I feel like the anti-Barbie trend has some underlying internalized misogyny in its own right. Ruth Handler, Barbie's inventor who affectionately referred to herself as Barbie's mother, got the idea for Barbie from seeing her young daughter and her friends play with paper dolls and imagine them as college students, cheerleaders, or career women. She actually wanted Barbie to be an alternative to the baby dolls that dominated the children's doll market up to that point, because she wanted to give little girls an alternative to wife and mother when imagining their futures in their play. Lammily in particular I think misses the mark because it's so focused on what grownups want children to be, while the original idea behind Barbie was letting kids, girls in particular, get to imagine for themselves what they could be. TL/DR: Handler named Barbie and Ken after her daughter and son, Nikolay Lamm named Lammily after himself.
She also used a German novelty doll as a basic design for Barbie. While I agree that Ruth Handler saw how much her daughter and her friends wanted a more grown-up doll to play with, the initial idea for Barbie came from Bild Lily - a novelty doll based on a cartoon in the German Bildzeitung at that time who was meant for adults rather than kids.
I feel like parents and other adults project their thoughts on to children. Kids do not care, I had Barbie’s and I never desired to look like Barbie. Little kids also don’t look at dolls and sexualize them, that is adults.
I totally agree with this, I’ve always loved Barbie because she’s who I’m not. Never as a child did I aspire to look like her, I just love dressing her and doing her hair.
I find it so strange that, with Lammily in particular, there's this weird criticism towards being overly feminine, if that makes sense? Like, there's something "wrong" or "problematic" about little girls who love pink and glitter because it's not "realistic". I can't say for every little girl on the planet, but I think if I saw dolls like Lammily as a child then I'd honestly feel kinda sad. Almost like there's something wrong with a kid wanting to imagine their doll as a pink movie star or fairy. This isn't the 1950's anymore, not every toy *has* to be a educational tool.
Exactly!! The great thing about dolls is that they encourage kids to be imaginative, trying to add 100% realism to a doll actually kind of takes away from the positive effects they have, especially if kids keep hearing that being unrealistic is some sort of terrible thing. Also, a lot of kids would never think about Barbie’s proportions at all if it wasn’t constantly being mentioned by the media around them. I never thought I was supposed to look like Barbie as a kid, I just liked having a little toy person to act out fun ideas with!
The only thing I like about Lamilly is the cellulite and acne stickers. As someone going through puberty, I really appreciate them. But really, you could just print your own stickers for it.
I keep asking myself: Does a doll really need to be realistic? As you said, Barbie is just a tool for imaginative play, as a child when I played with my Barbies they were always protagonists of fairy tales with princesses, fairies and mermaids, so the most unrealistic and far from reality stories I never cared about Barbie's body, I just looked at her face, hair and clothes I liked the Bratz just because they were totally disproportionate, it was their absurd proportions that made them fun. I NEVER wanted reality, I wanted something glamorous, over the top Because children dream big Those who criticize Barbie are frustrated and dissatisfied adults who waste their time criticizing harmless things
I agree with you but also-i do understand why people were upset with barbies body proportions, the way very beautiful and enthral characters were always depicted as petite/buff to look “idol” did effect how i thought of myself as a kid since i wasnt skinny But i dont think theres any need to get rid of all of the glam and beauty in those dolls-you can still have them while including people who arent a buff skinny guy or a petite skinny girl
Barbie’s body was created with ridiculous proportions to make fun of the ridiculous beauty standards women were putting on themselves back then and now as well. Having an hourglass figure isn’t even unrealistic, it’s just not easily achievable for a lot of women.
I also find it interesting how in the beginning, people criticized Barbie for the fact that she had a career other than being a housewife and was supposedly teaching their daughters loose morals. (And then Mattel made Midge and people freaked out about the pregnant Midge doll because she was 'too young', so they really couldn't win.)
I agree! There's just no pleasing some people. There will always be people finding fault with something. But the fact that mattel has stayed in business all these years shows that even with the negativity and controversy surrounding them there are still way more people who are perfectly happy with them and enjoy the dolls. We're just quieter than the naysayers 😉😂 also: I LOVED the happy family line. And mystery squad. And generation girls. The early 2000s had some awesome dolls man...
Yes! Like Barbie never stayed one age, yet when Midge gets married and has kids, that’s BAD? Kids didn’t care, only a few parents! Kids liked playing and pretending with the babies, but their parents thought it was too much because “Midge was a teen.” That doesn’t make any sense because Midge could have been any age just like Barbie! 🙄
“… Alternative to the reality we live in… Barbie is just a tool for imaginative play.” I *couldn’t* agree more with you Joey! It’s obviously important to set standers for educational value, and if looked closer Barbie has set that in stone for years - how else would she have so many different and inventive careers in the span of just 60 years? Whenever she’s a Princess, doctor, teacher or vet it’s all impressive! Interesting to look at all these different doll lines. Great video!!
Alternative title: “the not like other girls” doll lines. Most of these lines are cringy and created with Misogynistic purpose. The Lottie is quite cute tho
@@himom3239not those one the commenter said “most” so just the ones that are made to make wearing make up or things like that seem shameful are the ones made from misogynistic intent
People who get upset over the unrealistic body standards of classic barbie puzzle me somewhat. They seem to forget that she is a FASHION doll. The fashion is what is meant to sell the doll. When you look on the runway, the models are often described as "human hangars" for the clothes. I look at barbie the same
This is so true. As someone who is learning to make doll clothes, I can tell you for certain that dolls MUST have unrealistic proportions, because making outfits at a tiny scale is incredibly difficult. Normal seams look bulky. Normal draping looks bulged on a doll body. A normal proportion doll looks positively pregnant (or blessed with a massive beer gut) in doll clothing - not that there's anything wrong with that, if it's your aesthetic. But if you want fashion, the bodies are going to look a little weird.
It’s a real shame that Barbie gets as much scrutiny regarding her body, when action man, GI Joe or every other action figure escapes the criticism of looking like they are steroid junkies. There is a misogynistic element to this. Either way, when I was a child I didn’t look at Barbie as inspiration for aesthetic goals. In fact, the complaints comes from adults projecting their own insecurities & frustrations onto Barbie. That said, these anti-Barbies tend to not sell well and eventually become discontinued because they aren’t nice to look at. I’m sorry - but they don’t! Humans in human heights look good, but making human proportions in doll form just makes them look ugly - hence why celebrity dolls look terrible. Barbie has come out with a line of fuller dolls I.e fashionistas and some Extras, and it’s a known fact that those curvy dolls do not sell as well as the regular Barbies.
To say that GI Joe escapes criticism is kind of ignorant, boy's toys ARE put under scrutiny all the time, it is not just girl's toys. Though in GI Joe's case the criticism is actually good, I suppose. While I agree that kids don't actually that much about doll aesthetics, generally I think giving Barbie a more realistic body -would- be good, overall.
@@Jhud69 really? Because Barbies body was designed to be able to have fabric on top so it wouldn’t look bulky - which has now caused the issue (since the body changes) that the clothing all the dolls come with are cheap, thin and/or printed on. I won’t say that Barbies decline is all because of the dolls new design, but it does all tie in. Doll design costs a lot of money, and the company is now churning out new face/body molds (which costs hundreds of thousands) each season to show forms of diversity, which is ultimately causing the doll line not to be able to make affordable and good quality dolls. Notice how Bratz, rainbow high etc have more opportunity to focus on quality since all their molds look the same for each character? As for boy toys receiving criticism - granted I will give you that, but that criticism usually comes from a view point that the toys are violent, got guns etc - hardly ever actually talking about the physical aesthetics of their body. We are watching a video that is dedicated to anti-Barbie doll lines.
