thank you very informative I've been searching the web to find good information on this type of English shots and I found a lot of information on them but they were not as Hands-On and descriptive as yours you made it very simple to understand
The easiest way to find the squirt pivot point of your cue is to do this: Place the cue ball on the head spot. Aim (with center ball) directly at the center diamond on the foot rail. Now, move ONLY your back hand left or right so that your cue pivots around your bridge hand. Remember to keep your cue as level as possible. Shorten or lengthen your bridge length until you find your quirt pivot point (cue ball consistently hits the center diamond on the foot rail)
I have to say that once I got a predator 314 shaft, my precision jumped up, and my game started improving at a faster rate. I also went up 2 APA handicap levels within about 1 year (a scale of 1-9). I'm no expert on cues, but this is a pretty good demonstration on why it's just a better cue to use than many others.
I don't think they would let you play with vice grips on your pool cue in a tournament. haha ha kidding... GREAT DEMONSTRATION! superbly done. very cool
Great graphics there, which must take a ton of time. I have never thought of adding weight to the end of the cue like that - enlightening to say the least! In addition to making the end of the cue heavier, it also makes it stiffer!
Excellent explanation, very thorough and helpful. I just have one quick question about the pivot point mentioned, and if its representative of the hand? Thanks
@drtrotter74 Wow, I'm just reading the reply to this two years later. Now that I can answer my own question, the answer is that you move your cue in a parelel motion to one side or the other. However, after that general motion, you will likely need to pivot your cue (mostly the butt) a little to compensate for squirt (when hitting without top or bottom spin) and also for swerve when using any top or bottom spin. But, low deflection cues reduce the amount of backhand compensation you will need.
Due all cue modifications have to be internal?.........If a person was allowed to add ringed weights to the shaft you could tune the cue.......Just curious.
I have been playing pool for 35 years, i have yet to see a pool player playing with pivot style. I agree with some of the comments posted, you must keep cue parallel to ob path then there will be no deflection what so ever, as far as swerve, if cue is not level you will have swerve. . I have been playing with $15.00 cue for almost 30 years and won few tournaments , i aim before i go down, if shot needed English i will go down with English in mind and automatically my stick is parallel,
How do you use these techniques? I am still an amateur and you dont show us hot to actually hit the ball. I imagine that this video would be good to a intermediate - semipro player but if you'd showed us hot to hit the ball, it would do good to amateurs too!
Very well done - I've never seen a better illustration of these points. May want to slow down on the pivot point explanation, as it seems to have confused some of the viewers who think it has to do with rotating the cue around it during the shot...
Vice grips and cue sticks... don't mix. You could you have used a weighted Collet, like one from the Willard tip changing tool or for a lathe? Anyway good info... Cheers.
The last diagrams describes a problem that I have been trying to understand, which is, when using side spin, are you supposed to pivot (as the diagram suggests) from your straight aimed cue position, or, instead, simply move the cue as a whole to one side but keeping it parallel to its original position? Wouldn't keeping it parallel reduce swerve even more than simply pivoting? Thanks.
Other experiments have shown that cue speed does not affect squirt. billiards.colostate.edu/bd_articles/2008/feb08.pdf I also used to believe so, but probably speed only reduces swerve so that squirt looks greater. Annoying illusion.
One use would be a blocked kick shot, where you can only shoot straight into a rail, but need the QB to come off the rail left or right to hit an object ball, or you need to take a different than natural angle path off a rail after shooting a ball in. In most play, I don't use much sidespin I try to get around the table with stun hits, follow and draw.
the entire experiment is flawed. the distribution of the weight of vice grip to the 'outside' or away, it leans away, from the 'center' of that cue as such. the arm strength that it would take conduct this experiment with a vice-grip, to zero the 'outside' effect, this guy doesnt have. it was dragged along the cloth creating additional friction. he should have some other kind of weight on that cue. horrible experiment.
These are exactly the kind of no-nonsense, get to the bottom line, videos that make UA-cam worth the time.
thank you very informative I've been searching the web to find good information on this type of English shots and I found a lot of information on them but they were not as Hands-On and descriptive as yours you made it very simple to understand
The easiest way to find the squirt pivot point of your cue is to do this:
Place the cue ball on the head spot. Aim (with center ball) directly at the center diamond on the foot rail. Now, move ONLY your back hand left or right so that your cue pivots around your bridge hand. Remember to keep your cue as level as possible.
