To save you a bunch of money a 2 stroke won't be any better. I have spent the last year riding and racing harescrambles and learning to ride woods. The feeling of needing a bike to be able to lug down more is a sure sign you just need to ride faster, and yes I know that sounds dumb but the way bikes work is they work better the faster you go. To a point of course, but I went through this same thing of hitting rocky areas and wanting to slow down and lug through it...killing the bike...losing balance....dabbing a ton and just feeling like the bike was no good for that stuff. Till I started just hitting those areas 2, 3 or 4 mph faster and keeping the throttle turned on a little. Now they are nothing and I see my mistake. hope this helps.👍
I agree with you...I see rock gardens and I slow down...doing all the things you mention dabbing..losing balance and momentum. Thanks for the advice and the input about the 2 stroke....my thinking is way off now that I am hearing experienced riders giving me input. Appreciate it.
For single track here in the Northeast 2T is the way to go... But the 250FX is capable and you're going to learn a lot riding this bike. Balance along with clutch throttle control are the name of game no matter what engine you have under you.
You bought the correct bike especially being new. This is the exact bike i would recommend to someone getting into the sport. You did a good job on the choice. 2 strokes are no easier than that, i promise you!
@@pete8149 Your welcome and check out dirtbike channel on youtube the guy Kyle test all kinds of trail bikes and your bike is the one he can put the fastest lap times on.
I personally have both and I can tell for enduro, woods and single track riding my ktm 300 xcw 21 is my go to bike, it feels lighter, more maneuverable and a power delivery that is more useable. I love 4 stroke too but I feel like they perform better on the track or in the send.
I understand the frustration, but that's just riding man. Just take your time and be patient with yourself. I raced harescrambles on my 2003 YZ250 and I had a blast. I did a few seasons with that. However, I always wished I had a 250f. Now I finally have one and love it so much. Just have fun with your bike man. Don't worry so much about maps, focus on your riding and techniques. Use that clutch too! It's easy to get clutch plates for under 100$ and replace them
I am originally from Altoona area now over in Harrisburg area. Yeah I grew to love this bike after owning it 2 years now. Your right clutch control is a major factor when learning to ride.....especially singletrack. Wish I had found woods riding years ago ....so much fun. Thanks for your input I appreciate it. Have you ever been to Rock Run in Patton, PA? That is more the area I grew up in the old coal towns and strip mining back when I was a kid.
@@garysmith5394 I just bought the same bike and it was hard as hell to manage on tight single track . Constant flame outs and I'm coming from a WR. Ordered a Rekluse and that will fix all when I install next week.
Try raising the idle to reduce stalling. Try a higher gear for lugging. The Yamaha 250 4-strokes are capable of pulling 3rd in many places. It’ll smooth out the power. Spin your clickers out so you not deflecting off everything. Great bike.
Bike choice doesn’t really matter honestly, being completely comfortable on whatever bike you choose is way more important than having a better bike. Put in more hours riding and try to ride faster, that’s the best thing you can do to ride better
A 2 stroke is no better in the rocks? You guys have hit your heads too many times, or you're trying to ride a MX bike in the woods. Go ride a current 300XC or XC-W then come back and say that.
I have a 22 FX and I ride some serious rocky stuff. Stock form the bike is not setup for this. I have re-valved the suspension to make it more plush. I fitted a weighted flywheel as well as a traction disk which you fit to the clutch basket. Man does this bike lug now. It's got bottom end for days. I leave it on the standard MX map and never even use the mapping switch. It's just perfect. Doesn't stall unless you to lazy on the clutch sometimes but then it's your own doing. When I crack the throttle this bike is still very responsive and exciting to ride.
Since your running a traction disk on one side, is there a specific weight (oz.) of flywheel you need for the other side? Sorry if that question sounds dumb. Don't have no experience in dealing with either. Appreciate your reply and your experience with this bike. Thanks.
@@pete8149 it's around 200g. Basically the most you can fit to it. They have pretty small flywheels. I have had no need to change the stock sprockets either since doing this. Honestly a game changer.
Sounds like your trying to sell yourself on it. You know deep down you’d rather have a different bike so sell or trade it for a yz250x 2 stroke. you’ll be having way more fun on a 2 stroke. Don’t feel bound to your first decision I pretty much get a new bike every year cuz I get bored and want to try something else plus it gives me content for my channel.
I own a shop and get to ride pretty much everything. I personally own a 2019 KTM 250XC (because its the last year of carb bikes, with Kickstart, kickstand, and electric start) buy for reasons that matter not nuance differences in handling. I think you are right in your thinking that it's the rider not the bike. The rider that rides everyday and has built up his ability will walk away from both of us on a CRF125F. Just get out there enjoy the ride. Let the bike be the bike and enjoy the struggle. When you get better it will be more rewarding that you started on a "more difficult bike". Then switch to a 2 stroke and learn a new struggle. They all have ups and downs nothing is perfect or we would all have it.
Thanks for the advice. I wasn't going to post this video originally, but glad I did. To hear everyones opinion, tips and advice has been great. The struggle is real...but I am enjoying every minute of it.
I've ridden off and on for sixty years. The FX is a wonderful bike for going fast. I, like you, have not found a setting for going slow without really working the clutch and throttle. I bought a Beta 300 and now the FX sits in the garage. Slow going, rocks, no problem. Just put it in third gear and enjoy your ride. Stay safe!
Glad to see your still out riding....I wish I would of started years ago when I was younger but I am just glad I found woods riding. Thanks for the reply....appreciate the input.
Just keep ridin a d practicing. It'll come together. Thats a nice bike and can handle most everything you can throw at it. Like others mentioned maybe a sprocket change and/or revalve the forks to get a better feel... 😉
These are great bikes it will last a long time if maintained! And like you mentioned, most of your trail difficulties would be the same on any bike. To help with the stalling give this map a try on your power tuner map. It will be basically detuning the bike a bit but it helps it not stall and is way softer and easier to ride right off the bottom/idle, then ramps back up to "normal power". Ignition: 0, 0, 0, 0 -1,-1,-1,0 -3,-3,-1,0 -5,-3,-1,0 Fuel: 0,0,0,0 0,0,0,0 1,1,0,0 3,1,0,0 This map should give a softer more rideable bottom end, be more stall resistant, easier starting, but still keep a ton of performance in the mid to high rpms.
Thank you for sharing... I have owned and ridden over 60 different bike so yes I agree with you that a 2S bike is going to be easier to ride tight gnarly single track especially when you are new. But once you progress your skills on a 2S you will do equally well on the 4S. What I would suggest if you can is get an older 2S for cheap and ride it on the same trails and master your skills. When it comes to 2S not all bikes are the same. If you get a motocross 2S you will face exactly the same issues with a light flyhweel and the bike will want to be on the pipe all the time and will end up hurting you. I would recommend a 2S woods bike like a KDX200 or Yamaha wr250 or RMX250 or an older KTM 200/250/300 EXC. Now this may sound dumb but an even better choice would be a trail based 4s like TTR230 or CRF250F to learn on as those machines are designed with low compression ratios and immense bottom end (but you give up top end power which you dont need anyway if you are a new rider)... A slow bike will give you the skills you need and then you would be very fast and very comfortable on a fast bike on the same trails... My first bike was an RMZ450 and I almost hated dirtbikes immediately. I switched to an old KTM 250EXC and it was like magic... Never looked back.
It is hard to switch over from the street, I started off on a 2015 yz250f for trail riding. Make sure you idle is fast enough, and unlike the street you have to slip the clutch all the time in the tight stuff and learn throttle control, you got a good bike to learn on, just give it time, 2t are hard to ride also. Now I have a yz450fx and that thing is a monster you have to tame with a cluch. If you are in PA, go to rush offroad in eastern KY, fast flow trails so you can get used to it. Also think twice before you go recluse, yes it makes it easier to ride tight stuff but also keeps you from learning the cluch, my yz250f had one, I will not put one in my new bike, takes the snap out when you pop the cluch and sometimes it will disengage and you will lose engine breaking at idle. Also you lose using the transmission as a parking brake when you are not riding. Hang in there.
Appreciate the info. I haven't installed a Rekluse and haven't did a flywheel weight either. I appreciate everyone's input...but I figure if I am going to learn to ride offroad might as well keep everything how I bought it. Also haven't done the throttle tamer either.....I thought about them all but came to conclusion that like you said .."learn throttle control and learn clutch control" .... I have messed with some more detuned maps and stuff. Appreciate the input.
You could go up on the rear sprocket and get some more grunt. I own one but I am a A level rider. It's a great motorcycle. I also ride MX and the bike is great on the track. I went from the stock 50 rear to a 48 and rip through the woods. Find some friends and have fun. Just a reminder for you as an entry level rider go up a tooth on the rear sprocket should help you with the slow sections.
You will be fine. I bought a "race" four stroke as well and ride in relatively tight single track. My goal was to compete so I have the bike I want. It takes quality seat time and more seat time. Not garbage time on the bike. You can't afford it riding only weekends. Word of caution, let someone know where you're riding. Notify them when you start and when you finish. A garmin Inreach is not a bad idea. I too ride alone. On a training ride I crashed and broke my neck. I was able to ride out of the woods, load my bike and drive to the e.r. I was fortunate, it didn't have to turn out that way. Enjoy that fx!
Dang broke your neck.....how long was that recovery? The wife knows when I go and I tell her how many hours I will be out. Appreciate all the advice thanks.
@@pete8149 LOL Still off the bike. Broke my neck July 17th (C2 and C5). Bones have healed but they are misaligned. I start physical therapy Tuesday for hopeful results. One more piece of advice if I may. I was not wearing a neck brace. My injury is the exact injury neck braces are designed to prevent. I was not against wearing one like many are but I had spent so much on gear I chose not to purchase "optional" gear. It was almost a fatal mistake. I try to share my story when applicable without preaching because I'm not. I do feel safe saying the only people against neck braces have never broken their neck. Cheers
I also got a Torquey map that came in maps plus I downloaded a second Torquey map....like them both and do run it back and forth with Woods #2 map. Thanks for the reply, appreciate the input.
Sweet!! I'm looking to buy one just not sure if I'm going for 250fx or 450fx. I ride open desert/desert trails and hill climb. I weigh 188lbs. Would that 250fx carry me around no issue in softer sand??
@@EPT915G I never road sand/desert conditions. I ride singletrack here on east coast. So I wouldn't have any knowledge on riding in that terrain. I weigh 195 lbs....and bike has no problems with my weight......but I am not riding the conditions/terrain and speeds that you would be. There is utube channel... "Dirtbike Sam"....I think it is....I think he does the desert stuff on a yz250fx might want check it out. He would have knowledge on those conditions. Thanks for the reply and best of luck on the new bike.