I completely agree. I loved my Barbies and never felt inferior or body shamed because of her. She's a tool for play. Even the Lego Friends collections are getting criticized for the character's body proportions.
@@Adv18 To be fair, Monster High was high quality for years and they each had their own head molds as well, and there were plenty of alternative body molds (from taller and shorter dolls to multi-headed ones and ones with multiple arms). So I'm not sure if the differing face/body molds can really be linked to the poor quality of Barbie nowadays. Also, Rainbow High recently changed their face molds; series 3 all have differing molds.
@@Iroh12345 hey, I went and looked up monster high and rainbow high, and whilst I agree that there are some differences in the molds - each character having their own characteristics a lot of the molds were then abiding by that character throughout that doll line. I’d say in total maybe 13 different molds? Rainbow high looks like it alternates between a closed mouth mold and a smile mold which would be two? I can’t say that those lines have as much diversity as what the Barbie line has, at all. Actually, you have now put me down a Monster high rabbit hole and now I’m buying a bunch lolol Xx
I never really understood people attacking Barbie's looks - it's like, with all the crap that does actually affect girls self esteem in the world, Barbie is a complete non event in that regard. At least she was always meant to be a friend to the child and a positive reinforcement.
If anything Barbie is a positive role model for young girls. Say what you will about her looks, but she's an independant woman who has been shown as part of tons of careers, many of which aren't typically considered "for girls". She shows young girls that they can do all those things too.
That’s what gets to me. Like oh Barbie is a problem but nothing is still being done to make beauty pageants more accessible to women of all body types and to make them not look like an excuse to see sexy women in skimpy bathing suits. Than there’s kid pageants that is a can of worms that’ll take too long to talk about and all I’ll say is that the fact those are still happening today despite the multiple controversies is disgusting. Also Toddler & Tiaras is just exploiting children and awful in every way. So thrilled it’s long since ended. And like when I was growing up there was all those misleading ads in magazines along with all the manipulative things from it, shows and movies that created all kinds of crazy and bad weight loss stuff. Glad that this has mostly stopped thanks to regulations but the damage is still there unfortunately.
My daughter loves the LoL Surprise doll line. Her dad and I hate them because of how they're dressed. However, she is not getting those messages. She playes family rolls with them. Children don't see the "errors" in dolls that adults see.
Exactly! Kids are just trying to have fun. They don't think that deeply about stuff. It is us adults who are making it way more problematic than it needs to be. It ain't that deep lol 🤣 they are just toys.
I personally love the OTT styles and high quality you get with LOL dolls. Kids usually end up taking the clothes off altogether anyway, so who really cares if it looks "risque" (by kids toy standards) The only thing I'm not a big fan of is their faces, but even that's something I'm getting past
lol i agree! but instead of becoming dull, they became too over the top!! and not in a good way! have you seen the new barbie extras? i don’t get a single fashion choice on those dolls! don’t get me wrong i live for the over the top dolls, but when they’re fashionable!
I think most of the tree change outrage comes from the fact that she buys up really hard to find Bratz dolls and most likely collector dolls and completely destroys them
No, if you look at the comments on her Facebook page, they're full of people congratulating her about "fighting back" against "inappropriate" dolls and even criticizing her for using dolls other than Bratz since they "don't need" to be changed. And she exclusively uses second hand dolls.
Yes and if you point out that people are paying 3x or more for a destroyed collector’s item they flip out. Honestly while I respect her work, she could just as easily buy unpainted dolls from a factory in bulk and still make money, in fact even more money as she wouldn’t have to hunt down the dolls to paint.
You spelled “expressing creative freedom” wrong. She’s using dolls that people don’t want anymore. Give her a break! Also, people in the doll community refurbish and repaint dolls and yet they don’t receive the same amount of criticism. You’re not defending anyone, you’re just being mean!
The tree change dolls controversy really comes from the fact that she criticize other dog repaint hers and also getting super rare dolls that were collectors sometimes even new box
Lammily came out befor the Curvy , Petite and Tall Barbies. I guess those new Bodytypes are an answer for Lammily. And the Nils in Lammilys coffin. Now was no need to buy that expensie doll if you can get a Curvy Fashionista at every store that sells Dolls. But i like her and would love to get a Lammily. I have some Lottie Dolls and think the are really nice. They remind me a lot of Licca from Takara. The Clothes are really well made.
Barbie is a queen The doll was controversial since the beginning for giving girls careers that they had not yet set foot in. I’d have that unrealistic body to if I was that kind of workaholic. I love Barbie I always will I just hope Mattel treat her better
Lamily is especially ick, the creator said he made the doll cus Barbie wasn't attractive to him as a man. So he's one of those annoying "you'd look prettier with no makeup" type of guys Can I add that I find it sus how Bratz gets not only more hate, but more vitriol hate compared to Barbie and Bratz from the start was a pretty diverse group and featured multiple dolls of color. Compared to Barbie who has only recently been showing a more diverse catalog. By vitriol hate I mean I've seen people comparing the Bratz, who up until recently were 16, to sex trafficking slaves
I think the idea about wiping off their faces and changing their clothes would be much better if they only “rescued” dolls that needed to be saved and give them a second life- definitely positive for the environment ⭐️
@@aradiamegido7040 I love all dolls including ooak 💗 I just mean if the doll line was getting criticism from wiping rare dolls- then maybe it would be more positive to use dolls in need of rescue of the specific ones they want. I also think if a doll line specifically targeted dolls in need of rescue- that would also be a positive thing 💗
That's exactly what she does do. The only reason she gets flack about her customs and other customizers don't is because she does more realistic, childish faces on Bratz dolls, instead of a fantasy mermaid or something. It only ever became an "anti Barbie" doll because other people made it that.
The problem isn't Barbie the problem is really the societal norms and expectations for young girls and women... She didn't invent those issues nor advocated for them! I would say she was even combatting them in a lot of ways? You really could make the argument of creating 'un-realistic beauty standards and expectations for women" against any doll line.
for me, dolls are over the top, they scream fashion, glamour, style! all other toys get to be crazy and over the top, so i don’t understand the need to make dolls realistic and turn them political. and i don’t mean that i mind variety of body types- i ADORE the hourglass figure of the omgs and the pear shape of the rainbow highs. just let dolls be stylish, glamorous and over the top. we have enough bland people in our day to day lives.
I think at the end of the day it’s the parents job to make sure their children aren’t developing some sort of unrealistic body standard because of a doll. Barbie is a good role model for children. Especially now! Parents need to be more proactive in their children’s lives. It’s not Barbie’s fault
I can only speak for myself but playing with Barbies, Bratz or Monster High as an afab person in my childhood never ever changed my bodyimage, what i wanted to look like or what i thought i should look like. Media did that.
