Just remember that rear-end gearing has a significant effect on quarter-mile times. If you take two identical cars, one with a (typical) 3.36 rear gear, and the other with 4.11 gearing, the 4.11 equipped car will usually beat the 3.36 car to the finish line.
@@johnnysalazar5399 Absolutely....big blocks, with 500+ ft./lb. of torque, would annihilate the stock tires, even the Wide Ovals, PolyGlas, and Tiger Paw "performance tires" of that era. The solution was typically some version of "cheater slicks" from Mickey Thompson or a similar company. There was no VHT in those days, most guys resorted to using Clorox bleach to heat the tires. Traction-limiting was the main reason why virtually all muscle cars of that era only ran in the 14s. Slicks, open headers, optimum ignition curve and Sunoco 260 would get you bottom 13s, maybe high 12s on a good day. I miss those days....
@blackwaterdogs4256 come to think of it, they did all without help of superchargers (small engines excepted) no twin turbos, DOHC, force fed injection, not even 32 valves, that's impressive
@blackwaterdogs4256 The question wasn't what was the quickest personality modified car of the 60s! Stick to the script. Besides, a fairer assessment would be what was the quickest mass-produced American muscle car of the 60s ! Not these cherry-picked individuals who were cherry-picked of line modified cars!
My stock 4200 pound '96 Impala SS (LT1 5.7 liter) ran a consistent 15.3 at Pomona Drag Strip. Then I replaced the stock mufflers with 2 chamber Flowmasters, added an "H" pipe, and upgraded the air box for better breathing. That got the ET down to 14.7. I still have the Impala - I bought it new. It's a garage queen now.
I’ve always loved them cars and the lt1s. My favorite sports car I’ve ever owned was the 96 Z28 6 speed with T-Tops. 95 Mustang GT was a great car too just took a little bit more to get it going
@@BOURBON-BANDIT working with my dad at his Union 76 gas station in the 70s he had a 66 barracuda formula S with a 340 hemi. He blew away everything he ever raced especially GM.
What hurt us the most back then was tire tech.back in the seventies i threw on some slicks for the street ..helped 100 percent..12 second cars all became ten second cars .
No. On factory tires, muscle cars ran 14s, sometimes 13s. Bolting slicks on would get many into the 12s, but that was it. Restrictive factory intake and exhaust manifolds limited power severely. You saw NHRA Stock Eliminator cars getting into the 11s, but that was with expert tuning, long duration camshafts and expert driving techniques
@@chrisrobertson1929 Guys, you all are caught up in nostalgia concerning old school muscle cars. Trust me I adore these cars, however, in all honesty, they just were not that fast even with a tire compared to todays performance standards. My father had a 1970 383 4bbl Roadrunner that supposedly made 335 "gross" hp. Back in late 1999, I bought a brand new 2000 Camaro Z28 LS1 A4 with 305 "net" hp. Absolutely bone stock with less than a 1000 miles on the odo, I took it down to Houston Raceway Park back in the day and ran a first pass of 13.57@105 on stock tires during spring time. Aint no way in hell my old man Roadrunner could run those times. The best that car could manage if lucky would be around 14.3@93
I'm in my 70's and had a 1969 Chevelle Super Sport 396 From the factory with a 4:10 rear end 4 speed close ratio Hurst shifter, rated at 350 hp I raced all of these cars you showcased back in the day and none of them ever came within a car's length of me at the finish. Oh and one 4 barrel quad. But i did remove the vacuum linkage when I raced so that all 4 barrels would open together. That car had so much torque!
Now in 2024 u càn get a corolla that will do 1 /4 mile in 8 seconds. Stock....really! Times have changed..judt dont hit a floating feather...youll be totalled
I bought a new 69 Charger R/T, 440 Magnum 4-speed that someone special ordered without power steering, power brakes, no A/C, and no racing stripe (I assume for racing). Had to put huge rear tires on it to keep traction and it was dangerous in the rain. It was a beast to drive but fast as hell. Caught rubber in all four gears.
As per magazine tests of the day including an extensive Motor Trend shootout...the 69-1/2 Six BBL Road Runner was the very first completely bone stock American muscle car to ever crack the 12 second quarter mile barrier.
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My brothers cobra jet Fairlane beat the neighbors 440 six pack coronet 4 times straight at Detroit dragway back in 69 That coronet was sweet like a mustard yellow with the lift off hood 👍 Fairlane was stock outta factory
@@DonMeyer-rn2sj The coronet you're describing with lift off hood is an A12 optioned 69-1/2 super bee. No way a fairlane ever beat it unless the Bee driver asleep at the lights.
This isn’t quite accurate. The fastest factory produced quarter mile muscle car of the 1960’s that I am aware of was the 1968 Dodge Hemi Dart Super Stock, code LO23. Only 80 made, and although only on dealer sheets for a very brief period, they were manufactured and sold to the public. And it’s quarter mile time has been reported as low as 9-10 seconds.
the hemi Dart and Cuda were not street cars, so they are not considered Production cars, the same as the Ford Thunder bolt Fairlane. or a A/FX Mustang. They were fast but not street legal.
SOOO CORRECT YOU ARE. I lived in a small town in n.east Ohio and a guy had this car in his grandmas garage. I asked him why do you keep it here ? he got the keys fired her up and pulled out on to the driveway...i knew then and there why he kept his grandma's garage locked. That was true muscle.
And I remember when all of these were new. Thanks for the memories. Worked at a Chrysler Plymouth dealership when I was young and the Road Runner and GTX listed for around $3500 new.
@@HGSolberg The Hemi Cudas & Darts built in 1968 were mostly Automatic Car. All would have been but Herb McCandless & Ronnie Socks Demanded 4 speed cars. A real small number got the 4-speed transmission's.
Had a 1968 chevy biscayne 427-425hp w/m22 rock crusher trans and 4:56 rear gears Never lost a race on street in Buffalo,New York -car ran best of 11.90 128mph at Niagara Drag strip with M&H drag slicks and Hooker headers.
