Yessir ! We've gone back to Stones in our CK10 as well. And the same 4 stone grit procedure as yours.... with basically no load coupla strokes on each of the last two just for plateau finish.... the Dyno don't lie !
Love the simplicity, yet it’s a complicated process… One of the best engine building UA-cam channels there is. If I were closer to NC I’d be having you do my engines hands down. 👍🤘👏
Great video! I make torque plates for a living (CCA Racing Products) and many of my customers are running the old Sunnen hones even at the highest levels of motorsports. Some of the newer machines have automation benefits but they aren't making better holes than well-maintained old iron like that Sunnen.
I would really like to meet,and spend some time with,people that make comments such as the one you have just submitted. Just to analyse your character and psychological make up.
For such a young channel overall your videos are top notch, you seem so comfortable behind the camera and are able to speak without having a bunch of cuts or rambling on Pete your the man
Love your content. No BS, just the facts. Really appreciated you comparing engine and chassis Dyno info prior to teardown. Don't much care for the peak numbers. I care about the before and after comparison though. Thank you for taking the time to share what you've learned with all of us.
Pete bud I've been going back through this series of videos hoping to see if I've missed something that you're trying to teach me. But I've got to tell you man I really like you tone you've got on the guitar sounds awesome
Another great episode. Today I learned that honing oil & rocks are expensive, and I learned a new word.. ubiquitous. Tomorrows challenge will be using ubiquitous in a sentence. Looking forward to the next episode & Im really hoping for another episode of MCTBs!! 🤙🏼🤘🏼🤪🤘🏼🤙🏼
Are customers asking about the use of cylinder and head surface texture reading tools like a Profilometer? That seems to be the next thing coming for high end builds.
I just want to go on record and say..you’re basically a living legend Pete, I had a buddy get a fox tuned by you, way back when you were in the og shop. And you guys were doing some amazing things with the original LSs… aka sbf
Ck-10 and cv-616 are good machines from sunnen. I had a cv-616 and just went to the sunnen sv-10. The only thing that is really different is the sv-10 will dwell on its on when you get to a tight spot. The newer machines are really set up for production or to cut down on labor. Your machine is nice and it does the job.
david vizard says that when removing weight its better to take it off the profile of the counterweight to streamline it, and that in general it doesnt matter too much to maintain the shape i think thats cause you have the rest of the weight following through anyhow. this will stop oil from hitting the counterweights with as much force too, helping with vibration
Hello friend.. I see there are many tools used to polish cylinders, but some only have 2 stones, the other 2 sides are 2 felt pieces, these 2 felt pieces are effective. What, please explain to me
Someday I will find the individual that started the rumor saying racing could be cheap! LOL!! Cheap engines are not fast, and fast engines are not cheap!
@@realgoodatdoinstuff900 something I'm wondering about, using a hone to go .010 over is there a chance of getting the cylinder out of square? Like if the last shop got them off a little with the .030 overbore. I was watching Jim's Auto Machine and they was using a boring bar and you could see where the tooling wasn't touching down and he said the last overbore they probably didn't have the block squarely located . I guess what I'm asking the boring bar locates the cylinder squarely to the centerline and decks whereas with a hone does it just follow the hole that's already there?
OLÁ. 12/12/23. Assisti seu vídeo referente a Brunimento de cilindro. A precisão exigida no Brunimento de cilindros RETIFICADOS não permite o uso de braço superior "oscilante" nem de brunidores "manuais". (CONSIDERO UM ERRO DE PROJETO DA MÁQUINA). ABRAÇOS... Roberto Udo Krapf
Not that you're making money off of youtube with the ads start putting a video out at least once a week so they keep paying you or they push your channel to the bottom of the list.
This guy said the rings never touch the bores then what the hell does it matter what finish will hold oil, those micro thin scratches hold oil, come on man the crankshaft throws tons of oil on those bores, the rings hardest job the rings have is scraping oil off the bores and those tiny thin rings let a lot of gas through helping to scavenge the oil off the bores, nothing gets more oil than the bores, also if honing plates were so important why do factory motors not do this they should all be terrible running smokers but that is not the case, I would like to see someone twist the block simulating torque twist and then measure those bores I bet it would scare the hell out of your opinions..
what's better for a small block for turbo engine longer rod or less compression height or do you want a smaller rod and more compression height? I'm building a small block Ford Speedmaster Max block 9.750 deck height bore 4.155 with 4 in stroke crank with Cleveland mains and I was shooting for 11.1 or 11.5.1 compression ratio.what would be better ? and the motor will be Turbo on E85 on the street and methanol at the track.and you want a bigger cc combustion chamber? I was thinking about running the trick flow 240cchighport head SbF any info on this would be huge because you're the man and you do great work and you're awesome teacher.
