Another ITALIAN BRIDE? It is Sebastiana Nigliazzo at Mount Carmel Cemetery - Part 12
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The Angel face you see is the Haserot, named “The Angel of Death Victorious". The stoic angel is seated on the marble gravestone of canning entrepreneur Francis Haserot and his family. Holding an extinguished torch upside-down, it represents a symbol of life extinguished. Wings are outstretched and the gaze is straight ahead.
IN THE END, DEATH ALWAYS WINS. LEST THE FACES NOT BE FORGOTTEN...
This channel is focused on casually walking and viewing a handful of the thousands of forgotten names and faces at various cemeteries near and afar. Seeing their faces up close. And when able, telling the stories behind their names.
Most graves are unknown and lost to history.
Some are famous.
And some infamous....
....and some with tragic endings.
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Two more causes of death. Letizia Scalpone (1917 - 1925) died from pneumonia. Teresa Valentini (1915 - 1926) from "chronic periodontitist." I hope someone reading this will have sufficient medical expertise to explain how this condition would cause a death. A condition these days that would be cured with antibiotics?
Great Job Guido!
Chronic periodontitis disease was common, insufficient vitamins, scurvy was prolific. Fruit was the answer and cure. Chronic periodontitis is a severe inflamation of the gums due to bacteria. Early mortality rates were higher because of the lack of A. Dentists, B. Antibiotics were not yet available. Penicillin was just at its true beginnings 1928 Not everything could be treated with penicillin. Just like today penicillin cannot fix every infection.
I hope this clarifies some of your questions
@@Lauriesjourney - Great feedback Laurie -thank you
@@Lauriesjourney She would have died from an infection?
@@beerybill @Guido Panadero yes, even now periodontal disease is a killer if not treated effectively and quickly. They say an infection over the baseline which is the upper jaw can spread easily to the brain. Now imagine a child with periodontitis bacterial infection spreading she would have become septic, the only treatment available was bleed out which involved removing blood from the patient to remove diseased blood. The antibiotic penicillin wasnt introduced until 1928 she died 2 years before which is sad, many deaths in this time was due to poor health, newborn deaths were contributed to RH factor. Now a woman is given a shot if she has - blood. Back then babies just died it is how the world moves forward, a death can lead to a cure. As sad as that statement is, it is very true.
thankyou for the walk on the frozen snow, love looking at old Tomb stones and pictures,,especially on one of Our Soldier who died to have freedom , God bless you Ron and God Bless America 🇺🇸🙏🏻✝️🌹❤️
I had an Aunt who had two babies one lived three days the other was born dead. She had a picture of both of them in their caskets that she kept on her book shelf as long as she was alive. I remember as a child always looking at the pictures and feeling so sad. She would always talk about them with a smile. I will never forget that.
My father's mother, went into labor with twins in 1928. My father was the first to be born. His Mom and brother passed away after she hemorrhaged. It's sad when your birthday, also commemorates the passing away of loved ones.
I love old century cemeteries and their stories of their lives I love the fact how you give everyone respect even the ones that are forgotten I love this channel and hopefully one day when I pass away I have someone just like you come visit my grave and tell the world a little bit about me would be awesome and I thank you for sharing your journey with us as well keep up the good work🎼💜🌼.
I second that
@@ladylaois8184 I'll third that! 😉😉
Good heaven those men were handsome,,, and the ladies were so well dressed and they took pride in themselves,,,,I am an older lady..been an MSN, RN 38 years and i am intrigued by these pictures...i enjoy this after a stressful day at the hospital...thank you for doing this I find it relaxing..i am sure the families cried and so much grief as we do,,they all had loved ones and fave foods and friends , it is just wonderful you give them life again.
