Hey guys! I had a video somewhat like this uploaded a while ago, but it was removed after uplaod for copyright content (due to Ep IX footage). I've re-done it, with new information and better footage (and my new mic). Thanks for watching, hope that's okay!
Shows how the sequel trilogy, as much as I liked it, was just wasted potential due to no overarching narrative planned because it seemed Disney said "Let's release TFA and then we'll just wing it from there"
"We see everything except the Starhawk" The starhawk seems to be mostly forgotten in canon. It took 2 years from its first mention to us even seeing what it looked like, and it was in a FFG tabletop. They had this cool looking ship for the new republic and it has never appeared on screen. A shame really.
For that they needed to show the new republic which got destroyed in less than one day somehow and conviniently the first order also took over in less than one day somehow , also what happend to the new relpublic its not like a galactic government collapses in less than one day even when the capital is destroyed.
*Giant space battle* Starhawk still isn't seen, despite it finally having been given a canonical appearance. I would have liked to see the Starhawk style of design replace the Mon Cal design for New Republic ships. Would have made them a lot more visually distinct because, to be honest, the MC-X capital ships appear very similar across all the films. They kind of just blur together after a while.
I just wished that they did not destroy the new republic in less than one day and actually showed a galactic war between the first order and the new republic like the clone wars.
They just went around it, when u see the storm it’s only surrounding a part of the planet. Rey, Kylo, and the first wave of rebels were just showing off for no reason
Could u image the devistation that would happen, if one the larger MC ship's nava computer was wrong. All those ships are so close together, one them big bois is off that would be some massive damage
@Ryan DeGrave "Let me make fun of someone's spelling on the internet to make myself feel better" Dude. Get off your high horse. I'm literally autistic and I could figure out what they were trying to say. And what if they're not a native english speaker? It's a hard language to learn.
@@VonJay he's just a tier A bullshiter, just like his movies, he throws action and shit and impressionable people thing he's a great director because of that, but if you turn your brain on and see beyond that, you can see his shallow writing and dumb ideas.
Oderol lol wow. I just don't understand how thinks that a mystery box, or creating mystery for the sake of mystery, or, mystery without substance is a good idea. I really don't know how he gets to pen a script with the available plethora of great writing talent out there. And people green light his ideas
Palpatine's dead!...No he's not! Chewie's dead!...No he's not! Threepio's dead!...No he's not! Rey's dead!...No she's not! Kylo's dead!...No he's not!...Now he is! Luke, Han and Leia have definitely carked it though. And Palpatine and Snoke could still turn up again.
Disney: "Okay JJ, we need a big Avengers moment to really finish this off. I don't care how you do it, but people love that shit so you better put it in."
Doctor strange had an almost endless number of five year time loops to put that together though. That was the easy part ironically, it was getting to that one in 14 million that was tough.
I mean those people could have ranged from pirates, bounty hunters, mercenaries, galactic civil war vets, privateers, militas, civilian defense forces or those who the First Order promised to protect but were lied to and screwed over by them etc.
I was gonna say "The writer's ass" but it seemed too easy a joke. It *is* , though, a little jarring for what feels like an incredibly small-scale compressed narrative to have a galaxy-scale fleet to just show up suddenly.
It is not a small scale narrative. It is implied that a full blown military campaign and invasion of the galaxy is underwent by the First Order. We only see a tiny fraction of the conflict trough the Ressistance's eyes. It only makes sense when the *entire war* gets wrapped up for 3rd parties to be involved. Because 3rd parties were involved From the START. (New Republic Remanants, Independent Star Systems, probably like Korelia, Manadalore, Naboo etc) It's just that the movies do a shit job at explaining that as they actively avoid lorebuilding..
@@michaelstodovski2219 yepppp this here, the movies have spent so much time on weird backwater planets that no one cares about that you forget that there are entire fleet producing worlds out there
@@michaelstodovski2219 >actively avoid lorebuilding Yeah, these movies tried to be what they could not: a new OT for a new age. What they forgot is that there is one key difference from the OT - the context has changed. The OT had the benefit of being a new concept in Lucas's head to incorporate classical literature of East, West, and some of his own kookyness; it had no rules to adhere to and no franchise to protect. What I HATE about the DT is that they retcon, silence, and sidestep everything they can, because they don't give a DAMN about the franchise (and in Rian's case they work to destroy the franchise they have been assigned to). Actively avoid lorebuilding? More like give it a restraining order and divorce papers.
Besides the writer's backside, I just figured that Lando had already gotten everyone ready during the year leading up to this point, but told them to lay low till he gave the signal. Considering his golden tongue and his circle of friends, it's even possible that he had found out Papa Palpatine was alive and was working towards this goal since the F.O. reared its head. Let Ben lead him to Exogol, and, when Sheev shows his hand, Lando was in a position to call his bluff. "Alright, we got 'im! Here's the coordinates, and... Uh... Apparently the best path to get there. It's really dangerous, but there's a small 4,500 cubic kilometer area where the lane ends with JUST enough room. A bottleneck, and we're the bottle stopper. I'm uploading the coordinates now... It's going to be tight, so be careful. And may The Force be with us all."
After the last jedi I came up with the perfect way for the next movie to start. It would be a long shot of a fleet hiding in a nebula or something. As the camera goes through the fleet you would see both old and new ships. These ships would not be pristine, there would be obvious battle damage, mismatched haul sections, and weapons to indicate hasty repairs. You would see a moncal cruiser, but as the camera moved over it you would see that it's been practically blown in 1/2, and is in the process of being scrapped for parts. Weapons and haul plates being cut off to be used for repairing other ships. We would see a Starhawk and the camera would go inside and though the halls where we would see the people who are just as tired and battered as their ships. The scene would end on the bridge with Lando where we would learn that as the first order blitz was sweeping through the galaxy he guided as many ships as he could to relative safety using his knowledge of ancient smuggling routes.
@@MWBalls so let me get this straight. The first order who at this point basically occupied the entire galaxy, couldn't blockade their planets? Also in the movie the resistance forces had to fly through the weird red space nebula to get to exegul even though they have reys coordinates. How the actual fucm does mando know exactly where to jump in without ever going there and why didn't the resistance do the same thing when Rey was already there?
@@squeakersquad3339 all hyperspace routes were blocked, poe said. Why they managed to leave their respective planet I don't know. But I do know that they were all following Rey's path through the nebula and so managed to get through it (basically one by one I guess?)
The single biggest problem with assembling the Resistance fleet is simply the timeframe involved. The movie takes place over the time span of less than 24 hours. 16 hours is mentioned specifically in the film at one point as the time before the Emperor's new fleet will be "ready" for deployment. Exogol is located in a remote, difficult to reach area of the Unknown Regions of the galaxy. How was the Resistance fleet able to mobilize and travel to Exogol when they didn't even know where they were going less than a day earlier? Why wasn't the First Order squashing attempts at Resistance mobilization? The whole scene looks cool, but doesn't make a lick of sense when even a smidgen of brainpower is applied...
Exactly! Did you see how tight those spaces were?!? Some Disney absurdity alright. Not to mention that the field or nebula or whatever-it-is only covers a small fraction of the space around the planet. Why couldn’t any ships just fly around it?
