A few things I really like about this video: 1/ Oris had the balls to let you say what you actually thought about the piece. #RESPECT 2/ You actually said what you thought about the piece (in a way that was hard on the issues, soft on the people). 3/ You included a very useful lesson regarding the economics of limited editions. (Those things had never occurred to me. I totally get it. Now I know.) Thanks to you, and thanks to Oris. I’m actually MORE inclined - not less - to buy an Oris watch in the future.
Harry Joiner thank for watching Harry. I’m going to go into detail in another video around my relationship with Oris. Rolf, the CEO of Oris, doesn’t care what bloggers or press say about their watches. They are proud if what they do and doesn’t need validation from anyone. They are far more confident than the large majority of brands.
I actually really like the patina and would want to see how it changes over time. The fact that different parts are ageing differently is how it's supposed to go. Way better than fake lume and the like. Wouldn't be my one and only watch, but would be a lot of fun to take a chance on this.
THANK YOU for doing this video. It is so hard to find decent photos, let alone press, of bronze cases after some patina. This has always put me off of them. It's a weird material where you're trying to picture what it's going to look like instead of taking it at face value like steel.
@@clegsmegson2627 You must be liking your own comments, because I'm not sure how anyone can call this watch excrement. If you don't like the bronze, buy it in steel. It's a great piece for the price.
Having owned a bronze CW C60 Trident for about two years, I've found that the patina varies greatly depending on where you live and other factors. When it was new, I wore it swimming in a pool to force a patina and was very unhappy with the dull finish that resulted. I researched and found a great many ways to force a patina, but none of them appealed to me. So I decided to keep it polished for the time being. Lo and behold, after a few months it got a beautiful patina just naturally. It is much mush better looking than the one you got and even the various forced patinas I saw in my research. That said, I live in Denver, CO, and the climate is very different here than most other places. I suggest before any bronze watch owner gives up, experiment. There is probably a way to get a patina that you love, as have I.
@@pMattpful bronze is reactive and the tighter you can make the surface graining such as say polishing = harder for it to oxidize because nothing can get in to the tight surface structure. While brushing is open and slightly pouros..
Also: There are "rubbing" and "polishing" effects from clothes one wear. Bezel surfaces always gets more clothes rubbing that's why they are more shine.
Still wearing a Broze Mako “batman” from Zelos. The patina never got beyond a middle brown. I live in Dallas so it doesn’t see salt water air or anything crazy to give it color. I ended up using a craft store bronze brown to make it look like an old statue. Lit it much better that way. The exterior looks like Ancient Rome, Under the sapphire looks shinny and new. I love the contrast.
I've owned the Oris Carl Brashear Bronze for a couple of years and I understand what you mean about preferring the bronze case in it's 'new' more shiny state. I swim in the sea with mine and actually enjoy the change to a darker, patchy bronze. Mine has never turned green like a bronze Panerai would. Whenever I get bored with the patina I make a fine paste with baking soda and water and brush gently with a VERY soft toothbrush. It never gets back to brand new condition, but takes on an amazing golden hue. Thanks for yet another great video. The location is sublime!
My Oris Big Crown was my first decent watch in the early 1990s and, although I've not worn it for over a decade, every time I see it, it brings a smile to my face - it still looks really good with its blue face and strap. Thanks for the NATO strap which I received last weeks - looks good on my Seamaster. Keep up the good work!
LOVE the red dial. Ah, and just when I thought I was set on the green variant. Great take on this model, and I really enjoy your outdoor chats. 100% my favorite watch channel.
Hey just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the live stream yesterday even though I caught it late last night. Looking forward to watching this. Oris are my favorite
After watching many bronze oris videos, so happy you did one months after to show the patina and looking forward to seeing the video where you attempt to remove.
Given the video a 👍 even though I was preparing to be annoyed from the outset due to number of negative comments the watch has been generating on social media. Can't argue with your opinions given that they are just that, opinions. I'm at exactly the same point in the patina journey as you right now. For me, the appeal of the watch is the changing nature of that case. Yes, I too preferred the watch when brand new, but I'm also loving not worrying about the condition of the case as time goes by and seeing something different in the case every week as it evolves. If the patina begins to annoy me, I'll just restore to original condition. Bronze cleaning is an easy diy job. Each to their own, but regardless of where this piece ranks in my collection, it's the most interactive experience I've had with a watch in ages. For me, that makes it worth the money, time and effort.
Aggghhhhh!!!!! Mate you are killing me! I just watched a video from 2018 about the big crown you did, absolute winner and I am won over...... Now this? This bronze model is FIRE! I'm sold on Oris anyway...... Killing me mate! Shame you aren't feeling it, really suits your style too👍
Love the honest review and also that you kept it for longer period. Not just an unboxing as in a: whoohoo... lookie here video. This is something that consumers encounter.
I've got the 40mm blue/grey dial with silver case and absolutely love it. Interestingly I'd gone in to buy the black dial but so glad I changed my mind. It is absolutely stunning. My wife has the 36mm bronze with green dial. The bronze hasn't aged too much yet but that green dial with the bronze is just brilliant. Both get a lot of comments.
I have two Bronze cased watches from H2O watch, one is solid Bronze, Blue Dial, Stainless steel exhibition back. The other is in Mokume Gane, a bronze and steel striation! Yes, bright and shiny with that gold look in the beginning. Over time they patinaed very nicely, each one takes on its own look. Making it different from someone else's bronzed case. It gives it a charm of its own! By the way, it did look awesome in steel with the blue dial! Thank You for the video and review!
Lovely landscapes. Great photography, lighting, sound. Entire production of your channel is very professional. I think we will all look back at the bronze cases and green, red, brown and odd color dial combos as a narrow style fad which will fall out of favor in a few years - that will be very very cheap to acquire.