Your 128 mph is saying you are leaving a bunch on the table, My Mustang Runs 11.85 at 114. I only have a 4000 Stall with a higher stall it would 60 foot a bunch quicker, my ET would be even quicker, but My MPH would stay the same. If It was a Gear jammer it would be at least 2 tenths Quicker.
I have always loved and lived muscle cars, the cars that went to HP plus cornering, and improved the handling, were my favorite! Corvette always performed.
Dumping excess fuel out of the exhaust while putting excess wear and tear on the drivetrain was never my thing. I was more impressed with cars that could cruise at triple digit speeds all day, and still get halfway decent mpg. The same monster motors in these cars, when geared with a low-ratio rearend, made some of these cars pretty good highway flyers.
My 69 Chevelle 350 12.5-1 solid lifter etc.ithad 2.56 gears, Incredible Highway Experience.80 mph in 1st gear. 120 (and some) in 2nd,then 3rd was ,wellll? Then 4.56 Experience. Then 3.08. those were the good 'ole days
I believe there were definitely cars left off the list, but this list was musclecars from the 60s, not 70s. Hence no 1970 Chevelle LS6, which would eat the GS for breakfast
Hurst made shifters, not transmissions Also, you've missed so many cars! 1968 Mustang Cobra Jet, 1969 Mustang 428 Super Cobra Jet, 1968 AMX 390 Go Package, 1968 Camaro 396 and many others all ran in the low 13s.
Great video! Love these. Maybe along with horse power & tork pounds next time you could remind us of the (then) "sticker price". That would be the cherry on the sundae...
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Regardless of what they called it, (Posi-Traction, Sure-Grip, Torsen, etc.) virtually ALL muscle cars used some form of limited-slip differential (LSD). The exception being the infamous Detroit Locker, which you could hear coming from 2 blocks away....
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@johnnysalazar5399 Now, that was dragracing! Running that fast, on the tires available at that time! With Without the 4 link suspension and drag shocks and front struts we have now! Those mofos could drive! Putting clamps on the leaf springs! Backyard technology! You had to drive those death traps!
What about the 1968dart GT with the 426 hemi with ruled the sanctioned stock car racing. It's know as the lightest muscle car ever off the showroom floor.
Believe it or not the car I learned to drive in drivers ed was a 1968 Dodge Charger with a giant hemi engine. Not sure if it was an RT or even if this was available in 68 however it looked and sounded just like the 69 RT in this video. Our high school had 2 of these beasts, it was definitely too much car for kids just learning how to drive. We were constantly getting into trouble by burning rubber in the schools parking lot. All you had to do was to breathe on the gas pedal and the rear wheels would smoke.
Per Car and Driver The 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 can complete a quarter mile in 12.2 seconds at 118 miles per hour. It has other notable specifications, including: Brakes: 11.6-in vented disc/10.75-in vented disc Tires: Goodyear Blue Dot, 8.15x15 Dimensions: Wheelbase: 90.0 in, Length: 156.0 in, Width: 68.0 in, Height: 49.0 in Curb weight: 2529 lb Top speed: 165 mph
My summer daily driver CLK 550 runs low 13's all day long. Completely stock, all season tires, in Drive, in comfort mode with stability trak on. Starts out in 2nd. 13.3's at 108 mph, full tank and stuff in the trunk.
My cousin had bought a new 1970 RT charger weather 440 it came with an automatic that car was undefeated in New Orleans drag strip quarter mile time would a set of slicks 12 seconds. NEW Orleans the pad ✌️
All these cars were tested with relatively skinny bias ply tires, in fairness, if the top 5 in this video were run with a set of slicks on them and 4.10-4.56 gears, the times would be a lot more impressive.
@mylanmiller9656 the skinny tires did plagued these cars and the slick at the time weren't as good as today, that being said, these cars will run a lot faster today
@@johnnysalazar5399 No question about that, the Slicks are a bunch Better, and all the Tracks Spray Glue on the Tracks. this was something that didn't happen in the 1960's and 1970's. I can remember in 1964 Jack Chrisman's Comit with 427 and a blower, couldn't hit the 10 second zone because it spun the tires the full length of the drag strip.
i have my grandmothers 66 two door post Deluxe Chevelle with a 283 upgrade from 230 from factory. but everything else is the same. drum brakes front and back, two speed power glide, 10 bolt rearend. just heat and power stirring. the engine been upgraded to an LS, manual 6 speed trans and a Ford 9" rearend. 55 to 72 Chevy ruled over Ford and Dodge with most best looking models of cars, and the two truck styles
I won a lot of races in a 67 SS Camaro with a 283 engine. It was beefed up. Then we built a 327 Corvette motor 202 fully heads. Balance the blueprinted Corvette rev kit and a rock crusher 4 speed. I won a lot of races in that car
@@mylanmiller9656 it was so quick off the line with the ladder bars and beefed up suspension I had very few even keep up with me off the line. But the 327 Corvette beefed with rock crusher 4 speed was bad to the bone besides a posi tract for sure
My Suzuki Madura would walk away from all of them and topped out at 150+ mph. I say 150+ because that was as fast as the speedometer went. Actual speed was higher.
This video wasn’t based upon much research evidence, although it is true that during the muscle car era of the 60s, any cars that were able to get into the 13s in the qtr mile were faster than the average, which most were in the 14s somewhere. But without a good pair of slicks and a low ratio rear end of at least 3:70 or better yet 4:56, it wouldn’t be a cars optimal qtr mile times. And the most accurate way to find out what any cars qtr mile ETs were in the 60s, is to research the actual qtr mile drag strip records, that were recorded and kept from a variety of drag strips around the Country in the 60s. But the most egregious BS in this video was the claim that the 1969 Chevrolet ZL-1 had 430 hp and could run the qtr mile in 13.3, I think it said, and which could easily be true if the car had street tires, that couldn’t get traction, a hi ratio highway rear end, and a driver with the reflexes of a sloth. But it was deceivingly rated at 430 hp for a variety of reasons, and at only 5300 rpm’s. But in reality it developed around 565 hp at 6400 rpm’s, and over 600 hp at 7000 rpm’s, and there’s documented old drag strip records, that the 1969 aluminum ZL-1 and it’s cast iron cousin, the 1967 & 68 L-88, could run the qtr mile in mid to low 11s, and some were even in the mid to low 10s.