I actually liked the tree change dolls, they were my introduction to doll customising. I'm a girl who just can't wear makeup due to my autism making it make me want to rip my skin off. (I'm extremely sensitive to touch in general) so I would have liked a doll without makeup, I'm also pale as a ghost with freakles and grey eye so not many dolls are like me even barbie who is white is multiple shades darker than I am. Though I will say some of the attacks on barbie I heard growing up made me question whether it was okay to be the way I am, alway very tall (5'7 by 10) and slim, I understood anorexia is a thing but like a girl can't be tall and skinny and be healthy? I know it's stupid but these were the thoughts of a little girl who loved playing with dolls especially the movie barbies, mermaids, fairies, Swan Lake and the nutcracker dolls were my absolute favourite thing. My first barbie was a pink mermaid with a moving tail that I got when I was 4 and I loved her to literally dead (that doll lasted for years but the tail ripped) it's sad though that in their attempts to get at barbie that they effected the children with the features that they were attacking.
Hi Joey just letting you know that Tree Changed Dolls were made by a Australian who lives in state in Australia called Tasamina. Its a little island that is part of Australia. I know that it can be incredibly comfusing especially reading different articles or watching videos from all around the world . An this isn't to rain of your parade just letting you know from next time . I love your video and the are the light of my week. Thanks so much for all that you do . Sending love and positive vibes from Australia ,❤️
If you like the show, there's a "Barbie oriented" episode of the Simpsons, where Lisa thinks Barbie (aka Malibu Stacie) is too shallow, and she tries to create her own doll. It's an old good classical Simpson episode, I love and recommend it ❤️
Are dolls not a tool of play and escape? Do they need to be real? Even as an adult collector I think most of us would agree they are just fashion or fantasy. And if not,then they should encourage imagination to turn them into other roles. Just curious Joey, those hearts dolls you showed.. could they be a rip off of the beautiful 'hearts to hearts' dolls? They look a little similar. And no, I personally don't support tree change dolls myself. I would if she used OLD dolls, or a variety of dolls, and her artwork varied, but taking a RARE bratz that most of us will never own and mutilating it...well if that's not 'negative' towards the doll community, nothing is. I am ALL FOR artistic style, but hiding this 'anti bratz agenda' behind the wholesome dolls that all look exactly the same, doesn't fool me one bit..
@@bratzliplogical Did you know that we aren't talking about nice people named Karen but those stupid peeps (usually women) who complain about everything and think they're at the top of the world? Now you know
I remember the aisle at Target (in the mall) having a section of those Only Hearts dolls, but I didn't know that's what they were called. They almost look like mini American Girl dolls.
I actually designed some of the sewing patterns that Lammily sells on their website, and I really enjoyed designing clothes for the company. The Lammily doll reminded me a lot of a vintage doll I loved as a girl called Dusty (made by Kenner). She was an athletic fashion doll with a whole line of sports gear that you could buy for her. I especially loved playing with Dusty on my doll's trampoline and parallel bars. So working with the Lammily doll company to make some doll clothes patterns brought back happy memories of the Kenner brand Dusty dolls.
I have a Lottie. I actually acquired her recently from a local thrifting event. I'd never seen one before, but she was so cute in her little bee overalls.
As you said, Glitter girls is more similar to AG, specifically the wellie wishers line. They are popular a alternatives to that line. Completely different scale then Barbie
People tend to forget that barbie's predecessor was a German doll a friend of mine is German and she's six feet tall and at the time barbie was made the figure in style was more curvy and as far as barbie not promoting more intelectual vocations in 1970 when I was six she had already been an astronaut ,how many doctorets do you need for that.☺️🇨🇷
Glad that I grew up with those wonderful and fantastic Barbie dolls from the 2000's-early 2010's cause whenever I look at the waste majority of the present Barbies I become sadder and sadder that high quality ones aren't produced anymore...😭😭😭
As someone who played with Barbie from 2000 to roughly 2005/06, I have to agree. Even now as a doll customizer I avoid using any dolls from after 2013/2014 (with the exception of Chelsea)
the one thing that bugs me about the As I Am doll is that it's a super skinny white girl with blonde hair and blue eyes lol I'm sure there's more skin tones to choose from, but the fact that it's all "inner beauty is what's important!" while being way skinnier than Barbie and focusing on exercise is pretty ironic to me
Back in the days I have seen Lammily promotion videos , first thing that I have notice was that the doll was kind too big and heavy for the hands of the kids . An other thing was , the kids looked as they was payed to say only positive things about her .
It’s so gross when people criticize unrealistic standards in dolls and then make a replacement that’s still very much an overly idealistic representation of women. Dressing a doll in mom jeans and sensible shoes with no makeup is still an ideal even if it’s an incredibly boring one. It’s very hypocritical. The people who make these types of dolls don’t really want girls to be themselves they want them to fit their ideal of what they think women should be and the doll is just propaganda for that. I think in a lot of ways the Lammily style dolls are more toxic to kids than the fashion dolls they try to replace.
All of these dolls are great tools of self-expression and creativity. Barbie edgers an especially bad rap, just because she’s been on toy shelves the longest. She has been affecting and affected by change, and she definitely doesn’t get enough credit.
As a kid I never saw Barbies as real humans, more like cartoon characters. The only thing that bothered me at the time is the lack of different skin tones. But it is mostly adults that project things into kid's toys and entertainment and oftentimes remove the very things kids like. Also never been a fan of those "american girl" type of dolls. One for similar reason as mentioned: eyes are creepy (they look like spider eyes) and in general I find them super boring.
It's interesting that the When I Read, I Dream doll for Heidi gave her blonde braids when she had black hair in the book. My friend had the Jo March doll and I always mistake it of Dorothy Gale lol
Remember when they tried canceling Barbie in 2014? I suppose every child is different, but Barbie has never impacted my childhood in a negative manner. I seen her simply as a doll/friend. My 2 year old loves her Barbie and if she wants to play with her, then I'm okay with that.
I don’t care what anyone says, I LOVE the Tree Change dolls! They remind me of a simpler time that I wish I could go back to. I think so many people are blowing them out of proportion. The creator of the dolls started repainting them as a hobby. She only started selling them after she posted pictures of her artwork and people started asking her where they could buy them. She didn’t have any sort of an “agenda.” She’s just doing what she loves and forming a business around it.
I had both Only Hearts and Barbie Dolls growing up and loved them both. Although i think i preferred the Only Hearts better because they were far more articulated.
I’ve been collecting the Inspiring Women Barbies. I especially like the Katherine Johnson and Ella Fitzgerald dolls. Amelia Earhart is impossible to get for a decent price and is the only one I don’t have.
I had and still do love playing with my Barbie dolls i always imagined them as doctors teachers beach fun going on vacation and having travel to far away cities
My own doll line, the GlamourOZ Dolls, was a reaction to Barbie. Not necessarily an anti response, but a response nonetheless. I wanted to bring back the glamour… 😍💕
Those Glitter Girls line is more of a comparison to AG willie wishers dolls and they are 14" tall. So, i don't think they meant to be compared with barbie. I actually own couple of them and i also don't like their staring eyes. I might consider selling them. 😄
7:04 Aziam dolls - really skinny, the waist looks smaller than Barbies, the face is super feminine and beautiful with huge eyes and plush lips, and there's enough hair for three dolls... and then all that plastic crap inside the package, all made in China. 😀 Very positive and different message from every other doll in the world :-D
Pimple Stickers and Stretch Mark Stickers!!! That is hilarious!!! Every kid would love to have those stickers! They are far more glamorous than the basic Gold Star Stickers we coveted as kids in school in the 1970's. Hahahahahahaha!!!