You have always made great videos, and you continue to do so! I always love your choices of music and your outdoor locations are just incredible! Thank you for always bringing me joy through our shared hobby! Cheers Adrain!
Thanks for the video. You might already know this, but to get rid of the patina(most of it) you can cover your watch in lime/citrus juice for 10 min, then clean it with a soft brush 👍 i do it on mine every once in a while.
Thank you Adrian, I would have never considered a bronze watch until this video. I know that you said you are not a big fan but I got interested and pulled the trigger. Can’t wait to see it aging. So my conclusion: watch companies should not be too afraid about an honest personal opinion. You made this review and I got enthusiastic about buying a bronze watch. Because we are all different any honest review is good for us watch people. Again - thank you !
Adrian, you have truly amped up your video style and it is greatly appreciated. The walks afield and talking watches makes the content extremely enjoyable. Give the watch another six months of wear and the case patina will deepen even more to almost a milk chocolate brown. Will be interesting to see that with that deep red dial. Great follow-on review.
It will probably get even darker... You'd expect some flecks of green too at some stage. Wonder how the resale will be in the future for these models on the Used market.
Hey Adrian, maybe it’s just my Panasonic 58” TV but I think your last 3-4 videos (for me anyway) have a black border around them that’s stylish BUT the image is now slightly ‘squidged’ as anamorphic problems...all ordinary TV and every UA-cam videos I view have no problems. I’ve scanned a few comments on your videos since I first noticed this effect and no one else has mentioned this!!??...again my TV is fine with everything but your videos!!!!?🤪 Great work again as usual, cheers Nic
Have had mine for over a year now. Its a very versatile watch which can be worn both casually and also looks great with formal attire, loving the patina on this piece. If anyone would be kind enough to let me know if I had to clean the Patina what would be a better alternative rather then using lemon juice?
Great video, and I agree. I sold my bronze. The full patina was nice, but not my style. There are too many other watches out there for me to settle. Great video and I like the landscape video. Cheers
love the new natural touch of the videos. Can't wait to make some holiday there! While I love the "new! bronze look, i really don't like when it gets old - i am kind of a "new-look" watch guy but i hear that a lot of people like it when the watch has its "character"
I’ve got the bronze case green dial. After about 10 months, patina looks very similar, so it may not advance much further. Normal wear will always rub parts of the case/bezel making them shinier. But, if bronze isn’t for you, ORIS has lots of other stuff.
Hey Adrian. First of all, you’re the man. And I love your videos. I just got married over this past weekend on a yacht in Clearwater beach, FL. One of my biggest and most difficult choices was which watch to wear. I decided on the seiko presage cocktail (blue dial variant) which my wife got me as a Christmas present. I thought an interesting video idea would be something involving what watch to wear for a wedding. Like a “top 5” or something. Just throwing it out there for you. Hope all is well and keep up the fantastic work. Cheers!
Lemon Juice for patina removal. I own bronze diver 65 and I can say that patina looks better once it matures to an even dark tone, yours is going through a patchy phase where it’s not uniform. It does get better. Also I notice that parts that come into more contact with skin patina faster which may explain why your bezel is still shiny.
Had the same experience with my Oris Diver 65 Bico. Loved it in the beginning as a fun summer piece, but found the aggressive patina off-putting and will try flipping it.
I’ve had the blue version for a couple years now and I also prefer it in the new and shiny phase .all it takes however is the occasional rub down with a face cloth to maintain its lustre
This video is so cinematic and your location is beautiful. You are really upping the quality of your video and editing (which was already excellent). I actually like the patina better than the original and prefer the colour of this dial over the stainless. That is what is cool about watch collecting...in showing what you don't like about bronze has made me think maybe I would like one. Thank you for another fantastic video Adrian :)
Most seem to have remorse with their bronze accessories, as they patina. I truly dig that look, and to further that, the contrast of pricey thing that looks grimey...I like the conversation around that.
I'm sorry you aren't fully happy with the patina I'm actually looking forward to my watch aging the most! Would love to see a more recent update video to see how it's come along!
I bought the stainless steel version with a blue dial as a daily wear to mix with my other watches. The first thing to say is it's all good. Feels good, light and comfy and of course it keeps good time. The serious note to make is these are not holding any value so you could get one like I did for less than half price, second hand, with only a few months wear on it. It's a good watch and I'm very pleased so far. I do like the bronze version but in my local dealer they only had a couple which sold very quickly. I also swapped the strap for a Watch Gecko Winchester brown leather, which is very soft and supple and at just £20 is a bargain.
Great to see these reviews from after you’ve grown accustomed to the watch. This actually turned me on to a watch I had largely dismissed. The bronze patina doesn’t bother me (though I fully get why it would bother some people) and the brown face looks less odd out in natural light. Great and informative review! Now if only they could put that blue dial in a bronze case...
Adrian, great video. Probably one of the best watch channels on UA-cam. Very good perspective on the limited editions. That hadn't occurred to me. Cheers.
I like the watch. Same for the 80th anniversary one with the green dial. The easiest way to remove the patina is to dissolve a pill of Kukident (bite cleaner) in a small glass and let rest the watch in it for a day...
Terrific review! I have several bronze cases, and they do get "browner" over time. This one has WAY more to go. You can see a few spots on your case, and those will actually turn green after some time.
Crazy how much different the case looks from the first video would have to see in person new and aged to make a decision for myself if I would like having one however great content Adrian enjoy both videos.