Yessir ! We've gone back to Stones in our CK10 as well.
And the same 4 stone grit procedure as yours.... with basically no load coupla strokes on each of the last two just for plateau finish.... the Dyno don't lie !
Is it weird that after I watch these videos I walk around all day sing the polishing turds song.
I think it's totally normal.
This dude deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for the logic he drops starting at 9:04
I appreciate y’all’s sarcasm! It is refreshing to all of us that have a f&cking clue about making sh!t fast!
Love the simplicity, yet it’s a complicated process… One of the best engine building UA-cam channels there is. If I were closer to NC I’d be having you do my engines hands down. 👍🤘👏
Shipping is cheap
that sunnen has been polishing winning turds from day one lol I'd be proud of it too that's pretty cool thanks for sharing keep up the good work
Great video! I make torque plates for a living (CCA Racing Products) and many of my customers are running the old Sunnen hones even at the highest levels of motorsports. Some of the newer machines have automation benefits but they aren't making better holes than well-maintained old iron like that Sunnen.
If Pete would've been my teacher in high school I'd liked it a lot better. Well done Mr Harrell
I would really like to meet,and spend some time with,people that make comments such as the one you have just submitted.
Just to analyse your character and psychological make up.
Love the name of your channel and the intro music
Your old CK10 still does a great job.
There is a reason the called them the"Cylinder King"!
Great content.
Thank you, EM.
Awesome video guys
Appreciate your time and knowledge
Great videos , it’s nice to see how it’s done properly !
Good work Pete! Enjoying the videos. Special Rocks are RAD! 😂
For such a young channel overall your videos are top notch, you seem so comfortable behind the camera and are able to speak without having a bunch of cuts or rambling on
Pete your the man
Love your content. No BS, just the facts. Really appreciated you comparing engine and chassis Dyno info prior to teardown. Don't much care for the peak numbers. I care about the before and after comparison though. Thank you for taking the time to share what you've learned with all of us.
These are my type of videos, be really neat to see the whole process!!!!
Awesome stuff!
I learned a lot.
Polishing Turds is the best mini-series ever made! Way better than that FRIENDS horsesh*t. Right up there with Sopranos.....
Pete bud I've been going back through this series of videos hoping to see if I've missed something that you're trying to teach me. But I've got to tell you man I really like you tone you've got on the guitar sounds awesome
Another great episode. Today I learned that honing oil & rocks are expensive, and I learned a new word.. ubiquitous.
Tomorrows challenge will be using ubiquitous in a sentence.
Looking forward to the next episode & Im really hoping for another episode of MCTBs!!
🤙🏼🤘🏼🤪🤘🏼🤙🏼
Are customers asking about the use of cylinder and head surface texture reading tools like a Profilometer? That seems to be the next thing coming for high end builds.
Polishing Turds World Tour Coming Soon
Kevin sent me.
Second vid... I'll be sticking around.
Love it! Thanks for doin’ this Pete!!!
No problem bud
I just want to go on record and say..you’re basically a living legend Pete, I had a buddy get a fox tuned by you, way back when you were in the og shop. And you guys were doing some amazing things with the original LSs… aka sbf
The music reminds me of Dokken. Love the videos guys keep it up.
Thanks!
Thank you sir
Thanks
Thanks Pete
Awesome video
Rock on.
Ck-10 and cv-616 are good machines from sunnen. I had a cv-616 and just went to the sunnen sv-10. The only thing that is really different is the sv-10 will dwell on its on when you get to a tight spot. The newer machines are really set up for production or to cut down on labor. Your machine is nice and it does the job.
When I was younger I worked at a shop that would hot hone blocks, run hot water through the block while honing. I wonder if its still done?
