12 Worthy Upgrades for my John Deere 1023E (1025R)

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  • Опубліковано 21 січ 2021
  • Hi Folks, it's worth mentioning this is a third party review, not a paid promotion. This is just my opinion on these items, make your own, find cheaper, etc. This is what has worked for me so far.
    Here are the links.
    The first ones are from my Amazon selection, then the others follow. If you buy them here, that helps out my channel Florida Deere, thanks in advance.
    Grn, Blk, Gry, Yel Coupler Cap Set www.amazon.com/Compact-Tracto...
    Titan Bolts On Hooks www.amazon.com/Titan-Attachme...
    This link for the seat spring upgrade, not listed in this video, but another more recent video I did.
    www.amazon.com/dp/B00EIKD0SM/...
    4X4 lever= www.ebay.com/itm/185120042216...
    www.bxpanded.com/piranha-toot...
    www.ebay.com/itm/185664780581...
    muddscustoms.com/
    www.ebay.com/itm/john-deere-1...
    www.ebay.com/itm/john-deere-1...
    www.greenpartstore.com/John-D...
    www.ebay.com/itm/2X-LED-Tail-...
    The lights and the tool box I figure you can find on your own. I did get the BLV11217 from my local John Deere dealer, but Green Parts is good too. It does come in a huge box, so shipping is probably a good chuck of money.
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  • @davidcarleton6928
    @davidcarleton6928 6 місяців тому +2

    Those lights will shine in your eyes when you look to the rear. I mounted mine directly in the FEL Boom. There are holes in the boom where the bucket level attaches. Make a 90 degree bracket that fastenes into the hole and is in tension with the vertical plate. One screw is sufficient. Have had them there for years with no issues. Well protected by the bucket. Gives good light to your work area.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  6 місяців тому

      You are 100% accurate about them shining on your eyes, I ditched them after a bit. I would have ditched them long very quickly if I used my tractor at night, but I don't, so they hung around for awhile. I have the ROPS on now too, so I have some additional options, but again, I hardly ever use it at night, so I haven't done any more lighting upgrades. I really need to do an update video. Thanks for watching.

  • @coder010
    @coder010 3 роки тому +10

    Those are the best grades I have yet so to see on any video, some of these I never knew about, thanks for sharing

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому

      Thanks man, I'm glad it was helpful and most were relatively inexpensive save maybe the rear 3rd SCV.

  • @chrism8812
    @chrism8812 3 роки тому +4

    Thank your posting. I am going to do several of the upgrades you have now seeing them installed.

  • @OrangeismyNewGreen
    @OrangeismyNewGreen 3 роки тому +3

    Sweet upgrades, like the lights bars 👍🏻🙋🏼‍♂️

  • @greghelmick2723
    @greghelmick2723 Рік тому +2

    Good idea. I owned a 10 25 r John deere. Good tractor. Thanks.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому

      Thanks, I need to do an update of some sorts on upgrades I've done since. Thanks for watching.

  • @BackyardMaine
    @BackyardMaine 2 роки тому +2

    You have some cool upgrades. Thanks for sharing.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks man, I tried to showcase good ones, I need to do an update video on which ones were good, so-so or not good. Thanks again for watching.

  • @michaelogilvy4400
    @michaelogilvy4400 3 роки тому +4

    Good stuff. Like what you’ve done!!

  • @williamcoffman7149
    @williamcoffman7149 3 роки тому +5

    those are some great ideas...i especially like the front axle relief valve....there are so many tractors our there that have blown the front seal and fluid running out of them just for that issue alone on so many models....ill make sure to get one for myself....

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому

      Yep William, I had seen a lot of stories online, so went ahead and got one for that reason. I didn't want to be the next "victim"

  • @watkinstreefarm6880
    @watkinstreefarm6880 3 роки тому +5

    I need to get a couple of those bucket hooks & that bucket tooth bar.

  • @barrycooper6607
    @barrycooper6607 3 роки тому +3

    GREAT Ideas!! Thanks for sharing

  • @RockhillfarmYT
    @RockhillfarmYT 3 роки тому +3

    Lot of good upgrades

  • @waltbennett5503
    @waltbennett5503 Рік тому +1

    Toothbar - not yet
    Bucket hooks from Titan - yes and love them. Ground smooth the inside of the hooks though. They come fairly sharp.
    Pressure relief - not yet
    Tie downs - haven't needed them. Got wheel tie down straps instead.
    Clevis - don't need
    Hydraulic caps - gonna get me some!
    4x4 shifter - Maybe - been using my heel OK so far.
    Traction lock - probably
    Lights - zip tied very similar ones to higher up on the rops. Also replaced all bulbs with LEDs.
    3rd SCV - don't think I'll need that. Have Pat's that work well enough.
    2nd Tool box - don't think I'll need one
    Great idea on the tail lights!
    Two things that I've found REALLY helpful - big mirrors for certain, and a stainless steel spinner knob on the steering wheel. That knob is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Makes working tight spaces a breeze.