Your list is so wrong. 1963 galaxy 500 427 sideoiler 12:27, Chevy L-88 horse power unlimited. Can’t believe everything you see on internet. Mopar 440 motors were 15: second 1/4. We tried hard. Chris was so pissed.
If you own all the old Car and Driver, R&T, etc mags, like I do, you know these times are a tad optomistic. A KR500 was more like 14.9. And King of the Road it was not. It was tuna boat of the road. I was at Fremont Drags in c.1988 and a few 427 Corvettes were stuggling to get a 14..... Minute 8:00 see that 14.66@95? that's reality
On all those old rags it was the driver that made the biggest difference. I have the original article on the 1968 428CJ Cougar. The fastest their staff drivers could get with the 4 speed was 13.5. Dyno Don was there and did his thing (same car, just gave it time to cool down after doing doughnuts in the parking lot to put some flex in the sidwalls) and hit 13.20's.
these vids are always owned by G.M. Did they make fast cars, you bet. Did they own the street Not really. I was there But they make sure to shine in these videos. Its all about the money . Big Company big money .
Not even close. You left out the 1966/7 427 Tri power Corvette at 12.8 and the 1966/7 427 Shelby Cobra SE at 12.4. You left out the 1968 428 CJ Mustangs and Cougars both at 13.20. You left out the Buick GSX 13.2. You left out the 1969 428 SCJ Mach 1 13.5. There were also some early 1960's 421 Pontiac SD that ran 13's we well but that might have been on the cheater slicks, I don't have the full article on that one. Oh yea the 1969/70 Boss 429 Mustang at 13.5. I also recall a mid 13 second Dodge Dart small block.
Had two 69 Firebird Ram III 400, they were torque monsters , felt similar to my 2003 SVT Cobra .. that made 638whp when I sold it, w/43K miles on it. Just heard it changed hands 3 times in a year and motor blown, fuggin idiots. Its crazy that 13's were thought fast then . Now? Its nothing to come across a 10 second daily driven street car. However, these 60s Muscle car's sounded & looked better.
wtf? my 74 satellite with a 318 2bbl did very consistent 14 second quarter miles with a recurved distributer 360 manifolds and a 355 gear and sure grip.....
~~TO DATE, only seen one person do a legit 60's review. This was like the rest. ~~The '69 Roadrunner 13.0 sec 1/4 just edged out '64 Tempest* 13.1 sec w/stock 389&different story w/421 Super Duty. But w/pair of slicks runs 12.8 sec& 0-60 just under 4. Off the production line though it's 4.6 is the 3rd fastest of 60's production cars behind the '61 Cobra's 4.4sec & '63 Cobra 4.1sec. *So far, I've seen all but one omit it. WHY? IDK, maybe because it makes the usual favorites look bad when you compare the #'s each produced in tests?
Ya these times this guy is saying are not realistic. Who is driving? No slicks?. How is the driver willing to take the car to its outright limits? RPM's?. Speed shifting?. Example: I took my 1995 Z-28 350 lt1 6- speed in the 1/4 at Mission Raceway, 100% stock. Street tires to a 14.1 second. That was FULLOUT, pedal to floor while shifting. Obviously your not going to do that with these cars. These cars are made for adrenaline pumping YYYEEEHHHAAA FUN
LOL IT WAS A DOG I owned A FORMAL-ROOF ’69 SCJ 428 TORINO COBRA that would eat it for breakfast!!!! A true 12 second STREET CAR from the factory with 4:30 rear gears
Considering Nissan had nearly 60 years of development to make a faster car, it ought to beat them. You thought you were saying something special too. 🤣🤣🤣
I question some of these posted 1/4 mile times. I had a 68 GTX 440 automatic and it ran consistently 13.5 on street tires. Now I have a 2002 Buick Regal GS supercharged that been modded that can run circles around it with only a V6
Just think, a 2023 Pininfarina Battista got 1/4 mile down to 8.55 sec. Whole lot more money ($2.2 million) for just a few seconds... Think I'll settle for a 2023 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170 which can do the quarter in 8.91 seconds for only $96,666! LOL
Those 8 and 9 second Dodges don't run anywhere close to those reported times outside super specific conditions. In the real world, they aren't even close. I've never even seen the Demon 170 break 10 seconds outside that one run Dodge did. Even on other prepped tracks, it can't run below 10.0 seconds.
The Tempest was a beast. It was absolute brilliance to give it a new body in 1963. Wagner recognised that Pontiac's potentially potent 389 V-8 was externally identical to its mundane 326-cube little brother. It made the car fly!
@@mikedownload4029 u do know the 428 cj was a better engine had more power then the 427 over head cam was a pile of junk it kept losing the timing belt it would have been a better engine if they went with gear drive instead of a chain which i sold a 68 mustang cobra with the 428 dual quads but i like my 67 427 ss rs camaro way more
@@jeffrey4547 The interesting thing about this Internet, is that it keeps a forever record of such things. Of course you know I Iooked it up. The GTO in fact did NOT have the record for the fastest 1/4 mile PRODUCTION car. It did, however, hold the record for the quickest MUSCLE car that year. The Cobra was a sports car, so cars like it and the Corvette wouldn't have qualified to compete for quickest muscle car, but they would qualify to compete in the PRODUCTION car category. The only way they got that stock GTO to run 12.8 was with slicks. The Cobra ran quicker than that on stock tires. Now for what I KNOW as fact. From 1965 until 1986, the 427 Shelby Cobra had the quickest tested 0-60 AND 1/4 mile time of any production car in the world. Both records were officially broken by the Porsche 959 in 1986.
@Pro1er Who said anything even remotely close to a clutch pedal. I guess if you even had a 60s car or could afford one, you would understand. Don't be such a dick. You might get someplace in life.
