I live in Santry and to me Ballymun was like New York or Berlin ,the music was amazing Pink Floyd, BobMarley, Yazoo , Franky goes to Hollywood, UB 40,The Doors,And ABBA blasted out of all the flats day and night,I had a vision of God and The New Jerusalem right on my door...I love the place the people the shops, Christmas and the snow of 1981 it was my wonderland...I never felt depressed I rode wild horses,I dated wonderfully girls who were so full of life, I dance to Triller the weekend it was released in Cecilia house,O, to have lived as I did back then, what I would give right now to just go back for a day, bless you Ballymun you were beyond my wildest dreams...
The drugs ruined bullmun and all the good area’s which are still ruined to this day)) God bless you all guys and girls from ballymun and so on )) I really good music and great people who would help ya if you were stuck for a bita sugar or tea whatever you needed they all stuck together)) The shops in the Luton vans caravan shops so many good memories I really enjoyed watching this)) Thanks for sharing it with us all)))
I was born in coultry Rd number 18 4th floor. Then 121 sillouge avenue the field see the library. Now still see how much I got from there adventure, creativity and just a great community. Till I was 15 moves to Rathmines. Still went back to school till I ws 18. Now still remember so much . I hated Rathmines
I remember everything about old Ballymun! I'd give anything to go back .. so much lost ! I have such fond memories and I had a brilliant childhood ! Lived in Balcurris Road flats, just beside the Shopping Centre!
Great soundtrack and very thought provoking subject. It's shocking to think that people lived in those sort conditions with bleak prospects and little hope. It was same for many I knew, grew up with and went to school with around the same time this video was made. If anyone thinks that the current recession is worse than the '80's then they'd do well to look long and hard at this and see just how tough those times really were. The only thing better then was the sense of community and the music.
Ballymun years ago and I remember the caravans used as shops and a Luton van shop!! Ballymun was a great place around that time because there wasn’t as much drugs as their is today!! And all the good people had respect for each other and they were all very good folk back then!!!!! I remember them old escort vans and them shops there and the good old times alright))))
I lived in Eammon Ceant Tower on the 11th floor, with two kids, smelly lifts were always broken, no joke dragging a pram, groceries and two kids up that amount of stairs! I hated the place
Great footage of the flats ect. They could look really depressing on a wet winters day. I did,nt think anywhere could look worse - untill I went overseas and saw some real bad - ass dumps. When I came back, Ballymun looked so sweet !
Yeah, but it's true what you said first, "They could look really depressing on a wet Winter's day..." I mean, a country like *Ireland,* fer kerrissakes, where it's drizzling and overcast all the time (when it's not out - and - out _'lashing,'_ ) - did they _have_ to make 'em _grey??_ No doubt the architects would have said they were simply trying to remain true to the materials and the 'brutalist aesthetic' (because they're _obviously_ not gonna say "well, we had the Corpo and the NBA constantly on our backs saying 'Yes, but can it be done _cheaper?!'_ ") Somebody should have pulled them aside and explained to them what the term 'brutal' means to somebody that _doesn't_ have a whole slew of architectural degrees... and then explained what the term *'brEW~tle'* means colloquially to residents of Dublin's flats complexes! Anyway, they would have known better than anyone that all sorts of concrete finishes were possible, different coloured aggregates were available, etc, etc. - check out the concrete lamp~posts in areas like Stephen's Green for example. At least no~one had the bright idea of 'Cladding' the flats, in the style of London's Grenfell Tower! And then there's always _paint!_ But of course nothing looks shabbier than exterior paintwork that isn't given a fresh coat every 5 years or so... As such, I wouldn't have had great hopes for seeing an outside paint job for the scheme being properly kept up, seeing as my hometown, Cork, the country's second city, wasn't even able to maintain her road - markings at this time; zebra crossings, yellow - box junctions, even the revenue earning double~yellow lines were considered a luxury at this time, the corporation down there facing dissolution and the city being run by bureaucrats parachuted in from Dublin, if they couldn't balance the books. As somebody mentioned - the early 80's? There wasn't a lot of scratch going about!
Wow ! What a brilliant short film. I absolutely love watching these. I am still living in the area but a bit away from Ballymun. Still today there is stigma from those who also live in similar areas and THEY don't like you to move up in the world and hate that you have it better and are doing well. They dont allow you to move on from the drab that once was and think your allllll the damn same as each other. That mentality is soo ridiculous and old.
Great piece of work, this isa part of our history! I was about the same age as Eddie was back then however I was one of the lucky ones I got an apprenticeship but still had to leave the country after my apprenticeship was completed. I love the balcony scene, the awkward silence between a father and a son yet all was understood in the few words words spoken. well done!