To remove the patena, do a q-tip in a mild clear vinegar and gently rub it on the patenaed surfaces. Try to avoid excess fluid around seal areas, i.e., the chrystal and the crown. Vinegar is a mild acid and over time could accelerate seal deterioration.
Nice review! I have a Oris Bico and am with you on the look of bronze. Some days it's meh but other days it's wow. Drop it in vinegar for a couple of minutes to remove patina. Brush with toothbrush afterwards. Fizzy drink and citrus is gentler than vinegar but takes longer.
Please definitely do that video on how best to clean up bronze watches! My Halios needs attention, as unfortunately I now feel the same about patina! 😣 Great vid as always
@@BarkandJack Saying that, mine is currently being fumed by vinegar to see how horrible I can get it before your video is dropped!! If your advice fails, I'll see you at the London Watch Show and make you wear it all day! 😉
On special or limited edition watches: The Oris ones I've seen are available (not too limited). They don't cost a ton extra, and my understanding is the extra they do charge goes to charity. Done this way it's a little fun and style choice for the consumer.
I have a tc -9 bronze with titanium back &crown, I don’t like the patina when it’s too dark so I’ve used brasso & lightly cleaned it leaving SOME patina, but I prefer stainless steel now! I will sell it.
The bezel has held the shine better than the case because it is the highest part of the watch and gets polished by your cuff, the crown also gets a polish when the movement of the back of your wrist rubs against it.
Hmm, you're right, there's something that definitely looks off to me. I'm not sure if it's the patina on the bronze case or the dial contrasting with the black strap. I would like to see it on the original strap with the patina and whether that makes it look better. I think you've just convinced me that I don't want a bronze watch after all lol ... I agree with you - the original condition of the case was gorgeous, reminded me of a red gold you'd see on an Omega or something.
I’m amazed at the variation of the different levels of patina on the various parts. I have the Diver 65 and have not observed much patina at all on the bezel. I chalked that up to the fact that I turn it quite a bit, but it seems the bezels may be made out of a different bronze.
I like the darkening of the patina. I don’t have much expertise with bronze watch cases, but I do know that bronze boat fixtures can either be cleaned or left with the protective patina. It’s another case of personal preference. Some boat owners prefer the shiny, clean maintained look- others prefer the patina.
I don't have the link handy, but Panerai have a video about the making of their limited edition bronze watches (good video). I remember they mention that the case can be re-brightened (if desired) by dipping it in denture cleaner or something like that (don't quote me!).
Thanks for doing this, knowing how the case is going to change and how quickly is very helpful. I think the red dial Oris has available for the steel version would look better with the bronze case to give it a more complementary contrast.
Great watch and useful commentary. Bronze certainly isn't for everyone, and I myself have been eyeing this one or the Tudor BB Bronze. Will probably go ahead with a more conventional piece.
Some bronze watches suit patina more than others, a big bronze Panerai looks great with a heavy patina. A really wrecked looking watch on a really destroyed, distressed leather strap has a certain charm if you get the combination right.
I have 2 bronze divers that have never been in water but have great 1.5 year natural patinas that in my estimation look fantastic and quite different from what is going on so far with that Oris. That patina is only just starting and is in that "homeless" stage you mentioned. I laughed my ass off at that metaphor. One of the beautiful aspects of a deep older patina is the varied areas and richness of colors and surfaces. You don't really want a sameness all over. Edges that often rub against sleeve ends etc... develop a soft mellow warm burnished quality and recessed areas become a flat, darker, brownish sometimes with a hint of greens beautiful aged 'grunge'. I was patient with mine and did not force the patina which I think looks really bad and unnatural. I am really tempted to get a bronze Oris Big Crown Pointer Date Bronze but unfortunately I don't love any of the dial colors. I wonder if part of your lack of interest in this particular one might be that bronze dial. I don't think that plays well at all with the bronze case or hands. Personally I'd love a very dark green or a black with cream lume.
To remove the patina, I'd simply use NevrDull. It doesn't contain abrasives, it doesn't remove metal, it doesn't leave any residue when applied/used correctly. I have a solid brass Zippo that I've owned since the early 90s and that I've used NevrDull on whenever I got tired of the patina. Restores the look of the brass perfectly every time and hasn't done any damage whatsoever.
you might want to check/try the Christopher Ward bronze Ombre limited edition (dive watch). it mixes bronze with black (on the bezel and inside the dial), and in my opinion looks a lot better than oris's option. it looks amazing in pictures and is stunning in person. still not a fan of bronze watches, but CW,s just looks amazing. i'm certain i'll still like it even after it develops patina (only had it for a week or so). muhle glashutte also has a limited edition of a bronze dive watch that combines bronze with blue, and also looks a lot better than just simple bronze. maybe that's the way to make them stand out after the watch loses it's shine. cheers!
Hey Adrian, There is a video here on UA-cam by Christopher ward, the title is how to clean and take care of your bronze watch. It's really good and shows in an easy way how to clean your bronze watch. For people like you who don't like the patina of bronze can clean it like that.
@@BarkandJack just returning the favor. Keep up with the great content!! Also hope you do figure out the cleaning part before you have to return to oris, if so can put up a follow up video on it.
Funny how different the tastes are especially when it comes to bronze cases. I like the patina so much that i actually force it. The issues is, that most of the bronze watches are designed (dial, hand, case back) to look good in the shiny new state without considering any patina. That’s understandable because that’s the condition the manufacturer has to sell it. For me the biggest upside of a bronze watch is that I get an uneven and therefor unique patina. Than it becomes your personal watch.
I'm curious to see what oris releases this year, not sure if they are at Basel. Bronze is over done now and old news IMO. New color dials in the pointer date, new color ways in the diver 65??? What's does everyone think?