Interesting that this post FAILS to recognize the benchmark that all these cars tried to meet or beat. The 64 model year super Lark R3 was not only a 150 mph top end car( or 12 MPH FASTER than the Corvette 63-65) but with quarter mile axle was a 12.6 sec at 114 mph runner. Except for out and out super stockers,Detroit had NOTHING to match that In 63-64. And it was tractable on the regular roadways. Not so the super stockers
Just remember that rear-end gearing has a significant effect on quarter-mile times. If you take two identical cars, one with a (typical) 3.36 rear gear, and the other with 4.11 gearing, the 4.11 equipped car will usually beat the 3.36 car to the finish line.
Thanks Cap.
The skinny biasply tires plagued these cars potential which gave the quarter mile times they had
@@johnnysalazar5399 Absolutely....big blocks, with 500+ ft./lb. of torque, would annihilate the stock tires, even the Wide Ovals, PolyGlas, and Tiger Paw "performance tires" of that era. The solution was typically some version of "cheater slicks" from Mickey Thompson or a similar company. There was no VHT in those days, most guys resorted to using Clorox bleach to heat the tires.
Traction-limiting was the main reason why virtually all muscle cars of that era only ran in the 14s. Slicks, open headers, optimum ignition curve and Sunoco 260 would get you bottom 13s, maybe high 12s on a good day. I miss those days....
@blackwaterdogs4256 come to think of it, they did all without help of superchargers (small engines excepted) no twin turbos, DOHC, force fed injection, not even 32 valves, that's impressive
@blackwaterdogs4256 The question wasn't what was the quickest personality modified car of the 60s! Stick to the script. Besides, a fairer assessment would be what was the quickest mass-produced American muscle car of the 60s ! Not these cherry-picked individuals who were cherry-picked of line modified cars!
Way nicer then the cars on the road today in 2024
My stock 4200 pound '96 Impala SS (LT1 5.7 liter) ran a consistent 15.3 at Pomona Drag Strip. Then I replaced the stock mufflers with 2 chamber Flowmasters, added an "H" pipe, and upgraded the air box for better breathing. That got the ET down to 14.7. I still have the Impala - I bought it new. It's a garage queen now.
I’ve always loved them cars and the lt1s. My favorite sports car I’ve ever owned was the 96 Z28 6 speed with T-Tops. 95 Mustang GT was a great car too just took a little bit more to get it going
garbage
@@joe-p7o Can you be a little more specific?
@@GregSr you know TRASH.
@@GregSrdo you know what a big trash bin looks like. belongs in there
My buddy had a 1971 Dodge Dart Swinger with a 340 in it. SUPER fast. R.I.P. Manny
@@JackDavenport-e3j the 340 that he had in there came from a Dodge Demon
I'd take the 340 in the A body over big blocks.
@@JackDavenport-e3j Why Not a Standstill Race . Rolling Races weren't around for money in the 60s
@@BOURBON-BANDIT working with my dad at his Union 76 gas station in the 70s he had a 66 barracuda formula S with a 340 hemi. He blew away everything he ever raced especially GM.
Yes sir it did
What hurt us the most back then was tire tech.back in the seventies i threw on some slicks for the street ..helped 100 percent..12 second cars all became ten second cars .
Tires then left a lot to be desired unless you were doing burnouts !
Transmissions disintegrated😂
I call 100% bs😅😅
No.
On factory tires, muscle cars ran 14s, sometimes 13s. Bolting slicks on would get many into the 12s, but that was it. Restrictive factory intake and exhaust manifolds limited power severely.
You saw NHRA Stock Eliminator cars getting into the 11s, but that was with expert tuning, long duration camshafts and expert driving techniques
@@chrisrobertson1929 Guys, you all are caught up in nostalgia concerning old school muscle cars. Trust me I adore these cars, however, in all honesty, they just were not that fast even with a tire compared to todays performance standards. My father had a 1970 383 4bbl Roadrunner that supposedly made 335 "gross" hp. Back in late 1999, I bought a brand new 2000 Camaro Z28 LS1 A4 with 305 "net" hp. Absolutely bone stock with less than a 1000 miles on the odo, I took it down to Houston Raceway Park back in the day and ran a first pass of 13.57@105 on stock tires during spring time. Aint no way in hell my old man Roadrunner could run those times. The best that car could manage if lucky would be around 14.3@93
I'm in my 70's and had a 1969 Chevelle Super Sport 396
From the factory with a 4:10 rear end 4 speed close ratio Hurst shifter, rated at 350 hp
I raced all of these cars you showcased back in the day and none of them ever came within a car's length of me at the finish. Oh and one 4 barrel quad. But i did remove the vacuum linkage when I raced so that all 4 barrels would open together. That car had so much torque!
Now in 2024 u càn get a corolla that will do 1 /4 mile in 8 seconds. Stock....really! Times have changed..judt dont hit a floating feather...youll be totalled
I bought a new 69 Charger R/T, 440 Magnum 4-speed that someone special ordered without power steering, power brakes, no A/C, and no racing stripe (I assume for racing). Had to put huge rear tires on it to keep traction and it was dangerous in the rain. It was a beast to drive but fast as hell. Caught rubber in all four gears.
It was All Stock from Factory? In Bullitt The 68 Mustang Caught Up To The 69 440 Charger
As per magazine tests of the day including an extensive Motor Trend shootout...the 69-1/2 Six BBL Road Runner was the very first completely bone stock American muscle car to ever crack the 12 second quarter mile barrier.
Which Engine, cuz the Charger & Superbee had same engines .
woooow cars is fabulous
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68 Hemi Dart
69 440 6pach super Bee 11.9 sec A Irwindale drag strip in 1969 with automatic and electronic ignition ! Beats them all out of the showroom!!😮
I wonder why the Super Bee didn't show up in the list.
Not true.
My brothers cobra jet Fairlane beat the neighbors 440 six pack coronet 4 times straight at Detroit dragway back in 69 That coronet was sweet like a mustard yellow with the lift off hood 👍 Fairlane was stock outta factory
@@DonMeyer-rn2sj The coronet you're describing with lift off hood is an A12 optioned 69-1/2 super bee. No way a fairlane ever beat it unless the Bee driver asleep at the lights.
