@@Zanemob It literally is though. The comic was complete dogshit. Edit: a comic that is predictable and relies on depthless shock value is not fun. It’s boring and redundant. The comic was bad, use your brains for once. If your best arguments for this comic is “I don’t care if it’s poorly written, it’s fun!” Then it’s pretty clear that you don’t even really know why you like it other than that your standards are low. Mary sue edgelords aren’t appealing. Edit: UA-cam deleted my comment even though all I said was “No it’s poorly written garbage.” Edit finale: I think how childishly people are reacting to my comment kinda proves my point. This comic sucks, it’s only appealing to teenagers who don’t know how to handle scrutiny. Insulting me, belittling me, or rejecting my criticism because you don’t agree with me is just immature. Nobody said this comic needed to be complex, so stop with that terrible counter argument, the comic just needs to not be edgy garbage. Nobody said this can’t be fun and I never said you can’t have fun, I’m saying this comic was so predictable and garbage that you could only find it fun if your standards are low. Stop misrepresenting me just because you can’t properly defend this comic.
also they take him to jail and don't even remove his stupid little costume. like yo, you do realize he'd need to be processed before he can be taken to the slammer, right?
In an alternate universe, Nemesis is instead called Pretty Bad Chad who instead of physically and mentally scarring people does petty things to random people.
Especially when they brought him back as "Nemesis 2: Electric Boogaloo", they even used the same name and costume. How uncreative and lazy can you get?
A lot of 3rd-world countries have gangs with literal children as lieutenants, like Kony in Africa and the cartel and Ndraggeta, who often use little kids as hitmen. American gangs use kids to push narcotics. So to have one become well-respected *kinda* isn't too far-fetched.
The thing about nemesis that makes him less of a villain than Griffith to me is how personal it is. Griffith looked at the people he trusted with his life and people he loved and cared for and still made the decision that he did. And the actions he took and continues to take. He's vile, self serving, unwaveringly evil. And it's all because of a grudge. It's one thing to kill a bunch of people you don't know. It's another to kill everyone you ever knew.
hell not even really a grudge and more a narcissitic need for power. Griffith lost control ever guts and his life spiralled out of control and he just HAD to have that back.
@@ombra711what is not to love in edgelord shit, I mean it's good every now and then. It is not like the MCU where it is force fed down our throat at least
@@arcanemelody901 and he’s the worst one by far, in DC there’s a bunch of evil Batmen but outside of dc? Not really, I’m talking guys like The Plutonian and homelander and bright burn
It takes a lot for me to believe a villain is irredeemable. Sex crimes, genocide, that kind of stuff. He is one of few people, along side Doflamingo, Shao Tucker, Johan Liebert, Dio, Griffith, Mahito, Homelander, The Three Vs, The Gorosei, Satō, The Qu, Hiro Shishigami, Sukuna, Ragyō Kiryūin, Micah Bell, AM, Konrad Curze, Skar King and Judge Holden that cannot be redeemed
To my experience, people doesn't really change much, but it's not real life so what the hell. Anime is filled with war criminal edgelords such as Mahito or Orochimaru that are just irredeemable.
You should read my post Griffith is my #q for fiction but in real life it's BTK I was living in wichita ks when shown up for the second time. I was a meat cutter- butcher in Wichita and no joke I had interaction with over half the city, it makes me shudder to think that I actually talked to then man. Dahmer and Gacey were tie for 2nd place.
Mullet-Man Comics: "To me, Nemesis is the most vile fictional villain I've ever read, this guy will do anything- and I mean anything- to get his way...He is so completely irredeemable that at times while reading I felt like I had to take a break and go take a shower, and I haven't felt that much darkness in me that I had to like wash it away since I watched the movie Requiem for a Dream." Also Mullet man Comics: NEMESIS IS BACK BAYBEEEEEEEE!
The comics were released in 2023, not sure if you saw it but one of the lines that Nemesis says is about covid which means it was at least past 2020 and if you search it up they were all released in 2023
@@AngryStickBoi You're wrong and just googled the info. The original nemisis comic, the one where the guy tortures the police chief not the mayor, was released in 2010. Nemesis reloaded came out in 2023
@@AngryStickBoiNawh this came out not long after Kick-Ass. Written but he same guy. I saw it in Golden Apple over 10yrs ago so it’s impossible for it to have come out in 2023
"Makes Griffith look like a good guy." This is a psycho with a gun shooting people. The other is a demon lord turning the world into hell on earth. Respect the ranks.
Yeah, this guy didnt betray his actual long time allies, or r word his only friend's girl, or cause a bunch of demons to invade the world r wording and torturing and killing everyone. Compared to Griffith he's like 10% as evil, and pretty poorly written just for shock value imo.
You're telling me not a *single* person in *ALL* of L.A. would go outside despite the warning of a nuke? You just know there'd be thousands of people willing to take that dare. The entire place would be glass within minuets.
or that... idk... the ENTIRE UN WOULD BE TRYING TO GET NEMESIS? LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE NATION IN THE WORLD WOULD TRY AND CAPTURE HIM BECAUSE FOR ALL WE KNOW HE COULD GO TO ANY OTHER NATION AND WRECK HAVOC IF HE WANTS
@@lorenzoilmagnifico2431in terms of sheer scale of atrocities with psychopathic reasoning? probably not but ive read some manga that really fucked me up way worse than nemesis or the boys that are basically just brainrot comics
@@ir0316 im probably desensitized to physically violent ones at this point but mangas like junji ito's stuff, freak island, hideout, or even some mainstream ones can get pretty violent at times like vinland saga, chainsaw man, AoT, et cetera but they are usually the cool/shock value type of violence most of the time with junji's stuff being the exception as his are usually body horror/grotesque but still making you curious about what'll happen next my personal pick goes to oyasumi punpun tho that one fucked me up badly but also made me appreciate my current circumstances
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Honestly this didn’t even make me disturbed it just made me cringe at how utterly ridiculous it was. Sounds like a fanfic Batman people make in middle school
Yeah I kinda... zoned out after "his daughter got pregnant with his gay son by artificial insemination". Like... okay? He had a lab and a gynecologist implant sperm and... yeah no.
-B-but Nemesis. How did you made the president blow up a children's hospital with a tomato soup bomb that was spoiled 2 years ago while he was wearing a tu-tu vest? -I paid someone.
Man! The art in thoses comics is amazing! The way the heads are constructed in the original and reloaded, is an absolute mastercraft. You can tell the artists have a huge grasp on anatomy and perspective.
It is pretty fun to have a “what if batman but super villain” character, however i feel like if a man successfully killed everyone in the pentagon and kidnapped the president then it wouldn’t be down to one detective to take him down. Literally everyone still alive in us military would converge on Nemesis and probably kill him on site. He’d have no chance of hiding.
Yeah, whenever a character like this is locked up I give up on the story. It's the same reason why I don't like the stories where The Joker is an absolute terrorist, gets locked up, and then is released again, dude would've been killed a long time ago
Probably because of the sheer scale and reach of his crimes. Art is a sadistic serial killer but you've only got to worry about him if you're in the same town as him - this absolute freak is able to steal nukes and bring an entire city to its knees to get what he wants. In all likelihood just being on the same continent as him means you're in the crossfire of whatever crazed plan he has.
But the comic just keeps doing the “I planned for that” thing. It’s clearly a parody of Batman, McGuyver, Bond, etc. that does those kinds of frustrating things that have no narrative flow.
Nemesis feels a bit too 'magical'. He just seems to know how to do everything and is good at everything. Kinda makes the evil he does come off as more comedic. Anyone else get that?
It was written by Mark Miller. He's actualy a good writer when he wants to be, belive it or not, but he somethimes flies off the handles and writes overly edgy stuff like this just to be edgy. This comic is still probably only like a mild 5/10 on his edgometer lol
It was edgy but im sure everyone could think of worse stuff. Theirs probably a limit to which the author could go before it couldn't get published. Like detailed instructions and depictions of rape or mass genocide or sexaul assault for example. Thats 100% more deplorable shit. I would consider this pretty tame and laughable bad at times tbh.
"oh oh OHH and then and THEN he artificially INSEMINATES the TEEN DAUGHTER of the police chief with her BROTHERS SEMEN!!!! But that's not all!!! If she gets an abortion she will never have KIDS again!!!! He made sure of that... somehow. Anyway, isnt that SO MESSED UP???? ...hey, hey where are you going?!"