I ride FRO as well. 2T vs. 4T in the rocky single track really won’t make a difference, as others have mentioned. Dial in the suspension and you’ll be able to chug along with little to no stalling. I had a ‘20 FX and didn’t like the handling much until I sent the suspension to Factory Connection and got it setup for my weight and skill level. Then it was awesome in the rocks and roots! Rarely stalled it because then I could blast the rough sections. Plus you just can’t beat a 4T on rough/slippery uphills. I’m now riding a Husqvarna TE150i but there are times I miss that 250FX!
After 10yrs of road racing I bought a 21' YZ250FX. Suspension was perfect for MX, but way too stiff for trails. I revalved and that helped a ton. I then resprung the front and that helped more. Resprung again this week so hopefully that'll allow me to use most of my travel. Out back the stock spring and my revalve is really good. I'm a c class 165lb rider and the stock suspension is setup for a much faster larger person. Get your suspension done. As for the rest... well I feel the bike is perfect. I want the throttle to be aggressive and responsive.
I got hooked up on suspension guy my Yamaha shop referred him. I got to drop it off getting it done over winter, only 45 minutes from where I live. So I am going take the whole bike, he said he will get me setup cause I am clueless with suspension setup. Thanks for the reply...appreciate your input.
Four years ago I got back into riding after nearly a 25 year layoff (work, kids, travel sports, etc.). I purchased a new 2019 YZ250FX and ride the same type of trails at AOAA, Mountain Ridge and other Pennsylvania areas. I have my bike setup with a G2 Throttle Tamer, different link and the Torque Map and my bike is pretty good in the rocks and tight trails. Different tires will also help since the stock tires are not a soft compound. My bike can lug and is way more difficult to stall over a stock bike. To get better at riding tighter trails I added the G2 Throttle Tamer and Torque Map and rode in slow figure 8s in my yard for weeks. Learning throttle and clutch control while getting use to your bike will change your mind about the YZ250FX. For hard enduro a 2 stroke may be better but for the trails around us the YZ250FX is pretty versatile and can handle most any terrain. Join the ThumperTalk Forum and go to the YZ250FX page. I started a Map thread that is posted at the top section of the YZ250FX Forum. Other riders have added their Maps for different setups and conditions. Its also a wealth of information for all things YZ250FX. Don’t get rid of the bike just yet…….
What are you talking about "different link".... you mean lower the suspension linkage? You run the torque map that came with the bike, I have that one plus I downloaded another one off the FX mapping page on FB. Also, joined Thumper talk...appreciate the suggestion.
@@pete8149 The 2019 and earlier models of the FX have a bit of a stink bug effect being a bit higher in the back than the front. I changed out the suspension link lowering the back about 20mm and then played with fork height in the clamps. I never rode my bike on MX tracks so I had no issues with the suspension. It lowered the seat height about an inch and turns better than the stock setup. The YZ250FX has been a great bike but now I’m looking to sell it and buy a new bike. I only have 43 hours on my bike and I babied it so it is in great shape. My son has grown out of his bike so we are looking at possibly getting 2 Beta 200rr. I want to get back into a 2 stroke and the 2023 200rr model looks to be a good bike for my riding and a great step up bike for my son.
The 300 2 stroke is probably the greatest bike to own if you mostly ride woods whether fast and flowy or tight. They are also very good for the occasional MX open practice days. I have a 2020 300TX Husky and I ride that twice as much as my 450 4 stroke mx bike.
I had a four stroke 350 Husky and loved it but struggled in the rocks, like you I live in a hilly rocky area. I ended up buying a 300 two stroke. Just be careful trying to ride at a level where the four stroke will work in the woods. BTW: Sold my Harelys for dirt bikes too.
Your name...youns enduro..... are you from western pa originally? I originally am and we always said "what are youns doing" and when I dated a girl from Philly she always said "what are youz doing"....was a west and east PA thing ...I still say "Youns" today as a adult it has stuck with me..... So did the 2 stroke help you ride better in the rocky terrain?
Re valve the suspension you can send it to fastlap … the suspension is way to stiff for that I did mine it is a game changer …. A recluse should help with th luging
Yea I disagree … well I mean a 2 stroke won’t help . I live in PA and unless you’re a A rider doing really hard stuff , I’d personally rather have the 4 stroke. In example I bought a full MX bike not even a X or FX or anything and I like it just fine.
I started off on a 250FX and I just recently bought a Sherco 250 SE 2 stroke. The difference is night and day on single track. The FX is fun in the fast flowy stuff like you said... but so is the Sherco and it feels WAY easier to ride the tight stuff. I wish I would have started off on the Sherco. Also it has a map switch and the tame map is very manageable for a new rider.
Still like the bike it will be a year at the end of February. I eventually want to move on to a 2 stroke because there is some slower stuff I would like to try to get into....and this bike not a good fit for that....thanks for the reply and input. Enjoy the new bike!
Best bike ive ever had is my 2015 yzf250f i can keep up with everyone else on there 250 2 strokes and 450s and ive never blew a yamaha up, ive blown a ktm 125 and a kxf250 withen a week of owning
Once you are comfortable, I’d recommend getting into 2T. 250-300 carbureted 2T is the way to go. Find a good deal on an older one in good condition, then spend some on the savings on a SMARTCARB and you’re set for life with no headaches. Also 2T super easy to work on yourself.
That is the direction I am heading. Love the bike now, but I do believe 2T will benefit me more and I agree on looking for a deal and I have rebuilt many sportbike/bobber carbs so familiar territory there. Thanks for your input...appreciate it.
I run a 21 FX, I run with the 300’s all day long. It’s a very capable bike. For stalling don’t be afraid to get into the maps. For tight slow sections I run the bigger flywheel and have made a map that works for my riding style. It doesn’t stall, it’ll tractor along. For both fuel & ign on the maps: 10% 20% 40% 80% 2500rpm 5500rpm 8500rpm 10500rpm Fuel (left to right, top to bottom): -1, -2, -1, 0,-1, -2, -2, -2, -1, -1, -1, +1, -1, -1, 0, +1 Ign: +3, +3, +3, +3, +2, +2, +2, +3, +2, +2, +2, +2, +1, +2, +2, +2 Granted this works for me in my area (I’ve done a bunch of tweaking to this map) but I’ve found this map pretty resistance to stalling. The flywheel really helps too.
Hey thanks alot...I am going to type it in and give it a try. I can't find flywheel for the 2022 yet. You remember where you got yours from? Appreciate the input and reply.
The WR250 would have been a better choice for rocks climbing rough trails. Softer sprung with wide ratio transmission. As your skills progress on the fx you should be able to make it work for what ever .
I have a 20 250fx. Put an 8 cell antigravity battery, turned the idle up 500 rpm, and put a gytr flywheel on it. Bike rarely ever stalls after the flywheel, and idle adjustment. I run the Travis Pastrana tune most of the time.
Where you get the flywheel? When I search everywhere is sold out of them. I do have idle bumped up now and been running Woods 2 map but still has little more engine break than I want. Are you using the TP map for singletrack? Thanks for the reply and info.
2 strokes like the GG 300ec are perfect for that style of riding, saying that the 2 stroke takes a lot of rider skill, they are unforgiving and have gobs of power. I ride a 2 stroke and they will try and kill you. 4 strokes are like Cadillacs in comparison. You can make any Bike easier to ride for your style, flywheel weights, 1 tooth smaller front sprocket or a Rekluse Clutch, which is the most expensive upgrade but they are awesome.
I have looked for flywheel weight and 1 tooth smaller front sprocket but so far everyone is out of stock. So if anyone knows where I can find....would appreciate the info. Thanks for the information appreciate it.
@@pete8149 Also G2 Throttle cams are great, you can customize the throttle with that system, I use the 200 Cam on my 2 stroke, it has 4 stroke roll on power. They are supposed to be rolling out the Lock On grip system to the G2 line this year.
I’m over in NJ. In a few years I want to move into PA. Some of my family is over there already. I got a CRF450RL but would like to get a dirt bike once I’m over there. In NJ there’s no places to ride so I had to get a dual sport. How is it riding in PA without a plate? Thank you.
Only Experience I got is riding Famous Reading Outdoors. I am from western PA originally and I know a couple places out there, but they are like here...pay $$ to ride. I love Reading Outdoors as far as a place to ride. Only have road couple of there properties, but each one has a little something different to offer over the next. Lots singletrack, rocks, technical stuff, hard enduro type stuff and some lots are more known for the hill climbs. So a variety with a membership here.
@@pete8149 that sounds pretty nice. Rather pay to ride than ride and run. I don’t want to have to be looking over my shoulder while trying to relax and enjoy my time. Over in NJ we have our state forests with a lot of single track and sand pits. The sand can be challenging. I’m starting to get better at handling it but I have to make my bike more friendly to off roading as I’m still running the stock tires and have been recommended to switch out the pipe and ECU.
@@pete8149 also I didn't really read through the comments so idk if anyone mentioned it or not but try turning your idle up a bit it should help with stalling. I was stalling a lot on my new 4 stroke when I got it till someone told me to do it it makes a world of difference.
Been on the bike for 2 1/2 years now, just took some learning to ride it, first dirtbike... taught myself, don't have no riding partners or anyone to show me anything. Love the bike now. Just bought a 2 stroke in the spring so now learning to ride it and yes it is alot of clutch use on both bikes riding in the woods. Thanks for the input. Appreciate it.
Where is this at? I live in PA and what your describing is exactly what I'm looking for, I have plenty of trails but I get sick of sneaking around on private property
This is Famous Reading Outdoors. They have properties in a few different locations that you can ride. It requires a membership but it is year round access. They have website you can look at. I am not sure of what part of state you live but this is in Pottsville, PA area.
I'm in the same boat. Owned street motorcycles. Now own a dual-sport motorcycle. I have some extensive pedal mountain bike riding experience under my belt. That took a good 6mo to feel good and 2 years months of riding trails for an hour or so almost every day after work, on weekends 4 hours or more to master. Plus had to build up my leg strength for the trails. There's no sitting on my ass on the trails mountain bike riding. I am sure the same goes for motorcycle/dirtbike trail riding. No, I can't throw around my dual-sport motorized bike as I do on my mountain bike on the trails. At least not yet. My suggestion is to watch some UA-cam training videos pertaining to dirtbike riding, do the exercises with the bike and train the body shown in the videos. Keep searching for advanced videos after your skills increase. Maybe search your local area for a private enduro track where they offer coaching. These days I go out almost every day with my dual-sport, and do the exercises, ride a little, and repeat the exercise. Nothing crazy. I can tell that I'm getting better at handling the dual-sport on the single tracks, and road. It'll take a while longer before I'm ripping it up on the trails. Until then it is what it is, and it's a slow go. I'd rather keep my bones intact. You know it don't come easy.
