OMG yes. I've recently realized all my toxic shame, OCD, and pathological guilt stem from my weirdo Christian (not JW or Mormon) upbringing. It's psychological abuse to do this to a child, and it can affect them into adulthood. Thanks for sharing, hope you're doing better 💕
@rachelle2032 exactly! The jw organization teaches the people to be scared of the nom witnesses, but the Mormon at least portray them as normal as most people are. Fun thing, while I was suffering from the injustices I had to deal from the organization, I became friends with a Mormon lo
I have to be honest, while it is still nasty religious propaganda, I find these Mormon cartoons much more life-like and believable than the JW ones, where everyone is just a plastic lifeless cutout. These characters actually sounds like real people with emotions.
@@Pigismalexactly. I agree, the characters are way more realistic, but that’s even worse because these are actual questions that Mormon children will ask themselves. And the video, disguised as a way to help them, explains to them that they just need to stop thinking and just follow. This is the purest form of brainwashing and child indoctrination.
I have a theory that JW animators are secretly sabotaging it because they think it's too much of a toxic ass bullshit. I mean, first: JW can't go to universities, it's even an issue on one of their episodes, not having a career and all, that cartoon has actually good quality animation, I mean, on technical level, it's well made. None who never went to animation college or has extensive work on animation even as a self developed (and it takes a lot of time and resources that they're forbbiden to spend) would be able to do that. I mean, good luck on finding a huge group of capable JW animators to work good frequency released episodes. Second: Again, this animation is good quality, specially in a some details like, posing, body language, mood settings and such. There are many scenes where their parents are represented as quite displeasing figures, the kids are constantly portrayed as always repressed and miserable, specially Sophia. They pretty much know what they are doing. All that excluding the obvious problematic things on their scripts themselves, like, the whole story and all, how Sophia is so intelligent and interested in science and dreams about college, studying and having an amazing career at such young age and she just have to give up already and throw all her dreams in the trash because of this hellish cult, about how both those kids are being taught to accept that they'll be deprived from normal experiences kids should have at their ages like having friends around their age, playing with them and such. I'm not actually putting this in the list because I can't assume how much of control they have on that, the animation itself, they rule it. If it wasn't for how problematic and sad to watch Sophia and Caleb is, and there's semiotic help on that, JW wouldn't be considered half as bad as it is seem now.
i don't know if that's a good thing tbh. the closer to real humans they feel, the more you sympathize. the more you sympathize, the easier you are to convince...
I was forced to be a Mormon by my mom. My dad took my little sister and I out of the church after he saw how we were treated. That was 12 years ago and I was 12.
I am a ex Mormon from California. As a young adult I was a Hippie who traveled around the US going to concerts and I was in a truck that broke down in Utah on my way to Denver CO. The guy who owned the truck started acting angry and was blaming me and my bestie. My best friend who was also a ex-Mormon and I started to get scared so we stuck out our thumbs. A nice Mormon guy picked us up and drove us the whole way to Denver. He wouldn’t accept any money and wasn’t creepy or even pushy about preying with us.
I also live in utah but my parents definitely won't let me leave, but the second I turn 18 I'm RUNNING. And when they make me take seminary in high-school, I'm just skipping class 🤷
As an Ex Mormon I really disliked Sunday. My memory of church was that is was this boring place where the AC was too cold and you sat around for 3 hours hearing the same boring indoctrination you had already heard a million times. The only food I was allowed to have was a piece of mint chewing gum. Now whenever I think of church I physically feel the sensation of being cold, hungry and bored. The silver lining however is that one day my best friend and I got fed up that nonsense. So made a copy of the key to the attic which we had access to when we where helping setup for an event. In most Mormon churches the attic is a large secluded space where equipment is stored. While I was up there I noticed my church was storing a bunch of old CRT tv's that had recent been replaced by LCD's. So every Sunday after that instead of going to our Sunday "classes" we hooked up my Xbox 360 to one of the CRT's and played Halo. The best part is since the ceiling are drop down we could listen for a few minutes to our classes so could tell our parents we were in class and give a small summary of what we "Learned". I even still have some photos we took of the mancave we turned that attic into lol.
Not being allowed to eat is horrendous. They didn’t have a room in the back where you could hear the meeting without distracting other members of the congregation with the sound of your eating? 🤢🤮
@@Bob-b7x6v honestly. im not really into that religious stuff anymore, but praying is okay, i guess. the problem is when it becomes a MUST. i just dont see the point of sitting there for an entire hour, when right after i get home, im expected to go to bed.
Sounds like he’s becoming clinically depressed bc of his religion tbh, can’t enjoy normal activities, it’s hard to have fun talking to his peers, doesn’t want to go out bc of guilt, like cmon he’s literally becoming depressed it’s so dang sad
What’s an introvert???? You’re being sensitive. Giving a child restrictions is not something that can cause A CHILD depression. You are over reacting and need to stop looking for reasons to hate
@@Ghostie_2a child definitely can become depressed from being isolated from their peers and activities they want to do lmao, isn't that common sense that not doing fun things good for development is gonna mess them up
yes I understand that entirely. As someone who grew up completely isolated because of issues out of my own control, my parents, and someone who has had severe depression, I do understand that you can become depressed. What I'm saying, is that the main comment is mocking people like myself who has actually been through it. Feeling guilty or having a one time sad experience like the kid is NOT depression. I am also Mormon and I can tell you now, missing out on birthdays/ not hanging out with other kids on Sunday had no effect on me and other kids I knew from church. The video is definitely over the top because q child wouldn't feel like that, but you need to be over the top to actually teach something. You will not get depression from feeling a one time guilt, and you definitely won't when you ski out on hanging with friends one day of the week. Sorry that my comment before left out a lot of context on this, but I honestly didn't think anyone would read it.@@hellohaveagoodday
I hate how these religious cartoons guilt trips kids against normal and expected child behavior.. Seriously, this is normal child behavior, what kid would pick church over a party? A party with a pool? Also, the fact that this family has a pool full of green sludge that burns leaves on contact shows that the parents are irresponsible and neglectful. Religions need to learn that kids aren't small adults. I mean, I'm sure God (or whatever his name is) is more likely to forgive a child for breaking his rules since they're young and still learning.
Honestly that’s why I love my current church. I’ve been to mormon and catholic churches as a kid and it was awful. My current one is nondenominational and I volunteer in the kids area. Honestly it’s cool seeing kids there genuinely excited to go there. It’s honestly just a daycare or preschool with crafts that happen to be jesus themed. That’s all churches should do for kids, create a welcoming and accepting environment for them. Not teach them they have to follow this book of thousands of rules. Anyone who’s done work in an elementary school or preschool, *knows* kids don’t follow strict rules half the time.
@@amitystan The denomination is literally called “nondenominational” and the big focus of my specific church is faith through action, getting out and serving our community regardless of belief. Essentially yes, we don’t really care what you believe. You are welcome regardless of if the bible agrees with it. Isolating communities like the lgbtq and pro life communities aren’t going to do anything. Welcoming them and helping them in their times of need show the love of christ. Dividing ourselves based on personal and trivial things like gender identity or abortion opinions only helps the movement of satan. It entirely goes against the “welcoming of the sick” that Jesus taught. It’s like a hospital refusing a cancer patient for fear of the cancer spreading to others. Stupid and hypocritical.
@@amitystan The name is literally “nondenominational” and my church has a bigger focus on going out into the community and serving the community ourselves. We welcome everyone regardless of belief just like Jesus did, in “welcoming the sick.” If we turn people away from the church because they’re gay, or because they support abortion, it’s the philosophical equivalent of a hospital banning cancer students(edit: meant patients) to prevent the spread of cancer. Anyone and everyone can get sick with cancer, regardless of health or exposure to it, and the hospital itself is employed to HELP those people in their times of need, not turn them away.
Not to say is not messed up and wrong to impose that on a kid, but Miguel was waaaay more adjusted than either Caleb or Sophia, as is his family, frankly, I am surprised that they even allowed him the choice to go or not, he was still feeling guilty and they encouraged him not to go, to they didn't forced him to stay either. For what we saw, he didn't bombed his social life and became a outcast like Caleb and Sophia, nor is seen as the weird religious cult kid
Yeah. It's a little bit much, but I honestly didn't have a problem with this one. Caleb and Sofia was bad. This is just eh. Not good, certainly. But not bad
In my experience growing up Mormon, I was only encouraged to partake in church activities, never shamed or treated negatively about my choices. I was only ever forced by my parents to go to Sunday school when I was too young to be left alone at home.
@@TheLalacream FELT. maybe I'm biased, but i feel like the mormon church doesn't fuck up kids as bad as the JW's do😂even tho i'm not active as an adult and i'm questioning a lot of things, i can still say i had a really good childhood and teenagehood both in and out of church stuff. course i also just have great parents who were pretty chill
@TheLalacream I wish my parents did (or do) that. I have all the reasons in the world why it's bad for me to go; lack of belief, meltdowns from screaming kids in the meetings due to my high functioning autism, social anxiety that makes it hard to be around crowds and people I dont know, adhd that makes it hard to stay in one place doing nothing but listening to things I don't believe or care about, ptsd from years of memories of being forced into meetings (my mom would snap at us to make us be quiet, and I still get scared whenever I hear someone snap, even not directed at me). Not to mention that I'm going to be eighteen in about six months... and they still won't let me stay home from church. Definitely going to go low-no contact with them as soon as I can move out, because this is ridiculous.
@@instantdoodles4828 I felt the same way. But I'm from the Catholic, I still remember my mom forcing me literal everything and I found out she's emotionally narcissistically abusive. At that point, I wouldn't be here and committed suicide instead 💀
I used to be super religious and went to therapy for depression. The psychiatrist literally put me on anti psychotics for saying stuff like "God wants me..." or "my mission..." sigh... That was my eye opener.
I had a friend put on antipsychotics for a very similar reason. Only he wasn't raised religious _at all_ - he suddenly found it of his own volition during his twenties (we actually both met in a mental health service of all places). My man claimed all organised monotheistic religions were corrupt (hardly a stretch lol) and he had the learned the "true" interpretation of the Bible - which he'd gleaned direct through what (I believe) were his diagnosed episodes of psychosis. He went way off the edge with it all eventually though and I kinda lost contact with him. He was chill af, but we'd get drunk/stoned together and he'd start spouting conspiracy theories and try convincing me to let him baptise me in the sink. One time I was drunk enough to let him. Joke's on him though - I was already baptised Catholic as a child (something I only found out like last year off my mom rofl) 😅
lol anti psychotics don’t remove religious beliefs or the voice of God 😂 I take them too for different reasons and my religious beliefs are still in tact. Gods voice isn’t audible. It’s a thought or a feeling. It’s completely different from schizophrenia.
Just for that? Bro that’s messed up. I understand religious scrupulosity (I’ve had it too) so that kind of talk can definitely be to excess, but for some people that type of vernacular is quite normal. Well, we can debate about whether or not it’s healthy, but it’s certainly not /psychotic/ all by itself.
I can guarantee God would not give two shits if a kid went to a pool on a Sunday. I'm not really all that religious anymore but I can tell you that my family would often make plans for after church since everyone was usually free on Sunday. In fact, the only rule for Sunday was that is was the day of rest, which means that it was the day that everyone could relax and not do chores or work. While Saturday was the opposite, it was the day that everyone got their chores finished.
As a mormon, yeah, you’re right. It’s more about the principle of keeping the sabbath day holy, as they’re trying to get us to grow up with at least a bit of devotion to God as we so quickly get consumed by school and such that sometimes it’s hard to remember religion. I do have several memories similar to that of this kid but nothing as tragic as the idea of missing ‘Bridget’s LEGENDARY party.’ Top ten tragedies of the century I tell you
It is absolutely INSANE to me how they fully represent the kids’ internal suffering, yet somehow come up with a phrase or speech to keep them indoctrinated. They are fully aware of what precisely any child goes through and how bad they feel, and they work SO hard to make them feel like “this is how you’re supposed to feel, just push it down and keep loving God”.
It's because of the desire to control others. Invalidating the feelings of a child, let alone not treating them with the respect, unconditional love and care they need and deserve is super gross. Fanaticism never considers the feelings of the people they want to control. Because the more people follow their gospel, the more powerful they feel. It's always been about power.
The point is to gain total control over the members and also remove individuality so the cult is more important than the individual. Communist do the same thing. It's well-known methods of control. You would be surprised to know despite being opposite in appearance, how similar religion and Communist are.
I will say this: the reason they feel that this suffering isn’t bad is because they see it as a “lesson”. They think that the kid’s decision is bad, and that they will come to that realization on their own. And when they reach that “realization” due to indoctrinated guilt, the parents think that that guilt is proof that what the kid was doing is bad. An incredibly vicious cycle; one that isn’t easily broken. Plus it makes them less likely to question the church’s teachings (I saw it work for my child, how could it be wrong?)
I'm an ex-Mormon and we had birthday parties on Sundays before and virtually almost all our friends were also LDS as well and they would come over for birthday parties on a Sunday. It's up to personal belief, judgment, and choices on what is and isn’t considered appropriate for the sabbath outside of the general rules of attending church, no spending money/shopping, and no working (that one is lenient as some people have no choice). It’s highly encouraged that you do peaceful activities and scripture study and stuff; also Sunday being a day of rest so like restful activities, I guess. But many Mormons hang out before and/or after church and do activities with their friends and families and have family get togethers or parties or have birthday parties with friends and family. It’s quite common at least where I grew up in Utah 🤷♂. It’s usually a more lowkey thing on a Sunday though. The girl's birthday party in the video was a more highkey event (which is kind of pushing it for a Sunday for Mormons) I’m assuming that the party being highkey and the girl being a non-member the family deemed that it wasn’t a sabbath day appropriate activity for them thus not wanting him to go.
My mom is a christian, she used to take me to church since I was a kid, but she never pushed me to do anything. Even when I said I didn't wanted to go anymore when I was 11 or 12 she didn't forced anything. A few years later, I started to read the Bible myself and really study it. Now, I actually am going to the church by myself, and I am loving each moment of that ❤^^
This is truly the way to go. I love my parents with all my heart and I won’t deny that their love for the church inspired me to seek God when I grew up, but it was ultimately my choice. They were also vehement in expressing that they would love and embrace me no matter what decision I make or what path I went down on. Nowadays, my dad trusts me enough to talk to me when HE is having a faith crisis. He doesn’t believe a lot of what he once did and even apologized for “dragging” me into it. What an amazing person. I will never stop bragging about my imperfect (by church standards) but wonderful parents.
I grew up Mormon- I still have a lot of religious trauma. I constantly felt guilt as a kid. I remember I had to share my 6th birthday with my brothers Baptism celebration.
I'm currently Ormond, and aw man, I'm sorry about that. Nobody likes sharing birthdays, even if it's for a baptism. Even though you were 6 i still feel bad that you had to share your birthday
I had to share my 5th birthday with my brother’s baptism. Every year I shared a birthday party with him. But of course I had my own party with friends when I turned 8 and got baptised myself. It’s just because our birthdays are three days apart and it would be too much money for two parties. I don’t see what’s wrong with that?? And what does that have to do with the LDS church?
I've been out of the church for over a decade and I only gradually started realising that some of what I experienced was traumatic. I used to believe that fellow exMos talking about their traumatic experiences in the church were just being over dramatic. My experience as a Mormon was mostly a good one. I simply stopped believing and gradually left. None of the trauma I experienced compares to the trauma of someone like a r*pe survivor, but it was traumatic, albeit mild, none the less. I've only recently allowed myself to feel empathy to my younger self for what I a forced to go through. I still occasionally have nightmares about being stuck on my mission or being caught masturabing so it does seem to bubble up still, but I've felt so much freer and happy since I left.
Yeah, the rest of my family is Mormon,p (I left but good lord I wouldn’t tell them) and I just feel so bad going to my cousins 8th birthdays, it’s always a baptism birthday and the day is just about that
Ex-Mormon myself as well (Also living in Utah) It's like a constant reminder of the guilt I felt, when I'd think of anything slightly "unholy" by Mormon standards, when I'm surrounded by mormons
I mean sometimes there’s even teens that go through their Baptism, Communion, and Conformation at one mass. I believe it’s called the Easter Vigil. Been to the one my church hosted. It’s actually pretty cool!
Those swimming rules are for girls camp rules, not for just swimming but as an ex Mormon I can say that you aren’t really “allowed” to go anywhere but church on Sunday, you can still do it though
Yeah I could tell it was for girl's camp. I don't think there's any rules against swimming especially if it's a pool in your own backyard, it's more about going out and attending a party. which my parents let me do all the time anyway as a kid in the mormon church, but they were chill😂
Yeah the rules were for camp, other than the girls have to wear a one piece swimsuit that one applies to anywhere even if you wear a rash guard over just a normal swimsuit
This is such a dumb comment to make but the animators for these cartoons are really into My Little Pony. The horse drawing the carriage at 13:41 has Pinkie Pie's EXACT hair, not just a pink curly mane and tail but her exact line art design for it. And then again at 20:13, that sound that the stuffed animals make when the girl lays on them is used all the time in MLP, usually when a pony smiles. The fandom has dubbed it the "pony squee". It's a stock sound, so they aren't "stealing" it per se, but as a MLP fan myself I instantly recognized it. *points at the animators* I know what you are...
