Bought one of these a few days ago, and the screen looks great with G-Sync working perfectly with my GPU. I have two issues. The audio output from the headphone socket is very low, meaning I have to crank both my Windows volume and speakers to 100% to get a decent level of volume. I'm considering putting a pre-amp in line with my speakers. Secondly the PSU with my display has bad coil whine. I contacted MSI support as it seemed daft to return the whole lot for want of a small PSU. But they will only offer to collect the faulty PSU for repair leaving me with no screen for 15 days, when I've had it for less than 48 hours. Not great customer service.
Debating between something like this or a 1440 240hz panel such as the g274qpx. Really curious to see how much better games look at 4k compared to 1440 at 27”.
Just swapeed from my M27U which is a 4k 160hz panel to a 1440p 240hz monitor, 4k looks good but the difference from 1080p to 1440p is much bigger IMO and since I sacrificed 240hz, and got half the fps I sold it, for fps games 4k won't do a big difference, even in big games like tarkov and PUBG, I find that after 1440p the benefits for fps games significantly diminshes and 4k is not worth it IMO if you mostly play fps games and care about performance, I think it's not worth it even for story games but there's maybe an argument to that, I can't go back to 1080p it looks so bad compared to 1440p, but the fact I could easily swap from 4k back to 1440p should tell you it's not that huge, would only recommend thinking about 4k if you have a 4080/7900xtx at least.
I am currently looking for a good monitor. I have a PS5 and want one with HDMI 2.1. I found the INNOCN 27G1S Plus, but I read that it is not compatible with the PS5. Then I found the MPG274URF QD. Although I know the PS5 doesn’t run native 4K, it is at least compatible with the PS5. I’m considering competing, and if I do well, I might also buy a PC with a 240 Hz monitor. For now, I need a good monitor for the PS5 with a good response time. Do you recommend this monitor?
Thank you for your review. Unfortunately, I ordered three of these monitors from Amazon UK, and all three had dead pixels. It was a frustrating experience, wasting a lot of time returning them. I don't have the patience to keep ordering in the hope of getting one without dead pixels. I might settle for the ASUS ROG Strix XG27UCS or the LG 27GR93U, even though their color gamut isn't as good, just to see if they arrive without any defects.
I'm sorry to hear that, it's certainly frustrating and 3 poor units in a row is very disheartening. I've heard similar stories from other models over the years, from various manufacturers (such as the others you're considering). There are no guarantees and when there are ~25 million subpixels it's unfortunately not all that uncommon for some to be defective.
@@PCMonitors Indeed, thank you for your reply. It’s true that this issue can occur with any brand, which only adds to the frustration. At this point, I'm not sure what else to do. All I want is a 4K 144Hz IPS display without any dead pixels!
My recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/. The two are compared here - forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/msi-mpg-274urf-qd-review-and-comparison-with-m27u/ (which is based on information from the conclusion of this review).
@@PCMonitors ok. Thank you. I know you said it’s not completely glossy but it does say glossy in the monitors description. If I’m looking for a glossy monitor would you recommend this? Thank you.
@Football_8591 It's not glossy, it has a matte anti-glare screen surface as covered in detail (and clearly shown) in the review. It's 'light matte' - but still matte. There are no glossy alternatives I could recommend, either.
@@Football_8591 It's similar to the XV282K KV we've reviewed. Doesn't have anywhere near as wide a colour gamut and pixel response tuning isn't as good. pcmonitors.info/reviews/acer-xv282k-kv/
Hi. I bought this monitor few days ago and have a question about scaling to 1080p. Does this blurry annoyance is permanent or it can be solved by potential firmware update or by some third party scaling app? If so what app? Thank you for your work and recommendation tab on site :)
Scaling is specifically covered in the review. As advised there you might want to try increasing the sharpness in the OSD. The interpolation (scaling) process used on this monitor is actually better than many others, but it certainly still won't look the same as a native Full HD display.
Hello Absolutely comprehensive and complete review. I don't use the Pc much for gaming, only once a week. But I'm very tire of 60hz. So far I was going for the Dell u2724D: ips black (2000:1), 120 hz, eye care, but only Qhd. So, probably low text clarity (although Dell says it's sharp). This monitor on the other hand seems to square the circle, low contrast aside. It's a 4k, with high refresh rate, high gamut and low minimum brightness. Is it risky to buy it mainly for photo editing and web browsing/office work ? It is extremely difficult to find a monitor that will suit mixed use, at least under 3,000.
I think this monitor is great for general purpose use - and the extra pixel density as well as superior responsiveness is nice to have on the desktop even. I also specifically recommend it for photo editing - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-photo-and-video-editing-monitors/.