Appreciate the advice. I think some of my problem is mental confidence when I do get to hard obstacles/rock gardens. I have been working on standing more and been working in my yard just on a balance drill technique...got small yard so can't do no riding practice. (Rich Larsen has some good training stuff...but still a little advanced for me to try, I like his clutch control and balance tutorials.) Thanks for the input....there is a lot of useful suggestions to take from it. Thanks.
Why don’t you show us a video of what you are riding??? Did you change the front sprocket and gear it down? If your not doing hard enduro type of terrain that bike should be fine. Go to a 12 tooth sprocket and keep practicing. I ride my 250f in the woods but it’s not a dedicated woods bike, I do feel what your saying with feathering the clutch but it can be learned. I would like to see a clip of the terrain you ride.
No hard enduro...just long rock gardens and everyday rocky trails. Will see if I can find some specific examples and post a link to you. Thanks for the information...appreciate it.
I have the same 22 yz250fx. It's a race bike, needs suspension revalved, heavy flywheel, throttle cam and hydraulic clutch for what we are using them for. I uploaded 2 videos on this bike explaining the mods for rocky singletrack.
I agree with the folks how are saying all bikes are going to require the same skills to ride in technical terrain. You can stall the gruntiest 2 stroke. You can slip the stalliest four stroke through the rocks. The more technical the terrain the more balance/brake/clutch/throttle, often under simultaneous exercise, you will need to exhibit to succeed no matter what bike you are on. I have been racing a KTM300XC for 4 years now in every discipline but hard-enduro. I think it really depends on what kind of riding you are doing. If you are not racing there isn't any reason to have enormous explosive power. Some of the Beta 300s like the Xtrainer have wonderful torque and mild manners. I have a 2006 CRF250X that refuses to stall at low RPMs even more so than my 300XC (but the crf250x has a few mods). A smooth clutch means more to me than the perfect engine. We racers do A LOT of clutch slipping, so if your finger(s) are fatigued on the clutch, that is more an indication that you are doing it right. We will carry 3rd gear sometimes down to almost stopping and slip the clutch instead of downshifting. We will put pressure on the clutch to increase the engine rpm even at relatively fast speeds (nowhere near stalling). We dump the clutch into a revved engine to lift the front end over rocks, roots, small downed trees, mud holes, ditches, etc. LOTS of clutch use. Go to some of the many good UA-cam trainers and study. Then go practice. You will improve. Your confidence will go up and you will have more fun. You will crash. That is part of it. Ride with the Knights, MotoAcademy, Chris Birch "Say No to Slow", and Tyler Livesy are some of the best teachers on the internet.
Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed reply I really appreciate it. Alot of good info in this response. I always downshift thinking I will bog the bike down to much but am going to try to learn to use the clutch more. I am not a racer...never will have the skill or speed to do so....got into riding later in life here but just would like to be able to ride a steady decent pace while being able to hit obstacles (logs/rocks) on the fly. Lot to learn yet and am enjoying the slow process of learning. Thanks again for the info.
I entered my first dirtbike race just 5 years ago when I was 48. I currently race in the 50B class. It's been a long intense awesome journey. I love to trail ride and enter dual-sport events as well but knowbody wanted to ride as much or as fast as I did so racing was the answer for me. @@pete8149
Yeah that's a Damn Good Bike - Its Kinda Heavy in tight stuff - Maybe spend a few hundred to Revalve the Fork and Shock to ENDURO specs and Just Ride........Worth a Try - The Compression Valving Is the KEY to that bike - Go Way Softer - ALSO ADD 2 teeth to the rear sprocket makes the bike feel Peppy everywhere - First gear is like a granny gear and you'll find yourself always near 3rd gear where the power is - With a 6 speed Tranny you won't miss Top End Speed - Also Remap the fuel might help - in Idle or Mid area - You add fuel but reduce timing a Tad to get torque - as I remember.....ask Yamaha or Ask some dude who knows. If all that doesn't help look into new KTM 250XCF with Air Fork.......I hear lots of good things...They are around 16 lbs lighter as I remember ? GAS GAS "Red KTM cost a little less but its the Same Bike - less Bling CHEERS
Thanks for the information. I need to find where I can get my suspension done at here in PA. Will also look into the sprocket too. I need to talk to couple of the racers that ride the properties I ride and see if they have any suggestions on where to get suspension work done at. Thank You.
Change the sprockets and put a fly wheel weight in it!! That will help! No a 2 stroke is even harder!! I know! I am getting a four stroke!! I have a yz125x!! A 4 stroke lugs better then a 2 stroke!! I am 62 and can rip the 2 stroke but I want the best of both worlds the fx and 125x are great on track and single track!!
I am going to change front sprocket...looked at fly wheel weights just have not found any in stock for my bike. Thanks for the reply, appreciate your input.
I have the same bike mine is 2021, and let me tell you that is a fantastic bike, the first few rides that I did on it I stall it a lot but now I'm feathering the clutch and rarely stall it, riding on rocks is very difficult, you just need to ride as much as you can and that's the key.
Thanks for the reply, I am working on my clutch control when riding and also, every time I ride at the end or beginning, I will do some drills on engagement point on boulders/logs. Appreciate the input.
Did you have the suspension set up for you? Usually stock these suspensions are set up a little stiffer than what I’d want to see for a harescramble bike. It’ll feel more luggy if you set it up for a woods bike that spends its time in 1st-3rd gear.
Today after work I called my Yamaha Dealer down the road. They gave me a place that people use around here. Contacted him and waiting for reply. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
Old vid but also change sprockets maybe 12 front 51 rear work the tuning more you can help it there but your right it would take a whole garage to hold all the bikes u need lol but the one you have is fine the auto cluch really do work great ,but I prefer a manual,I also have installed a recluse all steel cluch basket which helps w crank weight mine is a 2018 450 so I also have a detuned map that kinda helps a little but not much but it helps ,also there are throttle tamer out there that calms down the jumpy throttle. So it can be good but maybe a trials bike or ktm much lighter.too
I have 2015 250FX was my first dirt bike bought in my late 30s. The echo others the suspension is going to make a huge difference. The service manually should show the default rebound and compression values (clicks). I would just try going all out (clicks) and make the bike super soft front and rear. This is super easy to do (even trailside) and undo and you don't need to spend any money. Put a zip-tie on your front fork, you may find you are getting nowhere close to utilizing the full travel. I did this to my bike after some more experiences riders suggested it while out riding. My bike holds my line so much better, instead of getting bounced off the rocks its absorbing the hits and keeping me on my intended path. There are times it too soft but its usually some atv trail at a much higher speed, never in the single track i ride. As for a map, some people have suggested some maps that may be a better fit. I played with maps a little bit and the map that was the most forgiving to ham fisted throttle was the rain map. If you are getting bucked around and accidentally twisting the throttle and lurching forward that map may be more forgiving.
Not familiar with that map.... I contacted a suspension guy yesterday, waiting on return call, my local Yamaha shop suggested them so planning on getting it done soon as they can schedule it. Will do the zip tie method and see how much suspension I am actually using...Thanks for the tip and your reply, appreciate it.
I feel you I got a used 2014 yz250f 4 yrs ago & I really screwed up🤦♂️! The bike is nice it runs like no tomorrow, but it's literally the worst bike for East Coast woods or any woods riding! Plus I waited tell I was 43 with a job I can't be laid up with a broken arm or leg as it is to try & start riding😅🥳🙏! I wish I got a 2 stroke also🤦♂️! Maybe a KTM 300XC-W!!!!
Thanks for the review! Really appreciate your point of view. I'm in northeastern Canada, almost the same conditions as you ride in, and I bought a 2013 YZ125 about 3 years ago. Although it was lots of fun, it was a lot of work in single track situations. I sold it this year and got a 2021 YZ125X, which is incredibly better for woods riding, but still requires a lot of clutch feathering. If you go 2-stroke, I'd try the YZ250X.
Thanks for your input appreciate it. I have liked the bike the more I ride it...but I am looking on going to a 2 stroke later this fall. Been on this bike a year now and it has grown on me and now I want to move to a 2 stroke. The rough/rocky terrain has done me a lot of good learning woods riding....so after all said and done the bike is great....it was the lack of experience and skill that was/still is the problem. Thanks for the reply. Don't you like the yz125x or just wish you bought the 250?
@@pete8149 - I did a lot of researching before getting the 125X model, but I knew I wouldn't go for a higher displacement - I ride tight trails, so too much power can be a bit hard to manage when you have to give it just the right amount of throttle. I am also very light for a 50-year old. I'm 5'9", but only 145 lbs, so a 125 has more than enough power to haul me plenty fast 😁
I have a 2019 YZ250X and just put it up for sale. It is an absolute beast but riding in tight trails and rocky hill climbs it's hard to manage. It would be great out west where you can run at speed. No electric start, hard suspension and having to tinker with jets are also some downfalls to riding this bike slowly. The closest and best riding by me is Barnwell Mountain in Gilmer TX. It's an old iron ore mine and there aren't many places where this bike really shines there. Yes you can add flywheel weights, Lectron carburetors, throttle tamers and even e start but that cancels any benefit to getting one in the first place. The best bike for this type of riding is the KTM XC-W 300. 2 stroke with fuel and oil injection. PDS suspension. low weight and good dealer/parts support. It will lug all day and not flame out. It gives up some top end power but is smooth in the really rough stuff. They aren't cheap but you only live once. I have been selling my other toys and I am looking for a gently used one to replace my YZ.
My lack of knowledge from the beginning was where I went wrong from day one, as explained in video. I Don't know anyone with dirt bikes and I ride solo. I don't regret this purchase, love the bike and learning every ride its just a steep learning curve, wish I would have found woods riding when I was younger. Thanks for your reply.
@@pete8149 THe USa version of the WR250F does not come with a programmable ECU or the CCU communication module which is "WIFI" basically so it can't connect to the powertuner app.. The competition Ecu that makes the WR250F run as it was designed is expensive and sometimes hard to get due to the politically dummies running the world. The FX is one of the best bikes made, ultra reliable, solid bike, the suspension is a little stiff for the rocky slow sing track, but it's very versatile bike and HIGHLY undrated. the ktm300 is awesome, but you can go just as fast on the 250FX. I like both bikes, and have owned multiple 300s and 15, 17, 18, 19 and 20 FX's.
@@goneridingparts Appreciate the reply and your experience/knowledge. Checked out your channel "YZ250FX Crash", I've had a lot of crashes...but not that face first straight shot to the ground like that.... You got some editing skillz also.
@@pete8149 Thank you for the nice comments, my editing skills have a LONG long way to go.. lol. really appreciate that though.. I would enjoy making some videos just because I like to ride, but I work the other 99% of the time...