@@Scarletdevilish Any Christian denomination can be considered fandom when you think about it. They theory craft and fight over what is considered cannon. With Mormons its "What if Jesus went to Americaa?!?!11"
I grew up Mormon (current a gay and trans atheist). Honestly, it ruined my life. I got baptized at either eight or ten I think. But I remember PRAYING for god to ‘fix’ me when I realized I was queer. It made my health worsen by a lot. I remember when my first dog died I had literally HALLUCINATED and thought I saw him after he died, I told people and church and they told me it was a vision from god to show me he was okay in heaven. Yet no one game a damn an eight year old was hallucinating about dead creatures. I honestly never understood any of the religious stuff, but waking up early every Sunday and forced to go to church for around 3-4 hours was horrid. I was eight and I was supposed to fast on Sundays. EIGHT! I was lucky my grandma gave me pretzels to eat during the singing section. I also remember it being VERY racist. We were coloring these little Jesus pictures and this one kid made Jesus black, of course, I was sheltered due to the church and didn’t care much but I could hear the disdain in the adults voice and how hesitant they were to tell another kid that they could draw Jesus to be whatever skin color they wanted. But the church was overrun with white people to say the least. I was also scared of saying ‘hell’ when forced to read the Book of Mormon. I was scared to say one word, because I thought I was scared I would go to hell if I said it because it was a ‘bad word’. I’m so glad my grandma stopped taking me at around nine. If I stayed any longer I would’ve been a completely different person, and likely not in a good way.
@@Suunalt ohhh wow so original. I am a liberal, so? You act like it’s an insult. You completely ignored the purpose of my comment in point out how crappy the churches are, or at least how the one I went to was.
Kind of a long rant, but im an ex mormon. Just left the church a few years ago. And i have to say, teens are shamed way more than kids when you're a mormon. Youre not allowed to date until you're 16, and no sex until after marriage. But if you weren't interested in either sex or dating, you were treated like a freak. I still remember vividly having a crush on a guy at 15, and at a party we went outside to hang out (nothing bad, literally just nerding out and talking). The bishop ended up catching us, and i will never forget when he firmly put a hand on my shoulder and told me "You shouldnt be dating at your age. You should probably repent and reread the bible. You obviously haven't been studying". I was so humiliated and i hadnt even done anything wrong. Also for some reason, mormons hate introverts. I used to get yelled at during activities when i just wanted to sit in the corner and read
I agree with the part saying teens are being shamed more than kids. Fr I felt guilty a lot of the time for having any sexual desires and especially for having sex before getting married. I also got pregnant and yes we did use protection, but I legitimately remember when I managed to become temple worthy I felt wayyy better. I believe that the bishop was mostly concerned for me though since I was pregnant. I’m not sure how different it would be if I just broke the law of chastity and didn’t get pregnant though. I truly did feel much happier after completely repenting and getting my temple recommend. Getting my patriarchal blessing really has helped me as well. I’m just telling you my experience here and I promise I’m not trying to get you back in the church your choice is your choice we all have agency.
I'm not a mormon but I was shamed for being an introvert in boyscouts. I unfortunately think that's a lot of adults, religion aside. I was weird and being a problem for wanting to read instead of playing games or singing with the group, which I just never enjoyed all that much.
It was so annoying and distressing to grow up as an evangelical autistic kid. The cultists try to be extra touchy-feely to bring people in, but this kind of behavior usually just repulses me so much i can even call it disgust. A lot of eye contact, comically large smiles and loud overly cheery voices, and all the damn hugs and holding hands and loud praying, singing, chanting, and pastors thinking anyone will only gaf about what they say if they're screaming at the top of their lungs, and all the "Don't you want to go to sunday's school to see your little friends, your brothers and sisters? 😃😃😃". Church is ironically like hell on earth.
Ex-mormon here! The Sabbath day short was kind of weird for me, too. The "keeping the sabbath day holy" rules have always been loose and confusing. Like, my family never went shopping or watched non-religious movies on sundays, but we did watch America's Funniest Home Videos on sundays. I think going to a friend's birthday party would be just fine?? I'm not sure tho, it's honestly different for every family. I remember watching the third short with some mormon missionaries while I was on my way out of the church. I asked them how I'm supposed to know the difference between my own feelings and the Holy Ghost, so they showed me the video. I actually found it very helpful. I felt peace when I accepted my transgeender friend, and I didn't feel peace when I read the racist stuff in the Book of Mormon. I felt peace about leaving mormonism.
I would bet the church would prefer the stricter interpretation of Sabbath, but I'm an ExJW so I can only assume. I know from a JW perspective that's how it would work even if it's not explicitly spelled out. For instance JWs weren't really supposed to listen to heavy metal, they did lots of articles on how bad it was but never specifically forbade it. They left it as a "conscience matter," but it was obvious what they wanted. I ignored what they wanted and grew up listening to old school thrash metal in the late 80s and early 90s. It was one of the few things my parents didn't get fanatical about so I took advantage of that.
I grew up SDA and that similar to how many Adventists keep the Sabbath, though some are a bit liberal with it and are fine with doing things like going out to restaurants after the mid-day service. My family was semi-strict on most occasions but would allow me to do non-religious activities if we were away from home visiting non Adventist family members.
@@jjayjae_ Funny how you mention the sabbath! Does anyone in your group keep the Sabbath year? One year out of every seven is for rest! How about the Passover Sabbath?
@@timmy18135 They essentially believed that the requirement to keep any ceremonial sabbath outside of the 7th day Sabbath in the 4th commandment was nullified by the crucifixion.
Birthday parties would generally be viewed as fine on sundays if they were for your family members, and you didn't do much more than eat cake and open presents, and maybe watch a movie.
I met this one light-skinned Cherokee woman who grew up Mormon. Her skin wasn't naturally light, she was so obsessed with skin lightening products in her teen years because of the religion. The church wasn't overtly white supremacist but it's strongly implied in many ways that white is better. Many dark skinned children growing up Mormon have this same dysphoria about themselves. And she now needs to always avoid sunlight because of the damage.
One thing I will say, I do appreciate this cartoons approach to it. Miguel and Bridget have a nice little conversation around the 12:20 mark and it sent me straight back to childhood. "Next year, my birthdays NOT on a Sunday!" We LOVE a supportive friend who honors their friends comfort. I do like that a lot.
I had a Muslim friend invite me to her birthday party on a Sunday and I had to tell her I couldn’t go because I was Mormon, she didn’t have a lot of friends so it made her feel bad. I really regret not going she was a great friend
I NOTICED THAT!!!!! Looking closely, the mane and tail are ripped STRAIGHT from the cartoon. Same identical swirls in the tail, same curve at the tip of her mane (I would know😭)
The whole pretending to be Jews thing in religions from early mid nineteenth century USA seems like mocking Jews. They don't mean it that way, but it's cringy as heck.
It blew my mind that JW's can't have b-days. Or that Mormons aren't supposed to do anything on sunday. As a Christian, I couldn't wrap my head around it. Now I understand it and am so glad I'm Christian.
As far as I know, the only rule for Sunday is that it's a day of rest in Christianity. So my family never saw issues with doing things on Sunday since my mom's version of resting was cleaning and mine was watching cartoons. We still went to church on those days, but it wasn't forced if someone felt ill or wanted to do something else. Like, if I didn't feel like being near people, I could just stay home on Sunday and watch Veggie Tales instead and just watch the recorded sermon later if I felt like it.
As a former Catholic, I was baptized as an infant! Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglicans, Lutherans, Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Moravians, and United Protestants do infant baptism as well. In Catholicism, baptizing infants is based off the idea that babies are born with original sin from the moment of conception, and thus they need baptism to cleanse them to become adopted children of God. Though one isn't required to be an infant to be baptized in Catholicism as there is no age limit! And not every denomination does baptism the same way with dunking. In Catholicism, baptism is also valid when it is administered by affusion or pouring water over the head. Sprinkling is also valid. And the LDS Church aren't the only Christians that observe Sabbath, many other Christians do whether it's on Saturday or a Sunday! And blue laws have remained a thing in different places in the US for Sundays, like Bergen County, NJ not allowing stores to sell electronics, clothing, and furniture on Sundays...in a county where NJ's major malls are. Bergen County's blue law is moreso a state law that all other counties have opted out of. In Mandaeism (which is its own ethnoreligion but they follow John the Baptist), they practice frequent full immersion baptism (or masbuta) to connect to the World of Light and for forgiveness. The name "Mandaean" comes from the Mandaic word manda, meaning "to have knowledge". The Classical Mandaic language is an Eastern Aramaic variety! The Mandaeans are originally from the southern Levant region but later migrated to the Mesopotamian marshes of what's now Iraq, though the majority have since left Iraq because of the Iraq War. They are among the earliest religious groups to practice baptism, and they were also among the earliest adherents of Gnosticism!
Ex Mormon here. It's believed that age 8 is when a child can start understanding right from wrong. I was born and raised into the religion but baptized at 10 yrs old, as i wasn't really forced or pressured into it. Before my younger sister (8 yrs) and I were baptized, we would have meetings with missionaries who taught us what a baptism is and the significance of it. So we weren't thrown into it blind, and we had to give consent to it too. The church in my area was pretty chill, like during the summer when the young women/men groups (kids aged 12 - 18) were invited to one of the Elders' lake house to swim and water tube. And i never felt shamed or guilt triped when i started going to church less and less. I could have just been lucky enough to have been raised in an area that had a good Mormon church.
@@bluemurloc5896Critical thinking doesn't "start developing" at age 15 and older. That's some big fat BS right there. It isn't about "critical thinking" it is about the developmental stage of the child and the fact that they don't have enough life experience or physical/mental/emotional maturity to make big decisions that they don't know enough about and how it's going to effect their life. You clearly have no idea wtf you're talking about.
I'd say for me at least not getting baptized at 8 was never an option. They always said that it's a choice, but in the end if you didn't do it, everybody would have been worried and I felt like it would be socially unacceptable not to get baptized even though I didn't really believe in it.
@@bluemurloc5896 what the hell are you even talking about? When you’re 15 you barely have any knowledge and are very immature so how is critical thinking start at 15? There’s nothing wrong with exposing your child to religion at 15 or below how come evolution and atheism is acceptable by religion isn’t? You are definitely one of those atheist that just doesn’t like religion and is very close minded I can tell.😂
Which is worse, being baptized at birth or being baptized at 8? I think 8 is worse because if you are baptized at birth, you can’t remember it and you obviously didn’t consent.
I was baptized at birth...yet I did my first Communion till I was like 10, I personally didn't have any issues as I grew up as a normal kid and even had cake, candies, and presents after the celebration (as I was a ten-year-old, it was like a little birthday, I remember the day fondly to be honest), so...and yeah, I have no memory of my baptized, only photos...
@@rachelmariecaberapacheco7942it's odd to me that a huge religious experience and practice that is said to physically and mentally change a person for life (and get a new identity depending on religion), is done to literally babies and treated like a little kid birthday party.
@@ClownHoundII I can understand, I think this idea of baptize babies was a way to introduce a new member into the comunity, I mean...I think Jews do something similar with the circumcision and later on the Bar Mitzvah with boys
4:29 To answer your question: yes, mormons can't do much of anything on a Sunday (especially things like birthday parties, sports games, shopping of ANY kind, etc.) There are plenty of stories of people who have refused hanging out with friends or participating in sports championships ONLY BECAUSE it was a Sunday. And unlike this cartoon, any mormon parents would have put their foot down and not allow the kid to go. 21:27 EXACTLY! You hit the nail right on the head I'm an ex-mormon who watches your videos to get some perspective from the exjw side, so it was great to see something like this!
I'm pretty sure that god to muslims is the same as jews, christains, and mormons they just think differently about how we worship them but for other religions I don't know. edit: except jews don't think jesus is a god.
just because it was that way for you doesn't mean it was that way for all lds people, most parents don't "put the foot down" actually most lds parents I've grown up around (about 16) let their children date before 16, swim and go to parties on Sunday, even play video games on Sunday I think some of those things don't necessarily invite the spirit. But I am not the judge and that's what the churches standard is as well
Mormon here. It really depends on the parents. We try to use Sunday as a rest day and we try to keep the spirit on that day. If I had an invitation for a birthday party on a Sunday they would let me. But everyone’s experience is different. Where I live, the church is pretty chill.
As someone who wasn’t raised with any religion, I can confirm it’s wild to hear your friends talk about religious stuff. Once (when ai was like 7 or 8) told this kid I’ve never been to church, and he was so genuinely shocked. He was like, “GHASP you have to tell your parents to take you to church!!” I was just like, nah I’m good dude. It was always crazy to me how people believed that stuff. And I believed I was a Harry Potter style witch, soo that’s saying something
Same! Im an athiest and sometime when I was 6-8 the first time I learned about religion as a concept was when a christian friend begin explaining heaven and hell to me by showing me a short cartoon. My first reaction was to tell her cartoons arent real so she didnt have to worry about it 😭😂
i had the opposite reaction 😭 a kid told me they didnt believe in god/didnt go to sunday church and i was like “wait… you can do that?” and i basically decided i wasnt religious anymore 😭 i was like 7 or 8 i think?
Upon learning about religion I took the completely normal path of pushing it to the side to study way to much history. And after studying both I can confirm history is still more interesting.
I kinda like this Sophia, so much potential to outgrow this religion... Edit: disregard everything I said in part two. They don't make the characters consistent, do they? Edit again: yeah, Sophia still has some potential...
Don't fall for it and convert. You're not just guilt tripped into keeping Sunday Sabbath, you're also guilt tripped into lots of other meetings every single day of the week. Stay VERY far away. Fuck the mormon church I wish I could get those years of my childhood back.
at 14:16 I just realized that the horse's mane and tail is straight up traced from Pinkie Pie's, I compared the photos, and, yep, it's most *definitely* traced. :/
Yeah. It's actually kind of off putting. Like JWs discourage high paying jobs and college, yet they in put a lot more money and know how to do their cartoon. Based on appearance that is. I'm no expert. I mean if the 2d looks good there's nothing wrong with it, but I've seen better animation than this done by novices on the Internet just for kicks.
Yeah, but the Mormans have a freakin school... can't they get some BYU students to make something better than this. I mean Studio C is often funny and well made after all (yes, even outside of Scott Sterling, I used to work at a Utah school, don't @ me). Don't they have any animators who can work on this?
Hey ex-mormon here. I did not want to be baptized- at all. But the social pressure (I lived in Utah at the time) and the overwhelming guilt is to much to handle. 8 is not a good age to chose. Its a good age to put so much pressure on it's almost importable not do do it.
I didnt feel it as pressure as much as it was "its just what you do when you are 8". Being in a community in Utah that was 100% mormon it was as tangible as getting the choice to go to the next grade with your friends or not or choosing to graduate high school. Id surmise from extrapolating what you said that your family were converts or not as submerged in a mormon community in the suburbs of Utah like I was, because all of us that were in this kind of mormon upbringing had never felt "pressured", that was usually felt from kids whos family were converts and the kids had not been in a mormon home and had been going since birth. Going on a mission you might feel it as pressure but even then living in Utah, in a community where everyone is LDS, there was a bit of "going on a mission is just what you do after high school". The problem is when everybody feels that way and everybody is leaving everybody gets that sense of "this is just what you do"
The kid literally was just talking about how they want to go to his friend's birthday party instead of church, and the parents get disappointed when, after being told he has the choice to do so, goes to his friend's birthday party? Like, what were they expecting to happen when he clearly stated his intentions???
I have a Mormon friend. They have a very strange relationship with water; he hasn’t told me a whole lot about it but it’s something to do with believing that Missionaries tend to have bad experiences travelling by boat? God only knows what’s going on in that cult, but to their credit they’re at least very nice people.
Yeah, I mean my family on my Mom’s side is Mormon, and my brother joined a few years ago (but on his own), and there’s really never been any problems. I guess maybe my Mom, brother, and entire family just were in chill wards or something. It’s been really beneficial for my brother being a missionary, so while I agree that it’s all a scam it hasn’t hurt me or my family at all.
the water will make them gay (note: they niceness is on average very surface level and there are people who are genuine in their niceness but boy what goes on in that cult is an actual mess)
I'm an ex mormon. as far as i know they convince missionaries that water is the devil so they don't go to pool activities and get turned on from seeing women in bikinis
Ex Mormon and former missionary here. Basically, Joseph Smith and some missionaries claimed to have a revelation that the devil travels in the waters. If you want to look it up, it’s D&C 61. This is the first I’ve heard regular members following this, but it doesn’t surprise me. Also it’s often applied only to missionaries to tell them not to swim, but the scripture itself also includes boating, which I know many missions that are only accessible by boat…
No joke I went on a young men's summer camp thing and was forged to go white water rafting. Of two hundred 14-18 year Olds only three fell. I was two of them. Also I can't fucking swim🙃
I’m ex Catholic and I was baptised at 2, but I was still allowed to wear bikinis to the pool or beach, go to a innocent birthday party any day (as long as I didn’t miss school), wear shorts, and I wasn’t locked inside the entire Sunday.