An enjoyable video ,in a wild setting.It looks like a decent watch.The bronze issue is quite devisive.It will be interesting to see how the patina develops.Nice watch strap.
The other factor will be where the wear is on the case (like your cuff rubbing on the bezel) as that will remove/reduce the oxidation. For cleaning back there are loads of recipes using baking soda, flour, water and vinegar. T cut and toothbrush, Coca Cola, ketchup, cape cod cloth are others.
I love the presentation style, production quality. Very nice video. Wonderful setting. I'd like to see that model fully patina'd. Appreciate your forthright opinion and your wife's! I like the original shiny too, BUT in the long haul, it would be a daily driver for me and banging the bronze around and aging it...would make it mine. You are correct about the strap choice. I don't care about the back. Oris doesn't just have LTD Ed. watches, their normal variety is GREAT fun. I have a black dial bronze bezel 65. Love it.
Thank you for that review. I really like the look fresh out of factory. It looks like rose gold and in combination with the red or green dial, which I prefer, it really feels like the perfect fall/winter watch. But... I wondered what it would look like when it patinas. I really like the overall design of it and it had a bit of a grail watch status for me, but now I’d rather go with a stainless steel case...
I think this Oris of yours is perfect,keep it,I love the look of it,I have a TC9 seiko movement and the bronze turtle is now a dark red-brown,but my steinhart bronze is a dark brass colour!! Why? But I love both,I don’t believe in forcing patina it develops naturally over a short time,however all you have to do is put it on a nato and wear it in the sea and let the sun dry it,then it looks amazing but after wearing it it mellows back and even self polishes in places.hardly anyone comments on my steel watches BUT I get loads of comments on my 2 bronze ones even women! The, have a warm look to them,I also have a brass tc9 pilot and it looks the same colour as my steihart! The steinhart says bronze on the back.
I think the mismatched levels of patina are likely caused by your contact with the watch, you touch the crown to adjust the time and maybe wind it sometimes, you clean the crystal and your cloth will gently also be cleaning the bezel. If this is the case (heh case) then I actually kind of like that idea weirdly, it kind of shows the marks of your interaction with it. Great video :)
Been watching your videos for sometime, however, I came about this accidently while I was research about Bronze watches. Love this format, very close to the Pelagos blue that I've watched before. Good job and keep those reviews coming. On a side note, I was thinking about getting the new IWC pilot chronograph in Bronze, just worried how does it look over time.
Adrian, I don't disagree with your comments but my opinion is different to yours. I like the original strap and think it suits the watch. I wouldn't change it for anything else, even a Bark and Jack strap. I love mine, although I have to wear my glasses to see the date but that's a consequence of growing old. I took to it the moment I saw it and when the AD gave me a decent discount, I just had to take it home. The patina gives it an individual character, making it a unique piece.
I love the patina on the crown already. I bet after 5 or so years with more wear, tear and patina on a decent well weathered leather strap this watch would look amazing. Personally I’d like the rotor not to be red, but bronze, it’d be so cool 👍
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Did you restock the horween straps?
Apparently HP brown sauce works to remove the patina. (Heard this from the guys at the UK Oris service centre.) I have personally never tried it.
Craig Sekowski the horween straps will be back in stock in 4 weeks and we will have more colours. 👍🏻
Lee Evans thanks a lot Lee, I’ll give that a go. 👍🏻
@@BarkandJack Thats great news...can't wait to see the new edition.
A few things I really like about this video:
1/ Oris had the balls to let you say what you actually thought about the piece. #RESPECT
2/ You actually said what you thought about the piece (in a way that was hard on the issues, soft on the people).
3/ You included a very useful lesson regarding the economics of limited editions. (Those things had never occurred to me. I totally get it. Now I know.)
Thanks to you, and thanks to Oris. I’m actually MORE inclined - not less - to buy an Oris watch in the future.
Harry Joiner thank for watching Harry. I’m going to go into detail in another video around my relationship with Oris. Rolf, the CEO of Oris, doesn’t care what bloggers or press say about their watches. They are proud if what they do and doesn’t need validation from anyone. They are far more confident than the large majority of brands.
Agreed. It was very good in all ways.
Nice post
Harry Joiner Great comment Harry 👍
Harry Joiner - great comment & I can’t help but agree, the honesty of this video makes me a more likely customer, despite what consumerism tells us
I almost like it more now that it’s toned down. I like the contrast in color. I see what you’re saying but I’m loving the patina!
Same here.
Thinking about buying it for about 2 months now... we all know what that means...
I actually really like the patina and would want to see how it changes over time. The fact that different parts are ageing differently is how it's supposed to go. Way better than fake lume and the like. Wouldn't be my one and only watch, but would be a lot of fun to take a chance on this.
Exactly!
THANK YOU for doing this video. It is so hard to find decent photos, let alone press, of bronze cases after some patina. This has always put me off of them. It's a weird material where you're trying to picture what it's going to look like instead of taking it at face value like steel.
I think it looks gorgeous now. I’ve come close to buying this watch a handful of times.
This watch is excrement.
@@clegsmegson2627 You must be liking your own comments, because I'm not sure how anyone can call this watch excrement. If you don't like the bronze, buy it in steel. It's a great piece for the price.
@@rousseau327 I only wear Patek or AP. You stick to Oris or Seiko my friend.
Cleg Smegson then why do you watch this video???