I wouldn’t say best bike ever. Too many electronics to make it easy to DIY fix. Anytime something electronic goes bad, you need a mechanic with a computer, blah blah
This was my first dirtbike.....so I might not be a good person to answer. But I can tell my experience for the last 2 years on it. The throttle is touchy....(alot of people put on a throttle tamer but I never did) just learned the bike stock as it was. Only thing I did was download a detuned map for learning woods riding but now I can ride woods in MX Map..and some other aggressive maps. It is a awesome bike after I learned to ride it in East Coast Rocky trails. I came off sportbikes so I did have motorcycle experience...just not dirtbike experience. I would say with the ability to detune the bike with your phone on the Yamaha App does lead to me to say it could be a good starter bike and as you progress you can change maps easily in seconds and as your skills get better download more power/aggressive maps through the app. Suspension is a little stiff in the beginning but I am 200 lbs and after it got broke in I softened it up and have no issues with it. Also if your riding woods best upgrade you can do right away is put tires on it for the terrain your riding. Any other questions drop a message will do my best to answer......This is a dirtbike "noobie" perspective. Thanks for the reply...hope I helped a little....
I’m getting a 24 250fx on Tuesday and I’m kinda nervous because I’ve heard they have problems starting and rod bearing problems have you had any problems
I have the 2022 and you speaking of the rod bearing is the first I have heard of this. The detuned maps for me tend to be the harder starts....when I say hard starting I mean it turns over two or three times before it starts....it is not a continuous cranking without start but it is a few seconds of cranking. There are videos of guys who race that have found ways to help them start quicker if it becomes a problem. I am a novice rider at best, so them one or two extra crank overs don't affect me...but they are not a everyday thing for me. My bike 98% of time is an instanst crank start. Sorry I can't give you a better answer for that question, just my own experience. I love this bike now, in the early days being a new rider I questioned my purchase, but I have no regrets now....best of luck and congrats on the new bike. If you have any other questions drop a reply and if I can answer it, I will.
@@pete8149 awsome thank you for replying yea I’m currently gonna be coming off owning a 23 kx250x which is more of a powerful 250, I raced that and then have a ktm125 so I do plan on racing the yz I just wanted to ask because I’ve heard some people the bike just won’t start at all so hearing that is definitely a relief !
@@pete8149 yea man i actually just got off it 10 minutes ago😂, absolutely love it super easy bike to ride fast in the trails I like it much better than my kx, I will say occasionally it had trouble starting in gear but very rarely, I will probably just get a better battery for it but overall I love it !
@urbancow8348 you might already know this but another thing that helps is turn the Idle up "while in gear"....Also if the "hard start in gear "..happens again, try giving your clutch knob a spin I feel when the bike is new that the clutch is a little tight till get worn a little...cause when you hit your button when it was hard starting did it lurch a little like the clutch was dragging?....just what I experienced when mine was new but if you keep clutch adjusted to me that is where the symptoms seem to come from. I am no mechanic....this was my first dirtbike but just things I observed in the beginning when it was new.....it will get better the more you ride it. Just few things that helped in the beginning....and yes I changed out the battery in the first few months ...these few things helped me in the early days. Glad you got your bike and best of luck with your racing.
I live close to wheeling wv and the biggest thing with the singke track is being able to ride a trail and maintain it and its a hell of a lot of work alone or even with just a few guys ive been working on one for over a year and honestly its been built out of luck for the terrian it just worked out
@@robertbaker9329 no actually lol everyone keeps telling me too and my aunt lives right near it. I ride thru smelters and up the hill to Rodriguez out roberts ridge
@@broughttoideas I’ve never been out there I wish I knew exactly where those trails were I’m always searching for new ones lol we should go ride sometime back in October I bought a 2023 yz250x
@@broughttoideas heck yeah I’m down but I’m a fair weather rider lol come spring I’ll be your guy lol seriously though I will go rip with you for sure man
The 2022 YZ250FX is the bike I wanted to buy when I finally parted ways with my 2003 KTM 525 EXC but they were unobtainable at that time so I ended up getting a 2022 Husqvarna TE250i and to tell you the truth I’m having mixed feelings after being on a four stroke for 20 years. I have owned quite a few 2 stroke MX and enduro bikes over the years as well as 4 stroke enduro and dual sport bikes. Each engine type has its pluses and minuses, quirks and things you must deal with. Right now I am still fiddling around with getting my Husqvarna to not foul plugs or run rich which makes it prone to loading up and fouling the plug. I think I have it sorted out now with the correct spark arrestor, spark plug and an ECU reflash from Slavens Racing. My 4 stroke bikes never fouled plugs and run cleaner than the 2 strokes do. When you can get a 2 stroke running right they are awesome for all real dirt bike situations and almost all of the hardest and gnarliest rides I’ve been on were on 2 strokes. They are lighter, more flickable, instant power, great luggability and are just a blast to ride. But if I could do it all over and get any bike I want I would probably get a new KTM 350 EXC 4 stroke. For my age (66) and for the kind of riding I want and am able to do these days. It would be a better all around bike for me these days but my new Husqvarna is fast, light, very powerful and makes me feel like a young guy not afraid to tackle any trail. Dirt bike riding is about have fun and exhilarating thrills. You sound like you’re a little burned out on your YZ so sell it while it’s newer or keep it if you can afford it but buy yourself a proper 2 stroke trail bike like a 2024 KTM 250 EXC TBI and start grinning from ear to ear when you attack the trails in your area on your new bike. Best of luck to you and let us know what you decide to do.
Thanks for your advice and input. That is what I worry about getting a 2 stroke is getting it dialed in.....not real knowledgeable on them. Jetted many a 4 strokes over the years. I live this bike now because it is only dirt bike I have known. I have many a street bikes since I was 18. I do want to make a switch to a 2 stroke and keep this bike. I want to buy a used one that is couple years old.(not sure if that is a good thing or not). But would like to keep this bike and with that is why I would like to find a used one. Thanks for your reply it is good to hear from people who have the experience on both 2strokes and 4 strokes. Hopefully at the end of the riding season I can find a deal on a used 2 stroke.
No don’t do that. It’ll make it feel dumbed down. I actually went through that and put the stock one back on. I went with a throttle tamer and it made a decent difference.
Pete your bike is fine...it's the suspension guaranteed it needs revalved it will completely change the bike like night and day..I commented the other day on another video I am very close to you..I live in Manheim if you look me up on Facebook we can talk and do some riding just don't want to give info out on here... evo suspension company is 5 min from my house they can do your suspension for around 900.00
Did your bike come with the tuner app option? If so screw around with different maps. I'm currently building a good map option for my 2023 wr250f and these bikes are very similar. I cranked the low fuel up to 5 bottom left corner and the next set to 4 for the surrounding. Basically the bottom 4 squares. And then retard the ignition down to -4 and -3 for the surrounding 3 squares, that and brought the idle up to 2000 and it almost fixed the slow speed stalling option completely. Still working on the rest of the map but it made a noticeable difference.
Yes it has the tuner app. I currently run the Woods 2 map (for singletrack) and the Keefer Aggressive on Map1. Have experimented with alot of them but usually end up back to these two. I also found the 2000 rpm range for idle makes a big difference. Thanks for the input will look into your suggested settings . Thanks for the information.
To save you a bunch of money a 2 stroke won't be any better. I have spent the last year riding and racing harescrambles and learning to ride woods. The feeling of needing a bike to be able to lug down more is a sure sign you just need to ride faster, and yes I know that sounds dumb but the way bikes work is they work better the faster you go. To a point of course, but I went through this same thing of hitting rocky areas and wanting to slow down and lug through it...killing the bike...losing balance....dabbing a ton and just feeling like the bike was no good for that stuff. Till I started just hitting those areas 2, 3 or 4 mph faster and keeping the throttle turned on a little. Now they are nothing and I see my mistake. hope this helps.👍
I agree with you...I see rock gardens and I slow down...doing all the things you mention dabbing..losing balance and momentum. Thanks for the advice and the input about the 2 stroke....my thinking is way off now that I am hearing experienced riders giving me input. Appreciate it.
For single track here in the Northeast 2T is the way to go... But the 250FX is capable and you're going to learn a lot riding this bike. Balance along with clutch throttle control are the name of game no matter what engine you have under you.
Thanks for the reply, 100% agree with your comment.
You bought the correct bike especially being new. This is the exact bike i would recommend to someone getting into the sport. You did a good job on the choice. 2 strokes are no easier than that, i promise you!
thanks for the input appreciate it.
@@pete8149 Your welcome and check out dirtbike channel on youtube the guy Kyle test all kinds of trail bikes and your bike is the one he can put the fastest lap times on.
Great point… two strokes are no easier to ride.
I personally have both and I can tell for enduro, woods and single track riding my ktm 300 xcw 21 is my go to bike, it feels lighter, more maneuverable and a power delivery that is more useable. I love 4 stroke too but I feel like they perform better on the track or in the send.
Once I advance on some riding I hope to venture into a 2 stroke, but for now I am enjoying this bike.
I understand the frustration, but that's just riding man. Just take your time and be patient with yourself. I raced harescrambles on my 2003 YZ250 and I had a blast. I did a few seasons with that. However, I always wished I had a 250f. Now I finally have one and love it so much. Just have fun with your bike man. Don't worry so much about maps, focus on your riding and techniques. Use that clutch too! It's easy to get clutch plates for under 100$ and replace them
I am also in PA. South of Pittsburgh about 30 min
I am originally from Altoona area now over in Harrisburg area. Yeah I grew to love this bike after owning it 2 years now. Your right clutch control is a major factor when learning to ride.....especially singletrack. Wish I had found woods riding years ago ....so much fun. Thanks for your input I appreciate it. Have you ever been to Rock Run in Patton, PA? That is more the area I grew up in the old coal towns and strip mining back when I was a kid.
I'd recommend trying a recluse clutch. It's a game changer if your bike dies a lot in the slow parts.
Geek off roader: I’ve had two FXs all you need is a recluse, now get out there 😂
@@garysmith5394 I just bought the same bike and it was hard as hell to manage on tight single track . Constant flame outs and I'm coming from a WR. Ordered a Rekluse and that will fix all when I install next week.
I put a Recluse in my RMX450. Game changer.
Try raising the idle to reduce stalling.
Try a higher gear for lugging. The Yamaha 250 4-strokes are capable of pulling 3rd in many places. It’ll smooth out the power.
Spin your clickers out so you not deflecting off everything.
Great bike.
Thanks for the tips...appreciate it.
