Bronze watch after 2 months! - Oris Big Crown Pointer Date
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2020
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I thought I'd share a follow up video to the Oris Big Crown Pointer Date in Bronze. I think it's important for people to see how it the patina changes the feel of the bronze case.
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Did you restock the horween straps?
Apparently HP brown sauce works to remove the patina. (Heard this from the guys at the UK Oris service centre.) I have personally never tried it.
Craig Sekowski the horween straps will be back in stock in 4 weeks and we will have more colours. 👍🏻
Lee Evans thanks a lot Lee, I’ll give that a go. 👍🏻
@@BarkandJack Thats great news...can't wait to see the new edition.
A few things I really like about this video:
1/ Oris had the balls to let you say what you actually thought about the piece. #RESPECT
2/ You actually said what you thought about the piece (in a way that was hard on the issues, soft on the people).
3/ You included a very useful lesson regarding the economics of limited editions. (Those things had never occurred to me. I totally get it. Now I know.)
Thanks to you, and thanks to Oris. I’m actually MORE inclined - not less - to buy an Oris watch in the future.
Harry Joiner thank for watching Harry. I’m going to go into detail in another video around my relationship with Oris. Rolf, the CEO of Oris, doesn’t care what bloggers or press say about their watches. They are proud if what they do and doesn’t need validation from anyone. They are far more confident than the large majority of brands.
Agreed. It was very good in all ways.
Nice post
Harry Joiner Great comment Harry 👍
Harry Joiner - great comment & I can’t help but agree, the honesty of this video makes me a more likely customer, despite what consumerism tells us
I almost like it more now that it’s toned down. I like the contrast in color. I see what you’re saying but I’m loving the patina!
Same here.
Thinking about buying it for about 2 months now... we all know what that means...
I actually really like the patina and would want to see how it changes over time. The fact that different parts are ageing differently is how it's supposed to go. Way better than fake lume and the like. Wouldn't be my one and only watch, but would be a lot of fun to take a chance on this.
Exactly!
THANK YOU for doing this video. It is so hard to find decent photos, let alone press, of bronze cases after some patina. This has always put me off of them. It's a weird material where you're trying to picture what it's going to look like instead of taking it at face value like steel.
My Oris Big Crown was my first decent watch in the early 1990s and, although I've not worn it for over a decade, every time I see it, it brings a smile to my face - it still looks really good with its blue face and strap. Thanks for the NATO strap which I received last weeks - looks good on my Seamaster. Keep up the good work!
Surface finish differences is why its aging differently..
Brushed = oxidizes faster (case)
Machined = oxidizes slower (crown and bezel)
Oh right. That’s really interesting. Thanks so much. 👍🏻
No shit!?
I’m guessing there’s something about surface area making that phenomenon happen? I imagine brushing a surface increases the surface’s area quickly
@@pMattpful bronze is reactive and the tighter you can make the surface graining such as say polishing = harder for it to oxidize because nothing can get in to the tight surface structure. While brushing is open and slightly pouros..
Also: There are "rubbing" and "polishing" effects from clothes one wear. Bezel surfaces always gets more clothes rubbing that's why they are more shine.
Thanks for the honest review ! I find this watch absolutely gorgeous, even with this current uneven patina ! Cheers
Having owned a bronze CW C60 Trident for about two years, I've found that the patina varies greatly depending on where you live and other factors. When it was new, I wore it swimming in a pool to force a patina and was very unhappy with the dull finish that resulted. I researched and found a great many ways to force a patina, but none of them appealed to me. So I decided to keep it polished for the time being. Lo and behold, after a few months it got a beautiful patina just naturally. It is much mush better looking than the one you got and even the various forced patinas I saw in my research. That said, I live in Denver, CO, and the climate is very different here than most other places. I suggest before any bronze watch owner gives up, experiment. There is probably a way to get a patina that you love, as have I.
LOVE the red dial. Ah, and just when I thought I was set on the green variant. Great take on this model, and I really enjoy your outdoor chats. 100% my favorite watch channel.
Still wearing a Broze Mako “batman” from Zelos. The patina never got beyond a middle brown. I live in Dallas so it doesn’t see salt water air or anything crazy to give it color. I ended up using a craft store bronze brown to make it look like an old statue. Lit it much better that way. The exterior looks like Ancient Rome, Under the sapphire looks shinny and new. I love the contrast.
I agree with you on the strap but gotta say - I absolutely love the way that thing has patina’d and should only get better.