@@frankcastle5294Right No 428CJ Especially Maybe 429BOSS
Those cars look fast and sound spectacular. I'll take one of them over anything built today
I owend a 64 goat.I was an auto mechanic for almost 40 years, I have driven thousand's of cars, that was an increadable car.
This isn’t quite accurate. The fastest factory produced quarter mile muscle car of the 1960’s that I am aware of was the 1968 Dodge Hemi Dart Super Stock, code LO23. Only 80 made, and although only on dealer sheets for a very brief period, they were manufactured and sold to the public. And it’s quarter mile time has been reported as low as 9-10 seconds.
What about the ac cobra or Ford thunderbolt or gt 40. Guess it's all about Chevy and hemi for this video!
the hemi Dart and Cuda were not street cars, so they are not considered Production cars, the same as the Ford Thunder bolt Fairlane. or a A/FX Mustang. They were fast but not street legal.
The 68 BO and LO coded Hemi A-bodies were specifically sold by Chrysler with NO warranty of any kind and were not street legal in any state.
SOOO CORRECT YOU ARE. I lived in a small town in n.east Ohio and a guy had this car in his grandmas garage. I asked him why do you keep it here ? he got the keys fired her up and pulled out on to the driveway...i knew then and there why he kept his grandma's garage locked. That was true muscle.
@@frankcastle5294bull s it. They were licensed and insured for the street. . Get it straight Mopar rules it all.
And I remember when all of these were new. Thanks for the memories. Worked at a Chrysler Plymouth dealership when I was young and the Road Runner and GTX listed for around $3500 new.
$3,500 in 1969 = $30,242.56 in 2024
Loved both cars
@@pieflyer5878 Amazing isn't it
@@terrycrotts2522 Absolutely and they looked almost the same
What 4 speed automatic fid that old 440 Cuda use? 727 Torque flights were only 3 speeds to the best of my knowledge.
Yeah. I'm not an expert on these old Cudas but being Hurst specials they probably all had the sturdy A833 4 speed manual with Hurst ratios.
@@HGSolberg The Hemi Cudas & Darts built in 1968 were mostly Automatic Car. All would have been but Herb McCandless & Ronnie Socks Demanded 4 speed cars. A real small number got the 4-speed transmission's.
Had a 1968 chevy biscayne 427-425hp w/m22 rock crusher trans and 4:56 rear gears Never lost a race on street in Buffalo,New York -car ran best of 11.90 128mph at Niagara Drag strip with M&H drag slicks and Hooker headers.
Your 128 mph is saying you are leaving a bunch on the table, My Mustang Runs 11.85 at 114. I only have a 4000 Stall with a higher stall it would 60 foot a bunch quicker, my ET would be even quicker, but My MPH would stay the same. If It was a Gear jammer it would be at least 2 tenths Quicker.
@@mylanmiller9656 What year Mustang and engine size?? My Biscayne was a daily driver didn't want to change too much/ minor susp. only.
@@ThomasJanas my Mustang is a Fox body with a 351 Cleveland. As a Gear jammer it run 2 tenths quicker, but I got Tired of replacing parts.
I love all of the "I once had a ... that ran 12's bone stock" stories . The first liar doesn't stand a chance!
I have always loved and lived muscle cars, the cars that went to HP plus cornering, and improved the handling, were my favorite! Corvette always performed.
Friend of mine in the military had a 1968 Corvette with the 427. It was frightening.
Holy cow that roadrunner is just so amazing now when you talk about beast it don’t get any better
gto still my favorite. Simply looks fast where some of the others just look like sedans.
It's not how fast you get going, it's how quick you get going fast
Agreed....reaction time, and 60-foot time often determine the winner of a race. Hundredths of a second make a difference.
EXACTLY 👍
Dumping excess fuel out of the exhaust while putting excess wear and tear on the drivetrain was never my thing. I was more impressed with cars that could cruise at triple digit speeds all day, and still get halfway decent mpg. The same monster motors in these cars, when geared with a low-ratio rearend, made some of these cars pretty good highway flyers.
My 69 Chevelle 350 12.5-1 solid lifter etc.ithad 2.56 gears, Incredible Highway Experience.80 mph in 1st gear. 120 (and some) in 2nd,then 3rd was ,wellll? Then 4.56 Experience. Then 3.08. those were the good 'ole days
1960s dodges were beyond cool.
No Buicks? 1970 Buick GS/GSXStage1 was the “Hemi Killer” back in the day! Should’ve been on the List!!!!
Yes sir, those GSX’s were some bad sumbitches.
68 hemi Darts and Barracudas ate it for lunch
@@bradhardy2629 oh. But of course they did sir.
1960's Buicks were so fast, they had to move them to the 1970's.
I believe there were definitely cars left off the list, but this list was musclecars from the 60s, not 70s. Hence no 1970 Chevelle LS6, which would eat the GS for breakfast
Hurst made shifters, not transmissions
Also, you've missed so many cars! 1968 Mustang Cobra Jet, 1969 Mustang 428 Super Cobra Jet, 1968 AMX 390 Go Package, 1968 Camaro 396 and many others all ran in the low 13s.
Boss 351 was even faster than the Cobra jet
@@AndyByrnes-x7k there was NO 351 boss only 351 Cleveland or Windsor
Thank you very much for sharing. Wonderful video. ❤🎉😊
Great video! Love these. Maybe along with horse power & tork pounds next time you could remind us of the (then) "sticker price". That would be the cherry on the sundae...
I don't think that 69 Cuda really had a 4 speed automatic do you?
I just asked the same question before I read your post.
Nope. 3-speed 727 Torqueflite
That's what happens when a bot does the talking!
They didn't. They had either a 4 speed manual or 3 speed torque flight auto
66 350 HP 327 CHEVY 11 DID QUARTER IN 13.3
Wow, I'm really impressed about your profile and personality. I also admire your good sense of humor here. I don't normally write in the comment section, but I think you deserve this compliment
Should be , 10 QUICKEST 1960s muscle cars. Yes, there is a difference.
