A full deep dive into the Batman Villain Professor Pyg. #comics #content #explained #explore #new #dc #dccomics #batman #joker#nightwing#robin #professorpyg
And the thing is he's not scary because of what he can do to Batman, which is nothing, but what he does to other normal people. Stuff of nightmares, I tell ya.
I think what makes Pyg so terrifying is the fact that he doesn't want to kill you. He wants to keep you alive and remove everything you are. I think almost anyone would find this to be more terrifying than death.
@@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943his mind is beyond twisted He doesn’t know what’s right or wrong He probably thinks batman is a horrible villain while the joker is a good guy
I'd argue that he's not realistic so much as he's better at giving the *appearance* of realism. The closest real-world parallel to Pyg would be people like eugenicists - Nazi doctors are the most obvious example, but don't think for even a second that the United States was innocent. The thing is that *those* doctors were totally sane, and worked entirely within the confines of the law.
@@somerando925 Well you could live in a forest for free and I would rather get eaten by bear or goared to death by a boar than whatever the fuck is happening in Gotham
How? Batman chooses not to kill them. Doesn't mean Gotham can't decide to have a death penalty. How come batman always gets criticised for a no kill rule but Gotham itself doesn't for not killing them? Man's just following his own moral code. The justice department in Gotham look at these guys and go, "yeah they should stay alive".
I love how everyone forgets at the end of the day batman IS a fucking illegal vigilante working with Gordon or no at the end of the day he’s not an official law officer so yes he’s not responsible for killing and really can’t and shouldn’t it’s not up to him he brings em in if he starts killing them sheesh that’s just too far he’s no better then joker at that point frankly
@@foxfairchild2458I find it ironic that Batman has a war on crime, while being an illegal vigilante. Like does he think he’s an exception to his own rule? That somehow it’s fine when he’s a criminal bc it’s for his righteous cause but every other criminal? They are Either gonna wind up eating from a tube or get sent through Arkham “revolving door” asylum. As much as I like Batman, I honestly think he should have used his money as a billionaire to ya know, invest in the city and foster an environment where normal people aren’t turned into henchmen bc that’s what they gotta do to make it. That would have done more actual good than his little one man(+ several kids and Alfred, the goat) war ever did. That being said this is a comic, so plot needs to be a thing and I can definitely say watching a dude in a bat suit running a whole cities fade
I think the reason why Pyg is low on the radar is because he's more or less just a serial killer, looking for specific victims while hiding from public eye. What makes Joker much scarier is the fact is that he's got no issue being in the spotlight.
@@devilhunterred Um... Hate to break it to you, but they already had him in Beware the Batman. Pyg was one of the main villains. Not to mention the TV series Gotham, where Pyg turned homeless people into meat pies.
Voice Actors in Arkham games are on another level. Hearing audio logs and phone calls of Zsasz always sent shivers down my spine. The pure enjoyment in his voice as he remember every kill and every scar he's taken on himself is... brutal, I dunno. It feels like a primal fear for me.
I know there's a lot of issues with arkham knight but Troy baker snapped his back in half by carrying the whole thing with his voice performance. I saw a clip of someone taking too long to rescue the Jason hallucination made me sick to my stomach. I literally watched the collector, which is a horror movie similar to saw, with nightmare scenarios and Troy bakers voice acting left more of an impact than anything in that movie. And if you've seen it, that says a lot.
@@sadgirlhours4088 i know you made this comment a month ago but i disagree. Not that he did a good job, because while i didn't like the Arkham Knight much as a character and i personally prefer Jensen Ackles' take on the voice and character, he did a really good job as he always does in any role. But i disagree that he carried it. That implies the other actors weren't doing a good job, or that only his performance made it a good game. Jim Gordon's actor, forget his name but he's Mike in Breaking Bad, did an incredible job. Kevin Conroy of course was phenomenal as Batman. Mark Hamill gave a great performance as the Joker, again, par for the course. And there's more, but i won't go on. Wasn't my favourite out of the 3 games (except for gameplay) and i feel had the weakest story, but the voice acting was on fucking point. I mean listen to Pyg in those audio tapes in this video. Idek who that voice actor is but he worked his ass off for a side character that you only interact with in a single short fight at the end of a mission. Yet he put his heart and soul into it just to capture the character well. Don't insult the other actors by saying Troy Baker carried it cause it's just not true.
@mattcallanan6627 I think I was saying that the voice acting carried the character. But like.... girl not Jensen Ackles that's the supernatural guy 😭😭 I heard some of it and it was pretty bad Edit: Oh wait no I was saying that lol. Idk I still stand by my opinion on that. I'm not discrediting any other voice actors. The VAs in the arkham games are all incredible and they all did fantastic work on the game. But I just think that Troy baker was on a whole other level. My guess is because Jason is supposed to be the emotional crutch of the story, whether you care about his character or not. Plus the situations he was in - crying, being tortured, being a 20 something year old who has the emotional intelligence of a teenager - require you to be perfect or you break emmersion. I've seen a lot of scenes get ruined when someone can't pretend to cry. Again, no intention to discredit anyone but he had a stand out performance because of the realism to the performance. I'm so used to really emotional cutscenes get ruined by ok voice acting and when it doesn't happen I'm like, gah damn
Joker isn't actually insane, he knows the difference between right and wrong and knows that what he does is utterly horrifying. There's even a comic where he says 'I'm not mad at all. I'm just differently sane'
In gotham knight he throws dozens of cleavers at you, but he didn't expect a fight, those are his surgery tools And he throws them very accurately, like he's had practice. LOTS of practice.
*I hope that Brave and The Bold* involves Professor Pyg as the main villain.. could have Damian believe he’s seen it all as Robin - then sees the depravity of his father’s rogues gallery and both questions and respects how his father can do it night after night
Not gonna happen. Brave And The Bold is going to be their attempt at a 'fun and lighthearted' Batman movie to set up their rebooted DC universe. There's no place for a villain like Pyg in that sort of movie.