Bike choice doesn’t really matter honestly, being completely comfortable on whatever bike you choose is way more important than having a better bike. Put in more hours riding and try to ride faster, that’s the best thing you can do to ride better
my 250fx came with a rekluse. I wouldnt of put it on but now thats its on i wouldnt ride without it. its crazy if you already have good bike control
A 2 stroke is no better in the rocks? You guys have hit your heads too many times, or you're trying to ride a MX bike in the woods. Go ride a current 300XC or XC-W then come back and say that.
I have a 22 FX and I ride some serious rocky stuff. Stock form the bike is not setup for this. I have re-valved the suspension to make it more plush. I fitted a weighted flywheel as well as a traction disk which you fit to the clutch basket. Man does this bike lug now. It's got bottom end for days. I leave it on the standard MX map and never even use the mapping switch. It's just perfect. Doesn't stall unless you to lazy on the clutch sometimes but then it's your own doing. When I crack the throttle this bike is still very responsive and exciting to ride.
Since your running a traction disk on one side, is there a specific weight (oz.) of flywheel you need for the other side? Sorry if that question sounds dumb. Don't have no experience in dealing with either. Appreciate your reply and your experience with this bike. Thanks.
@@pete8149 it's around 200g. Basically the most you can fit to it. They have pretty small flywheels. I have had no need to change the stock sprockets either since doing this. Honestly a game changer.
Sounds like your trying to sell yourself on it. You know deep down you’d rather have a different bike so sell or trade it for a yz250x 2 stroke. you’ll be having way more fun on a 2 stroke. Don’t feel bound to your first decision I pretty much get a new bike every year cuz I get bored and want to try something else plus it gives me content for my channel.
I own a shop and get to ride pretty much everything. I personally own a 2019 KTM 250XC (because its the last year of carb bikes, with Kickstart, kickstand, and electric start) buy for reasons that matter not nuance differences in handling. I think you are right in your thinking that it's the rider not the bike. The rider that rides everyday and has built up his ability will walk away from both of us on a CRF125F. Just get out there enjoy the ride. Let the bike be the bike and enjoy the struggle. When you get better it will be more rewarding that you started on a "more difficult bike". Then switch to a 2 stroke and learn a new struggle. They all have ups and downs nothing is perfect or we would all have it.
Thanks for the advice. I wasn't going to post this video originally, but glad I did. To hear everyones opinion, tips and advice has been great. The struggle is real...but I am enjoying every minute of it.
@@pete8149 that's awesome shred on my friend see ya out there.
I've ridden off and on for sixty years. The FX is a wonderful bike for going fast. I, like you, have not found a setting for going slow without really working the clutch and throttle. I bought a Beta 300 and now the FX sits in the garage. Slow going, rocks, no problem. Just put it in third gear and enjoy your ride. Stay safe!
Glad to see your still out riding....I wish I would of started years ago when I was younger but I am just glad I found woods riding. Thanks for the reply....appreciate the input.
Just keep ridin a d practicing. It'll come together. Thats a nice bike
and can handle most everything you can throw at it. Like others mentioned maybe a sprocket change and/or revalve the forks to get a better feel... 😉
These are great bikes it will last a long time if maintained! And like you mentioned, most of your trail difficulties would be the same on any bike. To help with the stalling give this map a try on your power tuner map. It will be basically detuning the bike a bit but it helps it not stall and is way softer and easier to ride right off the bottom/idle, then ramps back up to "normal power".
Ignition:
0, 0, 0, 0
-1,-1,-1,0
-3,-3,-1,0
-5,-3,-1,0
Fuel:
0,0,0,0
0,0,0,0
1,1,0,0
3,1,0,0
This map should give a softer more rideable bottom end, be more stall resistant, easier starting, but still keep a ton of performance in the mid to high rpms.
Are the throttle % and rpm range all normal setting on that map? Thanks for the Map to try...appreciate it.
@Pete 814 I didn't get around to messing with those items.
Thank you for sharing... I have owned and ridden over 60 different bike so yes I agree with you that a 2S bike is going to be easier to ride tight gnarly single track especially when you are new. But once you progress your skills on a 2S you will do equally well on the 4S.
What I would suggest if you can is get an older 2S for cheap and ride it on the same trails and master your skills.
When it comes to 2S not all bikes are the same. If you get a motocross 2S you will face exactly the same issues with a light flyhweel and the bike will want to be on the pipe all the time and will end up hurting you. I would recommend a 2S woods bike like a KDX200 or Yamaha wr250 or RMX250 or an older KTM 200/250/300 EXC. Now this may sound dumb but an even better choice would be a trail based 4s like TTR230 or CRF250F to learn on as those machines are designed with low compression ratios and immense bottom end (but you give up top end power which you dont need anyway if you are a new rider)... A slow bike will give you the skills you need and then you would be very fast and very comfortable on a fast bike on the same trails... My first bike was an RMZ450 and I almost hated dirtbikes immediately. I switched to an old KTM 250EXC and it was like magic... Never looked back.
Thanks for the reply and the info, will look into your suggestions. Thanks.
It is hard to switch over from the street, I started off on a 2015 yz250f for trail riding. Make sure you idle is fast enough, and unlike the street you have to slip the clutch all the time in the tight stuff and learn throttle control, you got a good bike to learn on, just give it time, 2t are hard to ride also. Now I have a yz450fx and that thing is a monster you have to tame with a cluch. If you are in PA, go to rush offroad in eastern KY, fast flow trails so you can get used to it. Also think twice before you go recluse, yes it makes it easier to ride tight stuff but also keeps you from learning the cluch, my yz250f had one, I will not put one in my new bike, takes the snap out when you pop the cluch and sometimes it will disengage and you will lose engine breaking at idle. Also you lose using the transmission as a parking brake when you are not riding. Hang in there.
Appreciate the info. I haven't installed a Rekluse and haven't did a flywheel weight either. I appreciate everyone's input...but I figure if I am going to learn to ride offroad might as well keep everything how I bought it. Also haven't done the throttle tamer either.....I thought about them all but came to conclusion that like you said .."learn throttle control and learn clutch control" .... I have messed with some more detuned maps and stuff. Appreciate the input.
Will look up the offroad park you suggested , next summer want to try going and experiencing other places.
Recluse clutch in my 21fx. I'm 56 and lug a gear hi mostly . Something to think about!
Where did you order it from? Got alot of suggestions on it.
@@pete8149 rocky mountain atv
@@willeypoboy5607 Thanks..appreciate it.
You could go up on the rear sprocket and get some more grunt. I own one but I am a A level rider. It's a great motorcycle. I also ride MX and the bike is great on the track. I went from the stock 50 rear to a 48 and rip through the woods. Find some friends and have fun. Just a reminder for you as an entry level rider go up a tooth on the rear sprocket should help you with the slow sections.
I've got a 2019 yz250f you just need more clutch control it's a learning curve
I had a similar experience with a 350. Switched from two stroke to see what it was about, but 2T is really the way to go for northeast woods.
Just keep riding man... Everything else will definitely follow. I'm on a ktm 450 sxf in the bush. It's wild. 😅😅😅
You will be fine. I bought a "race" four stroke as well and ride in relatively tight single track. My goal was to compete so I have the bike I want. It takes quality seat time and more seat time. Not garbage time on the bike. You can't afford it riding only weekends.
Word of caution, let someone know where you're riding. Notify them when you start and when you finish. A garmin Inreach is not a bad idea.
I too ride alone. On a training ride I crashed and broke my neck. I was able to ride out of the woods, load my bike and drive to the e.r.
I was fortunate, it didn't have to turn out that way.
Enjoy that fx!
Dang broke your neck.....how long was that recovery? The wife knows when I go and I tell her how many hours I will be out. Appreciate all the advice thanks.
@@pete8149 LOL Still off the bike. Broke my neck July 17th (C2 and C5). Bones have healed but they are misaligned.
I start physical therapy Tuesday for hopeful results.
One more piece of advice if I may. I was not wearing a neck brace. My injury is the exact injury neck braces are designed to prevent. I was not against wearing one like many are but I had spent so much on gear I chose not to purchase "optional" gear. It was almost a fatal mistake.
I try to share my story when applicable without preaching because I'm not.
I do feel safe saying the only people against neck braces have never broken their neck.
Cheers
I have the 23’ 250 FX. They just added a map called “Torquey”. That would probably suit your needs well in Rocky conditions
I also got a Torquey map that came in maps plus I downloaded a second Torquey map....like them both and do run it back and forth with Woods #2 map. Thanks for the reply, appreciate the input.
Sweet!! I'm looking to buy one just not sure if I'm going for 250fx or 450fx. I ride open desert/desert trails and hill climb. I weigh 188lbs. Would that 250fx carry me around no issue in softer sand??
@@EPT915G I never road sand/desert conditions. I ride singletrack here on east coast. So I wouldn't have any knowledge on riding in that terrain. I weigh 195 lbs....and bike has no problems with my weight......but I am not riding the conditions/terrain and speeds that you would be. There is utube channel... "Dirtbike Sam"....I think it is....I think he does the desert stuff on a yz250fx might want check it out. He would have knowledge on those conditions. Thanks for the reply and best of luck on the new bike.
@pete8149 OK I'll check it out. Thanks for the info. Happy riding!
Send it to factory connection they are right there in PA. You will be impressed for sure.
I ride FRO as well. 2T vs. 4T in the rocky single track really won’t make a difference, as others have mentioned. Dial in the suspension and you’ll be able to chug along with little to no stalling. I had a ‘20 FX and didn’t like the handling much until I sent the suspension to Factory Connection and got it setup for my weight and skill level. Then it was awesome in the rocks and roots! Rarely stalled it because then I could blast the rough sections. Plus you just can’t beat a 4T on rough/slippery uphills. I’m now riding a Husqvarna TE150i but there are times I miss that 250FX!
Thanks for your input, appreciate it.
G2 throttle cam and Rekluse clutch makes this thing perfect for old guys like us
After 10yrs of road racing I bought a 21' YZ250FX. Suspension was perfect for MX, but way too stiff for trails. I revalved and that helped a ton. I then resprung the front and that helped more. Resprung again this week so hopefully that'll allow me to use most of my travel. Out back the stock spring and my revalve is really good. I'm a c class 165lb rider and the stock suspension is setup for a much faster larger person.
Get your suspension done. As for the rest... well I feel the bike is perfect. I want the throttle to be aggressive and responsive.
I got hooked up on suspension guy my Yamaha shop referred him. I got to drop it off getting it done over winter, only 45 minutes from where I live. So I am going take the whole bike, he said he will get me setup cause I am clueless with suspension setup. Thanks for the reply...appreciate your input.
