Building a 10sec Supra pt2: How much power can we get from a stock block 2JZ?
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2019
- EPISODE 5: The 2JZ is legendary, but can we squeeze enough power out of a stock block supra motor to run an easy 10? We find out.
Engine specs:
Stock 2JZ VVTi block
Kelford Cams V202-D 272/278 10.2mm lift cams
Kelford valve springs to suit
Hypertune 100mm intercooler & plenum
Turbosmart 60mm gate, BOV & RR-FPR
GCG Turbochargers Pty Ltd GTX3584RS-2
6boost exhaust manifold
Haltech Elite 2500 ECU
PWR Performance Products radiator
Southam Engineering R35GTR ignition coil conversion
Hardrace Suspension Australia engine and trans mounts
Wiring by Whitey's Wiring
Boomslang engine harness
2200cc Bosch injectors
ARP head studs
Head rebuilt by Scott Johnston at Next Level Motorsport
Catch can & fab work by David Johnson
Tune by David Lenthall at GT AUTO GARAGE
Can't wait to get it out on the road, then to the track to see what kind of times we can run :D - Авто та транспорт
Man plumbing the gate back sounds so much better haha, I have the same cams, 6boost t4 mani etc, and it doesn't sound the same, your car sounds much more refined because of that, love it
Sounds Beastly ❤️
Almost a 1000 on E85...should be close to 9 sec!!🤘🏻
Full weight and manual. Supra’s are tricky things to get the power down efficiently in. We’re only planning to run around 26-27psi when it goes out, so I don’t expect we’re likely to get too deep into the tens, but we will try :P
What a beast !!
Holy fuck. 2J's are impressive!
That they are. The only factory drawback stopping them from hitting 11’s is fuel. With a maxed out fuel system we reached 450hp at the hubs.
Thanks scottty
You can run 750 whp all day on 98 octane with the stock bottom end of a GTE. You've got them oil squirters 👍
How about 91 ?
before watching and reading comments, im going to guess 900hp+
best motor ever created!
Sick supra
Great build, but why is the air filter in the engine bay without (apparently) any heat shielding?
Great video. Can’t wait for the air cup video. Any word when that’s coming out ?
Just been waiting til the car was finished so could neaten up the wiring. We’ve got some switch gear made up that needs to be finished. Once we get the car back it won’t take long :)
What size rear housing are you running? 1.01?
The car keep running well or you any issues with the stock block? I really want to know.
Nice one how much hp do you get on 93 octane fuel?
How come with E85 it looks to be lazier compared to 98? The 98 power curve comes on power earlier? Good video mate
Germaingazm I’d say to try save the rods. Low end torque will kill them
That's pretty extreme for a GTX35
how much whp should i get with 93 octane fuel?? with the same set up? thanks
does e85 make more wear on the bore?
Nice power! what fuel pumps?
Twin walbros
Which kind of fuel pumps are you running
what turbo are you running specs ?
Hi mate,
Just purchased my supra (factory twins) up for ideas from people who know what they are doing.
How much and who do I contact?
I am on the Goldcoast I’m hopeful someone is local to me.
Do the fans come with the radiator? Are they doing okay on the street? Heard lots of stories of people switching back to stock fan due to overheating/fans not pulling enough air..
Sorry I mean with other fan setups such as mishimoto..
@@mylovelykaro we haven't had a chance to drive it on the street yet. Still working on other aspects. The fans and shroud were supplied by PWR so knowing them, we are in safe hands there :) I recommend hitting them up if you're chasing a proven cooling system.
Keep getting mix review.. alot of guys says stock gte intake manifold is pretty good up to certain power... vs thos ebay $600 ones. Which all looks the same.
The stock plenum is great, I wouldn't touch it unless you plan on making 900hp+ or have a built motor and don't want any limitations for big power one day.
Im doing this to my gs300 vvti also i want forged rots and pistons but only wanna run like 500hp wil a complete stock Block hande that ? ( low miles 80k )
I'm sure you've learned by now that a stock 2JZGTE is built for at least 800hp without opening the block.
Was it a GE or a GTE
One thing I have never quite understood is people saying the "more ignition timing" on e85 resultis in "more power". As far as I was aware e85 REQUIRED more timing advance because it was slower burning, not because it was possible to without detonation occurring. With an e85 and ron98 tune isn't the combustion still happening at the same time in the cylinder position roughly? Have I got the wrong end of the stick here o.O
i think thats cause of the extra fuel compared to 98, e85 uses way more fuel so i think combustion has to happen later simply cause it takes longer to fill up the chamber.
@@Frietpan I know why it combusts slower and requires more ignition advance to make peak power but it always confuses me when people say something like "I went e85 and got a nice power bump from the extra ignition timing" when e85 simply seems to require more advance to get combustion at the same time as ron98. Seems a little odd to me that is all
E85 is slower burning (higher octane), meaning you can advance the timing to ensure the biggest “bang” without worrying so much about pre-detonation.
98 fuel will typically ignite before you get the timing to the ideal point to create the biggest “bang” to force the piston down harder on the downstroke.
E85 also runs cooler which helps keep temperatures down.
E85 has a lower energy density though, so while it can make more power for the previously mentioned reasons, it takes more fuel to make the same power as 98 pump.