@@tommyfishhouse8050 never know, I just want a good Batman movie that doesn’t ruin the character and also embraces the comics with some crazy villains in there and of course the Batfamily’s gotta be there
Professor Pyg is one of the few Batman villains to actually be insane. He has absolutely no grasp on reality and can't distinguish right from wrong. He's far sicker than the Joker or other villains. But in a way, that makes him less evil but, at the same time, more dangerous. That being said, it cannot be overstated what kind of a brilliant voice actor Dwight Schultz is. It is extremely difficult to sound genuinely insane, shifting your voice like that mid-sentence, mid-word even, while talking absolute nonsense.
When you look at the Joker, sometimes you can't tell whether he's actually mad or perhaps the only sane person in a mad world. But when you look at Pyg, you *know* he's absolutely off his rocker. Despite how abject and repulsive his actions are, I struggle to even call him "evil" because I don't think the man has even the most basic understanding of morality. He exists on a completely separate wavelength from the rest of the world, with thought processes that must make sense in his own little reality, but are absolutely alien to us.
I think a big element of Professor Pyg's horror is the way his madness is depicted, specially in the comic shown. Where characters like Two-Face, Scarecrow or The Mad Hatter have adopted a persona, and everything they do is thematically entuned with a specific aesthetic and role, Pyg is incongruent and disorganized. He's a mad scientist obsessed with perfection, but he also oinks and pisses himself. His rambling doesn't make sense, not just because its amoral or not thought enough, but in the way that they can jump from point A to point B with no clear connection. It's one of the most realistic depictions of mental decay, and that makes it terrifying. Also, the body-horror and lobotomization help.
Yeah but the "incongruent and disorganized" part of him is why he is kind of a pointless character. Like what other stories are you going to tell with Pyg, that dont ultimately boil down to "gonna kidnap people and turn them into abominations". If your answer is "well it can be anything, hes an amoral maniac", then you have just written Joker in a pig mask. Pyg only being obsessed with perfection, but also being way too mentally unstable makes him too much of an one-off character. Once he is detained, he shouldnt have the mental faculties to escape imprisonment. He would need someone to break him out. And once he is out, he is far too easy to detain because he is not a threat to Batman. There is very little you can do with a character like that, that you couldnt do with an existing character in Batmans rogues gallery. And because he doesnt really have a strong theming outside of wearing a pig mask, why would you ever pick him as your foil when you can pull more thematically interesting and stronger characters to use? (Unless you wrote Pyg, and hes "your" character so you continue to push him).
I think you might be forgetting about Sasha’s return presence at the end of Volume four. So we do actually get a follow up answer as to her fate after she leaves Gotham and her “face” shrivels up and falls of. She is indeed scarred underneath forever, but the dollotron mask doesn’t seem to take with her. I’ve always been confused as to why that is. Perhaps because she never suffered a lobotomy so her consciousness was rejecting the false organ much like a body rejecting a transplant, since it conflicted her internal perception.
This is so underrated. I'm so glad someone finally talking about Pyg. I was terrified when I played Batman Arkham Knight first time. This mission was SO interesting and intrigueing i just keept thinking what the hell is going on when at the same time shitting myself a little bit. Please I need more of this kind of content. We love creepy stuff. Give us more of the worst in Gotham. Give us more nightmare fuel. I bet this gonna be popular as hell and so fun to watch. It's interesting asf. I wish this video to be longer.
You really skimmed Pyg's origin. After getting infected by his drugs at British Intelligence, he was captured by rival spy origination SPYRAL under Dr. Daedalus' orders and handed over to Talia al Ghul who tortured him further into insanity. After escaping, Lazlo joined a circus freak show where he specialized in genital mutilation. Dr. Simon Hurt found him and convinced the nut to become a costume mob boss and take over th circus. And all this was from his creator Grant Morrison. I loved this run but Grant could have made some things more simple.
Those should be his origin, pyg a plastic surgeon that was fired after suggesting a lobotomy would cure autism or something. He then went on to practice the surgery on his room mate who was turned into the perfect roommate till they died. He then continued practising on homeless people. Or criminals because they can't go to a hospital.
@@daraghokane4236 I don't really like the plastic surgery angle. Since Pyg is obsessed with his psycho version of perfection then go all in on that: Perfect criminals, perfect cops, perfect butcher shop, but everything comes off like it's from American McGee's Alice.
@@daraghokane4236 I prefer that he was a brilliant neurosurgeon or scientist, but had a psychotic nervous break from reality in part due to his horrific relationship with his mother, and it's caused his persona
@@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 na he doesn't need a tragic backstory the doctors that did lobotomisez didn't have tragic origins they thought being lobotomisez is better then being gay autistic violent etc anything. He should be the doctor that linked ten eyed man's eyes to his fingers.
@@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 seriously is there anybody in dc comics without a tragic backstory? Good or baf Somebody with a happy childhood that still decided to go out and do something
professor pyg just..fascinates me. hes fictional but he could very much become real within the blink of an eye. of course dollotrons definitely wouldnt work but everything else about him is so incredibly real
The thing about the joker is he’s psychotic, but self aware and intelligent . He knows what he’s doing is wrong and does not have any delusions about his motives . He can be reasoned with and his shown to have empathy with the downtrodden and mistreated like the disabled and abused . That’s why villains like pyg come across scarier cos there’s no humanity or logic to their actions
FYI - what you described was a transorbital lobotomy. There's a myriad types of lobotomy, some more disturbing (at least to me), and the entire thing is as fascinating as each one is complete ascientific bunkham.
