That Canadian shield. The power of glaciers during the ice age. The lush forest, how anything manages to grow. It's all really quite humbling. Thank you for sharing.
I am getting my B 2601 with grapple(!) on Thursday. I am excited to give it a try. I have been saving some projects! Because of you, I now have the confidence to play with it, and get some real work done! I am happy the black flies are slowing down. The deer flies are still in full force here in East central MN. Great video!! Beautiful camera angles! Cheers!
Hey good morning Michael. That's great news. Congratulations! You probably won't be able to sleep the next few nights. Hopefully the flies will leave you soon too. Enjoy the tractor and let me know how it is going from time to time. Thanks and all the best!
GP - I found your channel this weekend while doing some tractor research. I am considering a Kubota after almost 15 years with a New Holland compact tractor. Your videos have convinced me to look at a Kubota B-series. I really enjoy watching your videos. I plan to view all of them. Thanks for all the effort in putting them together. Good stuff!
Good morning and welcome to the channel Jamie! I am happy if they have helped a little. So many different and good tractor manufacturers and sizes out there to choose from so it can be a bit of work trying to figure out which one and which size is best for you and your property. Good luck with the hunt and let me know how it is going from time to time. Cheers!
Hey good evening Don. Thanks. It did well again. Not too worried about the tines. Guy said he can fix them up no problem. Have a wonderful week my friend!
Hi GP, I've been so busy these past months that I haven't been watching many of your videos. Great job on this one as usual! I love my grapple too! My neighbor chuckled at my B2601 when I brought it home, but I've been able to help her out of some jams that she struggled to complete with her larger tractor so she's now come around. She's had to admit that with the proper implements the 2601 is a darn handy little tool:)
LOL Jeff. Thats great to hear. I think that is so true. Different size tractors are meant for different things or needs but great that you are both working together on getting stuff done. I am sure you had a big smile when she finally admitted it. LOL. All good and really nice to hear you helping out your neighbors and friends. Tractors offer a great way to bring pals closer together. Cheers and all the best! Thanks for saying hi!
Good evening GP, that is a very nice shooting range !!! GP, If possible try to always put the big rock between the two arms of you FEL you are less prone to do damage due a twisting load. After that great work, you are probably due for a good check of all the bolts and nuts for torque to keep the structural integrity on your tractor !!! Great video GP !!! Cheers !!!
Good morning Dave. Great points and great points about the bolts etc. Yes, I always try to keep it centred but very difficult that day as there are too many rocks and debris that emerges unexpectedly as you are pushing or grabbing. But good advice my friend - thanks!
Good job Gord... The small tractor is a workhorse. Not surprised to see a couple bent tines, comes with the territory! I'm thinking a small excavator would have been ideal here as well as rooting out the stumps. Sometimes we have to make do with what we have on hand, well done... Bill... :~)
Hi BOTH. Yup, so true. You do what you can with what you have for sure. A little bit of progress at a time. I would love to try using an excavator or BH at some point. Maybe soon. :)) Cheers!
And i thought West Virginia was a rocky state wow, ive never seen as many boulders. Seems when your forks were plowing thru the top soil, about every 4 to 6 "s you were bringing up basketball size rocks. That was impressive. Thanks GP hope you have a great week as well.
Hey GP. After watching you move all the rocks I will never complain about a rock at my place again. lol I hope it's an easy fix. Have a fun summer. Later
That is a very powerful tractor for its size. We have a lot of rocks here, thankfully they are small. I can rake the yard and have it rock free, then next week it will look like it has never been raked.
Hey GP and Guy, good job widening the range. Too bad about the bent tine. Should make a good video straightening it out though.🤞😩🤔 I’m sure the two of you will come up with a good fix it method. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
Good morning ODD! Thanks! Lots more work to do so hopefully I will be able to catch a little more on video as Guy continues to build it. Guy has been kind enough to offer to fix it with me and in the meantime , but he did a quick bend/fix for it for now. Have a great week ODD. I think you are starting to enter into super hot temperatures there soon, if I remember correctly. Stay cool. Cheers!
Hi Gord, Glad to see you mention the issue with using a grapple/bucket to back-drag. I also saw a vid on youtube where the guy bent the piston rod doing just that. Neil Messick also did a TMT piece on that same issue. How do you like the LHA grapple compared to the Artillian? I like the LHA do to the fact that it has full length arms top and bottom. I don't care for the Artillian model that is split into 2 sections, with 2 cylinders. It's great for picking up uneven loads, but I think would take some getting used to. My preference would be the LHA for what I would use it for. As always, thanks for the great info and video. Cheers!
Good morning Timothy! Not to worry about the name - LOL. All good kind sir. I have only used the HLA model but have seen the other one on Jon's channel. So it would be hard for me to offer an opinion on it. Interesting concept having multiple attachment options on one frame. I love the HLA so far. I have started bending a few tines lately from all the rock digging I have done with it. I actually don't think the grapple was designed to lift or dig big boulders and I realized I have been applying too much down pressure when I grab the rocks. An easy fix at my neighbour's workshop at some point.I think if you have two separate sections with two cylinders, it would be helpful but models with a single section or jaw, and two cylinders doesn't;t make sense to me. The single cylinder i have applies more than enough power to grip. Thanks for watching and for the morning comment. Have a good long weekend!
Glad you only bent it a bit. Looked like you had a lot of stress on the right loader arm. Fun to watch! Pushing the limits is always going to catch up sooner or latter and for some reason a guy always has to learn it the hard way.