Also ex-Catholic. I was baptized when I was a baby (It feels weird to me that Mormons and JWs do it much later considering how early I did my baptism) and from what I remember, yeah. We could still do stuff on Sundays as long as we didn’t miss mass, since that was only around 2-3 hours at most and usually took place in the mornings anyways. I thought that Catholicism was a strict religion but seeing these Mormon and JW cartoons makes me realize that the kids have it much worse than I did.
@@Snorlax- It varies from family to family and many don't care if you go play with friends. The focus is on not working because of the part about, "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.” So basically don't do any hard labor. It's a day of rest. And as far as the baptism it seems more odd to put a baby through something they are not old enough to understand. It means more to let them wait and do it when they are old enough to make the decision themselves and understand exactly what the process entails and means from a spiritual standpoint.
As an ex-Mormon, the second she mentioned birthday I knew it would be on Sunday. I can’t tell you how many stories they tell kids about people having to make the decision not to do something on Sunday and then being *blessed* when they choose to do the *right* thing by doing NOTHING but church on Sundays (even if by not doing something on Sunday they hurt others) Also, Mormon kids CAN make friends outside of church but it’s strongly discouraged, especially in Utah
While I'm not into religion, I still appreciate the architecture of religious structures! That's the Salt Lake Temple at 2:30 and it is the largest Latter-day Saint temple by floor area with over 253,000 square feet! Dedicated in 1893, it is the sixth temple completed by the church, requiring 40 years to complete, and the fourth temple built since the Mormon exodus from Nauvoo, Illinois, in 1846. On the west side of the temple the Big Dipper appears, which represents how the priesthood can help people find their way to heaven as the constellation helped travelers find the North Star. On the east side of the temple are "clouds raining down" representing the way God has continued revelation and still speaks to man "like the rains out of Heaven". The beehive symbol (which appears on the Utah flag) appears on external doors and doorknobs and symbolizes the thrift, industry, perseverance, and order of the Mormon people. Above each external door and doorknob appears the "hand clasp," which is a representation of covenants that are made within temples or brotherly love. The top of the temple is a golden statue of Angel Moroni, originally by sculptor Cyrus E. Dallin. It symbolizes the angel mentioned in Revelation 14:6 that will come to welcome in the Second Coming of Christ. The original blueprint drawings intended the angel to be wearing temple ceremonial clothing like the angel on the Nauvoo Temple, but Paris-trained sculptor Dallin's 12.5 feet (3.8 m) statue wears a crown instead of a temple cap that included a bright light which created a halo effect at night. As a result of an earthquake in March 2020, the statue's trumpet broke, and a new statue was installed in April 2024.
If you're so fascinated with religious architecture, why don't you let religion into North Korea? Jokes aside, the symbolism and stuff is pretty cool. Joseph Smith studied freemasonry, eastern religions, and the occult (I don't think that's a bad thing, I have no opinion on it.) but a lot of the symbols and the ideas of using complex metaphorical symbols in general came from that.
@@snakecityproductions5906 This is false. Salt Lake City = 253,015 square feet DC = 160,000 square feet While the DC temple is the TALLEST at 288 feet, that doesn't mean it's the LARGEST.
Fun fact from an ex-mormon: They also do "baptizims for the dead" where someone stands in place of a literal dead person and get's baptized. From what I remember being taught, this is meant to save the spirit of the deceased from purgatory. Unrelated to that, once I was no longer mormon, my friends and I joked rather frequently about it, with one of the main jokes being "on the day of our lord and savior? Why I could never." referring to the fact that you're not allowed to do pretty much anything on sundays.
Oh dude I love doing baptisms for the dead. Yes it sounds creepy but it's a really important thing we do! Also we get to go inside the temple which is cool :)
@@poptatochisps342true man idk why people think this thing is so “weird” or “cultish”. It’s simply our beliefs and shouldn’t be ridiculed and we deserve respect just as everyone else does.
@@manakotaupauu it doesn't sound weird when you are born in to it. go read up on JW doctrine or read about heaven's gate. that feeling of "oh weird" you get? that's everyone else looking in to mormonism
I have a LOT to say about this as someone who was once a Mormon kid. But yeah, in my ward anyway, we weren't allowed to associate with non-mormons unless it was to convert them and we were encouraged to bring them to church. They also pressured my mom into divorcing my non-mormon dad and marrying someone in the church instead. She didn't do that, of course
Sooooo, pretty much jw lol. When my mother divorced my father, they tried to pressure my grandma into not talking to her ever again 💀 they are sooo extra, they even make a point of saying you shouldn't even share a table with a dissociated person.
I wasn’t Mormon but was raised Christian and was baptized at either 7 or 8. I was very confused with the whole process and didn’t want to do it but felt pressured to “make god happy” I’d pray every night and did my best to be a “good Christian” but even will all the work I put in as a kid nothing seemed to work. I was 12 when I started verbally fighting my parents on leaving me at home and that I was tired of going to church which made them double down and that I “needed church even more now” I’m 18 now and luckily haven’t been to church in years
My family is Christian, and when I was 12 I went to my mom (step mom, long story but I call her mom) and dad and told them I wanted to get baptised. And they were really happy for me. But then I started to doubt it, and I changed my mind. And I told them that I had changed my mind, that I felt like that i wasn't doing it for myself, that I was doing it to make them happy. And I wasn't forced into it. To this day I haven't been baptised, and they still love me all the same. I'm so glad I had parents like that in my life, and I feel so bad for the kids that are around the same age that get forced into it.
25:32 MY JAW LITERALLY HIT THE FLOOR I WAS NOT EXPECTING HIM TO SAY “GETTING A BAD FEELING COMES FROM GOD” WHAATT… all feelings come from god guys trust. 💀
I was raised mormon and my parents and all the people around me didn't have any trouble going places on sundays, the most important part was going to church, it didn't matter if you went over to a chill party afterwards, we often went over to my gran's house and had lunch there with my family members, you know, family reunions. Why are the US branches so extremist 💀latin america, or at least argentina's lds churches, were so chill lmao
I live in the US and, at least among my family, Utah and Idaho lds are… very weird. More worried about the image they give off than actual conversion. I don’t know why they are in such a bubble and are so strange tbh bc my parents never treated me like that
I’m a Mormon from the US and I don’t live in Idaho or Utah I do have grandparents that do and I can confirm that my Utah grandparents are much more conservative and resistive than my grandma in Idaho who is very chill and not that conservative. The youth (at least where I am) are personally a pretty good group of Mormons, I have one friend who is a little conservative than most of us but other than that the youth in my ward are gay, accepting, talk about mental health, and for every youth I’ve met their goal was to just treat others like how god would treat them
This is called spiritual abuse. Look it up when you guys have time. He feels empty because he didn’t follow the guidelines like what he’s just have fun and he can still have the spirit of peace with him like bro huh 💀10:39 and 9:12
I’m surprised they haven’t said anything to the kid about having a crush on a non Mormon. I’m pretty sure they aren’t allowed to have serious relationships with anyone outside the faith.
Ain't no way the Mormons have a Caleb and Sophia 😂 Edit: OMG they do. They do! Are these things monetized? Can the Watchtower sue? Bridgette-gate? This is insane. I do wish that it explained the culture a little better, but I suppose Caleb and Sophia literally do the same thing
3:29 Little tidbit from an ex-Mormon: While Mormon kids are not required to go out in service, they are pressured to create “missionary moments” in their day-to-day life. Basically this means telling non-Mormon friends about the “gospel” and inviting them to activities or church. It might mean creating an awkward social situation (refusing to watch an R-rated movie, turning down Sunday situations, asking people not to swear or take the Lord’s name in vain around you, etc) and then turning it into a preaching moment. I found all of this to be terribly awkward, so I usually didn’t do it, but I felt guilty about it. Anyways, it’s actually encouraged for Mormons to be very friendly with everyone, especially non-Mormons, as it creates “missionary moment” opportunities. I actually used to go to church camp with a couple of non-Mormons (none of them ever converted, thank god, they just liked to come along for the activities).
27:48 Okay I finished watching the video and I see that you kind of addressed this. While I genuinely enjoyed my friendships with my nonbeliever friends, I do feel like the only reason why these friendships were encouraged was to convert people.
As a fellow ex-Mormon I can attest to this. It’s framed as some kind of service to that person because they don’t get into Heaven Prime if they aren’t Mormon. Also, older kids and adults are pressured into harassing members if they don’t show up to church or activities. Call, text, show up at their houses specifically to try and get them to go back to church until the person tells you to stop. My youth group did this to a pair of girls that I was friends with at the time and they both told us to leave them alone. I didn’t understand why they didn’t want to see us until I was in my 20s and also trying to leave the church, and my family was on the receiving end of that.
Yeah when I was kid I just felt depressed and guilty that I couldn’t muster up enough courage to talk to classmates about the gospel, I felt horrible that I wasn’t doing anything just because I was to afraid of the awkward interaction. I only got out of it when I left the Mormon church and distanced myself aka being a normal person
I’m glad someone brought it up. I have a sister who, when she was young, had a friend who I could see she was clearly trying to convert. Couple years later I heard that the friend wasn’t coming to church anymore; clearly she wasn’t actually interested in joining, so my sister stopped inviting her over and hanging out with her altogether. It was obvious to me that my sister wouldn’t be friends with her unless she was willing to join. Also my wife who is now ex-Mormon even confirmed that this is a thing that they are encouraged to do. Edit: forgot to clarify that I haven’t been Mormon since I was 8 (mom pulled me out right before I was supposed to be babtized thank God) but my sister is.
As a former Mormon it’s so weird to hear others comments. I grew up in it and it just was so normal. Whenever I hear surprise or questions I want to answer them all, but it would take way too long lol. It wasn’t until I was an adult and talking to my Christian in-laws that I discovered all of these things were abnormal! To be honest, it was the South Park episode about Mormonism that finally opened up my eyes 😂
im an ex mormon and that first part is very accurate to how being a mormon is. I feel for that kid. Just trying to live your life, and feeling guilty and depressed for it. feeling bad for shopping/working/going out and doing stuff on sundays, getting told you'll go to hell for drinking coffee, watching your favorite show or playing your favorite game that just so happens to be M rated. Shamed for wearing shorts, even just in the house. Youre a bad person if you swear, are gay, trans, pretty much anything they'll find something to criticize. Mormons preach not to judge others but they are some of the most judgy people out there. Having been raised that way i found myself very easily offended and just a depressed and miserable person all around. Leaving the church was so freeing. I fell in love with a man who isnt mormon, he doesnt at all follow their rules. He makes me so happy, more than i ever thought i could be. I'm no longer depressed and i genuinely have a love for life that i used to never have. It's hard to break out of mormon habits, i still get nervous about wearing slightly more showy clothes, or about swearing in front of others.... but I'm recovering from their indoctrination. I love my husband just the way he is and if i didnt break away from mormonisum i probably wouldve never given him a chance. We have a son we'll be meeting soon and i couldnt be happier!
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This reminds me of when I went to SLC on a Sunday. Don’t ever visit Salt Lake City on Sundays, the only thing to do is go to a zoo. They fr are forbidden to do anything on Sunday
It's actually surprising coming to Utah and seeing that like half of all shops and restaurants and establishments are closed on Sundays. At least Sundays are a fantastic day to go out on the roads, considering nobody leaves their house except for church lmao
You can visit Temple Square, the biggest tourist attraction in Salt Lake City. It is definitely open on Sundays! And visit parks, and hike. Nowadays most stores, restaurants, and amusement areas are open on Sundays, too. But it is true that some are not.
@@Short_n_sweet1? All the brew pubs are definitely open Sundays. And it's more like many people would like a break and a chance to go to church instead of working. But many have to work on Sunday now.
The reason Mormons don’t swim on Sunday is because of some old folk doctrine-it is believed that the devil has power in the water, especially on Sundays. I believe that some FLDS Mormons(fundamentalists) aren’t allowed to swim EVER because of this rule.
@@paracosmic4124 Because it’s a “folk doctrine” it varies between Mormon communities. FLDS don’t swim at all, and they sometimes think satan has power over it all of the time. MLDS (mainstream mormon church) members, if they are even aware of the legend consciously, generally think that it’s only on Sundays. As a former Mormon, it was so programmed into me that swimming on Sunday was an absolute no-no that I hardly questioned it at all. It was only after I started to do actual research and deconstruct that I realized how nonsensical and wild that rule was.
@@sparrow737 One of our most important ordinances (baptism) has a lot to do with water. I don't think that would be the case if we believed that Satan controlled water.
@@paracosmic4124That water has been blessed though so Satan would no longer have power over it. And a baptism pool is different than a body of water in nature that can be dangerous and unpredictable, or a pool for fun where people dress far outside of typical mormon standards. A quick google search led to me finding several mormons asking questions about swimming online, with the phrase "Satan controls the waters" repeated several times, even on ldsdaily, a mormon website. Clearly it's a tradition many mormons grew up believing even if you didn't.
eat. the. cupcake. there's nothing sinful about enjoying a cupcake. and any religion that makes you feel like shit for eating a cupcake is not one that I want to belong to.
In the Catholic Church, the only two days in which Miguel would not be allowed to eat that cupcake are on Ash Wednesday (a day of penance in preparation for Easter Sunday) and Good Friday (the anniversary of Jesus's crucifixion). Both are days of Fasting (only one full meal and two light meals on each day, no snacks or desserts) and Abstinence (no eating the flesh of land animals). Any other day of the year (yes, even Sundays) is fine.
As an Ex-Mormon 1. Painting/photo of the temple in your house is very normal, and giving a temple picture as a gift is normal. 2. Its not even that 8 is the minimum age to get baptized, its looked down apon if your not baptized within a few months of your 8th birthday. Its not even a descision, its just something you do when you turn 8. 3. The lady at 20:40 has a deep (by mormon standards) V neck shirt, modesty is huge and that would probably not fly. Im surprised that they chose to dress her this way. 4. Yes it is weird that the men touch the little girl, but unfortunately still thats not even the weirdest thing men do to little girls in the church. Great video Panda Tower!
@@Short_n_sweet1 yeah you agree they should elaborate or yeah that's exactly what I think it is? I've been a member my whole life and sexual abuse is not something we condone
@@paracosmic4124 ..It's just weird, I'm against all that myself but I can't say anything for my church..because I try not to be near any grown adult men.
Theres a girl in my school from a mormon family, but they are sooooo laid back, they let her be who she wants to be, how she acts, and gets to dress how she wants, she got a Ton of friends too
As someone in an LDS household (currently questioning what we believe ALOT) I can tell you when Miguel realised the party was on a Sunday was so accurate I swear growing up having to go to Church every single Sunday of my life as an awkward trans/queer AuDHD teen with little to no friends (especially none at Church) its boring. You 'learn' the same things over and over and over and over and just end up knowing everything to it. I get shamed for wanting to draw in class instead of hearing the same stuff over and over, for not understanding all the non literal things they say, etc. I remember once i was in a different ward and someone said sthn abt how when we go to heaven we will all become kings and queens/gods and goddesses I remember vividly asking "What about people who identify as a different gender that they were born with" and the two other people in class gasped and laughed The teacher said in a different voice "Then you'll get what you were born with" I don't get it If you were born with something that causes u intense stress and dysphoria wouldn't it make more sense to then be what you identify as? My dad (Narcissistic, probably has some other mental disorders, etc etc) had a very interesting abuse method because his twisted way of thinking genuinely thought he wasn't doing anything wrong I don't know if all LDS ppl are like that (ik my mum isn't) but he had this whole messed up "common people" thing Shaming us and often using "common" as an insult I don't get how normal is bad Like little things that r normal for kids to do like: not being friendly to everyone, saying "omg", etc were considered common This is getting long so imma stop writing now lol
21:37 exmormon here. I was taught that the peace anyone outside mormonism ever felt was not “true” peace, that happiness could only be found in the church, and that everyone else was secretly miserable but deceived by satan into thinking they were happy or at peace. Because don’t we all want social and deific pressures guilting us 24/7
Crazy how Miguel was having so much fun and felt fulfilled untill the unnecessary guilt came over and ruined a possible awesome childhood experience that he would've remembered forever☹️ Mormon guilt at such a young age...
@@Maevbytheshadow14 is literally so young, it’s not like she’s 18+, not saying that she shouldn’t have her own opinions but at the same time wait till you’re able to move at least
As a “member”I completely agree, I have to go to seminary, and there’s some messed up stuff we had this guy talk about if you have depression it’s because you have lost your knowing of your identity that can PURELY just be a member. I have limited sleep due to all this s*^$t and I can’t wait till I move out.