Popularized by Walter Jackson Freeman, a guy who didn't care even a little bit about anyone except himself. Surgery was a performance with him as the star, which is why he would brag so much about how fast he was and do insane things like two lobotomies at the same time. Before him lobotomies were used sparingly as a last resort for the "incurably insane". A procedure with risks and considerable side effects, which could be outweighed by the positives. They thought it was a cure for various mental illnesses they didn't know were different things, and it's understandable how they'd think that. Compare a schizophrenic who's screaming about how everyone's a demon trying to trick him so he won't save the world by killing himself, to one who's a bit apathetic but mostly content just doing whatever. The modern, very prevalent, equivalent is overmedication. An excessively high dose of anti-psychotic meds is constantly being used on psych patients, presumably so they'll shut up and be docile. Freeman figures out how to do this stuff quick and easy with a method nicknamed "ice pick lobotomy", and he thinks everyone should acknowledge how awesome of him that was so he starts touring. Medicine was crude back then but this wasn't even medicine, just pure ego. He would do live performances outside the operating theater, which was more of a show back then with spectators from the public and all, house calls, and of course the double lobotomy trick where he performed on two victims at the same time. All the while shouting from the rooftops how quickly and easily he could perform such incredible life saving surgery with the Freeman method! Any negative side effects you may see in the patient will sort themselves out eventually. Just treat them kind of like a child for now and soon they'll be better than ever! That melancholy wife of yours won't complain any more, she'll find the bliss of motherhood more than sustains her. Oh and he also did it to children, the youngest was 4 years old... He spent so much time and effort on his crusade to convince anyone he could that lobotomies using his method was the best treatment for anything, he couldn't be bothered with truth or empathy when he had en empire to build. He also brought before and after pictures. Did he burn all the photos where the after picture wasn't happier looking than the before picture? I don't have any proof but yes of course he did, obviously! Freeman the zealous drive-by lobotomist egomaniac, performing in his very own touring surgery circus, happy to risk anyone else's mind to fuel his own ego
If you look into it, what’s interesting is that transorbital lobotomies can have wildly different effects. For some people it barely seems to change anything while for others it changes them entirely.
@@thechosenone5644 They're anything but an exact science. A lot of transorbital lobotomies were (and are) done by touch, without regard for the simple fact that the physical meat of the brain will have different structures and sizes despite being generally the same organ, and psychosurgery of other kinds is similarly less science than philosophy masquerading as science.
Nah, I still think Joker torture is worse. The pain’s over pretty quick with this guy while Joker often keeps the pain going for ridiculously long amounts of time.
@@alfalldoot6715I think the point was that inevitably these various weirdos (who don't actually have superpowers) would eventually get shot by armed citizens given how many random people they go after, Batman or no Batman.
Joker and Pyg’s horror come from the same place, their inability to be bargained with “some men just want to watch the world burn” but in Jokers case even though he’s insane there have been cases where he works with others or acts “normal” but with Pyg he’s just a force of his own will and no negations or pleading will change his mind.
@@Starry-eyed_Samantha ion care how much the rent and how much a burger cost, ong i ain’t letting a giant “man-bat” and crazy clown ruin my 8 hours of rest.
wow i really like how it show that damian is a child and can make mistakes like any child would he has flaw or used to this was his first time as robin it show he really have change since then and become a person who his father can be proud of
All of Batman’s enemies have some sort of goal, whether it be killing batman, attaining massive wealth or even world domination professor pyg however was just fucking insane and wanted to make “dollotrons”, he didn’t care about Batman he was just crazy
I don't think it's a coincidence that this character was created *one month* after Bioshock released. The similarities between this character and the plastic surgeon Dr. Steinman who is obsessed with perfection are too similar. I know that kind of character probably isn't overly unique, and I'm glad you noticed the similarity yourself, but I find the short time between that game dropping and this character's introduction (granted, a soft introduction) too coincidental to be a simultaneous creation.
@@jordanloux3883 It's notable that his first introduction into the story is essentially just as a background corpse with the claim that he had a "full backstory" that the creators weren't sure would even work. It took *2 years* after this before he'd show up again and, surprise surprise, he's a mad doctor obsessed with perfection via surgery. His actual gimmick that makes him stand out is that he enjoys pain regardless of whether he's receiving it or dealing it out. It's easy to take inspiration from another medium that does a particular character well and essentially place a proto-version of that into a story where before a nobody could have stood in order to expand on it later. Writers do that all the time.
@@jordanloux3883 That's why he only actually shows up as a fleshed-out character 2 years after his first appearance. You can put an introduction "cameo" of a mad doctor into a single panel or two easily without having to go into any detail. You plant the seed, get the character to exist (and thereby the copyright), and figure it out later. Happens all the time.
Professor Pyg is probably the only one of Batman's villains who legitimately creeps me out. And given the number of disturbing and horrifying villains Bats has, you know that is *really saying something.*
I know right if I was batman and I had to kill pyg or joker I'm going with pyg he the most disgusting villain batman came across nothing compared to Joker riddler bane or scarecrow
Pyg is the first villain in Batman's rogue's gallery where I just straight up thought: "This man needs to die." He is the kind of villain you just want dead. It is the level of evil that nobody except the truly deranged can sympathize with or relate to. One could argue that a lot of Batman's rogues deserve the death penalty, but NOBODY would defend Pyg.
I honestly don't know why Gotham City doesn't have the death penalty. Batman's villains aren't crazy. They CLEARLY know what they're doing and don't care
@@taiall I'm not sure if this is Canon but someone told me that the Court of owls purposely keeping criminals from getting the death penalty for some reason. Again not sure if this is Canon or not.
I haven’t watched Gotham all the way through, but I have seen plenty of Beware the Batman, and while Pyg is a fun villain on that show and is voiced really well, he just isn’t Pyg. His motives and crimes are more akin to Poison Ivy of all characters. What I love about the Batman franchise is how versatile the tone can be. The Joker can be a violent serial killer in one adaptation and a wacky comedic relief antagonist in another. This would probably be pretty hard to do with a character like Professor Pyg, but I’m sure there’s got to be some writer out there that can tone done Pyg for younger audiences while still keeping the core of what makes the character so interesting.
I think Professor Pyg's final appearance in that show, where he's kidnapping people and turning them into brainwashed animal/human hybrids, is the closest they get to comic Pyg. They just use that angle and lean in on the body horror and brainwashing aspect. Future State: Batman/Superman does a good job doing that.
Also remember, Joker killed an entire preschool class, and stitched their body parts into a giant quilt so the parents would have to search through it all to find their kids
The secret society being called "spiral" is cool because the saw movies have major themes with both pigs and spirals, even to the point that a spin-off movie got named spiral. The main reason for this is that they both represent rebirth, which is what Jigsaw believes his games do to the people who survive them and i could easily see pyg believing that his dolls are being reborn into a perfect form.
Unpopular opinion. But this is one of my favorite missions in Arkham Knight. I have the Playthru on my channel for the whole mission. I even take time to look around because I love little hints like that and games. I also really love the really dark and macabre stuff from Batman. And this encapsulates the dirty streets of Gotham perfectly. The fact that they keep getting up after you beat them up because they don’t have any pain receptors anymore is just skin crawling. You just want to get rid of him so fast but that’s a good thing. Rocksteady really understood the character. But I don’t think he can be done in the movie correctly. Unless they want to go all out.
