanks for everything you do, it's great and we love it!

    • @jayleeds
      @jayleeds Рік тому +67

      That's very sweet and wholesome, thank you for this comment/story!

    • @DStrormer
      @DStrormer Рік тому +25

      My kiddo is starting to grow out of her Octonauts phase, but I would still love to see this. Strong second.

    • @serpentheim2394
      @serpentheim2394 Рік тому +14

      Just to let you know I think he already made an episode on it before

    • @fujicakes_
      @fujicakes_ Рік тому +8

      YESSSS! I loved octonauts as a child and this would be awesome!

    • @james.randorff
      @james.randorff Рік тому +8

      My kids would also flip for an Octonauts Fish Biscuits recipe. They love both Octonauts and Babish’s channel. 😊

  • @WisakJ
    @WisakJ Рік тому +2076

    Babish pronouncing worcestershire sauce differently every time makes my day.

    • @_korbo_
      @_korbo_ Рік тому +47

      gotta love the way he pronounces worst chester shire sauce

    • @nr289
      @nr289 Рік тому +28

      wooster-shur sauce, it's not difficult.

    • @SmolSir
      @SmolSir Рік тому +59

      @@nr289 it's a meme, how can you not understand...

    • @nr289
      @nr289 Рік тому +6

      @@SmolSir troll

    • @kironojr
      @kironojr Рік тому +24

      i read it wash your sister sauce cuz it's easy to remember 😂

  • @wipis59
    @wipis59 Рік тому +183

    I like the steamed then baked method. A gentle steam gets them cooked especially the skin. Then cooled till needed later (or second step immediatly). Then they can be blasted in a very hot oven (or fried) to crisp the skin. No need for baking soda or salting or overnight drying.

    • @michaeljanotti9055
      @michaeljanotti9055 Рік тому +31

      Alton Brown's method. Works great!

    • @jamesiyer4937
      @jamesiyer4937 Рік тому +4

      That sounds great. But I'm lazy, so I just chuck them in the oven, and eat them with rice and a nice asian sauce with soy sauce, garlic, ginger, chili (all grated with a microplane), and rice vinegar

    • @dietcthulhu2533
      @dietcthulhu2533 Рік тому +14

      @@jamesiyer4937How do you grate soy sauce w/ a microplane?
      /s

    • @jamesiyer4937
      @jamesiyer4937 Рік тому +4

      @@dietcthulhu2533 funny

    • @Proph3t3N
      @Proph3t3N Рік тому +6

      @@dietcthulhu2533 you grate the bottle duuh

  • @coronium97
    @coronium97 Рік тому +61

    the gochujang sauce is genius because it's almost like a master sauce in korea. jeyukbokkeum (stir fried pork) and dakkalbi (stir fried chicken) both use a variation of this sauce and it's absolutely delicious!

  • @GatorMan016
    @GatorMan016 Рік тому +248

    Babish, i've been watching your videos since you first started out and it's incredible how far you've come. I have used countless numbers of your recipes and hope to continue to do so. congrats on your success, it is well deserved!

  • @Balthun
    @Balthun Рік тому +25

    You know, I just realized watching this how FAR this channel has come. I started watching your stuff around the time the "Best Sandwich in the World" video came about. Overall you've rekindled a lifelong love of cooking and the craft of it, and I just wanted to let y'all know that. Thanks so much for all of it.

  • @iamcondescending
    @iamcondescending Рік тому +58

    I air fry wings. As for seasoning: if I'm just putting dry seasoning on, I just toss them in a steel bowl, if I'm putting BBQ sauce on I grab my wok, put it on high, and toss the wings and sauce in at the same time and toss them around till they're evenly coated and the sauce has caramelized.

    • @czyh
      @czyh Рік тому

      I air fry my wings too. But I usually just season them with smoked paprika, cilantro powder, black pepper, grated garlic, and salt.
      Its almost impossible to make bad wings on an air fryer lol, but after years of trying, seasoning them with these is a staple for sure.