@@keshi5541Pretty sure there were a bunch of simps who wanted to release a literal yandere killer because she was "cute" Also I think I remember hearing a story about people wanting to release a serial killer because he was "hot" You know... I'm starting to see a pattern with these-
Sounds like a load of edge for the sake of edge. An invincible villain who just does a bunch of nonsense written by a dude who is a fan of wanted and the joker but failed to understand the point of either of those comics.
@@samuelr5414 kinda surprising considering wanted kinda deconstructed this sort of edgy villain protagonist by pointing out just how shitty they are and how stupid you would have to be to root for one... But yeah millar is indeed inconsistently bad writer...
I was initially disappointed when I heard the new Nemesis had an actual backstory since the mystery of the original was far more terrifying, but the sheer brutality of his cop crusade completely overshadows it. Jesus Christ
Exactly. Like am I supposed to feel bad for this guy because he lost his druggie parents? Because I fucking don't, he killed hundreds of innocent people who were actively trying to protect their city.
I liked the first half of this. I really like how he was just evil to be evil and was pretending to be someone else. Then they have it where nemesis actually has rhyme and reason which is honestly lame. Him being random and insane is honestly really enjoyable and leaving you disconnected from Nemesis. I don't really like him having a reason to his action because it makes you get it. It's like giving a back story to frieza
I kind of agree, but ultimately the second version isn't really divorced from being so evil so as to thoroughly indicate he is evil for evil's sake. I mean, nothing about his backstory ultimately justifies anything he does. Just rationalizes why he chose to become this way. At least it's not apologetics.
His rhyme and reason for being a villain originally is just sheer boredom. That’s so boring. Literally. He goes thru all this effort for years just because he’s bored? That’s like if Batman became Batman because “I was a bored rich guy” But I respect your opinion. I just personally think it’s very lazy writing.
Even if there's reason behind it, the shit he does is still pretty random & violent. Look at the pool scene or the suicide bomber, art heist, nuke lie detector, he's still just as unpredictable, but the original viel is the legitimate reason. Personally, his OG reason could be seen as boring (a bored rich guy who kills people for fun has been done to death) & sure revenge for the death of parents isn't much more original, but it still doesn't take away all the wacky shit he did w/ that reason.
@@_blankfaceimagine being so unintelligent you're going to compare the writing of Joker one of the best villains ever put to paper..... To Nemesis... Fix your brain.
This character reminds me of when kids take a bunch of candy or soda and mix it up thinking it'll be the best soda ever. Having a character have flaws, defects, and character progression makes characters good. Not, this shock factor, uncreative story about how many villains these guys can combine into one character and everyone just goes "ooh wow he's so scary and badass." Shock value is stale, and overused by people who lack imagination. Most good stories have very basic boring plots on paper, but their characters, world building and their use of emotion is what sets them apart. For example, it really is not hard for anyone to imagine something more sinister than Nemesis by just combining ideas of evil into a character. Anyways, watched the whole video, thought it was very well done! keep it up. ♥
Exactly, he's like a teenage mary-sue of an edgy teenager's supervillain oc. We've all been there, to be fair, but like how old is Mark Millar? But yes, this was a nice video that spared me the trouble of skimming such a lame comic.
One dimensional characters dont immediately mean a bad story tho. Jonathan Joestar was written as pure good with dio written as pure evil, and the story itself wasn't bad.
That's a good point. However, these Nemesis stories just seem to be about "isn't humanity fucked up and isn't it satisfying to revel in that?" I'd rather take stories of simplistic triumph of heroism like Jojo's part 1 over that any day.@@Storiaron
@@infectedanimal9830okay I might be wrong on this one, I'm not sure if this is the comic the OP is talking about, but apparently Mark Millar pitched a story about s*xual assault, where the whole premise was Wonder Woman getting assaulted. For the whole comic. I'd normally think this was bullshit but considering the shit Millar has created I'd believe it. There is not a single man on earth who has a bigger hate boner for superhero media than Mark Millar
Griffeth became one of the most infamous villains in storytelling by being a paragon, losing everything, and then as penance sent the entire world into a tailspin while betraying everyone who had ever known him and killing almost everyone on the planet. Nemesis is a school shooter with indestructible plot armor. Im sorry. Griffeth and nemesis' crimes can be compared, but the vast ocean of writing quality, discipline and excecution makes comparing them completely pointless. Except by ways of showing how to and how not to write pure evil.
He wasn't a paragon. Judeau saw in him the truth: he was willing to do anything to get his way, just faked a facade of decency and comradery. In the end, it was his own words towards Guts "that they are not equal, that an equal should chase their own dream" and "did you forget what I told you? You belong to me." and inability to deal with defeat (sabotaging his own career in Midland to sleep with the princess before getting wed, as a temper tantrum) that got him imprisoned and tortured. He LITERALLY TRIED TO STRANGLE GUTS when he came back to the Band of The Hawk, and stayed with them to rescue Griffith. Guts did not see that gesture for what it was, for he innocently thought "they were friends". Griffith blames Guts for all that went wrong. And in the end... OUT OF FUCKING SPITE, Griffith did what he always would have. Step on others to have his way. In short... ... willingly sacrifice everyone present in the event of the Eclipse, begining his transformation as the 5th member of the Godhand. Falconia being his ultimate goal, his own kingdom. Griffith has only himself to blame. And he will never admit to his failings.
i totally agree, but guys like this are still refreshing compared to most superheroes. that's why I and many others love THE BOYS so much. the graphic novel is too edgy and fucked up for its own sake. BUT, it was the genesis of one of my favorite films/shows of all time.
Yeah Griffith is actually capable of tricking people into thinking he's a good guy, like when he comes back to the public scene and captivates an entire audience, this guy nemesis is batman with a flipped script, theirs just nothing captivating, no charisma or charm, like garth ennis at his worst
Let's be honest: Nemesis is predictable and an edge-lord with typical comic book level writing. Not the pinnacle of manga, Berserk, like Griffith. The only one who could top him IS Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. it was written by one of the greatest American writers of all time, who died recently, R.I.P., and is considered his absolute best. He is the unquestionable embodiment of evil; based on the REAL memoirs of raping, killing and scalping natives and Mexicans in the Southwest. This shit actually happened, and the government PAID THEM FOR IT. He's based in that purely human evil. And the only one who can tangle with Griffith. It's why the book's subtitle is "Or the Evening Redness in the West." Griffith comes pretty close, and he's by FAR my favorite manga villain. Comics are usually lame and their writing just the same. But Judge Holden is at the very least a demon, a real one, the very reality of human depravity, based on true memoirs, but manifested as not death, but perhaps EVIL itself, aka in the Christian sense, Satan, or more specifically, Satan's "playground," so to speak. But even that doesn't describe him well enough. He's a polymath, stronger than three men, can carry a Howitzer cannon with his two arms, LOVES raping, torturing killing and PEDERASTY. Fucking kids. But also one of the most charismatic and by far the most intelligent character you could possibly dream of. When I read Blood Meridian? I was depressed for over a month. It's THAT dark. Look it up on Amazon. I can't believe I'm even saying this, because Griffith is sooo fucked up in, daresay, a beautiful way (like a demon/angel in the lore of Berserk: they are the same), but he cannot hold a candle to Judge Holden. They both, though, are as despicable and utterly depraved as they respectable. One, without a doubt, holds the upper hand. High literature versus manga writing, even at its best... it simply cannot compare. It's like ambrosia (the food of the gods) to rotten, decomposing-into-compost oranges. And there is absolutely zero argument that can be made there, if they have actually done their homework and read the book. (Berserk is the literature of manga, one of the only series I love, like early Ghost in the Shell, SAC, and Akira, Ninja Scroll, Fist of the NorthStar, Samurai Champloo... you see where I'm going. Literature, on the other hand, is what I'm usually reading, however, and there is no way it can come close to comparison, it's just a different genre. One is the height of human creation in the use of words, character development, plot, quite simply, all things that deal with the written and read word. The other is, at best, an animated universe that is grittier and more badass than the rest, and thus, love is given. One will pass the test of time due to uncontestable greatness in ALL regards, just no pictures to make it small and condensed (and SIMPLER, let's be honest here). The other? Is at most? A great section of our time, of entertainment. Of pictures with small word sections, made easy to understand; it's the 3rd cousin of writing. Not a work of human reflection, horror, and utter peerless-ness.) He surpasses, with great ease, even Shakespeare's greatest villain, Iago, who is perhaps the greatest Machiavellian villain ever put to paper. Judge Holden is direct and in his eyes, irredeemable and yet unapologetic; there is nothing to apologize for: "War. War existed far before man; and yet, it waited for him. The ultimate practice awaiting it's ultimate practitioner." WAR, in his eyes, is the symphony of humankind that not only defines us, but is humanity's greatest quality. And, another: "Moral law is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak." You can see why his first name is Judge, that is entirely intentional. No man can find flaw with his perceived, and horrifically evil, worldview. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Holden You need to see/read for yourself. Griffith would certainly want him to be his closest ally.