LOL. So true Rick. especially a stubborn guy like myself. Always tough trying to centre the load when you can't see all the rocks prying up in different places while you are pushing but yes, happy it was just a few bends. I don't think it is made to do the rock work I do with it. But it's built pretty tough overall. Thanks and all the best!
Gord, I have to say that you explain many things very clearly and using very simple (read easily understood) terms. Because of that, I was curious in what was your background.....of course, if you are willing to share. Cheers
Good morning and thanks so much Yves. I appreciate the kind comment. I have had various jobs in my career with very different and unrelated job functions. But most recently just general business- related roles. Thanks again and have a good week!
Heyhey Gord I just noticed that your tines were bent in your previous video about the sawmill. I suspect that one was recorded after this one. Keep it going.
That grapple is really tough! It dug up them rocks pretty easy. First battle scars!! LOL I know you and Guy will fix that up in no time! lol Have a great week GP!
I'm right there with you Gord! I have the same grapple on my 2650 and a few of my tines have some character now after about 50 hours of making trail through my 20 acres in Stoney Kepple. (Near Owen Sound ON) My trails ended up being lined with rocks which is kind of nice though. The nice thing about the hla being mild steel, it should be easy to fix. Haven't done mine yet though. Cheers~
Good morning Joe! LOL. I expected with all the heavy work I've done with it over the last 18 months that I would have bent something long ago. We did a quick fix to it for now - simple bend. I was surprised it was not one of the bottom tines that bent. Cheers and all the best out there in Stoney Kepple!
Man O Man GP !!! And I thought my land grew a lot of rocks !! Can you even imagine trying to do that by hand. I can't. Thank God for modern hydraulics, it makes a big tractor out of a little tractor. Another thing, watching a video like this should dissuade those 'diehard' manual transmission guys. The hydrostat is absolutely nothing short of amazing for continual forward and backward operation. Ya done good sir. Thanks again for yet another entertaining and informational video. Now...if Guy just had one of those green tractors to sit down range....I hear they make a great target. Just sayin'.... LOL (-:
LOL T! Too funny. Yes, I drive in and see the rock walls that line the property lines of other properties out by the concession road and I can only imagine what those folks did 100 years ago with a horse and trailer and hand tools prying all those rocks out of the field and placing them into a wall on their property lines. Makes it hard for me to complain. Thanks - happy you enjoyed it good sir. Cheers!
Wow! It may be a little tractor but it can move some monster rocks!! Call me impressed! And bending something is bound to happen eventually when you are really working a tractor. Been there and done that before but never had it on video like you did! Looking forward to the video of you fixing it!
Good day Chad. This little B certainly packs a punch. Still very satisfied with the purchase. Thanks - you are right - I have punished that grapple for a while now so I am not too upset about it. We'll eventually get it in the shop for a proper straightening. Cheers and have a great weekend!
You were moving some sex stones. Back in the early 1980s I graduated school and started my apprentice ship with the Pipefitters & Plumbers. Just starting out I was put with a backhoe operator cleaning out ditches. Occasionally he called a large rock a sex stone. Trying not to seem too dumb I didn't ask why until finally I had to ask what a sex stone was? He said "boy it's a big friggin rock". In 38 years I've never forgotten my first lesson in plumbing. There's only two more things you need to know, poop doesn't flow up hill, and payday is on Friday. We acted like there was more to justify the income but there really isn't. lol
Pretty much like Kcender said, if you never break anything on your tractor, that's because you don't put it to work! In this case, that was intensive work! Thanks!
How's she goin'? Wow the tines bent real easy it looked like. The rocks were big and heavy but the tine bent pretty easy. I didn't expect that. The grapple will pick a pretty big rock, but like you say, the weight of the tractor limits the size of rock. Interesting video GP and I like the way you edit!!! Take care!!!
Thanks Grampie! Yup, as I keep reviewing the footage I think I just kept applying too much down pressure on the grapple, combined with the curve on the rock, probably made for the perfect storm, as they say. I have driven this thing pretty hard over the last 18 months so I was surprised. But Guy said it is a simple fix so all good. Cheers and all the best!
Break for some water . That was funny Gord . Good video . Those sure are some big rocks . A buckett with teeth on the front would have helped a bit . You know , the ones that you bolt on the buckett . A torch will help fix that grapple . Guy has his own shooting range . Wow . That's my dream . On a side note Guy can shoot any caliber of shot gun or rifle at his range . Even a 50cal rifle if he so chooses . That is a big caliber . But here in the Nanny Province of Ontario he can't even shoot a very small 22 cal hand gun on his property . No matter if he had 1000 acres . He has to go to a certified gun range to shoot any type of hand gun . Go figure . Welcome to the Nanny Province of Ontario . To tell you the truth my neighbours would go to hate me very soon if I had my own gun range . I'd probably have my own portable trap machine set up as well . Nothing like the smell of burnt gun powder in the morning . Love it . LOL
Good morning and congratulations Jack! I'll bet you haven't got off it since it arrived. LOL. I hope you enjoy it very much. So many implements and attachments to choose from but as you probably know, my grapple is my favourite and most practical implement I have. A must have I think. Good luck, enjoy the new tractor and let me know how it is going from time to time. Stay safe! Cheers!
I am new to your channel and I am in the the market for a new tractor and I’m trying to learn as much as I can.this is a great source of info! Thanks!! I am really impressed with that little 2601. I figured I would need something a little bigger but after watching a few of your videos the 2601 looks like it can handle most of my projects. What made you decide on the 2601 and can you get a backhoe for a machine that small? Thanks again for all your help!!