The MOPAR cars had a "Sure-Grip" not a limited slip.
Regardless of what they called it, (Posi-Traction, Sure-Grip, Torsen, etc.) virtually ALL muscle cars used some form of limited-slip differential (LSD). The exception being the infamous Detroit Locker, which you could hear coming from 2 blocks away....
Sure Grip...!!!
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I question this list. Still a cool video.
1964 Ford Fairlane thunderbolt little over 11 sec.
That wasn’t a regular production car.
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'62 Plymouth savoy 440 superstock also ran 11s 😎
@johnnysalazar5399 Now, that was dragracing! Running that fast, on the tires available at that time! With Without the 4 link suspension and drag shocks and front struts we have now! Those mofos could drive! Putting clamps on the leaf springs! Backyard technology! You had to drive those death traps!
@@markmccarty9793 death traps that get more attention than what you drive nowadays
My 2005 Mustang GT automatic with a 4.6 and a whipple supercharger, 3.55 gears, ran 12.005 in the quarter.
But the most beautiful of these is the Charger RT...
What about the 1968dart GT with the 426 hemi with ruled the sanctioned stock car racing. It's know as the lightest muscle car ever off the showroom floor.
If it was Factory built and not modified in any way how fast did it run?
when it comes to American Muscle. Ill have mine lean please. 64 Thunderbolt. 68 Hemi Dart. 63 Z11 427 Impala.
'63 Z11 Impala was the first 12sec 'production' car. 57 made IIRC. Most went to dealerships owned by racers, or dealerships that sponsored them.
@@pb68slab18 '62-'63 Mopar Max Wedge also ran 12s.
Believe it or not the car I learned to drive in drivers ed was a 1968 Dodge Charger with a giant hemi engine. Not sure if it was an RT or even if this was available in 68 however it looked and sounded just like the 69 RT in this video. Our high school had 2 of these beasts, it was definitely too much car for kids just learning how to drive. We were constantly getting into trouble by burning rubber in the schools parking lot. All you had to do was to breathe on the gas pedal and the rear wheels would smoke.
The 426-Hemi engine was available on the Dodge Charger from 1966 to 1971.
Per Car and Driver
The 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 can complete a quarter mile in 12.2 seconds at 118 miles per hour. It has other notable specifications, including:
Brakes: 11.6-in vented disc/10.75-in vented disc
Tires: Goodyear Blue Dot, 8.15x15
Dimensions: Wheelbase: 90.0 in, Length: 156.0 in, Width: 68.0 in, Height: 49.0 in
Curb weight: 2529 lb
Top speed: 165 mph
My summer daily driver CLK 550 runs low 13's all day long. Completely stock, all season tires, in Drive, in comfort mode with stability trak on. Starts out in 2nd. 13.3's at 108 mph, full tank and stuff in the trunk.
It's not from the 1960s though. 😉
Ok.
Put one of those old muscle car tires and see how quick that Mercedes will go.
What No Ramblers.(American Motors) Cars ,SC/Rambler , AMX
They ran FORD 390s in them
@@CORNDODGER- No they didn’t. AMC had their own 390 that was totally unrelated to the Ford FE 390.
They only ran in the 14's.
@@stickman-1AMX S/S were much quicker.
Factory 1970 Cuda. 413 max wedge. 13 - 1 compression. 1/4 mi in ten seconds.
A factory 1970 Cuda with a 413 max wedge never was produced ....let alone with 13-1 comp.
@@billbennett9537 Right, 1964 was the last year for the Max Wedge. However, 13.5 compression ratio was available on the 426 Max Wedge.
Waht a beast
My cousin had bought a new 1970 RT charger weather 440 it came with an automatic that car was undefeated in New Orleans drag strip quarter mile time would a set of slicks 12 seconds. NEW Orleans the pad ✌️
All these cars were tested with relatively skinny bias ply tires, in fairness, if the top 5 in this video were run with a set of slicks on them and 4.10-4.56 gears, the times would be a lot more impressive.
The 1963 impala ss z/11 ran 11s and 1967 buick gs400 ran 12.8 😮😍😎
No with street tires not a chance. even cars with slicks had traction problems, there was no Track prep like we see today, and Slicks were poor.
@mylanmiller9656 the skinny tires did plagued these cars and the slick at the time weren't as good as today, that being said, these cars will run a lot faster today
@mylanmiller9656 you had to be skilled to get the tires to hook, today, we have traction control
@@johnnysalazar5399 No question about that, the Slicks are a bunch Better, and all the Tracks Spray Glue on the Tracks. this was something that didn't happen in the 1960's and 1970's. I can remember in 1964 Jack Chrisman's Comit with 427 and a blower, couldn't hit the 10 second zone because it spun the tires the full length of the drag strip.
@mylanmiller9656 I always wondered how such powerful cars had bad track times, ad tires and poor tire tech was the answer
Forgot the Shelby Cobra. Faster than all these.
What about the 64 thunderbolt?
The A12 was bad ass.
If your going to throw thunderbolt may as well throw Barracuda and HEMI DART TURNING LOW 10'S
What about the 1971 himicuda it was crazy fast!
RS was a trim package for the Camaro, and not an actual model.
The Shelby WAS a model, as it has unique engines as well as bodywork.
I'm pretty sure you skipped the fastest one which was a 427 AC Cobra, which was 11.8 seconds. I think that beats 13 seconds.
Not a muscle car.
Some of those are beautiful
But today's cars are faster, safer, handle better, stop better and get way better mileage
68 Hemi Cuda and Dart if the ZL1 Camaro gets mentioned these Mopars were the fastest
Didn't think duster beat the charger in the 1/8?
The B body RoadRunner was bigger and Lighter then GMs mid sizers like the Chevelle.
i have my grandmothers 66 two door post Deluxe Chevelle with a 283 upgrade from 230 from factory. but everything else is the same. drum brakes front and back, two speed power glide, 10 bolt rearend. just heat and power stirring. the engine been upgraded to an LS, manual 6 speed trans and a Ford 9" rearend. 55 to 72 Chevy ruled over Ford and Dodge with most best looking models of cars, and the two truck styles
What happen too chev ss 396 ??