    • @kpatterson14206
      @kpatterson14206 Рік тому +6

      An air fryer is just a small convection oven

    • @jedimindtrixr4kidz294
      @jedimindtrixr4kidz294 Рік тому

      @@kpatterson14206 Even more air circulation and direct heat in the air fryer vs convection oven

    • @Hartford1992
      @Hartford1992 4 місяці тому

      I've been doing a combination of the oven method and the air fryer. Usually, even following his instructions for oven wings, they don't come out very crispy at all. Tossing them in the air fryer for 10-ish minutes finishes them off perfectly.

  • @frisbee2424
    @frisbee2424 Рік тому +26

    Just got on my break on a long gruelling day at work in a kitchen and this is just what I needed to unwind. Thanks Babish

  • @HamerBoogie
    @HamerBoogie Рік тому +3

    Absolutely amazing. If anyone wants to take it to the next level, follow his oven recipe. After you take them out of the oven at 250, throw them on a HOT charcoal grill with offset heat, throw a chunk of wood over the coals and they will be perfectly crispy, tender, and smoky. I've never had better wings.

  • @DSingh4809
    @DSingh4809 Рік тому +21

    Tried the Botanist in Jamaica and I’m in love. So smooth, so delicious. Thanks, Babish!

  • @SuaveJoker
    @SuaveJoker Рік тому +42

    The bitter Irony is, I made 40 wings in the fryer yesterday and this video would’ve saved me making all the mistakes I made 🙃

  • @heidiramirez318
    @heidiramirez318 Рік тому +24

    Super happy for this episode my toddler is a huge fan of wings. Perfect timing for grilling for the 4th

  • @Jesteresque20
    @Jesteresque20 Рік тому +5

    If you keep the melted butter and sauce separated, you can roll the wings in the hot butter, then in the cooler sauce. Even a water-thin hot sauce will adhere to the wing every single time. I always tell people this method because I never see anyone talk about it on recipes.

  • @theputnamto3468
    @theputnamto3468 Рік тому +2

    wings single handedly gave me a use for my air fryer, its perfect to double fry, 20 minutes at 200 degrees, chill, then 400 degrees till crisp

  • @ShovelChef
    @ShovelChef Рік тому +3

    2:55 oven method is probably the one I'm going to try today. I do have the deep frying parts, but the cleanup seems worse, I'd have to buy more oil, and I want to test the crisping in the oven anyway. However 1:55 has critical prep that should not be ignored.
    We're goin in. 😎👍

  • @mplouse
    @mplouse Рік тому +15

    I've been using your double fry method since that video came out. I can't see any other method being better. We are actually making those tonight!

  • @thatonekree3301
    @thatonekree3301 Рік тому +54

    NOTE: When you're doing the baking method. MAKE SURE to buy aluminum-free baking powder. The aluminum gives a weird bitter taste to the wings. I tried the same recipe one with and one without and the ones that had aluminum were inedible.

    • @sencha__
      @sencha__ Рік тому +15

      Why tf there even aluminium in the baking powder
      Was it double acting or something?

    • @shelbyf3529
      @shelbyf3529 Рік тому +1

      How do you know its aluminum free? Does it say clearly on the packaging?

    • @glizzygulper8948
      @glizzygulper8948 Рік тому +1

      @@shelbyf3529 it seems the ones that are aluminum free say so, from what i can tell, as long as it doesnt have a clear "aluminum" element or compound in it, it's aluminum free. rumford and clabber girl (the 2 most common) seem to have aluminum in them
      edit: additionally most, if not all, double acting baking powder has aluminum in it, specifically sodium aluminum phosphate, as thats what gives it the "double acting" properties

    • @thatonekree3301
      @thatonekree3301 Рік тому +1

      @@shelbyf3529 I used rumford. It is double acting and doesn't have aluminum in any of the ingredients.

    • @enisra_bowman
      @enisra_bowman Рік тому

      @@sencha__ given that you spelled aluminium correct: i guess that's an weird american thing again, like with their weird colours and hormones

  • @2centschange
    @2centschange Рік тому +23

    Word of caution: Don't use wire brushes to clean barbeques. The wires do come out and can wreak havoc in the body. There are plenty of safer alternatives out there.

    • @RamblinWom4n
      @RamblinWom4n Рік тому +2

      I'm glad someone else mentioned this! The wires left on the grill can easily get stuck in the meat.