Hey good day David. Thanks for the comment and for watching. I am happy it is helpful. Yes you can get a BH for it. Mech Uno has a channel in which he often uses his BH with his B2601 so you may want to check out his channel and see it working so you get an idea of what it may or may not be able to handle, relative to what you think you may need. If you have a smaller property - less than 6 or 7 acres, then a compact tractor may do the trick but if it is bigger you may want to consider at least an L series. I am no expert but I am happy to answer any questions you may have if you wish. If so, send me an email at gordpotter55 at gmail dot com and perhaps we can arrange to talk. If not, no worries, wish you the best with the new tractor decision!
Morning Roy. Thanks! Not too bad at all - we gave it a quick bend back and at some point I am sure Guy will help me take a torch to it and bend it back properly. Cheers!
Great video as usual . Since I am from muskoka myself ( we seem to hatch boulders up here) I know how fast things can bend or break What is the model of your grapple if you don't mint telling ?
Hello Heinz. It is an HLA Attachments "Root Rake with Grapple", "Light Duty". HLA is an Ontario company but they don't retail - they sell through retailers like Farmer Equipment Sales (dot com). I was pretty sure, but confirmed yesterday, that the reason the tines bent was because I kept applying too much down pressure from the hydraulic cylinder on the jaws. My bad. I did it again yesterday. I used to be more careful but lately have been a little too aggressive. That hydraulic cylinder clearly has a lot of down force. Love the grapple. I am in the Kawarthas. Glad you enjoy the videos and hope you enjoy the long weekend at the cottage. The weather is supposed to be awesome this weekend. Cheers!
GP Outdoors Thank you very much I am in lake of bays and found that your grapple would be best fit for my lh37 Kubota As a total novice myself I am relying on your and others mishaps and experiences 😜 Thanks again
Great work! As always we like watching your video's, some great learning material. Have you had any issues with your grapple not holding close on heavier objects? I have the Land pride SGC 0554 grapple (two cylinders) and lately when I clamp down on lets say a bit heavy/larger diameter log it wont hold it, the grapple will open slightly and log will fall out. I need to go back through you video's and see what 3rd function valve you have installed it appears different than mine (also B2601), maybe that valve is letting back some pressure?
Hey good day Chris. Thanks for the comment. Some good discussion there. I think the reason I bent the tines was because I kept applying too much close pressure and I guess those tines caught a curve of the rock and those tines got the worst of it. But honestly, I have been using it since October 2017, and it has never let go once I grip a rock or timber. If the object slides sideways while carrying it or it moves, then it can possible slip out depending on its shape, and I have to grip it a little more as I see the rock turn but the grapple itself stays locked when I grip it. The 3rd function valve I have was installed by the dealer when I first bought it so I assume it is a Kubota part. I don't know much more about them but perhaps your dealer can provide some more background or info to explain it. Thanks for sharing the info. Good luck and talk again soon!
Something else of note is when pushing or lifting huge weights/loads on the outside corners of the bucket or grapple you can twist the loader arms up if not careful ....keep them heavy loads centered
Gordon and Guy I think you guys live on a rock pile I only have sand here in Florida and roots and stumps as they say no pain no gain look at the knowledge you learn in the short time I think you need some white stuff to cover those stones
LOL! No more white stuff for a while Bob! Yes, very true but I sure would like just a little area where I jut have soil or sand to dig through without fighting the granite. LOL. Thanks and have a wonderful week!
Good morning P. We did a quick bend on it but at some point, Guy said he will fire up the torch and bend it properly. I tell you that thing is a tank. I am not sure why the tines finally bent after all this time but perhaps too much granite. Thanks and have a great week!
Good morning and thanks! This size grapple they make is with commercial steel but I saw that the grapples they make for bigger tractors/ skid steers etc are made with the AR400 steel as you suggested. Thanks again and have a good one!
Good day Richard. Thanks for your support - I am happy you enjoy them. I think this tractor is great for my 4 acres here. I think as you get up to 7 or 8 acres and above , an L series would be better ( I'm not an expert by any means but just my thoughts). The pricing is available on all the main manufacturers websites now - Kubota, Deere, Massey, Kioti etc so best to get up to date pricing from there. The attachments are usually somewhere around 2k each on average I think. Good luck and thanks again!
@@GPOutdoors Oh, I see. I thought you were knocking about on 30 acres plus on your lovely tractor! We like the snow blower and extreme flail mowing best. Do you heat with the wood from your property? Is your 4 acres sustainable for that?
I just had my bend on me as well. But how you going to bend back this type of steel? Also, if you do bend it it’s going to weaken the weld even more right?
Hey FR. Some good questions there. We just did a quick bend back on them (long pipe for leverage) but my neighbour will fire up the torch at some point and we will fix properly. I am not sure as we have not discussed it too much yet but I believe he needs to heat it up before bending it properly and I am not sure if it will affect it's integrity or not. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck with yours too!
@@GPOutdoors I think I am just going to leave mine, to be honest. I don't mind it being bent and it isn't effecting anything I do with it. But you are much more careful with your machine than I am with mine.
I agree with you FR. We did a simple bend back on them but I am not at all worried to fix it perfectly either. The thing is not a scalpel, it's a broad sword so I think there is nothing to worry about overall. Thanks again and have a good one!
@@GPOutdoors wow. Thanks for replying. I'm in northern Kommifornija'stan and the dude I work for has just water in his. I aktully have to refill them soon due to a previous punkture and repair. Sure makes finding the leak easy. Lol. :) Have a great day man.