@@Unknown-hb3id yep and another thing is the fact alone of how the entire Galaxy/Allied Fleet jumped into hyperspace around the same time and not manage to hit each other when they dropped out of it is something I'll always question no doubt.
The only answer would be that there were 10x more ships than shown, as only 10% could make it thru. But then that makes the size of the fleet even more questionable, as that means 160k ships answered the call...
@@imperialspecialforce5769 well to be fair Leia's reputation was still ruined due to the fact one rival of hers spilled the tea that she was the daughter of Darth Vader and probably some planets were still afraid to rise up against the FO.
@Ryan DeGrave Bro are you sure you have a brain?. Lmao 🤣🤣😭.. my 11 year old brother A "CHILD" could realize how bad it was and how filled it was with plot holes.
@Ryan DeGrave I have nothing to say other than this, you probably shouldn't be insulting other people's ability to understand "simple" things when you've just displayed an inability to understand a coherent, simple, and most importantly, English sentence.
Speaking of the Galaxy Fleet, a few of my friends have discovered that in one of the shots during the battle after the fleet appears, you can find Mandalorian Fang Fighters, but there is not a single one of the bigger Mando ships (the ones that act like dropships for Mandalorians in the Clone Wars)
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The whole canon explaination for the post galactic civil war structure/decisions is pretty stupid for several reasons. In canon they explained that the New Republic didn't really care about left over fleets because the Remnants Leadership were more worried about survival and themselves (not unifying) than trying to recapture control of the Galaxy. I think story wise it would have be much smarter to have the remnants be what the rebels were to the Galactic Empire. They would be doing hit and run tactics and slowly building an army to match the New Republic, then we could have a big final battle where the outcome wouldn't be known until it happens. I am okay with the New Republic trying to demilitarize everything after the last two wars. But it doesn't make sense that individual planets wouldn't raise their own defenses since their new central government couldn't take care of everything.
Alphabet Squadron does a great job of showing this. Most of the Imperial Supply chain and communications grid was shattered within two or three months of Endor, leaving even top TIE aces without the enough spare parts to keep their ships in working order and whole star destroyers scrapped for spare parts. A lot that seems to come more from civilian uprisings than any direct military action, which certainly fits the central themes of the franchise. EDIT: following that a lot of admirals tried to fortify whatever refinery world's they could get while the Rebellion tried to force a large scale surrender, which they presumably got eventually. At the end of the day an army can only function with the support of the civilian population.
I think a lot of the heavy ships are from either planetary defense fleets. The New Republic doctrine was to encourage such things, after all. I think a lot of the ships ended up surrendering to the initial First Order blitzkrieg like their planetary governments, but the FO didn't have the time or manpower to actually disarm or dismantle them. So they ended up like the French navy after France fell to the Germans in WWII - parked in storage docking, fully armed and crewed but ordered to sit the war out. In WWII those ships were eventually scuttled by their crews after Germany attempted to seize them, but in TROS they decided (or received orders from their government) to fight.
TROS just makes no sense, the first order supposedly already controlled the galaxy. And Palpatine wanted to re-take it over and destroy everything...for what?
Wesley Marsh and don't forget that the first order are apparently incompetent enough now to allow the people they oppress to possess arms... Seems like if they had removed all weapons and armed ships they could find, this scene would have ended very differently.
So how the first orders controled all the galaxy in 2 weeks..when the CIS got a bloody 6 clone war yers to only control a quarter...also how control the galaxy when Firrst order lose his main base,their flag ship and half of the fleet ..?make no sense,,just imagine how to conquer the mandalorian planet with that...
@@FULANODETAL well honestly the first order was the empire. just without their death stars until starkiller. like really, there were tons of viable star destroyers that were still a huge threat (we see this directly in battlefront 2, i dont go out of my way looking for examples) and so the empire split into mercenary groups. eventually, the first order became a very noticeable group and suddenly had a sort of backing. and it wasnt 2 weeks, it was like 30ish years after the fall of the empire(maybe 10, i forget). so all in all, the first order pulled a miracle out of their ass. becuase of disney? maybe. im certain that there would be a world in george lucas' head where the first order forms.
@@FULANODETAL also the cis were heavily constricted by palpatine, the CIS easily wouldve wiped the floor against the republic. im pretty sure eck has detailed that somewhere, or atleast mentioned it. remember, the cis was just a way to get palpatine to get power, and once anakin killed all their leaders, bam, no mroe threats.
That still doesn't explain why no one came to aid the Resistance in The Last Jedi. Rather, that explains why there SHOULD have been forces to come aid! I appreciate the effort made here, but you're definitely putting more thought into it than they did.
The Republic: Demilitarizes after a major war, causing them to be unprepared for the Clone War The New Republic: Demilitarizes after winning a Galactic Civil War, Against the Empire, causing them to be unprepared for the First Order Threat. Lesson: Dont demilitarize
Hmm, perhaps it wasn't just Lando getting fleets. Perhaps the fleets he recruited tried to get help as well, causing a snowball effect. Some systems might not have been willing or able to fight, but those that did felt it a great enough cause to join, or simply had nothing left to lose.
I'd have liked to see a few Star Destroyers in that fleet. You'd think at least some former Imperials would have joined the New Republic once it took over. Maybe even some old Venators taken from mothball fleets.
I’m still sad the battle of exegol wasn’t longer I wish they did the call in like in the script where Poe is nearly crying from everyone who came it’d have been so cool to hear Zay, Shriv, Yeager and Kaz in the movie
JJ Abrams pitch meeting with the fans: JJ: hey, you guys remember Legends? Us: uh, yeah... JJ: great! Remember the Katana Fleet? Us: yeah, that was cool. JJ: I’m glad! Someone right that down! Us: wait- JJ: remember the black fleet crisis? Us: uh... JJ: I loved it! Clone Palpatine rules! Us: but how are you going to... JJ: don’t you guys love Eclipse Star Destroyers? Us: yeah, I guess. JJ: BOOM! They’re in there. Us: please stop JJ: Remember the civilian fleets that fought the Yuzhan Vong? Us: STOP IT JJ: SPACE HORSES! Us: WHYYYYYYY
Disney to JJ: We don't like Colin's script and that it's counter to the Disney's ethos so can you take over? JJ: OK so do I get to delay the release and what about some extra budget. Disney: No and no we need to improve our ROI on Luscsfilm after the Solo debacle. JJ: OK so I will rehash the plot of Ep VI but I need a big space fleet battle to do some fan service. Disney: OK but you don't have time or money to create new ships and we don't want to see a Death Star Mk IV or Star Killer Base Mk 2. How about using all the ships in the archive, cut and paste and add a big gun here and there. Much faster a cheaper, that is the Disney ethos (eg. HK Disneyland). JJ: OK KK whatever you say as long as my fee isn't cut.
Disney: "Oh and for bonus points left just rip off Endgame. People LOVE Endgame! This can be Star Wars Portals scene and then a few minutes later we can have Rey go "I am Iron Man" and win and die! But not really lol.
Also, let's kill off his entire yes-men gallery, despite never having seen a single person in the visual mess that was the gallery of supporters? Even the Anakin pod racing crowd was way more believable, and it was literally a copy and paste job. :/
The speed at organizing such a fleet is a bit much, but the size doesn't bother me. Just using a little common sense, considering it's a big galaxy with plenty of resources, I would think the individual planetary navies would always represent a significant numerical force. I imagine the important Core worlds like Kuat, Corellia, Alsakan, etc... would have larger fleets with Star Dreadnoughts.