Straight away, I looked at the hands, not a normal posture for a little one, so sad seeing all these babies, people died so young in those days, I go to a grave yard near chatsworth about twenty miles away, it’s full of kids from the Victorian times, in some graves there’s six kids in one grave😳 this is the best site going, keep up the good work mate. TMW 🏴🇬🇧
I never thought to look at their hands, but it is a good observation none the less. But something I did notice was the little ones' eyes. They seem I don't know... flat or maybe just come right out and say it DEAD (pun not intended). There's just no life in those eyes 😢!
I love the pictures on the tombstones. Thank heavens for the Italians who put so much into the markers for their loved ones.
OMG. Such beautiful headstones. Just a glimsp of the standing angles.
Thank you
Thx another great Video, sad to see so many children, but always interesting seeing photos.
Poor little angels, when I think of all the illnesses theses poor babies died from, I thank goodness that we have come a long way in fighting diseases so my 3 grandchildren can have a better and healthier life. .RIP little ones.. Thank you Ron for another wonderful but sad video..❤❣💔
March 1925 was a Tri-State huge tornado. Missouri, Illinois & Indiana. Killing 606 in Illinois. Almost all these deaths seemed to be in 1925. Great video ! We always enjoy watching from Ohio.
I was wondering why A lot were dated 1926. Thank you for the answer!
I love Mt Carmel Thursdays. You make the journey so interesting. Almost as if we are there. Thank for for always paying special respects to the veterans. My dad was USMC. Served on Guadalcanal. He was so proud of his service. Although he was an Irish citizen he served the US proudly. Keep up the great work stay well, stay safe. Much love and prayers for a still snowed in NYC
Wow Guadalcanal? What a hero. That was brutal. I’m a World War II history nut, and I know all about the war in the Pacific. I wonder if he served under Chesty Puller. I’m sure he knew him. That leader saved the battles with his quick thinking. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller
@@FacesoftheForgotten my dad was Sgt Denis P. McCarthy. He was part of the initial landing. He I know he had something to do with communications. There is a picture of him in the book Guadalcanal Diary. He was chest deep in water laying down cable. He was a brave man my dad. Sadly he passé at just 6O from Lung cancer. He is buried in Claverton National cemetery on Long Island
I give thanks for your father and his selfless service to our country.❤
@@ninanonna2007 - what a great legacy you have, I wish I could’ve known him and I wish he could’ve lived a lot longer. Doesn’t seem fair, given all that he did for our country.
@@FacesoftheForgotten no. He truly was an amazing man. Raised 6 children 5 boys and me. ( good Irish family). Raised us to be proud Americans and to be proud of who we are. I guess that is why I love History. He instilled that in me. He was always reading something “ historical”. That’s why I find what you do so fascinating. Keep on doing what you do Ron!
I like these pictures of the people in their coffins it's like a forever look of them before time and decomposition takes place
I think baby Frank is very alive. His eyes don’t have the “dead” look that all corpses have. It’s a distinct look that every single corpse that I’ve ever seen had. It’s the same with the tot’s hands, babes don’t have clenched hands all the time and Frank was past the age where babies often have clenched hands.
back then, it was also common to paint eyes onto the eye lids if they died with their eyes closed. The ones I've seen are quite life like.
@@elainelucas8097
It is true what you say, not only then, I am in photography, and I had a deceased client and the next of kin wanted open eyes, but that didn't look like much. Photoshop didn't work, it just wasn't her eyes.
I consult with a stylist and paint the eyes and unbelievably, it really showed. I got tears in my eyes that this was possible.
Real craftsmanship.
Greetings from the Netherlands Europe everyone.
I just looked back again, I enlarged the image....Check out his lips---RETOUCHED. I'm still undecided, but lots of good thoughts from viewers coming...seems most think he was dead in the pic. Hmmm.
@@FacesoftheForgotten yes I also thought the lips looked a bit weird, like outlined.
@@FacesoftheForgotten I’m going to disagree on this one again, not that I’m being awkward but his eyes have a spark of life. It doesn’t matter how many patients I saw that had died, as soon as they passed their eyes lost that spark of life. With regards to the retouching, I went back through family photos dating from the mid1800s to about the 20s or 30s, there were also newspaper clippings and some of the photos had distinct touch up, some it was the eyebrows, others outlining the lips or whatever needed a wee touch up.