Professor Pyg Is an Absolute Monster. A Human Butcher. A Sick Man With No Redemption. A Perfectionist. It's Sad, That Robin Failed To Save Sasha, Which Caused Her To Become a Villain and Hate Him.
Love this video, both great and horrifically good.❤ do you think in the future you can do videos on other villains like merrymaker, Mr bloom, or the victim syndicate?
Weird, later in Nu52 they also introduced Joker's Daughter and it would have made perfect sence if Scarlet became Joker's Daughter instead, considering her fear or her own face could be a reason to wear Joker's face as a mask.
Being fair, it is amazing that professor pyg is able to make a person beautiful, like-remove birthmarks, warts, boils, and other insecurities, he still is a terrible person-but, gotta give credit for his effort.
If you haven't talked about Arkham Knights Mad Hatter yet please do. If anyone decides to finaly put the Mad Hatter in a Batman movie I hope they make him EXACTLY like that one
Scarecrow is scary, sure, but his thing is forcing you to feel fear. What Pyg does is true fear, he doesn't induce you with chemicals to make you afraid, you're afraid because you know what's going to happen
I'd honestly like it if Pyg was Battinson's next villain. Though, Hush would be a good one too because it'll force Bruce to actually care about being Bruce Wayne than being just Batman.
In a city full of killer clowns and scarecrows, Professor Pyg has to be the most disturbing and the most horrific villain for Batman.
I really hope they use him as the main antagonist in The Batman 2.
And the thing is he's not scary because of what he can do to Batman, which is nothing, but what he does to other normal people. Stuff of nightmares, I tell ya.
Pyg👍
@@curadplastic_ass7256 they arent they are using clayface
Brazil in a nutshell
I think what makes Pyg so terrifying is the fact that he doesn't want to kill you. He wants to keep you alive and remove everything you are. I think almost anyone would find this to be more terrifying than death.
And he thinks that's a GOOD thing. He thinks it's HELPING.
Plus He’s More Twisted Than The Joker 0-0
You wish you were dead when he is around
@@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943his mind is beyond twisted
He doesn’t know what’s right or wrong
He probably thinks batman is a horrible villain while the joker is a good guy
@@ahmadmalaki8364 Exactly.
What makes him even more scary is the fact that he's one of the most realistic members of Batman's rogues gallery. Either him or Victor Zsasz.
Both of them are completely off their nuts
Or Brother Blood or Deacon or whatever his name is 😂 the cult guy!
Joker is up there too
@@Antwannnn I think the name you are referring to is Deacon Blackfire
I'd argue that he's not realistic so much as he's better at giving the *appearance* of realism.
The closest real-world parallel to Pyg would be people like eugenicists - Nazi doctors are the most obvious example, but don't think for even a second that the United States was innocent.
The thing is that *those* doctors were totally sane, and worked entirely within the confines of the law.
At this point, why does anyone still live in Gotham
Guys this was 3 months ago, this question really ain’t that deep, it’s a joke
Cause 50 bucks a month for a 3 bed 2 bath apartment is an amazing deal
@@somerando925 Well you could live in a forest for free and I would rather get eaten by bear or goared to death by a boar than whatever the fuck is happening in Gotham
It's better to move to north korea at that point.
@@RixesPuffs Honestly Gotham seems kinda better
@@RixesPuffs North Korea?
“You just redefined ‘wrong’”
I no longer hate Damian
Idk man i still do, but no longer that much
I still do, just because someone is worse than him doesn’t make him any better or more likable
With people like pig running around you start to see how batmans no kill rule has hurt gotham
Pyg perfectly describes why Red Hood is necessary.
@@concept5631 Nah man.... Alfred
How? Batman chooses not to kill them. Doesn't mean Gotham can't decide to have a death penalty. How come batman always gets criticised for a no kill rule but Gotham itself doesn't for not killing them? Man's just following his own moral code. The justice department in Gotham look at these guys and go, "yeah they should stay alive".
I love how everyone forgets at the end of the day batman IS a fucking illegal vigilante working with Gordon or no at the end of the day he’s not an official law officer so yes he’s not responsible for killing and really can’t and shouldn’t it’s not up to him he brings em in if he starts killing them sheesh that’s just too far he’s no better then joker at that point frankly
@@foxfairchild2458I find it ironic that Batman has a war on crime, while being an illegal vigilante.
Like does he think he’s an exception to his own rule? That somehow it’s fine when he’s a criminal bc it’s for his righteous cause but every other criminal? They are Either gonna wind up eating from a tube or get sent through Arkham “revolving door” asylum.
As much as I like Batman, I honestly think he should have used his money as a billionaire to ya know, invest in the city and foster an environment where normal people aren’t turned into henchmen bc that’s what they gotta do to make it. That would have done more actual good than his little one man(+ several kids and Alfred, the goat) war ever did.
That being said this is a comic, so plot needs to be a thing and I can definitely say watching a dude in a bat suit running a whole cities fade
I think the reason why Pyg is low on the radar is because he's more or less just a serial killer, looking for specific victims while hiding from public eye. What makes Joker much scarier is the fact is that he's got no issue being in the spotlight.
yeah, but i'd rather be Jokers hostage than Pyg's next subject because at least i have a better chance at being saved from Joker.
@@twdl_png755Joker would just wait for Bats
No, because Warner Bros can never make movie or animation with Pyg as the villain fighting Batman. It'd be R-rated.
@@devilhunterred Um... Hate to break it to you, but they already had him in Beware the Batman. Pyg was one of the main villains.
Not to mention the TV series Gotham, where Pyg turned homeless people into meat pies.
@@devilhunterredhopefully he is the main villain for the Batman part 2
Pyg busting it down is something I could have never imagined in a million years
BUT IS HE GOATED WITH THE SAUCE
He kinda bad tho-
Voice Actors in Arkham games are on another level.
Hearing audio logs and phone calls of Zsasz always sent shivers down my spine.
The pure enjoyment in his voice as he remember every kill and every scar he's taken on himself is... brutal, I dunno. It feels like a primal fear for me.