Hey just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the live stream yesterday even though I caught it late last night. Looking forward to watching this. Oris are my favorite
Michael Fierman thanks for watching the livestream. It was really good fun.
I think it looks gorgeous now. I’ve come close to buying this watch a handful of times.
This watch is excrement.
@@clegsmegson2627 You must be liking your own comments, because I'm not sure how anyone can call this watch excrement. If you don't like the bronze, buy it in steel. It's a great piece for the price.
@@rousseau327 I only wear Patek or AP. You stick to Oris or Seiko my friend.
Cleg Smegson then why do you watch this video???
@@clegsmegson2627 Lol, what a joke
I've got the 40mm blue/grey dial with silver case and absolutely love it. Interestingly I'd gone in to buy the black dial but so glad I changed my mind. It is absolutely stunning. My wife has the 36mm bronze with green dial. The bronze hasn't aged too much yet but that green dial with the bronze is just brilliant. Both get a lot of comments.
I've owned the Oris Carl Brashear Bronze for a couple of years and I understand what you mean about preferring the bronze case in it's 'new' more shiny state. I swim in the sea with mine and actually enjoy the change to a darker, patchy bronze. Mine has never turned green like a bronze Panerai would.
Whenever I get bored with the patina I make a fine paste with baking soda and water and brush gently with a VERY soft toothbrush. It never gets back to brand new condition, but takes on an amazing golden hue.
Thanks for yet another great video. The location is sublime!
I think the watch looks amazing! New and after 2 months. Very lovely timepiece
I sold my Tudor BBB...I needed another bronze in the collection so I purchased this for 1500usd...l’m pleased.
Thanks for the content.
Adrian, you have truly amped up your video style and it is greatly appreciated. The walks afield and talking watches makes the content extremely enjoyable.
Give the watch another six months of wear and the case patina will deepen even more to almost a milk chocolate brown. Will be interesting to see that with that deep red dial. Great follow-on review.
Love that watch. Green dial is my favorite. Love how it has gained patina over time. Also like the contrast between modern back and vintage front.
After watching many bronze oris videos, so happy you did one months after to show the patina and looking forward to seeing the video where you attempt to remove.
Love the honest review and also that you kept it for longer period. Not just an unboxing as in a: whoohoo... lookie here video. This is something that consumers encounter.
Thanks Adrian for your honest opinions, as a viewer I appriciate that a lot!👌🏻😉😍
Thanks a lot for watching buddy. 👍🏻
Thanks for doing this, knowing how the case is going to change and how quickly is very helpful. I think the red dial Oris has available for the steel version would look better with the bronze case to give it a more complementary contrast.
Terrific review! I have several bronze cases, and they do get "browner" over time. This one has WAY more to go. You can see a few spots on your case, and those will actually turn green after some time.
Adrian, great video. Probably one of the best watch channels on UA-cam. Very good perspective on the limited editions. That hadn't occurred to me. Cheers.
Great to see these reviews from after you’ve grown accustomed to the watch. This actually turned me on to a watch I had largely dismissed. The bronze patina doesn’t bother me (though I fully get why it would bother some people) and the brown face looks less odd out in natural light. Great and informative review! Now if only they could put that blue dial in a bronze case...
Had the same experience with my Oris Diver 65 Bico. Loved it in the beginning as a fun summer piece, but found the aggressive patina off-putting and will try flipping it.
Lovely landscapes. Great photography, lighting, sound. Entire production of your channel is very professional. I think we will all look back at the bronze cases and green, red, brown and odd color dial combos as a narrow style fad which will fall out of favor in a few years - that will be very very cheap to acquire.
I’m amazed at the variation of the different levels of patina on the various parts. I have the Diver 65 and have not observed much patina at all on the bezel. I chalked that up to the fact that I turn it quite a bit, but it seems the bezels may be made out of a different bronze.
You have always made great videos, and you continue to do so! I always love your choices of music and your outdoor locations are just incredible! Thank you for always bringing me joy through our shared hobby! Cheers Adrain!
Adrian I just got myself a new 4K oled and I must say your content looks absolutely stunning on it.
Great video 👍
That’s awesome. I’m really glad it turns out ok on a big TV. 👍🏻
Given the video a 👍 even though I was preparing to be annoyed from the outset due to number of negative comments the watch has been generating on social media. Can't argue with your opinions given that they are just that, opinions. I'm at exactly the same point in the patina journey as you right now. For me, the appeal of the watch is the changing nature of that case. Yes, I too preferred the watch when brand new, but I'm also loving not worrying about the condition of the case as time goes by and seeing something different in the case every week as it evolves. If the patina begins to annoy me, I'll just restore to original condition. Bronze cleaning is an easy diy job. Each to their own, but regardless of where this piece ranks in my collection, it's the most interactive experience I've had with a watch in ages. For me, that makes it worth the money, time and effort.
