It is the same here in Canada. I am a senior single lady on a small fixed income. I pay 50 percent of my income for housing. I live in a bug infested 250 square foot basement in a private home. I am grateful to live here because the vacancy rate is less than one percent and I live in one of the cheapest apartments in my city. The prices goes up by 25 dollars per year as well. I do not like to think about my future, but I realise how lucky I am to have a roof over my head. We have long harsh winters with temperatures as low as minus 40 C for months at a time. I feel most sorry for the young people. You deserve better and I am so sorry this is happening to you.
@@lorgabluc I live in Guelph Ontario. We have some of the highest rents and house prices in Canada. I am considering moving to a different city as soon as I can.
@@dianethompson2458 That is what happens when people allow various governments to over regulate their society and market place. It normally create shortages in the marketplace. Rent control sounds great until you realize that it makes it unprofitable for landlords and developers and they then are not willing to invest in new property.
Fair play lads. Good work. I’m saying that the young people are being pushed out of all the Dublin postcodes. FFG have rolled out the red carpet for anyone with a few million that wants to double their money extracting rent from the average worker.
This is where I grew up. Terence's ma lived underneath us. My old block boarded up. "The Little Block" as it was known. 11 x steps on the first flight of stairs all the others had 9 steps, all the way to the top. 56 all together, then 9 steps to the front door. The patch of tarmac where they're standing was where we played rounders, and caught pigeons. Missus Clifford lived on the ground floor, corner flat and was the nicest woman you could meet. I know every inch of those flats still to this day, 30 years later. Up The Flats!!
The exact same thing is happening all over Ireland. UK went through his decades ago and it created a cycle of property crisis. Allow governments and local authorities complete control over planning and the property market was always going to be a problem. In the countryside in Ireland there are families who have land and the money to build them self a property yet are being blocked from doing so and that then forces those exact same families into the towns after existing property stock.
To fix this 1. State needs to do a complete review of ALL of the land that it owns though itself, county councils, semi-states, quangos, etc 2. Needs to look at each and every regulation cost it up and ask the CRITICAL question - is this regulation really required or is it simply adding to the cost of the house 3. Needs to launch a bond to get in 500m / 1,000m / whatever Put the land in for free (we the people own the land not the state we the people need the land in order to live in houses!!!) + reduce the costs of building house + raise the money to build the houses Longer Term 4. Roll out trade schools train up lots of electricians, brick layers, carpenters, etc - Ireland has an aging and declining trades work force that needs to be addressed Basically an Irish version of FDR's new deal for the US.
I loved the articulate logic given by you two lads. I totally agree with the feeling of being surrounded by family in the flats, whether related to you or not. I grew up in the inner city and the village reared the child. I had a relative live in flat beside plaza.
Fair play to you lads. Didn't agree with every single point but mostly agree. Our generation is suffering to line the pockets of a few. Our generation is getting older and still living at home.
Fair play to ye lads! I'm from a working class area in Limerick and can relate to this. Politicians, of all parties just don't care about areas like this.
I know an old man from oliver bond, had to move into homeless accomdation because a big group of young lads were harrasing him, pissing on him. Hes an innocent man from oliver bond, forced out of his home with nowhere to go. I know his story and more about elder abuse in the flats, thugs scaring everyone, dealers grooming kids and hijacking their lives. For all the great community parties and irish flags the people keep eachother down. Work isnt encouraged, and any able bodied young lad can be labourer and get 500euro a week take home or do an apprenticeship.
Ireland has been caught up in the Refugee crisis unfortunately, but not all of these people are genuine refugees, need to get a rebate from the European Union, for the size of Ireland taking into consideration that England are still temporary caretakers in the North, there are too many refugees
It would do nothing if they were to run because the culture of Ireland simply is not willing to take an interest in anything. There is no big secret in any of this government has regulated the current market into existence and yet people as a whole do not want to do anything about. There are Irish people right now cheering on rent controls, wage controls, transport controls and energy controls yet cry about the shortages when they happen.