I know there's a lot of issues with arkham knight but Troy baker snapped his back in half by carrying the whole thing with his voice performance. I saw a clip of someone taking too long to rescue the Jason hallucination made me sick to my stomach. I literally watched the collector, which is a horror movie similar to saw, with nightmare scenarios and Troy bakers voice acting left more of an impact than anything in that movie. And if you've seen it, that says a lot.
@@sadgirlhours4088 i know you made this comment a month ago but i disagree. Not that he did a good job, because while i didn't like the Arkham Knight much as a character and i personally prefer Jensen Ackles' take on the voice and character, he did a really good job as he always does in any role.
But i disagree that he carried it. That implies the other actors weren't doing a good job, or that only his performance made it a good game. Jim Gordon's actor, forget his name but he's Mike in Breaking Bad, did an incredible job. Kevin Conroy of course was phenomenal as Batman. Mark Hamill gave a great performance as the Joker, again, par for the course. And there's more, but i won't go on.
Wasn't my favourite out of the 3 games (except for gameplay) and i feel had the weakest story, but the voice acting was on fucking point. I mean listen to Pyg in those audio tapes in this video. Idek who that voice actor is but he worked his ass off for a side character that you only interact with in a single short fight at the end of a mission. Yet he put his heart and soul into it just to capture the character well. Don't insult the other actors by saying Troy Baker carried it cause it's just not true.
@mattcallanan6627 I think I was saying that the voice acting carried the character. But like.... girl not Jensen Ackles that's the supernatural guy 😭😭 I heard some of it and it was pretty bad
Edit: Oh wait no I was saying that lol. Idk I still stand by my opinion on that. I'm not discrediting any other voice actors. The VAs in the arkham games are all incredible and they all did fantastic work on the game. But I just think that Troy baker was on a whole other level. My guess is because Jason is supposed to be the emotional crutch of the story, whether you care about his character or not. Plus the situations he was in - crying, being tortured, being a 20 something year old who has the emotional intelligence of a teenager - require you to be perfect or you break emmersion. I've seen a lot of scenes get ruined when someone can't pretend to cry. Again, no intention to discredit anyone but he had a stand out performance because of the realism to the performance. I'm so used to really emotional cutscenes get ruined by ok voice acting and when it doesn't happen I'm like, gah damn
Joker isn't actually insane, he knows the difference between right and wrong and knows that what he does is utterly horrifying. There's even a comic where he says 'I'm not mad at all. I'm just differently sane'
bruv did you forget what he did to Barbara Gordon in that one comic and movie😅
@@Mr.J.M.V.P yes, differently sane
@@Mr.J.M.V.P He knew it was wrong. He's just a terrible person and didn't care
Differently sane? Maybe he's autistic. Except, if autism were on a scale of 0-100, Joker would be firmly at 10,000+.
Nigga here really tries to tell us that the killer guy who keeps doing worse and worse things is not actually insane.
I think Alfred summed up Professor Pyg best when he said that, “the man is clearly unhinged, even by Gotham standards.”
The carnival Pyg used as his hideaway in his first story was actually the same one the Joker used during The Killing Joke.
God that was just bad fate for him.
In gotham knight he throws dozens of cleavers at you, but he didn't expect a fight, those are his surgery tools
And he throws them very accurately, like he's had practice. LOTS of practice.
The bio for him says he's an amateur knife thrower, I think
Probably throwing at “creations “ he deemed to ugly
Batman Arkham Knight
*I hope that Brave and The Bold* involves Professor Pyg as the main villain.. could have Damian believe he’s seen it all as Robin - then sees the depravity of his father’s rogues gallery and both questions and respects how his father can do it night after night
Not gonna happen. Brave And The Bold is going to be their attempt at a 'fun and lighthearted' Batman movie to set up their rebooted DC universe. There's no place for a villain like Pyg in that sort of movie.
@@tommyfishhouse8050 never know, I just want a good Batman movie that doesn’t ruin the character and also embraces the comics with some crazy villains in there and of course the Batfamily’s gotta be there
@@tommyfishhouse8050 Imagine the movie starting as another episode of Batman's 1960s series with Robin, and suddenly Pyg appears
@@Nae_exfucking cool
@@Nae_exThat sounds really Awsome.
Professor Pyg is one of the few Batman villains to actually be insane. He has absolutely no grasp on reality and can't distinguish right from wrong. He's far sicker than the Joker or other villains. But in a way, that makes him less evil but, at the same time, more dangerous.
That being said, it cannot be overstated what kind of a brilliant voice actor Dwight Schultz is. It is extremely difficult to sound genuinely insane, shifting your voice like that mid-sentence, mid-word even, while talking absolute nonsense.
When you look at the Joker, sometimes you can't tell whether he's actually mad or perhaps the only sane person in a mad world. But when you look at Pyg, you *know* he's absolutely off his rocker. Despite how abject and repulsive his actions are, I struggle to even call him "evil" because I don't think the man has even the most basic understanding of morality. He exists on a completely separate wavelength from the rest of the world, with thought processes that must make sense in his own little reality, but are absolutely alien to us.
He is such a horrific, terrible person, but I can't help but laugh at him busting it down on the dance floor in front of Robin.
4:12
He said gg like he accepted his fate.
Bro you're wrong for that lmfaooooooooo
My nigga-
I think a big element of Professor Pyg's horror is the way his madness is depicted, specially in the comic shown.
Where characters like Two-Face, Scarecrow or The Mad Hatter have adopted a persona, and everything they do is thematically entuned with a specific aesthetic and role, Pyg is incongruent and disorganized. He's a mad scientist obsessed with perfection, but he also oinks and pisses himself. His rambling doesn't make sense, not just because its amoral or not thought enough, but in the way that they can jump from point A to point B with no clear connection. It's one of the most realistic depictions of mental decay, and that makes it terrifying.
Also, the body-horror and lobotomization help.
That's a very well articulated interpretation my freind, I couldn't agree more
The body horror and lobotomization don't help shi
He doesn't piss himself, it's his shadow, you can see the outline.
Yeah but the "incongruent and disorganized" part of him is why he is kind of a pointless character.
Like what other stories are you going to tell with Pyg, that dont ultimately boil down to "gonna kidnap people and turn them into abominations".