Glad you’re getting on with your piece. And you’re 100% right, what we are talking about here is just personal opinion. 👍🏻
I have two Bronze cased watches from H2O watch, one is solid Bronze, Blue Dial, Stainless steel exhibition back. The other is in Mokume Gane, a bronze and steel striation! Yes, bright and shiny with that gold look in the beginning. Over time they patinaed very nicely, each one takes on its own look. Making it different from someone else's bronzed case. It gives it a charm of its own! By the way, it did look awesome in steel with the blue dial!
Thank You for the video and review!
Recently bought an Oris diver 65 after watching another of your videos. Fantastic watches !
Congrats mate. The divers65 is an awesome range. My favourite Oris range for sure. 👍🏻
Really love Oris big pointer date bronze. Owned the green dial version & loving it!!!!!
Not been here for a while, really like what you’re doing! But man, that watch is getting incredibly beautiful:-)
Loved the honesty, Subscribed.
Good to hear about your experience, I have the green dialed limited edition version. What I have found is that once it gets enough patina only the parts that get rubbed a lot stay somewhat shiny.
It reminds me of bronze saddle fixtures and I enjoy it for that, I do believe that the green dial works better with the colour patina that develops.
If I could come up with some images with my own camera (also a Fuji fan) would you be interested in checking them out?
I agree with the thoughts on the strap though... Substantial but shabby.
"until I'm rich enough..." there's the difference in mindset and attitude with most people, congrats Adrien. No limits.
Same issue with a bronze and brown face watch of mine. Now I use wipes to maintain that poor man’s gold look. Thanks for the insightful material.
What sort of wipes do you use?
Bark and Jack. Silver polish disposable wipes, similar to Cape Cod but less harsh.
Nice review! I have a Oris Bico and am with you on the look of bronze. Some days it's meh but other days it's wow.
Drop it in vinegar for a couple of minutes to remove patina. Brush with toothbrush afterwards. Fizzy drink and citrus is gentler than vinegar but takes longer.
I have the green dial bronze and love it. You know what you are going into when you get a bronze case.
Great pics and content, thank you! I think this has made my list.
I love the patina on the crown already. I bet after 5 or so years with more wear, tear and patina on a decent well weathered leather strap this watch would look amazing. Personally I’d like the rotor not to be red, but bronze, it’d be so cool 👍
I’ve got the bronze case green dial. After about 10 months, patina looks very similar, so it may not advance much further. Normal wear will always rub parts of the case/bezel making them shinier. But, if bronze isn’t for you, ORIS has lots of other stuff.
I also have the green dial, the contract with the bronze is superb!
I like the darkening of the patina. I don’t have much expertise with bronze watch cases, but I do know that bronze boat fixtures can either be cleaned or left with the protective patina. It’s another case of personal preference. Some boat owners prefer the shiny, clean maintained look- others prefer the patina.
Thank you Adrian, I would have never considered a bronze watch until this video. I know that you said you are not a big fan but I got interested and pulled the trigger. Can’t wait to see it aging. So my conclusion: watch companies should not be too afraid about an honest personal opinion. You made this review and I got enthusiastic about buying a bronze watch. Because we are all different any honest review is good for us watch people. Again - thank you !
love the new natural touch of the videos. Can't wait to make some holiday there!
While I love the "new! bronze look, i really don't like when it gets old - i am kind of a "new-look" watch guy but i hear that a lot of people like it when the watch has its "character"
Thanks so much for watching Kai. 👍🏻
I love my CW Trident C60 Bronze.. its aging with me... its a unique experience
Hey Adrian. First of all, you’re the man. And I love your videos. I just got married over this past weekend on a yacht in Clearwater beach, FL. One of my biggest and most difficult choices was which watch to wear. I decided on the seiko presage cocktail (blue dial variant) which my wife got me as a Christmas present. I thought an interesting video idea would be something involving what watch to wear for a wedding. Like a “top 5” or something. Just throwing it out there for you. Hope all is well and keep up the fantastic work. Cheers!
I think bronze works for very specific watch designs... the roped bezel compliments the bronze case, along with the brown dial. This is a great example of a bronze style watch as it speaks to the era, where other brands have used bronze but for a variation of one of their stainless cases. Hope I made sense... was late when writing this.