Like I will say again my stretch marks formed from year 4 in the UK ! I was beyond embarrassed and scared not knowing why I had them. Having a doll that had this really would have helped me !
notice how all these doll lines flopped while barbie is thriving and getting better and better each year. she must be laughing at these doll lines' expense lmao
I've got 2 Lammily dolls (one unmodified and one I've started to modify). I do like them as an adult doll collector who collects playline dolls, because her bodyshape IS so different. Even within the 3 main Barbie bodyshapes, there's a lot of similarities - their arms and legs are about are the same size around, their torsos are close to the same height relative to their legs, their hands and feet are similar size. Lammily has a *long* torso and short legs compared to them and to most other low price non-playline doll bodies you can find. So I like her just for the variety.
Okay but the glitter girls are so stunning in person and they are definitely a more knock of to Wellie wishers from American girl, since they are both 14 inch dolls. Glitter girls are made by Battat who makes our generation dolls 🥰
this is an old video, but reading some of the top comments I just wanted to add my 2 cents in regards to the size of barbie. as a kid i did wish i looked more like barbie and sometimes i felt like i wasn't as pretty just because i was bigger than her, but the thing i think it's important to recognize is that that didn't happen in a vacuum. i had adults and tv and ads and even other kids telling me that i should want to be skinnier or that i would be prettier if i lost weight. so maybe to some extent barbie can exacerbate body image issues, but acting like buying a "better" doll would solve that problem is a little silly; i don't think not playing with barbies would have stopped me from being insecure or that by playing with more realistic dolls i would have been happy with my body type because i still would have gotten messages from other places that being fat was bad, it feels like a bandaid instead of stitches on the problem of fatphobia.
I loved Only Hearts Club dolls and had them all, but I never really played with them? I kinda just enjoyed looking at them. Barbie, on the other hand, was my main playtime girlie 🎀
The title "The Normal Barbie Project" just really bothers me, like I know a lot of girls who look more like Barbie than Lamily ... so like are the Lamily creators trying to say that that's not normal? Like sure, Barbie's proportions aren't realistically achivable, but they also aren't meant to be taken literally ... like when I think of how Barbie would look like as areal person, I think of people like Margot Robbie, the BLACKPINK girls, Emma Watson, AleXa, Scarlett Johansson, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, all completely healthy women ...
Also let’s not forget a reason why Barbie’s body isn’t a realistic standard is because fabric on a doll scale is really really thick in comparison and because they’re fashion dolls you want the fashion to look right on the doll
I actually had one of the only hearts club dolls and I actually think she's cute. That being said the best thing about her is the little dog she came with.
I'd love to hear your opinions on Charlie's Angels dolls. Any/all of them. The 2000's movie are a total not so guilty pleasure of mine. I'd just love to hear your take. As for this video itself, what I've always found interesting about these "anti: Barbies is that Mattel occasionally puts them out their self. Oh yeah, Saudi Arabia also makes their own anti Barbie, her name is Fullah and she comes with an Abaya. She's actually very pretty too. I like to think that this planet is big enough for all of these dolls and Barbie myself. Oh yeah, Jenny dolls in Japan too. They were made in the aftermath of Takara losing the license to make Barbie in Japan. The Takara Barbies/Jennys are really pretty and so 80's, I hope you look them up too.
I actually think the lottie dolls are cute and fun. Not really an alternative to Barbie if anything more of an alternative to stacy and Chelsea as they have that youthful fun childness that barboes sisters lack
I don't like any of them. 😐 And I really don't like any of the "inspiring women" line that have the Barbie name. I'm not a fan of Barbies who are supposed to be someone real. Barbie to me has always been and will be a perfect fantasy figure.
Personally I find realistic dolls creepy. I wish people would understand that what looks good on a real person might not look good on a doll and vice versa!
The old Littlechap family dolls would fit this category. They were before my time, but I know of their existence. Also, though they were made by Mattel, the Sunshine Family. I consider them anti-barbie because they're smaller, although they seemed to have paved thr way for The Heart Family and The Modern Family doll lines.
Very interesting video! I really appreciate your explanation of Barbie being a tool for the imagination. I think she doesn't have to be super realistic - that's what makes playing with dolls fun since it's an escape from the real world, y'know? Thanks for sharing :)
4:21 yeah Lammily's creator is kinda weird, apparently Lammily was also in some part designed as per his personal preferences? He said that if Barbie was a real woman she'd be 'cold and unapproachable'...
I don't think there's anything wrong with making dolls so kids can have one that looks like them, but I don't think kids would want the dolls to dress like them? The whole point of dress up and make believe is to get to try something different, ya know? That's how I would have saw it as a kid at least.
I feel like the anti-Barbie trend has some underlying internalized misogyny in its own right. Ruth Handler, Barbie's inventor who affectionately referred to herself as Barbie's mother, got the idea for Barbie from seeing her young daughter and her friends play with paper dolls and imagine them as college students, cheerleaders, or career women. She actually wanted Barbie to be an alternative to the baby dolls that dominated the children's doll market up to that point, because she wanted to give little girls an alternative to wife and mother when imagining their futures in their play. Lammily in particular I think misses the mark because it's so focused on what grownups want children to be, while the original idea behind Barbie was letting kids, girls in particular, get to imagine for themselves what they could be. TL/DR: Handler named Barbie and Ken after her daughter and son, Nikolay Lamm named Lammily after himself.
She also used a German novelty doll as a basic design for Barbie. While I agree that Ruth Handler saw how much her daughter and her friends wanted a more grown-up doll to play with, the initial idea for Barbie came from Bild Lily - a novelty doll based on a cartoon in the German Bildzeitung at that time who was meant for adults rather than kids.
I feel like parents and other adults project their thoughts on to children. Kids do not care, I had Barbie’s and I never desired to look like Barbie. Little kids also don’t look at dolls and sexualize them, that is adults.
Definitely, kids care more about articulation, clothing, and generally how much you can play with it than whether or not it's realistic
Exactly, when I was a kid the most I did to wanna look like them was wanting barbie’s mermaid tail lol
I mean, sure I thought Barbie is pretty when I was little, but I was too busy snapping my Barbie's arms in half to even care
I totally agree with this, I’ve always loved Barbie because she’s who I’m not. Never as a child did I aspire to look like her, I just love dressing her and doing her hair.
Yes omg @@debleb166
I find it so strange that, with Lammily in particular, there's this weird criticism towards being overly feminine, if that makes sense? Like, there's something "wrong" or "problematic" about little girls who love pink and glitter because it's not "realistic". I can't say for every little girl on the planet, but I think if I saw dolls like Lammily as a child then I'd honestly feel kinda sad. Almost like there's something wrong with a kid wanting to imagine their doll as a pink movie star or fairy.
This isn't the 1950's anymore, not every toy *has* to be a educational tool.
Amen! X
Exactly!! The great thing about dolls is that they encourage kids to be imaginative, trying to add 100% realism to a doll actually kind of takes away from the positive effects they have, especially if kids keep hearing that being unrealistic is some sort of terrible thing. Also, a lot of kids would never think about Barbie’s proportions at all if it wasn’t constantly being mentioned by the media around them. I never thought I was supposed to look like Barbie as a kid, I just liked having a little toy person to act out fun ideas with!