  • @treylem3
    @treylem3 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks man, great content, I believe it applies to my 2305.👍

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, Agreed, most if not all items should cross as they are basically the same tractor. Thanks for watching.

  • @RTWGraphics
    @RTWGraphics Рік тому +2

    The magnets are a smart touch.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому

      Funny you should point that out, just last week, I took those off and put on new OEM like lights again. I had three reasons. A I found themm much cheaper than Deere, B The old ones broke and C I sold my bush hog, so it's very unlikely I'll break them again. But yes, I agree, the magnets maybe were the coolest part about that set-up. Thanks for watching Ryan.

  • @HiveMind2024
    @HiveMind2024 3 роки тому +3

    Magnets...great idea!

  • @digdrivediy
    @digdrivediy 3 роки тому +3

    Nice video and all really nice upgrades. I particularly like that trailer tie down bracket on the loader. I had never seen those so I'm going to look into something like that for my older tractor. Probably have to build it for my old clunker but still great concept. Good job.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +2

      I got the idea from Courtney at Good Works Tractor, he made a video opining about the shortcomings of modern tractors and one of them was tie down locations which was true. But I'm only good at stealing others ideas, haha. If you check them out and buy there, should they have what you need, use coupon code GWT.

  • @TractorHoarders
    @TractorHoarders 3 роки тому +7

    Good job. I enjoyed this as we have thought about many of the same upgrades and you have pulled the trigger on them. I’m still sitting around thinking about them. 😆
    Also, I think your pace was about perfect. You covered a good chunk of stuff, straight and to the point. Excellent video!

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks man, I'm trying to deliver content that's useful and helpful is my main goal. Maybe stuff I like to see, I've also been on your channel a few times too.

  • @jeanvaljohn3921
    @jeanvaljohn3921 3 роки тому +4

    Good ideas , well done
    Link to those rops lights please ( brake ,signal, hazards)

  • @projectswithjw
    @projectswithjw Рік тому +2

    Nice Stuff!

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому

      Yes, thank you, I need to do an update on what worked well and what didn't. Thanks for watching.

  • @mattharmon3838
    @mattharmon3838 Рік тому +2

    The best up grade is the 324 424 yanmar its the same engine as 3032.

  • @azaleaoutdoors8109
    @azaleaoutdoors8109 3 роки тому +6

    I’m interested in those lights I’ve broken a couple of the stock lenses. Thanks for the video.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      I just found them, I'll add them to the description. I also have two videos on their replacement and how that came about.

    • @Onebad63
      @Onebad63 2 роки тому

      @@FloridaDeere hunt tty hi

  • @RandyBeretta-db5bg
    @RandyBeretta-db5bg 6 місяців тому +2

    🟢Great Video.!🟢👍

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for the kind words, I need to do an update video on upgrades, on how all these weathered and maybe a few of the newer ones. Thanks for watching.

  • @oneillam1990
    @oneillam1990 3 роки тому +4

    The 4x4 lever looks slick but I have no problem just hitting mine up and down with the heel of my foot.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      Yep, it's just an extra convenience, but if you're skilled enough with the foot that work too. Thanks for watching.

    • @bobpease6924
      @bobpease6924 2 роки тому +1

      @@FloridaDeere where can I order the 4 wheel drive handle? 2019, 1023e.

    • @howardmoody9379
      @howardmoody9379 6 місяців тому

      yes please because the link didn't work.@@bobpease6924

  • @jeffbuelt6953
    @jeffbuelt6953 3 роки тому +5

    I have a 1025 I love it where or what company sells the attachment to your bucket the teeth.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      It's the Pirahna toothbar. I have a video on it as well, 4 Reasons I Choose the Pirahna Toothbar. I need to do an update video as that one was just the initial purchase and thoughts and now that I've used it, I can comfortably comment that it's been a great addition.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/GjrW3V6Sx7E/v-deo.html

  • @delormey
    @delormey 5 місяців тому +3

    The 4x4 shifter lever. Where can I get the knob for it? Or even better the model number.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  5 місяців тому

      This is not where I got mine, but there are multiple places you can grab one, this is just one example... www.ebay.com/itm/275403414801 Thanks for watching.