The Resistance fleet was pulled right out of JJ's ass. Here's how Rian Johnson left things at the end of "The Last Jedi:" KAYDEL KO CONNIX: Our distress signal's been received at multiple points, but no response. LARMA D'ACY: They've heard us, but no one's coming. LEIA: We fought till the end. But the galaxy has lost all its hope. There's a difference between making it SEEM that there's no hope for the Rebels and outright SAYING there's no hope for the Rebels. Rian John farked up the trilogy beyond repair at this point. The "Resistance" has been reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon. There's no way for another writer to bring back the Rebels as a credible force without ignoring this scene completely.
honestly there should’ve been other resistance cells, kinda like what they did with the rebels show. and tbh the should’ve grouped up the ships based on faction/design (like all mon cala ships together)
5:49 - Is it wrong that I feel that would have been solid movie material right there? Imagining one lone republic taskforce, stuck on the other side of the galaxy, battling its way across multiple systems trying to get reform with other republic fleets and dealing with frightened galactic governments who either want to bend the knee to the Empire...or want something else in exchange?
That could easily have been a logical part of the trilogy we might have gotten, even as a scene or two... had the sequel trilogy give a d&#@ about story. :/
@@nichsa8984 The task force can cannibalize heavily damaged ships in their own ranks or scavenging it from destroyed or crippled enemy ships they encounter. Andromeda (the show) clearly showed a single ship trying to survive in a hostile environment with nothing but the current tech base at its disposal, as well as any tech from its original infrastructure left after after the civil war. Remember that a New Republic spread out over a Galactic scale would have had multiple task forces, multiple shipyards, multiple component manufacturing nodes set up for multiple production lines. Which is why destroying a handful of planets in the first movie in the sequel trilogy should have never had the impact that TLJ claimed it had. Whenever a regime is toppled, a new one practically rises up in its place overnight by second tier politicians who never got the change to surpass the original politicians in the senate (as seen in how easy Palpy managed to get rid of "troublesome elements" in the Senate, to be replaced by more compliant candidates). To say the New Republic just went belly up because there was a new "Death Star" makes no sense whatsoever. I get the paranoia and confusion aspect, but over the span off three movies spanning multiple years, it doesn't even seem as if there was ANY military action against the First Order. How did the New Republic ever survive against any major threat before the First Order, if taking out a couple of planets is all it took to be destroyed?? :/
Ryan DeGrave let me tell ya something, the movie was not that bad(meh), but not that good at all, but they just needed to put something good to pull many fans back to them, i was disappointed about the movie, the plot was fast pace barely taking a rest, and the space....... i mean air battle was was great at start, but when it came to the star destroyer they have conventional means to destroy the resurgent i mean they had b wings and y wings on stand by, why make a land assault on a star destroyer when they could dissable thru bombing, like why not bomb the tower or the star destroyer’s communications tower, despite many fan services, it wasn’t enough to save the movie, and the clusterfuck of ships in the air battle wasn’t even comparable to the battle of corusant or endor or scarif, it barely gave us any shot of the ships, instead darkish blue backround. So thats what i’m saying is it’s horrible, its the worst, not literally the worst the entire sequel trilogy is a fucked up garbage with all plots and stories thrown around and for disney to make more money, and also i once commented on star wars explained on a comment and everyone bashed and said that i was being unreasonable, and i think you are one of them, i am just saying cause even after a month i’m still angry about, i was left an awe across the movie, cause i don’t know what to say anymore.
@Ryan DeGrave lol so rey was palpatines endgame all along but ordered her to be killed several times throughout this trilogy....plot makes so much sense
@Ryan DeGrave when did @Snepganes say he didn’t understand the plot? He said he laughed with his friend at the scene. (And for good reason, the movie was shit)
Due to the fact that corrursont wasn’t destroyed the remains of the new republic gathered together.obviously because you can see the new republic symbol on many ships,not the resistance symbol with is the same type.
What we really need to flesh out the sequel trilogy is a tv series that follows a new republic battle group prior to the destruction of Hosnian Prime up through the battle of Exogol. It would be like Battlestar Galactica meets Rouge One.
tbh after the abysmal mess this trilogy was i feel it would just flop. hardly anyone is interested enough in this era that i doubt they'd even plan it. honestly id rather them move away completly from the sequels apart from like comics for the people who do like it. but major shows should go towards like the kenobi show, cassian andor, mando or maybe even a high republic show/film because the HR looks good and interesting. i get you want it fleshed out and all. but considering the plot is basically a reworked OT with rebels vs empire 2.0. just makes the whole thing uninteresting to start off with. like the resistance is just silly. why would the New republic that fought for years to bring down the empire just let a group of neo empire fascists just kidnap a bunch of children and do feck all. its like oh we beat hitler ok lets go home. no occupying germany, no denazification, no re-education programes. the hitler youth would be back up in days to bring about the next generation of extremist SS troops. all while the allies and soviets watched and thought its fineeeee. like any explanation to that complete lack of logic is most probably going to badly written and cobbled together, a-bit like the sequels themselves. like i said its not worth their time because i feel a majority of the fanbase just hate it.
sorry for long response but i feel strongly about it. dont get me wrong theres loads of good in the sequels. like rey, finn, etc. FO aesthetic and like the force dyad. but the rest doesn't make sense as its all just a reworked OT.
I don't know where the fleet came from, but maybe Lando got in touch with Game of Thrones s8 plot teleportation writer and just jumped huge ass armies across maps.
you should do a video on how the resistance fleet actually managed to get through the hyperspace barrier to exegol giving how small the gaps were when kylo was flying through it. Also a video on where the final order got the resources to build all those planet killing capital ships and why didnt the empire use a similar design instead of wasting resources on 2 massive death stars that do the same thing? theres some more ideas for you
Actually, had the SDs row facing the attacking fleet actually opened up their batteries when the relief fleet came out of hyperspace, that battle would have had a very difference outcome. The entire relief fleet literally dropped out of hyperspace on top of each other - there was no space to maneuver for them. These last 3 movies seem to have no concept of stategy or tactics in space battles. :/
"You ask that as if the Sequels made any sense at all" sounds slightly more natural, but otherwise the only actual issue with your sentence is the word 'would' (which others have already pointed out should be removed). If you wanted to still include the word 'question' you could say "you ask *that* question as if..."
Hey, Eck, I was just watching the deleted scenes from Return of the Jedi, and there was the one about Jerjerrod and how he did not want to blow up Endor with the Death Star II.
It's pretty obvious that the Resistance Fleet came from the same place as the Rebel Fleet in ROTJ or the Confederacy Fleet in ROTS. There were cells scattered across the galaxy and they finally came together at Exegol because it was the now or never moment of the resistance against the First Order.
@@SeaPhantom I hope to get all 3 soon. If only George met Timonthy Zahn in the early 80s. Book 1 film comes out in 1986, Book 2 film comes out in 1989, Book 3 comes out in 1992.