    • @jrzgrl73
      @jrzgrl73 Рік тому

      A potato cut side down or and onion the same way if you like that flavor! (You cannot taste the potato, 😉)

    • @Wafflehouse71
      @Wafflehouse71 Рік тому +1

      @@jrzgrl73what? Do you mean using a potato to clean the grill?

    • @Ghostbuster530
      @Ghostbuster530 Місяць тому

      @@RamblinWom4nthey do

  • @gabesolomon4887
    @gabesolomon4887 Рік тому +10

    I've done the baking method with dried out wings. If you set your oven at 350 they still crisp up but your oven doesn't smoke.

  • @Aaron-mi2ts
    @Aaron-mi2ts Рік тому +17

    Happy medium I've found for smaller batches of wings: they're GREAT in the air fryer and take less time than the oven

    • @McNasty43
      @McNasty43 Рік тому +3

      The end result is WAY better than the oven. You can do wings for 2 in less than 20 minutes.

    • @sheenpailovesu7841
      @sheenpailovesu7841 Рік тому +1

      Air Fried wings are some of the best wings I've ever had. They skin is crispy, the meat is tender and juicy, they're amazing!
      Kinda surprise to not see them mentioned at all! But I guess most people don't have an air fryer(you totally should btw)

  • @sionej.5505
    @sionej.5505 Рік тому +42

    I feel like I haven’t seen you in so long. Every video is Alvin, whom I love, but dang I missed this patented Babish feel ❤

  • @flintlockwood4741
    @flintlockwood4741 Рік тому +1

    I got my tonsils out a week ago and for some reason I have started watching every food related video I see even though I can’t eat

  • @medic7779
    @medic7779 4 місяці тому +1

    Red hot ketchup white vinegar lemon juice and butter together is the best wing sauce

  • @igotmyapplejuice7094
    @igotmyapplejuice7094 Рік тому +3

    Chicken wing episodes will always be my favorite

  • @ArielK1987
    @ArielK1987 Рік тому +4

    I said it before and I'll say is again. Chicken wings are the best bar food/ game day foods ever to be invested

  • @groooah
    @groooah Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love the spiciness of gochujang. It is just the right amount.

  • @ebonfortress
    @ebonfortress Рік тому +9

    My favorite method is Kenji’s double fried even though it’s rather time consuming and doesn’t work with large number of guests. Would certainly try a Korean sauce

    • @JJJohns
      @JJJohns Рік тому

      imho, kenji's double fry works iff you do all of the first round of frying ahead of time. though it's still time consuming.

    • @thekirbycrafter7229
      @thekirbycrafter7229 Рік тому

      ​@@JJJohnsyou did not just use the shorthand for if and only if XD

  • @tylerakerfeldt7220
    @tylerakerfeldt7220 Рік тому +2

    So what you’re saying in the first half is to just buy an at home deep fryer so to make it safe and that’s the best way to do it.

  • @ironcross8949
    @ironcross8949 Рік тому +5

    Love you videos man!!!! Watching your videos help me get threw my rough part of drinking to much😢 I happy to say I am sober now! Keep killing it.

  • @raindog98546
    @raindog98546 Рік тому +3

    Try this: Get Frank's Wing Sauce (not the normal Red Hot), use it as a marinade for a few hours, then grill the wings. The sauce works as a brine then caramelizes. You won't go back to drowning your wings in wet Frank's, I promise.

    • @Oregonduck09
      @Oregonduck09 Рік тому +3

      But I love my wings dripping in sauce

  • @kukukachoo419
    @kukukachoo419 Рік тому

    The best way to Grilling wings is toss dried wings in 1/2 of your favorite seasoning 1/2 corn starch, tiny whisked to combine, set aside for minimum 30 minutes, then grill, the seasoning/cornstarch creates this amazingly crunchy outside that can soak up sauce the with out falling apart

  • @KingdomofEvania100
    @KingdomofEvania100 11 місяців тому

    Actually used your wing trick and it worked really well. I did salt and baking powder and baked at 450 for 45 minutes. Then I tossed my wings and clarified butter and everything bagel seasoning. They were still crispy.