If your answer is "well it can be anything, hes an amoral maniac", then you have just written Joker in a pig mask.
Pyg only being obsessed with perfection, but also being way too mentally unstable makes him too much of an one-off character. Once he is detained, he shouldnt have the mental faculties to escape imprisonment. He would need someone to break him out. And once he is out, he is far too easy to detain because he is not a threat to Batman.
There is very little you can do with a character like that, that you couldnt do with an existing character in Batmans rogues gallery. And because he doesnt really have a strong theming outside of wearing a pig mask, why would you ever pick him as your foil when you can pull more thematically interesting and stronger characters to use? (Unless you wrote Pyg, and hes "your" character so you continue to push him).
Man I think it woulda been interesting if you did a video on the community voted “least scary” villain proving why they’re so heinous
is that voting out already? whos the least scary villain? crazy quilt?
It definitely wouldn't be The Wall or Big Wheel.
@youssefbencheikh8637 Yeah cause those are Spider-man villains
@@lloopybooklol
I think you might be forgetting about Sasha’s return presence at the end of Volume four. So we do actually get a follow up answer as to her fate after she leaves Gotham and her “face” shrivels up and falls of. She is indeed scarred underneath forever, but the dollotron mask doesn’t seem to take with her. I’ve always been confused as to why that is.
Perhaps because she never suffered a lobotomy so her consciousness was rejecting the false organ much like a body rejecting a transplant, since it conflicted her internal perception.
This is so underrated.
I'm so glad someone finally talking about Pyg.
I was terrified when I played Batman Arkham Knight first time.
This mission was SO interesting and intrigueing i just keept thinking what the hell is going on when at the same time shitting myself a little bit.
Please I need more of this kind of content.
We love creepy stuff.
Give us more of the worst in Gotham.
Give us more nightmare fuel.
I bet this gonna be popular as hell and so fun to watch.
It's interesting asf.
I wish this video to be longer.
Well said
u shit urself r u a baby
You know pyg is a fucked up villan when EVEN the joker call him much more insane then him
Alfred: This man is unhinged even by Gotham standards.
Only other villain that was scarier than joker was carnage. But pyg is scary
You really skimmed Pyg's origin. After getting infected by his drugs at British Intelligence, he was captured by rival spy origination SPYRAL under Dr. Daedalus' orders and handed over to Talia al Ghul who tortured him further into insanity. After escaping, Lazlo joined a circus freak show where he specialized in genital mutilation. Dr. Simon Hurt found him and convinced the nut to become a costume mob boss and take over th circus.
And all this was from his creator Grant Morrison. I loved this run but Grant could have made some things more simple.
Those should be his origin, pyg a plastic surgeon that was fired after suggesting a lobotomy would cure autism or something. He then went on to practice the surgery on his room mate who was turned into the perfect roommate till they died. He then continued practising on homeless people. Or criminals because they can't go to a hospital.
@@daraghokane4236 I don't really like the plastic surgery angle. Since Pyg is obsessed with his psycho version of perfection then go all in on that: Perfect criminals, perfect cops, perfect butcher shop, but everything comes off like it's from American McGee's Alice.
@@daraghokane4236 I prefer that he was a brilliant neurosurgeon or scientist, but had a psychotic nervous break from reality in part due to his horrific relationship with his mother, and it's caused his persona
@@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 na he doesn't need a tragic backstory the doctors that did lobotomisez didn't have tragic origins they thought being lobotomisez is better then being gay autistic violent etc anything. He should be the doctor that linked ten eyed man's eyes to his fingers.
@@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 seriously is there anybody in dc comics without a tragic backstory? Good or baf Somebody with a happy childhood that still decided to go out and do something
professor pyg just..fascinates me. hes fictional but he could very much become real within the blink of an eye. of course dollotrons definitely wouldnt work but everything else about him is so incredibly real
The thing about the joker is he’s psychotic, but self aware and intelligent . He knows what he’s doing is wrong and does not have any delusions about his motives . He can be reasoned with and his shown to have empathy with the downtrodden and mistreated like the disabled and abused . That’s why villains like pyg come across scarier cos there’s no humanity or logic to their actions
see when you get villains like that you don't call batman you call spawn
"I'm an Artist how am I supposed to work on ant-psychotics?!?!"
Bros turning into kanye fr fr
FYI - what you described was a transorbital lobotomy. There's a myriad types of lobotomy, some more disturbing (at least to me), and the entire thing is as fascinating as each one is complete ascientific bunkham.
Popularized by Walter Jackson Freeman, a guy who didn't care even a little bit about anyone except himself. Surgery was a performance with him as the star, which is why he would brag so much about how fast he was and do insane things like two lobotomies at the same time.
Before him lobotomies were used sparingly as a last resort for the "incurably insane". A procedure with risks and considerable side effects, which could be outweighed by the positives.
They thought it was a cure for various mental illnesses they didn't know were different things, and it's understandable how they'd think that.
Compare a schizophrenic who's screaming about how everyone's a demon trying to trick him so he won't save the world by killing himself, to one who's a bit apathetic but mostly content just doing whatever.
The modern, very prevalent, equivalent is overmedication. An excessively high dose of anti-psychotic meds is constantly being used on psych patients, presumably so they'll shut up and be docile.
Freeman figures out how to do this stuff quick and easy with a method nicknamed "ice pick lobotomy", and he thinks everyone should acknowledge how awesome of him that was so he starts touring. Medicine was crude back then but this wasn't even medicine, just pure ego.
He would do live performances outside the operating theater, which was more of a show back then with spectators from the public and all, house calls, and of course the double lobotomy trick where he performed on two victims at the same time.
All the while shouting from the rooftops how quickly and easily he could perform such incredible life saving surgery with the Freeman method! Any negative side effects you may see in the patient will sort themselves out eventually. Just treat them kind of like a child for now and soon they'll be better than ever!
That melancholy wife of yours won't complain any more, she'll find the bliss of motherhood more than sustains her.
Oh and he also did it to children, the youngest was 4 years old...
He spent so much time and effort on his crusade to convince anyone he could that lobotomies using his method was the best treatment for anything, he couldn't be bothered with truth or empathy when he had en empire to build. He also brought before and after pictures. Did he burn all the photos where the after picture wasn't happier looking than the before picture? I don't have any proof but yes of course he did, obviously!