Dáithí Ó Nuallaín count yourself lucky.I lived there at one time and let me tell you it was a complete shithole in EVERY way.thank fuck I got out of there.
Stephanie Mckeever get of your high horse I've lived in Ballymun since day one.No it is NOT s shithole. Its as fantastic area in Dublin steeped in history. I'm so glad a yoke like you doesn't live here.
why this film never listed all the songs is doing my head in. Great to see Ballymun in the early 80s, they really captured a mood of the place.... But, what are the great songs in the short film??
I worked at the Towers, bout 1979 til 81'. I ran up and down the Oliver Plunket Tower trainig for Donimic Saviour Boxing. Trained at Larry Delaneys gym underneath the 4 stories. Something to do, kep yourslf doing something. The despair was palpatable, fcku;n povertty. No jobs, no future, no hope. I doubt much has truly changed.
I lived in Santry back in the 70's-80's, I remember Larry Delaney & his gym, think he worked as a bouncer as well? One of my least fondest memories was getting mugged by Pascal Kelly & Collie Sheridan in Shangan. We were only kids but even back then, they were right bogies.
hahaha emmams5 He was a bouncer at the Towers upstairs and the Penthouse. I remember Kelly and Sheridan well. I might have gone to school with Collie. Did you know the Keoghs or the Duffys. Lived near the old car factory in Santry
Tony O'Donnell I can't place the them, we lived on the other side of Santry, I knew the Moriarty's from Shanowen Rd. A lot of people I grew up with moved out in their early 20's to places like Swords & Donabate & rarely saw them again. The old Chrysler & then Talbot garage is still there, I think the Guards use it as a lock-up. My parents still live in Santry, it's weird not seeing the Shangan four stories at the top of the road.
The sheer futility of it all catharted very well in 23 minutes where full some length efforts failed miserably. Thank goodness for space invaders and The Clash (yeah I know it isn't them on the soundtrack but the influence is undeniably there for all to hear).
Brill,great memories,loved the lads outside the 'scratch',and the Space Invaders, the drive home up the Square and out Dorset St/Drumcondra [pity they didnt turn left at Eccles St,just to see the Tenements ],a truly great piece of our recent history,well done...xx
Hi Joe, would you by any chance have or know where I could get a copy of a video you made with an Anco gorup doing a communitions Course based in ther NIHE (DCU today) and St Pappans Hall in Ballymun in around 1984/85? The guy who was running the course was called Brain (Barney) and Denis Kennedy although on the course was his right hand man, Olie McGlinchy came in later. I would love to get a copy but cannot find anyone who has one. Part of the video is shown at the very start of a video shown on RTE (I think) called the 4th Act. Thanks Joe for all the great videos.
This is really good. It's mad the way the vast majority of them flats and towers are gone now and only a few are left. Which tower was Eddie's flat in?
great documentary and great soundtrack,the 80's were a contrast,great for music.punk.oi,ska and for others the rest,great for getting out of prehistoric under the church thumb Ireland,it's when the change started to morph-pity so many of us had to head away because of unemployment,lack of services and because the change was so slow.well done to who made it,reminds me of LAST BUS HOME,a great Irish movie about growing up and subculture made on a shoestring
whitey1196 where did they get that main geezer from (depressing)and the Scottish girl pretending to be a block (lemon) tell your da I said hello can you tell me what age he was please 17 18 ? 💐
In the 80s in ballymun people didnt have much but everyone helped each other the community spirit was great now we have no flats ore shopping centre nice new house though and sadly no real community any more
Im not british, but old passage if time movies from the seventies in britain, five me such Gratification, that's only comperable with such Times i feel content beeing alone, feeling IT could be a passend live deels senseble but thinking of IT is utterly nonsense
I'm now 63 and would give another 10 yrs of my life away to go back to this great times. Well done to all involved in the making of this film.
I live in Santry and to me Ballymun was like New York or Berlin ,the music was amazing Pink Floyd, BobMarley, Yazoo , Franky goes to Hollywood, UB 40,The Doors,And ABBA blasted out of all the flats day and night,I had a vision of God and The New Jerusalem right on my door...I love the place the people the shops, Christmas and the snow of 1981 it was my wonderland...I never felt depressed I rode wild horses,I dated wonderfully girls who were so full of life, I dance to Triller the weekend it was released in Cecilia house,O, to have lived as I did back then, what I would give right now to just go back for a day, bless you Ballymun you were beyond my wildest dreams...