  • @Tirannaniel
    @Tirannaniel Рік тому +1

    To present us with ALFREDO WINGS without a subsequent sampling and description got me like 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

  • @Jasmine__135
    @Jasmine__135 Рік тому +1

    been here a long time, will be here for even longer
    Andrew is my comfort food

  • @kinger1793
    @kinger1793 Рік тому +2

    I bake my wings first, then fry them for about 3 minutes at high in the deep fryer for that nice crispy crunch and moist interior.

    • @BrodyYYC
      @BrodyYYC 11 місяців тому

      toss them in baking powder first for extra crispy skin.

  • @remedynoneofyourbusiness6
    @remedynoneofyourbusiness6 Рік тому

    Babish could make golf entertaining. Prove me wrong.

  • @vorletztesjahr
    @vorletztesjahr 9 місяців тому +1

    Timestamps for my viewing pleasure:
    1:12 cut that bird
    2:00 deep fry
    3:00 oven
    4:42 grill
    5:45 sauces

  • @plucas1
    @plucas1 Рік тому +4

    DO NOT DEEP FRY IN A SHALLOW, OVERFILLED PAN OVER AN OPEN FLAME like you see Babish doing.
    It's a wonder he hasn't been seriously burned or worse with a set-up like that. Make sure the level of the oil is at least 2-3 inches or more below the rim of the pan. Or better yet, get a dedicated deep-fryer unit with built-in safety features, like thermostats, electric heating, and an insulated-handle fryer basket. At least he isn't deep-frying with the handle sticking out from the stove... this time.
    Babish here says deep frying at home is 'scary.' But it doesn't have to be, if you do it right.

  • @dankaczor8965
    @dankaczor8965 Рік тому +1

    A lot of restaurants in Buffalo do their wings very different ways. Sometimes that used to cooking methods in a row in order to get a certain flavor. A common one is smoke then fry.

  • @makhi1868
    @makhi1868 Рік тому

    the face his own ad came on before the video started is crazy to me! that’s crazy work

  • @tacticaljunk1608
    @tacticaljunk1608 Рік тому

    These general overview crashcourses on how to prepare a single entree are invaluable.

  • @ajamstudio_animation
    @ajamstudio_animation Рік тому +1

    You should make the peanut chicken from phineas and ferb

  • @StraightNoChaser86
    @StraightNoChaser86 Рік тому

    Gotta love a cooking video that starts with a gin ad...

  • @scottdean185
    @scottdean185 Рік тому +8

    I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned but i highly recommend air frying almost fool proof and much quicker than an oven or grill i eat wings almost everyday out of it.

  • @angelogarcia2189
    @angelogarcia2189 Рік тому +2

    Am I the only one who likes the wing tips???

  • @komi8954
    @komi8954 Рік тому +6

    I do the same thing but I deep fry after the first oven trip. I do 325 for 15.

  • @SebastianGarcia-ky2qk
    @SebastianGarcia-ky2qk Рік тому +23

    Great, now I want to make wings for breakfast 🤤

  • @heartpalette
    @heartpalette Рік тому +3

    Andrew: Remember this is a batch recipe--
    Me: Single serving, understood.

  • @JAH93
    @JAH93 Рік тому +6

    I love air frying my wings now, though it gets just as smoky as oven baking for me.

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 Рік тому +5

    The Botanist gin is _very_ herbaceous. If you're into making herbaceous cocktails, it's great, but straight up, it's pretty intense.

  • @aaronbrandon2321
    @aaronbrandon2321 Рік тому

    been doing the low to high double bake for years best method by far.

  • @rubysimz
    @rubysimz Рік тому +220

    It feels criminal to be this early

    • @templargaming2095
      @templargaming2095 Рік тому +2

      Fr feels like Christmas came early

    • @noobez8o
      @noobez8o Рік тому +1

      the lack of comments are abit bizarre

    • @0.P.1.U.
      @0.P.1.U. Рік тому +1

      Real

    • @maciej4250
      @maciej4250 Рік тому +3

      Your premonition is correct, sir. You're under arrest!

    • @FilHor
      @FilHor Рік тому

      Jokes on you, it's 3 pm, where I live.