So in other words if all ten of these cars left the finish line at the same time it would LOOK like a ten way tie at the finish line.....
I won a lot of races in a 67 SS Camaro with a 283 engine. It was beefed up. Then we built a 327 Corvette motor 202 fully heads. Balance the blueprinted Corvette rev kit and a rock crusher 4 speed. I won a lot of races in that car
What were you racing VW bugs?
@@mylanmiller9656 people could not believe the vehicles I beat.
@@mylanmiller9656 it was so quick off the line with the ladder bars and beefed up suspension I had very few even keep up with me off the line. But the 327 Corvette beefed with rock crusher 4 speed was bad to the bone besides a posi tract for sure
Imagine, a Golf R, even a Type R will eat them for lunch today?
How about a 1967 two door Buick Wildcat with a 430 and 3 speed turbohydramatic 400
69' Chevelle 396 SS 375 hp didn't have a problem with most of them!! I know!! LOL!
The 1965 Shelby cobra 427 quarter mile time was 12.3 so your list isnt exactly accurate.
That is not a muscle car. Muscle cars could seat at least 4 people.
My Suzuki Madura would walk away from all of them and topped out at 150+ mph. I say 150+ because that was as fast as the speedometer went. Actual speed was higher.
Cool story. 🙄
This video wasn’t based upon much research evidence, although it is true that during the muscle car era of the 60s, any cars that were able to get into the 13s in the qtr mile were faster than the average, which most were in the 14s somewhere. But without a good pair of slicks and a low ratio rear end of at least 3:70 or better yet 4:56, it wouldn’t be a cars optimal qtr mile times.
And the most accurate way to find out what any cars qtr mile ETs were in the 60s, is to research the actual qtr mile drag strip records, that were recorded and kept from a variety of drag strips around the Country in the 60s. But the most egregious BS in this video was the claim that the 1969 Chevrolet ZL-1 had 430 hp and could run the qtr mile in 13.3, I think it said, and which could easily be true if the car had street tires, that couldn’t get traction, a hi ratio highway rear end, and a driver with the reflexes of a sloth. But it was deceivingly rated at 430 hp for a variety of reasons, and at only 5300 rpm’s. But in reality it developed around 565 hp at 6400 rpm’s, and over 600 hp at 7000 rpm’s, and there’s documented old drag strip records, that the 1969 aluminum ZL-1 and it’s cast iron cousin, the 1967 & 68 L-88, could run the qtr mile in mid to low 11s, and some were even in the mid to low 10s.
Your list is so wrong. 1963 galaxy 500 427 sideoiler 12:27, Chevy L-88 horse power unlimited. Can’t believe everything you see on internet. Mopar 440 motors were 15: second 1/4. We tried hard. Chris was so pissed.
If you own all the old Car and Driver, R&T, etc mags, like I do, you know these times are a tad optomistic. A KR500 was more like 14.9. And King of the Road it was not. It was tuna boat of the road. I was at Fremont Drags in c.1988 and a few 427 Corvettes were stuggling to get a 14..... Minute 8:00 see that 14.66@95? that's reality
That is because all engines back then used the fake GROSS dyno method that OVER RATED horsepower by 18-20%. That changed after 1972.
On all those old rags it was the driver that made the biggest difference. I have the original article on the 1968 428CJ Cougar. The fastest their staff drivers could get with the 4 speed was 13.5. Dyno Don was there and did his thing (same car, just gave it time to cool down after doing doughnuts in the parking lot to put some flex in the sidwalls) and hit 13.20's.
@@stickman-1 Those cars were NOT STOCK....they lied
no 69 Z/28 cross ram ? its in a class by itself anyway
these vids are always owned by G.M. Did they make fast cars, you bet. Did they own the street Not really. I was there But they make sure to shine in these videos. Its all about the money . Big Company big money .
I have a 1970 Chevy Monte Carlo SS 454 360 HP # matching only 3800 made
SS Amx was factory stock car and got into upper 10
That is not a 69 Camaro .it's a 68
Too many cars overlooked from all big 3
Not even close. You left out the 1966/7 427 Tri power Corvette at 12.8 and the 1966/7 427 Shelby Cobra SE at 12.4. You left out the 1968 428 CJ Mustangs and Cougars both at 13.20. You left out the Buick GSX 13.2. You left out the 1969 428 SCJ Mach 1 13.5. There were also some early 1960's 421 Pontiac SD that ran 13's we well but that might have been on the cheater slicks, I don't have the full article on that one. Oh yea the 1969/70 Boss 429 Mustang at 13.5. I also recall a mid 13 second Dodge Dart small block.
Had two 69 Firebird Ram III 400, they were torque monsters , felt similar to my 2003 SVT Cobra .. that made 638whp when I sold it, w/43K miles on it. Just heard it changed hands 3 times in a year and motor blown, fuggin idiots.
Its crazy that 13's were thought fast then . Now? Its nothing to come across a 10 second daily driven street car. However, these 60s Muscle car's sounded & looked better.
76 Gremlin 400 XR under 12 seconds from the dealer
mark donahue
Lies. They ran high 13s AT BEST.
you know those horse power ratings were given by the auto makers and were under rated and were incorrect... says a retired Master Goodwrench.
1965 Shelby 427 Cobra was quicker than most if not all of them.
Than all of them. Fastest factory muscle car ever built. No one puts it on the list because its over a second faster and makes the others look bad.
Not a muscle car.
I hate when someone rest their foot on the clutch pedal cause that can make your clutch wire out prematurely I'll make it wear uneven
wtf? my 74 satellite with a 318 2bbl did very consistent 14 second quarter miles with a recurved distributer 360 manifolds and a 355 gear and sure grip.....
Was your 74 Satellite made in the 60's 😅
~~TO DATE, only seen one person do a legit 60's review. This was like the rest.