@@StreetFXofficial Ah ok, so it is the more consistent and cooler burn of e85 that does allow you to get earlier combustion and more power. I did not understand the limits of ron fuel combustion enough I guess. Cheers for the info
@@lockjawjak It's mostly due to the fact it is harder to ignite, and less prone to pre-detonation that means you can dial in a more aggressive timing curve that yields the increased power.
Put a Glide in it
Yeah nah
Hi was the turbo maxed out
Not yet, still seemed to have more in it
Realistically with a proper drag setup you should get well into the 9s with that power.
We don’t plan to wind it all the way up. Probably only 26psi and 275 drag radials. Full weight, no stripping. Will also be on coilovers which will limit the drag capabilities.
@@StreetFXofficial Supras arent as heavy as they look you'd be surprised. Good luck with your quest with the 10 second pass i think you will achieve it with ease. Your setup is pretty similar to mine besides the vvt-i and turbo.
Oh yeah, people seem to think they weigh 1600kg, but they are 1400-1450kg. We weighed ours in one of our other episodes on here. I was just meaning that we aren’t stripping ours for the sake of a drag pass.
Nice to hear from another Supra brother though :P
@@StreetFXofficial I'm not a fan of stripping the car it should be raced as it is driven on the street. We need to expand the Supra brotherhood lol
haha getting harder to expand these days when the entry level RZ or RZ-S is $30-40k. Not too long ago as little as $10k would buy you an RZ.
3:05
up to about 1300 crank hp before they give out.
What was Compression Ratio?
It's a stock bottom end so it is 8.5 : 1
@@timvanderstarre9021 thx
2jz 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
So ur telling me you can run 400-450 KW reliably with stock engine ?
What the fk is a KW
@@550.91D kilowatt
What is the difference between the 2jz ge and 2jz gte other than turbos, is there any difference with the actual cars themselves??
Ain’t there some stock block GTR’s pushing 1500hp?
No. Not for long anyway.
Maybe for 3 Dyno runs then half themselves
Brimmy you joking right? Maybe for 3 seconds
well yes there are actually. Wouldn't really be called a stock block but it can be done with the block minorly modicied
As far as I know no 😂 would blow so fast
I thought the vvti engines wouldn't hold more then 700hp
VVTi 2JZ-GTE has the same internals as the non vvti GTE and non vvti GE. Only the 2JZ-GE VVTi has weaker and lighter rods that will fail after 400hp.
This makes me love the BMW N54 even more....
Uh?
@@StreetFXofficial Considering the price per hp, capability and difficulty level it seems the N54 engine is better. Especially when considering the price and availability of the engine itself. If you haven't noticed I am a bit of a N54 fan, but I'm not trying to diss 2jz.
I think you’d find the 2j to have a more proven track record to make power reliably without internal modifications. It is unfortunate for tuners now though, how expensive the 2j has started to become. That will happen though when things become harder to find.
@@StreetFXofficial Yeah I know, it's an older engine ofc. But now that the N54 is a well known and interesting platform everyone and their mom is trying to break records with it. I've been following the tuning community closely and I think 2019 is gonna be the year of N54.
Says the guy that comes in a supra video and babbles about n54's to try to feed his own ego. As an owner of both cars will say n54's arent even close to these engines. Yes the blocks can withstand similar power if lucky (again I say if lucky) but arent near as reliable or solid of motors. I spent almost $10,000 just trying to keep my 500 whp n54 running. Versus running and gunning any of my Supra engines 7m,1jz, or 2jz with no issues making 6-800hp on stock bottom ends with no issues just normal maintenance. N54 always had vanos issues, water pump failures , manifold issues list goes on. Unless the n54 got more reliable as to the likes of the n55/s55 it wouldn't stand a chance at holding 800 hp for more than a few pulls on stock block. And he'll n55 can't even make 600 hp on stock block so yea man. Yes it's older tech but there's a reason the 2j is the inline 6 king . Barra comes in close 2nd and n54 might tie 3rd with the rb26 :p
You should change that gtx to Holset!
Lol no
3000 hp power
Ten second pass is light wieght work
Breather hose awfully close to the timing belt
Well spotted. Still has a bit of a way to go to clean everything up. Will get there soon I hope :)
its missing a TOYOTA decal
Love it but 847 rwhp and your not racing it? You don't think that's a bit too much for a street car?
What the fuck can you do with this on the STREET???????????
Destroy tyres? 😂
Hubs not at the wheels, on a roller it will make less power.
Yep
Street FX Motorsport TV That said hub dyno is way better for accuracy and finer tuning, not to take anything away from the Supra! Love your vids btw
I prefer hub dyno, for those reasons. I always find myself saying “whp” instead of “hub”. Probably cos people generally have nfi what that means, but they know the abbreviation “rwhp” or “whp”. I know it’s technically incorrect though 😳
Street FX Motorsport TV No i see your point, i say hub and most people have a blank look haha i should just say rwhp and be done with it instead of explaining the differences and why one is better then the other lol
ahah that's part of why I have gotten into the (bad) habit of referring to everything as whp. Plus of course it sounds better ;)
At the end of the day though, most people should understand that every dyno, whether roller, hub or engine, will yield different results, and they should only be honestly compared to results on the same dyno at the same shop.