That’s Mark Millar for you. Although I feel he is definitely capable of writing more than just that, as he’s shown by having written Superman Red Son and Civil War.
@@patsagonsaechin3006 not exactly asking for a Boys/Nemesis crossover, more saying if he got a treatment similar to the Boys in being just completely unrestricted and unabashedly brutal
Just finished the portion on Nemesis Pre-Reloaded! It’s shit. Not the video itself, you did a decent job explaining things, but the comic itself. Only good part was the message about family and overcoming obstacles in regards to that. Nemesis sucks though.
Nemesis ReLoaded is much better than its original. Does that mean it’s good? No. Far from it. But they seemingly didn’t take him that seriously this time around which is a net positive. Could’ve done without the parent plot though.
@@thouartseraph For real. "I'm rich and bored" has gotta be the laziest written villain ever. The only good part in the entire thing was the president's ballsy move, getting in Nemesis' face and saying to Blake "Push the button, son. It'll be a pleasure." THAT was metal af. Everything else? Nothing more than an edgelord's wet dream.
I legit always thought that Nemesis was canonically an alternative version of Batman. Mostly cause I always mix in my head Frank Miller with Mark Millar. And because I remember seeing a title many years ago analyzing the comic that said "If the Joker were Batman" and I took it literally.
It's easy to remember: Frank, Miller is spelled with E = good writer Mark, Millar is spelled with A = edgelord who desperately needs an editor to supervise him. Thankfully he's not a hack like Garth Ennis despite two of them being compared often
There was a recent comic called "The Joker Who Stopped Laughing" or something where Batman slipped and broke his neck, and it caused Joker to lapse off into a normal albeit depressed wage worker by day and a messed-up Batman by night. Kind of the inverse of the edge overload that is Batman Who Laughs.
and without the jsutification or being rich and being helped by a secret company that turns rich people into supervillains! he's jsut played compeltely straigth! :D
If you enjoyed this story about an evil Batman, then you have to read the story about a crazy Superman who literally sinks an entire country into the ocean. It’s called irredeemable
@@triplehelix3207 bro you just made such a very good point that I didn’t even realize, both Invincible and The Boys have a powerful yet evil version of Superman and Amazon owns both of them. I’m ngl I feel kinda slow now but I completely feel you on some of the comparisons to Superman fr
@@triplehelix3207you know what would be a unique and original idea Hollywood? How about you give us a good superman. Even the superman in the last few DC movies was a sad edgy boi.
Something I noticed and like about Nemesis is his design, just all white, his costume and his guns, no symbol or logo, just looking as striking as possible while allowing all the blood he spills to show on him with no compromise
I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find a comment pointing this out. Wild. And apparently, it looks like the guy was telling the truth. I don't entirely know what or why the author was trying to do with this scene. I mean, I guess it sparks conversation and makes it more memorable, because if he'd given the statistical average answer or close, nobody would bat an eye.
Basically his girth is a flaccid turned on it's side, and the crazy part is a light squeeze would extend the length a few extra inches... Not to mention the amount of blood needed for such a girth would likely make a normal person faint every time they got into the mood. "oh look it's jimmy on the floor passed out like usual, must of been thinking of his gym instructor again..."
I mean he's not worse than Griffith because Griffith actually has a character, what he does actually has impact, Nemesis might as well just be someone screaming at the top of their lungs, yeah it's loud and people will pay attention but there is no art to it, it's begging for attention.
Well put. Yeah this guy on paper is more evil than guys like Griffith or even Johan, but it means nothing because he’s not even really a character. It’s just the author trying to say “See! MY bad guy is the evil-est!!”
@@specialknees6798 The point of the video wasn't really about how he is as a character, nor was it about the depth of said character, the point was literally that he is just evil, and yeah he is, he literally does a majority of this for mostly no reason and thats about it, no remorse or care, he does it to do it because he can, the lack of humanity from a single HUMAN BEING who just has a lot of money, and then spends it to hurt, murder, or ruin peoples lives constantly is why i'd say he's far more evil, he literally has everything a person could want and need, could have literally anything money can buy and chose to use it to ruin lives, not only is he incredibly sadistic but but what he does is downright disturbing, especially when you take into account in the original story he does it out of boredom. thats it. no sad backstory or events that set him on a path of evil or anything.
Of the two the original version was by far the more evil: the latter was a boy who was legitimately wronged and targeted the source of his pain, but the former was just... rich and bored. But what's chilling is just how realistic that might be--not the superpowers, but doing terrible shit because they're bored and can afford it.
@@Pantherblack yeah but I don't agree with you on him being wronged. His parents where pices of shit that needed to be disposed of anyway. He still would end up in foster care even if they didn't blake them for the murder because his parents would be in jail for drugs. That does not make it ok that they blamed them for the crime they didn't comit but at the same time even if they did do the crime Nemesis would still do the revange for them being taken away from him. In other words he wasn't wronged he is just a pice of shit that cares about his momy and daddy. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
Nah Griffith may be bad but he is still fairly reasonable for a complete narcissist driven by a lust for ultimate power. Even with the most recent additions to the manga Griffith has yet to do anything this bad directly, most of the carnage is done by the monsters who did the same thought the series (only they became more prominent when the world order began to collapse).
Griffith being easier to reason with makes him a better villain. Its so easy just to create an absolute monster without any redeeming qualities. A truly evil person is one who is hard to hate despite all his deeds.
I sorta like the initial concept of Nemesis where you could get a variety of personalities behind the same mask. But I definitely appreciate the second story where they stuck to what worked and turned it up to 11
@@egghound_flopper some of the.. everything.. got a little gratuitous though. but hey, at least the second one had a plot, and a decent one at that, and the shock value wasnt as bad as it was in the 1st one, but some of the events still reek of edge and plot armor "he's so smart" type thinking
@@ManoloRibera070 he was fully capable of turning her into a ghoul with enough intelligence to control her own actions like Bruford and Tarkus but he chose to turn her into the mindless zombie type that eats without thought
@@schizophrenic_rambler After finishing the video I think there is kind of a missed opportunity with how much more in control he is in Reloaded. I think he works a bit better when he never gets his "perfect" win. Like not that he should die at the end but like, his ego isn't satisfied and it drives him crazy. Like at the end of reloaded, he wants to have his big three questions bit but Costello is genuinely an upstanding dude or claps back so hard on his livestream that Nemesis gets enraged and shoots him right there. Ruining his big moment. Of course he'd then gun down all his henchmen and any livestream viewer who watched him embarrass himself but still.
@@schizophrenic_rambler Yeah I was changing the subject, should've been more clear. Was kinda tired lol. If we are still talking about joke endings, maybe the whole run is actually Nemesis planning it out ala a heist movie, then the last issue is him actually starting, it going well at first and then he just keels over from some random thing he couldn't plan for like a bloodclot lol.
This was not even gruesome nor was it chaotic. This guy was doing mediocre villianry what exactly is vile in this comic? This guy is glazing the hell out of nemesis
Now I'm just trying to remember that comic book villain that kidnapped kids, put bombs in them, then returned them to school, and went on TV to ask the parents if they REALLY wanted them back now 😮
Nemesis has the violence of moon knight, the brains of Batman, and the sense of humor like Deadpool. Also the twisted mind of the joker and I love it
No it’s poorly written garbage.
Edit: oh I get it, you’re all a bunch of consumers who consume product because it looks cool.
So real @@zzodysseuszz
@@zzodysseuszzAlways that one guy…
@@zzodysseuszz mister fun police over here
@@Zanemob It literally is though. The comic was complete dogshit.
Edit: a comic that is predictable and relies on depthless shock value is not fun. It’s boring and redundant. The comic was bad, use your brains for once. If your best arguments for this comic is “I don’t care if it’s poorly written, it’s fun!” Then it’s pretty clear that you don’t even really know why you like it other than that your standards are low. Mary sue edgelords aren’t appealing.
Edit: UA-cam deleted my comment even though all I said was “No it’s poorly written garbage.”
Edit finale: I think how childishly people are reacting to my comment kinda proves my point. This comic sucks, it’s only appealing to teenagers who don’t know how to handle scrutiny. Insulting me, belittling me, or rejecting my criticism because you don’t agree with me is just immature. Nobody said this comic needed to be complex, so stop with that terrible counter argument, the comic just needs to not be edgy garbage.