Figured many was those tired of being pushed around an feeling helpless &/or surviving Vets from the Galactic Civil War that cracked they neck, saw what was happening, and cocked they blasters after deciding enough was bout enough.
Presumably there are NGOs like pirates, mercenaries and stuff. What are copreations like at this time. Are they things like the trade federation about?
probably stuff like tech companies that happen to make weapons, possibly a starship company could sneak a gun or two into their private hangars, and idmagine, being pirates, all trading would be escorted. maybe not a capital ship escort, but easily a light fighter ring to atleast buy time for some reinforcements. the more i look at it , the more and more the number is feasible. the plot still isnt amazing, but its a bit better.
I think how so many ships came so fast is something akin to the twilight bark in 101 Dalmatians. Lando spend the word to everyone he could contact and they, in turn, spread the word to everyone within reach until the whole galaxy was made aware of what was up. That is the most logical way how the fleet came quickly.
"It's not a navy, it's just people" Yeah, lets go charge a fleet of battleships in a bunch of freighters, yachts and garbage barges and see what happens.
Hey guys! I had a video somewhat like this uploaded a while ago, but it was removed after uplaod for copyright content (due to Ep IX footage). I've re-done it, with new information and better footage (and my new mic). Thanks for watching, hope that's okay!
I asked this question on the super bowl rise of skywalker trailer live stream!
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Lando was apparently so suave and convincing that the entire galaxy came to his aide.
In like ten minutes!
To be fair, wouldn't you be convinced by Lando?
@@BoisegangGaming Vader wasn't. He altered the deal.
That, I can actually buy
I’d do anything for lando
The Battle of Crait
Leia: We need help!
The Galaxy: Lol no.
The Battle of Exegol
Lando: We need help!
The Galaxy: Say no more bro!
Leia: "AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!"
Lando:yes
As disney always says. Sexism and racism
@millenial knowledge what?
@@TheWarmachine375 The Galaxy: You were Vader's daughter! Remember, its why we booted you out of the government!
The plot convenience dimension, the writer’s nether regions.
Take your pick.
i was gonna comment this
sequel trilogy is a disgrace
Shows how the sequel trilogy, as much as I liked it, was just wasted potential due to no overarching narrative planned because it seemed Disney said "Let's release TFA and then we'll just wing it from there"
Beat me to it.
Jackie Tang You hit the nail on the head
I've seen fanfics handle this sequel trilogy better
Palpatine : I have an army
Resistance : We have bad writing
Palpatine's army also came from bad writing.
Lets be real here, the hole shitshow has bad writing, no need to argue who has thd worst
Supporting cast: we have plot armor.
Lead actress: I'm literally Space Goddess at this time. :/
I like this one the best so far. Well done, Karim.
I was just going to say that 😆7 lando just dipped over to 10000 systems and got a fleet while the battle was going on. Pfft
Thing I was wondering about that fleet, isnt it super dangerous to have all those ships so close to each other?
Yes, hit one and a could of debris will start a chain reaction .
Mustavo Gaia like in the Last Jedi
Yep, how all those 10,000 plus ships managed to not hit each other after dropping outta hyperspace is something we'll never know
Resistance bombers flashback
@@jackietang3789 because the plot thats why
"We see everything except the Starhawk"
The starhawk seems to be mostly forgotten in canon. It took 2 years from its first mention to us even seeing what it looked like, and it was in a FFG tabletop. They had this cool looking ship for the new republic and it has never appeared on screen. A shame really.
Or the K Wing, I also wanted that canonized
The pride of the Republic navy and no one cared about it. It's just like the anti-capital ship B-wing never getting to blow up capital ships.
For that they needed to show the new republic which got destroyed in less than one day somehow and conviniently the first order also took over in less than one day somehow , also what happend to the new relpublic its not like a galactic government collapses in less than one day even when the capital is destroyed.
@@udhavveersinghbhatia9524 and we thought the empire falling in a year was fast
@@jackietang3789 ugh, the K-Wing was written by somebody with a very different vision of Star Wars to mine. Nuclear missiles?
*Giant space battle*
Starhawk still isn't seen, despite it finally having been given a canonical appearance.
I would have liked to see the Starhawk style of design replace the Mon Cal design for New Republic ships. Would have made them a lot more visually distinct because, to be honest, the MC-X capital ships appear very similar across all the films. They kind of just blur together after a while.
The Starhawk looks too Halo-ish, looks like an Earth Tech ship. To me it doesn't quite have the Star Wars ship look
I just wished that they did not destroy the new republic in less than one day and actually showed a galactic war between the first order and the new republic like the clone wars.
Set course for the plot hole system
I need to see what else is there
In the end it doesn't matter what ships they used, because they didn't really show them fight anyway...
Yeah it not beimg in the movie is my biggest problem with TROS
I honestly think they just CTRL + V everything from different films.
Yeah
It is Disney. Of course they do
Finally someone who realized Disney is a problem
Disney used some sort of bot to do something like that
Fun fact, the guy that invented the ctrl c and ctrl v died earlier this year. He was in his 70s.
They just didn’t realize they were all on that Interdimensional Cable show “How did I get here?”
The better question is how it got through the weird meteor field
Exactly! And did you see how super tight it was? gee I wonder how they all got through it
hey step bro I'm stuck
My theory.
There were some ships who got stuck in the asteroid field and some were damaged or disabled when they arrived on the planet
They just went around it, when u see the storm it’s only surrounding a part of the planet. Rey, Kylo, and the first wave of rebels were just showing off for no reason
The Force
Could u image the devistation that would happen, if one the larger MC ship's nava computer was wrong. All those ships are so close together, one them big bois is off that would be some massive damage
"Sh*t, I missed a zero. Oh, well, what's the worst that could happen?"
*hundred ship pileup ensues*
*NASCAR style pileup commences*
What would happen if a seismic charge detonated in the middle. That would obliterate the fleet.
@Ryan DeGrave "Let me make fun of someone's spelling on the internet to make myself feel better"
Dude. Get off your high horse. I'm literally autistic and I could figure out what they were trying to say.
And what if they're not a native english speaker? It's a hard language to learn.
Ryan DeGrave don’t know what you are complaining about that was easy to comprehend
They came from the plot hole system.
Impossible. Perhaps the archives are too complete.
*In Thanos's voice* Impossible
@@jackietang3789 *in rey's voice* possible, thanks to the force
@@faltanato6375 oof
Is that also the system where the first order got the resources to build starkiller base in record time?
JJ Abrams' very unimaginative brain that's where
You ever hear him try to get a thought out. He's not incomprehensible but very hard to follow sometimes.
@@VonJay he's just a tier A bullshiter, just like his movies, he throws action and shit and impressionable people thing he's a great director because of that, but if you turn your brain on and see beyond that, you can see his shallow writing and dumb ideas.
Oderol lol wow. I just don't understand how thinks that a mystery box, or creating mystery for the sake of mystery, or, mystery without substance is a good idea. I really don't know how he gets to pen a script with the available plethora of great writing talent out there. And people green light his ideas
@@jorgeloredo100 he tries so hard to be like Spielberg but he's more like Michael bay and even that's pushing it!
Palpatine's dead!...No he's not!
Chewie's dead!...No he's not!
Threepio's dead!...No he's not!
Rey's dead!...No she's not!