Crazy how much different the case looks from the first video would have to see in person new and aged to make a decision for myself if I would like having one however great content Adrian enjoy both videos.
Lemon Juice for patina removal.
I own bronze diver 65 and I can say that patina looks better once it matures to an even dark tone, yours is going through a patchy phase where it’s not uniform. It does get better. Also I notice that parts that come into more contact with skin patina faster which may explain why your bezel is still shiny.
Have had mine for over a year now. Its a very versatile watch which can be worn both casually and also looks great with formal attire, loving the patina on this piece. If anyone would be kind enough to let me know if I had to clean the Patina what would be a better alternative rather then using lemon juice?
I really enjoyed this video and I also prefer and love the blue version
This video is so cinematic and your location is beautiful. You are really upping the quality of your video and editing (which was already excellent). I actually like the patina better than the original and prefer the colour of this dial over the stainless. That is what is cool about watch collecting...in showing what you don't like about bronze has made me think maybe I would like one. Thank you for another fantastic video Adrian :)
Thanks so much for watching Jeffrey and I’m so glad you feel the quality is improving. 👍🏻
My doctor has a very aged dive watch in Bronze. Bronze does seem to be better suited for a diver. Excellent photography.
Agree with everything that is said in this review about the watch and find myself wanting one very much.
An enjoyable video ,in a wild setting.It looks like a decent watch.The bronze issue is quite devisive.It will be interesting to see how the patina develops.Nice watch strap.
I’m digging the patina! Gives off a great vintage vibe. I think a dark brown suede strap would look better, but with an added simple stitch detail similar to your featured B&J strap. Or dark brown horween chromexcel! Too bad you can’t hang on to this piece for 6 months to see how it continues to develop.
I bought the stainless steel version with a blue dial as a daily wear to mix with my other watches. The first thing to say is it's all good. Feels good, light and comfy and of course it keeps good time. The serious note to make is these are not holding any value so you could get one like I did for less than half price, second hand, with only a few months wear on it. It's a good watch and I'm very pleased so far. I do like the bronze version but in my local dealer they only had a couple which sold very quickly. I also swapped the strap for a Watch Gecko Winchester brown leather, which is very soft and supple and at just £20 is a bargain.
Damn the color grade of the video is top notch! Great job Adrien.
Funny how different the tastes are especially when it comes to bronze cases. I like the patina so much that i actually force it.
The issues is, that most of the bronze watches are designed (dial, hand, case back) to look good in the shiny new state without considering any patina. That’s understandable because that’s the condition the manufacturer has to sell it. For me the biggest upside of a bronze watch is that I get an uneven and therefor unique patina. Than it becomes your personal watch.
I really like the bronze patina look. Good video.
Aggghhhhh!!!!! Mate you are killing me!
I just watched a video from 2018 about the big crown you did, absolute winner and I am won over...... Now this?
This bronze model is FIRE! I'm sold on Oris anyway...... Killing me mate!
Shame you aren't feeling it, really suits your style too👍
It will probably get even darker... You'd expect some flecks of green too at some stage. Wonder how the resale will be in the future for these models on the Used market.
I think it looks better now. The patina looks warm and a much nicer than the bronze Tudor watches.
Thanks for the video.
You might already know this, but to get rid of the patina(most of it) you can cover your watch in lime/citrus juice for 10 min, then clean it with a soft brush 👍 i do it on mine every once in a while.
The bezel has held the shine better than the case because it is the highest part of the watch and gets polished by your cuff, the crown also gets a polish when the movement of the back of your wrist rubs against it.
I love the way this watch looks..
Lovely video! Really liking that patina but yes, it will be better once the rest does the same
On special or limited edition watches: The Oris ones I've seen are available (not too limited). They don't cost a ton extra, and my understanding is the extra they do charge goes to charity. Done this way it's a little fun and style choice for the consumer.
I love it because it is different. One does not see that type of look very often. If one was upset with the oxidation, I suppose a polishing cloth could fix that?
I really like that patina. Different strokes, guess. It has a nice red tint. My bronze Tudor has a pvd caseback to match the bronze case
Hmm, you're right, there's something that definitely looks off to me. I'm not sure if it's the patina on the bronze case or the dial contrasting with the black strap. I would like to see it on the original strap with the patina and whether that makes it look better. I think you've just convinced me that I don't want a bronze watch after all lol ...