The only thing I like about Lamilly is the cellulite and acne stickers. As someone going through puberty, I really appreciate them. But really, you could just print your own stickers for it.
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Lammily is a propaganda toy made for SJWs, ironically made by a man
I keep asking myself: Does a doll really need to be realistic?
As you said, Barbie is just a tool for imaginative play, as a child when I played with my Barbies they were always protagonists of fairy tales with princesses, fairies and mermaids, so the most unrealistic and far from reality stories
I never cared about Barbie's body, I just looked at her face, hair and clothes
I liked the Bratz just because they were totally disproportionate, it was their absurd proportions that made them fun.
I NEVER wanted reality, I wanted something glamorous, over the top
Because children dream big
Those who criticize Barbie are frustrated and dissatisfied adults who waste their time criticizing harmless things
We stan humongous eyeballs
I agree with you but also-i do understand why people were upset with barbies body proportions, the way very beautiful and enthral characters were always depicted as petite/buff to look “idol” did effect how i thought of myself as a kid since i wasnt skinny
But i dont think theres any need to get rid of all of the glam and beauty in those dolls-you can still have them while including people who arent a buff skinny guy or a petite skinny girl
I totally agree with you. 👍
Barbie’s body was created with ridiculous proportions to make fun of the ridiculous beauty standards women were putting on themselves back then and now as well. Having an hourglass figure isn’t even unrealistic, it’s just not easily achievable for a lot of women.
I also find it interesting how in the beginning, people criticized Barbie for the fact that she had a career other than being a housewife and was supposedly teaching their daughters loose morals. (And then Mattel made Midge and people freaked out about the pregnant Midge doll because she was 'too young', so they really couldn't win.)
I agree! There's just no pleasing some people. There will always be people finding fault with something. But the fact that mattel has stayed in business all these years shows that even with the negativity and controversy surrounding them there are still way more people who are perfectly happy with them and enjoy the dolls. We're just quieter than the naysayers 😉😂 also: I LOVED the happy family line. And mystery squad. And generation girls. The early 2000s had some awesome dolls man...
People pick on anything, before barbie there were baby and child dolls that did not have any aspirational messages whatsoever
Midge and Alan were married! Lol. There really is no pleasing some people.
Yes! Like Barbie never stayed one age, yet when Midge gets married and has kids, that’s BAD? Kids didn’t care, only a few parents! Kids liked playing and pretending with the babies, but their parents thought it was too much because “Midge was a teen.” That doesn’t make any sense because Midge could have been any age just like Barbie! 🙄
“… Alternative to the reality we live in… Barbie is just a tool for imaginative play.” I *couldn’t* agree more with you Joey! It’s obviously important to set standers for educational value, and if looked closer Barbie has set that in stone for years - how else would she have so many different and inventive careers in the span of just 60 years? Whenever she’s a Princess, doctor, teacher or vet it’s all impressive! Interesting to look at all these different doll lines. Great video!!
I agree brilliantly put!
Alternative title: “the not like other girls” doll lines. Most of these lines are cringy and created with Misogynistic purpose. The Lottie is quite cute tho
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Pick me dolls 😱!!!
When I read, I dream is misogynistic? Dolls based of books? Lol
@@himom3239not those one the commenter said “most” so just the ones that are made to make wearing make up or things like that seem shameful are the ones made from misogynistic intent
People who get upset over the unrealistic body standards of classic barbie puzzle me somewhat. They seem to forget that she is a FASHION doll. The fashion is what is meant to sell the doll. When you look on the runway, the models are often described as "human hangars" for the clothes. I look at barbie the same
This is so true. As someone who is learning to make doll clothes, I can tell you for certain that dolls MUST have unrealistic proportions, because making outfits at a tiny scale is incredibly difficult. Normal seams look bulky. Normal draping looks bulged on a doll body. A normal proportion doll looks positively pregnant (or blessed with a massive beer gut) in doll clothing - not that there's anything wrong with that, if it's your aesthetic. But if you want fashion, the bodies are going to look a little weird.
Sometimes people forget that barbies have clothing you could use...
It’s a real shame that Barbie gets as much scrutiny regarding her body, when action man, GI Joe or every other action figure escapes the criticism of looking like they are steroid junkies. There is a misogynistic element to this. Either way, when I was a child I didn’t look at Barbie as inspiration for aesthetic goals. In fact, the complaints comes from adults projecting their own insecurities & frustrations onto Barbie.
That said, these anti-Barbies tend to not sell well and eventually become discontinued because they aren’t nice to look at. I’m sorry - but they don’t! Humans in human heights look good, but making human proportions in doll form just makes them look ugly - hence why celebrity dolls look terrible.
Barbie has come out with a line of fuller dolls I.e fashionistas and some Extras, and it’s a known fact that those curvy dolls do not sell as well as the regular Barbies.
To say that GI Joe escapes criticism is kind of ignorant, boy's toys ARE put under scrutiny all the time, it is not just girl's toys. Though in GI Joe's case the criticism is actually good, I suppose.
While I agree that kids don't actually that much about doll aesthetics, generally I think giving Barbie a more realistic body -would- be good, overall.
@@Jhud69 really? Because Barbies body was designed to be able to have fabric on top so it wouldn’t look bulky - which has now caused the issue (since the body changes) that the clothing all the dolls come with are cheap, thin and/or printed on. I won’t say that Barbies decline is all because of the dolls new design, but it does all tie in. Doll design costs a lot of money, and the company is now churning out new face/body molds (which costs hundreds of thousands) each season to show forms of diversity, which is ultimately causing the doll line not to be able to make affordable and good quality dolls.
Notice how Bratz, rainbow high etc have more opportunity to focus on quality since all their molds look the same for each character?
As for boy toys receiving criticism - granted I will give you that, but that criticism usually comes from a view point that the toys are violent, got guns etc - hardly ever actually talking about the physical aesthetics of their body.
We are watching a video that is dedicated to anti-Barbie doll lines.
I completely agree. I loved my Barbies and never felt inferior or body shamed because of her. She's a tool for play. Even the Lego Friends collections are getting criticized for the character's body proportions.
@@Adv18 To be fair, Monster High was high quality for years and they each had their own head molds as well, and there were plenty of alternative body molds (from taller and shorter dolls to multi-headed ones and ones with multiple arms). So I'm not sure if the differing face/body molds can really be linked to the poor quality of Barbie nowadays. Also, Rainbow High recently changed their face molds; series 3 all have differing molds.
@@Iroh12345 hey, I went and looked up monster high and rainbow high, and whilst I agree that there are some differences in the molds - each character having their own characteristics a lot of the molds were then abiding by that character throughout that doll line. I’d say in total maybe 13 different molds? Rainbow high looks like it alternates between a closed mouth mold and a smile mold which would be two? I can’t say that those lines have as much diversity as what the Barbie line has, at all.
Actually, you have now put me down a Monster high rabbit hole and now I’m buying a bunch lolol Xx
I never really understood people attacking Barbie's looks - it's like, with all the crap that does actually affect girls self esteem in the world, Barbie is a complete non event in that regard. At least she was always meant to be a friend to the child and a positive reinforcement.