Kylo's dead!...No he's not!...Now he is!
Luke, Han and Leia have definitely carked it though.
And Palpatine and Snoke could still turn up again.
I saw the poll and clicked on what the video is about and then it just popped in my notification. Lol. Love your content
Leia: We need help
Galaxy: no
Lando: We need help
Galaxy we are sending 16k ships
Why wasn't it 100k? :P
Go big... or go home. :P
_With 20k on the way_
Also we have a ship duplicater
Me: 16k ships? 🤔🤔 NO
Me: 1000k ships?😀😀 Yes
I liked that there was some N-1’s in that fleet
And Mandalorian Fang Fighters though they're kinda a blink and miss it moment
This scene was literally bootleg portal scene from avengers endgame.
The entire movie was just a bootleg avengers endgame.
@Judge Dredd Copying themselves is still copying.
Disney: "Okay JJ, we need a big Avengers moment to really finish this off. I don't care how you do it, but people love that shit so you better put it in."
@Judge Dredd Disney really be stealing ideas from themselves.
Doctor strange had an almost endless number of five year time loops to put that together though. That was the easy part ironically, it was getting to that one in 14 million that was tough.
Love your videos, especially battle of the dreadnoughts. That was amazing
"Where did they get all these fighter craft? They have no navy."
"It's not a navy, sir, it's just… people."
Lol, Disney...
I mean those people could have ranged from pirates, bounty hunters, mercenaries, galactic civil war vets, privateers, militas, civilian defense forces or those who the First Order promised to protect but were lied to and screwed over by them etc.
@@jackietang3789 ignore that because you're supposed to hate Disney. /s
"Thats not a fleet, thats just peoplekind"
I like how every small detail is where you guys say "HahA dIsNeY"
Haha Disney Star Wars bad so funny xd
I was gonna say "The writer's ass" but it seemed too easy a joke.
It *is* , though, a little jarring for what feels like an incredibly small-scale compressed narrative to have a galaxy-scale fleet to just show up suddenly.
It is not a small scale narrative.
It is implied that a full blown military campaign and invasion of the galaxy is underwent by the First Order. We only see a tiny fraction of the conflict trough the Ressistance's eyes.
It only makes sense when the *entire war* gets wrapped up for 3rd parties to be involved. Because 3rd parties were involved From the START. (New Republic Remanants, Independent Star Systems, probably like Korelia, Manadalore, Naboo etc)
It's just that the movies do a shit job at explaining that as they actively avoid lorebuilding..
@@michaelstodovski2219 yepppp this here, the movies have spent so much time on weird backwater planets that no one cares about that you forget that there are entire fleet producing worlds out there
@@michaelstodovski2219 >actively avoid lorebuilding
Yeah, these movies tried to be what they could not: a new OT for a new age. What they forgot is that there is one key difference from the OT - the context has changed. The OT had the benefit of being a new concept in Lucas's head to incorporate classical literature of East, West, and some of his own kookyness; it had no rules to adhere to and no franchise to protect. What I HATE about the DT is that they retcon, silence, and sidestep everything they can, because they don't give a DAMN about the franchise (and in Rian's case they work to destroy the franchise they have been assigned to).
Actively avoid lorebuilding? More like give it a restraining order and divorce papers.
I came here to give that exact reply. JJ's ass.
@@TedsNerdWorld literally the same thought
Besides the writer's backside, I just figured that Lando had already gotten everyone ready during the year leading up to this point, but told them to lay low till he gave the signal. Considering his golden tongue and his circle of friends, it's even possible that he had found out Papa Palpatine was alive and was working towards this goal since the F.O. reared its head. Let Ben lead him to Exogol, and, when Sheev shows his hand, Lando was in a position to call his bluff.
"Alright, we got 'im! Here's the coordinates, and... Uh... Apparently the best path to get there. It's really dangerous, but there's a small 4,500 cubic kilometer area where the lane ends with JUST enough room. A bottleneck, and we're the bottle stopper. I'm uploading the coordinates now... It's going to be tight, so be careful. And may The Force be with us all."
After the last jedi I came up with the perfect way for the next movie to start.
It would be a long shot of a fleet hiding in a nebula or something. As the camera goes through the fleet you would see both old and new ships. These ships would not be pristine, there would be obvious battle damage, mismatched haul sections, and weapons to indicate hasty repairs. You would see a moncal cruiser, but as the camera moved over it you would see that it's been practically blown in 1/2, and is in the process of being scrapped for parts. Weapons and haul plates being cut off to be used for repairing other ships.
We would see a Starhawk and the camera would go inside and though the halls where we would see the people who are just as tired and battered as their ships.
The scene would end on the bridge with Lando where we would learn that as the first order blitz was sweeping through the galaxy he guided as many ships as he could to relative safety using his knowledge of ancient smuggling routes.
If they could make it through the nebula then what was the point of the way finder?🤔
@@leofrail989 Because they had the pathway that Rey broadcast after following the Wayfinder.
@@MWBalls so let me get this straight. The first order who at this point basically occupied the entire galaxy, couldn't blockade their planets? Also in the movie the resistance forces had to fly through the weird red space nebula to get to exegul even though they have reys coordinates. How the actual fucm does mando know exactly where to jump in without ever going there and why didn't the resistance do the same thing when Rey was already there?
@@squeakersquad3339 all hyperspace routes were blocked, poe said. Why they managed to leave their respective planet I don't know. But I do know that they were all following Rey's path through the nebula and so managed to get through it (basically one by one I guess?)
Where did it come from?
"Aliens"
I mean you're technically correct.
Xenos
I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens.
The horrible world building in the sequel trilogy is pretty impressive.
The single biggest problem with assembling the Resistance fleet is simply the timeframe involved. The movie takes place over the time span of less than 24 hours. 16 hours is mentioned specifically in the film at one point as the time before the Emperor's new fleet will be "ready" for deployment. Exogol is located in a remote, difficult to reach area of the Unknown Regions of the galaxy. How was the Resistance fleet able to mobilize and travel to Exogol when they didn't even know where they were going less than a day earlier? Why wasn't the First Order squashing attempts at Resistance mobilization? The whole scene looks cool, but doesn't make a lick of sense when even a smidgen of brainpower is applied...
I was always happy to see the YT 2000 in that scene. The ship doesn't get enough love.
My question is how the heck did they all get through the meteor field like the Resistance had to do without even crashing into each other?
Exactly! Did you see how tight those spaces were?!? Some Disney absurdity alright. Not to mention that the field or nebula or whatever-it-is only covers a small fraction of the space around the planet. Why couldn’t any ships just fly around it?
@@Unknown-hb3id yep and another thing is the fact alone of how the entire Galaxy/Allied Fleet jumped into hyperspace around the same time and not manage to hit each other when they dropped out of it is something I'll always question no doubt.
The only answer would be that there were 10x more ships than shown, as only 10% could make it thru. But then that makes the size of the fleet even more questionable, as that means 160k ships answered the call...
@@doug4431 and yet no one responded when Leia called for help.
@@imperialspecialforce5769 well to be fair Leia's reputation was still ruined due to the fact one rival of hers spilled the tea that she was the daughter of Darth Vader and probably some planets were still afraid to rise up against the FO.
Short answer: bad writing.