Shorten or lengthen your bridge length until you find your quirt pivot point (cue ball consistently hits the center diamond on the foot rail)
I have to say that once I got a predator 314 shaft, my precision jumped up, and my game started improving at a faster rate. I also went up 2 APA handicap levels within about 1 year (a scale of 1-9). I'm no expert on cues, but this is a pretty good demonstration on why it's just a better cue to use than many others.
I don't think they would let you play with vice grips on your pool cue in a tournament.
haha ha
kidding...
GREAT DEMONSTRATION! superbly done. very cool
wow this great, a nice way og putting it. I loved the extra weight apparatus.
Great graphics there, which must take a ton of time. I have never thought of adding weight to the end of the cue like that - enlightening to say the least! In addition to making the end of the cue heavier, it also makes it stiffer!
Excellent explanation, very thorough and helpful. I just have one quick question about the pivot point mentioned, and if its representative of the hand? Thanks
I've a question, does the pivot point of the cue relate to the bridge somehow?
@drtrotter74 Wow, I'm just reading the reply to this two years later. Now that I can answer my own question, the answer is that you move your cue in a parelel motion to one side or the other. However, after that general motion, you will likely need to pivot your cue (mostly the butt) a little to compensate for squirt (when hitting without top or bottom spin) and also for swerve when using any top or bottom spin. But, low deflection cues reduce the amount of backhand compensation you will need.
great video
Wonderful 👍🏼
Due all cue modifications have to be internal?.........If a person was allowed to add ringed weights to the shaft you could tune the cue.......Just curious.
@bigkillapimp 'squirt' is an actual term used in cuesports
I have been playing pool for 35 years, i have yet to see a pool player playing with pivot style. I agree with some of the comments posted, you must keep cue parallel to ob path then there will be no deflection what so ever, as far as swerve, if cue is not level you will have swerve. . I have been playing with $15.00 cue for almost 30 years and won few tournaments , i aim before i go down, if shot needed English i will go down with English in mind and automatically my stick is parallel,
How do you use these techniques? I am still an amateur and you dont show us hot to actually hit the ball. I imagine that this video would be good to a intermediate - semipro player but if you'd showed us hot to hit the ball, it would do good to amateurs too!
Thank you
Very well done - I've never seen a better illustration of these points. May want to slow down on the pivot point explanation, as it seems to have confused some of the viewers who think it has to do with rotating the cue around it during the shot...
Vice grips and cue sticks... don't mix. You could you have used a weighted Collet, like one from the Willard tip changing tool or for a lathe? Anyway good info... Cheers.
oh man you got the best vids but why do you conduct a "sqwirt" demonstration with a contaminated vector impetus?
The last diagrams describes a problem that I have been trying to understand, which is, when using side spin, are you supposed to pivot (as the diagram suggests) from your straight aimed cue position, or, instead, simply move the cue as a whole to one side but keeping it parallel to its original position? Wouldn't keeping it parallel reduce swerve even more than simply pivoting? Thanks.
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whoh, you mention the squirt pivot point, but how do you test your cue to see where it is on that particular one?
are you alive after 9 years of your comment ?
Well put together video. However, I find it evident that hitting with greater speed does increase squirt.
Other experiments have shown that cue speed does not affect squirt. billiards.colostate.edu/bd_articles/2008/feb08.pdf I also used to believe so, but probably speed only reduces swerve so that squirt looks greater. Annoying illusion.
You have great videos on pool. the people who complain just dont know. you cant fill a full cup [zen].
Vice grips on a Scruggs?!!!!
Mass changing apparatus lol.
I don't think you addressed how speed affects squirt, but great video nonetheless.
It doesn't
One use would be a blocked kick shot, where you can only shoot straight into a rail, but need the QB to come off the rail left or right to hit an object ball, or you need to take a different than natural angle path off a rail after shooting a ball in. In most play, I don't use much sidespin I try to get around the table with stun hits, follow and draw.
5:56 like a Boss (y) Hh
the entire experiment is flawed. the distribution of the weight of vice grip to the 'outside' or away, it leans away, from the 'center' of that cue as such. the arm strength that it would take conduct this experiment with a vice-grip, to zero the 'outside' effect, this guy doesnt have. it was dragged along the cloth creating additional friction. he should have some other kind of weight on that cue. horrible experiment.
This is useless,all depends on the cue and feeling,there are some specific cues when you hit the sidespin the cueball goes straight as rope