@@GPOutdoors Man,...... Lol. It's where dogs step over human poop on the sidewalk. I'm not saying I live in San Francisko, But yeah. Enjoy your gun rights. Salute from behind enemy lines.
Good morning. The 2rd function valve is an option sold separately but I am very happy I had it installed - I use it for the grapple as well as for the front mount snowblower in the winter. Cheers!
I always leave it in that position. it came that way from the dealer - he suggested to leave it there as it is easier to get into the hood etc so i have never moved it. Do you have yours in the other position where it is closer to the front of the hood?
Yes, I always run with it near the hood unless I want to open the hood. I think that doing so makes it less susceptible to it being snagged by errant branches.
Good morning Matthew. Thanks for the followup. I have part of what I need but hard to find the final piece of it. The one part I have not figured out yet is the third party liability when off property. Seems no one so far is willing to offer that coverage. I have one other company someone suggested , which i need to call but if they don't offer it then I will just keep looking. If you know of a company that does offer it, it would be greatly appreciated if you can let me know the name. Cheers!
Have you checked Dublin Insurance? They are out of Ontario it think. I’m trying to get insurance for my Mx5200 and having some trouble. I live down a private road and would like to be able to use my tractor to help with maintaining the road but I’m not willing to if I’m not going to be cover.
Yup, finally hurt it a bit. But not a bad fix to deal with. Funny how after all that digging it wasn't the bottom tines. Cheers and thanks for watching Alphonso!
Just at first glance, it looks like a ridiculously oversized implement for the size of the loader. Just because it will fit on the loader doesn't mean you should do so. My prediction is you're going to do some expensive damage to the loader/tractor if you keep using it that way. A tractor is not a bulldozer.
Morning Ed and thanks for sharing your thoughts. The B is sized for 60" implements/attachments and the Kubota dealer recommended it (and sold it to me). I'm still kind of new to tractors (only 4 years) but I figure if the dealer says it is the right size for the tractor, then it should be ok . He is holding the 7 year warranty on it. :)) Have a good one!
Hey good day Tombstone. Long time. I hope you are doing great. I would love a bigger tractor but this one is doing the job for now. I wish I had more property to warrant something bigger. Maybe one day. :)) Cheers and all the best to you!
You are a wonderful teacher. Thank you for the time you put into these videos.
You are most welcome - I am happy if it helped a bit. And thanks for the kind comment - All the best!
Great video. Very informative. Good work with that tractor. It handled a lot more than I thought it would be able to. Thanks👍
That Canadian shield. The power of glaciers during the ice age. The lush forest, how anything manages to grow. It's all really quite humbling. Thank you for sharing.
Good morning Tim. So true. It amazes me as well. Have a great week!
I am getting my B 2601 with grapple(!) on Thursday. I am excited to give it a try. I have been saving some projects! Because of you, I now have the confidence to play with it, and get some real work done! I am happy the black flies are slowing down. The deer flies are still in full force here in East central MN. Great video!! Beautiful camera angles! Cheers!
Hey good morning Michael. That's great news. Congratulations! You probably won't be able to sleep the next few nights. Hopefully the flies will leave you soon too. Enjoy the tractor and let me know how it is going from time to time. Thanks and all the best!
Good job , yes all equipment has it limits, I really like all the tips , from your videos
Thanks Rick!
Third viewing of this video is the charm I hope! You do a nice job! God Bless!
GP - I found your channel this weekend while doing some tractor research. I am considering a Kubota after almost 15 years with a New Holland compact tractor. Your videos have convinced me to look at a Kubota B-series. I really enjoy watching your videos. I plan to view all of them. Thanks for all the effort in putting them together. Good stuff!
Good morning and welcome to the channel Jamie! I am happy if they have helped a little. So many different and good tractor manufacturers and sizes out there to choose from so it can be a bit of work trying to figure out which one and which size is best for you and your property. Good luck with the hunt and let me know how it is going from time to time. Cheers!
grapple is a very handy implement; easy fix on the tines with a torch.
Thanks CP! You bet!
As always, good information GP!
Cheers Lonnie!
Gordon-thanks for a great instructional video,!
Cheers Thomas!
Super video. My grapple has been the handiest implement in my arsenal. I love watching videos about their use so that I can continue to improve.
Thanks Mark! Yup, I agree - best implement or at least the most used here. Cheers!
Some more good info GP....and that grapple sure did its work for ya.......nice.....take care and stay safe my friend........ :)
Hey good evening Don. Thanks. It did well again. Not too worried about the tines. Guy said he can fix them up no problem. Have a wonderful week my friend!
Hi GP, I've been so busy these past months that I haven't been watching many of your videos. Great job on this one as usual! I love my grapple too! My neighbor chuckled at my B2601 when I brought it home, but I've been able to help her out of some jams that she struggled to complete with her larger tractor so she's now come around. She's had to admit that with the proper implements the 2601 is a darn handy little tool:)
LOL Jeff. Thats great to hear. I think that is so true. Different size tractors are meant for different things or needs but great that you are both working together on getting stuff done. I am sure you had a big smile when she finally admitted it. LOL. All good and really nice to hear you helping out your neighbors and friends. Tractors offer a great way to bring pals closer together. Cheers and all the best! Thanks for saying hi!
nice video ty for helping. him.
Good evening GP, that is a very nice shooting range !!! GP, If possible try to always put the big rock between the two arms of you FEL you are less prone to do damage due a twisting load. After that great work, you are probably due for a good check of all the bolts and nuts for torque to keep the structural integrity on your tractor !!! Great video GP !!! Cheers !!!