You know though, perhaps we are missing the point whether the bairn was alive or dead at that point, it was a tragedy that maternal and child mortality was so high and how fortunate we are that we have vaccinations for those”simple” childhood diseases and infections that could rampage through a community leaving in its wake wee bairns in coffins and heartbroken mothers and fathers
I think baby Frank looks alive just going by the facial expression
They actually took pictures of the person who died looking like they are alive because back then getting pictures while alive was very expensive and it maybe the only picture that they have of the lost one, especially children.
Thank you Ron for this great video! You are toughing it out in the snow and I am sitting on my couch drinking coffee! LOL
That’s hilarious. Well I shot this video a couple of weeks ago I think -so I’m with you -right now I’m by the fireplace!! 🤣
Thank you for being so respectful on your tours thru the cemetery.
The Interbellum, Greatest and Silent generations sure had a hard start at life. And as you pointed out, many never made it past their youth. And it wasn't all that long ago from where we are now. There was a lot of suffering and sacrifice within those generations. A lot of parents lost children to disease and war. Sure, life isn't perfect nowadays but I think we often forget how far we have come in reducing human suffrage due to advancements in science, geopolitics (war), etc. We still have a long way to go but let us never forgot those who brought us to where we are now. Your videos sure do give those generations the respect they highly deserve.
The snow makes the cemetery seem so serene. It is beautiful and so peaceful. Thank you for this video. Bless these souls.
So.many young lives lost. Its so sad. Love how you show respect. I watch another youtube channel called sidestep adventures. They discover lost graves and cemeteries. Alot of the graves are difficult to read but they use a torch to help them read the stones.
It's a mini mag flash light.they are extremely bright. I watch Robert too. These guys are both fantastic at their adventures ✌👍
@Colleen Peacock I too watch sidestep adventures. Robert is so respectful, just like Ron. I love both channels as Ron and Robert bring life to the names of these people who have gone before us.
@@CandyGirl07 my son thinks I'm weird but I find it so interesting. I also vist my local cemetery in the UK, take photos of t graves and research them on the Internet Their live are so interesting and sad at the same time
Another thought provoking video! The children’s pictures today made me exceptionally sad.
I’m also freezing just watching you!!
I think the baby Frank is alive at the time of this picture. For some unknown reason the picture of the baby in the coffin really tore my heart out. Poor baby and poor parents. RIP. Letizia as you said is a story book princess, there is no word for how beautiful she was. So many children. Thank you
I just looked back again, I enlarged the image....Check out his lips---RETOUCHED. Hmmm. I'm still in the middle, but now leaning towards dead. a lot of compelling arguments here from viewers.
Thank you for going back can't wait for part 13...i love this..the pictures are amazing...please go back this is awesome...wait till the weather clears there...here in upstate NY in the mohawk Valley we just received 3 feet,,,..had to watch this twice..loved it
So sad all the children that died so young.
@@DanaTheInsane Exactly... People take for granted now the life they have, that they might not have had pre-vaccination.
Only recently discovered your Chanel and I’m very much addicted. I’ve always been interested in history but we have nothing remotely like your cemeteries here in Australia. Most are flat lawn with plaques so unless your looking for someone in particular it’s not that exciting. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Another great video Ron so many children and some awsome pictures . I love to hear the crispness of the snow when you are walking .☘
More interesting stuff Ron thanks for trekking out in the snow to bring us some cool stuff. Sgt. Dioguardi received the CIB (Combat Infantryman Badge). Definitely a true hero. Chances he probably had that picture taken the day he received it. Keep em coming Ron I alway look forward to seeing your videos.
It is also unbelievable how good the photos remain after all the years that have passed.
I also make these tiles, but it remains to be seen whether the quality remains the same over the years.
Greetings from the Netherlands Europe everyone.