@@PCMonitors Hi I finally purchased this monitor. After trying it a few days I feel very disappointed. I have no tools to check the contrast but visually I found it really poor. High frequencies and latency aside I did not see much technological improvement. Yes, it is a 4k and has a wide gamut, but only on the data sheet. The color spectrum is horrible, especially in non-pro modes. Cheaper monitors have much more pleasing and restful colors. Over-saturation of reds (and more) makes even faces pinkish. I struggled to watch a movie. Photo galleries then, unwatchable. Tiring to the eyes, causing me discomfort and headaches. Also, I don't know if it's mine, but moving the joystick makes a crackling sound from the black plastic casing. I am hating it. I think I will sell it or return it. Maybe only suitable for gaming, but not for the rest. I don't want to dispute the technical accuracy of your test, which I still think is honest and rigorous, as always.
@@LucianoPiana Sorry to see you're not getting on with it. Have you tried the sRGB setting or alternative sRGB emulation? The effects you describe are described in the review and exactly what happens when you view content designed for sRGB with a much wider colour gamut - pcmonitors.info/articles/taming-the-wide-gamut-using-srgb-emulation/. Anyway, no reason to keep the screen if you really dislike its image representation.
First things first. Amazing review, you put a ton of time into this and I really appreciate it. I’ve been using the aoc q27g3xmn since December and the vrr flicker drives me crazy. Glad to see this monitor performs great, your review made me buy it. I appreciate all the work you did here.
thank u for the great review and i hate that u cant adjust color channels especially RED ... i was comparing this one with asus TUF vg28uql1a , m27u dont go portrait so canceled it but it seems nice , then lastly MAG 27 urf hoping that the reduced color gamut might reduce the saturation and haloing a bit i dont see a clear winner here as most have what i need which is 4k , good color gamut portrait mode , picture by picture ,,, any advice? i am leaning toward mpg 274URF QD and thanks again for your great reviews
Per the review there's a lot of flexibility with respect to the colour gamut used by this monitor. My recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
@@PCMonitors many thanks i didnt know that well-organised website is there ,,, yup got what i need for a 27 4k from the website now will just wait for the msi MAG 322 UPF to release or the philips 32M2N6800M release outside china again many thanks for the great reviews, monitor setting recommendations and website
@@DVTHEFOX Love the monitor, colors pop, 4k resolution looks awesome. There is some IPS glow in a dark room but its much less then my old IPS monitor. Not sure if its the Quantum Dot Technology or simply the fact that its an updated IPS panel but the glow is harder to notice. Using it primarily for gaming and its awesome. Feels like a $700+ monitor.
ICC profiles are included in the video description. The one using the 'Test Settings' uses the full native gamut and that can be mapped down to Adobe RGB for colour-aware applications. If you're after the best colour accuracy and that's important to you then you should really considering investing in your own calibration device for appropriate adjustments specific to your unit.
Thanks for the review i couldn't find much info on this model. Went ahead and purchased it and i must say what a brilliant piece of kit it is. Screen clarity and colors are amazing for the price of this monitor it really is a bargain. Honestly i couldn't be happier, all thanks to your review. Thanks
HI, is it possible to use mouse and keyboard connected to the hub with the usb-c laptop? I would like to use one desktop pc with normal display port and one laptop with usb-c and I am wondering if they can share the devices connected to the hub Thank you!
Yes - that's the idea behind KVM, which this monitor supports. You can connect USB peripherals like that to the monitor and the monitor will assign them to the system connected via USB-C (your laptop) or USB-B (your desktop) according to the display signal being used (desktop or laptop).
Greetings from Türkiye. Thank you sir for your large review. I play story games and watch movies. Which one would you choose between Asus Rog XG27UCS & Dell G3223Q and this model? The price of Asus and Msi is almost the same. Dell is $125 more in Türkiye. Dell (+31,5 inches) - Asus (+10 bit) - MSI (+QD). Which one should I choose and why? Thank you very much in advance.
Per the review the MSI supports 10-bit and 12-bit colour (using the monitor's scaler), which is only useful if you actually require it and can use it for your workflow rather than for general consumption. Either way, that isn't a unique advantage of the ASUS at all. My own recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
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Hello and thanks for the review. How are you applying corrections to your colorimeter for this review? Are you using a spectro or just a stock correction file from your calibration software? If you you have a correction file especially for this monitor is it possible to share it? Which software are you using? Sorry for asking all these questions and thank you.
Thank you for your review. I bought this recently and have a question. I was trying to connect my iPad Air 5 to this monitor via Type C cable that comes along with the IPad. It turns out that the monitor is not displaying and the iPad is not charging. In my opinion, the cable might not support the DP Alt, hence the monitor is not able to display. However, I thought at least it would be able to charge the iPad even if it is not displaying. Could it be this monitor’s USB C port is not functioning? Or the port requires USB3.1/ thunderbolt cable to charge as well (which USB 2.0 is not able to charge)? Hopefully can get your advice on this. Thank you in advance!
Excellent review, thank you! Have you had a chance to check out the ASUS ROG XG27UCS? It's a relatively new monitor, similar price point and features. Mainly looking for a monitor with similar features that doesn't have the glow experienced in this video at 19:20, if such a monitor exists. Cheers!