Good morning Dave. Great points and great points about the bolts etc. Yes, I always try to keep it centred but very difficult that day as there are too many rocks and debris that emerges unexpectedly as you are pushing or grabbing. But good advice my friend - thanks!
@@GPOutdoors Your Welcome GP, do take care of yourself and great tractor that you have !!! Cheers !!!
that tractor is pretty strong good job thanks for sharing
two boys and their toys. Looks like you had some fun. Isn't it great to have those tractors? Kinda like being a kid and having your TONKA trucks.
LOL TPG. Yup, I think we never get over the desire to play with machines. Cheers and all the best!
That little tractor was moving some Big boulders! Bigger than I thought it could handle.
Good morning BB! Yup, that little B packs a good punch. I am still really happy with it. Have a good one!
Great information we own a yanmar tractor I do like the grappler thank you for videos
You're most welcome Mike. Happy you enjoy them. All the best!
Your grapple now has character 🤙🏼
LOl. I like that. Character. Cheers and thanks Ross!
Good job Gord... The small tractor is a workhorse. Not surprised to see a couple bent tines, comes with the territory! I'm thinking a small excavator would have been ideal here as well as rooting out the stumps. Sometimes we have to make do with what we have on hand, well done...
Bill... :~)
Hi BOTH. Yup, so true. You do what you can with what you have for sure. A little bit of progress at a time. I would love to try using an excavator or BH at some point. Maybe soon. :)) Cheers!
And i thought West Virginia was a rocky state wow, ive never seen as many boulders. Seems when your forks were plowing thru the top soil, about every 4 to 6 "s you were bringing up basketball size rocks. That was impressive. Thanks GP hope you have a great week as well.
Good day Dean. Yup, there is not too much area here where I can dig too far without hitting something. Cheers!
Hey GP. After watching you move all the rocks I will never complain about a rock at my place again. lol I hope it's an easy fix. Have a fun summer. Later
LOL Mech! That's so funny cause I often watch you digging there and wish I had some normal soil and sand to work with. Be well!
That is a very powerful tractor for its size. We have a lot of rocks here, thankfully they are small. I can rake the yard and have it rock free, then next week it will look like it has never been raked.
LOL Roger! Funny how they pop up and appear out of nowhere. Hope you are doing great! Cheers!
nice job the 2601 is a beast to move those rocks like that. enjoyed the video.
Hey thanks Dave! Be well!
Hey GP and Guy, good job widening the range. Too bad about the bent tine. Should make a good video straightening it out though.🤞😩🤔 I’m sure the two of you will come up with a good fix it method. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
Good morning ODD! Thanks! Lots more work to do so hopefully I will be able to catch a little more on video as Guy continues to build it. Guy has been kind enough to offer to fix it with me and in the meantime , but he did a quick bend/fix for it for now. Have a great week ODD. I think you are starting to enter into super hot temperatures there soon, if I remember correctly. Stay cool. Cheers!
Hi Gord,
Glad to see you mention the issue with using a grapple/bucket to back-drag. I also saw a vid on youtube where the guy bent the piston rod doing just that. Neil Messick also did a TMT piece on that same issue. How do you like the LHA grapple compared to the Artillian? I like the LHA do to the fact that it has full length arms top and bottom. I don't care for the Artillian model that is split into 2 sections, with 2 cylinders. It's great for picking up uneven loads, but I think would take some getting used to.
My preference would be the LHA for what I would use it for. As always, thanks for the great info and video.
Cheers!
Good morning Timothy! Not to worry about the name - LOL. All good kind sir. I have only used the HLA model but have seen the other one on Jon's channel. So it would be hard for me to offer an opinion on it. Interesting concept having multiple attachment options on one frame. I love the HLA so far. I have started bending a few tines lately from all the rock digging I have done with it. I actually don't think the grapple was designed to lift or dig big boulders and I realized I have been applying too much down pressure when I grab the rocks. An easy fix at my neighbour's workshop at some point.I think if you have two separate sections with two cylinders, it would be helpful but models with a single section or jaw, and two cylinders doesn't;t make sense to me. The single cylinder i have applies more than enough power to grip. Thanks for watching and for the morning comment. Have a good long weekend!
Glad you only bent it a bit. Looked like you had a lot of stress on the right loader arm. Fun to watch! Pushing the limits is always going to catch up sooner or latter and for some reason a guy always has to learn it the hard way.
LOL. So true Rick. especially a stubborn guy like myself. Always tough trying to centre the load when you can't see all the rocks prying up in different places while you are pushing but yes, happy it was just a few bends. I don't think it is made to do the rock work I do with it. But it's built pretty tough overall. Thanks and all the best!
Good video and demonstration of what the grapple can handle.
Cheers!
great info about the bucket at full extension, I was not aware of that. thanks!
Cheers Tom!
Rock is definitely the cash crop there! That little tractor sure did it weight in work.
Morning DD! it packs a good punch for such a small unit. I am pretty happy with it. Cheers!
Gord, I have to say that you explain many things very clearly and using very simple (read easily understood) terms. Because of that, I was curious in what was your background.....of course, if you are willing to share. Cheers
Good morning and thanks so much Yves. I appreciate the kind comment. I have had various jobs in my career with very different and unrelated job functions. But most recently just general business- related roles. Thanks again and have a good week!
All part of using a tractor. Sooner or later something will get damaged. Shouldn’t be too bad of a fix. Have a good one.