Nobody said this can’t be fun and I never said you can’t have fun, I’m saying this comic was so predictable and garbage that you could only find it fun if your standards are low. Stop misrepresenting me just because you can’t properly defend this comic.
This dude would absolutely make any super hero drop their “no-kill” rule if he were to encounter any outside of his verse
nah Batman would find some excuse
nah Batman would take him to prison or to the psychiatric hospital.
Superman would put him in the phantom zone
Batman: *reads nemisis file*........JASON, rember the no kill rule? Yeah fuck thay merk this mf
@@LoveyDovyyBatman killed Owl Man and Ra'as Al Ghul
I find these sorts of comics hilarious because the police would not have arrested him, they would’ve killed him on the spot
Big plot hole with all ‘badass normal’ characters. No sane person with a gun would’ve let him live
“You call this resisting arrest? We call this a difficulty tweak!” *turns off body cam*
also they take him to jail and don't even remove his stupid little costume. like yo, you do realize he'd need to be processed before he can be taken to the slammer, right?
Honestly this should have been the end to the comic, that would have been HILARIOUS @@normalhuman1679
They were working for him so lowkey makes sense they didn't.
These are the writings of a kid who got shoved into a locker one too many times.
2 words, 1 Name: Mark. Millar.
In an alternate universe, Nemesis is instead called Pretty Bad Chad who instead of physically and mentally scarring people does petty things to random people.
So Reverse-Flash?
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So his counterpart isn't even a heroic person. Imagine being so evil to where your counterpart is still negative.
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@@jujumaps2213I guess I’ll take it for the lesser of the two evils 🤔
In an alternate universe he dawns a black version of the costume and goes by the name Man.
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and then he fights bone and asks him if there's a lore reason why bone needs venom
Tell me you’re a redditor without telling me you’re a redditor
and he fights the jonkler
@@oculuspi6975you mean why bone needs vonom?
This character would've been the coolest thing ever when I was 14 and stupid.
"whats the size of your pp"
right? like, how is this cool?
That's how it is with lots of characters created by Mark Millar. He's just edgy for the sake of it sometimes
I agree... this writing isn't compelling... Nemesis is just an evil Mary Sue...
Especially when they brought him back as "Nemesis 2: Electric Boogaloo", they even used the same name and costume. How uncreative and lazy can you get?
"By the age of 12 he was a gang lord" oh my god the try-hard starts early as hell here and only gets worse.
A lot of 3rd-world countries have gangs with literal children as lieutenants, like Kony in Africa and the cartel and Ndraggeta, who often use little kids as hitmen. American gangs use kids to push narcotics. So to have one become well-respected *kinda* isn't too far-fetched.
@@crazyd4ve875and it’s crazy how it’s not talked about much due to the power of fear they have over people from those areas
@@crazyd4ve875WUT THE HELLLLLL
@@tsyyxkaifuu that and the idealization of organized crime being "manly" and "cool"
@@crazyd4ve875not the kony bs again
"Such a silly little goofball, getting up to tons of mischief" 😂
A dubious little creature getting up to mischief..
REHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Such a comedic little scalywag getting up to tons of wizardry
He’s just a silly little goose
A tad bit of tomfoolery even
"Everyone feels safe that the villain is locked up"
If only they knew they were in comics, where villains have 100% escape rates.
This prison can't stop me because I am a villain (plays classical music as everything that can go wrong goes wrong)
And so they were locked in Arkham Asylum, guaranteeing that they will come back again
Deadpool: "Look at this guy."
The jails in comic books must be like those cartoons where the sleeping dog has the big key 🗝️ 😂
Omnipotent Bugs bunny ass villain.
you snapped w this one
Bro i fuckin love the way your mind works
🎉
😭😭😭
I LOVE this comment so much
The thing about nemesis that makes him less of a villain than Griffith to me is how personal it is. Griffith looked at the people he trusted with his life and people he loved and cared for and still made the decision that he did. And the actions he took and continues to take. He's vile, self serving, unwaveringly evil. And it's all because of a grudge. It's one thing to kill a bunch of people you don't know. It's another to kill everyone you ever knew.
hell not even really a grudge and more a narcissitic need for power. Griffith lost control ever guts and his life spiralled out of control and he just HAD to have that back.
"Let my boy go he did no wrong"
The boy in question:
Cause he’s gay?
"Free da homie___" yea nah
USA freedom!
"He was a good boy"
This is perversely enjoyable, but, at the same time, Nemesis' ability to do everything he does stretches even the concept of deus ex machina.
THANK YOU! This dude just loves edgelord shit, he's not alone but lets not make it more fhan it is. Dude defies reality.
@@ombra711what is not to love in edgelord shit, I mean it's good every now and then. It is not like the MCU where it is force fed down our throat at least
How did he even get a nuke
The first Nemesis is atleast semi-believable at pulling off the things he did, the second one is just cringe.
you can't lie that it's kinda entertaining tho if you turn off all logic@@m8.614
Nemesis definitely gives off the vibes of being an extreme evil version of Batman if he was ever bored and no longer had any purpose in life.🐱
We have so many evil supermen that an evil Batman is a niche change of pace
@@MILDMONSTER1234 true.😹
@@MILDMONSTER1234
*Batman who laughs sitting in the corner*
@@arcanemelody901 and he’s the worst one by far, in DC there’s a bunch of evil Batmen but outside of dc? Not really, I’m talking guys like The Plutonian and homelander and bright burn
What’s crazy is the artstyle looks a lot like the current Batman comics artstyle.
Batman according to Twitter
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He even has a white suit
It takes a lot for me to believe a villain is irredeemable. Sex crimes, genocide, that kind of stuff. He is one of few people, along side Doflamingo, Shao Tucker, Johan Liebert, Dio, Griffith, Mahito, Homelander, The Three Vs, The Gorosei, Satō, The Qu, Hiro Shishigami, Sukuna, Ragyō Kiryūin, Micah Bell, AM, Konrad Curze, Skar King and Judge Holden that cannot be redeemed
To my experience, people doesn't really change much, but it's not real life so what the hell.
Anime is filled with war criminal edgelords such as Mahito or Orochimaru that are just irredeemable.
@@schizophrenic_rambler pardon?
@@coffeecartoons5345 what do you not understand
@@coffeecartoons5345 "in anime there are a lot of assholes"
You should read my post Griffith is my #q for fiction but in real life it's BTK I was living in wichita ks when shown up for the second time. I was a meat cutter- butcher in Wichita and no joke I had interaction with over half the city, it makes me shudder to think that I actually talked to then man. Dahmer and Gacey were tie for 2nd place.
Mullet-Man Comics: "To me, Nemesis is the most vile fictional villain I've ever read, this guy will do anything- and I mean anything- to get his way...He is so completely irredeemable that at times while reading I felt like I had to take a break and go take a shower, and I haven't felt that much darkness in me that I had to like wash it away since I watched the movie Requiem for a Dream."
Also Mullet man Comics: NEMESIS IS BACK BAYBEEEEEEEE!
"You dont want to look, but you cant stop yourself"
Yep. Same way i feel about the joker.
There’s a lot of Villains just like him
@jamesvanitas name a few
its like Tcoaal you know its absolutely horrible but once you force yourself to watch the first 30 minutes of the game you become addicted
I remember seeing the cover and promotion of Nemesis in comics years ago but never knew it was this wild
The comics were released in 2023, not sure if you saw it but one of the lines that Nemesis says is about covid which means it was at least past 2020 and if you search it up they were all released in 2023
You should check out “Big Game” where all the characters from Mark Millars comics all collide.
Really great read
@@AngryStickBoi You're wrong and just googled the info.
The original nemisis comic, the one where the guy tortures the police chief not the mayor, was released in 2010. Nemesis reloaded came out in 2023
@@AngryStickBoiNawh this came out not long after Kick-Ass. Written but he same guy. I saw it in Golden Apple over 10yrs ago so it’s impossible for it to have come out in 2023
@@sirninjaraiden ive been told that i was looking at the reloaded version so that would probably explain it
Nemesis going “Okay a little more detail than I expected, but I appreciate the honesty” was so fucking funny to me
"Makes Griffith look like a good guy." This is a psycho with a gun shooting people. The other is a demon lord turning the world into hell on earth. Respect the ranks.
Yeah, this guy didnt betray his actual long time allies, or r word his only friend's girl, or cause a bunch of demons to invade the world r wording and torturing and killing everyone. Compared to Griffith he's like 10% as evil, and pretty poorly written just for shock value imo.
@@ZionswasdI agree. The writing is edgy trash.