@@clegsmegson2627 Lol, what a joke
Having owned a bronze CW C60 Trident for about two years, I've found that the patina varies greatly depending on where you live and other factors. When it was new, I wore it swimming in a pool to force a patina and was very unhappy with the dull finish that resulted. I researched and found a great many ways to force a patina, but none of them appealed to me. So I decided to keep it polished for the time being. Lo and behold, after a few months it got a beautiful patina just naturally. It is much mush better looking than the one you got and even the various forced patinas I saw in my research. That said, I live in Denver, CO, and the climate is very different here than most other places. I suggest before any bronze watch owner gives up, experiment. There is probably a way to get a patina that you love, as have I.
I agree with you on the strap but gotta say - I absolutely love the way that thing has patina’d and should only get better.
Surface finish differences is why its aging differently..
Brushed = oxidizes faster (case)
Machined = oxidizes slower (crown and bezel)
Oh right. That’s really interesting. Thanks so much. 👍🏻
No shit!?
I’m guessing there’s something about surface area making that phenomenon happen? I imagine brushing a surface increases the surface’s area quickly
@@pMattpful bronze is reactive and the tighter you can make the surface graining such as say polishing = harder for it to oxidize because nothing can get in to the tight surface structure. While brushing is open and slightly pouros..
Also: There are "rubbing" and "polishing" effects from clothes one wear. Bezel surfaces always gets more clothes rubbing that's why they are more shine.
Still wearing a Broze Mako “batman” from Zelos. The patina never got beyond a middle brown. I live in Dallas so it doesn’t see salt water air or anything crazy to give it color. I ended up using a craft store bronze brown to make it look like an old statue. Lit it much better that way. The exterior looks like Ancient Rome, Under the sapphire looks shinny and new. I love the contrast.
Not been here for a while, really like what you’re doing! But man, that watch is getting incredibly beautiful:-)
I've owned the Oris Carl Brashear Bronze for a couple of years and I understand what you mean about preferring the bronze case in it's 'new' more shiny state. I swim in the sea with mine and actually enjoy the change to a darker, patchy bronze. Mine has never turned green like a bronze Panerai would.
Whenever I get bored with the patina I make a fine paste with baking soda and water and brush gently with a VERY soft toothbrush. It never gets back to brand new condition, but takes on an amazing golden hue.
Thanks for yet another great video. The location is sublime!
My Oris Big Crown was my first decent watch in the early 1990s and, although I've not worn it for over a decade, every time I see it, it brings a smile to my face - it still looks really good with its blue face and strap. Thanks for the NATO strap which I received last weeks - looks good on my Seamaster. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the honest review ! I find this watch absolutely gorgeous, even with this current uneven patina ! Cheers
LOVE the red dial. Ah, and just when I thought I was set on the green variant. Great take on this model, and I really enjoy your outdoor chats. 100% my favorite watch channel.
I sold my Tudor BBB...I needed another bronze in the collection so I purchased this for 1500usd...l’m pleased.
Thanks for the content.
Hey just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the live stream yesterday even though I caught it late last night. Looking forward to watching this. Oris are my favorite
Michael Fierman thanks for watching the livestream. It was really good fun.
After watching many bronze oris videos, so happy you did one months after to show the patina and looking forward to seeing the video where you attempt to remove.
Given the video a 👍 even though I was preparing to be annoyed from the outset due to number of negative comments the watch has been generating on social media. Can't argue with your opinions given that they are just that, opinions. I'm at exactly the same point in the patina journey as you right now. For me, the appeal of the watch is the changing nature of that case. Yes, I too preferred the watch when brand new, but I'm also loving not worrying about the condition of the case as time goes by and seeing something different in the case every week as it evolves. If the patina begins to annoy me, I'll just restore to original condition. Bronze cleaning is an easy diy job. Each to their own, but regardless of where this piece ranks in my collection, it's the most interactive experience I've had with a watch in ages. For me, that makes it worth the money, time and effort.
Glad you’re getting on with your piece. And you’re 100% right, what we are talking about here is just personal opinion. 👍🏻
Really love Oris big pointer date bronze. Owned the green dial version & loving it!!!!!
Aggghhhhh!!!!! Mate you are killing me!
I just watched a video from 2018 about the big crown you did, absolute winner and I am won over...... Now this?
This bronze model is FIRE! I'm sold on Oris anyway...... Killing me mate!
Shame you aren't feeling it, really suits your style too👍
Love that watch. Green dial is my favorite. Love how it has gained patina over time. Also like the contrast between modern back and vintage front.
Love the honest review and also that you kept it for longer period. Not just an unboxing as in a: whoohoo... lookie here video. This is something that consumers encounter.
I've got the 40mm blue/grey dial with silver case and absolutely love it. Interestingly I'd gone in to buy the black dial but so glad I changed my mind. It is absolutely stunning. My wife has the 36mm bronze with green dial. The bronze hasn't aged too much yet but that green dial with the bronze is just brilliant. Both get a lot of comments.
I have two Bronze cased watches from H2O watch, one is solid Bronze, Blue Dial, Stainless steel exhibition back. The other is in Mokume Gane, a bronze and steel striation! Yes, bright and shiny with that gold look in the beginning. Over time they patinaed very nicely, each one takes on its own look. Making it different from someone else's bronzed case. It gives it a charm of its own! By the way, it did look awesome in steel with the blue dial!
Thank You for the video and review!
Lovely landscapes. Great photography, lighting, sound. Entire production of your channel is very professional. I think we will all look back at the bronze cases and green, red, brown and odd color dial combos as a narrow style fad which will fall out of favor in a few years - that will be very very cheap to acquire.
I think the watch looks amazing! New and after 2 months. Very lovely timepiece
Same issue with a bronze and brown face watch of mine. Now I use wipes to maintain that poor man’s gold look. Thanks for the insightful material.
What sort of wipes do you use?
Bark and Jack. Silver polish disposable wipes, similar to Cape Cod but less harsh.