If anything Barbie is a positive role model for young girls. Say what you will about her looks, but she's an independant woman who has been shown as part of tons of careers, many of which aren't typically considered "for girls". She shows young girls that they can do all those things too.
That’s what gets to me. Like oh Barbie is a problem but nothing is still being done to make beauty pageants more accessible to women of all body types and to make them not look like an excuse to see sexy women in skimpy bathing suits.
Than there’s kid pageants that is a can of worms that’ll take too long to talk about and all I’ll say is that the fact those are still happening today despite the multiple controversies is disgusting. Also Toddler & Tiaras is just exploiting children and awful in every way. So thrilled it’s long since ended.
And like when I was growing up there was all those misleading ads in magazines along with all the manipulative things from it, shows and movies that created all kinds of crazy and bad weight loss stuff. Glad that this has mostly stopped thanks to regulations but the damage is still there unfortunately.
Barbie should be glamorous.... Look at the most successful doll lines
They are all fashion and glamour orientated.....
Especially Rainbow High. They're literally in a fashion academy!
My daughter loves the LoL Surprise doll line. Her dad and I hate them because of how they're dressed. However, she is not getting those messages. She playes family rolls with them. Children don't see the "errors" in dolls that adults see.
Exactly! Kids are just trying to have fun. They don't think that deeply about stuff. It is us adults who are making it way more problematic than it needs to be. It ain't that deep lol 🤣 they are just toys.
I personally love the OTT styles and high quality you get with LOL dolls. Kids usually end up taking the clothes off altogether anyway, so who really cares if it looks "risque" (by kids toy standards)
The only thing I'm not a big fan of is their faces, but even that's something I'm getting past
Barbie herself has nowadays become the Anti-Barbie. 🤦🏻🤣She's so dull and plain looking. 🤷🏻😆
lol i agree! but instead of becoming dull, they became too over the top!! and not in a good way! have you seen the new barbie extras? i don’t get a single fashion choice on those dolls! don’t get me wrong i live for the over the top dolls, but when they’re fashionable!
Big tea... I blame Lammily
@@VoodooPuppies we need old barbies back! 💫😂👊🏻🏳️🌈
I HATE THAT FUCKING DENIM DRESS
well said!
"no hate towards any of the creators, all of them have unique qualities and ideas", said joey, after calling dolls ugly and cursed lmao
Well he ain’t wrong
I think most of the tree change outrage comes from the fact that she buys up really hard to find Bratz dolls and most likely collector dolls and completely destroys them
I don’t think that’s what she really does though. Last time I checked most of the dolls were donated or had been discarded
No, if you look at the comments on her Facebook page, they're full of people congratulating her about "fighting back" against "inappropriate" dolls and even criticizing her for using dolls other than Bratz since they "don't need" to be changed. And she exclusively uses second hand dolls.
Yes and if you point out that people are paying 3x or more for a destroyed collector’s item they flip out.
Honestly while I respect her work, she could just as easily buy unpainted dolls from a factory in bulk and still make money, in fact even more money as she wouldn’t have to hunt down the dolls to paint.
@@hayleyhellbound9513 that’s easier said than done. How do you even go about doing that?
You spelled “expressing creative freedom” wrong. She’s using dolls that people don’t want anymore. Give her a break! Also, people in the doll community refurbish and repaint dolls and yet they don’t receive the same amount of criticism. You’re not defending anyone, you’re just being mean!
The tree change dolls controversy really comes from the fact that she criticize other dog repaint hers and also getting super rare dolls that were collectors sometimes even new box
Lammily came out befor the Curvy , Petite and Tall Barbies. I guess those new Bodytypes are an answer for Lammily. And the Nils in Lammilys coffin. Now was no need to buy that expensie doll if you can get a Curvy Fashionista at every store that sells Dolls. But i like her and would love to get a Lammily.
I have some Lottie Dolls and think the are really nice. They remind me a lot of Licca from Takara. The Clothes are really well made.
Barbie is a queen The doll was controversial since the beginning for giving girls careers that they had not yet set foot in. I’d have that unrealistic body to if I was that kind of workaholic. I love Barbie I always will I just hope Mattel treat her better
Lamily is especially ick, the creator said he made the doll cus Barbie wasn't attractive to him as a man.
So he's one of those annoying "you'd look prettier with no makeup" type of guys
Can I add that I find it sus how Bratz gets not only more hate, but more vitriol hate compared to Barbie and Bratz from the start was a pretty diverse group and featured multiple dolls of color. Compared to Barbie who has only recently been showing a more diverse catalog.
By vitriol hate I mean I've seen people comparing the Bratz, who up until recently were 16, to sex trafficking slaves
Yes
I think the idea about wiping off their faces and changing their clothes would be much better if they only “rescued” dolls that needed to be saved and give them a second life- definitely positive for the environment ⭐️
What about doll customizing like ooak
@@aradiamegido7040 I love all dolls including ooak 💗 I just mean if the doll line was getting criticism from wiping rare dolls- then maybe it would be more positive to use dolls in need of rescue of the specific ones they want. I also think if a doll line specifically targeted dolls in need of rescue- that would also be a positive thing 💗
That’s what she does. Afaik all the dolls are donated to her
That's exactly what she does do. The only reason she gets flack about her customs and other customizers don't is because she does more realistic, childish faces on Bratz dolls, instead of a fantasy mermaid or something. It only ever became an "anti Barbie" doll because other people made it that.
Tree Change was more anti-Bratz than Barbie, imo, because Bratz was a successful anti-Barbie line.
I kinda miss the old era of Barbie
Yea me too
Good thing they make the reproduction of the old barbies. I love the earlier barbies too. They were more glamorous to my opinion.
I want the old Barbie aesthetic with the new Barbie representation
@@kaivianhines7890 me too.
@Ray what about Barbie Life in the Dreamhouse era
I think that the Lottie dolls are pretty cute and their outfits look really nicely done.
The problem isn't Barbie the problem is really the societal norms and expectations for young girls and women... She didn't invent those issues nor advocated for them! I would say she was even combatting them in a lot of ways? You really could make the argument of creating 'un-realistic beauty standards and expectations for women" against any doll line.
I think Lammily forgot for a second that, yes, people with natural tiny waists exist and that's not a really a good reason to hate Barbie
for me, dolls are over the top, they scream fashion, glamour, style! all other toys get to be crazy and over the top, so i don’t understand the need to make dolls realistic and turn them political.
and i don’t mean that i mind variety of body types- i ADORE the hourglass figure of the omgs and the pear shape of the rainbow highs.
just let dolls be stylish, glamorous and over the top. we have enough bland people in our day to day lives.
I think at the end of the day it’s the parents job to make sure their children aren’t developing some sort of unrealistic body standard because of a doll. Barbie is a good role model for children. Especially now! Parents need to be more proactive in their children’s lives. It’s not Barbie’s fault
I can only speak for myself but playing with Barbies, Bratz or Monster High as an afab person in my childhood never ever changed my bodyimage, what i wanted to look like or what i thought i should look like. Media did that.