@@Zionswasdtbh comparing a character that has been around for 30 years to a character that has only appeared in like 9 comic issues is kinda unfair.
@@warlockwaifuThe writing wasn't bad, it wasn't necessarily a masterpiece but it served it's purpose well enough.
@@daxie__3210 its totally fair, Griffith was planned out and was well written the whole way through, even in the first few chapters of berserk.
Nemesis is when writers try too hard.
When the writers have never felt the touch of a woman.
That's Batman
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Well it is Mark Millar afterall
@@johnjuiceshipper4963 That's Mark Millar for you. The sweaty edgelord that he is.
"police chief's daughter pregnant by her gay brother" is such a funny headline
You misspelled sexy 😂
@@AnneHathawayRulesI agree. He definitely misspelled sexy.
@@neurohack9038 😄🤣😂🚑💀⚰️🪦👼🏻
@@AnneHathawayRules She does
If they ever do an animated project that has nemesis in it I think nemesis should be played by the lego batman voice actor Will Arnett
YOURE A GENIUS
He was excellently cast as the voice of Needles Kane in Twisted Metal
I think it should be the same guy who did Paxton Fettel in the F.E.A.R. games.
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Having watched Twisted Metal, 100% could see this
You're telling me not a *single* person in *ALL* of L.A. would go outside despite the warning of a nuke? You just know there'd be thousands of people willing to take that dare. The entire place would be glass within minuets.
Not to mention the assumption that everyone is gonna know. Someone is going to get up from a nap and be all "oh shit I gotta get to work."
@@Bananasnotasong I think they said the message was playing on repeat.
or that... idk... the ENTIRE UN WOULD BE TRYING TO GET NEMESIS? LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE NATION IN THE WORLD WOULD TRY AND CAPTURE HIM BECAUSE FOR ALL WE KNOW HE COULD GO TO ANY OTHER NATION AND WRECK HAVOC IF HE WANTS
Somebody in Japan has thought of and drawn up something way worse.
look up tumbling doll of flesh
Ok, now i am really curious, Is there really a manga much worse than Nemesis?
@@lorenzoilmagnifico2431in terms of sheer scale of atrocities with psychopathic reasoning? probably not but ive read some manga that really fucked me up way worse than nemesis or the boys that are basically just brainrot comics
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@@ir0316 im probably desensitized to physically violent ones at this point but mangas like junji ito's stuff, freak island, hideout, or even some mainstream ones can get pretty violent at times like vinland saga, chainsaw man, AoT, et cetera but they are usually the cool/shock value type of violence most of the time
with junji's stuff being the exception as his are usually body horror/grotesque but still making you curious about what'll happen next
my personal pick goes to oyasumi punpun tho that one fucked me up badly but also made me appreciate my current circumstances
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Frank Castle would have gone full DOOM Slayer on this guy.
Honestly it would be a absolute interesting match, frank is good, not going to lie but nemesis literally dropped 97 guys pretty damm quick
papa frank is eating a shit samwhich@@hyperionofhyperness1883
Oh, I'd pay to see that face off.
@@hyperionofhyperness1883plot armor lol
One batch, two batch...
Honestly this didn’t even make me disturbed it just made me cringe at how utterly ridiculous it was. Sounds like a fanfic Batman people make in middle school
overrated af.
That's basically how Millar works...
Honestly its funny cringe for how bad and ridiculous nemesis is.
Yeah I kinda... zoned out after "his daughter got pregnant with his gay son by artificial insemination". Like... okay? He had a lab and a gynecologist implant sperm and... yeah no.
@@Abedeuss fr it this was even a bit of realistic he would've gotten SA'd and trafficked when he tried becoming a drug lord at goddamn 14.
"drew like an evil fucked up version of the hamburguer helper, just a peek at how dark my reality is"
The joker is like me but calm
This feels like "Shock Value: The Character" which just feels bland and stupid with 0 impact.
Hitting the nail on the head
That's Mark Millar, baby!
Boohoo cry about it
@@MFSomething found the Shock Value youtube commenter
That's literally the whole point lol, he's a gag character just like Deadpool.
Jeez, you would think this was written by the people who wrote The Boys comic
-B-but Nemesis.
How did you made the president blow up a children's hospital with a tomato soup bomb that was spoiled 2 years ago while he was wearing a tu-tu vest?
-I paid someone.
what bullshit was that sentence
@@MaxineP-rimeSame bs in the comic
Money = his deus ex machina
I like how one of his biggest secrets is that his son is gay lmfao
It should be a secret.
@@idrinkmilk282nah lll be loud and gay or maybe I should become just like nemesis.
@@thealmighty6650 🤓
@@thealmighty6650Nah.
@@thealmighty6650 honestly it would be really cool to see a loud and gay as hell nemesis
Man! The art in thoses comics is amazing! The way the heads are constructed in the original and reloaded, is an absolute mastercraft. You can tell the artists have a huge grasp on anatomy and perspective.
It is pretty fun to have a “what if batman but super villain” character, however i feel like if a man successfully killed everyone in the pentagon and kidnapped the president then it wouldn’t be down to one detective to take him down. Literally everyone still alive in us military would converge on Nemesis and probably kill him on site. He’d have no chance of hiding.
Yeah, whenever a character like this is locked up I give up on the story. It's the same reason why I don't like the stories where The Joker is an absolute terrorist, gets locked up, and then is released again, dude would've been killed a long time ago
@@psicopato2460Tbf, Joker would still come back after being killed. Has happened before.
"...somehow... Nemesis escaped"
cmon man this is bad comic writing 101
@@han-df9mwdont care if he comeback they just need kill him again
You would also have Canada, Britain, and most of Europe helping. I don’t see how some ragtag group of Neverland pirates could survive
This guy is horrifying. He’s kinda like Art the Clown but somehow worse.
Probably because of the sheer scale and reach of his crimes. Art is a sadistic serial killer but you've only got to worry about him if you're in the same town as him - this absolute freak is able to steal nukes and bring an entire city to its knees to get what he wants. In all likelihood just being on the same continent as him means you're in the crossfire of whatever crazed plan he has.
That's an achievement
Or the original Batman who Laughs.
But the comic just keeps doing the “I planned for that” thing. It’s clearly a parody of Batman, McGuyver, Bond, etc. that does those kinds of frustrating things that have no narrative flow.
Idk about worse but definitely on his level
Nemesis feels a bit too 'magical'. He just seems to know how to do everything and is good at everything. Kinda makes the evil he does come off as more comedic. Anyone else get that?
Yeah
Yep
He's for sure a Gary Stu. Terrible writing.
Yeah a few more moments where he gets his ass kicked like when the cops captured him would’ve evened it out
Yes. He's a Mary Sue.
This is what I imagine is the average day of Los Angeles.
It is. I hate it here
genuinely some of the most juvenile edgelord shit ever written.
It was written by Mark Miller. He's actualy a good writer when he wants to be, belive it or not, but he somethimes flies off the handles and writes overly edgy stuff like this just to be edgy. This comic is still probably only like a mild 5/10 on his edgometer lol
@@zahard1732that's the thing with miller, he can write well but majority of the time he'll just go for shock content
It was edgy but im sure everyone could think of worse stuff. Theirs probably a limit to which the author could go before it couldn't get published. Like detailed instructions and depictions of rape or mass genocide or sexaul assault for example. Thats 100% more deplorable shit. I would consider this pretty tame and laughable bad at times tbh.
"oh oh OHH and then and THEN he artificially INSEMINATES the TEEN DAUGHTER of the police chief with her BROTHERS SEMEN!!!! But that's not all!!! If she gets an abortion she will never have KIDS again!!!! He made sure of that... somehow. Anyway, isnt that SO MESSED UP???? ...hey, hey where are you going?!"
@@austinvw1988nah bro that shit doesn’t go through anyone else’s head 😭😂 seek therapy
I didn't know you fucked with Berserk. Lets see some Apostle action.
"Free my homie,he ain't do nothing wrong"
What his homie did- 0:24
Y'all be that way though. Wanting to free killers and such
😂😂
@@tiffanywyatt5137homies are cool thought
@@tiffanywyatt5137 Who is yall refering to?
@@keshi5541Pretty sure there were a bunch of simps who wanted to release a literal yandere killer because she was "cute"
Also I think I remember hearing a story about people wanting to release a serial killer because he was "hot"
You know... I'm starting to see a pattern with these-
Sounds like a load of edge for the sake of edge.