How do you make the tiles? They're very nice.
Computerbugie, How do you go about creating the tiles? It sounds very interesting.
@@maryfreebed9886 Sorry!, for the late response, it's a big investment for 1 tile.
I have a company in the Netherlands Europe, makes T-shirts, mugs, Clocks etc.
I can't explain more, because this is Ron's channel.
@@twistoffate4791 it's a big investment for 1 tile.
I have a company in the Netherlands Europe, makes Tshirts, mugs, Clocks etc.
I can't explain more, because this is Ron's channel.
I like the cemetery. Beautiful pictures, sculptures, and headstones. Very impressive. Thank you for the tour even in that cold weather.👋
I know these babies are In Heaven but it’s still heartbreaking
Yes it is, thank God there in Heaven with Jesus 🙏🏻✝️
Yess it's heartbreaking even my heart is heavy when seeing these babies / children.
my son got killed and my question is why did a loving god let my son get killed what did i do wrong to lose my only son
The beautiful young girl age 7 or 8 years old WOW she's so beautiful!!! I can't believe she's only a child she looks like a gorgeous young woman ❤ so many babies & young brides. We are so fortunate today with modern medicine
Love that the love for your videos are growing and the number of clueless trolls out there disliking your videos are going down....Keep up the great work Sir and.......WE'RE IN !!!
thanks. trolls will always be there, it's ok, they don't matter, ty!
1925 must have been a particularly rough year for Italian families.
Thank you so much for showing us Sergeant Joseph as well as sharing all the additional facts with us.. truly inspiring as today is Memorial Day!
Lovely pictures today. Thanks for the tour.
Wow that video was amazing!..Love the pictures on the Gravestones, they give you a look into their souls, so fascinating.
I really enjoy your freeze frame. I am able to get a better look at them. Thank-you so much for sharing with us. I love your videos.
Love all your video's, lets all try and help these poor souls
Vincent (Vincenzo) Alleruzzo was murdered by his brother-in-law Soccorso Feliece D'Andrea. The latter claimed Vincent was mistreating his sister, Vincent's wife. He managed to avoid arrest until late 1937 in Milwaukee where he admitted guilt. Details are in various newspapers that can be identified via googling. None are free so being parsimonious by nature maybe someone reading this has access and can provide details.
Holy cow this is brilliant!! I wish I could pin all your comments to the top!!
LIKE STEPPING BACK IN TIME JUST AMAZING PICTURES THANK YOU FOR SHARING GOD BLESS
Another amazing video with so many beautiful pictures.. may they all rip 🙏🏼❤️
You guys are amazing, keep up the good work
Luisa D'Agostino died from pneumonia. At some point she began calling herself Elizabeth. That name appears in the 1920 census , also in the Mt. Carmel Cemetery record.
Great job on this video. I’m amazed at the number photographed who died so very young. Looking forward to more! Keep them coming!
I really enjoyed seeing the photos
I love these old photos,beautiful...they have a way of telling stories❤❤
Some beautiful pictures and weren't those women so pretty. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 🙏💖
rest in peace for all thats buried there
My family took pictures of all their dead; sometimes with the coffin propped up. This continued into the early 1940s. I sent all of them to the family geneologist. Now I wish I had made copies. They were poor and most didn't have many pictures taken of them when they are alive. 🥺
So many young children. So sad.
They are all intriguing, some just stand out more! Good video!!
I think baby Frank is a post mortem picture. I agree, his hands don't look like how I baby would naturally have them. Thank you for the video! I, because of you, read and researched post mortem photography, and WOW! It just amazes me. I couldn't believe how they posed them for pictures. Some were standing up, so family could have a photo. ALWAYS informative!
So much history in those graves!!!
Love your videos!!!👍🙋🏻♀️😇
The same thing that killed film legend Rudolph Valentino who also died in 1926....no antibiotics when infection set in after surgery.
Thank you Ron! I love all your video's. Best regards!