I haven't used the XG27UCS, but it has a significantly narrower colour gamut than this one so isn't directly comparable. You won't find a monitor in the segment with significantly lower 'glow' than shown here. It's advisable not to sit in a dark room and if the room is generally dimly lit, consider bias lighting behind the screen.
@@PCMonitors Hi there, thanks for the helpful reply! Have you experience with Mini-LED monitors, such as the Innocn 27m2v? This monitor received some high praise when it was released around $750, and can now be found for under $500, putting it a similar price bracket as some of these IPS panels. I've read some Reddit threads about the 27m2v, and am currently trying to get to the bottom of understanding some quirks with local dimming that some say this monitor has. Otherwise, it seems many people agree that the contrast ratio is fantastic, and the monitor is great for HDR + local dimming gaming, with some blooming in certain circumstances. Anyhow, would love your opinion on this one, if possible! Cheers :) EDIT: the high praise I'm referring to is from Displayninja, PCWorld, Rtings, and some Reddit users, for what it's worth!
I think it's worth trying out if you want a good value HDR solution. But it's not "amazing" in that respect given it's a relatively limited zone-count IPS without a 'low glow' panel. It's hard to argue with the value - expect some quirks and weird firmware issues but also expect a nice general performance from it.
@@PCMonitors Hey man, thanks again for this. That's the impression I had, too. The thing is, there doesn't seem to be other options in this price range, besides the MSI in this video of course. Compared with the MSI, do you have an opinion on how they'd fare against each other with office work (browsing etc, no photo editing), and SDR gaming? Because if the two monitors would be similar for these purposes, it would seem like the 27M2V would be the best choice, given its HDR capabilities and better contrast ratio with local dimming enabled. Been watching more of your vids btw, subbed, great stuff!
The MSI has better overdrive tuning, with a 'single overdrive mode experience'. Whereas with the Innocn the optimal setting depends on refresh rate. The MSI uses DC dimming and is truly flicker-free, whereas the Innocn uses high frequency PWM which some can find uncomfortable. Outside of that performance characteristics are pretty similar for normal SDR usage. As a side note unrelated to image performance, the MSI also has better build quality.
Hi, Is it possible to use the KVM switch function via the monitor's menu using the joystick? Or is it only possible with the Productivity Intelligence app what needs to be installed on both PCs? Unfortunately, I cannot install it on my work PC. Thanks
I got a line of dead pixels that randomly appeared and disappeared after buying this monitor for a week , i sent back to the retailer and said they can't recreate this issue and would do anything for it....
That sounds odd, but probably some form of artifact rather than actual dead pixels. Because several dead pixels in a line is unlikely and those 'dead pixels' then all reviving themselves is essentially impossible.
Well it's a 27" 3840 x 2160 model, so 163.18 PPI. As covered in the review it has a 'single overdrive mode experience' with the 'Fast' setting. So use that.
I'd recommend watching the colour reproduction section of the review. It explains what effect the wide colour gamut has on the image. Basically it increases saturation and vibrancy potential.
I see all the sides of the screen are very noticeably dimmer than the center , this makes working on white background very annoying and disappointing. Why can't they make the light uniform across the screen??!! I've bought the mag 274qrf qd e2 2k monitor from msi which has the same kind of issue which I can not tolerate and so returned. Is this common for IPS panels or just that they don't care to quality check ?? My 1080p 60 hz monitor from 7 years ago has 1000 times better brightness uniformity and still running. I don't understand why these new monitors with all those latest technology are soo badly put together or manufactured? Please give your thoughts on this in the reply.
Uniformity issues vary between individual units and it isn't uncommon to see such issues, particularly for larger monitors. Viewing angle imperfections also play a role, so you may notice such issues are less noticeable if you sit a bit further back from the screen.
@@PCMonitors I check 2 units of the model I mentioned, both had same issue, the brighter parts of the screen are warm in color and dimmer parts are cool. I even saw a review from china which pointed about the same issue . And now I am watching your review and here I see the same issue too. The severity of the issue maybe more or less depending on the unit but it is present on all units regardless. Is this issue occurs for backlight ? Does the backlight not cover the whole screen ? Do oled monitors also have this issue ? I hope not!
The issue is common on many monitors, but it's more obvious on models with QD LED backlights because of the spectral intensity. Any colour temperature irregularities are exaggerated, in other words, because the tints one way or the other are stronger.
@@PCMonitors QD led monitors are available to consumers for more than 3 years now, why don't they improve the irregularity? Are QD led panels on development for improvement for ips panels or are they just working on improving just oleds? Will we see better uniformity on QD ips displays in coming years ?
@@Hasan2k15 LCDs will always have irregularities, especially in the consumer space where they're mass manufactured products which aren't produced to tight uniformity standards in most cases. And there's nothing you can do to alter any uniformity issues being clearer on QD LED, because it's a physical property of the light and you can't change that.
@@风铃-f3m Per the review, HDMI 2.1 VRR is supported. ALLM is irrelevant for monitors, it's designed for TVs where they have distinct game modes with lower latency.