It's the same here in England but we've also got thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants here. They don't get sent home but get put in five star hotels. They get benefits and free NHS care that they've never even paid in for all the while British people are really suffering. If I put this comment on a page full of Brits I would be shouted down for being racist. We are not allowed a voice here and it's absolutely disgusting.
I'm in exactly the same position as the lad in yellow. I fought to get myself university educated with the hopes of getting above the poverty line. The only way I was able to do so and not have to worry about money was to leave Ireland. It's tough to watch my family struggle in what should be one of the top 5 richest nations in the world.
Same boat for me. Born and raised in brooklyn, college educated with a good job and I have to live at home with my parents. Either that or pay an arm and a leg to have roommates. No thanks. Local governments have to do better
@@UNKN0WN_1 I'm saving money as well and am not blaming anyone for my predicament. I'm 26 and plan to own my own property before I turn 30. That being said, I think that the affordable housing crisis is one that can be mitigated for if local governments took the problem seriously. I choose to live in Brooklyn because it's exciting for me. I can take transit and walk and bike around, there are activities to do at any time of the day, hundreds of concerts and every type of food imaginable. If I just wanted my own house, there are a thousand places I could move to to achieve that. But living in a cookie cutter suburban cul de sac isn't what I want for my life in my 20s.
@@Southpaw128 Yes I agree, I have family and I am in my 40ties, Own a mortgage in Blackrock Dublin, and I am from Poland. Granted I am here 20 years now, but for first 10 I have worked and had good times and did not make much money, but built my credibility, skill set, knowledge, made my brand and took my time, won and lost, played hard, and took my destiny in my own hands. Today I have no immediate family to help me raise my children, Creche cost 1200 Euro per month alone, I have no relief from the state, I have built everything from scratch, worked my way to be in a position to have that opportunities in life that i enjoy. Oddly enough, you do not have to truly struggle, just have to be patient, and work your way to something better, not even for yourself, but for those that one day may rely on you for their opportunity. If you stay the course, you will not get lost in the sea. True you may fail, but here, you just have to get up and try again, until you succeed. because you just need to succeed only once. Remember you stop being a victim of the "big bad world" the moment you are 18... Carpe Diem Because Housing issue is not responsible for the people and pathology that made people depend entirely, for lifetime on the Government subsidy and paycheck. I do recognize the need to that facility, and I am paying taxes because we are as fast as the weakest and poorest of us all in Ireland, but lifetime, generational pathological dependency of handouts feels like abuse of the system.
@@UNKN0WN_1 I agree and life is all about ups and downs. At the end of the day you only have yourself to truly rely on. For most of us (that don't come from rich parents), we have to create the life we want to live and that will almost definitely come with hardship and pain before we get to a place of comfort. I also want to clarify my point about local government. It may work differently in the US vs Ireland or the rest of Europe but I think that local government in the US gets in the way of building new housing way too often. So I don't think giving out housing as a form of welfare is the answer but removing zoning regulations and bureaucratic processes to allow the market to create more housing will increase supply and provide for more affordable housing in cities. When people are working fulltime or even two jobs and can't afford rent, there's a problem. In San Francisco, most people have to drive 2 hours to get to work. It's extremely sad that we've let it get this bad.
I have been living for 10 years in D8 (and renting half of the time) and I would never ever consider it is an disadvantage area, I feel proud for having lived at the Liberties.... I have an impression some people will always struggle even if they live in the most posh area in Dublin. This being said there are plenty of families that need some economic help
I agree with what these lads are saying, however, ya know, heroin was a contributing factor, which i beleive was intentionally used to create this situation.
Heroin only came to places like this . Its a life of no hope mental stress whole familys out of work . Empty bellys its no fluke heroin hit all poor areas first and hardest .