If only I could go back. Loved the old Ballymun
The drugs ruined bullmun and all the good area’s which are still ruined to this day))
God bless you all guys and girls from ballymun and so on ))
I really good music and great people who would help ya if you were stuck for a bita sugar or tea whatever you needed they all stuck together))
The shops in the Luton vans caravan shops so many good memories I really enjoyed watching this))
Thanks for sharing it with us all)))
I was born in coultry Rd number 18 4th floor. Then 121 sillouge avenue the field see the library. Now still see how much I got from there adventure, creativity and just a great community. Till I was 15 moves to Rathmines. Still went back to school till I ws 18. Now still remember so much . I hated Rathmines
I remember everything about old Ballymun! I'd give anything to go back .. so much lost ! I have such fond memories and I had a brilliant childhood ! Lived in Balcurris Road flats, just beside the Shopping Centre!
Remember that old film ‘Into the west’? I remember watching that when I was staying in Tallaght. Such a great film ☺️
Great soundtrack and very thought provoking subject. It's shocking to think that people lived in those sort conditions with bleak prospects and little hope. It was same for many I knew, grew up with and went to school with around the same time this video was made. If anyone thinks that the current recession is worse than the '80's then they'd do well to look long and hard at this and see just how tough those times really were. The only thing better then was the sense of community and the music.
Ballymun years ago and I remember the caravans used as shops and a Luton van shop!!
Ballymun was a great place around that time because there wasn’t as much drugs as their is today!!
And all the good people had respect for each other and they were all very good folk back then!!!!!
I remember them old escort vans and them shops there and the good old times alright))))
I lived in Eammon Ceant Tower on the 11th floor, with two kids, smelly lifts were always broken, no joke dragging a pram, groceries and two kids up that amount of stairs!
I hated the place
I was born in Balcuris but moved out when I was 6,I'd rather say I was from Ballymun than where I grew up.
Great footage of the flats ect. They could look really depressing on a wet winters day. I did,nt think anywhere could look worse - untill I went overseas and saw some real bad - ass dumps. When I came back, Ballymun looked so sweet !
Yeah, but it's true what you said first, "They could look really depressing on a wet Winter's day..." I mean, a country like *Ireland,* fer kerrissakes, where it's drizzling and overcast all the time (when it's not out - and - out _'lashing,'_ ) - did they _have_ to make 'em _grey??_ No doubt the architects would have said they were simply trying to remain true to the materials and the 'brutalist aesthetic' (because they're _obviously_ not gonna say "well, we had the Corpo and the NBA constantly on our backs saying 'Yes, but can it be done _cheaper?!'_ ") Somebody should have pulled them aside and explained to them what the term 'brutal' means to somebody that _doesn't_ have a whole slew of architectural degrees... and then explained what the term *'brEW~tle'* means colloquially to residents of Dublin's flats complexes! Anyway, they would have known better than anyone that all sorts of concrete finishes were possible, different coloured aggregates were available, etc, etc. - check out the concrete lamp~posts in areas like Stephen's Green for example. At least no~one had the bright idea of 'Cladding' the flats, in the style of London's Grenfell Tower! And then there's always _paint!_ But of course nothing looks shabbier than exterior paintwork that isn't given a fresh coat every 5 years or so... As such, I wouldn't have had great hopes for seeing an outside paint job for the scheme being properly kept up, seeing as my hometown, Cork, the country's second city, wasn't even able to maintain her road - markings at this time; zebra crossings, yellow - box junctions, even the revenue earning double~yellow lines were considered a luxury at this time, the corporation down there facing dissolution and the city being run by bureaucrats parachuted in from Dublin, if they couldn't balance the books. As somebody mentioned - the early 80's? There wasn't a lot of scratch going about!
thanks for the upload great footage of Dublin in the eighties
Wow ! What a brilliant short film. I absolutely love watching these. I am still living in the area but a bit away from Ballymun. Still today there is stigma from those who also live in similar areas and THEY don't like you to move up in the world and hate that you have it better and are doing well. They dont allow you to move on from the drab that once was and think your allllll the damn same as each other. That mentality is soo ridiculous and old.
Best footage and sound track I've seen....great stuff, and thanks for sharing!!! loved the kitchen scene...
Great piece of work, this isa part of our history! I was about the same age as Eddie was back then however I was one of the lucky ones I got an apprenticeship but still had to leave the country after my apprenticeship was completed. I love the balcony scene, the awkward silence between a father and a son yet all was understood in the few words words spoken. well done!
I've lived on the south side for 46yrs years and never saw the flats in ballymun, I wish I had, what a pity📸📸☘🍻👍
Dáithí Ó Nuallaín count yourself lucky.I lived there at one time and let me tell you it was a complete shithole in EVERY way.thank fuck I got out of there.
Stephanie Mckeever get of your high horse I've lived in Ballymun since day one.No it is NOT s shithole. Its as fantastic area in Dublin steeped in history. I'm so glad a yoke like you doesn't live here.