I believe it uses the same CELL (panel minus backlight). But a different backlight is used on this one - hence the significant gamut difference from the 'QD LED' backlight.
@@PCMonitors i just bought it and am waiting for it to come it. ive been using the 32 samsung chg 70 monitor a while and hdmi 2.0 and vrr flicker is very bad. i think it will be a smart upgrade. the 4k "120" call of duty will be nice too. i was confused on the console mode if it locked the resolution to 1440p or stayed at the native 4k. your videos are awesome and inciteful keep up the great work!
@@ChaseArkansas 3 weeks later, what are your thoughts, if it arrived?. Issues with backlight bleeding and IPS glow on every room settings (Dark, light)?
@DVTHEFOX I basically learned turn everything off run free sync and fastest setting has way less ghosting than I anticipated. The series x games in 4k have shown a dramatic increase in fidelity for me. I love having the space to run my cables through and it Def has a strong ips glow but the colors are so vibrant maybe oranges a little too vibrant but over all nice bright beautiful color. It's insanely responsive with hdr off and is a great call of duty monitor
Can you control the audio with the OSD or the joystick? I had a G274QPF that had a pretty bad audio output that meant having pretty low volume coming from my speakers 90% of the time. Looking for something I can use for work + console gaming and considering this one.
@@PCMonitors Not the built in speakers but for headphone jacks there usually is a volume control provided in LG monitors similar to brightness. Not sure about MSI monitors.
@@PCMonitors in case anyone else has the same question: Ended up getting this monitor and, even though there's no volume control AT ALL on the OSD or Gaming Intelligence app... The audio output in this one is miiiiiiiles ahead of their G and MAG monitors. I'm assuming that's one of the areas where they cut costs in their budget line, but at least in this mid-line monitor it's more than enough for my iLoud Micro monitors. Wouldn't have gone for it if it wasn't for this review so thanks a lot!
Why would I test a monitor on a game I don't play? Also, the points raised in the review apply to any game or indeed other tasks performed on the monitor. So no - that would be a waste of time and isn't going to happen.
I believe it is based on the same panel, but with a different backlight. The colour gamut is therefore completely different, significantly wider on this model.
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Introduction: 0:00
Refresh Rates & Scaling: 2:16
Features & Aesthetics: 8:38
Subpixels & Calibration: 12:49
Contrast & Brightness: 16:58
Colour Reproduction: 22:42
HDR (High Dynamic Range): 30:30
Responsiveness (General): 34:38
Responsiveness (VRR): 42:35
Conclusion: 52:50
Bought one of these a few days ago, and the screen looks great with G-Sync working perfectly with my GPU.
I have two issues.
The audio output from the headphone socket is very low, meaning I have to crank both my Windows volume and speakers to 100% to get a decent level of volume. I'm considering putting a pre-amp in line with my speakers.
Secondly the PSU with my display has bad coil whine. I contacted MSI support as it seemed daft to return the whole lot for want of a small PSU. But they will only offer to collect the faulty PSU for repair leaving me with no screen for 15 days, when I've had it for less than 48 hours. Not great customer service.
Glad you like the monitor overall, but it's shame about those issues souring the experience.
Debating between something like this or a 1440 240hz panel such as the g274qpx. Really curious to see how much better games look at 4k compared to 1440 at 27”.
I find the difference significant and I personally really enjoy the extra pixel density, but it's pretty subjective. 🙂
It's a pretty big difference. Everything is just much sharper and I don't like going back to 1440p now.
Just swapeed from my M27U which is a 4k 160hz panel to a 1440p 240hz monitor, 4k looks good but the difference from 1080p to 1440p is much bigger IMO and since I sacrificed 240hz, and got half the fps I sold it, for fps games 4k won't do a big difference, even in big games like tarkov and PUBG, I find that after 1440p the benefits for fps games significantly diminshes and 4k is not worth it IMO if you mostly play fps games and care about performance, I think it's not worth it even for story games but there's maybe an argument to that, I can't go back to 1080p it looks so bad compared to 1440p, but the fact I could easily swap from 4k back to 1440p should tell you it's not that huge, would only recommend thinking about 4k if you have a 4080/7900xtx at least.
@@yarincool1237you’re right especially in 27 inch you can’t tell the difference ..
I am currently looking for a good monitor. I have a PS5 and want one with HDMI 2.1. I found the INNOCN 27G1S Plus, but I read that it is not compatible with the PS5. Then I found the MPG274URF QD. Although I know the PS5 doesn’t run native 4K, it is at least compatible with the PS5. I’m considering competing, and if I do well, I might also buy a PC with a 240 Hz monitor. For now, I need a good monitor for the PS5 with a good response time. Do you recommend this monitor?
Thank you for your review. Unfortunately, I ordered three of these monitors from Amazon UK, and all three had dead pixels. It was a frustrating experience, wasting a lot of time returning them. I don't have the patience to keep ordering in the hope of getting one without dead pixels. I might settle for the ASUS ROG Strix XG27UCS or the LG 27GR93U, even though their color gamut isn't as good, just to see if they arrive without any defects.