Thanks K! True. I was kind of surprised it didn't happen a while ago with all the rock work I have done with it since I got it. Have a great week!
Heyhey Gord I just noticed that your tines were bent in your previous video about the sawmill. I suspect that one was recorded after this one. Keep it going.
Yes indeed. Keen eye there Ak! Cheers!
Hi GP! Sorry you bent a couple of tines on your grapple! However, you, your tractor and the grapple did an impressive job handling those boulders!
Thanks DIY! Can't wait to see the new shop done! Cheers and hope the build is going great!
That grapple is really tough! It dug up them rocks pretty easy. First battle scars!! LOL I know you and Guy will fix that up in no time! lol Have a great week GP!
LOL LA! Battle scars. I like that. Cheers and keep cool John!
I'm right there with you Gord! I have the same grapple on my 2650 and a few of my tines have some character now after about 50 hours of making trail through my 20 acres in Stoney Kepple. (Near Owen Sound ON) My trails ended up being lined with rocks which is kind of nice though. The nice thing about the hla being mild steel, it should be easy to fix. Haven't done mine yet though.
Cheers~
Good morning Joe! LOL. I expected with all the heavy work I've done with it over the last 18 months that I would have bent something long ago. We did a quick fix to it for now - simple bend. I was surprised it was not one of the bottom tines that bent. Cheers and all the best out there in Stoney Kepple!
Man O Man GP !!! And I thought my land grew a lot of rocks !! Can you even imagine trying to do that by hand. I can't. Thank God for modern hydraulics, it makes a big tractor out of a little tractor. Another thing, watching a video like this should dissuade those 'diehard' manual transmission guys. The hydrostat is absolutely nothing short of amazing for continual forward and backward operation. Ya done good sir. Thanks again for yet another entertaining and informational video. Now...if Guy just had one of those green tractors to sit down range....I hear they make a great target. Just sayin'.... LOL (-:
LOL T! Too funny. Yes, I drive in and see the rock walls that line the property lines of other properties out by the concession road and I can only imagine what those folks did 100 years ago with a horse and trailer and hand tools prying all those rocks out of the field and placing them into a wall on their property lines. Makes it hard for me to complain. Thanks - happy you enjoyed it good sir. Cheers!
I'll sick with my L3901DT, don't have to listen to the HST whine :)
What a neat handy tool. Cheers
Some tough work there, GP. Your tractor definitely has some umph. I think some heat may help reshape those bent teeth. Enjoyed a good full watch.
Good morning and thanks Houndsman. It will get a little love soon. LOL Cheers!
I use my grapple a lot one of my favorite implements
Me too, Rodney. Love the grapple. Thanks for watching - have a good week!
Wow! It may be a little tractor but it can move some monster rocks!! Call me impressed! And bending something is bound to happen eventually when you are really working a tractor. Been there and done that before but never had it on video like you did! Looking forward to the video of you fixing it!
Good day Chad. This little B certainly packs a punch. Still very satisfied with the purchase. Thanks - you are right - I have punished that grapple for a while now so I am not too upset about it. We'll eventually get it in the shop for a proper straightening. Cheers and have a great weekend!
You were moving some sex stones. Back in the early 1980s I graduated school and started my apprentice ship with the Pipefitters & Plumbers. Just starting out I was put with a backhoe operator cleaning out ditches. Occasionally he called a large rock a sex stone. Trying not to seem too dumb I didn't ask why until finally I had to ask what a sex stone was? He said "boy it's a big friggin rock". In 38 years I've never forgotten my first lesson in plumbing. There's only two more things you need to know, poop doesn't flow up hill, and payday is on Friday. We acted like there was more to justify the income but there really isn't. lol
LOL! That was a great story, Turd! Thanks for sharing!
Pretty much like Kcender said, if you never break anything on your tractor, that's because you don't put it to work! In this case, that was intensive work! Thanks!
Cheers Joe! Hope to see you soon!
What grapple is that?
May I suggest you put model info in the description when you refer to a particular piece of equipment?
How's she goin'? Wow the tines bent real easy it looked like. The rocks were big and heavy but the tine bent pretty easy. I didn't expect that. The grapple will pick a pretty big rock, but like you say, the weight of the tractor limits the size of rock. Interesting video GP and I like the way you edit!!! Take care!!!
Thanks Grampie! Yup, as I keep reviewing the footage I think I just kept applying too much down pressure on the grapple, combined with the curve on the rock, probably made for the perfect storm, as they say. I have driven this thing pretty hard over the last 18 months so I was surprised. But Guy said it is a simple fix so all good. Cheers and all the best!
@@GPOutdoors I figured since it bent so easy it should straighten out with no worries about breaking off. Take care!!!
Break for some water . That was funny Gord . Good video . Those sure are some big rocks . A buckett with teeth on the front would have helped a bit . You know , the ones that you bolt on the buckett . A torch will help fix that grapple . Guy has his own shooting range . Wow . That's my dream . On a side note Guy can shoot any caliber of shot gun or rifle at his range . Even a 50cal rifle if he so chooses . That is a big caliber . But here in the Nanny Province of Ontario he can't even shoot a very small 22 cal hand gun on his property . No matter if he had 1000 acres . He has to go to a certified gun range to shoot any type of hand gun . Go figure . Welcome to the Nanny Province of Ontario . To tell you the truth my neighbours would go to hate me very soon if I had my own gun range . I'd probably have my own portable trap machine set up as well . Nothing like the smell of burnt gun powder in the morning . Love it . LOL
LOL Henry! Too funny. Yes, very true. I see you caught the "water" reference. Have a great week and talk again soon. Cheers!