Freeman the zealous drive-by lobotomist egomaniac, performing in his very own touring surgery circus, happy to risk anyone else's mind to fuel his own ego
@@WlatPziupp The real history of mental health abuses is *miles* more horrifying than anything comics can think up.
If you look into it, what’s interesting is that transorbital lobotomies can have wildly different effects. For some people it barely seems to change anything while for others it changes them entirely.
@@thechosenone5644 They're anything but an exact science. A lot of transorbital lobotomies were (and are) done by touch, without regard for the simple fact that the physical meat of the brain will have different structures and sizes despite being generally the same organ, and psychosurgery of other kinds is similarly less science than philosophy masquerading as science.
yeah there are a surprising amount lobotomies
What makes that guy scary is that there are people like that out there.
Okay. Joker is insane, sure, but honestly if i was one of pyg's victims i'd see jokers "torture" as heaven compared to this bastard's torture.
Joker is fun insane. Pyg is diagnosable insane.
Nah, I still think Joker torture is worse. The pain’s over pretty quick with this guy while Joker often keeps the pain going for ridiculously long amounts of time.
Movie studios: we need more batman movies w/ joker!!
Me: no we need a movie w/ Pyg
NO
I would never sleep ever again.
Does Gotham have gun control? Because most of these villains would be killed by the time Batman put his hands on them.
Well, Batman doesn't like using guns regardless of the laws on them, let alone killing people at all.
@@alfalldoot6715I think the point was that inevitably these various weirdos (who don't actually have superpowers) would eventually get shot by armed citizens given how many random people they go after, Batman or no Batman.
For someone who loves perfection, he is so IMPERFECT.
Idk man he is kinda hot
Edit: did. I. Stutter
@@Knockoffedd4581 Woah 😶📸
@@Knockoffedd4581 I agree with you, that man's got the CAKE Goods, the entire bakery!
@@Knockoffedd4581 find god
@@Elvis.D99 hes CAKED man
Professor Pyg is Batman's dark and twisted mirror image because they both are obsessed with perfection in their own way
Could you elaborate on that? I'm curious for the details
Honestly, I love the Arkham Knight interpretation of Pyg
Joker and Pyg’s horror come from the same place, their inability to be bargained with “some men just want to watch the world burn” but in Jokers case even though he’s insane there have been cases where he works with others or acts “normal” but with Pyg he’s just a force of his own will and no negations or pleading will change his mind.
I can’t lie, why the hell would anyone live in Gotham😭😭
It's a fun place 😁
Cheaper living-?
@@Starry-eyed_Samantha ion care how much the rent and how much a burger cost, ong i ain’t letting a giant “man-bat” and crazy clown ruin my 8 hours of rest.
I can't get over the fact that the voice of mung daal from chowder voiced professor pyg in arkham knight
Joker: "I fear no man....but that thing..."
Pyg: "REEEEEEEEE *Oink**Oink*"
Joker: "It _Scares_ me."
wow i really like how it show that damian is a child and can make mistakes like any child would he has flaw or used to this was his first time as robin it show he really have change since then and become a person who his father can be proud of
Professor Pyg is one of my favorite Villains.
Creepy
I’ve always said villains like Professor Pyg, Dollmaker and Mr Zsasz could all have horror movies of their own.
Zasz would be perfect for The Batman 2 as he's just an unrepentant serial killer. His only quirk is that he carves tally marks for each victim.
And the the joker too
Professor pyg really freaked me out especially in appearance.
All of Batman’s enemies have some sort of goal, whether it be killing batman, attaining massive wealth or even world domination professor pyg however was just fucking insane and wanted to make “dollotrons”, he didn’t care about Batman he was just crazy
This guy was portrayed so well in gotham
For real
Not in the slightest, he's a surgical maniac, not a cannibalistic anti-hero
That is true I still think he looked creepy and it was pretty cool to see him
I don't think it's a coincidence that this character was created *one month* after Bioshock released. The similarities between this character and the plastic surgeon Dr. Steinman who is obsessed with perfection are too similar. I know that kind of character probably isn't overly unique, and I'm glad you noticed the similarity yourself, but I find the short time between that game dropping and this character's introduction (granted, a soft introduction) too coincidental to be a simultaneous creation.
Nah, crafting comics storylines (and getting them approved at all) like this can take months or years. Plus evil surgeons are nothing new.
@@jordanloux3883 It's notable that his first introduction into the story is essentially just as a background corpse with the claim that he had a "full backstory" that the creators weren't sure would even work. It took *2 years* after this before he'd show up again and, surprise surprise, he's a mad doctor obsessed with perfection via surgery. His actual gimmick that makes him stand out is that he enjoys pain regardless of whether he's receiving it or dealing it out.
It's easy to take inspiration from another medium that does a particular character well and essentially place a proto-version of that into a story where before a nobody could have stood in order to expand on it later. Writers do that all the time.
@@ForeverLaxx But it takes longer than a month to plan a comic arc is a point.
@@jordanloux3883 That's why he only actually shows up as a fleshed-out character 2 years after his first appearance. You can put an introduction "cameo" of a mad doctor into a single panel or two easily without having to go into any detail. You plant the seed, get the character to exist (and thereby the copyright), and figure it out later.
Happens all the time.
The concept of an evil surgeon experimenting on his patients is nothing new, even in Batman.
"You just redefined "wrong"" was such a good line
Professor Pyg is probably the only one of Batman's villains who legitimately creeps me out. And given the number of disturbing and horrifying villains Bats has, you know that is *really saying something.*
Not Gonna Lie To You When I Read This Comic I Think Professor Pyg was a Little Scary at First!😮
No shit
@@KaihnhbvcxNot a farmer
What's with the rampant capitalisation?
It's insane that Batman is considered a great hero when thousands are affected yearly because of Batman being unable to murder psychos like these.
I know right if I was batman and I had to kill pyg or joker I'm going with pyg he the most disgusting villain batman came across nothing compared to Joker riddler bane or scarecrow
Pyg is the first villain in Batman's rogue's gallery where I just straight up thought: "This man needs to die."
He is the kind of villain you just want dead. It is the level of evil that nobody except the truly deranged can sympathize with or relate to.