I'm sorry to hear that, it's certainly frustrating and 3 poor units in a row is very disheartening. I've heard similar stories from other models over the years, from various manufacturers (such as the others you're considering). There are no guarantees and when there are ~25 million subpixels it's unfortunately not all that uncommon for some to be defective.
@@PCMonitors Indeed, thank you for your reply. It’s true that this issue can occur with any brand, which only adds to the frustration. At this point, I'm not sure what else to do. All I want is a 4K 144Hz IPS display without any dead pixels!
@@silovoid1104 Any luck in the end?
@@DVTHEFOX Unfortunately no, the 4th one also had a dead pixel so I returned it and gave up on this model.
@@silovoid1104 Well, what did you got instead?..
I was set on getting the GIGABYTE m27u, but now I've seen this MSI MPG 274URF, and I'm torn. Which one should I choose?
My recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/. The two are compared here - forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/msi-mpg-274urf-qd-review-and-comparison-with-m27u/ (which is based on information from the conclusion of this review).
@@PCMonitors Thank you 🙏 I’m getting this MSI.
Would you say this is a better option than the ASUS VG28UQL1A? Both are exactly the same price currently and I’m looking for a 4K monitor for series X
My recommendation is clear (though I think you'll like either model, really) - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
Thanks for the great review. I didnt notice if you said anything about speakers. Does it have built in speakers? Thank you.
I briefly mentioned that it doesn't have those.
@@PCMonitors ok. Thank you. I know you said it’s not completely glossy but it does say glossy in the monitors description. If I’m looking for a glossy monitor would you recommend this? Thank you.
@Football_8591 It's not glossy, it has a matte anti-glare screen surface as covered in detail (and clearly shown) in the review. It's 'light matte' - but still matte. There are no glossy alternatives I could recommend, either.
@PCMonitors thank you. What about the Acer predator xb283k (KVbmiipruzx). It’s $414 on Amazon so in the same price range.
@@Football_8591 It's similar to the XV282K KV we've reviewed. Doesn't have anywhere near as wide a colour gamut and pixel response tuning isn't as good. pcmonitors.info/reviews/acer-xv282k-kv/
Hi. I bought this monitor few days ago and have a question about scaling to 1080p. Does this blurry annoyance is permanent or it can be solved by potential firmware update or by some third party scaling app? If so what app? Thank you for your work and recommendation tab on site :)
Scaling is specifically covered in the review. As advised there you might want to try increasing the sharpness in the OSD. The interpolation (scaling) process used on this monitor is actually better than many others, but it certainly still won't look the same as a native Full HD display.
@@PCMonitors Thank you for quick response :) Till now I was using Image Sharpening at 100pts from AMD driver but surely I will try your advice too.
Hello
Absolutely comprehensive and complete review.
I don't use the Pc much for gaming, only once a week. But I'm very tire of 60hz.
So far I was going for the Dell u2724D: ips black (2000:1), 120 hz, eye care, but only Qhd. So, probably low text clarity (although Dell says it's sharp). This monitor on the other hand seems to square the circle, low contrast aside. It's a 4k, with high refresh rate, high gamut and low minimum brightness.
Is it risky to buy it mainly for photo editing and web browsing/office work ?
It is extremely difficult to find a monitor that will suit mixed use, at least under 3,000.
I think this monitor is great for general purpose use - and the extra pixel density as well as superior responsiveness is nice to have on the desktop even. I also specifically recommend it for photo editing - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-photo-and-video-editing-monitors/.
@@PCMonitors Hi
I finally purchased this monitor.
After trying it a few days I feel very disappointed. I have no tools to check the contrast but visually I found it really poor.
High frequencies and latency aside I did not see much technological improvement. Yes, it is a 4k and has a wide gamut, but only on the data sheet. The color spectrum is horrible, especially in non-pro modes. Cheaper monitors have much more pleasing and restful colors. Over-saturation of reds (and more) makes even faces pinkish. I struggled to watch a movie. Photo galleries then, unwatchable. Tiring to the eyes, causing me discomfort and headaches. Also, I don't know if it's mine, but moving the joystick makes a crackling sound from the black plastic casing. I am hating it. I think I will sell it or return it. Maybe only suitable for gaming, but not for the rest. I don't want to dispute the technical accuracy of your test, which I still think is honest and rigorous, as always.
@@LucianoPiana Sorry to see you're not getting on with it. Have you tried the sRGB setting or alternative sRGB emulation? The effects you describe are described in the review and exactly what happens when you view content designed for sRGB with a much wider colour gamut - pcmonitors.info/articles/taming-the-wide-gamut-using-srgb-emulation/. Anyway, no reason to keep the screen if you really dislike its image representation.
@@LucianoPiana What did ya do in the end?
First things first. Amazing review, you put a ton of time into this and I really appreciate it.
I’ve been using the aoc q27g3xmn since December and the vrr flicker drives me crazy. Glad to see this monitor performs great, your review made me buy it. I appreciate all the work you did here.