Thanks
Big rocks!!!
i got a bx2200 yesterday and now i want a grapple for it
Good morning and congratulations Jack! I'll bet you haven't got off it since it arrived. LOL. I hope you enjoy it very much. So many implements and attachments to choose from but as you probably know, my grapple is my favourite and most practical implement I have. A must have I think. Good luck, enjoy the new tractor and let me know how it is going from time to time. Stay safe! Cheers!
Nice Dog
Do you think it would be ok to extend the grapple to use as a rake if you float the grapple? Or could it still hurt the pistons?
I am new to your channel and I am in the the market for a new tractor and I’m trying to learn as much as I can.this is a great source of info! Thanks!! I am really impressed with that little 2601. I figured I would need something a little bigger but after watching a few of your videos the 2601 looks like it can handle most of my projects. What made you decide on the 2601 and can you get a backhoe for a machine that small? Thanks again for all your help!!
Hey good day David. Thanks for the comment and for watching. I am happy it is helpful. Yes you can get a BH for it. Mech Uno has a channel in which he often uses his BH with his B2601 so you may want to check out his channel and see it working so you get an idea of what it may or may not be able to handle, relative to what you think you may need. If you have a smaller property - less than 6 or 7 acres, then a compact tractor may do the trick but if it is bigger you may want to consider at least an L series. I am no expert but I am happy to answer any questions you may have if you wish. If so, send me an email at gordpotter55 at gmail dot com and perhaps we can arrange to talk. If not, no worries, wish you the best with the new tractor decision!
Thanks so much for the offer to help! I will be in contact.!!
I could have used one today, was trying to rough up grass to make new garden
Sorry about the damage GP but u guys moved some serious rock👍🤣
Morning Roy. Thanks! Not too bad at all - we gave it a quick bend back and at some point I am sure Guy will help me take a torch to it and bend it back properly. Cheers!
As I watched this I was thinking what would Andrew Camarata have used?
He is awesome! So sad about Levi..
Great video as usual . Since I am from muskoka myself ( we seem to hatch boulders up here) I know how fast things can bend or break
What is the model of your grapple if you don't mint telling ?
Hello Heinz. It is an HLA Attachments "Root Rake with Grapple", "Light Duty". HLA is an Ontario company but they don't retail - they sell through retailers like Farmer Equipment Sales (dot com). I was pretty sure, but confirmed yesterday, that the reason the tines bent was because I kept applying too much down pressure from the hydraulic cylinder on the jaws. My bad. I did it again yesterday. I used to be more careful but lately have been a little too aggressive. That hydraulic cylinder clearly has a lot of down force. Love the grapple. I am in the Kawarthas. Glad you enjoy the videos and hope you enjoy the long weekend at the cottage. The weather is supposed to be awesome this weekend. Cheers!
GP Outdoors
Thank you very much
I am in lake of bays and found that your grapple would be best fit for my lh37 Kubota
As a total novice myself I am relying on your and others mishaps and experiences 😜
Thanks again
Great work! As always we like watching your video's, some great learning material. Have you had any issues with your grapple not holding close on heavier objects? I have the Land pride SGC 0554 grapple (two cylinders) and lately when I clamp down on lets say a bit heavy/larger diameter log it wont hold it, the grapple will open slightly and log will fall out. I need to go back through you video's and see what 3rd function valve you have installed it appears different than mine (also B2601), maybe that valve is letting back some pressure?
Hey good day Chris. Thanks for the comment. Some good discussion there. I think the reason I bent the tines was because I kept applying too much close pressure and I guess those tines caught a curve of the rock and those tines got the worst of it. But honestly, I have been using it since October 2017, and it has never let go once I grip a rock or timber. If the object slides sideways while carrying it or it moves, then it can possible slip out depending on its shape, and I have to grip it a little more as I see the rock turn but the grapple itself stays locked when I grip it. The 3rd function valve I have was installed by the dealer when I first bought it so I assume it is a Kubota part. I don't know much more about them but perhaps your dealer can provide some more background or info to explain it. Thanks for sharing the info. Good luck and talk again soon!
My bad..HLA grapple, not LHA. That's the problem with being 72, the memory is shot, lol.
Cheers.
Something else of note is when pushing or lifting huge weights/loads on the outside corners of the bucket or grapple you can twist the loader arms up if not careful ....keep them heavy loads centered
Great point BKRGI! Thanks!
I think your grappler should be about a 48 inch
Gordon and Guy I think you guys live on a rock pile I only have sand here in Florida and roots and stumps as they say no pain no gain look at the knowledge you learn in the short time I think you need some white stuff to cover those stones
LOL! No more white stuff for a while Bob! Yes, very true but I sure would like just a little area where I jut have soil or sand to dig through without fighting the granite. LOL. Thanks and have a wonderful week!
Hope its not too big a chore to straighten that out. From the title I was expecting some serious carnage.
Good morning P. We did a quick bend on it but at some point, Guy said he will fire up the torch and bend it properly. I tell you that thing is a tank. I am not sure why the tines finally bent after all this time but perhaps too much granite. Thanks and have a great week!
G P Guy very interesting if Guy is willing some shouting would be great I belong to a gun club with ranges
God Bless All
PaK
Nice! I will let him know Peter. Cheers!
the regular bucket is more stable for that kind of work
Likely those tines bent due to being constructed from regular mild steel. You can avoid that fate by buying AR400 constructed grapples in the future.