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Four years ago I got back into riding after nearly a 25 year layoff (work, kids, travel sports, etc.). I purchased a new 2019 YZ250FX and ride the same type of trails at AOAA, Mountain Ridge and other Pennsylvania areas. I have my bike setup with a G2 Throttle Tamer, different link and the Torque Map and my bike is pretty good in the rocks and tight trails. Different tires will also help since the stock tires are not a soft compound. My bike can lug and is way more difficult to stall over a stock bike. To get better at riding tighter trails I added the G2 Throttle Tamer and Torque Map and rode in slow figure 8s in my yard for weeks. Learning throttle and clutch control while getting use to your bike will change your mind about the YZ250FX. For hard enduro a 2 stroke may be better but for the trails around us the YZ250FX is pretty versatile and can handle most any terrain. Join the ThumperTalk Forum and go to the YZ250FX page. I started a Map thread that is posted at the top section of the YZ250FX Forum. Other riders have added their Maps for different setups and conditions. Its also a wealth of information for all things YZ250FX. Don’t get rid of the bike just yet…….
What are you talking about "different link".... you mean lower the suspension linkage? You run the torque map that came with the bike, I have that one plus I downloaded another one off the FX mapping page on FB. Also, joined Thumper talk...appreciate the suggestion.
@@pete8149 The 2019 and earlier models of the FX have a bit of a stink bug effect being a bit higher in the back than the front. I changed out the suspension link lowering the back about 20mm and then played with fork height in the clamps. I never rode my bike on MX tracks so I had no issues with the suspension. It lowered the seat height about an inch and turns better than the stock setup. The YZ250FX has been a great bike but now I’m looking to sell it and buy a new bike. I only have 43 hours on my bike and I babied it so it is in great shape. My son has grown out of his bike so we are looking at possibly getting 2 Beta 200rr. I want to get back into a 2 stroke and the 2023 200rr model looks to be a good bike for my riding and a great step up bike for my son.
Get yourself a recluse.
The 300 2 stroke is probably the greatest bike to own if you mostly ride woods whether fast and flowy or tight. They are also very good for the occasional MX open practice days. I have a 2020 300TX Husky and I ride that twice as much as my 450 4 stroke mx bike.
Thanks for the reply. Appreciate your input.
I had a four stroke 350 Husky and loved it but struggled in the rocks, like you I live in a hilly rocky area. I ended up buying a 300 two stroke. Just be careful trying to ride at a level where the four stroke will work in the woods. BTW: Sold my Harelys for dirt bikes too.
Your name...youns enduro..... are you from western pa originally? I originally am and we always said "what are youns doing" and when I dated a girl from Philly she always said "what are youz doing"....was a west and east PA thing ...I still say "Youns" today as a adult it has stuck with me.....
So did the 2 stroke help you ride better in the rocky terrain?
@@pete8149 no Brother, I’m from Knoxville TN I ride at a place called Windrock ORV park. Paul Wolf
Re valve the suspension you can send it to fastlap … the suspension is way to stiff for that I did mine it is a game changer …. A recluse should help with th luging
Get a flywheel weight that will make a difference
Yea I disagree … well I mean a 2 stroke won’t help . I live in PA and unless you’re a A rider doing really hard stuff , I’d personally rather have the 4 stroke. In example I bought a full MX bike not even a X or FX or anything and I like it just fine.
Never mind I let the video finish and agree with the end of your vid haha
I started off on a 250FX and I just recently bought a Sherco 250 SE 2 stroke. The difference is night and day on single track. The FX is fun in the fast flowy stuff like you said... but so is the Sherco and it feels WAY easier to ride the tight stuff. I wish I would have started off on the Sherco. Also it has a map switch and the tame map is very manageable for a new rider.
Still like the bike it will be a year at the end of February. I eventually want to move on to a 2 stroke because there is some slower stuff I would like to try to get into....and this bike not a good fit for that....thanks for the reply and input. Enjoy the new bike!
Best bike ive ever had is my 2015 yzf250f i can keep up with everyone else on there 250 2 strokes and 450s and ive never blew a yamaha up, ive blown a ktm 125 and a kxf250 withen a week of owning
Once you are comfortable, I’d recommend getting into 2T. 250-300 carbureted 2T is the way to go. Find a good deal on an older one in good condition, then spend some on the savings on a SMARTCARB and you’re set for life with no headaches. Also 2T super easy to work on yourself.
That is the direction I am heading. Love the bike now, but I do believe 2T will benefit me more and I agree on looking for a deal and I have rebuilt many sportbike/bobber carbs so familiar territory there. Thanks for your input...appreciate it.
I’m not sure Yamaha uses for flywheel weigh, maybe increasing the weight? l had a KTM 250 exc, the thing was like a electric motor, amazing to ride.
Put a Rekluse CX clutch on it. Best woods mod for us weekend warriors.
I run a 21 FX, I run with the 300’s all day long. It’s a very capable bike.
For stalling don’t be afraid to get into the maps.
For tight slow sections I run the bigger flywheel and have made a map that works for my riding style. It doesn’t stall, it’ll tractor along.
For both fuel & ign on the maps:
10% 20% 40% 80%
2500rpm
5500rpm
8500rpm
10500rpm
Fuel (left to right, top to bottom):
-1, -2, -1, 0,-1, -2, -2, -2, -1, -1, -1, +1, -1, -1, 0, +1
Ign: +3, +3, +3, +3, +2, +2, +2, +3, +2, +2, +2, +2, +1, +2, +2, +2
Granted this works for me in my area (I’ve done a bunch of tweaking to this map) but I’ve found this map pretty resistance to stalling. The flywheel really helps too.
Hey thanks alot...I am going to type it in and give it a try. I can't find flywheel for the 2022 yet. You remember where you got yours from? Appreciate the input and reply.
I like your honesty. Husqvarna FE 350 might be a better choice.
The WR250 would have been a better choice for rocks climbing rough trails. Softer sprung with wide ratio transmission. As your skills progress on the fx you should be able to make it work for what ever .
The YZ250FX has the same 6-speed wide ratio gearbox as the WR.
The yz250fx is an xc racer... There is Not a map that can change that. You would love a ttr230
KTM XCW 300 the bike you want 2-stroke and you can lug it but you have a great bike too
Stroke is what gives you low rpm torque. The stroke on that bike is 56.3 mm a 2t ktm 300 is 72mm.
Hey buddy you should pick up a sherco Trials bike it would help your riding skills a ton and you will learn clutch control better on a trials bike
2 strokes are dogs in low rpm situations. The 4 stroke makes a great trail bike.
I have a 20 250fx. Put an 8 cell antigravity battery, turned the idle up 500 rpm, and put a gytr flywheel on it. Bike rarely ever stalls after the flywheel, and idle adjustment. I run the Travis Pastrana tune most of the time.
Where you get the flywheel? When I search everywhere is sold out of them. I do have idle bumped up now and been running Woods 2 map but still has little more engine break than I want. Are you using the TP map for singletrack? Thanks for the reply and info.
Hey Lonely Guy, you might like a trials bike. Not as a replacement but as an addition. You would learn more faster about how to ride your terrain.
Needs a lower first gear either clutch or go it's a race bike over rev and control clutch In tight corners
2 strokes like the GG 300ec are perfect for that style of riding, saying that the 2 stroke takes a lot of rider skill, they are unforgiving and have gobs of power. I ride a 2 stroke and they will try and kill you. 4 strokes are like Cadillacs in comparison. You can make any Bike easier to ride for your style, flywheel weights, 1 tooth smaller front sprocket or a Rekluse Clutch, which is the most expensive upgrade but they are awesome.
I have looked for flywheel weight and 1 tooth smaller front sprocket but so far everyone is out of stock. So if anyone knows where I can find....would appreciate the info. Thanks for the information appreciate it.
@@pete8149 Have you tried Rocky Mountain ATV? they seem to have lots of stock and great pricing, I like a lot of their TUSK stuff.
@@pete8149 Also G2 Throttle cams are great, you can customize the throttle with that system, I use the 200 Cam on my 2 stroke, it has 4 stroke roll on power. They are supposed to be rolling out the Lock On grip system to the G2 line this year.
Be sure a check out your local MX tracks … lots of fun when not crowded and it make you a better rider.
Install a rekluse
I’m over in NJ. In a few years I want to move into PA. Some of my family is over there already. I got a CRF450RL but would like to get a dirt bike once I’m over there. In NJ there’s no places to ride so I had to get a dual sport. How is it riding in PA without a plate? Thank you.
Only Experience I got is riding Famous Reading Outdoors. I am from western PA originally and I know a couple places out there, but they are like here...pay $$ to ride. I love Reading Outdoors as far as a place to ride. Only have road couple of there properties, but each one has a little something different to offer over the next. Lots singletrack, rocks, technical stuff, hard enduro type stuff and some lots are more known for the hill climbs. So a variety with a membership here.
@@pete8149 that sounds pretty nice. Rather pay to ride than ride and run. I don’t want to have to be looking over my shoulder while trying to relax and enjoy my time. Over in NJ we have our state forests with a lot of single track and sand pits. The sand can be challenging. I’m starting to get better at handling it but I have to make my bike more friendly to off roading as I’m still running the stock tires and have been recommended to switch out the pipe and ECU.
Sell it and buy a trials bike--you will love! I also have a new ktm300xc but ride the trials all the time (trust me).
Install an auto clutch or lower gear ratio 1 tooth.
idk which part of Pa you're in but if it's the western side Eric at pro-action is a great suspension tuner and can get it setup really well for you.
I am eastern PA, but will look him up. My bike shop gave me a place so I called them. Thanks for the reply, appreciate it.
@@pete8149 also I didn't really read through the comments so idk if anyone mentioned it or not but try turning your idle up a bit it should help with stalling. I was stalling a lot on my new 4 stroke when I got it till someone told me to do it it makes a world of difference.
2 stroke would be more working the clutch which seems like that would be to much for you. And for your maps just stick with the pre sets man 🤷♂️
Been on the bike for 2 1/2 years now, just took some learning to ride it, first dirtbike... taught myself, don't have no riding partners or anyone to show me anything. Love the bike now. Just bought a 2 stroke in the spring so now learning to ride it and yes it is alot of clutch use on both bikes riding in the woods. Thanks for the input. Appreciate it.
Where is this at? I live in PA and what your describing is exactly what I'm looking for, I have plenty of trails but I get sick of sneaking around on private property
This is Famous Reading Outdoors. They have properties in a few different locations that you can ride. It requires a membership but it is year round access. They have website you can look at. I am not sure of what part of state you live but this is in Pottsville, PA area.