An invincible villain who just does a bunch of nonsense written by a dude who is a fan of wanted and the joker but failed to understand the point of either of those comics.
its more like revenge porn for sadists wanting to see people suffer its so uncanny
I bet you enjoy Batman comics don’t you? Where he is also invincible
Guy is not a fan of Wanted. He is the one that wrote Wanted loll. Along with Kickass and other shit, Mark Millar is kinda crap
@@Lorenzo_Lucci bane disagrees
@@samuelr5414 kinda surprising considering wanted kinda deconstructed this sort of edgy villain protagonist by pointing out just how shitty they are and how stupid you would have to be to root for one...
But yeah millar is indeed inconsistently bad writer...
I was initially disappointed when I heard the new Nemesis had an actual backstory since the mystery of the original was far more terrifying, but the sheer brutality of his cop crusade completely overshadows it. Jesus Christ
Exactly. Like am I supposed to feel bad for this guy because he lost his druggie parents? Because I fucking don't, he killed hundreds of innocent people who were actively trying to protect their city.
I liked the first half of this. I really like how he was just evil to be evil and was pretending to be someone else. Then they have it where nemesis actually has rhyme and reason which is honestly lame. Him being random and insane is honestly really enjoyable and leaving you disconnected from Nemesis. I don't really like him having a reason to his action because it makes you get it. It's like giving a back story to frieza
I kind of agree, but ultimately the second version isn't really divorced from being so evil so as to thoroughly indicate he is evil for evil's sake. I mean, nothing about his backstory ultimately justifies anything he does. Just rationalizes why he chose to become this way. At least it's not apologetics.
@AlastairCreed he's doing it for his parent the first half was better.
His rhyme and reason for being a villain originally is just sheer boredom. That’s so boring. Literally. He goes thru all this effort for years just because he’s bored? That’s like if Batman became Batman because “I was a bored rich guy”
But I respect your opinion. I just personally think it’s very lazy writing.
Even if there's reason behind it, the shit he does is still pretty random & violent. Look at the pool scene or the suicide bomber, art heist, nuke lie detector, he's still just as unpredictable, but the original viel is the legitimate reason. Personally, his OG reason could be seen as boring (a bored rich guy who kills people for fun has been done to death) & sure revenge for the death of parents isn't much more original, but it still doesn't take away all the wacky shit he did w/ that reason.
@chill3282 I just like the Mystery behind him like how he really is just like the joker .
Gotta admit 4 minutes in I was already bored of the guy, hes the embodiment of senseless violence with no plot
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0 attention spen
Bet you love Joker though
@@_blankface yeah, because joker doesn't always win all the time in the most BS ways
@@_blankfaceimagine being so unintelligent you're going to compare the writing of Joker one of the best villains ever put to paper..... To Nemesis... Fix your brain.
This character reminds me of when kids take a bunch of candy or soda and mix it up thinking it'll be the best soda ever. Having a character have flaws, defects, and character progression makes characters good. Not, this shock factor, uncreative story about how many villains these guys can combine into one character and everyone just goes "ooh wow he's so scary and badass." Shock value is stale, and overused by people who lack imagination. Most good stories have very basic boring plots on paper, but their characters, world building and their use of emotion is what sets them apart. For example, it really is not hard for anyone to imagine something more sinister than Nemesis by just combining ideas of evil into a character. Anyways, watched the whole video, thought it was very well done! keep it up. ♥
this feels like someone looked at the "the boys" comic and thought it was the coolest shit ever
Honestly was a fun listen but not something I’ll remember a week from now
Exactly, he's like a teenage mary-sue of an edgy teenager's supervillain oc. We've all been there, to be fair, but like how old is Mark Millar? But yes, this was a nice video that spared me the trouble of skimming such a lame comic.
One dimensional characters dont immediately mean a bad story tho. Jonathan Joestar was written as pure good with dio written as pure evil, and the story itself wasn't bad.
That's a good point. However, these Nemesis stories just seem to be about "isn't humanity fucked up and isn't it satisfying to revel in that?" I'd rather take stories of simplistic triumph of heroism like Jojo's part 1 over that any day.@@Storiaron
Fuckin Mark Miller was a menace 😅
He really is. He's never written a good book, yet he's so famous.
You know about his pitch for a wonder woman comic?
@@KaijuGal-rb9eknope, feel free to fill us in
@@KaijuGal-rb9ekI am also morbidly curious.
@@infectedanimal9830okay I might be wrong on this one, I'm not sure if this is the comic the OP is talking about, but apparently Mark Millar pitched a story about s*xual assault, where the whole premise was Wonder Woman getting assaulted. For the whole comic. I'd normally think this was bullshit but considering the shit Millar has created I'd believe it. There is not a single man on earth who has a bigger hate boner for superhero media than Mark Millar
Griffeth became one of the most infamous villains in storytelling by being a paragon, losing everything, and then as penance sent the entire world into a tailspin while betraying everyone who had ever known him and killing almost everyone on the planet.
Nemesis is a school shooter with indestructible plot armor.
Im sorry. Griffeth and nemesis' crimes can be compared, but the vast ocean of writing quality, discipline and excecution makes comparing them completely pointless. Except by ways of showing how to and how not to write pure evil.
He wasn't a paragon. Judeau saw in him the truth: he was willing to do anything to get his way, just faked a facade of decency and comradery. In the end, it was his own words towards Guts "that they are not equal, that an equal should chase their own dream" and "did you forget what I told you? You belong to me." and inability to deal with defeat (sabotaging his own career in Midland to sleep with the princess before getting wed, as a temper tantrum) that got him imprisoned and tortured. He LITERALLY TRIED TO STRANGLE GUTS when he came back to the Band of The Hawk, and stayed with them to rescue Griffith. Guts did not see that gesture for what it was, for he innocently thought "they were friends". Griffith blames Guts for all that went wrong. And in the end... OUT OF FUCKING SPITE, Griffith did what he always would have. Step on others to have his way. In short... ... willingly sacrifice everyone present in the event of the Eclipse, begining his transformation as the 5th member of the Godhand. Falconia being his ultimate goal, his own kingdom.
Griffith has only himself to blame. And he will never admit to his failings.
@@theguiltypaytheprice.4899 that's why Griffith is the GOAT (referring to how well he is written as a character, not him as a person lmao)
i totally agree, but guys like this are still refreshing compared to most superheroes. that's why I and many others love THE BOYS so much. the graphic novel is too edgy and fucked up for its own sake. BUT, it was the genesis of one of my favorite films/shows of all time.
Yeah Griffith is actually capable of tricking people into thinking he's a good guy, like when he comes back to the public scene and captivates an entire audience, this guy nemesis is batman with a flipped script, theirs just nothing captivating, no charisma or charm, like garth ennis at his worst
Let's be honest: Nemesis is predictable and an edge-lord with typical comic book level writing. Not the pinnacle of manga, Berserk, like Griffith.
The only one who could top him IS Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. it was written by one of the greatest American writers of all time, who died recently, R.I.P., and is considered his absolute best. He is the unquestionable embodiment of evil; based on the REAL memoirs of raping, killing and scalping natives and Mexicans in the Southwest. This shit actually happened, and the government PAID THEM FOR IT.
He's based in that purely human evil. And the only one who can tangle with Griffith. It's why the book's subtitle is "Or the Evening Redness in the West." Griffith comes pretty close, and he's by FAR my favorite manga villain. Comics are usually lame and their writing just the same. But Judge Holden is at the very least a demon, a real one, the very reality of human depravity, based on true memoirs, but manifested as not death, but perhaps EVIL itself, aka in the Christian sense, Satan, or more specifically, Satan's "playground," so to speak. But even that doesn't describe him well enough. He's a polymath, stronger than three men, can carry a Howitzer cannon with his two arms, LOVES raping, torturing killing and PEDERASTY. Fucking kids. But also one of the most charismatic and by far the most intelligent character you could possibly dream of.
When I read Blood Meridian? I was depressed for over a month. It's THAT dark. Look it up on Amazon. I can't believe I'm even saying this, because Griffith is sooo fucked up in, daresay, a beautiful way (like a demon/angel in the lore of Berserk: they are the same), but he cannot hold a candle to Judge Holden. They both, though, are as despicable and utterly depraved as they respectable. One, without a doubt, holds the upper hand. High literature versus manga writing, even at its best... it simply cannot compare. It's like ambrosia (the food of the gods) to rotten, decomposing-into-compost oranges. And there is absolutely zero argument that can be made there, if they have actually done their homework and read the book.