  • @truckerray7533
    @truckerray7533 3 роки тому +4

    These are freakin awesome!!! I really like that toothbar on the H120 loader bucket, i like the tie downs, the hydraulic 3rd link & valve lever.
    Im really excited about the rear magnet brake/hazard light bar you put on the back. I didnt know if anything like this had ever exsisted for the 1025R's or not I been "ESPECIALLY" wanting to put something like these on mine. Im just blown away by these light bars. How are they for brightness & functionality??? Do they work/funtion with the turn signal rocker switch on the dash panel (i dunno why JD made em work as "turn signals" as i never use this funtion, lol)??? Im so tired of worrying bout my lights getting knocked off of tired of watching of them when i do real close work against my house & my shop. Ive knocked em once already & my uncle knocked em twice & twisted one of em. Ive already replaced one amber lence & one red lence. Thankya for sharing this video. New subscriber to your channel. Kinduh hard to imagin Florida having "winter", lol. Come to Colorado. . . .we'll show ya'll whattuh snowflake looks like lol lol lol lol😂😂😂😂😂😂. take care & God bless. Watch Tractor Time With Tim here on UA-cam. Hes what inspired me to buy my little "Johnny" 3 yrs ago.🚜

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +2

      Yes, I have definitely mentioned TTWT quite a bit along with GWT, as well as some other little guys like me. Thanks for watching and yes our winters are tough, it was 94 last Friday:-(. If you watch more of my videos, you'll see I'm on the cost sensitive side....not cheap, just a little more mindful of price/cost. I don't have advertisers to help me with equipment, so it's got to earn itself a place quick. The lights haven't been a huge upgrade, so may want to shop around for brighter ones. Being there's no snow here, I'm almost never out when it's dark, I believe or assume what tractors do in the dark is mostly snow removal. The Toothbar has been awesome and I can't recommend enough a rear 3rd SCV. However, TTWT and Summit have since come out with a 2, 3 and 4 SCV that you can get, so you may look into that before you get the Deere one like I have. The lights were mainly my frustration with Deere charging $175 A LIGHT, which is absurd. I love Deere, always have literally almost, but that kind of stuff bugs me. Anyway, thanks again for watching and I hope I'll be posting more good stuff that makes it entertaining as well as educational.

    • @truckerray7533
      @truckerray7533 3 роки тому +2

      @@FloridaDeere Thankya for gitting back with me. Okie dokie. . . .i'll check into the light bar situation. Im just blown away at the the fact ya had em & i didnt know whether or not they even excisted, & i was just thinkin bout something like that idea here a few days ago. 90 FREAKIN 4 this time of year down there already??? WOW!!! Thats a bit warm alright. That just like central & southern Arizona. . . . lemme tellya. Stuff on these John Deeres DEFINATELY ARE NOT CHEAP!!! It sure makes a feller upset for sure. I try not to run mine at night in the winter time here as i have no cab of anykind for warmth. Theres several different styles and makes out there on the market like the "Mauser" cab. Its like the "CADILLAC" of sub compact tractor cabs. Im sure ya've seen em. Depending on watchya want or git with it. . . . a guy will average from $5Gs to 7Gs for that critter, and its permanent fixture once its there. Done checked on that there deal. I like the idea of a canvis cab of somekind. At least i could take it off in the spring & summer months & be out in the open with fresh air! I know whatchya mean bout trying save & not spend a whole lot. Ive "extended" most of my operating levers myself on my lil guy. I still need to do the differential lock foot pedal on the floor down there & the seat adjustment lever. I wannuh add mirrors of somekind cuz i do alot of back travel as well. Yes I'll definatly be checking out your other videos for sure, thankya. When a guy is out on his tractor for whatever the reason may be, he has not a care in the world. He's in his OWN WORLD. . . . . .!!! Its called "Tractor Theropy"!!! At least thats what my uncle & I call it, lol. Take care & talk with ya soon???? Tractor safe, hoss. My names Rodney🚜😎

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +2

      @@truckerray7533 Yep, agreed, i work in real estate, so certainly I have to get along with people, but we all have our limits, so I love my Tractor Therapy as well.

    • @truckerray7533
      @truckerray7533 3 роки тому +2

      @@FloridaDeere Yes, awesome! I just had some "tractor theropy" here this afternoon. 88°F here in S.W. colorado. Been digging with my 260 backoe, trying to dig out tree stumps

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +2

      @@truckerray7533 Hey, I like people, but we all have our quotes on them too. I recharge with people for the alone time and I recharge during the alone time for the people time.