@@theresacorcoran3889 It would have been a shithole to many people and not for many too.
why this film never listed all the songs is doing my head in. Great to see Ballymun in the early 80s, they really captured a mood of the place.... But, what are the great songs in the short film??
I worked at the Towers, bout 1979 til 81'. I ran up and down the Oliver Plunket Tower trainig for Donimic Saviour Boxing. Trained at Larry Delaneys gym underneath the 4 stories. Something to do, kep yourslf doing something. The despair was palpatable, fcku;n povertty. No jobs, no future, no hope. I doubt much has truly changed.
I lived in Santry back in the 70's-80's, I remember Larry Delaney & his gym, think he worked as a bouncer as well? One of my least fondest memories was getting mugged by Pascal Kelly & Collie Sheridan in Shangan. We were only kids but even back then, they were right bogies.
hahaha emmams5 He was a bouncer at the Towers upstairs and the Penthouse. I remember Kelly and Sheridan well. I might have gone to school with Collie. Did you know the Keoghs or the Duffys. Lived near the old car factory in Santry
Tony O'Donnell I can't place the them, we lived on the other side of Santry, I knew the Moriarty's from Shanowen Rd. A lot of people I grew up with moved out in their early 20's to places like Swords & Donabate & rarely saw them again. The old Chrysler & then Talbot garage is still there, I think the Guards use it as a lock-up. My parents still live in Santry, it's weird not seeing the Shangan four stories at the top of the road.
Wow! Some great period footage, great cars, great hair, great soundtrack!! Love the roundabout bit at the end!!
The sheer futility of it all catharted very well in 23 minutes where full some length efforts failed miserably. Thank goodness for space invaders and The Clash (yeah I know it isn't them on the soundtrack but the influence is undeniably there for all to hear).
very good and great soundtrack
Brill,great memories,loved the lads outside the 'scratch',and the Space Invaders, the drive home up the Square and out Dorset St/Drumcondra [pity they didnt turn left at Eccles St,just to see the Tenements ],a truly great piece of our recent history,well done...xx
Good film
great video, great sound track
Remember getting the bus into Gardiner St for the dole, some weeks wouldn't even have the bus fare and have to borrow it till I got home.
Cheers.
Hi Joe, would you by any chance have or know where I could get a copy of a video you made with an Anco gorup doing a communitions Course based in ther NIHE (DCU today) and St Pappans Hall in Ballymun in around 1984/85? The guy who was running the course was called Brain (Barney) and Denis Kennedy although on the course was his right hand man, Olie McGlinchy came in later. I would love to get a copy but cannot find anyone who has one. Part of the video is shown at the very start of a video shown on RTE (I think) called the 4th Act. Thanks Joe for all the great videos.
Hi, sorry I remember the video but do not have a copy, it was so long ago. Best wishes Joe Lee
This is really good. It's mad the way the vast majority of them flats and towers are gone now and only a few are left. Which tower was Eddie's flat in?
LibertyBhoy I think that was Sean McDermott tower opposite the shops , remember the monuments that was on the hill ?
Is the piece of music that starts 7.56 by Stano?Don't know it but it sounds like his style.
great documentary and great soundtrack,the 80's were a contrast,great for music.punk.oi,ska and for others the rest,great for getting out of prehistoric under the church thumb Ireland,it's when the change started to morph-pity so many of us had to head away because of unemployment,lack of services and because the change was so slow.well done to who made it,reminds me of LAST BUS HOME,a great Irish movie about growing up and subculture made on a shoestring
anybody tell who does the track at 6 mins in in this video
Thats my dad at the fence at 4:04 HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHA
whitey1196 So your da was in court that day hahahA gas, I wish I saw my dad at his age, well done, I was 11 then just moved to clondakin D22📸🍻👍
whitey1196 where did they get that main geezer from (depressing)and the Scottish girl pretending to be a block (lemon) tell your da I said hello can you tell me what age he was please 17 18 ? 💐
looks like wayne Mc Cullough ex boxer from Belfast
All hail Ballymun
Were they ever that rough
In the 80s in ballymun people didnt have much but everyone helped each other the community spirit was great now we have no flats ore shopping centre nice new house though and sadly no real community any more
No place in Ireland was as rough as ballymun in the 70s, 80s and up to the 90s . The poverty was palpable.
Im mexican and having people shouting at each other and nagging means they care
Pearse?
Gold
bring back eddie
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Im not british, but old passage if time movies from the seventies in britain, five me such Gratification, that's only comperable with such Times i feel content beeing alone, feeling IT could be a passend live deels senseble but thinking of IT is utterly nonsense
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