I doubt it was introduced solely to create these social problems. It also was a contributing factor to the homeless crisis, but it wasn't the only thing. Plenty of homeless now are working people who just cant afford to pay rents despite being on a good wage. I've even met a Dr who's homeless.
Gentrification is happening all around the south inner city. Community’s are being lost. The middle class are moving in. The worst part of it is they are looking down on people who lived in the area all their lives. ( looking at you thinking what are you doing living around here)
Politicians have surrendered National sovereignty to International banks. Politicians represent everything and everyone else not the Irish. What's with the Dub Reggae music?
These two seem to be the genuine article and if that's the case it is a disgrace to their country and its politicians. I left that city in '54 to escape a dysfunctional family at 14.5 y.o.a.Two shillings a week he was paying as rent.Nuff said.As a result I will never see the hole again.
Some good points made on this but dalkey and Blackrock were gentrified too.both had large numbers of council and laborours homes and cottages.both had working class areas similar to sallynoggin monkstown ballybrack
None of this really has anything to do with gentrification. Ireland as a whole has an over regulated housing, banking and jobs market. Which in turn has created centralization of everything. People cannot expect a government to regulate shortages and then somehow expect the exact same government solve the problem that they created.
My mother was born in Dalkey as was her siblings, Ardeevin Cottage. Yes the place was certainly gentrified over the last couple of decades, I saw it happen when visiting. One of my Uncles still live on Ard Brugh hill.... but you can't buy property for love nor money.
@@bighands69 Stoneybatter and Smithfield are perfect examples of areas where the locals who've lived there for forty and fifty years don't recognise the culture that's sprang up around them, and couldn't afford to partake in it even if they wanted to. The upmarket cafes selling overpriced lattes have replaced the greasy spoons, there are restaurants where the fresh fish shop and the second hand bookstores used to be. The new apartment blocks that sit on the sites of the markets where they used to buy their fruit and vegetables are filled with people who wouldn't have *walked* through the area thirty years ago. People are pushed out physically or pushed out culturally, and it has everything to do with gentrification.
Well said lads and some very interesting points made. Typical Dublin tho, Terrence wearing the ankle socks with bottoms and his mate wearing shorts with sports socks. Fair play to Terrence giving up the drink and drugs. I'll defo be giving the podcast a gander.
Listen from 1.25 to 2.10, the guy explains what is going on in his little corner of Dublin. And, if truth is told, it is happening in every big and small town in every country these days. It is a manipulation that people need to wise up to.
Ok, so after watching this I am totally conflicted because I have been trying to move from South Africa to Ireland for years now...it doesn't seem like its a good idea after seeing this video.
As someone who lives in Dublin I can assure you that knocking the council flats in the city center and moving them out to the suburbs is very much in your interest as a foreigner. Each one essentially has its own gang that loiters around the city center causing trouble. The cost of living is high here but these guys are complaining about mostly silly stuff and trying to act like victims of the state when they grew up in free accommodation on some of the most expensive land in Europe.
Ireland is much more than it's inner cities. I live in Donegal, near a town large enough to find work, paying affordable rent and surrounded by some of the most stunning countryside in the world.
@@beneadie3202 Council housing is not free; you're showing your ignorance there. It's means tested and rented at a percentage of the tenants income. Also these families have been living in Dublin's inner city for long loooooong before this was some of the most expensive land in Europe. The history of Dublin's tenement dwellers, that these families are descended from, dates back to the 1600's at least. The last of the Dublin tenements were levelled in the 1970's. These flats were built in the early 1960's. They were occupied these last six decades by tenement people and their descendants. There's nothing silly in the grievance involved when you're thrown out of your home in the city your people have lived in for centuries so that greedy developers can build apartments and hotels to stuff full of people who've got fcukall historical connection to this city, or in many cases to this country for that matter.