  • @wraith3951
    @wraith3951 Рік тому +2

    Where did you get that slick looking front axle dip stick?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому

      on eBay, check John Deere 1025 Accessories I believe. He is a bit hit and miss on whether he has some stock, but I've seen other ones too from other guys on the forums. Thanks for watching.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому

      www.ebay.com/itm/185664780581?hash=item2b3a7bb925:g:PLwAAOSw~SZgQBUY&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8NTCF25LTm4SenkoCB6Fw3ja52LojId93RgdO%2FXQmp%2B5wk3sColWWPkkFxV7%2BBnRQDQt1sXxB7ikW97CqxnmIBhxHrHzhRWPJck4%2FeE%2FxJUc1J7A4vqpF2Kxkfk541JckH44pJSnAuKqHaqJ%2BWts7ShqA60ZdYagk3PBinS7%2B2lFd11IQ6PFakzgLq%2Bd%2FZqY4juU0GWPdv78zhj31CqRRtbEie%2FqJ11wCtWHek8K%2FXF7fJIncd2UWmBjzcAyMjkZrNH5hzIYt1ut2iGNIygw4VCh7xecpCeR4ZAdp5K%2B%2FblN0UAYSEUbQvCYnoTt5BHHrg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM4r32_p1h

  • @chex313
    @chex313 3 роки тому +3

    You meant plugs not caps when referring to the colored items for the female fittings. Caps are for the hose ends...Nice list tho...

  • @ddsig2264
    @ddsig2264 3 роки тому +2

    Any regrets with going with the 1023 v 1025 the price has me thinking 1023 do you mow with it and how's the mowing thanks . Nice vid.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      No regrets, I love the 1023E and I do mow with it, as well as till, stump grind, bush hog, box blade and more. To me the extra $2500 wasn't worth what the extra the 1025R gives me. I did like the very nice seat and the 3 point hitch position control, but I easily live without them. The other features were nice, but hardly worth any extra to me. Now this is not to say that you're a fool for spending the extra money for a 1025R. If you like those extra features, pony up the extra dough. Just my $.02

    • @ddsig2264
      @ddsig2264 3 роки тому

      @@FloridaDeere Thanks .

  • @xijinping8578
    @xijinping8578 3 роки тому +2

    We are whites wheel weights

  • @cadet28
    @cadet28 Рік тому +2

    Nice upgrades… the link for the lever isn’t working. Do you know where I could get one? Thanks

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому +1

      Ebay and put in John Deere 1025 accessories. Thanks for watching.

    • @cadet28
      @cadet28 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for answering… didn’t see any.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому

      @@cadet28 www.ebay.com/itm/185545519446?hash=item2b335ff156:g:sWQAAOSw9D1erbYt&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsFBZvhNR1B2yRJZCvOE6ri%2BIx472Bq9MLZIsNcGd5Z2Bfii0DDAeWK2WPTHWTp36uBhsrM91EXY4o47g6HXY6DlcTxWxcXuOcpuaYtEjR2z%2F3YQsSxst0eSEizAYbXxVkrSaoJQS6LNT3yafwesBs5UE6yyCBikx20SpIq5ohz0QGp7cADphzmiX316jeOhmA%2BkjB6qUOCLLAfeIXCO29JBFW6Kl5yMxvIaQJ0VTMbt0%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8aMtpvlYA

  • @dennishotchkiss4391
    @dennishotchkiss4391 3 роки тому +4

    I can’t find the source for the 4wd drive lever can you tell me where you bought it?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      www.ebay.com/itm/184854751885?hash=item2b0a33aa8d:g:sWQAAOSw9D1erbYt

  • @brandonh4127
    @brandonh4127 3 роки тому +3

    Where did you get all the 3rd scv parts? Looking to upgrade my 2021 1023e

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому

      Deere has a kit BLV 11217 I believe, but check out TTWT, he has a few options from Summit as well. Not sure which is better, but options are good. Thanks for watching.

    • @brandonh4127
      @brandonh4127 3 роки тому +1

      @@FloridaDeere Thank you sir, I will check it out

  • @chrisj.3507
    @chrisj.3507 2 роки тому +2

    Could you please tell me where you got the toolbox to put on? I can’t find them anywhere. Thanks

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому

      Chris, here is the part number link, but I would use this number and go to your local dealer first to see if they have one, you can avoid shipping cost and trying to build rapport with the local dealer never hurts. Thanks for watching man.

    • @machineblues2011
      @machineblues2011 7 місяців тому

      What is the john deere part number for the tool box? Did you buy or make the bracket?