  • @Sillygoose009
    @Sillygoose009 Рік тому

    Babish is the only person I trust in this world

  • @brandongreene5674
    @brandongreene5674 Рік тому

    You can also fry them. Preferably in lard or tallow.. cause it’s much healthier than hydrogenated oils. Then put them into the oven at basically as high as you can get it for a few minutes to make them crispy. If they’re frozen at the start then boil the them, then fry them, then put them in oven lol

  • @atlantiswolf
    @atlantiswolf Рік тому +1

    Its funny, I was just thinking the other day that we haven't seen Babish make Buffalo sauce yet. Impeccable timing.

  • @asponk3243
    @asponk3243 Рік тому

    No way I got a babish ad for the Botanist before skipping and the video starting with a babish ad for the Botanist

  • @darklordofsword
    @darklordofsword Рік тому

    Personal favorite; add a teaspoon or two of yellow curry powder to the salt/baking powder mix when you dry brine.

  • @hampter6207
    @hampter6207 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for teaching me buffalo sauce. I've been using franks for about half a year now and have been eager to try making buffalo with it.

  • @curtiswaters7415
    @curtiswaters7415 Рік тому

    My wife used to brag about her grandfather's unique wing sauce recipe that she has never had anywhere else. I eventually got a written copy of the recipe. Franks hot sauce and butter, aka, buffalo sauce.

  • @noahshupenko
    @noahshupenko Рік тому +1

    Babish, thanks for the buffalo sauce recipe. I’m looking for one all summer. Also, the oven cooked wing variant is going to be a lifesaver for those of us who don’t like frying.

  • @vandread4643
    @vandread4643 Рік тому

    just the thumbnail is a masterpiece

  • @TheForeverRanger
    @TheForeverRanger Рік тому +8

    I know some people (looking at you Weismann) hate the air fryer but some of the best wings I have ever made have come out of one.

    • @MrOrmesher
      @MrOrmesher Рік тому +1

      110%

    • @ebonfortress
      @ebonfortress Рік тому

      I don’t understand the fascination with air fryers in US. It’s just a convection oven

  • @ulyssesmullins3181
    @ulyssesmullins3181 Рік тому

    And a long way with 10m subs. I remember watching you for your cartoon food recreations a couple years back. Stay going

  • @dopeyshelton
    @dopeyshelton Рік тому

    Baking soda AND corn starch is how you get them crispy Babby

  • @4xdblack
    @4xdblack Рік тому +1

    That gochujang sauce looks great

  • @Woodshadow
    @Woodshadow Рік тому

    Ask someone who worked in kitchens doing large batches you still have to watch the temperature. If you can wait a few between batches that is best. Definitely had to put things back in because they weren’t done before

  • @jackermis3104
    @jackermis3104 Рік тому +1

    Ah a wings episode. Just in time for the 4th.

  • @micromage6103
    @micromage6103 Рік тому

    Basically the Kenji method of baking wings. Got it.

  • @melvyshaw5642
    @melvyshaw5642 Рік тому

    @babish - if you put the wings on the rack, & then put the rack on top of a broiling pan, they won’t smoke up the kitchen when cooked in the oven.
    Figured that out when trying your Lemon Pepper Wet method from Atlanta.

  • @lateve6243
    @lateve6243 Рік тому

    Buffalo cracked the French secret for making everything better.

  • @pepekong
    @pepekong Рік тому

    This is the episode I've been waiting for since I subscribed.

  • @JimHealy
    @JimHealy Рік тому +1

    I'd like to see Babish try to tackle the breakfast burritos from Nimona next.

  • @MrCameronson
    @MrCameronson Рік тому

    I swirl my digi thermo too, nice to know I'm not the only one!

  • @cortpet403
    @cortpet403 Рік тому

    You should make a video of going to The Botanist distillery, and they can show the process of how they make their gin!

  • @cpljimmyneutron
    @cpljimmyneutron Рік тому +1

    While this is amazing to know, and I have personally been seasoning/flavoring my own chicken for years, but local grocer has a full service meat department where all spices/sauces are free. AKA plain wings and any of the dozen or so pre-seasoned wings are all the same price... it's nice.
    I can even pick out my own roast and tell them what spices I want, and they just do it.