@@rachelmoran2205 ya I'm aware. It's essentially free... If you don't own it it's not yours. Able bodied people living off the state is a really shameful thing and it's sad you're defending them like they're noble people. If what you're saying is that people in council flats should be allowed to preserve their way of life because they've been doing it for generations I really pity you. Being unable to provide for yourself and raising kids to live the same is truly shameful. Breaking up these communities, although my primary concern is for the normal people paying their way through life, would be the best thing for them given the amount of crime taking place amongst the youth of the inner city.
@@beneadie3202 Again, council housing is not free. It's means tested and rented at a percentage of the tenants income. Are you seriously telling me you're so ignorant of communities in Dublin's inner city that you assume they all live on social welfare? Why do you assume that?
They had cheap housing at the expense of the tax payer for decades and they've always been complaining one way or another. Always blaming others for their imagined problems. They expect the state to give them massively subsidised housing right beside their mum.
Very good video, people should realize that a ‘two bedroom ‘ flat is a three roomed dwelling- these flats are all very small- not suitable for 8 people- the whole situation is disastrous, emigration is rising, so sad
I think as time passed between 1930-1970, the flats only got smaller. If you look at Herbert simms flats built in thr 30s and 40s, they'll have proper houses, unlike the flats you'd see in the 50s 60s and 70s flats such as ballymun or inchicore
Why should you expect to carry on living in the same place and to receive from governament a house or apartment just because your parents for whatever reason got something from the state? State help them so that you do not have to live of the public money..
I remember living in Dolphin House Flats in the '70s and there was a family of 21 kids. They were living in luxury for they had 3 bedrooms! A wonderful family who I hung around with. We were an average family, my mother only had 12 of us, the last one was born in Crumlin.
@@stopbutcheringenglish1951 Whether it's 7 couples with 3 kids or 1 couple with 21 kids they still get children's allowance. Not forgetting some of the eldest were hard workers tax payers before others were born.
I have colleagues in Manchester looking for housing in Blackpool. Its like a famine, where people hear rumours of food 15 miles away and walk there to get fed.
The place looks like a concrete jungle-Brutalist architecture. Where's the green" What they describe as continuity is actually stagnant conditions that make it hard for people to actually move on.
Regarding the people having to emigrate, my grandparents from Roscommon, Westmeath, and Galway emigrated and eventually made a good life in Chicago. But that was a century ago, and the opportunities are far less now in the US. It's interesting that many of their grandchildren are worse off than they were. It's a crisis spanning many countries: Investors buying up everything and turning everyone into virtual slaves of unfortunate circumstances... and all with the help of the politicians, businesses, banks, and a media that decides what not to report. I'm doing okay (for now), but so many aren't. The rich, they do get richer... but few crumbs fall from the table for the rest of us. I dare say there might not be a peaceful, democratic solution.
When i attended St .Marys C.BS.school opposite these flats in 1960 to 1965 that area was just an open field .We lived up in Phibsborough and were lucky enough to have a house and garden.
Interesting comments these young guys make, but if accommodation is in such short supply, why are these Dublin Corporation flats being left idle and unoccupied? I don't get it!!
Rent is high. Why should a tiny percentage of locals get subsidised housing that causes a cycle of poverty and drug addiction, while other people from the US, UK, Canada and dozens of other countries come here without the benefit of free housing and family to sponge off of have to pay their way in society? Wah, wah, wah. Why should you be given anything? Work for it. Should you be having a family when you won't knuckle down? Should your parents have spawned when they could not afford to raise children? Should you spawn when you can't even support yourself? Perhaps, people who have children who can't even take care of themselves should stop being paid to do so off the back of other hard working people's taxes; off of working people who are struggling to stay afloat and save themselves. It's the flats, generous welfare and welfare fraud that created this cycle in the first place. The flats are an encouragement and a subsidy to laziness, antisocial behavior and drug dealing quite frankly. They are a curse on the real working class. You have a good paying job and can't afford to move out? BS. You don't want to get a roommate if needed and be like a man living in your own and be independent. There are plenty of Irish and Europeans like this. It's called being a mammy's boy. You want to eat out, buy phones, take trips and wear designer drip so you work and stay at home while mammy does the wash and cooks. This is not limited to people from the flats. You can find plenty in their 20'S and 30's even from D4, D6 Dun L etc. like this Peter pans and Peter pams. Rocking the IG and TikTok hard but mammy still folds your underwear. It's a European disgrace and starting to see it creep into North America. Infantile. Pathetic. Soft spoiled navel-gazing, pityparty free loaders. Shouldn't be surprised, they've learned over generations that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. I hear the Wahambulance coming.