I'm in the same boat. Owned street motorcycles. Now own a dual-sport motorcycle. I have some extensive pedal mountain bike riding experience under my belt. That took a good 6mo to feel good and 2 years months of riding trails for an hour or so almost every day after work, on weekends 4 hours or more to master. Plus had to build up my leg strength for the trails. There's no sitting on my ass on the trails mountain bike riding. I am sure the same goes for motorcycle/dirtbike trail riding. No, I can't throw around my dual-sport motorized bike as I do on my mountain bike on the trails. At least not yet. My suggestion is to watch some UA-cam training videos pertaining to dirtbike riding, do the exercises with the bike and train the body shown in the videos. Keep searching for advanced videos after your skills increase. Maybe search your local area for a private enduro track where they offer coaching. These days I go out almost every day with my dual-sport, and do the exercises, ride a little, and repeat the exercise. Nothing crazy. I can tell that I'm getting better at handling the dual-sport on the single tracks, and road. It'll take a while longer before I'm ripping it up on the trails. Until then it is what it is, and it's a slow go. I'd rather keep my bones intact. You know it don't come easy.
Appreciate the advice. I think some of my problem is mental confidence when I do get to hard obstacles/rock gardens. I have been working on standing more and been working in my yard just on a balance drill technique...got small yard so can't do no riding practice. (Rich Larsen has some good training stuff...but still a little advanced for me to try, I like his clutch control and balance tutorials.) Thanks for the input....there is a lot of useful suggestions to take from it. Thanks.
I bought one and have had the same experience. It's a terrible bike for slow. Kyle from dirtbike channel is full of crap.
I used to like his content, but tries to hard to sale raffle bikes more than content I like to watch.
Why don’t you show us a video of what you are riding??? Did you change the front sprocket and gear it down? If your not doing hard enduro type of terrain that bike should be fine. Go to a 12 tooth sprocket and keep practicing. I ride my 250f in the woods but it’s not a dedicated woods bike, I do feel what your saying with feathering the clutch but it can be learned. I would like to see a clip of the terrain you ride.
No hard enduro...just long rock gardens and everyday rocky trails. Will see if I can find some specific examples and post a link to you. Thanks for the information...appreciate it.
If you think it's tough on a 4t don't try a 2t
Throw a flywheel weight on it and call it a day. I have a built up crf250x that never dies on me in single track.
I looked up a flywheel weight for the 2022, can't find one any place you recommend buying one?
Try keefers fee flow map.
Will give it a try leaving now to go riding will upload it when I get there. Thanks.
You’ll have to clutch just as much if not more on a 2 stroke.
Suspension setup and rekluse
Suspension getting done over winter here, rekluse is something I am looking into next. Thanks for the input and reply.
I have the same 22 yz250fx. It's a race bike, needs suspension revalved, heavy flywheel, throttle cam and hydraulic clutch for what we are using them for. I uploaded 2 videos on this bike explaining the mods for rocky singletrack.
Thanks for the reply, I will go watch the videos...thanks.
I agree with the folks how are saying all bikes are going to require the same skills to ride in technical terrain. You can stall the gruntiest 2 stroke. You can slip the stalliest four stroke through the rocks. The more technical the terrain the more balance/brake/clutch/throttle, often under simultaneous exercise, you will need to exhibit to succeed no matter what bike you are on. I have been racing a KTM300XC for 4 years now in every discipline but hard-enduro. I think it really depends on what kind of riding you are doing. If you are not racing there isn't any reason to have enormous explosive power. Some of the Beta 300s like the Xtrainer have wonderful torque and mild manners. I have a 2006 CRF250X that refuses to stall at low RPMs even more so than my 300XC (but the crf250x has a few mods). A smooth clutch means more to me than the perfect engine. We racers do A LOT of clutch slipping, so if your finger(s) are fatigued on the clutch, that is more an indication that you are doing it right. We will carry 3rd gear sometimes down to almost stopping and slip the clutch instead of downshifting. We will put pressure on the clutch to increase the engine rpm even at relatively fast speeds (nowhere near stalling). We dump the clutch into a revved engine to lift the front end over rocks, roots, small downed trees, mud holes, ditches, etc. LOTS of clutch use.
Go to some of the many good UA-cam trainers and study. Then go practice. You will improve. Your confidence will go up and you will have more fun. You will crash. That is part of it. Ride with the Knights, MotoAcademy, Chris Birch "Say No to Slow", and Tyler Livesy are some of the best teachers on the internet.
Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed reply I really appreciate it. Alot of good info in this response. I always downshift thinking I will bog the bike down to much but am going to try to learn to use the clutch more. I am not a racer...never will have the skill or speed to do so....got into riding later in life here but just would like to be able to ride a steady decent pace while being able to hit obstacles (logs/rocks) on the fly. Lot to learn yet and am enjoying the slow process of learning. Thanks again for the info.
I entered my first dirtbike race just 5 years ago when I was 48. I currently race in the 50B class. It's been a long intense awesome journey. I love to trail ride and enter dual-sport events as well but knowbody wanted to ride as much or as fast as I did so racing was the answer for me.
@@pete8149
Yeah that's a Damn Good Bike - Its Kinda Heavy in tight stuff - Maybe spend a few hundred to Revalve the Fork and Shock to ENDURO specs and Just Ride........Worth a Try - The Compression Valving Is the KEY to that bike - Go Way Softer - ALSO ADD 2 teeth to the rear sprocket makes the bike feel Peppy everywhere - First gear is like a granny gear and you'll find yourself always near 3rd gear where the power is - With a 6 speed Tranny you won't miss Top End Speed - Also Remap the fuel might help - in Idle or Mid area -
You add fuel but reduce timing a Tad to get torque - as I remember.....ask Yamaha or Ask some dude who knows.
If all that doesn't help look into new KTM 250XCF with Air Fork.......I hear lots of good things...They are around 16 lbs lighter as I remember ? GAS GAS "Red KTM cost a little less but its the Same Bike - less Bling CHEERS
Thanks for the information. I need to find where I can get my suspension done at here in PA. Will also look into the sprocket too. I need to talk to couple of the racers that ride the properties I ride and see if they have any suggestions on where to get suspension work done at. Thank You.
Works enduro rider in NJ for Suspension and get a rekluse clutch
Will look them up...thanks.
Change the sprockets and put a fly wheel weight in it!! That will help! No a 2 stroke is even harder!! I know! I am getting a four stroke!! I have a yz125x!! A 4 stroke lugs better then a 2 stroke!! I am 62 and can rip the 2 stroke but I want the best of both worlds the fx and 125x are great on track and single track!!
I am going to change front sprocket...looked at fly wheel weights just have not found any in stock for my bike. Thanks for the reply, appreciate your input.
@@pete8149 no problem that will really help!! Stay riding!
Sick thumnail🫡
I have the same bike mine is 2021, and let me tell you that is a fantastic bike, the first few rides that I did on it I stall it a lot but now I'm feathering the clutch and rarely stall it, riding on rocks is very difficult, you just need to ride as much as you can and that's the key.
Thanks for the reply, I am working on my clutch control when riding and also, every time I ride at the end or beginning, I will do some drills on engagement point on boulders/logs. Appreciate the input.
Go to a 12 tooth front sprocket and up w few teeth in the rear it will help tremendously.
I will probably do the front sprocket and give that a try. Thanks for your input.
One word: Rekluse.
Did you have the suspension set up for you? Usually stock these suspensions are set up a little stiffer than what I’d want to see for a harescramble bike. It’ll feel more luggy if you set it up for a woods bike that spends its time in 1st-3rd gear.
Today after work I called my Yamaha Dealer down the road. They gave me a place that people use around here. Contacted him and waiting for reply. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
@@pete8149 No Problem! It’ll be good!
we can get used to it
I live in Pa also!!
Old vid but also change sprockets maybe 12 front 51 rear work the tuning more you can help it there but your right it would take a whole garage to hold all the bikes u need lol but the one you have is fine the auto cluch really do work great ,but I prefer a manual,I also have installed a recluse all steel cluch basket which helps w crank weight mine is a 2018 450 so I also have a detuned map that kinda helps a little but not much but it helps ,also there are throttle tamer out there that calms down the jumpy throttle. So it can be good but maybe a trials bike or ktm much lighter.too
Beta Xtrainer!
Could have made this video from your couch bro
👍
Awesome bike! Stay on it. I had the 250x and switched to the 4 and I will never go back.
What didn't you like about the 250x? Please elaborate.
Just ride it
Put a recluse clutch on it that will solve your problem
Thanks for the input. I have been looking into that, gotten few suggestions to do it and probably heading in that direction. Thanks for the reply.
I have 2015 250FX was my first dirt bike bought in my late 30s.
The echo others the suspension is going to make a huge difference. The service manually should show the default rebound and compression values (clicks). I would just try going all out (clicks) and make the bike super soft front and rear. This is super easy to do (even trailside) and undo and you don't need to spend any money. Put a zip-tie on your front fork, you may find you are getting nowhere close to utilizing the full travel. I did this to my bike after some more experiences riders suggested it while out riding. My bike holds my line so much better, instead of getting bounced off the rocks its absorbing the hits and keeping me on my intended path. There are times it too soft but its usually some atv trail at a much higher speed, never in the single track i ride.
As for a map, some people have suggested some maps that may be a better fit. I played with maps a little bit and the map that was the most forgiving to ham fisted throttle was the rain map. If you are getting bucked around and accidentally twisting the throttle and lurching forward that map may be more forgiving.
Not familiar with that map.... I contacted a suspension guy yesterday, waiting on return call, my local Yamaha shop suggested them so planning on getting it done soon as they can schedule it. Will do the zip tie method and see how much suspension I am actually using...Thanks for the tip and your reply, appreciate it.
Send it to factory connection. I love mine with it done!
I'm in PA also. Where are you riding?
Famous Reading Outdoors is where I ride.
Heavier flywheel recluse clutch
I feel you I got a used 2014 yz250f 4 yrs ago & I really screwed up🤦♂️! The bike is nice it runs like no tomorrow, but it's literally the worst bike for East Coast woods or any woods riding! Plus I waited tell I was 43 with a job I can't be laid up with a broken arm or leg as it is to try & start riding😅🥳🙏! I wish I got a 2 stroke also🤦♂️! Maybe a KTM 300XC-W!!!!
Thanks for the review! Really appreciate your point of view. I'm in northeastern Canada, almost the same conditions as you ride in, and I bought a 2013 YZ125 about 3 years ago. Although it was lots of fun, it was a lot of work in single track situations. I sold it this year and got a 2021 YZ125X, which is incredibly better for woods riding, but still requires a lot of clutch feathering. If you go 2-stroke, I'd try the YZ250X.
Thanks for your input appreciate it. I have liked the bike the more I ride it...but I am looking on going to a 2 stroke later this fall. Been on this bike a year now and it has grown on me and now I want to move to a 2 stroke. The rough/rocky terrain has done me a lot of good learning woods riding....so after all said and done the bike is great....it was the lack of experience and skill that was/still is the problem. Thanks for the reply. Don't you like the yz125x or just wish you bought the 250?