Good morning and thanks! This size grapple they make is with commercial steel but I saw that the grapples they make for bigger tractors/ skid steers etc are made with the AR400 steel as you suggested. Thanks again and have a good one!
I've been enjoying your videos. What size property is appropriate for this size of tractor? What did you pay for your Kubota and all the attachments?
Good day Richard. Thanks for your support - I am happy you enjoy them. I think this tractor is great for my 4 acres here. I think as you get up to 7 or 8 acres and above , an L series would be better ( I'm not an expert by any means but just my thoughts). The pricing is available on all the main manufacturers websites now - Kubota, Deere, Massey, Kioti etc so best to get up to date pricing from there. The attachments are usually somewhere around 2k each on average I think. Good luck and thanks again!
@@GPOutdoors Oh, I see. I thought you were knocking about on 30 acres plus on your lovely tractor! We like the snow blower and extreme flail mowing best. Do you heat with the wood from your property? Is your 4 acres sustainable for that?
Bummer about your grapple GP. With Guys talents, it should be easily fixable.
You bet Gary. He said we can fix it up at his workshop. Cheers!
I just had my bend on me as well. But how you going to bend back this type of steel?
Also, if you do bend it it’s going to weaken the weld even more right?
Hey FR. Some good questions there. We just did a quick bend back on them (long pipe for leverage) but my neighbour will fire up the torch at some point and we will fix properly. I am not sure as we have not discussed it too much yet but I believe he needs to heat it up before bending it properly and I am not sure if it will affect it's integrity or not. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck with yours too!
@@GPOutdoors I think I am just going to leave mine, to be honest. I don't mind it being bent and it isn't effecting anything I do with it. But you are much more careful with your machine than I am with mine.
I agree with you FR. We did a simple bend back on them but I am not at all worried to fix it perfectly either. The thing is not a scalpel, it's a broad sword so I think there is nothing to worry about overall. Thanks again and have a good one!
Water ballast in the rear?
Also, my fav part is the puppy.
LOL. Rimguard. Cheers Subix!
@@GPOutdoors wow. Thanks for replying. I'm in northern Kommifornija'stan and the dude I work for has just water in his. I aktully have to refill them soon due to a previous punkture and repair. Sure makes finding the leak easy. Lol. :) Have a great day man.
LOL. ok, I have to ask my friend. Where exactly is that? I entered it into my maps program and it can't find it. :))
@@GPOutdoors
Man,...... Lol.
It's where dogs step over human poop on the sidewalk. I'm not saying I live in San Francisko,
But yeah. Enjoy your gun rights. Salute from behind enemy lines.
LOL! Sorry, I was a little slow on that one. Cheers!
Who is the manufacturer and what is the model number thanks
Hope it's not a big fix, cheers
Morning teddy. Should be pretty simple so not too bad at all. Have a great week!
does that tractor come standard with the third function for grapple? thanks
Good morning. The 2rd function valve is an option sold separately but I am very happy I had it installed - I use it for the grapple as well as for the front mount snowblower in the winter. Cheers!
What size and brand/ model is your grapple?
Good morning Jeff. It is an HLA Attachments grapple. it is the "Root Rake with Grapple" light duty model 60". Love that grapple. Cheers!
Why was the brush guard down?
I always leave it in that position. it came that way from the dealer - he suggested to leave it there as it is easier to get into the hood etc so i have never moved it. Do you have yours in the other position where it is closer to the front of the hood?
Yes, I always run with it near the hood unless I want to open the hood. I think that doing so makes it less susceptible to it being snagged by errant branches.
How did you ever make out with the tractor insurance??
Good morning Matthew. Thanks for the followup. I have part of what I need but hard to find the final piece of it. The one part I have not figured out yet is the third party liability when off property. Seems no one so far is willing to offer that coverage. I have one other company someone suggested , which i need to call but if they don't offer it then I will just keep looking. If you know of a company that does offer it, it would be greatly appreciated if you can let me know the name. Cheers!
Have you checked Dublin Insurance? They are out of Ontario it think. I’m trying to get insurance for my Mx5200 and having some trouble. I live down a private road and would like to be able to use my tractor to help with maintaining the road but I’m not willing to if I’m not going to be cover.
That's the one I have not called yet. Thanks Matthew! If I get some helpful info from them i will try to let you know. Cheers!
OUCH
Yup, finally hurt it a bit. But not a bad fix to deal with. Funny how after all that digging it wasn't the bottom tines. Cheers and thanks for watching Alphonso!
play at 1.5
Just at first glance, it looks like a ridiculously oversized implement for the size of the loader. Just because it will fit on the loader doesn't mean you should do so. My prediction is you're going to do some expensive damage to the loader/tractor if you keep using it that way. A tractor is not a bulldozer.
Morning Ed and thanks for sharing your thoughts. The B is sized for 60" implements/attachments and the Kubota dealer recommended it (and sold it to me). I'm still kind of new to tractors (only 4 years) but I figure if the dealer says it is the right size for the tractor, then it should be ok . He is holding the 7 year warranty on it. :)) Have a good one!
could have utilized your box blade, just sayin
That's a good idea Logan. So much to learn about many of the attachments - you can use them many different ways. Have a Happy New Year!
@@GPOutdoors Thank you U2
Dude you need a bigger tractor .
Hey good day Tombstone. Long time. I hope you are doing great. I would love a bigger tractor but this one is doing the job for now. I wish I had more property to warrant something bigger. Maybe one day. :)) Cheers and all the best to you!