So how does it feels?..
thank u for the great review
and i hate that u cant adjust color channels especially RED ...
i was comparing this one with asus TUF vg28uql1a , m27u dont go portrait so canceled it but it seems nice , then lastly MAG 27 urf
hoping that the reduced color gamut might reduce the saturation and haloing a bit
i dont see a clear winner here as most have what i need which is 4k , good color gamut portrait mode , picture by picture ,,, any advice? i am leaning toward mpg 274URF QD
and thanks again for your great reviews
Per the review there's a lot of flexibility with respect to the colour gamut used by this monitor. My recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
@@PCMonitors many thanks i didnt know that well-organised website is there ,,, yup got what i need for a 27 4k from the website now will just wait for the msi MAG 322 UPF to release or the philips 32M2N6800M release outside china
again many thanks for the great reviews, monitor setting recommendations and website
Awesome review. Pulled the trigger on this one as the price per performance is very good.
How's the experience?. Backlight bleed and IPS glow on dark/bright room?
@@DVTHEFOX Love the monitor, colors pop, 4k resolution looks awesome. There is some IPS glow in a dark room but its much less then my old IPS monitor. Not sure if its the Quantum Dot Technology or simply the fact that its an updated IPS panel but the glow is harder to notice. Using it primarily for gaming and its awesome. Feels like a $700+ monitor.
thank you, you really have a very nice channel with good content and, which rarely happens, great feedback
Great review for a great monitor, can you share please the ICC for the best Adobe RGB results?
ICC profiles are included in the video description. The one using the 'Test Settings' uses the full native gamut and that can be mapped down to Adobe RGB for colour-aware applications. If you're after the best colour accuracy and that's important to you then you should really considering investing in your own calibration device for appropriate adjustments specific to your unit.
Thanks for the efforts put into the review, the website and answering the comments!
How bad is the ips glow on this one?
@@yzuniga13sa Covered in the review. 19:20.
Thanks for the review i couldn't find much info on this model. Went ahead and purchased it and i must say what a brilliant piece of kit it is.
Screen clarity and colors are amazing for the price of this monitor it really is a bargain. Honestly i couldn't be happier, all thanks to your review.
Thanks
Glad the review was helpful and that you're really enjoying the monitor! 🙂
After 1 month, how's the experience?. Backlight bleed and IPS glow on dark/bright room?
Can I just ask what settings you were using on the monitor?
Refer to the 'Best Settings' video (linked to in video description) or the calibration section of the review.
Do you recommend this screen games?
This should answer your question (though the review should as well) - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
HI,
is it possible to use mouse and keyboard connected to the hub with the usb-c laptop? I would like to use one desktop pc with normal display port and one laptop with usb-c and I am wondering if they can share the devices connected to the hub
Thank you!
Yes - that's the idea behind KVM, which this monitor supports. You can connect USB peripherals like that to the monitor and the monitor will assign them to the system connected via USB-C (your laptop) or USB-B (your desktop) according to the display signal being used (desktop or laptop).
@@PCMonitors Thank you for your answer!
Greetings from Türkiye. Thank you sir for your large review. I play story games and watch movies. Which one would you choose between Asus Rog XG27UCS & Dell G3223Q and this model? The price of Asus and Msi is almost the same. Dell is $125 more in Türkiye. Dell (+31,5 inches) - Asus (+10 bit) - MSI (+QD). Which one should I choose and why? Thank you very much in advance.
Per the review the MSI supports 10-bit and 12-bit colour (using the monitor's scaler), which is only useful if you actually require it and can use it for your workflow rather than for general consumption. Either way, that isn't a unique advantage of the ASUS at all. My own recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
@@PCMonitors I understand. Msi seems closer to me too. Now I need to do some more research and decide. Thank you sir. I wish you success in your work.
@@PCMonitors I think I will buy Odyssey Neo G7 😅
@@osmanatlihanOsman bey bende aynı ikilemde kaldım acaba şuan hangi monitörü aldınız?
@@ismailkarabucak748 İsmail Bey, Neo G7'ye karar vermiştim ancak ben alana kadar 22 binden 26 binlere çıktı fiyatı. Açıkçası sinir oldum bu duruma. Maddi durumdan ötürü ertelemiş oldum diyebilirim. Ancak indirimde bulsam şu an hemen alırım.
Hello and thanks for the review. How are you applying corrections to your colorimeter for this review? Are you using a spectro or just a stock correction file from your calibration software? If you you have a correction file especially for this monitor is it possible to share it? Which software are you using? Sorry for asking all these questions and thank you.
Thank you for your review. I bought this recently and have a question.
I was trying to connect my iPad Air 5 to this monitor via Type C cable that comes along with the IPad. It turns out that the monitor is not displaying and the iPad is not charging.
In my opinion, the cable might not support the DP Alt, hence the monitor is not able to display. However, I thought at least it would be able to charge the iPad even if it is not displaying.