Long answer: bad writing.
@Ryan DeGrave Bro are you sure you have a brain?. Lmao 🤣🤣😭.. my 11 year old brother A "CHILD" could realize how bad it was and how filled it was with plot holes.
@Ryan DeGrave Ok, Dunning Kruger
@Ryan DeGrave pls define "it makes perfect sense" cause its clear you have no cllue what a single word in that phrase actually means
@Ryan DeGrave elementary school called, they want their "No, you are" schoolyard retort back.
@Ryan DeGrave I have nothing to say other than this, you probably shouldn't be insulting other people's ability to understand "simple" things when you've just displayed an inability to understand a coherent, simple, and most importantly, English sentence.
Battlefront 2 when the daughter was told by Leia to go speak to her friends for help.
That would have made since, so that theory has to be thrown right out as it isn't the one Jar Jar Abrams would have chosen.
Yeah but that was during the period of TLJ so one year earlier than TROS
Speaking of the Galaxy Fleet, a few of my friends have discovered that in one of the shots during the battle after the fleet appears, you can find Mandalorian Fang Fighters, but there is not a single one of the bigger Mando ships (the ones that act like dropships for Mandalorians in the Clone Wars)
I’ve had to see the same “Battle of the dreadnoughts” video too many times to count at this point
Definitely got their render's worth. Especially, that specific sequence.
every time when i see the Viscount lose her engines and blew up by super laser...
i feel bad
Had to, or got to?
I am fond of your videos!! You are not trash talking about the license, you manage to find intelligent and relevant explanations which are very interesting!! I love your channel!! Big kiss from France
I still don’t get why the New Republic would demilitarize when millions of former Imperials were still around
The whole canon explaination for the post galactic civil war structure/decisions is pretty stupid for several reasons. In canon they explained that the New Republic didn't really care about left over fleets because the Remnants Leadership were more worried about survival and themselves (not unifying) than trying to recapture control of the Galaxy. I think story wise it would have be much smarter to have the remnants be what the rebels were to the Galactic Empire. They would be doing hit and run tactics and slowly building an army to match the New Republic, then we could have a big final battle where the outcome wouldn't be known until it happens.
I am okay with the New Republic trying to demilitarize everything after the last two wars. But it doesn't make sense that individual planets wouldn't raise their own defenses since their new central government couldn't take care of everything.
Alphabet Squadron does a great job of showing this. Most of the Imperial Supply chain and communications grid was shattered within two or three months of Endor, leaving even top TIE aces without the enough spare parts to keep their ships in working order and whole star destroyers scrapped for spare parts. A lot that seems to come more from civilian uprisings than any direct military action, which certainly fits the central themes of the franchise.
EDIT: following that a lot of admirals tried to fortify whatever refinery world's they could get while the Rebellion tried to force a large scale surrender, which they presumably got eventually. At the end of the day an army can only function with the support of the civilian population.
The FO had just 800,000 stormtroopers
I think a lot of the heavy ships are from either planetary defense fleets. The New Republic doctrine was to encourage such things, after all. I think a lot of the ships ended up surrendering to the initial First Order blitzkrieg like their planetary governments, but the FO didn't have the time or manpower to actually disarm or dismantle them. So they ended up like the French navy after France fell to the Germans in WWII - parked in storage docking, fully armed and crewed but ordered to sit the war out. In WWII those ships were eventually scuttled by their crews after Germany attempted to seize them, but in TROS they decided (or received orders from their government) to fight.
I miss Clone wars Era fleets I don’t like the unorganized fleet of the resistance
The fleet came from the JJ manouver: to cover a plot hole with a bigger plot hole.
Was the Holdo maneuver involved? :P
TROS just makes no sense, the first order supposedly already controlled the galaxy. And Palpatine wanted to re-take it over and destroy everything...for what?
Wesley Marsh and don't forget that the first order are apparently incompetent enough now to allow the people they oppress to possess arms... Seems like if they had removed all weapons and armed ships they could find, this scene would have ended very differently.
So how the first orders controled all the galaxy in 2 weeks..when the CIS got a bloody 6 clone war yers to only control a quarter...also how control the galaxy when Firrst order lose his main base,their flag ship and half of the fleet ..?make no sense,,just imagine how to conquer the mandalorian planet with that...
@@FULANODETAL well honestly the first order was the empire. just without their death stars until starkiller. like really, there were tons of viable star destroyers that were still a huge threat (we see this directly in battlefront 2, i dont go out of my way looking for examples) and so the empire split into mercenary groups. eventually, the first order became a very noticeable group and suddenly had a sort of backing. and it wasnt 2 weeks, it was like 30ish years after the fall of the empire(maybe 10, i forget). so all in all, the first order pulled a miracle out of their ass. becuase of disney? maybe. im certain that there would be a world in george lucas' head where the first order forms.
@@FULANODETAL also the cis were heavily constricted by palpatine, the CIS easily wouldve wiped the floor against the republic. im pretty sure eck has detailed that somewhere, or atleast mentioned it. remember, the cis was just a way to get palpatine to get power, and once anakin killed all their leaders, bam, no mroe threats.
That still doesn't explain why no one came to aid the Resistance in The Last Jedi. Rather, that explains why there SHOULD have been forces to come aid! I appreciate the effort made here, but you're definitely putting more thought into it than they did.
The order didn't have a large fleet of planet killers in the last jedi
Getting those ships together would be great for a few comics. That many ships could be good for a LOT of comics :)
but could you imagine the blatant and copious amount of fan-art plagiarism. Eck would have an aneurysm!
I love how eck asks us what to post. I love and support you tubers who make what the fans want❤️
It was because Disney can't be competent enough to keep a consistent director for their trilogy
Or just an outline, really. Same with most series - different directors but under a general plan.
Or plan an overarching narrative
@@Unknown-hb3id agreed and this is coming from someone who despite all it's bullshit liked the ST
Ooga booga Disney bad.
Declan Gallagher True. They are pretty bad.
The Republic: Demilitarizes after a major war, causing them to be unprepared for the Clone War
The New Republic: Demilitarizes after winning a Galactic Civil War, Against the Empire, causing them to be unprepared for the First Order Threat.
Lesson: Dont demilitarize
And planets should militarize more than they do.
Also the New Republic: Thinks the First Order is just nothing more than a joke until it was too late
Sooo...in a nutshell you're saying that the fleet was mustered around Sullust?
Makes sense to me.
Short answer: Plot
Long answer: Also plot
From the empty space in plot armor, of course.
@Ryan DeGrave yeah, the problem is the plot is absolutely shit
That outro was honestly one of the best parts of my day thank you!
The Imperials self-destructed out of the sheer stupidity of the situation.
Hmm, perhaps it wasn't just Lando getting fleets. Perhaps the fleets he recruited tried to get help as well, causing a snowball effect. Some systems might not have been willing or able to fight, but those that did felt it a great enough cause to join, or simply had nothing left to lose.
still wouldn't account for the time necessary to get ready and then GET there, hyperspace travel is NOT instantaneous
Well. It came from JJs mystery box. 🤷♀️
"We see everything here except a Starhawk"
Why you gotta hit me so hard Eck 😭😭😭
I mean it *IS* J.J. Abrams, giant oversized fleets are kind of his thing.