Very ignorant comment, I live in flats my whole life never dealed drugs or done drugs, I’ve fought in martial arts my whole life and I teach martial arts, I’ve been to college thankfully with t he help of foundations that give assistance to payments, and where am I? Still in flats. You say move in with room mates as if that’s what we should be grateful for? Why move out of an overcrowded flat to move into another small flat and pay half a wage to just keep shelter and most likely be sharing it with a stranger, also if we do move out of the flats the rent increases dramatically it’s actually smarter to live with our mas, before recession the houses were cheaper and rent wasn’t so spiked, the housing crisis has spiked because 70% of our government are landlords and have sold our public land to companies and businesses to buy off and build their own properties, and landlords buy the properties and sell of to tenants for a duisgustingly high price that is unfair and yes people will pay because they have no choice they have to work 2 jobs to pay it or else be homeless like where most others have been thrown, not all of us are dealt easy hands and with how our current government are treating us the country is gonna be even worse, do not speak of anybody from flats if you do not have the experience, politicians need to be restricted from becoming landlords especially since there the ones making rules on property tax and incomes, and cost of living, their gonna drive the country to a revolution.
lol....But it's OK to house hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and undocumented immigrants on the taxpayer's dime.....the vast majority of those who lived in the flats in inner city Dublin worked for a living.
Yup the flats. Nothing but student accommodation springing up around that area, once the luas line went down it was game over for Domnick street and Dorset Street flats.
I come from Ballymun and I also have been around all the flats in the North Inner City it’s your only your mentality that keeps you back got people live and have always lived in the flats in the N I C remember this
Interesting. It's the same here in New Zealand. Our population size is similar to Ireland, but we have X4 the number of homeless than them and rent is sky high.
I kinda wish people like this were in government, you know, people who actually represent the average person, not people like Leo who are so privilaged they've never been on the dole
Most people have never been on the dole because most people work. There are more working people in Ireland than people on welfare. What makes someone privilege is when they come from money/opportunity and that’s not regular working people. On the flip side privilege is also earned by hard work so it’s not always so black and white.
@@kjh4496 Leo is a "white" guy born into a rich doctor family in a democratic country, he really got everything. The guy went to a fancy boarding school that would've cost 100k+ for his secondary education. I'm sorry, but if you think that represent the average person, you're just plain wrong.
Unless Irish people decide to vote in politicians that favor the free market and small government nothing will change. Ireland has always been a highly regulated market place hence why prices were always so high. This generation of Irish people think they have it bad where their parents and grandparents would have face property prices that were 6 times their salaries with interest rates of about 20% to 40%.
I'm British of Irish descent. The frustrating thing about Irish independence is that it still maintains an almost identical political and economic system to the UK, which has all of the same problems. Policy geared around rentiers over people.
The entitlement is the video is surprising to me. “Make it worth it for us to move”. Loads of people work full time and struggle to rent, and will never buy. I think, in reality, these social apartments are built on very desirable city centre areas. Like 200 social apartments could be replaced with double that in private and social apartments. I would similarly advise that some private residential property in the city centre should be reclaimed to build more housing too.
@@BrokenOptimus7 they are doing it everywhere, its the truth ,why do you think drugs only get sold in the inner city ? Because if you do you are sadly mistaken .Take your blinkers off and look around you it's EVERYWHERE.....