Could it be this monitor’s USB C port is not functioning? Or the port requires USB3.1/ thunderbolt cable to charge as well (which USB 2.0 is not able to charge)?
Hopefully can get your advice on this. Thank you in advance!
I'm not sure why that would be I'm afraid. Might be worth contacting MSI support about it.
Excellent review, thank you!
Have you had a chance to check out the ASUS ROG XG27UCS? It's a relatively new monitor, similar price point and features. Mainly looking for a monitor with similar features that doesn't have the glow experienced in this video at 19:20, if such a monitor exists. Cheers!
I haven't used the XG27UCS, but it has a significantly narrower colour gamut than this one so isn't directly comparable. You won't find a monitor in the segment with significantly lower 'glow' than shown here. It's advisable not to sit in a dark room and if the room is generally dimly lit, consider bias lighting behind the screen.
@@PCMonitors Hi there, thanks for the helpful reply! Have you experience with Mini-LED monitors, such as the Innocn 27m2v? This monitor received some high praise when it was released around $750, and can now be found for under $500, putting it a similar price bracket as some of these IPS panels. I've read some Reddit threads about the 27m2v, and am currently trying to get to the bottom of understanding some quirks with local dimming that some say this monitor has. Otherwise, it seems many people agree that the contrast ratio is fantastic, and the monitor is great for HDR + local dimming gaming, with some blooming in certain circumstances.
Anyhow, would love your opinion on this one, if possible! Cheers :)
EDIT: the high praise I'm referring to is from Displayninja, PCWorld, Rtings, and some Reddit users, for what it's worth!
I think it's worth trying out if you want a good value HDR solution. But it's not "amazing" in that respect given it's a relatively limited zone-count IPS without a 'low glow' panel. It's hard to argue with the value - expect some quirks and weird firmware issues but also expect a nice general performance from it.
@@PCMonitors Hey man, thanks again for this. That's the impression I had, too. The thing is, there doesn't seem to be other options in this price range, besides the MSI in this video of course. Compared with the MSI, do you have an opinion on how they'd fare against each other with office work (browsing etc, no photo editing), and SDR gaming? Because if the two monitors would be similar for these purposes, it would seem like the 27M2V would be the best choice, given its HDR capabilities and better contrast ratio with local dimming enabled.
Been watching more of your vids btw, subbed, great stuff!
The MSI has better overdrive tuning, with a 'single overdrive mode experience'. Whereas with the Innocn the optimal setting depends on refresh rate. The MSI uses DC dimming and is truly flicker-free, whereas the Innocn uses high frequency PWM which some can find uncomfortable. Outside of that performance characteristics are pretty similar for normal SDR usage. As a side note unrelated to image performance, the MSI also has better build quality.
This vs Acer XV275K? Which one is good?
KVM,PIP,PBP are must requirement.
My recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
Is this monitor work well with ps5?
Yes it will.
@PCMonitors Would you see it as an worthy upgrade coming from Gigabyte M28U or is it too small to really notice?
@@derzeedy Pretty similar, but vibrancy is quite a bit higher if you like that sort of thing.
Hi,
Is it possible to use the KVM switch function via the monitor's menu using the joystick?
Or is it only possible with the Productivity Intelligence app what needs to be installed on both PCs?
Unfortunately, I cannot install it on my work PC.
Thanks
You can just use the OSD to control KVM on the monitor, no need for software.
I got a line of dead pixels that randomly appeared and disappeared after buying this monitor for a week , i sent back to the retailer and said they can't recreate this issue and would do anything for it....
That sounds odd, but probably some form of artifact rather than actual dead pixels. Because several dead pixels in a line is unlikely and those 'dead pixels' then all reviving themselves is essentially impossible.
What’s the number of it’s ppi ? And for ps5 which speed mode should I use ?
Well it's a 27" 3840 x 2160 model, so 163.18 PPI. As covered in the review it has a 'single overdrive mode experience' with the 'Fast' setting. So use that.
Not sure if you covered it specifically in the video but does the vrr and hdr work on the ps5?
Yes.
Hi, whats the difference with this panel and the MSI MAG 274UPFE2 4K Ultra.
The backlight - this one has a QD LED backlight with significantly wider gamut.
@PCMonitors I'm sorry so what does that mean
I'd recommend watching the colour reproduction section of the review. It explains what effect the wide colour gamut has on the image. Basically it increases saturation and vibrancy potential.
Is it recommended over LG 27GR93U ?
My recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
I see all the sides of the screen are very noticeably dimmer than the center , this makes working on white background very annoying and disappointing. Why can't they make the light uniform across the screen??!! I've bought the mag 274qrf qd e2 2k monitor from msi which has the same kind of issue which I can not tolerate and so returned. Is this common for IPS panels or just that they don't care to quality check ?? My 1080p 60 hz monitor from 7 years ago has 1000 times better brightness uniformity and still running. I don't understand why these new monitors with all those latest technology are soo badly put together or manufactured? Please give your thoughts on this in the reply.