You mean as a girl. We’re created to be what we’re meant to be. It’a not just assigned, it’s what we’re meant to be and gender doesn’t change
I actually liked the tree change dolls, they were my introduction to doll customising. I'm a girl who just can't wear makeup due to my autism making it make me want to rip my skin off. (I'm extremely sensitive to touch in general) so I would have liked a doll without makeup, I'm also pale as a ghost with freakles and grey eye so not many dolls are like me even barbie who is white is multiple shades darker than I am. Though I will say some of the attacks on barbie I heard growing up made me question whether it was okay to be the way I am, alway very tall (5'7 by 10) and slim, I understood anorexia is a thing but like a girl can't be tall and skinny and be healthy? I know it's stupid but these were the thoughts of a little girl who loved playing with dolls especially the movie barbies, mermaids, fairies, Swan Lake and the nutcracker dolls were my absolute favourite thing. My first barbie was a pink mermaid with a moving tail that I got when I was 4 and I loved her to literally dead (that doll lasted for years but the tail ripped) it's sad though that in their attempts to get at barbie that they effected the children with the features that they were attacking.
I LOVED Only Hearts Club dolls! They were very well made and they came with little books that were so much fun to read.
Hi Joey just letting you know that Tree Changed Dolls were made by a Australian who lives in state in Australia called Tasamina. Its a little island that is part of Australia. I know that it can be incredibly comfusing especially reading different articles or watching videos from all around the world . An this isn't to rain of your parade just letting you know from next time . I love your video and the are the light of my week. Thanks so much for all that you do . Sending love and positive vibes from Australia ,❤️
If you like the show, there's a "Barbie oriented" episode of the Simpsons, where Lisa thinks Barbie (aka Malibu Stacie) is too shallow, and she tries to create her own doll. It's an old good classical Simpson episode, I love and recommend it ❤️
Poor Barbie has been scapegoated by those who were in desperation for a quick answer to solve their problems.
Are dolls not a tool of play and escape? Do they need to be real? Even as an adult collector I think most of us would agree they are just fashion or fantasy. And if not,then they should encourage imagination to turn them into other roles.
Just curious Joey, those hearts dolls you showed.. could they be a rip off of the beautiful 'hearts to hearts' dolls? They look a little similar.
And no, I personally don't support tree change dolls myself. I would if she used OLD dolls, or a variety of dolls, and her artwork varied, but taking a RARE bratz that most of us will never own and mutilating it...well if that's not 'negative' towards the doll community, nothing is. I am ALL FOR artistic style, but hiding this 'anti bratz agenda' behind the wholesome dolls that all look exactly the same, doesn't fool me one bit..
I gently call them Karen doll lines
This lol!
How about you stop using the name " Karen " as an insult? It can seriously hurt people
@@bratzliplogical honey is your name Karen? 🤣
@@bratzliplogical what a very Karen thing to say.
@@bratzliplogical
Did you know that we aren't talking about nice people named Karen but those stupid peeps (usually women) who complain about everything and think they're at the top of the world?
Now you know
I remember the aisle at Target (in the mall) having a section of those Only Hearts dolls, but I didn't know that's what they were called. They almost look like mini American Girl dolls.
I actually designed some of the sewing patterns that Lammily sells on their website, and I really enjoyed designing clothes for the company. The Lammily doll reminded me a lot of a vintage doll I loved as a girl called Dusty (made by Kenner). She was an athletic fashion doll with a whole line of sports gear that you could buy for her. I especially loved playing with Dusty on my doll's trampoline and parallel bars. So working with the Lammily doll company to make some doll clothes patterns brought back happy memories of the Kenner brand Dusty dolls.
I have a Lottie. I actually acquired her recently from a local thrifting event. I'd never seen one before, but she was so cute in her little bee overalls.
As you said, Glitter girls is more similar to AG, specifically the wellie wishers line. They are popular a alternatives to that line. Completely different scale then Barbie
People tend to forget that barbie's predecessor was a German doll a friend of mine is German and she's six feet tall and at the time barbie was made the figure in style was more curvy and as far as barbie not promoting more intelectual vocations in 1970 when I was six she had already been an astronaut ,how many doctorets do you need for that.☺️🇨🇷
yesssss with the anger doll... dolls are created from joy! not anger
Glad that I grew up with those wonderful and fantastic Barbie dolls from the 2000's-early 2010's cause whenever I look at the waste majority of the present Barbies I become sadder and sadder that high quality ones aren't produced anymore...😭😭😭
As someone who played with Barbie from 2000 to roughly 2005/06, I have to agree. Even now as a doll customizer I avoid using any dolls from after 2013/2014 (with the exception of Chelsea)
I think most of these dolls got discontinued for their own good.
I can see why Lammily was discontinued. I don't know what a little girl would like in her. She's boring.
Barbie Is about Education too, she has Many carrers, has Been a teacher and on the first movies it was about académic music
the lottie doll is actually so cute it reminds me of my favorite strawberry shortcake character, lemon meringue 💛😇
the one thing that bugs me about the As I Am doll is that it's a super skinny white girl with blonde hair and blue eyes lol
I'm sure there's more skin tones to choose from, but the fact that it's all "inner beauty is what's important!" while being way skinnier than Barbie and focusing on exercise is pretty ironic to me
Back in the days I have seen Lammily promotion videos , first thing that I have notice was that the doll was kind too big and heavy for the hands of the kids .
An other thing was , the kids looked as they was payed to say only positive things about her .
It’s so gross when people criticize unrealistic standards in dolls and then make a replacement that’s still very much an overly idealistic representation of women. Dressing a doll in mom jeans and sensible shoes with no makeup is still an ideal even if it’s an incredibly boring one. It’s very hypocritical. The people who make these types of dolls don’t really want girls to be themselves they want them to fit their ideal of what they think women should be and the doll is just propaganda for that. I think in a lot of ways the Lammily style dolls are more toxic to kids than the fashion dolls they try to replace.
i still have the blonde only-hearts doll!!
I like the black girl doll with the orange cat I'd buy it
The glitter girls remind me of the American Girl Wellie Wisher dolls
All of these dolls are great tools of self-expression and creativity. Barbie edgers an especially bad rap, just because she’s been on toy shelves the longest. She has been affecting and affected by change, and she definitely doesn’t get enough credit.
As a kid I never saw Barbies as real humans, more like cartoon characters. The only thing that bothered me at the time is the lack of different skin tones. But it is mostly adults that project things into kid's toys and entertainment and oftentimes remove the very things kids like.
Also never been a fan of those "american girl" type of dolls. One for similar reason as mentioned: eyes are creepy (they look like spider eyes) and in general I find them super boring.
It's interesting that the When I Read, I Dream doll for Heidi gave her blonde braids when she had black hair in the book. My friend had the Jo March doll and I always mistake it of Dorothy Gale lol
love the secret agent imagination play...i do this with my blythe dolls
Remember when they tried canceling Barbie in 2014? I suppose every child is different, but Barbie has never impacted my childhood in a negative manner. I seen her simply as a doll/friend. My 2 year old loves her Barbie and if she wants to play with her, then I'm okay with that.
I don’t care what anyone says, I LOVE the Tree Change dolls! They remind me of a simpler time that I wish I could go back to. I think so many people are blowing them out of proportion. The creator of the dolls started repainting them as a hobby. She only started selling them after she posted pictures of her artwork and people started asking her where they could buy them. She didn’t have any sort of an “agenda.” She’s just doing what she loves and forming a business around it.
I had both Only Hearts and Barbie Dolls growing up and loved them both. Although i think i preferred the Only Hearts better because they were far more articulated.