One could argue that a lot of Batman's rogues deserve the death penalty, but NOBODY would defend Pyg.
The moment he used the phrase "down the rabbit hole..." my immediate reaction was "No, that's Mad Hatter's thing."
I honestly don't know why Gotham City doesn't have the death penalty. Batman's villains aren't crazy. They CLEARLY know what they're doing and don't care
The Court of owls is why.
@@GreenDude_Gaming what do they have to do with this?
@@taiall I'm not sure if this is Canon but someone told me that the Court of owls purposely keeping criminals from getting the death penalty for some reason. Again not sure if this is Canon or not.
Gotham is based on new York they don't have a death penalty
@@daraghokane4236 I thought Metropolis was New York, and Gotham would be Chicago
Professor Pyg is easily one of my favourite Batman-villains. Psycologically he's equally fascinating to me as Joker or riddler, perhaps even more so
Batman punching the everloving hell out of Pyg and breaking his mask is easily the best part of Arkham Knight.
I haven’t watched Gotham all the way through, but I have seen plenty of Beware the Batman, and while Pyg is a fun villain on that show and is voiced really well, he just isn’t Pyg. His motives and crimes are more akin to Poison Ivy of all characters. What I love about the Batman franchise is how versatile the tone can be. The Joker can be a violent serial killer in one adaptation and a wacky comedic relief antagonist in another. This would probably be pretty hard to do with a character like Professor Pyg, but I’m sure there’s got to be some writer out there that can tone done Pyg for younger audiences while still keeping the core of what makes the character so interesting.
I think Professor Pyg's final appearance in that show, where he's kidnapping people and turning them into brainwashed animal/human hybrids, is the closest they get to comic Pyg. They just use that angle and lean in on the body horror and brainwashing aspect. Future State: Batman/Superman does a good job doing that.
That's what I liked about Beware The Batman was they wanted to use the lesser know Batman villains. They just tried to use too many.
Pyg NEEDS to be in Matt reeves Batman.
The Arkham series did him so well tbh
Also remember, Joker killed an entire preschool class, and stitched their body parts into a giant quilt so the parents would have to search through it all to find their kids
I remember reading his first appearance as a kid, shit gave me nightmares.
Nuke Gotham City from orbit for the love of God
No
That would probably only make it worse.
nah cuz who tf actually decides to live in Gotham 💀
There’s Satan. Then there’s Professor Pyg.
The secret society being called "spiral" is cool because the saw movies have major themes with both pigs and spirals, even to the point that a spin-off movie got named spiral. The main reason for this is that they both represent rebirth, which is what Jigsaw believes his games do to the people who survive them and i could easily see pyg believing that his dolls are being reborn into a perfect form.
Pyg is truly the most evil batman character. Joker does what he does because he is mentally unwell. Pyg just does it for his own amusement
Unpopular opinion. But this is one of my favorite missions in Arkham Knight. I have the Playthru on my channel for the whole mission. I even take time to look around because I love little hints like that and games. I also really love the really dark and macabre stuff from Batman. And this encapsulates the dirty streets of Gotham perfectly. The fact that they keep getting up after you beat them up because they don’t have any pain receptors anymore is just skin crawling. You just want to get rid of him so fast but that’s a good thing. Rocksteady really understood the character. But I don’t think he can be done in the movie correctly. Unless they want to go all out.
I remember hearing about this dude in Beware The Bat.
If only I knew what i got myself into...
Pyg was the most terrifying part of arkham knight. Much scarier than man bat imo
I really want him to be in The Batman 2
Maybe as an opening foil.
I mean, Batman does not kill, but why a policemen dont just finish these guys? Where is police brutality on the few cases it would be usefull?
Professor Pyg Is an Absolute Monster. A Human Butcher. A Sick Man With No Redemption. A Perfectionist.
It's Sad, That Robin Failed To Save Sasha, Which Caused Her To Become a Villain and Hate Him.
im so glad this video dropped ive been waiting
Bro gotham is like hell
Im would rather get robed by condimint king then being turned perfect by a guy with a pig mask
Damn pyg got a dumpy.
04:08Man, I love how this guy just embraced his fate and just said GG with honour! What a champ💪💪😎😎
Love this video, both great and horrifically good.❤ do you think in the future you can do videos on other villains like merrymaker, Mr bloom, or the victim syndicate?
I always leave a "Like" anyway, but this video deserved it immediately after the first sentence. Well done!
*Pyg sees me*
Pyg: aw hell naw, nope no perfect parts
Weird, later in Nu52 they also introduced Joker's Daughter and it would have made perfect sence if Scarlet became Joker's Daughter instead, considering her fear or her own face could be a reason to wear Joker's face as a mask.
Wth going on in Gotham 💀💀💀💀
Benevolent is the very last word I'd use to describe anything to do with Scarecrow.
Mullet-Man I didn't need to see professor pyg get low.
On the one hand, cheap rent
On the other, a literal dozen plus different criminal organizations and super villains...
Genuinely disappointed that you didn't talk about him from the Gotham TV show, it's a different interpretation but it was still very impactful
Being fair, it is amazing that professor pyg is able to make a person beautiful, like-remove birthmarks, warts, boils, and other insecurities, he still is a terrible person-but, gotta give credit for his effort.
Pyg is the one villain that i wouldn't mind to let receive the Red Hood treatment.
Pyg got that dumpy on him holy shit.
GOATed video title. Simple and straight to the point, yet ominous and mysterious.
If you haven't talked about Arkham Knights Mad Hatter yet please do. If anyone decides to finaly put the Mad Hatter in a Batman movie I hope they make him EXACTLY like that one
One of the few people the BELONGS in Arkham
Scarecrow is scary, sure, but his thing is forcing you to feel fear. What Pyg does is true fear, he doesn't induce you with chemicals to make you afraid, you're afraid because you know what's going to happen
Pyg is the perfect argument to batmans no kill rule
Bruh dc comics brutal
if this is the Pyg thats going to be in the Batman movie I swear we might be looking at the best super hero solo movies ever.
Damn pyg kinda got some cake
If joker deserve to die pyg deserves to die slowly
Amazing video
I'd honestly like it if Pyg was Battinson's next villain. Though, Hush would be a good one too because it'll force Bruce to actually care about being Bruce Wayne than being just Batman.