Disgusting comment . These are the people who were left at the mercy of crime . Education is no cure for ignorance . Thats why we get FF FG again people like that
Bizarre point on student accommodation..... Easy for folk brought up close to 3rd level institutions I suppose. Moral of the story, free or close to free flats for anyone brought up in one so they can live close to their gran. FFS
The current government is more interested in feathering their investor buddies than proving homes for people. They would rather give tax breaks to vulture funds that control the market and raise rents than build social housing. In return, they get cushy lobbyist jobs after their political career and other incentives. They say they don't want to repeat the mistakes of the past but are unwilling to look at European social models that are working extremely well. Countries like Austria have it sorted. There you can rent a two-bed apartment for €600 per month and make it your home for life. The apartments are beautiful and the blocks have their own swimming pools with all amenities in the area. There are clearly solutions to this but as long this greedy and corrupt collation is in power things will continue to get worse.
" we used to have to change our address to get a job, now we have to change our job..............I've told people about this happening in early 80s for residents of some north side corporation estates and they don't believe me ( the address) .......: To the lads a question if you see this....was/is still the case in recent times in Dublin......shame another brain drain era.......
And student accommodation (that look like hotels ) put up Right beside these flats, same on gardiner street and summerhill, church st(Right beside Greek st flats)and on and on . Its a smack in the face for the locals . Beyond a joke
Gentrification my hole. Dublin in general yeah, not in the flats. These are council flats, people aren’t coming in and buying them privately pushing out old residents. You can even see loads of them are boarded up. Council needs to do them up and get new tenants in.
Cant stay there, this place is being prepared for boat migrants, not you. You're only required to pay their rent in your taxes. And within next decade also their wages, as they'll become your new gardai.
14years on a housing list Calvin was Ina class below me I can't get housed wats d difference between me and Calvin education no area no judged on standerd of perants not d individual looking all about who ur family are r related to
Your dead right boys fair play to ye the rent is nearly put like that is half to do with keeping people in disadvantaged areas there keeping them stuck there not been able to get jobs the minute they find out ur past when ur trying to turn things around and are stopped by the justice system moving on after doing time that’s ur punishment the time there not a second one by been forced on the dole
It is the same here in Canada. I am a senior single lady on a small fixed income. I pay 50 percent of my income for housing. I live in a bug infested 250 square foot basement in a private home. I am grateful to live here because the vacancy rate is less than one percent and I live in one of the cheapest apartments in my city. The prices goes up by 25 dollars per year as well. I do not like to think about my future, but I realise how lucky I am to have a roof over my head. We have long harsh winters with temperatures as low as minus 40 C for months at a time. I feel most sorry for the young people. You deserve better and I am so sorry this is happening to you.
Where in Canada to you live ? I am in Montreal
@@lorgabluc I live in Guelph Ontario. We have some of the highest rents and house prices in Canada. I am considering moving to a different city as soon as I can.
@@dianethompson2458
That is what happens when people allow various governments to over regulate their society and market place. It normally create shortages in the marketplace. Rent control sounds great until you realize that it makes it unprofitable for landlords and developers and they then are not willing to invest in new property.
@@bighands69 You are absolutely right about that.
It’s the same in Niagara now too.
The guy in the yellow top is very well-spoken. Speaks very intelligently. Hopefully he'll use his intelligence to improve this country.
Fair play lads. Good work. I’m saying that the young people are being pushed out of all the Dublin postcodes. FFG have rolled out the red carpet for anyone with a few million that wants to double their money extracting rent from the average worker.
@@Endlesssummer1
Why are you obsessed with buying a house? As long as you can afford to rent a house, be happy with that.
@@Haerinx87no thanks 😊
@@Babybunnyxox
Yeah, you probably say because you save all your money, as you make your boyfriend pay for everything
Why can't you save all your money
This is where I grew up. Terence's ma lived underneath us. My old block boarded up. "The Little Block" as it was known. 11 x steps on the first flight of stairs
all the others had 9 steps, all the way to the top. 56 all together, then 9 steps to the front door.