I just like your videos so much! They are so very interesting!! Thank you! Monica
11:10 What a beautiful lady! She looks like my mother in law at her young age
I'm pretty sure the picture of infant girl, carmelita, was taken after death.
Another great video! Thanks Ron!
Be careful.chicago currently,at least my part,is being pounded with blizzard like conditions,heavy snowfall.driving is not advised if at all avoidable.stay home.its baaaaaaaaddddd
Michigan too, we're supposed to get 8-12" tonight, with winds of 25 mph, gusts of 45 mph!!
Thank you so much for the portrayal of that hero who gave the last full measure.
My uncle frank Jay left his leg in lorraine france in 44 told me that the only heros he knew were still there.
God bless your uncle, like I said, the greatest generation!!!
I am from Bavaria/Germany and love to watch your videos and see all the graves of former european immigrants. Maybe someday I´ll see the graves of ancestors?!
0:28 The first picture of the lady, when the camera is not close to it, it does look like Native American. I thought it before you said it. That is amazing how her hair style and the outfit she is wearing plays tricks with the eyes.
2:34 I'm guessing alive.
6:36 I agree completely! Disney princesses have nothing on this magical beauty. Such beautiful lady.
I definitely love to see the pictures of them. I can’t believe how young some were when they died
Another great video! Thank you!
Beautiful lovely cemetery always beautiful Graves love all the pictures. 😊
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE JOSEPH 🙏❤🕊
Natalie, are you bing watching my channel?? LOL 😆
@@FacesoftheForgotten LOL YES IAM RON , LOVE IT
The artistry of some of these monuments is amazing.
Ugh I just realized I still had not subscribed to your channel. 🤦♀️ chalk it up to a senior moment. Another great video.
Another great video , We watch on our smart tv ..so cant always get to like but do so when on phone 😀
Goodness, so many people died so young. It's just one after the other.
So love the pics on the Graves. The Aunt I am named after died 2 months before I was born. She has a pic on her stone which is gorgeous. Makes me smile every time I see it.
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@@deebreaux9467 it's my married name. My husband is from Texas if you know any Elkins from there. He was adopted when he was 2. That's how he became an Elkins.
I have some information on Vinceslao Giorgino (approx 15:16). Very interesting. He was born in Benestare Italy on May 24 of 1895. He immigrated to the United States and became a Naturalized Citizen in 1920. He was drafted into the military and I found his WWI Draft Registration Card. At some point, he took the name James George. On November 25 of 1924 he was doing repair work on some railroad tracks when he was hit by a traveling crane carrying coal bunkers, which severed his right leg at the hip. He was rushed to the hospital but died early in the morning of the 26th of November. They actually arrested the craneman, Frank Vestuto, on the technical charge of manslaughter. I did not find any information that he was actually convicted of the charge. It appeared to be accidental..so I would hope not.
But that is the story of Vinceslao Giorgino, aka James George.
I just love this stuff..thank you for what you do!
Baby Frank's pic for me was taken after he passed
I think they painted his eyes in on the photograph. They look too perfect and fake. But who knows.
When I visit the cemeteries I take a bag of plain flour to rub into the inscriptions that brings out the info needed. I always seek permission first and the flour is washed away by water or rain. It is advised not to use cement dust or any other type of materials as damage can be done to the stone to be read. Great walkabout. Cheers.
Thank you Jossie!
Beautiful photographs, but very sad to see that so many died so young ;(
SGT Joseph thanks for your service may you rest in peace
It's amazing to me how nice looking all of those people were! From babies to adults! Bless them all!
My father in law was in the 3rd division, like Sgt Joseph. He survived, he got a lot of medals, but it sure did effect him.
Wow this place is soo awesome I see why it you different days too go there different times stay safe and ty again ✨☀️😊💖
If I had to guess that baby was alive
Those eyes are not painted
At the beginning of the last century , it was common to prop the dead body into a pose and photograph it.
I think Mount Carmel is my favorite! Crunchy snow, I can hear your footsteps.