You have always made great videos, and you continue to do so! I always love your choices of music and your outdoor locations are just incredible! Thank you for always bringing me joy through our shared hobby! Cheers Adrain!
My doctor has a very aged dive watch in Bronze. Bronze does seem to be better suited for a diver. Excellent photography.
Thanks for the video.
You might already know this, but to get rid of the patina(most of it) you can cover your watch in lime/citrus juice for 10 min, then clean it with a soft brush 👍 i do it on mine every once in a while.
Thank you Adrian, I would have never considered a bronze watch until this video. I know that you said you are not a big fan but I got interested and pulled the trigger. Can’t wait to see it aging. So my conclusion: watch companies should not be too afraid about an honest personal opinion. You made this review and I got enthusiastic about buying a bronze watch. Because we are all different any honest review is good for us watch people. Again - thank you !
Adrian I just got myself a new 4K oled and I must say your content looks absolutely stunning on it.
Great video 👍
That’s awesome. I’m really glad it turns out ok on a big TV. 👍🏻
Adrian, you have truly amped up your video style and it is greatly appreciated. The walks afield and talking watches makes the content extremely enjoyable.
Give the watch another six months of wear and the case patina will deepen even more to almost a milk chocolate brown. Will be interesting to see that with that deep red dial. Great follow-on review.
It will probably get even darker... You'd expect some flecks of green too at some stage. Wonder how the resale will be in the future for these models on the Used market.
Hey Adrian, maybe it’s just my Panasonic 58” TV but I think your last 3-4 videos (for me anyway) have a black border around them that’s stylish BUT the image is now slightly ‘squidged’ as anamorphic problems...all ordinary TV and every UA-cam videos I view have no problems.
I’ve scanned a few comments on your videos since I first noticed this effect and no one else has mentioned this!!??...again my TV is fine with everything but your videos!!!!?🤪
Great work again as usual, cheers Nic
For me the patina is the charm - always changing and looks awesome. I agree the strap needs to go! Nice video
Recently bought an Oris diver 65 after watching another of your videos. Fantastic watches !
Congrats mate. The divers65 is an awesome range. My favourite Oris range for sure. 👍🏻
Have had mine for over a year now. Its a very versatile watch which can be worn both casually and also looks great with formal attire, loving the patina on this piece. If anyone would be kind enough to let me know if I had to clean the Patina what would be a better alternative rather then using lemon juice?
I think it looks better now. The patina looks warm and a much nicer than the bronze Tudor watches.
Great video, and I agree. I sold my bronze. The full patina was nice, but not my style. There are too many other watches out there for me to settle. Great video and I like the landscape video. Cheers
love the new natural touch of the videos. Can't wait to make some holiday there!
While I love the "new! bronze look, i really don't like when it gets old - i am kind of a "new-look" watch guy but i hear that a lot of people like it when the watch has its "character"
Thanks so much for watching Kai. 👍🏻
I’ve got the bronze case green dial. After about 10 months, patina looks very similar, so it may not advance much further. Normal wear will always rub parts of the case/bezel making them shinier. But, if bronze isn’t for you, ORIS has lots of other stuff.
I also have the green dial, the contract with the bronze is superb!
Hey Adrian. First of all, you’re the man. And I love your videos. I just got married over this past weekend on a yacht in Clearwater beach, FL. One of my biggest and most difficult choices was which watch to wear. I decided on the seiko presage cocktail (blue dial variant) which my wife got me as a Christmas present. I thought an interesting video idea would be something involving what watch to wear for a wedding. Like a “top 5” or something. Just throwing it out there for you. Hope all is well and keep up the fantastic work. Cheers!
Lemon Juice for patina removal.
I own bronze diver 65 and I can say that patina looks better once it matures to an even dark tone, yours is going through a patchy phase where it’s not uniform. It does get better. Also I notice that parts that come into more contact with skin patina faster which may explain why your bezel is still shiny.
"until I'm rich enough..." there's the difference in mindset and attitude with most people, congrats Adrien. No limits.
Had the same experience with my Oris Diver 65 Bico. Loved it in the beginning as a fun summer piece, but found the aggressive patina off-putting and will try flipping it.
I’ve had the blue version for a couple years now and I also prefer it in the new and shiny phase .all it takes however is the occasional rub down with a face cloth to maintain its lustre
This video is so cinematic and your location is beautiful. You are really upping the quality of your video and editing (which was already excellent). I actually like the patina better than the original and prefer the colour of this dial over the stainless. That is what is cool about watch collecting...in showing what you don't like about bronze has made me think maybe I would like one. Thank you for another fantastic video Adrian :)
Thanks so much for watching Jeffrey and I’m so glad you feel the quality is improving. 👍🏻
Most seem to have remorse with their bronze accessories, as they patina. I truly dig that look, and to further that, the contrast of pricey thing that looks grimey...I like the conversation around that.
I'm sorry you aren't fully happy with the patina I'm actually looking forward to my watch aging the most! Would love to see a more recent update video to see how it's come along!
I bought the stainless steel version with a blue dial as a daily wear to mix with my other watches. The first thing to say is it's all good. Feels good, light and comfy and of course it keeps good time. The serious note to make is these are not holding any value so you could get one like I did for less than half price, second hand, with only a few months wear on it. It's a good watch and I'm very pleased so far. I do like the bronze version but in my local dealer they only had a couple which sold very quickly. I also swapped the strap for a Watch Gecko Winchester brown leather, which is very soft and supple and at just £20 is a bargain.
Great to see these reviews from after you’ve grown accustomed to the watch. This actually turned me on to a watch I had largely dismissed. The bronze patina doesn’t bother me (though I fully get why it would bother some people) and the brown face looks less odd out in natural light. Great and informative review! Now if only they could put that blue dial in a bronze case...