You're not just paying for the stones and oil, you're paying for the expertise. Your other option is a dingle ball and hope for the best😉🤣🤣🤣
word of the day: ubiquitous :-)
super informative dude thanks
david vizard says that when removing weight its better to take it off the profile of the counterweight to streamline it, and that in general it doesnt matter too much to maintain the shape i think thats cause you have the rest of the weight following through anyhow. this will stop oil from hitting the counterweights with as much force too, helping with vibration
Can't beat a CK10! You may want to install the Jamison Dwell Control on it.......
Do you use the same head gasket and studs that will be used in the final assembly when you bolt the torque plate on?
Hello friend.. I see there are many tools used to polish cylinders, but some only have 2 stones, the other 2 sides are 2 felt pieces, these 2 felt pieces are effective. What, please explain to me
Proud rock user lol
Really... A, B, C & D stones will never work! Everyone knows that. That thing is gonna blow on the dyno for sure. JK thanks for the build series.
How many cylinders can you hone before wearing out the stones and honing/cutting oil before they need to be replaced ?
Are you plateau honing? Is that final hone?
have you ever done lifter coating?
You don’t use the head gasket under the plate? Iron plate for iron heads? Aluminum plate for aluminum heads? BHJ makes both correct?
Nope. I think all thats mostly a waste of time.
Thanks Pete
I have heard other notable engine builders get all hot and bothered about the angle of the cross hatch. Do you alter this on your engines?
Was there a betting pool for HP increase? Damn I missed it, didn't I....
Do you bolt the main caps before honing as well?
Yes always, torqued to spec.
A bar goes through the main saddles to hold the block to the machine.
T.S. RACING
Someday I will find the individual that started the rumor saying racing could be cheap! LOL!! Cheap engines are not fast, and fast engines are not cheap!
Enjoy your videos. Are you rotating the stones so they wear evenly, or are you dressing them? Just curious and couldn't tell what you was doing.
When you seen him pull the stones off he scrubbed them on themselves dressing them selves
Yes both.
@@realgoodatdoinstuff900 something I'm wondering about, using a hone to go .010 over is there a chance of getting the cylinder out of square? Like if the last shop got them off a little with the .030 overbore. I was watching Jim's Auto Machine and they was using a boring bar and you could see where the tooling wasn't touching down and he said the last overbore they probably didn't have the block squarely located . I guess what I'm asking the boring bar locates the cylinder squarely to the centerline and decks whereas with a hone does it just follow the hole that's already there?
Awesome music man! Made me laugh.
Nice line hone...
OLÁ. 12/12/23. Assisti seu vídeo referente a Brunimento de cilindro. A precisão exigida no Brunimento de cilindros RETIFICADOS não permite o uso de braço superior "oscilante" nem de brunidores "manuais". (CONSIDERO UM ERRO DE PROJETO DA MÁQUINA). ABRAÇOS... Roberto Udo Krapf
Do you ever measure the surface finish?
Yes with my finger
Not that you're making money off of youtube with the ads start putting a video out at least once a week so they keep paying you or they push your channel to the bottom of the list.
What rings do you like, 1.2mm or 1.5mm?
Get those commie measurements outta here. We measure the stupid way, inches!
First lol
This guy said the rings never touch the bores then what the hell does it matter what finish will hold oil, those micro thin scratches hold oil, come on man the crankshaft throws tons of oil on those bores, the rings hardest job the rings have is scraping oil off the bores and those tiny thin rings let a lot of gas through helping to scavenge the oil off the bores, nothing gets more oil than the bores, also if honing plates were so important why do factory motors not do this they should all be terrible running smokers but that is not the case, I would like to see someone twist the block simulating torque twist and then measure those bores I bet it would scare the hell out of your opinions..
You are using the WRONG final honing stone.
You should have used stone E instead of a stone D.
Amature mistake.
what's better for a small block for turbo engine longer rod or less compression height or do you want a smaller rod and more compression height? I'm building a small block Ford Speedmaster Max block 9.750 deck height bore 4.155 with 4 in stroke crank with Cleveland mains and I was shooting for 11.1 or 11.5.1 compression ratio.what would be better ? and the motor will be Turbo on E85 on the street and methanol at the track.and you want a bigger cc combustion chamber? I was thinking about running the trick flow 240cchighport head SbF any info on this would be huge because you're the man and you do great work and you're awesome teacher.