I will answer any questions if you don’t wanna read this whole thing ❤ The first one: Sundays are our “days of rest” we’re not supposed to do anything they require effort other than going to church or spending time with family. It goes back to when the first pioneers settled they would farm each day but on Sunday so they could focus their day on God. Sunday is God and family focused and that’s why we don’t go out and do activities. 13:15 so, I just wanted to talk a little about this. We’re not supposed to drink coffee because of the addicting properties and that goes with a lot of drinks. We can drink it from time to time but it’s recommended you don’t. Second one: it’s not exactly a contract, it can’t really be defined by just contract because we are not completely bound. It’s like a promise that no matter how many times you break it you will always be forgiven. Yes the Holy Ghost gives peace and guidance. When you are baptized you are cleansed of all your sins to “start over”. The ties are just for show they’re not actually worn in the font Third one: not necessarily, lots of things can make you feel peace but when it’s a time when the spirit is around that is when it’s from the spirit. It’s not “when you’re prayers are answered” but a feeling and sometimes a thought that what you’re doing will benefit you or others. It’s a little hard to explain. 23:29 uh oh I know where this is going. Laying hands upon a kids head is how we administer blessings with things like a preathood blessing, a calling, or the Holy Ghost. A priesthood blessing gives strength to the given individual in any hardship. The Holy Ghost can aid us in things we should do, it’s a guide and it can have us feel when we shouldn’t do something/something is wrong. We know that evryone can feel these things. We believe our whole purpose here is to live our lives and fallow the commandments no god has outright stoped a kid from getting hurt but prompted them that it wasn’t a good idea. It is kinda like a superpower though lol.
My foster parents are Mormons. Even though my 18th birthday fell on a Sunday (June 24, 2018), my foster dad took me and my foster siblings out to eat before letting me know that they usually don't do anything on Sundays outside of church and rest due to their religion. Note: my foster parents are from California initially, and my foster dad is a military chief, making them a bit more "liberal" compared to others in their community (my foster mom dyes and cuts her hair in cool ways, and my foster dad is big into anime, Marvel and horror films, and punk/metal concerts). Sadly, we still don't see the world the same way as I am not religious and lean more towards democratic.
23:48 Growing up Mormon, I wasn't allowed to hang out with friends unsupervised (particularly non-Mormon or of the opposite sex), even as a teenager. I'm jealous of these kids in so many ways 😂
I always had a suspicion that the Mormons were just copying the witnesses, and this confirms it.😂 Also I like how the Mormon parents gave the child the choice to go or not. With witness parents there is no choice.
In reality, the opposite might well be true. Mormonism had been around for 50 years when the watchtower Society had been founded, so perhaps they were influenced by the whole idea of “revelation in these latter days”.
@@timmy18135 Mormonism was inspired by a hodge podge of ideas, some of which may have been pulled from the freemasons. Particularly, some of the original temple ceremonies have been claimed to have been based on freemason rituals. The smith family was a family of cons that moved around the country a lot. Essentially they'd take off to another state whenever their latest con got them into hot water. That era also had a resurgence of gospel revivals around the country, as well as growing interest in the metaphysical and "new agey" stuff, and moving around so much enabled them to pick up ideas from lots of different groups that would eventually be stuffed into the original church's rites and dogma. There's potential evidence that at least some of the book of mormon was copied from native american stories that had recently been transcribed into written english, that Joseph's older brother would have learned at a boarding school he was sent to. So while the freemason's might have influenced something, there really wasn't one particular group or concept that inspired mormonism. Joseph was probably groomed by his family from an early age to eventually turn into the cult leader he became, and he plucked whatever prophecy or command he could think of that would get him whatever he wanted, at any given moment once he had the power to do so.
This feels weird because I grew up mormon, in a mormon neighborhood, in Utah "the mormon state." We didn't have any of these rules, and hungout with my friends after church all the time. They were also mormon.
I grew up Mormon and I distinctly remember when I was invited at age 9 to a friend's Birthday Party on a Sunday afternoon. I wasn't allowed to go, but my mother drove me over to the friend's house to give her her birthday gift that Sunday afternoon. I was only allowed to give her her Birthday present and then leave. I was completely indoctrinated into believing the non-Mormons who had Birthday Parties on Sunday were bad people. And, looking back, I think the whole idea of driving over to give my friend the gift and not stay for the party was intended to make them feel guilty, even though they weren't Mormon.
think it really depends on how liberal the community you're raised in is. it's my understanding that salt lake city is pretty chill in comparison to the rest of utah? and i guess for comparison's sake, i wouldn't compare a boise mormon to a rexburg mormon in idaho (two VASTLY different cultures from each other in the lds community)
My biological mom was Mormon as a teen and left the church as soon as she could. My parents had both me and my brother blessed when we were born, and I have no clue what that entails. But I've been to friend's catholic baptisms and first communions, and at the evangelical free church I went to as a tween (until age 13) I watched a lot of baptisms. I remember asking my dad and step mom if I had to get baptized and was told I didn't need to because I was blessed as a baby. But from watching them so much I realized I can't give up control enough for a pastor to dunk me in a tub of water.
A baby blessing is not a baptism in The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. It’s just a blessing welcoming you into the world, and it kind of marks the first documentation of you within the church. Baptisms are done at the age of 8, or after if you’re not ready. With a baby blessing, priesthood holding men will place their hands on the baby as one of them (usually the father if he can) will give the child a unique and special blessing, blessing them with a name as well. It’s very sweet. Not weird at all. Babies are sometimes dressed in really cute white outfits, but that’s not required.
@@nicoleterry5105..Yeah, I remember being dressed up for it I was probably like eight years old at the time too I cried a lot because I didn't know why they were touching me.
Ok so as a Mormon I'm here to clear up two misconceptions 1. We worship Joseph Smith we atually barely really bring him up and when we do it's very brief. 2. He isn't a prophet because he had many wifes. Yes we are aware of this and the reason is God commanded many men to do this while crossing the plains and the reason why he had over 40 wifes is because many widows and children whould die without a father and there where little men and it wasn't just Joseph Smith.
1. How is singing "praise to the man" not a form of worship? 2. A very creepy excuse for paedophilia, as I'm sure you're aware Jospeh Smith married 14 year olds
10/10 video, Panda, my day is indeed ruined after seeing what these poor indoctrinated kids have to endure. I can only hope they someday escape this abusive religion.
It would be funnier if Miguel had a great time at the party but then it shows old Miguel pass away surrounded by family and friends and go straight to Mormon hell for that one time he went to the party.
oohhhhh nooo you went to a party with your 4 year old friends when you were 3 oh nooo youre going to hell for the rest of your life and theres nothing you can do about ittttt you should be ashamedddd
I am currently a member and when I was younger, I was not allowed to do much on Sundays, but im older now and I can. this wasn't a decided age thing but my family decided to separate the toxic cultural aspects that have become associated with the church and stick to the doctrine and what helps us feel the spirit. I go to birthday parties and pool parties on Sundays no problem and I wear short shorts and bikinis. also- all the dress code stuff has been taken down by church authorities. there is still some cultural stigma, but that's cause ppl r toxic not the church.
I spoke to a beautiful young female Mormon missionary. She got me to promise to pray on whether I should become a Mormon. Well, a promise is a promise. So When I got home, I prayed, "GOD should I become a Mormon? And by the way, I would rather not." I was happy to get nothing at all in return. I took the silence as a no.
That's a weird thing about Mormonism. They seem to encourage people to pray and find answers for themselves, but when people come back with the "wrong" answer they don't accept it. They just believe you weren't ready to receive the "right" answer.
@@axoid Correct. Plus not getting the "correct" answer to your prayer about whether or not the Church is True, means, to Mormons, that there's something wrong with you! We always firmly believed that all good people woud get an answer in the affirmative. Of course, it didn't happen for me. Weeks of praying, reading the Book of Mormon, and praying to know whether or not it was True --- no answer, no "spiritual witness."
First of all: When at 26:24 (in the cartoon about the girl with the broken leg) the blonde non- Mormon boy asked "So what does it feel like when you get a blessing?", an ad about cheap holiday offers instantly came up 😆 Now my actual comment: I haven't heard of this cartoon series and I am interested in you reviewing more or reviewing other LDS material in the future! Now that I have an insight in this cartoon, I find it interesting that Mormons have their own (only?) cartoon as well. Personally, I'm also interested in the LDS church topic (not as a potential believer, fyi) like what they believe, how they organize their 2 year missionary service or how they live their daily lives (usually). But watching these cartoons - include the old prophet's "I LOVE YOU" - gave me SOME disenchantment. First of all: What the LDS cartoons lack in look, they have more in soul and heart. As you, Panda, said, it does not feel as cold and artificial as the JW cartoons. But just seeing that boy suddenly feeling depressed because he is a Mormon celebrating on a SUNDAY and instantly lighten up when he talks about religion again... ...that these kids obviously got taught that they feel natural feelings because of their Mormon God... makes me feel a bit unfomfortable, because it feels quite culty again. Like: what happens if these kids learn more about life and find something that makes them think or talk critically about their church? And these cartoons overall have a purpose outside of edutainment, right? Now I feel like drawing a crossover artwork with the Miguel/Sophia and Caleb/Sophia.
I was convinced to become a mormon when he said "it's mormon time" and started morming all over them
😅😅😅
LMAOOOOO 😭😭
I giggled so hard wth 😭😭
Ah so that where that chinchilla bluey wannabe cartoon got the “ Chilla time”
From
😂😂😂
I grew up Mormon. I felt constant shame and guilt as young as 5 years old. Don't raise your kids this way
Raise them teach them and love them is the way to go :/
It seems as though mormon kids and jw kids struggled the same way. Feelings of self-doubt and shame.
OMG yes. I've recently realized all my toxic shame, OCD, and pathological guilt stem from my weirdo Christian (not JW or Mormon) upbringing. It's psychological abuse to do this to a child, and it can affect them into adulthood. Thanks for sharing, hope you're doing better 💕
Like in every organized religion?
@@stars_of_destiny I disagree with mormonism as well, but not everyone agrees on "love" so this isn't exactly a clear piece of advice.
I like that the "wordly" person, his friend, wasn't portrayed as a wicked, angry, awful person, as jw portray the non witnesses
Good point! And they’re not forbidden from hanging out with these wicked worldly people!
@@rachelle2032 wasent that all jesus did was hang qwith "worldly evil peaople"
@@NightmareRex6 Yep, but he was a sinner, and God killed him for that.
@rachelle2032 exactly! The jw organization teaches the people to be scared of the nom witnesses, but the Mormon at least portray them as normal as most people are. Fun thing, while I was suffering from the injustices I had to deal from the organization, I became friends with a Mormon lo
@@eppuparanormaali1999 ....thats not how it worked XD
my baptist Christian family pressured me to get baptized at age 6, then told me I wasn't old enough to convert to another religon when I'm 18
Same, I was once a Baptist but know I converted to Islam 2.5 years ago Alhamdulilah
same lol, i used to be catholic but converted to hellenism last year! one of the best decisions i’ve ever made imo
@@jafar_sayyid-basil24434 honored to have you in our community. ❤️❤️💕
I got baptized at about one month old. Sorry you had to go through that
@@jafar_sayyid-basil24434 literally same
I have to be honest, while it is still nasty religious propaganda, I find these Mormon cartoons much more life-like and believable than the JW ones, where everyone is just a plastic lifeless cutout. These characters actually sounds like real people with emotions.
Kinda makes it even more messed up though
@@Pigismalexactly. I agree, the characters are way more realistic, but that’s even worse because these are actual questions that Mormon children will ask themselves. And the video, disguised as a way to help them, explains to them that they just need to stop thinking and just follow. This is the purest form of brainwashing and child indoctrination.
I have a theory that JW animators are secretly sabotaging it because they think it's too much of a toxic ass bullshit.
I mean, first:
JW can't go to universities, it's even an issue on one of their episodes, not having a career and all, that cartoon has actually good quality animation, I mean, on technical level, it's well made. None who never went to animation college or has extensive work on animation even as a self developed (and it takes a lot of time and resources that they're forbbiden to spend) would be able to do that. I mean, good luck on finding a huge group of capable JW animators to work good frequency released episodes.
Second:
Again, this animation is good quality, specially in a some details like, posing, body language, mood settings and such. There are many scenes where their parents are represented as quite displeasing figures, the kids are constantly portrayed as always repressed and miserable, specially Sophia. They pretty much know what they are doing.
All that excluding the obvious problematic things on their scripts themselves, like, the whole story and all, how Sophia is so intelligent and interested in science and dreams about college, studying and having an amazing career at such young age and she just have to give up already and throw all her dreams in the trash because of this hellish cult, about how both those kids are being taught to accept that they'll be deprived from normal experiences kids should have at their ages like having friends around their age, playing with them and such. I'm not actually putting this in the list because I can't assume how much of control they have on that, the animation itself, they rule it.
If it wasn't for how problematic and sad to watch Sophia and Caleb is, and there's semiotic help on that, JW wouldn't be considered half as bad as it is seem now.
even at that, it still looks like dollar store Mission Hill
i don't know if that's a good thing tbh. the closer to real humans they feel, the more you sympathize. the more you sympathize, the easier you are to convince...
I was forced to be a Mormon by my mom. My dad took my little sister and I out of the church after he saw how we were treated. That was 12 years ago and I was 12.
What a great father.
So you're 24
@@ChasetheG in June this year.
@@blueheartsoul1654happy early early birthday
My mom and dad decided to split up and live in different houses. I chose to live with my dad. So, I'm doing better than I would with my mom.
Miguel's day being ruined by seeing the church right over the fence is the most relatable thing living as an ex mormon in utah-
Hey i live in utah as an ex Mormon also :D
I am a ex Mormon from California. As a young adult I was a Hippie who traveled around the US going to concerts and I was in a truck that broke down in Utah on my way to Denver CO. The guy who owned the truck started acting angry and was blaming me and my bestie. My best friend who was also a ex-Mormon and I started to get scared so we stuck out our thumbs. A nice Mormon guy picked us up and drove us the whole way to Denver. He wouldn’t accept any money and wasn’t creepy or even pushy about preying with us.
I also live in utah but my parents definitely won't let me leave, but the second I turn 18 I'm RUNNING. And when they make me take seminary in high-school, I'm just skipping class 🤷
@@pipi-cacathat’s considered child abuse in like every other state
@@maaingan Damn
As an Ex Mormon I really disliked Sunday. My memory of church was that is was this boring place where the AC was too cold and you sat around for 3 hours hearing the same boring indoctrination you had already heard a million times. The only food I was allowed to have was a piece of mint chewing gum. Now whenever I think of church I physically feel the sensation of being cold, hungry and bored.
The silver lining however is that one day my best friend and I got fed up that nonsense. So made a copy of the key to the attic which we had access to when we where helping setup for an event. In most Mormon churches the attic is a large secluded space where equipment is stored. While I was up there I noticed my church was storing a bunch of old CRT tv's that had recent been replaced by LCD's. So every Sunday after that instead of going to our Sunday "classes" we hooked up my Xbox 360 to one of the CRT's and played Halo. The best part is since the ceiling are drop down we could listen for a few minutes to our classes so could tell our parents we were in class and give a small summary of what we "Learned". I even still have some photos we took of the mancave we turned that attic into lol.
don't forget the crumb of bread and sip of water (re: sneaking into the attic - yo that's hella dope)
Sweet
Not being allowed to eat is horrendous. They didn’t have a room in the back where you could hear the meeting without distracting other members of the congregation with the sound of your eating? 🤢🤮
Catholicism wasn't much better, bruv. Wasted a lot of childhood Sundays I should've been boning up on Geometry, plastic modeling, or fishing.
@@Bob-b7x6v honestly. im not really into that religious stuff anymore, but praying is okay, i guess. the problem is when it becomes a MUST. i just dont see the point of sitting there for an entire hour, when right after i get home, im expected to go to bed.
Sounds like he’s becoming clinically depressed bc of his religion tbh, can’t enjoy normal activities, it’s hard to have fun talking to his peers, doesn’t want to go out bc of guilt, like cmon he’s literally becoming depressed it’s so dang sad
What’s an introvert???? You’re being sensitive. Giving a child restrictions is not something that can cause A CHILD depression. You are over reacting and need to stop looking for reasons to hate
@@Ghostie_2💀💀💀
@@Ghostie_2a child definitely can become depressed from being isolated from their peers and activities they want to do lmao, isn't that common sense that not doing fun things good for development is gonna mess them up
yes I understand that entirely. As someone who grew up completely isolated because of issues out of my own control, my parents, and someone who has had severe depression, I do understand that you can become depressed. What I'm saying, is that the main comment is mocking people like myself who has actually been through it. Feeling guilty or having a one time sad experience like the kid is NOT depression. I am also Mormon and I can tell you now, missing out on birthdays/ not hanging out with other kids on Sunday had no effect on me and other kids I knew from church. The video is definitely over the top because q child wouldn't feel like that, but you need to be over the top to actually teach something. You will not get depression from feeling a one time guilt, and you definitely won't when you ski out on hanging with friends one day of the week. Sorry that my comment before left out a lot of context on this, but I honestly didn't think anyone would read it.@@hellohaveagoodday
You can't sell a fix if you don't break the thing first
I hate how these religious cartoons guilt trips kids against normal and expected child behavior.. Seriously, this is normal child behavior, what kid would pick church over a party? A party with a pool? Also, the fact that this family has a pool full of green sludge that burns leaves on contact shows that the parents are irresponsible and neglectful. Religions need to learn that kids aren't small adults. I mean, I'm sure God (or whatever his name is) is more likely to forgive a child for breaking his rules since they're young and still learning.