Maybe he is compensating for something very small
@@talhahtaco2035 The part of the brain where creativity is located? ;-)
Bit on the small side for a government of millions of worlds across the galaxy
I'd have liked to see a few Star Destroyers in that fleet. You'd think at least some former Imperials would have joined the New Republic once it took over. Maybe even some old Venators taken from mothball fleets.
The First Order's uniforms hats look like something from Looney Tunes or Dr. Seuss.
I’m still sad the battle of exegol wasn’t longer I wish they did the call in like in the script where Poe is nearly crying from everyone who came it’d have been so cool to hear Zay, Shriv, Yeager and Kaz in the movie
Lando knew how to round up support better than Leia.
He went straight to the galactic Midwest and rounded up all of the space Libertarians
JJ Abrams pitch meeting with the fans:
JJ: hey, you guys remember Legends?
Us: uh, yeah...
JJ: great! Remember the Katana Fleet?
Us: yeah, that was cool.
JJ: I’m glad! Someone right that down!
Us: wait-
JJ: remember the black fleet crisis?
Us: uh...
JJ: I loved it! Clone Palpatine rules!
Us: but how are you going to...
JJ: don’t you guys love Eclipse Star Destroyers?
Us: yeah, I guess.
JJ: BOOM! They’re in there.
Us: please stop
JJ: Remember the civilian fleets that fought the Yuzhan Vong?
Us: STOP IT
JJ: SPACE HORSES!
Us: WHYYYYYYY
The sequel trilogy had an unhealthy obsession with space horses. Just putting it out there? :P
And mostly everyone except orphan Rey got to use one. That's downright CRIMINAL! ;)
Disney to JJ: We don't like Colin's script and that it's counter to the Disney's ethos so can you take over?
JJ: OK so do I get to delay the release and what about some extra budget.
Disney: No and no we need to improve our ROI on Luscsfilm after the Solo debacle.
JJ: OK so I will rehash the plot of Ep VI but I need a big space fleet battle to do some fan service.
Disney: OK but you don't have time or money to create new ships and we don't want to see a Death Star Mk IV or Star Killer Base Mk 2. How about using all the ships in the archive, cut and paste and add a big gun here and there. Much faster a cheaper, that is the Disney ethos (eg. HK Disneyland).
JJ: OK KK whatever you say as long as my fee isn't cut.
Disney: "Oh and for bonus points left just rip off Endgame. People LOVE Endgame! This can be Star Wars Portals scene and then a few minutes later we can have Rey go "I am Iron Man" and win and die! But not really lol.
@@Stingra87 And let's just kill Palpy in more or less the same way we did originally - vaporize him while he's Force Lightening. :/
Also, let's kill off his entire yes-men gallery, despite never having seen a single person in the visual mess that was the gallery of supporters? Even the Anakin pod racing crowd was way more believable, and it was literally a copy and paste job. :/
I believe the talks had to be similar to what the original commentator wrote. I mean JJ himself and others said they had so little time for this.
The speed at organizing such a fleet is a bit much, but the size doesn't bother me. Just using a little common sense, considering it's a big galaxy with plenty of resources, I would think the individual planetary navies would always represent a significant numerical force. I imagine the important Core worlds like Kuat, Corellia, Alsakan, etc... would have larger fleets with Star Dreadnoughts.
“Poe”
“On your left”
I believe that the fleet is composed of planetary defense fleets or other rebel cell ships
You could imagine it was a kind of "spread the word sort of scenario" where people who agreed to fight also tried to rally others
At 2:12 i think what i see is 2 separatist ships (i forgot the name) and also what i think is the ghost, the ship used in the rebels series
Palpatine: "I have a fleet of planet killing superships!"
The entire galaxy: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"
I like the way you do the music with the dog at the end XD
The Resistance fleet was pulled right out of JJ's ass. Here's how Rian Johnson left things at the end of "The Last Jedi:"
KAYDEL KO CONNIX: Our distress signal's been received at multiple points, but no response.
LARMA D'ACY: They've heard us, but no one's coming.
LEIA: We fought till the end. But the galaxy has lost all its hope.
There's a difference between making it SEEM that there's no hope for the Rebels and outright SAYING there's no hope for the Rebels. Rian John farked up the trilogy beyond repair at this point. The "Resistance" has been reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon. There's no way for another writer to bring back the Rebels as a credible force without ignoring this scene completely.
I've seen no one mention it, so I'll do it.
I found it pretty neat that they added spaceship the 'Ghost' from rebels
My question is: where were ALL of these ships when the Resistance really needed them?
honestly there should’ve been other resistance cells, kinda like what they did with the rebels show. and tbh the should’ve grouped up the ships based on faction/design (like all mon cala ships together)
5:49 - Is it wrong that I feel that would have been solid movie material right there? Imagining one lone republic taskforce, stuck on the other side of the galaxy, battling its way across multiple systems trying to get reform with other republic fleets and dealing with frightened galactic governments who either want to bend the knee to the Empire...or want something else in exchange?
That could easily have been a logical part of the trilogy we might have gotten, even as a scene or two... had the sequel trilogy give a d&#@ about story. :/
@@sigmacademy how they're getting production material metal where come from
@@nichsa8984 The task force can cannibalize heavily damaged ships in their own ranks or scavenging it from destroyed or crippled enemy ships they encounter. Andromeda (the show) clearly showed a single ship trying to survive in a hostile environment with nothing but the current tech base at its disposal, as well as any tech from its original infrastructure left after after the civil war.
Remember that a New Republic spread out over a Galactic scale would have had multiple task forces, multiple shipyards, multiple component manufacturing nodes set up for multiple production lines. Which is why destroying a handful of planets in the first movie in the sequel trilogy should have never had the impact that TLJ claimed it had. Whenever a regime is toppled, a new one practically rises up in its place overnight by second tier politicians who never got the change to surpass the original politicians in the senate (as seen in how easy Palpy managed to get rid of "troublesome elements" in the Senate, to be replaced by more compliant candidates). To say the New Republic just went belly up because there was a new "Death Star" makes no sense whatsoever. I get the paranoia and confusion aspect, but over the span off three movies spanning multiple years, it doesn't even seem as if there was ANY military action against the First Order. How did the New Republic ever survive against any major threat before the First Order, if taking out a couple of planets is all it took to be destroyed?? :/
Great video love tour stuff. Would love a time travel in Star Wars video too that could be cool
My friend i laughed when it turned up. Film was a shitshow
@Ryan DeGrave The story itself want us to got lost because the plot is recycled and boring making us not interested anymore
Ryan DeGrave let me tell ya something, the movie was not that bad(meh), but not that good at all, but they just needed to put something good to pull many fans back to them, i was disappointed about the movie, the plot was fast pace barely taking a rest, and the space....... i mean air battle was was great at start, but when it came to the star destroyer they have conventional means to destroy the resurgent i mean they had b wings and y wings on stand by, why make a land assault on a star destroyer when they could dissable thru bombing, like why not bomb the tower or the star destroyer’s communications tower, despite many fan services, it wasn’t enough to save the movie, and the clusterfuck of ships in the air battle wasn’t even comparable to the battle of corusant or endor or scarif, it barely gave us any shot of the ships, instead darkish blue backround. So thats what i’m saying is it’s horrible, its the worst, not literally the worst the entire sequel trilogy is a fucked up garbage with all plots and stories thrown around and for disney to make more money, and also i once commented on star wars explained on a comment and everyone bashed and said that i was being unreasonable, and i think you are one of them, i am just saying cause even after a month i’m still angry about, i was left an awe across the movie, cause i don’t know what to say anymore.