Adrian, great video. Probably one of the best watch channels on UA-cam. Very good perspective on the limited editions. That hadn't occurred to me. Cheers.
I like the watch. Same for the 80th anniversary one with the green dial. The easiest way to remove the patina is to dissolve a pill of Kukident (bite cleaner) in a small glass and let rest the watch in it for a day...
Terrific review! I have several bronze cases, and they do get "browner" over time. This one has WAY more to go. You can see a few spots on your case, and those will actually turn green after some time.
Check out the Baltic Bronze watch. They have a blend of bronze that causes it to patina slower.
I wonder if you have become a little jaded! It's a beautiful watch, brilliant colour dial and I love the bronze. Absolute classic. Be well.
usually i dont like watches as big as these and im more in the "minimalistic" type of watches got a 7010T gs rn and this oris looks wonderful
Crazy how much different the case looks from the first video would have to see in person new and aged to make a decision for myself if I would like having one however great content Adrian enjoy both videos.
I watched this and thought, man I need to get a watch with a bronze case and try it out because that looks amazing.
This watch is excrement.
@@clegsmegson2627 Man, you got a personal vendetta against Oris huh? They shit in your crib when you were a baby or somethingg?
To remove the patena, do a q-tip in a mild clear vinegar and gently rub it on the patenaed surfaces. Try to avoid excess fluid around seal areas, i.e., the chrystal and the crown. Vinegar is a mild acid and over time could accelerate seal deterioration.
Nice review! I have a Oris Bico and am with you on the look of bronze. Some days it's meh but other days it's wow.
Drop it in vinegar for a couple of minutes to remove patina. Brush with toothbrush afterwards. Fizzy drink and citrus is gentler than vinegar but takes longer.
Please definitely do that video on how best to clean up bronze watches! My Halios needs attention, as unfortunately I now feel the same about patina! 😣
Great vid as always
Glad I’m not alone on the patina front. I will do a video on how to clean the case. 👍🏻
@@BarkandJack Saying that, mine is currently being fumed by vinegar to see how horrible I can get it before your video is dropped!! If your advice fails, I'll see you at the London Watch Show and make you wear it all day! 😉
On special or limited edition watches: The Oris ones I've seen are available (not too limited). They don't cost a ton extra, and my understanding is the extra they do charge goes to charity. Done this way it's a little fun and style choice for the consumer.
I have a tc -9 bronze with titanium back &crown, I don’t like the patina when it’s too dark so I’ve used brasso & lightly cleaned it leaving SOME patina, but I prefer stainless steel now! I will sell it.
Damn the color grade of the video is top notch! Great job Adrien.
The bezel has held the shine better than the case because it is the highest part of the watch and gets polished by your cuff, the crown also gets a polish when the movement of the back of your wrist rubs against it.
Hmm, you're right, there's something that definitely looks off to me. I'm not sure if it's the patina on the bronze case or the dial contrasting with the black strap. I would like to see it on the original strap with the patina and whether that makes it look better. I think you've just convinced me that I don't want a bronze watch after all lol ...
I agree with you - the original condition of the case was gorgeous, reminded me of a red gold you'd see on an Omega or something.
A little bit of never dull will bring that back to new.
I’m amazed at the variation of the different levels of patina on the various parts. I have the Diver 65 and have not observed much patina at all on the bezel. I chalked that up to the fact that I turn it quite a bit, but it seems the bezels may be made out of a different bronze.
I like the darkening of the patina. I don’t have much expertise with bronze watch cases, but I do know that bronze boat fixtures can either be cleaned or left with the protective patina. It’s another case of personal preference. Some boat owners prefer the shiny, clean maintained look- others prefer the patina.
I don't have the link handy, but Panerai have a video about the making of their limited edition bronze watches (good video). I remember they mention that the case can be re-brightened (if desired) by dipping it in denture cleaner or something like that (don't quote me!).
When British people say "literally", I always smile. Cheers from across the pond, Adrian! B&J has grown nicely.
Thanks for doing this, knowing how the case is going to change and how quickly is very helpful. I think the red dial Oris has available for the steel version would look better with the bronze case to give it a more complementary contrast.
Nice video, thanks.
Why do you have to remove the patina? Seems daft to lend a bronze watch and expect it to be returned ‘cleaned’ 😃
Thanks Adrian for your honest opinions, as a viewer I appriciate that a lot!👌🏻😉😍
Thanks a lot for watching buddy. 👍🏻
Great watch and useful commentary. Bronze certainly isn't for everyone, and I myself have been eyeing this one or the Tudor BB Bronze. Will probably go ahead with a more conventional piece.
Some bronze watches suit patina more than others, a big bronze Panerai looks great with a heavy patina. A really wrecked looking watch on a really destroyed, distressed leather strap has a certain charm if you get the combination right.
I want the green one... I have the white dial Hunter Team 38mm with diamonds. I absolutely love it!
The thing I like about my bronze (dive) watch is that the patina changes - particularly in and out of salt water. It's like wearing a living thing
I have 2 bronze divers that have never been in water but have great 1.5 year natural patinas that in my estimation look fantastic and quite different from what is going on so far with that Oris. That patina is only just starting and is in that "homeless" stage you mentioned. I laughed my ass off at that metaphor. One of the beautiful aspects of a deep older patina is the varied areas and richness of colors and surfaces. You don't really want a sameness all over. Edges that often rub against sleeve ends etc... develop a soft mellow warm burnished quality and recessed areas become a flat, darker, brownish sometimes with a hint of greens beautiful aged 'grunge'. I was patient with mine and did not force the patina which I think looks really bad and unnatural.