Exactly i agree.
Honestly that’s why I love my current church. I’ve been to mormon and catholic churches as a kid and it was awful. My current one is nondenominational and I volunteer in the kids area. Honestly it’s cool seeing kids there genuinely excited to go there. It’s honestly just a daycare or preschool with crafts that happen to be jesus themed. That’s all churches should do for kids, create a welcoming and accepting environment for them. Not teach them they have to follow this book of thousands of rules. Anyone who’s done work in an elementary school or preschool, *knows* kids don’t follow strict rules half the time.
@@WarpedKarma6471what’s the name of your church denomination? And do they allow gay people or abortions and those types of stuff?
@@amitystan The denomination is literally called “nondenominational” and the big focus of my specific church is faith through action, getting out and serving our community regardless of belief. Essentially yes, we don’t really care what you believe. You are welcome regardless of if the bible agrees with it.
Isolating communities like the lgbtq and pro life communities aren’t going to do anything. Welcoming them and helping them in their times of need show the love of christ. Dividing ourselves based on personal and trivial things like gender identity or abortion opinions only helps the movement of satan. It entirely goes against the “welcoming of the sick” that Jesus taught. It’s like a hospital refusing a cancer patient for fear of the cancer spreading to others. Stupid and hypocritical.
@@amitystan
The name is literally “nondenominational” and my church has a bigger focus on going out into the community and serving the community ourselves. We welcome everyone regardless of belief just like Jesus did, in “welcoming the sick.” If we turn people away from the church because they’re gay, or because they support abortion, it’s the philosophical equivalent of a hospital banning cancer students(edit: meant patients) to prevent the spread of cancer. Anyone and everyone can get sick with cancer, regardless of health or exposure to it, and the hospital itself is employed to HELP those people in their times of need, not turn them away.
Not to say is not messed up and wrong to impose that on a kid, but Miguel was waaaay more adjusted than either Caleb or Sophia, as is his family, frankly, I am surprised that they even allowed him the choice to go or not, he was still feeling guilty and they encouraged him not to go, to they didn't forced him to stay either. For what we saw, he didn't bombed his social life and became a outcast like Caleb and Sophia, nor is seen as the weird religious cult kid
Yeah. It's a little bit much, but I honestly didn't have a problem with this one. Caleb and Sofia was bad. This is just eh. Not good, certainly. But not bad
In my experience growing up Mormon, I was only encouraged to partake in church activities, never shamed or treated negatively about my choices. I was only ever forced by my parents to go to Sunday school when I was too young to be left alone at home.
@@TheLalacream FELT. maybe I'm biased, but i feel like the mormon church doesn't fuck up kids as bad as the JW's do😂even tho i'm not active as an adult and i'm questioning a lot of things, i can still say i had a really good childhood and teenagehood both in and out of church stuff. course i also just have great parents who were pretty chill
@TheLalacream I wish my parents did (or do) that. I have all the reasons in the world why it's bad for me to go; lack of belief, meltdowns from screaming kids in the meetings due to my high functioning autism, social anxiety that makes it hard to be around crowds and people I dont know, adhd that makes it hard to stay in one place doing nothing but listening to things I don't believe or care about, ptsd from years of memories of being forced into meetings (my mom would snap at us to make us be quiet, and I still get scared whenever I hear someone snap, even not directed at me). Not to mention that I'm going to be eighteen in about six months... and they still won't let me stay home from church. Definitely going to go low-no contact with them as soon as I can move out, because this is ridiculous.
@@instantdoodles4828 I felt the same way. But I'm from the Catholic, I still remember my mom forcing me literal everything and I found out she's emotionally narcissistically abusive.
At that point, I wouldn't be here and committed suicide instead 💀
I used to be super religious and went to therapy for depression. The psychiatrist literally put me on anti psychotics for saying stuff like "God wants me..." or "my mission..." sigh... That was my eye opener.
That’s wild
I had a friend put on antipsychotics for a very similar reason. Only he wasn't raised religious _at all_ - he suddenly found it of his own volition during his twenties (we actually both met in a mental health service of all places). My man claimed all organised monotheistic religions were corrupt (hardly a stretch lol) and he had the learned the "true" interpretation of the Bible - which he'd gleaned direct through what (I believe) were his diagnosed episodes of psychosis. He went way off the edge with it all eventually though and I kinda lost contact with him.
He was chill af, but we'd get drunk/stoned together and he'd start spouting conspiracy theories and try convincing me to let him baptise me in the sink. One time I was drunk enough to let him. Joke's on him though - I was already baptised Catholic as a child (something I only found out like last year off my mom rofl) 😅
lol anti psychotics don’t remove religious beliefs or the voice of God 😂 I take them too for different reasons and my religious beliefs are still in tact. Gods voice isn’t audible. It’s a thought or a feeling. It’s completely different from schizophrenia.
Just for that? Bro that’s messed up. I understand religious scrupulosity (I’ve had it too) so that kind of talk can definitely be to excess, but for some people that type of vernacular is quite normal. Well, we can debate about whether or not it’s healthy, but it’s certainly not /psychotic/ all by itself.
That is a ridiculous reason to put someone on antipsycotics.
I can guarantee God would not give two shits if a kid went to a pool on a Sunday. I'm not really all that religious anymore but I can tell you that my family would often make plans for after church since everyone was usually free on Sunday. In fact, the only rule for Sunday was that is was the day of rest, which means that it was the day that everyone could relax and not do chores or work. While Saturday was the opposite, it was the day that everyone got their chores finished.
Yeah I agree with you
Thats what most Mormons believe as well. Most of these cartoons about Mormonism take it to the extreme.
As a mormon, yeah, you’re right. It’s more about the principle of keeping the sabbath day holy, as they’re trying to get us to grow up with at least a bit of devotion to God as we so quickly get consumed by school and such that sometimes it’s hard to remember religion. I do have several memories similar to that of this kid but nothing as tragic as the idea of missing ‘Bridget’s LEGENDARY party.’ Top ten tragedies of the century I tell you
Mormons are like Muslims.
They have their own book and their own prophet.
Mormonism isn't Christianity.
Wait... how can you guarantee that?
It is absolutely INSANE to me how they fully represent the kids’ internal suffering, yet somehow come up with a phrase or speech to keep them indoctrinated. They are fully aware of what precisely any child goes through and how bad they feel, and they work SO hard to make them feel like “this is how you’re supposed to feel, just push it down and keep loving God”.
It's because of the desire to control others. Invalidating the feelings of a child, let alone not treating them with the respect, unconditional love and care they need and deserve is super gross. Fanaticism never considers the feelings of the people they want to control. Because the more people follow their gospel, the more powerful they feel. It's always been about power.
@@nevaehhamilton3493Is that really it? You are so full of crap
I mean, Toy Story made me feel extremely shameful for abandoning Toys, and that doesn't mean that my parents had to not make me snap back to reality
The point is to gain total control over the members and also remove individuality so the cult is more important than the individual. Communist do the same thing. It's well-known methods of control. You would be surprised to know despite being opposite in appearance, how similar religion and Communist are.
I will say this: the reason they feel that this suffering isn’t bad is because they see it as a “lesson”. They think that the kid’s decision is bad, and that they will come to that realization on their own.
And when they reach that “realization” due to indoctrinated guilt, the parents think that that guilt is proof that what the kid was doing is bad.
An incredibly vicious cycle; one that isn’t easily broken. Plus it makes them less likely to question the church’s teachings (I saw it work for my child, how could it be wrong?)
So it's okay to eat floor cake, but a child cannot enjoy a birthday
Logic
seeing how she ate the cake from the flip flop...i...i need therapy....
I saw this comment before I watched the video and I am genuinely baffled 😭😭💀💀
floor cake is very good tho
I'm an ex-Mormon and we had birthday parties on Sundays before and virtually almost all our friends were also LDS as well and they would come over for birthday parties on a Sunday. It's up to personal belief, judgment, and choices on what is and isn’t considered appropriate for the sabbath outside of the general rules of attending church, no spending money/shopping, and no working (that one is lenient as some people have no choice). It’s highly encouraged that you do peaceful activities and scripture study and stuff; also Sunday being a day of rest so like restful activities, I guess. But many Mormons hang out before and/or after church and do activities with their friends and families and have family get togethers or parties or have birthday parties with friends and family. It’s quite common at least where I grew up in Utah 🤷♂. It’s usually a more lowkey thing on a Sunday though. The girl's birthday party in the video was a more highkey event (which is kind of pushing it for a Sunday for Mormons) I’m assuming that the party being highkey and the girl being a non-member the family deemed that it wasn’t a sabbath day appropriate activity for them thus not wanting him to go.
My mom is a christian, she used to take me to church since I was a kid, but she never pushed me to do anything. Even when I said I didn't wanted to go anymore when I was 11 or 12 she didn't forced anything.
A few years later, I started to read the Bible myself and really study it. Now, I actually am going to the church by myself, and I am loving each moment of that ❤^^
THAT is how one should raise kids, great job on your mom, she's amazing.
Train a child in the way they shall go and they shall never depart she did right should never force anyone to do anything they dont want to
Lucky my mom forced me out to house to go to church and when I was too big I was grounded for not wanting to go 😂
This is truly the way to go. I love my parents with all my heart and I won’t deny that their love for the church inspired me to seek God when I grew up, but it was ultimately my choice. They were also vehement in expressing that they would love and embrace me no matter what decision I make or what path I went down on. Nowadays, my dad trusts me enough to talk to me when HE is having a faith crisis. He doesn’t believe a lot of what he once did and even apologized for “dragging” me into it. What an amazing person. I will never stop bragging about my imperfect (by church standards) but wonderful parents.
May God bless you🙏
Miguel’s cringy ass will never get a girlfriend 😭😭💀
fr
a boyfriend maybe tho
He just needs to break away from the church and everything will be better :(( it was for me when I was a kid
😂@@dyalisix
He's gonna end up in the single's ward LOL
"We have a pool!"
No kid, you have a toxic waste dump
I actually started laughing and had to pause the video because that bubbling pit of filth
Fr, it looks like something that belongs in the Fallout games.
yes thats the joke
Moral of the story. Mormons don’t clean their pools
thatsthejoke.jpg 😐
I grew up Mormon- I still have a lot of religious trauma. I constantly felt guilt as a kid. I remember I had to share my 6th birthday with my brothers Baptism celebration.
I'm currently Ormond, and aw man, I'm sorry about that. Nobody likes sharing birthdays, even if it's for a baptism. Even though you were 6 i still feel bad that you had to share your birthday
I had to share my 5th birthday with my brother’s baptism. Every year I shared a birthday party with him. But of course I had my own party with friends when I turned 8 and got baptised myself. It’s just because our birthdays are three days apart and it would be too much money for two parties. I don’t see what’s wrong with that?? And what does that have to do with the LDS church?
I've been out of the church for over a decade and I only gradually started realising that some of what I experienced was traumatic. I used to believe that fellow exMos talking about their traumatic experiences in the church were just being over dramatic. My experience as a Mormon was mostly a good one. I simply stopped believing and gradually left. None of the trauma I experienced compares to the trauma of someone like a r*pe survivor, but it was traumatic, albeit mild, none the less. I've only recently allowed myself to feel empathy to my younger self for what I a forced to go through. I still occasionally have nightmares about being stuck on my mission or being caught masturabing so it does seem to bubble up still, but I've felt so much freer and happy since I left.
Yeah, the rest of my family is Mormon,p (I left but good lord I wouldn’t tell them) and I just feel so bad going to my cousins 8th birthdays, it’s always a baptism birthday and the day is just about that
Ex-Mormon myself as well
(Also living in Utah)
It's like a constant reminder of the guilt I felt, when I'd think of anything slightly "unholy" by Mormon standards, when I'm surrounded by mormons
13:42 this is NOT pinkie pie 💀 No way they genuinely ripped off her design for this cult cartoon 😨
That's MAGENTA TART from Temu, bro what is this‽
@Cure_Wonderful225 nice pfp
@Cure_Wonderful225 yeah
@switchyayfr
Dinkie die
14:05 catholics being baptized as soon as possible after they are born: 👁👄👁
Methodists also being baptized as babies: 👁👄👁
orthodoxes being baptized babies too
Unfortunately I think I was baptized at 7, and I remember kid me WAS CRYIN MAD KID ME HATED THE ITCHY DRESS 💀
I mean sometimes there’s even teens that go through their Baptism, Communion, and Conformation at one mass. I believe it’s called the Easter Vigil. Been to the one my church hosted. It’s actually pretty cool!
@@KTKittnYT yeah ik, usually it is at the Easter Vigil Mass, its just most Catholics born to Catholic families are baptized as babies
Those swimming rules are for girls camp rules, not for just swimming but as an ex Mormon I can say that you aren’t really “allowed” to go anywhere but church on Sunday, you can still do it though
Yeah I could tell it was for girl's camp. I don't think there's any rules against swimming especially if it's a pool in your own backyard, it's more about going out and attending a party. which my parents let me do all the time anyway as a kid in the mormon church, but they were chill😂
Im a current Mormon and I dont remeber there being a piece of doctrine that said you cant go anywhere.
Yeah the rules were for camp, other than the girls have to wear a one piece swimsuit that one applies to anywhere even if you wear a rash guard over just a normal swimsuit
This is such a dumb comment to make but the animators for these cartoons are really into My Little Pony. The horse drawing the carriage at 13:41 has Pinkie Pie's EXACT hair, not just a pink curly mane and tail but her exact line art design for it. And then again at 20:13, that sound that the stuffed animals make when the girl lays on them is used all the time in MLP, usually when a pony smiles. The fandom has dubbed it the "pony squee". It's a stock sound, so they aren't "stealing" it per se, but as a MLP fan myself I instantly recognized it. *points at the animators* I know what you are...
also a brony and it jumpscared the shit out of me. why did they do that to my girl pinkie
Can mormons have fandoms? 😂
Mormon bronies actually makes so much sense...
@@Scarletdevilish Any Christian denomination can be considered fandom when you think about it. They theory craft and fight over what is considered cannon. With Mormons its "What if Jesus went to Americaa?!?!11"
It all makes sense now...
I grew up Mormon (current a gay and trans atheist). Honestly, it ruined my life. I got baptized at either eight or ten I think. But I remember PRAYING for god to ‘fix’ me when I realized I was queer. It made my health worsen by a lot. I remember when my first dog died I had literally HALLUCINATED and thought I saw him after he died, I told people and church and they told me it was a vision from god to show me he was okay in heaven. Yet no one game a damn an eight year old was hallucinating about dead creatures. I honestly never understood any of the religious stuff, but waking up early every Sunday and forced to go to church for around 3-4 hours was horrid. I was eight and I was supposed to fast on Sundays. EIGHT! I was lucky my grandma gave me pretzels to eat during the singing section. I also remember it being VERY racist. We were coloring these little Jesus pictures and this one kid made Jesus black, of course, I was sheltered due to the church and didn’t care much but I could hear the disdain in the adults voice and how hesitant they were to tell another kid that they could draw Jesus to be whatever skin color they wanted. But the church was overrun with white people to say the least. I was also scared of saying ‘hell’ when forced to read the Book of Mormon. I was scared to say one word, because I thought I was scared I would go to hell if I said it because it was a ‘bad word’. I’m so glad my grandma stopped taking me at around nine. If I stayed any longer I would’ve been a completely different person, and likely not in a good way.
Okay liberal
@@Suunalt ohhh wow so original. I am a liberal, so? You act like it’s an insult. You completely ignored the purpose of my comment in point out how crappy the churches are, or at least how the one I went to was.
i also hallucinated my dog after he died! grief does bizarre things to your brain. I hope you can heal from your mormon-induced trauma
Im sorry you went through that
@@Suunalt being a liberal shows human empathy, of which you lack.
Kind of a long rant, but im an ex mormon. Just left the church a few years ago. And i have to say, teens are shamed way more than kids when you're a mormon. Youre not allowed to date until you're 16, and no sex until after marriage. But if you weren't interested in either sex or dating, you were treated like a freak. I still remember vividly having a crush on a guy at 15, and at a party we went outside to hang out (nothing bad, literally just nerding out and talking). The bishop ended up catching us, and i will never forget when he firmly put a hand on my shoulder and told me "You shouldnt be dating at your age. You should probably repent and reread the bible. You obviously haven't been studying". I was so humiliated and i hadnt even done anything wrong. Also for some reason, mormons hate introverts. I used to get yelled at during activities when i just wanted to sit in the corner and read
I agree with the part saying teens are being shamed more than kids. Fr I felt guilty a lot of the time for having any sexual desires and especially for having sex before getting married. I also got pregnant and yes we did use protection, but I legitimately remember when I managed to become temple worthy I felt wayyy better. I believe that the bishop was mostly concerned for me though since I was pregnant. I’m not sure how different it would be if I just broke the law of chastity and didn’t get pregnant though. I truly did feel much happier after completely repenting and getting my temple recommend. Getting my patriarchal blessing really has helped me as well. I’m just telling you my experience here and I promise I’m not trying to get you back in the church your choice is your choice we all have agency.