  • @michieljuta976
    @michieljuta976 Рік тому

    Smoked then fried works great too

  • @insomnis_404
    @insomnis_404 Рік тому

    This is the earliest I've ever been to one of your videos, I feel special 😂

  • @JagannathMxO
    @JagannathMxO Рік тому

    Worchestertonfieldville sauce is my favorite

  • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
    @VinegarAndSaltedFries Рік тому

    I love Port Charlotte 10 year and SAC, and the classic laddie is incredible. More whiskey food

  • @markelleandgrant4406
    @markelleandgrant4406 Рік тому

    WINGS! It's about time, Bambiniii

  • @Nick_C1997
    @Nick_C1997 Рік тому +1

    Someone needs to make a compilation of Andrew mispronouncing Worcestershire Sauce

  • @sevynjensen6760
    @sevynjensen6760 Рік тому +8

    Wash-ya-sister-sauce

  • @Frogberto6
    @Frogberto6 Рік тому +1

    Banish should make an everything wing with all the sauces he can find like he did with the everything bagel

  • @charlx8979
    @charlx8979 Рік тому

    whole wings are the best! the tips are extra tasty. its fine if the tips are overcooked. the best wings are whole IMO. you arent eating it for the meat, it is a chicken flavour and sauce delivery vehicle.

  • @KairuHakubi
    @KairuHakubi Рік тому

    y'know I never understood the 'Bab sounds like Jon Benjamin' thing, he really doesn't. but maybe it's the fact that Bob, Archer, and Coach McGuirk would all totally appreciate being sponsored by fancy gin.

  • @captcharisma
    @captcharisma Рік тому +1

    Just started studying Botany so i think I’ll drink a whole bottle

  • @christtheguy6334
    @christtheguy6334 Рік тому

    love this channel, have been follow for 4 years now

  • @epiclasersharks1866
    @epiclasersharks1866 Рік тому

    i prefer just franks and butter for the sauce. It's EXACTLY what they do at most places i'm used to

  • @Callelle6251
    @Callelle6251 Рік тому

    *audible gasp* babish in a video

  • @MrPokemonisawesome
    @MrPokemonisawesome Рік тому +1

    The only think I drink from Islay is Whisky
    Also those whole wings look huge, the ones you get here in Scotland arewnt nearly as big and its so much easier to toss them in seasoned flour , drizzle with beg oil and shove in the oven lol

    • @BrodyYYC
      @BrodyYYC 11 місяців тому

      Islay is my favourite. I love the smoke. Oh and try baking soda instead of flour if you like extra crispy wings.

  • @Dawsinderu
    @Dawsinderu Рік тому +1

    Great gin to make drinks with also gunpowder Irish gin is also great

  • @thedispenser8301
    @thedispenser8301 Рік тому

    Basics with babish helpin' me survive college

  • @hellm0
    @hellm0 Рік тому +1

    Y'all are missing out not having honey garlic sauce 😤 Here in my half of Canada it's the most popular flavour for wings and ribs

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 Рік тому +2

    Watching gin makes me remorse that I’m on my alcohol purge.
    Only slightly though.

  • @littlekittyblack
    @littlekittyblack Рік тому +3

    I would love to see you do the funky fritters from scooby doo. There's a lot of food from scooby doo you can do, but these are a spicy hot fritter, That needs its own soda just to calm your mouth and your stomach.

  • @sarahedwards2
    @sarahedwards2 Рік тому

    I live about an hour and a half west of Buffalo on the western tip of Lake Ontario, and my dad was once mistaken for being from Buffalo while on a business trip!

  • @leeprice2849
    @leeprice2849 Рік тому

    Electric deep-fryer is my go to.
    Just use it outside.

  • @adatzotschew1625
    @adatzotschew1625 Рік тому +2

    Can you send please make a “basics with babish: stuffed grape leaves”?

  • @bobwear123
    @bobwear123 Рік тому

    Did you happen to call the oven a baking box or am I hearing things? Baking box, the babish children's cooking show. It's babish, cooking, in a box. The kids will love it 😂

  • @johnturnerjr7221
    @johnturnerjr7221 Рік тому

    Now I know what I'm doing wrong with my wings. I couldn't get them crispy enough, but now, I can!