(Berserk is the literature of manga, one of the only series I love, like early Ghost in the Shell, SAC, and Akira, Ninja Scroll, Fist of the NorthStar, Samurai Champloo... you see where I'm going. Literature, on the other hand, is what I'm usually reading, however, and there is no way it can come close to comparison, it's just a different genre. One is the height of human creation in the use of words, character development, plot, quite simply, all things that deal with the written and read word. The other is, at best, an animated universe that is grittier and more badass than the rest, and thus, love is given. One will pass the test of time due to uncontestable greatness in ALL regards, just no pictures to make it small and condensed (and SIMPLER, let's be honest here). The other? Is at most? A great section of our time, of entertainment. Of pictures with small word sections, made easy to understand; it's the 3rd cousin of writing. Not a work of human reflection, horror, and utter peerless-ness.)
He surpasses, with great ease, even Shakespeare's greatest villain, Iago, who is perhaps the greatest Machiavellian villain ever put to paper. Judge Holden is direct and in his eyes, irredeemable and yet unapologetic; there is nothing to apologize for:
"War. War existed far before man; and yet, it waited for him. The ultimate practice awaiting it's ultimate practitioner." WAR, in his eyes, is the symphony of humankind that not only defines us, but is humanity's greatest quality. And, another:
"Moral law is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak." You can see why his first name is Judge, that is entirely intentional. No man can find flaw with his perceived, and horrifically evil, worldview.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Holden
You need to see/read for yourself. Griffith would certainly want him to be his closest ally.
I like how his weapons share the same color palette as his getup. Makes them look like some twisted Wii Remote peripherals.
This comic sounds like it was written by some edgy high schooler.
Mark Miller seems to have that as a common theme in his writing.
And I love it. He's the sauce for the movies Wanted and Kingsmen. Read the Magic Order. You'll dig it.
It's written by mark Miller sooooooo
Yeah it was written by an edgy teenager
That’s Mark Millar for you. Although I feel he is definitely capable of writing more than just that, as he’s shown by having written Superman Red Son and Civil War.
This is not even the peak of millars edgyness lol
I raise you The Judge from Blood Meridian
“Anything that exists without my knowledge, exists without my consent”
That man It's the most terrifying fiction character i ever seen in my life, Nemesis is nothing against him
@@average2953Hardest line in the whole book.
The Judge makes Nemesis look like Santa Claus
Even Griffith is still more evil than this chump tbh.
Imagine getting a Boys like series revolving around Nemesis. That shit would be insane
Sweet Jesus the controversy would be over the top.
Imagine if its adapted as a spin off, then at the end of their nemesis series to reveal its part of the boys
@@AquaFan1998and ninja turtles
Seeing Nemesis constantly taunting Homelander while getting away every time would be a treat.
@@patsagonsaechin3006 not exactly asking for a Boys/Nemesis crossover, more saying if he got a treatment similar to the Boys in being just completely unrestricted and unabashedly brutal
9:34 legit said sike at the same time 😭😂subbed right after
inb4 it’s just violence for the sake of violence with a c-tier story tagged on.
Just finished the portion on Nemesis Pre-Reloaded!
It’s shit. Not the video itself, you did a decent job explaining things, but the comic itself. Only good part was the message about family and overcoming obstacles in regards to that. Nemesis sucks though.
Nemesis ReLoaded is much better than its original. Does that mean it’s good? No. Far from it.
But they seemingly didn’t take him that seriously this time around which is a net positive. Could’ve done without the parent plot though.
c-tier? You are giving the violent slop too much credit
How is Reloaded better? The edge feels so much worse to me and forced like Millar didn’t even like what he was writing
@@thouartseraph For real. "I'm rich and bored" has gotta be the laziest written villain ever. The only good part in the entire thing was the president's ballsy move, getting in Nemesis' face and saying to Blake "Push the button, son. It'll be a pleasure." THAT was metal af. Everything else? Nothing more than an edgelord's wet dream.
I legit always thought that Nemesis was canonically an alternative version of Batman.
Mostly cause I always mix in my head Frank Miller with Mark Millar.
And because I remember seeing a title many years ago analyzing the comic that said "If the Joker were Batman" and I took it literally.
It's easy to remember:
Frank, Miller is spelled with E = good writer
Mark, Millar is spelled with A = edgelord who desperately needs an editor to supervise him.
Thankfully he's not a hack like Garth Ennis despite two of them being compared often
I get Frank Miller mixed up with Kaz Miller.
There was a recent comic called "The Joker Who Stopped Laughing" or something where Batman slipped and broke his neck, and it caused Joker to lapse off into a normal albeit depressed wage worker by day and a messed-up Batman by night. Kind of the inverse of the edge overload that is Batman Who Laughs.
"Just kidding Nemesis is back."
OH GOD PLEASE NO
and without the jsutification or being rich and being helped by a secret company that turns rich people into supervillains! he's jsut played compeltely straigth! :D
I feel like a Nemesis Vs. Batman comic would be awesome
Bro does a little bit of trolling
A pro gamer move
A little bit?!
Bro engages in a mild amount of tomfoolery
engages in a slight amount of hijinks
He was feeling a bit goofy
bro commited a super 911 at the start of his comics lmao
I thought i seen a tiny hat.
LMAO
911x1000
Nemesis was marketed as being Batman just out of control.
“What if Batman was the Joker” was a tagline before DC put a stop to it apparently
the daughter abortion story is the dumbest thing lmaoooo
Abortion is never dumb
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot thats clearly not what he meant you clown incel
The dude is playing GTA in real life😂
If you enjoyed this story about an evil Batman, then you have to read the story about a crazy Superman who literally sinks an entire country into the ocean. It’s called irredeemable
I like that story a lot but i hope to god that Amazon doesn't adapt it into a animated series something, I need people to stop shitting on superman
But Nemesis is a real piece of shiite 💩.. don't know if I love that, based on it's good character writing.. irredeemable as good as this story ?
@@triplehelix3207 bro you just made such a very good point that I didn’t even realize, both Invincible and The Boys have a powerful yet evil version of Superman and Amazon owns both of them. I’m ngl I feel kinda slow now but I completely feel you on some of the comparisons to Superman fr
@@kiaralee7667 yeah, its obnoxious
@@triplehelix3207you know what would be a unique and original idea Hollywood? How about you give us a good superman. Even the superman in the last few DC movies was a sad edgy boi.
This level of evil is what I can only think to describe as cartoonish.
Nah, cartoonish evil is tie a damsel to railroads, make an overly specific machine and name it the -inator, or conquer the galaxy.
@@schizophrenic_rambler Nah, this is cartoonish evil too. Childishly grim, even.
@@Levyafanthis comment made me really happy
It is, but I think there’s a level of fun to that
Spider-Man and Batman would have a exception to the no kill rule
I would love a crossover with Batman
Samee
Just imagine how hard he pushes the limits of the no kill rule.
@@glens2019I imagine this is probably the only time Batman would break said rule
I would pay for that in a heart beat, honestly
@@thescarletcultist113 well until Joker kills him
Something I noticed and like about Nemesis is his design, just all white, his costume and his guns, no symbol or logo, just looking as striking as possible while allowing all the blood he spills to show on him with no compromise
He wants even God to know that he's going to do something very, very bad
I thought he was a member of the KKK
Side note WTF 8 long and 5 inches girth?? thats a fucking weapon that man was packin 💀
I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find a comment pointing this out. Wild. And apparently, it looks like the guy was telling the truth. I don't entirely know what or why the author was trying to do with this scene. I mean, I guess it sparks conversation and makes it more memorable, because if he'd given the statistical average answer or close, nobody would bat an eye.
Its a black guy bruh😂 they have high testosterone
nah bro when i heard 5 girth i was like oh hell no that cant even feel good for no girl😭😭
Basically his girth is a flaccid turned on it's side, and the crazy part is a light squeeze would extend the length a few extra inches...
Not to mention the amount of blood needed for such a girth would likely make a normal person faint every time they got into the mood.
"oh look it's jimmy on the floor passed out like usual, must of been thinking of his gym instructor again..."
@@flackstar007 Seems you've put a lot of thought into this.
"Stop accusing my bro, he's done nothing!"
Bro in question:
Man, Nemesis makes Reverse-Flash and Blake Manta look like amateurs when it comes to hating.
Blake Manta probably hangs out with Joe Kerr and Ping Nguyen
Nemesis' violence tolerance makes The Joker, Omni-Man, The Punisher, Moon Knight and Jason Todd look like Sesame Street.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 I don't know about omni man. Dude murdered an entire civilization and didn't feel anything.
@@poweroffriendship2.0tf you mean omni man?
He committed mass genocide to prove a point to his kid.
Theres no comparison here
They're more petty than anything at their core.
I mean he's not worse than Griffith because Griffith actually has a character, what he does actually has impact, Nemesis might as well just be someone screaming at the top of their lungs, yeah it's loud and people will pay attention but there is no art to it, it's begging for attention.