Also your bishop was pretty rude
I feel the introvert part but I think the extroverts in my ward haven’t been too weird towards the introverts in my ward we’ve been pretty chill
I'm not a mormon but I was shamed for being an introvert in boyscouts. I unfortunately think that's a lot of adults, religion aside. I was weird and being a problem for wanting to read instead of playing games or singing with the group, which I just never enjoyed all that much.
It was so annoying and distressing to grow up as an evangelical autistic kid. The cultists try to be extra touchy-feely to bring people in, but this kind of behavior usually just repulses me so much i can even call it disgust. A lot of eye contact, comically large smiles and loud overly cheery voices, and all the damn hugs and holding hands and loud praying, singing, chanting, and pastors thinking anyone will only gaf about what they say if they're screaming at the top of their lungs, and all the "Don't you want to go to sunday's school to see your little friends, your brothers and sisters? 😃😃😃". Church is ironically like hell on earth.
Ex-mormon here! The Sabbath day short was kind of weird for me, too. The "keeping the sabbath day holy" rules have always been loose and confusing. Like, my family never went shopping or watched non-religious movies on sundays, but we did watch America's Funniest Home Videos on sundays. I think going to a friend's birthday party would be just fine?? I'm not sure tho, it's honestly different for every family.
I remember watching the third short with some mormon missionaries while I was on my way out of the church. I asked them how I'm supposed to know the difference between my own feelings and the Holy Ghost, so they showed me the video. I actually found it very helpful. I felt peace when I accepted my transgeender friend, and I didn't feel peace when I read the racist stuff in the Book of Mormon. I felt peace about leaving mormonism.
I would bet the church would prefer the stricter interpretation of Sabbath, but I'm an ExJW so I can only assume. I know from a JW perspective that's how it would work even if it's not explicitly spelled out. For instance JWs weren't really supposed to listen to heavy metal, they did lots of articles on how bad it was but never specifically forbade it. They left it as a "conscience matter," but it was obvious what they wanted. I ignored what they wanted and grew up listening to old school thrash metal in the late 80s and early 90s. It was one of the few things my parents didn't get fanatical about so I took advantage of that.
I grew up SDA and that similar to how many Adventists keep the Sabbath, though some are a bit liberal with it and are fine with doing things like going out to restaurants after the mid-day service. My family was semi-strict on most occasions but would allow me to do non-religious activities if we were away from home visiting non Adventist family members.
@@jjayjae_ Funny how you mention the sabbath! Does anyone in your group keep the Sabbath year? One year out of every seven is for rest! How about the Passover Sabbath?
@@timmy18135 They essentially believed that the requirement to keep any ceremonial sabbath outside of the 7th day Sabbath in the 4th commandment was nullified by the crucifixion.
Birthday parties would generally be viewed as fine on sundays if they were for your family members, and you didn't do much more than eat cake and open presents, and maybe watch a movie.
I met this one light-skinned Cherokee woman who grew up Mormon. Her skin wasn't naturally light, she was so obsessed with skin lightening products in her teen years because of the religion. The church wasn't overtly white supremacist but it's strongly implied in many ways that white is better. Many dark skinned children growing up Mormon have this same dysphoria about themselves. And she now needs to always avoid sunlight because of the damage.
Wait I love Mormonism now?
Dang, that’s depressing. I hope she doesn’t feel that way anymore. No color is better than another.
@@huguesdepayens807 You don't have to convert to religion if you want skin damage, dude. Just use tanning beds excessively.
@@lillybanuelos3978 Nah white is better
actual mormon here, i grew up in hawaii and as you know, its a cultural melting pot. tons of asians and islanders went and no one thinks this way
I ACTUALLY DIED LAUGHING WHEN HE SLID INTO THE TWIN TOWERS 💀💀💀💀
One thing I will say, I do appreciate this cartoons approach to it. Miguel and Bridget have a nice little conversation around the 12:20 mark and it sent me straight back to childhood. "Next year, my birthdays NOT on a Sunday!" We LOVE a supportive friend who honors their friends comfort. I do like that a lot.
agreed!
Yes
Yeah fr, I guess there’s that
Yeah if it was a JW cartoon Caleb would've given her one of their brochures on why birthdays are soooo bad
"I felt empty" made me feel so sad :( I'm an exmo and it's just SO RELATABLE AND I JUST WANNA HUG HIM AND LET HIM GO BACK TO THE PARTY
I had a Muslim friend invite me to her birthday party on a Sunday and I had to tell her I couldn’t go because I was Mormon, she didn’t have a lot of friends so it made her feel bad. I really regret not going she was a great friend
@@sporkles7427that sucks
yeah same
@@sporkles7427Muslims believe birthdays are satanic bro that’s how I know you’re lying 😂😂
@@manakotaupauu but she literally invited me to a birthday party?
Was that Pinkie Pie pulling Sophia's baptism carriage? lol
Mormon bronies confirmed
looks like she's got a lot of explaining to do on judgement day for partying too hard, probably did it on a Sunday too. rookie mistake.
I SAW THAT SHIT TOO
I SAW THAT TOO
I NOTICED THAT!!!!! Looking closely, the mane and tail are ripped STRAIGHT from the cartoon. Same identical swirls in the tail, same curve at the tip of her mane (I would know😭)
This is why I'm not religious
it feels like mockery out of jews to call Sunday a Sabbath damn
The whole pretending to be Jews thing in religions from early mid nineteenth century USA seems like mocking Jews. They don't mean it that way, but it's cringy as heck.
mormons also took the oil lamp story from the jewish... finding this out recently as an ex mormon feels horrific. i can't imagine what else was taken
It's all from replacement theology.
If you think that’s bad, wait till you find out Mormons systemically baptised holocaust victims by proxy after their deaths (including Anne frank)
@@GeminiDoodle as a Jew they WHAT
I'm a Christian and my birthday fell on a Sunday this year, my family still had a birthday party for me.🥳🎉🎉
Yeah , for us christians it's so different , we actually have free will to do stuff on Sundays like work or birthday parties
It blew my mind that JW's can't have b-days. Or that Mormons aren't supposed to do anything on sunday. As a Christian, I couldn't wrap my head around it. Now I understand it and am so glad I'm Christian.
As far as I know, the only rule for Sunday is that it's a day of rest in Christianity. So my family never saw issues with doing things on Sunday since my mom's version of resting was cleaning and mine was watching cartoons.
We still went to church on those days, but it wasn't forced if someone felt ill or wanted to do something else. Like, if I didn't feel like being near people, I could just stay home on Sunday and watch Veggie Tales instead and just watch the recorded sermon later if I felt like it.
@@Doub1eSpark love this and i feel like this is how sunday SHOULD be seen in the mormon church too :/
@@colbyhunter4622 as someone who grew up mormon, JW stuff still shocks me cuz i feel like it takes the strict rules of Mormons and says "Bet"
My friend is in a mormon household and he isnt allowed to watch any movies on sunday that arent Christian themed, and he can't leave the house 😭
That is parents taking the doctrine just a little to far.
Oh good heavens I'm a Mormon and this is too far, like loosen up a little bit. You can leave the house and keep the sabbath
As a mormon I can say you can leave the house
@@itistheway6893at least it’s the JW, they don’t allow anything, at least Mormon kids got the right to do anything wasnt sinful on weekdays
Bruh that sucks I’m Mormon and I’m allowed to watch and do stuff on Sundays
As a former Catholic, I was baptized as an infant! Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglicans, Lutherans, Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Moravians, and United Protestants do infant baptism as well. In Catholicism, baptizing infants is based off the idea that babies are born with original sin from the moment of conception, and thus they need baptism to cleanse them to become adopted children of God. Though one isn't required to be an infant to be baptized in Catholicism as there is no age limit! And not every denomination does baptism the same way with dunking. In Catholicism, baptism is also valid when it is administered by affusion or pouring water over the head. Sprinkling is also valid. And the LDS Church aren't the only Christians that observe Sabbath, many other Christians do whether it's on Saturday or a Sunday! And blue laws have remained a thing in different places in the US for Sundays, like Bergen County, NJ not allowing stores to sell electronics, clothing, and furniture on Sundays...in a county where NJ's major malls are. Bergen County's blue law is moreso a state law that all other counties have opted out of.
In Mandaeism (which is its own ethnoreligion but they follow John the Baptist), they practice frequent full immersion baptism (or masbuta) to connect to the World of Light and for forgiveness. The name "Mandaean" comes from the Mandaic word manda, meaning "to have knowledge". The Classical Mandaic language is an Eastern Aramaic variety! The Mandaeans are originally from the southern Levant region but later migrated to the Mesopotamian marshes of what's now Iraq, though the majority have since left Iraq because of the Iraq War. They are among the earliest religious groups to practice baptism, and they were also among the earliest adherents of Gnosticism!
Ex Mormon here. It's believed that age 8 is when a child can start understanding right from wrong. I was born and raised into the religion but baptized at 10 yrs old, as i wasn't really forced or pressured into it. Before my younger sister (8 yrs) and I were baptized, we would have meetings with missionaries who taught us what a baptism is and the significance of it. So we weren't thrown into it blind, and we had to give consent to it too.
The church in my area was pretty chill, like during the summer when the young women/men groups (kids aged 12 - 18) were invited to one of the Elders' lake house to swim and water tube. And i never felt shamed or guilt triped when i started going to church less and less. I could have just been lucky enough to have been raised in an area that had a good Mormon church.
bruh critical thinking starts developing at 15 earliest, its not ok to expose children to any religion,sadly its the common norm worldwide
Yeah, my parents never allowed any swimming on Sunday, or even friends over.
@@bluemurloc5896Critical thinking doesn't "start developing" at age 15 and older. That's some big fat BS right there. It isn't about "critical thinking" it is about the developmental stage of the child and the fact that they don't have enough life experience or physical/mental/emotional maturity to make big decisions that they don't know enough about and how it's going to effect their life. You clearly have no idea wtf you're talking about.
I'd say for me at least not getting baptized at 8 was never an option. They always said that it's a choice, but in the end if you didn't do it, everybody would have been worried and I felt like it would be socially unacceptable not to get baptized even though I didn't really believe in it.
@@bluemurloc5896 what the hell are you even talking about? When you’re 15 you barely have any knowledge and are very immature so how is critical thinking start at 15?
There’s nothing wrong with exposing your child to religion at 15 or below how come evolution and atheism is acceptable by religion isn’t?
You are definitely one of those atheist that just doesn’t like religion and is very close minded I can tell.😂
Which is worse, being baptized at birth or being baptized at 8? I think 8 is worse because if you are baptized at birth, you can’t remember it and you obviously didn’t consent.
100% agreed
I was baptized at birth...yet I did my first Communion till I was like 10, I personally didn't have any issues as I grew up as a normal kid and even had cake, candies, and presents after the celebration (as I was a ten-year-old, it was like a little birthday, I remember the day fondly to be honest), so...and yeah, I have no memory of my baptized, only photos...
@@rachelmariecaberapacheco7942it's odd to me that a huge religious experience and practice that is said to physically and mentally change a person for life (and get a new identity depending on religion), is done to literally babies and treated like a little kid birthday party.
@@ClownHoundII I can understand, I think this idea of baptize babies was a way to introduce a new member into the comunity, I mean...I think Jews do something similar with the circumcision and later on the Bar Mitzvah with boys
being baptized at birth kinda sounds worse, because for the same reason. at least at 8, you can consent and stuff
4:29 To answer your question: yes, mormons can't do much of anything on a Sunday (especially things like birthday parties, sports games, shopping of ANY kind, etc.) There are plenty of stories of people who have refused hanging out with friends or participating in sports championships ONLY BECAUSE it was a Sunday. And unlike this cartoon, any mormon parents would have put their foot down and not allow the kid to go.
21:27 EXACTLY! You hit the nail right on the head
I'm an ex-mormon who watches your videos to get some perspective from the exjw side, so it was great to see something like this!
I'm pretty sure that god to muslims is the same as jews, christains, and mormons they just think differently about how we worship them but for other religions I don't know.
edit: except jews don't think jesus is a god.
What happens if a woman has to give birth? That’s alot of work, and the doctor and nurses? What do they do in that case?? Watch??
@whitedragoness23 doctors/ nurses are allowed to work on Sundays but I think that's one of the few exceptions.
What does what I first said have to contribute to this conversation? I'm thinking I replied on the wrong comment. I'm confused by myself.
just because it was that way for you doesn't mean it was that way for all lds people, most parents don't "put the foot down" actually most lds parents I've grown up around (about 16) let their children date before 16, swim and go to parties on Sunday, even play video games on Sunday
I think some of those things don't necessarily invite the spirit. But I am not the judge and that's what the churches standard is as well
Mormon here. It really depends on the parents. We try to use Sunday as a rest day and we try to keep the spirit on that day. If I had an invitation for a birthday party on a Sunday they would let me. But everyone’s experience is different. Where I live, the church is pretty chill.
As a Christian, I'm glad I wasn't required to do nonsense like this.
Amen man. Hurts me tho that other religions get spiritually hurt like that :(
You should be thankful that you were in born in dark age…
@@stars_of_destinyBeing raised Christian also hurts lol, it's not "other religions"
Hey I’m Christian too I’m glad I’m born a Christian because after seeing what he and Norman kids go through everyday is sad
I’m a none denominational Christian. I feel for these Christians still, but i’m also glad we didn’t have to go through what they did.
As someone who wasn’t raised with any religion, I can confirm it’s wild to hear your friends talk about religious stuff. Once (when ai was like 7 or 8) told this kid I’ve never been to church, and he was so genuinely shocked. He was like, “GHASP you have to tell your parents to take you to church!!” I was just like, nah I’m good dude. It was always crazy to me how people believed that stuff. And I believed I was a Harry Potter style witch, soo that’s saying something
It's not crazy
Same! Im an athiest and sometime when I was 6-8 the first time I learned about religion as a concept was when a christian friend begin explaining heaven and hell to me by showing me a short cartoon. My first reaction was to tell her cartoons arent real so she didnt have to worry about it 😭😂
i had the opposite reaction 😭 a kid told me they didnt believe in god/didnt go to sunday church and i was like “wait… you can do that?” and i basically decided i wasnt religious anymore 😭 i was like 7 or 8 i think?
Upon learning about religion I took the completely normal path of pushing it to the side to study way to much history. And after studying both I can confirm history is still more interesting.
@@tiffanywyatt5137 Would you say believing in hinduist deities is not crazy?
I was raised catholic. When I was like 12 I sprained my ankle at an Easter service and someone came up to me and prayed over my ankle
I mean that makes sense
@@_Siloam_ what makes sense?
@@pinkpunther That they prayed over your ankle
@Siloam_ yeah... it was kind of awkward bc they touched it and like I didn't know what to do bc it was someone I didn't know
..Thats why at my church, they have to ask first.
I kinda like this Sophia, so much potential to outgrow this religion...
Edit: disregard everything I said in part two. They don't make the characters consistent, do they?
Edit again: yeah, Sophia still has some potential...
Mormon!Sophia be acting like a light switch, yo.
I was convinced to become a Mormon when Miguel said that he feels "calm and ready for the week" on Sunday night (9:19).
I CAME LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT RIGHT WHEN THAT HAPPENED LMAOO
Don't fall for it and convert. You're not just guilt tripped into keeping Sunday Sabbath, you're also guilt tripped into lots of other meetings every single day of the week. Stay VERY far away. Fuck the mormon church I wish I could get those years of my childhood back.
at 14:16 I just realized that the horse's mane and tail is straight up traced from Pinkie Pie's, I compared the photos, and, yep, it's most *definitely* traced. :/
Pinkie Pie would hate being there
@@Madjichen she would lol
might not even be traced it’s literally just pinkie pie’s mane pasted on😭
@@-PIXELATED- honestly yeah, it looks recolored though
im so glad someone commented this because i was about to LMAO
"I didn't think a leg could bend like that"-24:04
Gotta say despite of it´s messages this cartoon has some very funny reactions and dialogues
I feel the same about Veggie Tales, except Veggie Tales is actually animated well, like INCREDIBLY well for the time and medium
Fr
@@N_IRLwait is veggietales religious propaganda? 😭
@@jecan5536 Yes, every episode starts and ends with a lesson about a Bible verse and there's usually stuff about Jesus during the episode too
Literally though 😂 once we watched in Sunday school and everyone was cracking up
JW has much better cartoons man. JW has free laborers, I guess it makes a difference.
Yeah. It's actually kind of off putting.
Like JWs discourage high paying jobs and college, yet they in put a lot more money and know how to do their cartoon. Based on appearance that is. I'm no expert.
I mean if the 2d looks good there's nothing wrong with it, but I've seen better animation than this done by novices on the Internet just for kicks.