Looks amazing with all that snow...💜💜
That was a great one! As always! Keep it up! Please!🙂
You would be surprised by how many of those pictures were taken in death. Way back when it was very expensive to get your pictures taken. Most people couldn't afford to take them until they died
In episode 11 you found the grave site of Nick Cacucci with picture of a child with no dates.
I believe their child was Maria Cacucci born Nov 30, 1926 Chicago and died March 28, 1928 Chicago. Nick's real name was Vitonicola born July 12, 1895 Triggiano, Puglia, Italy died Aug 19, 1983 Chicago. He worked for F&S Transit. His wife was Rose Coppola born 1902 Manhattan, NY died Dec 5, 1978 Chicago. Their son Frank Peter Cacucci was born Dec 14, 1929 Chicago and died May 15, 1989. He served in Korea June 15, 1951 to Jan 18, 1952. He was a retired Chicago Police Detective from 1956-1984 and married Christine Ferrara. Christine was born Aug 7, 1932 and died Aug 2, 2020 Chicago. They had 3 children, Frank David Cacucci, Karen (Dan O'Kelly) and Cynthia (David Prazuch). Karen had prev marriage to John Gammuto and Karen had one prev marr to Joseph LaCognata. Nick can be found as Nick or Vito; sometimes Nick V. He immigrated to USA 1921 and naturalized as a US citizen. Frank's parents were Francesco Cacucciolo and Madia Addante.
Great research 🙏🕊️
You need to get a high powered flashlight , you will be able to read them . Thank you for making these videos. Love them . Never know when one may turn up being a relatives to go on the family tree .
Thank you for highlighting the servicemen 🇺🇸
I love these grave ceramic photos. It's amazing how well preserved and clear they still are. Baby Frankie looks alive to me. Sometimes they did retouch photos and in Frankie's case it looks that the eyes were touched up a bit. That doesn't mean he was dead in the photo. Also they never painted open eyes on the body, it was always done on the photo itself or the negative. The ones in the caskets are quite obvious but I'm pretty sure baby Carmelita was dead when the photo was taken.
Agreed. In fact they are surviving way better than some of the stone monuments themselves.
Letizia would have been eight years old when she died. That doesn't look like a picture of an eight year old. Or am I missing something?
Those were my thoughts, too. The picture doesn't even look like a real person, but more like an illustration or a drawing. Whatever it is it certainly does not look like an eight year old child.
I thought the same thing.
I thought it looked like a drawing. It's possible that the original photograph was taken in death and that they decided to have it drawn as though she was alive. What looks like a drape hanging down behind her head could actually be the side of her coffin.
I have been sitting here pondering these same thoughts. Of the girl at min 6:48. Looks so much older than 8. I had to keep rewinding to see if I was missing something. Wowzers what a beautiful picture though.
yes, it look fairy tale book. maybe you are right. dense look completely real. hmmm...
Pardon me but the "dead giveaway" in the postmortem picture of the child is how absolutely still he is. A living toddler would have been a nightmare to photograph in the days when if you didn't hold absolutely still you'd be just a blur. Dead subjects are eerily still.
My sentiments exactly.
He looks alive to me. Maybe he had a bone diease which caused his hands to look that way just a thought
I thought the same
All of these young ones.😪😢
I love these grave photos.thank you for showing them.new sub,glad I found your channel ❤️
The first women may have had Grave’s disease. That causes bulging eyes
Nice catch. Thought the same thing!
I think Frank may be dead. His eyes are neither particularly focused, nor fixed and "corpse like". More compelling is that both hands, but especially the left hand and fingers appear dark and swollen, evidencing post mortem, deoxygenated blood has collected due to gravity, once the heart had stopped. Because of this, Frank may have been dressed in tights to hide more pronounced post mortem lividity in his legs.
"Thursday afternoons at mount carmel" returns, when the weather is better it would cool if you could do a livestream at a cemetery
For sure, someday. Working up to that!!