Well put. Yeah this guy on paper is more evil than guys like Griffith or even Johan, but it means nothing because he’s not even really a character. It’s just the author trying to say “See! MY bad guy is the evil-est!!”
@@specialknees6798 The point of the video wasn't really about how he is as a character, nor was it about the depth of said character, the point was literally that he is just evil, and yeah he is, he literally does a majority of this for mostly no reason and thats about it, no remorse or care, he does it to do it because he can, the lack of humanity from a single HUMAN BEING who just has a lot of money, and then spends it to hurt, murder, or ruin peoples lives constantly is why i'd say he's far more evil, he literally has everything a person could want and need, could have literally anything money can buy and chose to use it to ruin lives, not only is he incredibly sadistic but but what he does is downright disturbing, especially when you take into account in the original story he does it out of boredom. thats it. no sad backstory or events that set him on a path of evil or anything.
Nemesis is about on the level of a slasher movie bad guy. Have him not say anything like Michael or Jason and I'd understand him about the same
Berserk had a character like this, Wyald and everyone hated him haha
@@AYVYNOh, yeah. That's for sure.
Man from Arkham Aslume fell into a giant vat of bleach and went crazy
@@texastoast9629you wouldn’t understand
Is he stupid?
*Ham Aslume
it just hit me but Nemesis looks like Gru's brother in his suit 😭🙏🏼
"He makes Griffith look like a good guy" is such an apt descriptor for how dark a story can be
He is that bad?
@@moinmahmud6265no, it's a hyperbole
@@moinmahmud6265 (In my opinion) No, but he is very very very bad.
nah, griffith still tops this. but It is still a monster @@moinmahmud6265
Yeah no, that's very innacuratte, Griffith is def worse
the fact that the first iteration had no origin and no real goal is so scary and makes it way more compelling
it’s a fine line between relatability and mystery
Of the two the original version was by far the more evil: the latter was a boy who was legitimately wronged and targeted the source of his pain, but the former was just... rich and bored.
But what's chilling is just how realistic that might be--not the superpowers, but doing terrible shit because they're bored and can afford it.
@@Pantherblack yeah but I don't agree with you on him being wronged. His parents where pices of shit that needed to be disposed of anyway. He still would end up in foster care even if they didn't blake them for the murder because his parents would be in jail for drugs. That does not make it ok that they blamed them for the crime they didn't comit but at the same time even if they did do the crime Nemesis would still do the revange for them being taken away from him. In other words he wasn't wronged he is just a pice of shit that cares about his momy and daddy. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
@@PantherblackI think the apathy of killing someone out of boredom over revenge is much more psychotic and unhinged
@@Pantherblack "a boy who was legitimately wronged and targeted the source of his pain" I think it's way beyond that......
@1:01 So basically, Nemesis is who Eric Cartman grew up to be. Gotchya.
makes griffith look like a good guy is absolutely wild brother
"Nemesis"? Nah! "Anti-man"!
I escaped from r/BatmanArkham subreddit asylum.
No one escapes from it. The Jonkler will be in touch
@@jamesvanitas the Jonkler will touch me?
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And do nasty butt stuff
@@treesurge3465Is he horny?
Are you stupid?
Man went nuts when he turns white
Well thats one way to say it
This is certainly one of the comments ever written 😂
aint no way you said this man worse than griffith
😂😂agreed
Nah Griffith may be bad but he is still fairly reasonable for a complete narcissist driven by a lust for ultimate power.
Even with the most recent additions to the manga Griffith has yet to do anything this bad directly, most of the carnage is done by the monsters who did the same thought the series (only they became more prominent when the world order began to collapse).
@flackstar007 The rape of casca.
bro forgor what he did to casca 💀
@@flackstar007
Griffith being easier to reason with makes him a better villain. Its so easy just to create an absolute monster without any redeeming qualities. A truly evil person is one who is hard to hate despite all his deeds.
Broo this was dope I fully get the excitement of watching crazy villains smoke
Nemesis committed to the bit and we all have to respect him for that.
I sorta like the initial concept of Nemesis where you could get a variety of personalities behind the same mask. But I definitely appreciate the second story where they stuck to what worked and turned it up to 11
Finally. The edgiest comic book ever
Swear the crossed or the boys is edgier
@@certifiedbruhmomento5137 ehhh, nemesis is around the same level as the boys. crossed is way edgier though, i will give you that
Crossed is basically just gore so it wins
@@yellowpig1026 I think the fact that the boys has an entire arc dedicated to mass child rape makes it edgier than this.
Nah Crossed is insane
This would make a great movie. Could be physiological horror. It would be awesome
That wasn't half as fucked as I was expecting, you've got a low bar.
I was thinking more along the lines of "Rip the foetus from a woman's womb and cram it down her throat" type of shit.
What have you been through?
@@JamesInman-p2f Well I gave an example of the level I was expecting but apparently it got deleted.
@@JamesInman-p2f dude hyped it up saying it was "worse than griffith", then described some cookie cutter edgelord villiany lmao
@@RupertAndCheese What villain would you class as a "high bar"?
Ghost Rider would like to have a word with Nemesis 💀🔥
Or spawn
Ghost Rider: * Penance Stare*
Nemesis: Is there any chance I could get all of that on DVD?
Ghost Rider would kill nemisis tf
Oh f
this honestly just sounds like it's edgy for the sake of being edgy
The next second that you do in real life, it’s not edgy because it call war crimes
the second one was pretty good because it straddled the line of actually having a purpose in tearing up the city's corruption
@@egghound_flopper some of the.. everything.. got a little gratuitous though. but hey, at least the second one had a plot, and a decent one at that, and the shock value wasnt as bad as it was in the 1st one, but some of the events still reek of edge and plot armor "he's so smart" type thinking
I like edging
Congratulations you figured it out
SIKE!!!!!! NEMESIS IS BACK BABY!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 9:34
So basically, he's the typical Marc Millar edgelord character?
Yeah, the guy responsible for Wanted lol Nothing new.
Yeah this doesn't hit as hard as Dio forcing a mother to eat her own infant
wasnt she turned into a ghoul/familiar though? She was already gone pretty much mentally so he didnt force her.
@@ManoloRibera070 he was fully capable of turning her into a ghoul with enough intelligence to control her own actions like Bruford and Tarkus but he chose to turn her into the mindless zombie type that eats without thought
be kinda funny if the run ends with Nemesis tripping on a rock and dying or something.
That'd be more frustrating than anything
@@schizophrenic_rambler After finishing the video I think there is kind of a missed opportunity with how much more in control he is in Reloaded. I think he works a bit better when he never gets his "perfect" win.
Like not that he should die at the end but like, his ego isn't satisfied and it drives him crazy. Like at the end of reloaded, he wants to have his big three questions bit but Costello is genuinely an upstanding dude or claps back so hard on his livestream that Nemesis gets enraged and shoots him right there. Ruining his big moment.
Of course he'd then gun down all his henchmen and any livestream viewer who watched him embarrass himself but still.
@@thebigdork8030 there's a huge difference between that and tripping on a rock and dying
@@schizophrenic_rambler Yeah I was changing the subject, should've been more clear. Was kinda tired lol.
If we are still talking about joke endings, maybe the whole run is actually Nemesis planning it out ala a heist movie, then the last issue is him actually starting, it going well at first and then he just keels over from some random thing he couldn't plan for like a bloodclot lol.
@@thebigdork8030"Heheheh, my master-plan is absolutely amazing! I can't wait to-"
*gets run over by a truck*
Nemesis: Patrick Bateman as a super-villain.
You're overhyping it. Nemesis is just n edgy villain, he's basically that villain from oldboy but soulless.
gotta love how he does all of this for the sake of avenging his parents and then just lets one of the people responsible work with him in the end
those two old people where the ones who really killed the hitch hikers, the police were the ones that got his parents killed.
Maybe he was just always like that and looking for a Freudian excuse
@@10tailedbijuu Those people killing the hitchhikers were the reason his parents were killed by the police. It's just bad writing.
This was not even gruesome nor was it chaotic. This guy was doing mediocre villianry what exactly is vile in this comic? This guy is glazing the hell out of nemesis
Some writer decided to add batman's plot armor into a villain and got this
Now I'm just trying to remember that comic book villain that kidnapped kids, put bombs in them, then returned them to school, and went on TV to ask the parents if they REALLY wanted them back now 😮
Legend of Frog
Tbh, I feel like nemesis inspired ghost maker in dc
Yeah feels like ghost maker is just ghost maker but less f”cked up
bro's a GTA character