I am really tempted to get a bronze Oris Big Crown Pointer Date Bronze but unfortunately I don't love any of the dial colors. I wonder if part of your lack of interest in this particular one might be that bronze dial. I don't think that plays well at all with the bronze case or hands. Personally I'd love a very dark green or a black with cream lume.
To remove the patina, I'd simply use NevrDull. It doesn't contain abrasives, it doesn't remove metal, it doesn't leave any residue when applied/used correctly. I have a solid brass Zippo that I've owned since the early 90s and that I've used NevrDull on whenever I got tired of the patina. Restores the look of the brass perfectly every time and hasn't done any damage whatsoever.
you might want to check/try the Christopher Ward bronze Ombre limited edition (dive watch). it mixes bronze with black (on the bezel and inside the dial), and in my opinion looks a lot better than oris's option. it looks amazing in pictures and is stunning in person. still not a fan of bronze watches, but CW,s just looks amazing. i'm certain i'll still like it even after it develops patina (only had it for a week or so). muhle glashutte also has a limited edition of a bronze dive watch that combines bronze with blue, and also looks a lot better than just simple bronze. maybe that's the way to make them stand out after the watch loses it's shine. cheers!
Hey Adrian,
There is a video here on UA-cam by Christopher ward, the title is how to clean and take care of your bronze watch.
It's really good and shows in an easy way how to clean your bronze watch.
For people like you who don't like the patina of bronze can clean it like that.
Thanks a lot mate. I’ll check it out. 👍🏻
@@BarkandJack just returning the favor. Keep up with the great content!!
Also hope you do figure out the cleaning part before you have to return to oris, if so can put up a follow up video on it.
Funny how different the tastes are especially when it comes to bronze cases. I like the patina so much that i actually force it.
The issues is, that most of the bronze watches are designed (dial, hand, case back) to look good in the shiny new state without considering any patina. That’s understandable because that’s the condition the manufacturer has to sell it. For me the biggest upside of a bronze watch is that I get an uneven and therefor unique patina. Than it becomes your personal watch.
I'm curious to see what oris releases this year, not sure if they are at Basel. Bronze is over done now and old news IMO. New color dials in the pointer date, new color ways in the diver 65??? What's does everyone think?
An enjoyable video ,in a wild setting.It looks like a decent watch.The bronze issue is quite devisive.It will be interesting to see how the patina develops.Nice watch strap.
I have the green dial bronze and love it. You know what you are going into when you get a bronze case.
Hello! Does the inside of the watch patina? Like the hands and date indicator? Or is that a different material? Thanks!!
The other factor will be where the wear is on the case (like your cuff rubbing on the bezel) as that will remove/reduce the oxidation. For cleaning back there are loads of recipes using baking soda, flour, water and vinegar. T cut and toothbrush, Coca Cola, ketchup, cape cod cloth are others.
I love the presentation style, production quality. Very nice video. Wonderful setting. I'd like to see that model fully patina'd. Appreciate your forthright opinion and your wife's! I like the original shiny too, BUT in the long haul, it would be a daily driver for me and banging the bronze around and aging it...would make it mine. You are correct about the strap choice. I don't care about the back. Oris doesn't just have LTD Ed. watches, their normal variety is GREAT fun. I have a black dial bronze bezel 65. Love it.
Thank you for that review. I really like the look fresh out of factory. It looks like rose gold and in combination with the red or green dial, which I prefer, it really feels like the perfect fall/winter watch. But... I wondered what it would look like when it patinas. I really like the overall design of it and it had a bit of a grail watch status for me, but now I’d rather go with a stainless steel case...
Yeah I think the steel versions are safer. 👍🏻
I think this Oris of yours is perfect,keep it,I love the look of it,I have a TC9 seiko movement and the bronze turtle is now a dark red-brown,but my steinhart bronze is a dark brass colour!! Why? But I love both,I don’t believe in forcing patina it develops naturally over a short time,however all you have to do is put it on a nato and wear it in the sea and let the sun dry it,then it looks amazing but after wearing it it mellows back and even self polishes in places.hardly anyone comments on my steel watches BUT I get loads of comments on my 2 bronze ones even women! The, have a warm look to them,I also have a brass tc9 pilot and it looks the same colour as my steihart! The steinhart says bronze on the back.
I think the mismatched levels of patina are likely caused by your contact with the watch, you touch the crown to adjust the time and maybe wind it sometimes, you clean the crystal and your cloth will gently also be cleaning the bezel.
If this is the case (heh case) then I actually kind of like that idea weirdly, it kind of shows the marks of your interaction with it.
Great video :)
Been watching your videos for sometime, however, I came about this accidently while I was research about Bronze watches. Love this format, very close to the Pelagos blue that I've watched before. Good job and keep those reviews coming. On a side note, I was thinking about getting the new IWC pilot chronograph in Bronze, just worried how does it look over time.
Adrian, I don't disagree with your comments but my opinion is different to yours. I like the original strap and think it suits the watch. I wouldn't change it for anything else, even a Bark and Jack strap. I love mine, although I have to wear my glasses to see the date but that's a consequence of growing old. I took to it the moment I saw it and when the AD gave me a decent discount, I just had to take it home. The patina gives it an individual character, making it a unique piece.
wonder if the bronze patina would look better with the blue or green dial? more of a contrast
I love the patina on the crown already. I bet after 5 or so years with more wear, tear and patina on a decent well weathered leather strap this watch would look amazing. Personally I’d like the rotor not to be red, but bronze, it’d be so cool 👍
I ve got the same watch, really easy to clean with white vinegar, it looks brand new after ! ;)