@Ryan DeGrave lol so rey was palpatines endgame all along but ordered her to be killed several times throughout this trilogy....plot makes so much sense
@Ryan DeGrave when did @Snepganes say he didn’t understand the plot? He said he laughed with his friend at the scene. (And for good reason, the movie was shit)
Ryan DeGrave You good bro? What are you getting out of insulting random people who don’t like - as you put it - a movie made for children?
Holy shit, you work fast! Also, I saw the poll first about 2 posts above the actual video. LOL
I still would like to see a video dedicated to all forms of light speed travel
we will still get it. i think.
Due to the fact that corrursont wasn’t destroyed the remains of the new republic gathered together.obviously because you can see the new republic symbol on many ships,not the resistance symbol with is the same type.
What we really need to flesh out the sequel trilogy is a tv series that follows a new republic battle group prior to the destruction of Hosnian Prime up through the battle of Exogol. It would be like Battlestar Galactica meets Rouge One.
I'd be down to see that
tbh after the abysmal mess this trilogy was i feel it would just flop. hardly anyone is interested enough in this era that i doubt they'd even plan it. honestly id rather them move away completly from the sequels apart from like comics for the people who do like it. but major shows should go towards like the kenobi show, cassian andor, mando or maybe even a high republic show/film because the HR looks good and interesting.
i get you want it fleshed out and all. but considering the plot is basically a reworked OT with rebels vs empire 2.0. just makes the whole thing uninteresting to start off with. like the resistance is just silly. why would the New republic that fought for years to bring down the empire just let a group of neo empire fascists just kidnap a bunch of children and do feck all. its like oh we beat hitler ok lets go home. no occupying germany, no denazification, no re-education programes. the hitler youth would be back up in days to bring about the next generation of extremist SS troops. all while the allies and soviets watched and thought its fineeeee. like any explanation to that complete lack of logic is most probably going to badly written and cobbled together, a-bit like the sequels themselves. like i said its not worth their time because i feel a majority of the fanbase just hate it.
sorry for long response but i feel strongly about it. dont get me wrong theres loads of good in the sequels. like rey, finn, etc. FO aesthetic and like the force dyad. but the rest doesn't make sense as its all just a reworked OT.
That moment when Disney ripped off the convenient army at the last second idea from Monty Python
I don't know where the fleet came from, but maybe Lando got in touch with Game of Thrones s8 plot teleportation writer and just jumped huge ass armies across maps.
Great analogy, imma steal that one when me and my mates next chat about SW or GoT!👌🏼😂
Travel time hack, confirmed! :P
you should do a video on how the resistance fleet actually managed to get through the hyperspace barrier to exegol giving how small the gaps were when kylo was flying through it. Also a video on where the final order got the resources to build all those planet killing capital ships and why didnt the empire use a similar design instead of wasting resources on 2 massive death stars that do the same thing? theres some more ideas for you
2:10 is that the ghost from Starwars rebel's, to the right?
Alex Vechivtch it might be. It’s at least the correct type
it can be. i think if hera was still alive she would join the résistance at crait .
I love how everyone is modernising and our heroes are still using oldass wreckage
There were SO many ships they could have all fired a single shot and that would be enough to destroy all the Star destroyers
Actually, had the SDs row facing the attacking fleet actually opened up their batteries when the relief fleet came out of hyperspace, that battle would have had a very difference outcome. The entire relief fleet literally dropped out of hyperspace on top of each other - there was no space to maneuver for them. These last 3 movies seem to have no concept of stategy or tactics in space battles. :/
Where does any ship come from.... A Mothership..
no 😎
I always thought I would be cool for the first order to join the fight with the resistance and conform into the republic under Kylo and Rey
It came from a little known place called “plot contrivance”
Love your intro music it’s one of my favorites
You ask that question as if the Sequels made any sense at all.
(is that proper English?)
you get your point accross :)
Take out the “would” and it is.
If you leave out "questions" and "would" then yes, yes it is.
(Actually you could leave in "questions" if you want.)
"You ask that as if the Sequels made any sense at all" sounds slightly more natural, but otherwise the only actual issue with your sentence is the word 'would' (which others have already pointed out should be removed). If you wanted to still include the word 'question' you could say "you ask *that* question as if..."
Thanks!
Hey, Eck, I was just watching the deleted scenes from Return of the Jedi, and there was the one about Jerjerrod and how he did not want to blow up Endor with the Death Star II.
It would have been cooler see a massive CIS fleet.
well thats a long gone era.
Bruh
@@xXMemelord 50 years of préparation. Pure machine of course you will have big army. Look old palpatin in 30 years with just some nerd sith cultist.
I always love and will continue to love your outro
Lando that pansexual genius able to convince literally everyone in the galaxy to fight with him within hours.
It's pretty obvious that the Resistance Fleet came from the same place as the Rebel Fleet in ROTJ or the Confederacy Fleet in ROTS. There were cells scattered across the galaxy and they finally came together at Exegol because it was the now or never moment of the resistance against the First Order.
I look forward to when I can get my hands on the Thrawn trilogy and slowly purge this monstrosity from my psyche.
Play Copius amounts of Thrawn's Revenge.
You're going to enjoy it my man
I only managed to get Heir To The Empire. Great book, especially in the parts Thrawn is in.
@@GaryJojo I surely will! 😃
@@SeaPhantom I hope to get all 3 soon. If only George met Timonthy Zahn in the early 80s. Book 1 film comes out in 1986, Book 2 film comes out in 1989, Book 3 comes out in 1992.
Figured many was those tired of being pushed around an feeling helpless &/or surviving Vets from the Galactic Civil War that cracked they neck, saw what was happening, and cocked they blasters after deciding enough was bout enough.
Or people whom the First Order said they'd protect were lied to and screwed over so decided it's time to give them a taste of their own medicine.
Answer “A poorly written script...”
Presumably there are NGOs like pirates, mercenaries and stuff. What are copreations like at this time. Are they things like the trade federation about?
probably stuff like tech companies that happen to make weapons, possibly a starship company could sneak a gun or two into their private hangars, and idmagine, being pirates, all trading would be escorted. maybe not a capital ship escort, but easily a light fighter ring to atleast buy time for some reinforcements. the more i look at it , the more and more the number is feasible. the plot still isnt amazing, but its a bit better.
Short Answer: They just Ctrl+V all over the place xD
I think how so many ships came so fast is something akin to the twilight bark in 101 Dalmatians. Lando spend the word to everyone he could contact and they, in turn, spread the word to everyone within reach until the whole galaxy was made aware of what was up. That is the most logical way how the fleet came quickly.
It came from really bad writing then Copy Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste.....
Come for lore/theories
Stay for the dog at the end
"It's not a navy, it's just people"
Yeah, lets go charge a fleet of battleships in a bunch of freighters, yachts and garbage barges and see what happens.
Lando just arrived and people were like “ok I’ll come”