@@jeremyblade7561 It’s epic game Unreal engine…
Yeah, but the Mormans have a freakin school... can't they get some BYU students to make something better than this. I mean Studio C is often funny and well made after all (yes, even outside of Scott Sterling, I used to work at a Utah school, don't @ me). Don't they have any animators who can work on this?
@@endersdragon34 Mormons are smarter than JW, it’s harder to deceive them I guess?
I think the art quality is better, but I think this one has better writing 😂
Hey ex-mormon here. I did not want to be baptized- at all. But the social pressure (I lived in Utah at the time) and the overwhelming guilt is to much to handle. 8 is not a good age to chose. Its a good age to put so much pressure on it's almost importable not do do it.
I didnt feel it as pressure as much as it was "its just what you do when you are 8". Being in a community in Utah that was 100% mormon it was as tangible as getting the choice to go to the next grade with your friends or not or choosing to graduate high school. Id surmise from extrapolating what you said that your family were converts or not as submerged in a mormon community in the suburbs of Utah like I was, because all of us that were in this kind of mormon upbringing had never felt "pressured", that was usually felt from kids whos family were converts and the kids had not been in a mormon home and had been going since birth.
Going on a mission you might feel it as pressure but even then living in Utah, in a community where everyone is LDS, there was a bit of "going on a mission is just what you do after high school". The problem is when everybody feels that way and everybody is leaving everybody gets that sense of "this is just what you do"
The kid literally was just talking about how they want to go to his friend's birthday party instead of church, and the parents get disappointed when, after being told he has the choice to do so, goes to his friend's birthday party? Like, what were they expecting to happen when he clearly stated his intentions???
I have a Mormon friend.
They have a very strange relationship with water; he hasn’t told me a whole lot about it but it’s something to do with believing that Missionaries tend to have bad experiences travelling by boat?
God only knows what’s going on in that cult, but to their credit they’re at least very nice people.
Yeah, I mean my family on my Mom’s side is Mormon, and my brother joined a few years ago (but on his own), and there’s really never been any problems. I guess maybe my Mom, brother, and entire family just were in chill wards or something. It’s been really beneficial for my brother being a missionary, so while I agree that it’s all a scam it hasn’t hurt me or my family at all.
the water will make them gay (note: they niceness is on average very surface level and there are people who are genuine in their niceness but boy what goes on in that cult is an actual mess)
I'm an ex mormon. as far as i know they convince missionaries that water is the devil so they don't go to pool activities and get turned on from seeing women in bikinis
Ex Mormon and former missionary here. Basically, Joseph Smith and some missionaries claimed to have a revelation that the devil travels in the waters. If you want to look it up, it’s D&C 61. This is the first I’ve heard regular members following this, but it doesn’t surprise me.
Also it’s often applied only to missionaries to tell them not to swim, but the scripture itself also includes boating, which I know many missions that are only accessible by boat…
No joke I went on a young men's summer camp thing and was forged to go white water rafting. Of two hundred 14-18 year Olds only three fell. I was two of them. Also I can't fucking swim🙃
I’m ex Catholic and I was baptised at 2, but I was still allowed to wear bikinis to the pool or beach, go to a innocent birthday party any day (as long as I didn’t miss school), wear shorts, and I wasn’t locked inside the entire Sunday.
Also ex-Catholic. I was baptized when I was a baby (It feels weird to me that Mormons and JWs do it much later considering how early I did my baptism) and from what I remember, yeah. We could still do stuff on Sundays as long as we didn’t miss mass, since that was only around 2-3 hours at most and usually took place in the mornings anyways. I thought that Catholicism was a strict religion but seeing these Mormon and JW cartoons makes me realize that the kids have it much worse than I did.
@@Snorlax- It varies from family to family and many don't care if you go play with friends. The focus is on not working because of the part about, "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.” So basically don't do any hard labor. It's a day of rest. And as far as the baptism it seems more odd to put a baby through something they are not old enough to understand. It means more to let them wait and do it when they are old enough to make the decision themselves and understand exactly what the process entails and means from a spiritual standpoint.
Really sad, return to God
@@fabril2673 No ❤️
@@Snorlax-Yes❤️ *
As an ex-Mormon, the second she mentioned birthday I knew it would be on Sunday. I can’t tell you how many stories they tell kids about people having to make the decision not to do something on Sunday and then being *blessed* when they choose to do the *right* thing by doing NOTHING but church on Sundays (even if by not doing something on Sunday they hurt others)
Also, Mormon kids CAN make friends outside of church but it’s strongly discouraged, especially in Utah
While I'm not into religion, I still appreciate the architecture of religious structures! That's the Salt Lake Temple at 2:30 and it is the largest Latter-day Saint temple by floor area with over 253,000 square feet! Dedicated in 1893, it is the sixth temple completed by the church, requiring 40 years to complete, and the fourth temple built since the Mormon exodus from Nauvoo, Illinois, in 1846. On the west side of the temple the Big Dipper appears, which represents how the priesthood can help people find their way to heaven as the constellation helped travelers find the North Star. On the east side of the temple are "clouds raining down" representing the way God has continued revelation and still speaks to man "like the rains out of Heaven".
The beehive symbol (which appears on the Utah flag) appears on external doors and doorknobs and symbolizes the thrift, industry, perseverance, and order of the Mormon people. Above each external door and doorknob appears the "hand clasp," which is a representation of covenants that are made within temples or brotherly love. The top of the temple is a golden statue of Angel Moroni, originally by sculptor Cyrus E. Dallin. It symbolizes the angel mentioned in Revelation 14:6 that will come to welcome in the Second Coming of Christ. The original blueprint drawings intended the angel to be wearing temple ceremonial clothing like the angel on the Nauvoo Temple, but Paris-trained sculptor Dallin's 12.5 feet (3.8 m) statue wears a crown instead of a temple cap that included a bright light which created a halo effect at night. As a result of an earthquake in March 2020, the statue's trumpet broke, and a new statue was installed in April 2024.
i can confirm those facts are true i have gone to that temple
kim jong un ??
If you're so fascinated with religious architecture, why don't you let religion into North Korea?
Jokes aside, the symbolism and stuff is pretty cool. Joseph Smith studied freemasonry, eastern religions, and the occult (I don't think that's a bad thing, I have no opinion on it.) but a lot of the symbols and the ideas of using complex metaphorical symbols in general came from that.
The largest one is actually the one in Washington DC
@@snakecityproductions5906 This is false.
Salt Lake City = 253,015 square feet
DC = 160,000 square feet
While the DC temple is the TALLEST at 288 feet, that doesn't mean it's the LARGEST.
Fun fact from an ex-mormon: They also do "baptizims for the dead" where someone stands in place of a literal dead person and get's baptized. From what I remember being taught, this is meant to save the spirit of the deceased from purgatory. Unrelated to that, once I was no longer mormon, my friends and I joked rather frequently about it, with one of the main jokes being "on the day of our lord and savior? Why I could never." referring to the fact that you're not allowed to do pretty much anything on sundays.
Oh dude I love doing baptisms for the dead. Yes it sounds creepy but it's a really important thing we do! Also we get to go inside the temple which is cool :)
@@poptatochisps342 I agree! The inside of the temple is pretty cool!
@@poptatochisps342true man idk why people think this thing is so “weird” or “cultish”. It’s simply our beliefs and shouldn’t be ridiculed and we deserve respect just as everyone else does.
isnt saving souls from purgatory a good thing tho?
@@manakotaupauu it doesn't sound weird when you are born in to it. go read up on JW doctrine or read about heaven's gate. that feeling of "oh weird" you get? that's everyone else looking in to mormonism
I have a LOT to say about this as someone who was once a Mormon kid. But yeah, in my ward anyway, we weren't allowed to associate with non-mormons unless it was to convert them and we were encouraged to bring them to church. They also pressured my mom into divorcing my non-mormon dad and marrying someone in the church instead. She didn't do that, of course
Ok that’s kinda crappy ngl. I think that’s more about the people in your ex ward but srsly that’s hypocritical as heck
Wait what? I'm a Mormon and I've never heard of anything like this. Maybe it was just a bad ward. The church teaches us to be accepting of others.
@@poptatochisps342bro fr we were taught the opposite to accept ppl and be friends with everyone different from us
Sooooo, pretty much jw lol. When my mother divorced my father, they tried to pressure my grandma into not talking to her ever again 💀 they are sooo extra, they even make a point of saying you shouldn't even share a table with a dissociated person.
That happened to my mom. My dad was a nonmember and she was always making him feel like shit for not being s member and a worthy priesthood holder.
I wasn’t Mormon but was raised Christian and was baptized at either 7 or 8. I was very confused with the whole process and didn’t want to do it but felt pressured to “make god happy” I’d pray every night and did my best to be a “good Christian” but even will all the work I put in as a kid nothing seemed to work. I was 12 when I started verbally fighting my parents on leaving me at home and that I was tired of going to church which made them double down and that I “needed church even more now” I’m 18 now and luckily haven’t been to church in years
My family is Christian, and when I was 12 I went to my mom (step mom, long story but I call her mom) and dad and told them I wanted to get baptised. And they were really happy for me. But then I started to doubt it, and I changed my mind. And I told them that I had changed my mind, that I felt like that i wasn't doing it for myself, that I was doing it to make them happy. And I wasn't forced into it. To this day I haven't been baptised, and they still love me all the same. I'm so glad I had parents like that in my life, and I feel so bad for the kids that are around the same age that get forced into it.
25:32 MY JAW LITERALLY HIT THE FLOOR I WAS NOT EXPECTING HIM TO SAY “GETTING A BAD FEELING COMES FROM GOD” WHAATT… all feelings come from god guys trust. 💀
I bet it didn't, dib.
@@notreallydavid shut up David
Okay, I went in all skeptical, but at 20:16 I was converted, cause there ain't no way she was cutting that carrot like that without spirit magic
11:44 so your telling me mormons can’t have fun on sundays but can eat cake on a flip flop 💀
3:10 I became a Mormon when Miguel hit the twin towers, you’re telling me it’s possible to learn the power of flight?
I was raised mormon and my parents and all the people around me didn't have any trouble going places on sundays, the most important part was going to church, it didn't matter if you went over to a chill party afterwards, we often went over to my gran's house and had lunch there with my family members, you know, family reunions. Why are the US branches so extremist 💀latin america, or at least argentina's lds churches, were so chill lmao
LDS from Japan here. I think it's mostly a Utah/Idaho thing. They really seem to be living in a bubble
@@LGVRhin-Rhone They really do, i'm always really surprised to hear about how stuff is there, it's quite different from where i come from.
I live in the US and, at least among my family, Utah and Idaho lds are… very weird. More worried about the image they give off than actual conversion. I don’t know why they are in such a bubble and are so strange tbh bc my parents never treated me like that
@@LGVRhin-Rhone literally this
I’m a Mormon from the US and I don’t live in Idaho or Utah I do have grandparents that do and I can confirm that my Utah grandparents are much more conservative and resistive than my grandma in Idaho who is very chill and not that conservative. The youth (at least where I am) are personally a pretty good group of Mormons, I have one friend who is a little conservative than most of us but other than that the youth in my ward are gay, accepting, talk about mental health, and for every youth I’ve met their goal was to just treat others like how god would treat them
This is called spiritual abuse. Look it up when you guys have time. He feels empty because he didn’t follow the guidelines like what he’s just have fun and he can still have the spirit of peace with him like bro huh 💀10:39 and 9:12
I’m surprised they haven’t said anything to the kid about having a crush on a non Mormon. I’m pretty sure they aren’t allowed to have serious relationships with anyone outside the faith.
I’m a Mormon and u can technically marry a non Mormon. It may be kinda strange but u can still technically do it lol
@@Tacoblu3 Not if you want to get to the highest level of heaven.
@@hydra70 yeah ik
Ain't no way the Mormons have a Caleb and Sophia 😂
Edit: OMG they do. They do! Are these things monetized? Can the Watchtower sue? Bridgette-gate? This is insane. I do wish that it explained the culture a little better, but I suppose Caleb and Sophia literally do the same thing
Can you do a video on this cartoon?
@@Jackass56 I'd need a Mormon expert, but I'll see what I can do
@@DarthMagogDarth Magog ex-Mo collab?? 👀
It's interesting finding you in the comments section.
Time for a Darth Magog Mormon analysis
I feel like Dan Schneider would want to eat that cake that fell on the flip-flop.
FR
he’ll lick it all up too
I can see that.
And lick it 😣
3:29 Little tidbit from an ex-Mormon: While Mormon kids are not required to go out in service, they are pressured to create “missionary moments” in their day-to-day life. Basically this means telling non-Mormon friends about the “gospel” and inviting them to activities or church. It might mean creating an awkward social situation (refusing to watch an R-rated movie, turning down Sunday situations, asking people not to swear or take the Lord’s name in vain around you, etc) and then turning it into a preaching moment. I found all of this to be terribly awkward, so I usually didn’t do it, but I felt guilty about it. Anyways, it’s actually encouraged for Mormons to be very friendly with everyone, especially non-Mormons, as it creates “missionary moment” opportunities. I actually used to go to church camp with a couple of non-Mormons (none of them ever converted, thank god, they just liked to come along for the activities).
27:48 Okay I finished watching the video and I see that you kind of addressed this. While I genuinely enjoyed my friendships with my nonbeliever friends, I do feel like the only reason why these friendships were encouraged was to convert people.
As a fellow ex-Mormon I can attest to this. It’s framed as some kind of service to that person because they don’t get into Heaven Prime if they aren’t Mormon. Also, older kids and adults are pressured into harassing members if they don’t show up to church or activities. Call, text, show up at their houses specifically to try and get them to go back to church until the person tells you to stop. My youth group did this to a pair of girls that I was friends with at the time and they both told us to leave them alone. I didn’t understand why they didn’t want to see us until I was in my 20s and also trying to leave the church, and my family was on the receiving end of that.
literally this
Yeah when I was kid I just felt depressed and guilty that I couldn’t muster up enough courage to talk to classmates about the gospel, I felt horrible that I wasn’t doing anything just because I was to afraid of the awkward interaction. I only got out of it when I left the Mormon church and distanced myself aka being a normal person
I’m glad someone brought it up. I have a sister who, when she was young, had a friend who I could see she was clearly trying to convert. Couple years later I heard that the friend wasn’t coming to church anymore; clearly she wasn’t actually interested in joining, so my sister stopped inviting her over and hanging out with her altogether. It was obvious to me that my sister wouldn’t be friends with her unless she was willing to join.
Also my wife who is now ex-Mormon even confirmed that this is a thing that they are encouraged to do.
Edit: forgot to clarify that I haven’t been Mormon since I was 8 (mom pulled me out right before I was supposed to be babtized thank God) but my sister is.
As a former Mormon it’s so weird to hear others comments. I grew up in it and it just was so normal. Whenever I hear surprise or questions I want to answer them all, but it would take way too long lol. It wasn’t until I was an adult and talking to my Christian in-laws that I discovered all of these things were abnormal! To be honest, it was the South Park episode about Mormonism that finally opened up my eyes 😂
im an ex mormon and that first part is very accurate to how being a mormon is. I feel for that kid.
Just trying to live your life, and feeling guilty and depressed for it. feeling bad for shopping/working/going out and doing stuff on sundays, getting told you'll go to hell for drinking coffee, watching your favorite show or playing your favorite game that just so happens to be M rated. Shamed for wearing shorts, even just in the house. Youre a bad person if you swear, are gay, trans, pretty much anything they'll find something to criticize. Mormons preach not to judge others but they are some of the most judgy people out there. Having been raised that way i found myself very easily offended and just a depressed and miserable person all around.
Leaving the church was so freeing. I fell in love with a man who isnt mormon, he doesnt at all follow their rules. He makes me so happy, more than i ever thought i could be. I'm no longer depressed and i genuinely have a love for life that i used to never have. It's hard to break out of mormon habits, i still get nervous about wearing slightly more showy clothes, or about swearing in front of others.... but I'm recovering from their indoctrination. I love my husband just the way he is and if i didnt break away from mormonisum i probably wouldve never given him a chance. We have a son we'll be meeting soon and i couldnt be happier!
LDS is well known for child abuse. It's sad.
I think they relaxed some rules lately like they’re not super specific on how many ear piercings you can get or whatever
It's more like a very strict company.
I am so glad you were able to get out of there and lead a happier life! Best of luck with your kiddo ^-^
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This reminds me of when I went to SLC on a Sunday. Don’t ever visit Salt Lake City on Sundays, the only thing to do is go to a zoo. They fr are forbidden to do anything on Sunday
It's actually surprising coming to Utah and seeing that like half of all shops and restaurants and establishments are closed on Sundays. At least Sundays are a fantastic day to go out on the roads, considering nobody leaves their house except for church lmao
You can visit Temple Square, the biggest tourist attraction in Salt Lake City. It is definitely open on Sundays! And visit parks, and hike. Nowadays most stores, restaurants, and amusement areas are open on Sundays, too. But it is true that some are not.
..Ah, so they're isolating you guys.