~~The '69 Roadrunner 13.0 sec 1/4 just edged out '64 Tempest* 13.1 sec w/stock 389&different story w/421 Super Duty. But w/pair of slicks runs 12.8 sec& 0-60 just under 4. Off the production line though it's 4.6 is the 3rd fastest of 60's production cars behind the '61 Cobra's 4.4sec & '63 Cobra 4.1sec.
*So far, I've seen all but one omit it. WHY? IDK, maybe because it makes the usual favorites look bad when you compare the #'s each produced in tests?
No stock z28 ever run the quarter mile in 13.8 I dove a bunch of them and they are a 14.20 car at best.
To do that they used a Z-28 that came with the dual quad carbs. Then it would make over 400 HP!
The goat also
Little slow but I was going to say 64 thunderbolt
Camaro Z28 with 350hps ? That was the Camaro SS , the Z28 was rated under 300hps*
yes rated at 290 hp as was the Bos 302
Ya these times this guy is saying are not realistic. Who is driving? No slicks?. How is the driver willing to take the car to its outright limits? RPM's?. Speed shifting?. Example: I took my 1995 Z-28 350 lt1 6- speed in the 1/4 at Mission Raceway, 100% stock. Street tires to a 14.1 second. That was FULLOUT, pedal to floor while shifting. Obviously your not going to do that with these cars. These cars are made for adrenaline pumping YYYEEEHHHAAA FUN
You forgot the 1969 Chevy Corvette L88 with a 427 that ran into the 11 second 1/4 mile.
BULLSHIT...never went that quick....was only 365 net horsepower by the way kid
LOL IT WAS A DOG I owned A FORMAL-ROOF ’69 SCJ 428 TORINO COBRA that would eat it for breakfast!!!! A true 12 second STREET CAR from the factory with 4:30 rear gears
@@CORNDODGER No stock 428 SCJ Torino ever ran 12.'s....bullshit alert. Your'e a bigger bullshitter than the other guy....LOL.....
Not considered a muscle car to most people, they say it's a sports car. I think it was muscle if you used it that way but that's just me.
That's NOT a muscle car. Corvette's were NEVER considered as muscle cars.
😂😂😂If you really thought these were stock 11 sec cars!!! A newer maxima could beat most of these in the qtr
Considering Nissan had nearly 60 years of development to make a faster car, it ought to beat them. You thought you were saying something special too. 🤣🤣🤣
The A12 Roadrunner smoked the clutch doing a burnout. You can see the smoke coming from the clutch.
67 Barracuda 11.6
Not stock it didn't run close to that.
I question some of these posted 1/4 mile times. I had a 68 GTX 440 automatic and it ran consistently 13.5 on street tires. Now I have a 2002 Buick Regal GS supercharged that been modded that can run circles around it with only a V6
Just think, a 2023 Pininfarina Battista got 1/4 mile down to 8.55 sec. Whole lot more money ($2.2 million) for just a few seconds... Think I'll settle for a 2023 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170 which can do the quarter in 8.91 seconds for only $96,666! LOL
Those 8 and 9 second Dodges don't run anywhere close to those reported times outside super specific conditions. In the real world, they aren't even close. I've never even seen the Demon 170 break 10 seconds outside that one run Dodge did. Even on other prepped tracks, it can't run below 10.0 seconds.
What is truly strange is that my Lil Red Express was faster than any of them in the 1/4.
No 1963 Tempest Super Duty?
The Tempest was a beast. It was absolute brilliance to give it a new body in 1963. Wagner recognised that Pontiac's potentially potent 389 V-8 was externally identical to its mundane 326-cube little brother. It made the car fly!
how come u don't have the 64 gto with a 389 tri powered setup which held the record for years as the fastest 1/4 mile car
It must have had that record in your dreams, because the 1965-67 427 Shelby Cobra would crush that car by more than a full second in the 1/4 mile.
@@mikedownload4029 but the 64 gto had the record in the genes book of records for the fastest 1/4 mile production car for years that is a fact
@@mikedownload4029 also the cobra was suppose to beat it but lost plus the gto had way more hp to the wheels 389 tri power
@@mikedownload4029 u do know the 428 cj was a better engine had more power then the 427 over head cam was a pile of junk it kept losing the timing belt it would have been a better engine if they went with gear drive instead of a chain which i sold a 68 mustang cobra with the 428 dual quads but i like my 67 427 ss rs camaro way more
@@jeffrey4547 The interesting thing about this Internet, is that it keeps a forever record of such things. Of course you know I Iooked it up. The GTO in fact did NOT have the record for the fastest 1/4 mile PRODUCTION car. It did, however, hold the record for the quickest MUSCLE car that year. The Cobra was a sports car, so cars like it and the Corvette wouldn't have qualified to compete for quickest muscle car, but they would qualify to compete in the PRODUCTION car category. The only way they got that stock GTO to run 12.8 was with slicks. The Cobra ran quicker than that on stock tires.
Now for what I KNOW as fact. From 1965 until 1986, the 427 Shelby Cobra had the quickest tested 0-60 AND 1/4 mile time of any production car in the world. Both records were officially broken by the Porsche 959 in 1986.
You forgot the 70 Buick STAGE 1.
Hate it when somebody leaves their foot resting on the clutch pedal good way to wear out your clutch for make it wear uneven
@pd8206 I don't think they're too worried about it.
What part of 1960s cars did you not understand?
@Pro1er They are 60s cars. They made a stage package over the counter. Look it up. 1,256 were made in 1969.
@Pro1er Who said anything even remotely close to a clutch pedal. I guess if you even had a 60s car or could afford one, you would understand. Don't be such a dick. You might get someplace in life.
All times set on skinny stock tires
Interesting that this post FAILS to recognize the benchmark that all these cars tried to meet or beat.
The 64 model year super Lark R3 was not only a 150 mph top end car( or 12 MPH FASTER than the Corvette 63-65) but with quarter mile axle was a 12.6 sec at 114 mph runner.
Except for out and out super stockers,Detroit had
NOTHING to match that
In 63-64. And it was tractable on the regular roadways. Not so the super stockers