Me: Likes fantasy dolls portraying witches, fairies etc.
Mothers on Pinterest: IT'S NOT REALISTIC!!!111
I remember Happy To Be Me i never bought it
I’ve been collecting the Inspiring Women Barbies. I especially like the Katherine Johnson and Ella Fitzgerald dolls. Amelia Earhart is impossible to get for a decent price and is the only one I don’t have.
My mom bought me the Happy To Be Me when I was little and I hated it. She was always the evil stepsister, lol.
I had and still do love playing with my Barbie dolls i always imagined them as doctors teachers beach fun going on vacation and having travel to far away cities
I had Kenner Darci dolls in the 1970s, as well as Barbies. I loved them.
My own doll line, the GlamourOZ Dolls, was a reaction to Barbie. Not necessarily an anti response, but a response nonetheless.
I wanted to bring back the glamour… 😍💕
Those Glitter Girls line is more of a comparison to AG willie wishers dolls and they are 14" tall. So, i don't think they meant to be compared with barbie.
I actually own couple of them and i also don't like their staring eyes. I might consider selling them. 😄
7:04 Aziam dolls - really skinny, the waist looks smaller than Barbies, the face is super feminine and beautiful with huge eyes and plush lips, and there's enough hair for three dolls... and then all that plastic crap inside the package, all made in China. 😀
Very positive and different message from every other doll in the world :-D
Pimple Stickers and Stretch Mark Stickers!!! That is hilarious!!! Every kid would love to have those stickers! They are far more glamorous than the basic Gold Star Stickers we coveted as kids in school in the 1970's. Hahahahahahaha!!!
I would always play secret agent with my dolls as well. My cousin’s GI Joe and Barbie would work together to save the word. 😂
Like I will say again my stretch marks formed from year 4 in the UK ! I was beyond embarrassed and scared not knowing why I had them. Having a doll that had this really would have helped me !
I don't like the tree change I just hate the way they made Bratz especially if flecia she is really rare
I would also recommend you do some videos on the American Girl Dolls and the Magic Attic Dolls.
notice how all these doll lines flopped while barbie is thriving and getting better and better each year. she must be laughing at these doll lines' expense lmao
I remember those dolls in 2004 child's play creepy
I've got 2 Lammily dolls (one unmodified and one I've started to modify). I do like them as an adult doll collector who collects playline dolls, because her bodyshape IS so different. Even within the 3 main Barbie bodyshapes, there's a lot of similarities - their arms and legs are about are the same size around, their torsos are close to the same height relative to their legs, their hands and feet are similar size. Lammily has a *long* torso and short legs compared to them and to most other low price non-playline doll bodies you can find. So I like her just for the variety.
Okay but the glitter girls are so stunning in person and they are definitely a more knock of to Wellie wishers from American girl, since they are both 14 inch dolls. Glitter girls are made by Battat who makes our generation dolls 🥰
I'm shocked you haven't mentioned Fulla
this is an old video, but reading some of the top comments I just wanted to add my 2 cents in regards to the size of barbie. as a kid i did wish i looked more like barbie and sometimes i felt like i wasn't as pretty just because i was bigger than her, but the thing i think it's important to recognize is that that didn't happen in a vacuum. i had adults and tv and ads and even other kids telling me that i should want to be skinnier or that i would be prettier if i lost weight. so maybe to some extent barbie can exacerbate body image issues, but acting like buying a "better" doll would solve that problem is a little silly; i don't think not playing with barbies would have stopped me from being insecure or that by playing with more realistic dolls i would have been happy with my body type because i still would have gotten messages from other places that being fat was bad, it feels like a bandaid instead of stitches on the problem of fatphobia.
The Muddy Puddles Lottie seems ridiculously adorable, I think I'll get her 😍😍😍
I LOVE TREE CHANGE DOLLS!!!! THEY R MY FAVES!!!! 😍😍😍😍
I loved Only Hearts Club dolls and had them all, but I never really played with them? I kinda just enjoyed looking at them. Barbie, on the other hand, was my main playtime girlie 🎀
Those really small fashion dolls, I seem to remember a line called Dazzle. I had a few of them.
The title "The Normal Barbie Project" just really bothers me, like I know a lot of girls who look more like Barbie than Lamily ... so like are the Lamily creators trying to say that that's not normal? Like sure, Barbie's proportions aren't realistically achivable, but they also aren't meant to be taken literally ... like when I think of how Barbie would look like as areal person, I think of people like Margot Robbie, the BLACKPINK girls, Emma Watson, AleXa, Scarlett Johansson, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, all completely healthy women ...
Also let’s not forget a reason why Barbie’s body isn’t a realistic standard is because fabric on a doll scale is really really thick in comparison and because they’re fashion dolls you want the fashion to look right on the doll
I actually had one of the only hearts club dolls and I actually think she's cute. That being said the best thing about her is the little dog she came with.
Somebody please tell Nickolay Lamm (the creator of lammily) that dolls aren't supposed to be realistic, they're supposed to be fun
only hearts club is my favorite
I'd love to hear your opinions on Charlie's Angels dolls. Any/all of them. The 2000's movie are a total not so guilty pleasure of mine. I'd just love to hear your take.
As for this video itself, what I've always found interesting about these "anti: Barbies is that Mattel occasionally puts them out their self. Oh yeah, Saudi Arabia also makes their own anti Barbie, her name is Fullah and she comes with an Abaya. She's actually very pretty too. I like to think that this planet is big enough for all of these dolls and Barbie myself.
Oh yeah, Jenny dolls in Japan too. They were made in the aftermath of Takara losing the license to make Barbie in Japan. The Takara Barbies/Jennys are really pretty and so 80's, I hope you look them up too.
I actually think the lottie dolls are cute and fun. Not really an alternative to Barbie if anything more of an alternative to stacy and Chelsea as they have that youthful fun childness that barboes sisters lack
5:56 I swear I keep seeing them blink why are they so creepy to me
I don't like any of them. 😐 And I really don't like any of the "inspiring women" line that have the Barbie name. I'm not a fan of Barbies who are supposed to be someone real. Barbie to me has always been and will be a perfect fantasy figure.
Aw why not? They’re good educational items
That was in the 70's and beyond
Personally I find realistic dolls creepy. I wish people would understand that what looks good on a real person might not look good on a doll and vice versa!
The old Littlechap family dolls would fit this category. They were before my time, but I know of their existence. Also, though they were made by Mattel, the Sunshine Family. I consider them anti-barbie because they're smaller, although they seemed to have paved thr way for The Heart Family and The Modern Family doll lines.
Very interesting video! I really appreciate your explanation of Barbie being a tool for the imagination. I think she doesn't have to be super realistic - that's what makes playing with dolls fun since it's an escape from the real world, y'know? Thanks for sharing :)
4:21 yeah Lammily's creator is kinda weird, apparently Lammily was also in some part designed as per his personal preferences? He said that if Barbie was a real woman she'd be 'cold and unapproachable'...
I don't think there's anything wrong with making dolls so kids can have one that looks like them, but I don't think kids would want the dolls to dress like them? The whole point of dress up and make believe is to get to try something different, ya know? That's how I would have saw it as a kid at least.
Stooooop i loooooved the only hearts club dolls
I loved their inset eyes
"They just look... cursed!" 😂😂😂