  • @jessebailey2630
    @jessebailey2630 3 роки тому +4

    Where can you purchase the enhanced 4x4 lever?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому

      this same guy makes the 4X4 lever too, www.ebay.com/itm/john-deere-1025r-parts-and-accessories/184625678617

  • @delete5617
    @delete5617 3 роки тому +3

    Can't find the dipstick with pressure relief. Any ideas where to find it?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      It becomes unavailable sometimes, let me see if I can track one down.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      eBay says last one, but he usually makes more, www.ebay.com/itm/184864285792?hash=item2b0ac52460:g:PLwAAOSw~SZgQBUY

  • @bobpease6924
    @bobpease6924 2 роки тому +2

    Checked all the links but did not see the 4 wheel drive handle. Can you tell me where it came from?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому

      Bob, try this one out, www.ebay.com/itm/185120042216?hash=item2b1a03ace8:g:sWQAAOSw9D1erbYt

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому

      Also, thanks for watching👍

  • @mark31383
    @mark31383 2 роки тому +2

    do you have a link for the front axle vent? thanks!

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому

      It has changed several times, if you go to John Deere 1025 accessories on ebay, the guy selling them should show up....I really think by now he should be sending me some sort of commission, LOL! Just kidding, glad I could help out and thanks for watching Woody.

  • @stan5949
    @stan5949 2 роки тому +2

    Where can I get the front axle relief valve dipstick?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  Рік тому

      Sorry, not sure why I didn't see this message earlier, look on eBay, "John Deere 1025 accessories". The guy's marketing for the part is a little suspect. Thanks for watching.

  • @waynehouck1157
    @waynehouck1157 3 роки тому +3

    You have a lot of nice upgrades on your tractor. Are you a MTF member?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      Yes sir, been since 2013, but the forum on SCUTS seems somewhat inactive, while the GT forum is very active, it's weird.

    • @waynehouck1157
      @waynehouck1157 3 роки тому +1

      @@FloridaDeere I joined in 2007. Lot of changes there over the years. I'm mostly in the JD GT forum.

    • @chrism8812
      @chrism8812 3 роки тому +1

      @@waynehouck1157
      what are you guys talking about, can you send me link or something about the forums

  • @contryfid
    @contryfid 3 роки тому +5

    where did you find the 4wd selector rod?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому

      I have listed all the links in the description, the 4X4 lever is one of the eBay links. The guy also sells the traction lock pedal and the front axle relief valve dip stick.

    • @howardmoody9379
      @howardmoody9379 6 місяців тому

      I can't get your links to work, can you give a website, non ebay please.
      @@FloridaDeere

  • @skoffco
    @skoffco 2 роки тому +2

    How did you attach your triangle reflector to the back of your seat?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому

      It came that way from the dealer. I haven't messed with it since. Thanks for watching.

    • @skoffco
      @skoffco 2 роки тому +1

      @@FloridaDeere Interesting, my 2022 model is mounted on the far left of the tractor. Looks much better centered on the seat I think.

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому

      @@skoffco Yep, in 2019, that's how they came. They also came much cheaper in 2019, I got lucky, super lucky.

  • @dalelowery907
    @dalelowery907 3 роки тому +3

    Where did you get the axel vent

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      on eBay, search John Deere 1025 accessories and it's the same guy that sells the traction lock pedal and the 4X4 lever, I think his name is Robert.

  • @jacobbock5720
    @jacobbock5720 3 роки тому +3

    Where did you purchase the axle pressure relief valve?

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      From one of the guys on the Facebook page. There may be a more direct link, but on eBay, it's under John Deere 1025 accessories I believe

  • @jamesberg3106
    @jamesberg3106 2 роки тому +1

    Not trying to pick at your video which is solid. Where is your ROPS? Stuff happens and it happens fast

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  2 роки тому

      It's been on and off and on again and again. It's a struggle, true stuff happens, but one has to decide if hitting stuff and limiting the tractor's access to things is worth the rare, but important safety benefit. It is currently on and I may have adjusted/figured enough things out to make it work keeping them on, however, they are slanted towards the rear giving some but not total protection. Having them straight up makes the tractor basically unusable for my property with the restrictions it has. Thanks for watching James.

  • @liffy8333
    @liffy8333 3 роки тому +2

    All the links to everything you did except the ones I want... LOL
    because you can find it yourself, SMH

    • @FloridaDeere
      @FloridaDeere  3 роки тому +1

      Which ones were you looking for? Maybe I can track them down.