Uniformity issues vary between individual units and it isn't uncommon to see such issues, particularly for larger monitors. Viewing angle imperfections also play a role, so you may notice such issues are less noticeable if you sit a bit further back from the screen.
@@PCMonitors I check 2 units of the model I mentioned, both had same issue, the brighter parts of the screen are warm in color and dimmer parts are cool. I even saw a review from china which pointed about the same issue . And now I am watching your review and here I see the same issue too. The severity of the issue maybe more or less depending on the unit but it is present on all units regardless. Is this issue occurs for backlight ? Does the backlight not cover the whole screen ? Do oled monitors also have this issue ? I hope not!
The issue is common on many monitors, but it's more obvious on models with QD LED backlights because of the spectral intensity. Any colour temperature irregularities are exaggerated, in other words, because the tints one way or the other are stronger.
@@PCMonitors QD led monitors are available to consumers for more than 3 years now, why don't they improve the irregularity? Are QD led panels on development for improvement for ips panels or are they just working on improving just oleds?
Will we see better uniformity on QD ips displays in coming years ?
@@Hasan2k15 LCDs will always have irregularities, especially in the consumer space where they're mass manufactured products which aren't produced to tight uniformity standards in most cases. And there's nothing you can do to alter any uniformity issues being clearer on QD LED, because it's a physical property of the light and you can't change that.
Hello，Excuse me MPG274UPF QD 27 Monitor connect PS5 can open VRR OR ALLM？thx
@@风铃-f3m Per the review, HDMI 2.1 VRR is supported. ALLM is irrelevant for monitors, it's designed for TVs where they have distinct game modes with lower latency.
@@PCMonitors thanks for the reply。
Do you recommend this monitor for ps5?
It should work well with the PS5, yes. I recommend it for gaming on various platforms - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
How similar of a panel is this monitor to the 274 urf w? just the color of the monitor and extra rbg?
I believe it uses the same CELL (panel minus backlight). But a different backlight is used on this one - hence the significant gamut difference from the 'QD LED' backlight.
@@PCMonitors i just bought it and am waiting for it to come it. ive been using the 32 samsung chg 70 monitor a while and hdmi 2.0 and vrr flicker is very bad. i think it will be a smart upgrade. the 4k "120" call of duty will be nice too. i was confused on the console mode if it locked the resolution to 1440p or stayed at the native 4k. your videos are awesome and inciteful keep up the great work!
@@ChaseArkansas 3 weeks later, what are your thoughts, if it arrived?. Issues with backlight bleeding and IPS glow on every room settings (Dark, light)?
@DVTHEFOX I basically learned turn everything off run free sync and fastest setting has way less ghosting than I anticipated. The series x games in 4k have shown a dramatic increase in fidelity for me. I love having the space to run my cables through and it Def has a strong ips glow but the colors are so vibrant maybe oranges a little too vibrant but over all nice bright beautiful color. It's insanely responsive with hdr off and is a great call of duty monitor
I play with the lamp behind it and it's a beautiful experience thus far especially at thay 350 price point. Absolute bargain
How long is the input lag?
35:08.
I am going to buy this monitor very soon, thank you so much for your review and a hard work
Did ya got it in the end?. If so, thoughts?
I am still trying to decide between this and gigabyte m28u @@DVTHEFOX
This or sony inzone m9?
My recommendation is clear - pcmonitors.info/articles/best-gaming-monitors/.
Can you control the audio with the OSD or the joystick? I had a G274QPF that had a pretty bad audio output that meant having pretty low volume coming from my speakers 90% of the time. Looking for something I can use for work + console gaming and considering this one.
There's no volume control on the monitor, which I believe is standard for MSI monitors without integrated speakers.
@@PCMonitors pity, thanks for replying tho!
@@PCMonitors Not the built in speakers but for headphone jacks there usually is a volume control provided in LG monitors similar to brightness. Not sure about MSI monitors.
@@PCMonitors in case anyone else has the same question:
Ended up getting this monitor and, even though there's no volume control AT ALL on the OSD or Gaming Intelligence app... The audio output in this one is miiiiiiiles ahead of their G and MAG monitors. I'm assuming that's one of the areas where they cut costs in their budget line, but at least in this mid-line monitor it's more than enough for my iLoud Micro monitors.
Wouldn't have gone for it if it wasn't for this review so thanks a lot!
Does this monitor support Nividia G-Sync?
Yes (as covered in the video).
@@PCMonitors it doesnt support it officially but it runs with no problem right ?
@@THEJOKEYJOKER Correct. It's not certified but works properly anyway.
Bro test monitors on other games like fc24 and forza
Why would I test a monitor on a game I don't play? Also, the points raised in the review apply to any game or indeed other tasks performed on the monitor. So no - that would be a waste of time and isn't going to happen.
Do you know if in terms of panel this model is equivalent to the 274upf?
I believe it is based on the same panel, but with a different backlight. The colour gamut is therefore completely different, significantly wider on this model.
Does this monitor support Local Dimming?
I'd recommend watching the HDR section of the review, that's covered.