@@Short_n_sweet1? All the brew pubs are definitely open Sundays. And it's more like many people would like a break and a chance to go to church instead of working. But many have to work on Sunday now.
The reason Mormons don’t swim on Sunday is because of some old folk doctrine-it is believed that the devil has power in the water, especially on Sundays.
I believe that some FLDS Mormons(fundamentalists) aren’t allowed to swim EVER because of this rule.
We don't believe that he controls it all the time
What the heck are you talking about? The only reason we don't do things on Sunday is because we want to respect the sabbath.
@@paracosmic4124 Because it’s a “folk doctrine” it varies between Mormon communities. FLDS don’t swim at all, and they sometimes think satan has power over it all of the time. MLDS (mainstream mormon church) members, if they are even aware of the legend consciously, generally think that it’s only on Sundays.
As a former Mormon, it was so programmed into me that swimming on Sunday was an absolute no-no that I hardly questioned it at all. It was only after I started to do actual research and deconstruct that I realized how nonsensical and wild that rule was.
@@sparrow737 One of our most important ordinances (baptism) has a lot to do with water. I don't think that would be the case if we believed that Satan controlled water.
@@paracosmic4124That water has been blessed though so Satan would no longer have power over it. And a baptism pool is different than a body of water in nature that can be dangerous and unpredictable, or a pool for fun where people dress far outside of typical mormon standards. A quick google search led to me finding several mormons asking questions about swimming online, with the phrase "Satan controls the waters" repeated several times, even on ldsdaily, a mormon website. Clearly it's a tradition many mormons grew up believing even if you didn't.
i wear bikinis and halter tops, im such a sinner
eat. the. cupcake. there's nothing sinful about enjoying a cupcake. and any religion that makes you feel like shit for eating a cupcake is not one that I want to belong to.
In the Catholic Church, the only two days in which Miguel would not be allowed to eat that cupcake are on Ash Wednesday (a day of penance in preparation for Easter Sunday) and Good Friday (the anniversary of Jesus's crucifixion). Both are days of Fasting (only one full meal and two light meals on each day, no snacks or desserts) and Abstinence (no eating the flesh of land animals). Any other day of the year (yes, even Sundays) is fine.
I think the problem is not the cupcake, it's the association with a birthday
Yea and outside of these cartoons nobody would feel guilty for eating the cupcake or going to the birthday after church
As an Ex-Mormon
1. Painting/photo of the temple in your house is very normal, and giving a temple picture as a gift is normal.
2. Its not even that 8 is the minimum age to get baptized, its looked down apon if your not baptized within a few months of your 8th birthday. Its not even a descision, its just something you do when you turn 8.
3. The lady at 20:40 has a deep (by mormon standards) V neck shirt, modesty is huge and that would probably not fly. Im surprised that they chose to dress her this way.
4. Yes it is weird that the men touch the little girl, but unfortunately still thats not even the weirdest thing men do to little girls in the church.
Great video Panda Tower!
What exactly do you mean men doing things to little girls?
@@paracosmic4124..Yeah.
@@Short_n_sweet1 yeah you agree they should elaborate or yeah that's exactly what I think it is? I've been a member my whole life and sexual abuse is not something we condone
@@paracosmic4124 ..It's just weird, I'm against all that myself but I can't say anything for my church..because I try not to be near any grown adult men.
@@paracosmic4124 ..For both reasons, I fear man.
Theres a girl in my school from a mormon family, but they are sooooo laid back, they let her be who she wants to be, how she acts, and gets to dress how she wants, she got a
Ton of friends too
Ya I’d say the Utah Mormons made them all look bad
As someone in an LDS household (currently questioning what we believe ALOT) I can tell you when Miguel realised the party was on a Sunday was so accurate
I swear growing up having to go to Church every single Sunday of my life as an awkward trans/queer AuDHD teen with little to no friends (especially none at Church) its boring.
You 'learn' the same things over and over and over and over and just end up knowing everything to it.
I get shamed for wanting to draw in class instead of hearing the same stuff over and over, for not understanding all the non literal things they say, etc.
I remember once i was in a different ward and someone said sthn abt how when we go to heaven we will all become kings and queens/gods and goddesses
I remember vividly asking "What about people who identify as a different gender that they were born with" and the two other people in class gasped and laughed
The teacher said in a different voice "Then you'll get what you were born with"
I don't get it
If you were born with something that causes u intense stress and dysphoria wouldn't it make more sense to then be what you identify as?
My dad (Narcissistic, probably has some other mental disorders, etc etc) had a very interesting abuse method because his twisted way of thinking genuinely thought he wasn't doing anything wrong
I don't know if all LDS ppl are like that (ik my mum isn't) but he had this whole messed up "common people" thing
Shaming us and often using "common" as an insult
I don't get how normal is bad
Like little things that r normal for kids to do like: not being friendly to everyone, saying "omg", etc were considered common
This is getting long so imma stop writing now lol
I feel a strange urge to have 18,000 kids and move to Utah
i was convinced to become a mormon when they made up that stupid statement about the holy ghost speaking to them on sunday after the pool party
No child should learn this. This is child abuse, teaching kids to submit to an evil dictator.
Okay liberal
God is not an evil dictator, but some religions make it seem like he threatens people to follow him, but it isn't like that at all.
@@equaIixty classic enabler talk
@@abstraction6212 I'm just saying. Don't follow him if you don't want to, but he's not an evil dictator
@@equaIixty thats the bishops jobs
21:37 exmormon here. I was taught that the peace anyone outside mormonism ever felt was not “true” peace, that happiness could only be found in the church, and that everyone else was secretly miserable but deceived by satan into thinking they were happy or at peace. Because don’t we all want social and deific pressures guilting us 24/7
Crazy how Miguel was having so much fun and felt fulfilled untill the unnecessary guilt came over and ruined a possible awesome childhood experience that he would've remembered forever☹️ Mormon guilt at such a young age...
I relate so hard to the struggle of wanting to go to a friend’s birthday party but having be on Sunday and not being able to go 🥲
As a 14 year old who really wants to leave the LDS church this is a good video 🤠👍
ur literally 14, just choose not to associate with the religion, ur old enough lmao
@@Maevbytheshadow14 is literally so young, it’s not like she’s 18+, not saying that she shouldn’t have her own opinions but at the same time wait till you’re able to move at least
As a “member”I completely agree, I have to go to seminary, and there’s some messed up stuff we had this guy talk about if you have depression it’s because you have lost your knowing of your identity that can PURELY just be a member. I have limited sleep due to all this s*^$t and I can’t wait till I move out.
Oh we both are theirians and furries too :D!
I will answer any questions if you don’t wanna read this whole thing ❤
The first one: Sundays are our “days of rest” we’re not supposed to do anything they require effort other than going to church or spending time with family. It goes back to when the first pioneers settled they would farm each day but on Sunday so they could focus their day on God. Sunday is God and family focused and that’s why we don’t go out and do activities.
13:15 so, I just wanted to talk a little about this. We’re not supposed to drink coffee because of the addicting properties and that goes with a lot of drinks. We can drink it from time to time but it’s recommended you don’t.
Second one: it’s not exactly a contract, it can’t really be defined by just contract because we are not completely bound. It’s like a promise that no matter how many times you break it you will always be forgiven. Yes the Holy Ghost gives peace and guidance. When you are baptized you are cleansed of all your sins to “start over”. The ties are just for show they’re not actually worn in the font
Third one: not necessarily, lots of things can make you feel peace but when it’s a time when the spirit is around that is when it’s from the spirit. It’s not “when you’re prayers are answered” but a feeling and sometimes a thought that what you’re doing will benefit you or others. It’s a little hard to explain.
23:29 uh oh I know where this is going. Laying hands upon a kids head is how we administer blessings with things like a preathood blessing, a calling, or the Holy Ghost. A priesthood blessing gives strength to the given individual in any hardship. The Holy Ghost can aid us in things we should do, it’s a guide and it can have us feel when we shouldn’t do something/something is wrong. We know that evryone can feel these things. We believe our whole purpose here is to live our lives and fallow the commandments no god has outright stoped a kid from getting hurt but prompted them that it wasn’t a good idea. It is kinda like a superpower though lol.
as an ex-mormon (my father realized that it was bullshit), shame and guilt were used very often. not a very good religion.
The church organisation shamed you? Or just the people who claimed to be members 😂
@@CriminallyUnderatted99% of the time it’s the member shaming themselves and then blaming it on the religion
@Number_One_malewife That's not quite what I mean, when someone is a murderer and a jew or something, that doesn't mean that his religion is to blame
My foster parents are Mormons. Even though my 18th birthday fell on a Sunday (June 24, 2018), my foster dad took me and my foster siblings out to eat before letting me know that they usually don't do anything on Sundays outside of church and rest due to their religion. Note: my foster parents are from California initially, and my foster dad is a military chief, making them a bit more "liberal" compared to others in their community (my foster mom dyes and cuts her hair in cool ways, and my foster dad is big into anime, Marvel and horror films, and punk/metal concerts). Sadly, we still don't see the world the same way as I am not religious and lean more towards democratic.
They sound awesome!
23:48 Growing up Mormon, I wasn't allowed to hang out with friends unsupervised (particularly non-Mormon or of the opposite sex), even as a teenager. I'm jealous of these kids in so many ways 😂
I always had a suspicion that the Mormons were just copying the witnesses, and this confirms it.😂
Also I like how the Mormon parents gave the child the choice to go or not. With witness parents there is no choice.
In reality, the opposite might well be true. Mormonism had been around for 50 years when the watchtower Society had been founded, so perhaps they were influenced by the whole idea of “revelation in these latter days”.
nah, the mormons i grew up with were chill. it depends on the area
@@Sotelurianisnt Mormonism inspired by free masonry?
@@timmy18135 Mormonism was inspired by a hodge podge of ideas, some of which may have been pulled from the freemasons. Particularly, some of the original temple ceremonies have been claimed to have been based on freemason rituals.
The smith family was a family of cons that moved around the country a lot. Essentially they'd take off to another state whenever their latest con got them into hot water.
That era also had a resurgence of gospel revivals around the country, as well as growing interest in the metaphysical and "new agey" stuff, and moving around so much enabled them to pick up ideas from lots of different groups that would eventually be stuffed into the original church's rites and dogma.
There's potential evidence that at least some of the book of mormon was copied from native american stories that had recently been transcribed into written english, that Joseph's older brother would have learned at a boarding school he was sent to.
So while the freemason's might have influenced something, there really wasn't one particular group or concept that inspired mormonism. Joseph was probably groomed by his family from an early age to eventually turn into the cult leader he became, and he plucked whatever prophecy or command he could think of that would get him whatever he wanted, at any given moment once he had the power to do so.
@Nokufushimoto_the_Hawtsauce exactly why i see JW as more cultish😬
If I were a JW I would have converted to Mormon at 3:34
This feels weird because I grew up mormon, in a mormon neighborhood, in Utah "the mormon state." We didn't have any of these rules, and hungout with my friends after church all the time. They were also mormon.
Same
Same over here in California
@@snakecityproductions5906 I mean Californians aren’t known to be rule followers after all…
I grew up Mormon and I distinctly remember when I was invited at age 9 to a friend's Birthday Party on a Sunday afternoon. I wasn't allowed to go, but my mother drove me over to the friend's house to give her her birthday gift that Sunday afternoon. I was only allowed to give her her Birthday present and then leave.
I was completely indoctrinated into believing the non-Mormons who had Birthday Parties on Sunday were bad people.
And, looking back, I think the whole idea of driving over to give my friend the gift and not stay for the party was intended to make them feel guilty, even though they weren't Mormon.
think it really depends on how liberal the community you're raised in is. it's my understanding that salt lake city is pretty chill in comparison to the rest of utah? and i guess for comparison's sake, i wouldn't compare a boise mormon to a rexburg mormon in idaho (two VASTLY different cultures from each other in the lds community)
My biological mom was Mormon as a teen and left the church as soon as she could. My parents had both me and my brother blessed when we were born, and I have no clue what that entails. But I've been to friend's catholic baptisms and first communions, and at the evangelical free church I went to as a tween (until age 13) I watched a lot of baptisms. I remember asking my dad and step mom if I had to get baptized and was told I didn't need to because I was blessed as a baby. But from watching them so much I realized I can't give up control enough for a pastor to dunk me in a tub of water.
A baby blessing is not a baptism in The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. It’s just a blessing welcoming you into the world, and it kind of marks the first documentation of you within the church. Baptisms are done at the age of 8, or after if you’re not ready.
With a baby blessing, priesthood holding men will place their hands on the baby as one of them (usually the father if he can) will give the child a unique and special blessing, blessing them with a name as well. It’s very sweet. Not weird at all. Babies are sometimes dressed in really cute white outfits, but that’s not required.
@@nicoleterry5105..Yeah, I remember being dressed up for it I was probably like eight years old at the time too I cried a lot because I didn't know why they were touching me.
Joseph Smith was called a prophet, Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb
Sure, why would he made all that up?
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!
Ok so as a Mormon I'm here to clear up two misconceptions 1. We worship Joseph Smith we atually barely really bring him up and when we do it's very brief.
2. He isn't a prophet because he had many wifes. Yes we are aware of this and the reason is God commanded many men to do this while crossing the plains and the reason why he had over 40 wifes is because many widows and children whould die without a father and there where little men and it wasn't just Joseph Smith.
1. How is singing "praise to the man" not a form of worship? 2. A very creepy excuse for paedophilia, as I'm sure you're aware Jospeh Smith married 14 year olds
He started the Mormon religion. Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
South park lol
10/10 video, Panda, my day is indeed ruined after seeing what these poor indoctrinated kids have to endure. I can only hope they someday escape this abusive religion.
It would be funnier if Miguel had a great time at the party but then it shows old Miguel pass away surrounded by family and friends and go straight to Mormon hell for that one time he went to the party.
oohhhhh nooo you went to a party with your 4 year old friends when you were 3 oh nooo youre going to hell for the rest of your life and theres nothing you can do about ittttt you should be ashamedddd
4:36 as an ex Mormon I can confirm that yes, they are not allowed to do anything else on Sundays
I am currently a member and when I was younger, I was not allowed to do much on Sundays, but im older now and I can. this wasn't a decided age thing but my family decided to separate the toxic cultural aspects that have become associated with the church and stick to the doctrine and what helps us feel the spirit. I go to birthday parties and pool parties on Sundays no problem and I wear short shorts and bikinis. also- all the dress code stuff has been taken down by church authorities. there is still some cultural stigma, but that's cause ppl r toxic not the church.
I spoke to a beautiful young female Mormon missionary. She got me to promise to pray on whether I should become a Mormon. Well, a promise is a promise. So When I got home, I prayed, "GOD should I become a Mormon? And by the way, I would rather not." I was happy to get nothing at all in return. I took the silence as a no.
Hell yeah bro
That's a weird thing about Mormonism. They seem to encourage people to pray and find answers for themselves, but when people come back with the "wrong" answer they don't accept it. They just believe you weren't ready to receive the "right" answer.
@@axoid Correct. Plus not getting the "correct" answer to your prayer about whether or not the Church is True, means, to Mormons, that there's something wrong with you!
We always firmly believed that all good people woud get an answer in the affirmative. Of course, it didn't happen for me. Weeks of praying, reading the Book of Mormon, and praying to know whether or not it was True --- no answer, no "spiritual witness."
@@axoid it's all based on emotion and being in the moment for mormon's not a "spirit"
@@Hellothere123-bi6ou its based on subconscious
Fun fact: it's not just Mormons who baptize kids at 8! There are tons of Christian churches who do communion/baptism stuff at 8 too. Yikes!!
First of all: When at 26:24 (in the cartoon about the girl with the broken leg) the blonde non- Mormon boy asked "So what does it feel like when you get a blessing?", an ad about cheap holiday offers instantly came up 😆
Now my actual comment:
I haven't heard of this cartoon series and I am interested in you reviewing more or reviewing other LDS material in the future!
Now that I have an insight in this cartoon, I find it interesting that Mormons have their own (only?) cartoon as well.
Personally, I'm also interested in the LDS church topic (not as a potential believer, fyi) like what they believe, how they organize their 2 year missionary service or how they live their daily lives (usually).
But watching these cartoons - include the old prophet's "I LOVE YOU" - gave me SOME disenchantment.
First of all: What the LDS cartoons lack in look, they have more in soul and heart. As you, Panda, said, it does not feel as cold and artificial as the JW cartoons.
But just seeing that boy suddenly feeling depressed because he is a Mormon celebrating on a SUNDAY and instantly lighten up when he talks about religion again...
...that these kids obviously got taught that they feel natural feelings because of their Mormon God...
makes me feel a bit unfomfortable, because it feels quite culty again. Like: what happens if these kids learn more about life and find something that makes them think or talk critically about their church?
And these cartoons overall have a purpose outside of edutainment, right?
Now I feel like drawing a crossover artwork with the Miguel/Sophia and Caleb/Sophia.
I got an ad for some sort of healing lamp, and the immediate voice over switch from "when you get a blessing?" was "this may be hard to believe"
@@ThePhilotherianist Haha, fits even better, I guess? :D