I agree with you - the original condition of the case was gorgeous, reminded me of a red gold you'd see on an Omega or something.
I love the presentation style, production quality. Very nice video. Wonderful setting. I'd like to see that model fully patina'd. Appreciate your forthright opinion and your wife's! I like the original shiny too, BUT in the long haul, it would be a daily driver for me and banging the bronze around and aging it...would make it mine. You are correct about the strap choice. I don't care about the back. Oris doesn't just have LTD Ed. watches, their normal variety is GREAT fun. I have a black dial bronze bezel 65. Love it.
Thank you for that review. I really like the look fresh out of factory. It looks like rose gold and in combination with the red or green dial, which I prefer, it really feels like the perfect fall/winter watch. But... I wondered what it would look like when it patinas. I really like the overall design of it and it had a bit of a grail watch status for me, but now I’d rather go with a stainless steel case...
Yeah I think the steel versions are safer. 👍🏻
Thanks for the review. I also like this line of watches. What do you think of the ox blood dialed version?
Cementing yourself as a top watch reviewer great videos mate love watching 👍🏻
Finally got a chance to check out most of the Big Crown Pointer Date lineup. The bronze case didn't do it for me all shiny and I don't blame you for not liking the patina, it seems like a watch you'd either love to see develop patina or you should pass on it. For me, it was the red dial that popped the most. Interesting watch for sure, lots of character!
Great video. I have no bronze in my collection. I was never quite sure if it was for me or not. After this vid, I'm leaning towards staying away. You're right. A brushed caseback would have been better. Too much difference between shiny SS and weathered bronze.
I was recently pondering over the idea of getting my hands on a bronze diver from a microbrand. It would be my first bronze watch.
After watching your review and looking at more pictures of bronze pieces, I now know I don't actually like the patina myself. It can really look nasty and I read it can stain your skin and clothes. So I definitely won't be getting one.
I didn't know about the reason behind all these limited editions, thanks for sharing your insight.
Been watching your videos for sometime, however, I came about this accidently while I was research about Bronze watches. Love this format, very close to the Pelagos blue that I've watched before. Good job and keep those reviews coming. On a side note, I was thinking about getting the new IWC pilot chronograph in Bronze, just worried how does it look over time.
Great video, and I agree. I sold my bronze. The full patina was nice, but not my style. There are too many other watches out there for me to settle. Great video and I like the landscape video. Cheers
Great video, nice review, good jokes. My cup of coffee moment with this video was just satisfying. Anyways cheers
usually i dont like watches as big as these and im more in the "minimalistic" type of watches got a 7010T gs rn and this oris looks wonderful
A little bit of never dull will bring that back to new.
It’s a particular watch and I like that about it. It’s nice to see brands doing things different. If AP didn’t do that we wouldn’t have the Royal Oak and all the watches inspired by that iconic Genta design. This watch fits a certain style and personality and I like that. Sadly, it’s not a watch I would buy but I may change my view if I ever tried it on and spent some time with it.
I want the green one... I have the white dial Hunter Team 38mm with diamonds. I absolutely love it!
it's just that the areas where the case rubs on things more are more polished I believe (bezel with fabric and crown with fabric and fingers).. i may be wrong
That steel case/blue dial is frikkin' sweet...
Must be different in person, because it looks amazing to me.
Please definitely do that video on how best to clean up bronze watches! My Halios needs attention, as unfortunately I now feel the same about patina! 😣
Great vid as always
Glad I’m not alone on the patina front. I will do a video on how to clean the case. 👍🏻
@@BarkandJack Saying that, mine is currently being fumed by vinegar to see how horrible I can get it before your video is dropped!! If your advice fails, I'll see you at the London Watch Show and make you wear it all day! 😉
For me the patina is the charm - always changing and looks awesome. I agree the strap needs to go! Nice video
To remove the patena, do a q-tip in a mild clear vinegar and gently rub it on the patenaed surfaces. Try to avoid excess fluid around seal areas, i.e., the chrystal and the crown. Vinegar is a mild acid and over time could accelerate seal deterioration.
Nice video, thanks.
Why do you have to remove the patina? Seems daft to lend a bronze watch and expect it to be returned ‘cleaned’ 😃
I like the watch. Same for the 80th anniversary one with the green dial. The easiest way to remove the patina is to dissolve a pill of Kukident (bite cleaner) in a small glass and let rest the watch in it for a day...
Should I go for this or the new oris bronze.
What would be your thoughts on a steel case with bronze bezel and bronze crown? A la diver 65 bronze bezel.