@@pete8149 - I did a lot of researching before getting the 125X model, but I knew I wouldn't go for a higher displacement - I ride tight trails, so too much power can be a bit hard to manage when you have to give it just the right amount of throttle. I am also very light for a 50-year old. I'm 5'9", but only 145 lbs, so a 125 has more than enough power to haul me plenty fast 😁
I have a 2019 YZ250X and just put it up for sale. It is an absolute beast but riding in tight trails and rocky hill climbs it's hard to manage. It would be great out west where you can run at speed. No electric start, hard suspension and having to tinker with jets are also some downfalls to riding this bike slowly. The closest and best riding by me is Barnwell Mountain in Gilmer TX. It's an old iron ore mine and there aren't many places where this bike really shines there. Yes you can add flywheel weights, Lectron carburetors, throttle tamers and even e start but that cancels any benefit to getting one in the first place. The best bike for this type of riding is the KTM XC-W 300. 2 stroke with fuel and oil injection. PDS suspension. low weight and good dealer/parts support. It will lug all day and not flame out. It gives up some top end power but is smooth in the really rough stuff. They aren't cheap but you only live once. I have been selling my other toys and I am looking for a gently used one to replace my YZ.
@Mike-uh2gw Thanks for your reply and the good info. Appreciate it.
What about the WR model? Sherco, TM, SWM and AJP sell a 300cc 4 stroke made just for that type of terrain.
My lack of knowledge from the beginning was where I went wrong from day one, as explained in video. I Don't know anyone with dirt bikes and I ride solo. I don't regret this purchase, love the bike and learning every ride its just a steep learning curve, wish I would have found woods riding when I was younger. Thanks for your reply.
@@pete8149 THe USa version of the WR250F does not come with a programmable ECU or the CCU communication module which is "WIFI" basically so it can't connect to the powertuner app.. The competition Ecu that makes the WR250F run as it was designed is expensive and sometimes hard to get due to the politically dummies running the world. The FX is one of the best bikes made, ultra reliable, solid bike, the suspension is a little stiff for the rocky slow sing track, but it's very versatile bike and HIGHLY undrated. the ktm300 is awesome, but you can go just as fast on the 250FX. I like both bikes, and have owned multiple 300s and 15, 17, 18, 19 and 20 FX's.
@@goneridingparts Appreciate the reply and your experience/knowledge. Checked out your channel "YZ250FX Crash", I've had a lot of crashes...but not that face first straight shot to the ground like that.... You got some editing skillz also.
@@pete8149 Thank you for the nice comments, my editing skills have a LONG long way to go.. lol. really appreciate that though.. I would enjoy making some videos just because I like to ride, but I work the other 99% of the time...
best bike ever, no need to watch the rest of the video
I wouldn’t say best bike ever. Too many electronics to make it easy to DIY fix. Anytime something electronic goes bad, you need a mechanic with a computer, blah blah
Is this a good beginner bike
This was my first dirtbike.....so I might not be a good person to answer. But I can tell my experience for the last 2 years on it. The throttle is touchy....(alot of people put on a throttle tamer but I never did) just learned the bike stock as it was. Only thing I did was download a detuned map for learning woods riding but now I can ride woods in MX Map..and some other aggressive maps. It is a awesome bike after I learned to ride it in East Coast Rocky trails.
I came off sportbikes so I did have motorcycle experience...just not dirtbike experience. I would say with the ability to detune the bike with your phone on the Yamaha App does lead to me to say it could be a good starter bike and as you progress you can change maps easily in seconds and as your skills get better download more power/aggressive maps through the app. Suspension is a little stiff in the beginning but I am 200 lbs and after it got broke in I softened it up and have no issues with it. Also if your riding woods best upgrade you can do right away is put tires on it for the terrain your riding.
Any other questions drop a message will do my best to answer......This is a dirtbike "noobie" perspective. Thanks for the reply...hope I helped a little....
I’m getting a 24 250fx on Tuesday and I’m kinda nervous because I’ve heard they have problems starting and rod bearing problems have you had any problems
I have the 2022 and you speaking of the rod bearing is the first I have heard of this. The detuned maps for me tend to be the harder starts....when I say hard starting I mean it turns over two or three times before it starts....it is not a continuous cranking without start but it is a few seconds of cranking. There are videos of guys who race that have found ways to help them start quicker if it becomes a problem. I am a novice rider at best, so them one or two extra crank overs don't affect me...but they are not a everyday thing for me. My bike 98% of time is an instanst crank start. Sorry I can't give you a better answer for that question, just my own experience. I love this bike now, in the early days being a new rider I questioned my purchase, but I have no regrets now....best of luck and congrats on the new bike. If you have any other questions drop a reply and if I can answer it, I will.
@@pete8149 awsome thank you for replying yea I’m currently gonna be coming off owning a 23 kx250x which is more of a powerful 250, I raced that and then have a ktm125 so I do plan on racing the yz I just wanted to ask because I’ve heard some people the bike just won’t start at all so hearing that is definitely a relief !
Did you pick up your bike today? Let me know what you think of it after you get chance to ride it.
@@pete8149 yea man i actually just got off it 10 minutes ago😂, absolutely love it super easy bike to ride fast in the trails I like it much better than my kx, I will say occasionally it had trouble starting in gear but very rarely, I will probably just get a better battery for it but overall I love it !
@urbancow8348 you might already know this but another thing that helps is turn the Idle up "while in gear"....Also if the "hard start in gear "..happens again, try giving your clutch knob a spin I feel when the bike is new that the clutch is a little tight till get worn a little...cause when you hit your button when it was hard starting did it lurch a little like the clutch was dragging?....just what I experienced when mine was new but if you keep clutch adjusted to me that is where the symptoms seem to come from. I am no mechanic....this was my first dirtbike but just things I observed in the beginning when it was new.....it will get better the more you ride it. Just few things that helped in the beginning....and yes I changed out the battery in the first few months ...these few things helped me in the early days. Glad you got your bike and best of luck with your racing.
Just get lower gears. Make that thing into a tractor
Been 2 1/2 years now since video finally learned how to somewhat ride it....lol..
@pete8149 im teaching my cousin how to ride so i know the process is long and demanding. Glad youre enjoying it. Great machine.
I live close to wheeling wv and the biggest thing with the singke track is being able to ride a trail and maintain it and its a hell of a lot of work alone or even with just a few guys ive been working on one for over a year and honestly its been built out of luck for the terrian it just worked out
I’m in wheeling wv it’s a small world where do you ride? Have you ever gone out by bonnies bar?
@@robertbaker9329 no actually lol everyone keeps telling me too and my aunt lives right near it. I ride thru smelters and up the hill to Rodriguez out roberts ridge
@@broughttoideas I’ve never been out there I wish I knew exactly where those trails were I’m always searching for new ones lol we should go ride sometime back in October I bought a 2023 yz250x
@@robertbaker9329 yeah I can show you it’s a tougher trail but turns into a sweet single track across the hill
@@broughttoideas heck yeah I’m down but I’m a fair weather rider lol come spring I’ll be your guy lol seriously though I will go rip with you for sure man
The 2022 YZ250FX is the bike I wanted to buy when I finally parted ways with my 2003 KTM 525 EXC but they were unobtainable at that time so I ended up getting a 2022 Husqvarna TE250i and to tell you the truth I’m having mixed feelings after being on a four stroke for 20 years.
I have owned quite a few 2 stroke MX and enduro bikes over the years as well as 4 stroke enduro and dual sport bikes.
Each engine type has its pluses and minuses, quirks and things you must deal with. Right now I am still fiddling around with getting my Husqvarna to not foul plugs or run rich which makes it prone to loading up and fouling the plug. I think I have it sorted out now with the correct spark arrestor, spark plug and an ECU reflash from Slavens Racing.
My 4 stroke bikes never fouled plugs and run cleaner than the 2 strokes do. When you can get a 2 stroke running right they are awesome for all real dirt bike situations and almost all of the hardest and gnarliest rides I’ve been on were on 2 strokes. They are lighter, more flickable, instant power, great luggability and are just a blast to ride.
But if I could do it all over and get any bike I want I would probably get a new KTM 350 EXC 4 stroke. For my age (66) and for the kind of riding I want and am able to do these days. It would be a better all around bike for me these days but my new Husqvarna is fast, light, very powerful and makes me feel like a young guy not afraid to tackle any trail.
Dirt bike riding is about have fun and exhilarating thrills. You sound like you’re a little burned out on your YZ so sell it while it’s newer or keep it if you can afford it but buy yourself a proper 2 stroke trail bike like a 2024 KTM 250 EXC TBI and start grinning from ear to ear when you attack the trails in your area on your new bike.
Best of luck to you and let us know what you decide to do.
Thanks for your advice and input. That is what I worry about getting a 2 stroke is getting it dialed in.....not real knowledgeable on them. Jetted many a 4 strokes over the years. I live this bike now because it is only dirt bike I have known. I have many a street bikes since I was 18. I do want to make a switch to a 2 stroke and keep this bike. I want to buy a used one that is couple years old.(not sure if that is a good thing or not). But would like to keep this bike and with that is why I would like to find a used one. Thanks for your reply it is good to hear from people who have the experience on both 2strokes and 4 strokes. Hopefully at the end of the riding season I can find a deal on a used 2 stroke.
Put a flywheel weight on it. It will make a huge difference.
Will look into this also...appreciate the input. Thank you.
No don’t do that. It’ll make it feel dumbed down. I actually went through that and put the stock one back on. I went with a throttle tamer and it made a decent difference.
Pete your bike is fine...it's the suspension guaranteed it needs revalved it will completely change the bike like night and day..I commented the other day on another video I am very close to you..I live in Manheim if you look me up on Facebook we can talk and do some riding just don't want to give info out on here... evo suspension company is 5 min from my house they can do your suspension for around 900.00
Will contact you on Facebook. Thanks for the info on suspension.
Did your bike come with the tuner app option? If so screw around with different maps. I'm currently building a good map option for my 2023 wr250f and these bikes are very similar. I cranked the low fuel up to 5 bottom left corner and the next set to 4 for the surrounding. Basically the bottom 4 squares. And then retard the ignition down to -4 and -3 for the surrounding 3 squares, that and brought the idle up to 2000 and it almost fixed the slow speed stalling option completely. Still working on the rest of the map but it made a noticeable difference.
Yes it has the tuner app. I currently run the Woods 2 map (for singletrack) and the Keefer Aggressive on Map1. Have experimented with alot of them but usually end up back to these two. I also found the 2000 rpm range for idle makes a big difference. Thanks for the input will look into your suggested settings . Thanks for the information.