The patch of tarmac where they're standing was where we played rounders, and caught pigeons. Missus Clifford lived on the ground floor, corner flat and was the nicest woman you could meet.
I know every inch of those flats still to this day, 30 years later. Up The Flats!!
Stairs was like going into a castle or something . Tower stairs i liked dorset st .
The exact same thing is happening all over Ireland. UK went through his decades ago and it created a cycle of property crisis.
Allow governments and local authorities complete control over planning and the property market was always going to be a problem.
In the countryside in Ireland there are families who have land and the money to build them self a property yet are being blocked from doing so and that then forces those exact same families into the towns after existing property stock.
@@bighands69 I don't know how you can say that. Governments all over the world look out for their people and always treat them like family.
Sad to see of will be demolished in the next few weeks❤
To fix this
1. State needs to do a complete review of ALL of the land that it owns though itself, county councils, semi-states, quangos, etc
2. Needs to look at each and every regulation cost it up and ask the CRITICAL question - is this regulation really required or is it simply adding to the cost of the house
3. Needs to launch a bond to get in 500m / 1,000m / whatever
Put the land in for free (we the people own the land not the state we the people need the land in order to live in houses!!!) + reduce the costs of building house + raise the money to build the houses
Longer Term
4. Roll out trade schools train up lots of electricians, brick layers, carpenters, etc - Ireland has an aging and declining trades work force that needs to be addressed
Basically an Irish version of FDR's new deal for the US.
Mass immigration has hollowed out and destroyed the North inner city. The government had let that area down badly. God love the locals.
I'm emigrating to poland with my wife in October, and I happened to have a fella across the street from me doing the same.
Ireland is so f'd atm
3 questions
1.
Is your wife polish ?
2.
Do you speak polish
3.
Gave they accepted you as an outsider ?
go back to poland
Noo PROBLEMS for SOUTH county DUBLIN wealthy people RULE IRELAND...
I loved the articulate logic given by you two lads. I totally agree with the feeling of being surrounded by family in the flats, whether related to you or not. I grew up in the inner city and the village reared the child. I had a relative live in flat beside plaza.
how much you pay per month?
Fair play to you lads. Didn't agree with every single point but mostly agree.
Our generation is suffering to line the pockets of a few. Our generation is getting older and still living at home.
The lads spoke truths
Sadly your gen is brainwashed to embrace all the things causing it
Everything those two lads said is correct.
Our generation are soft and don't know how the world works one is 26 their talking like 16 year old
Fair play to ye lads! I'm from a working class area in Limerick and can relate to this. Politicians, of all parties just don't care about areas like this.
Who do you say we vote for then?
@@hisheeelijah1482 the National party
@@grlfcgombeenhunter2897 exactly. There getting my vote
@@gitzersmitzer4516 even doh they fell out with Phil.
I still think there our best bet bud
🙏🏻🇮🇪🙏🏻
@@grlfcgombeenhunter2897 I agree they are the only ones that care
I know an old man from oliver bond, had to move into homeless accomdation because a big group of young lads were harrasing him, pissing on him. Hes an innocent man from oliver bond, forced out of his home with nowhere to go. I know his story and more about elder abuse in the flats, thugs scaring everyone, dealers grooming kids and hijacking their lives. For all the great community parties and irish flags the people keep eachother down. Work isnt encouraged, and any able bodied young lad can be labourer and get 500euro a week take home or do an apprenticeship.
This is great! More of this, please!
"you had to learn to fight"...well yeah, and that's why gentrification never robbed my mam and beat her up outside the flats.
"you had to learn to fight"..."great community"... Wonder since when TheJournal started to promote violence?
Ireland has been caught up in the Refugee crisis unfortunately, but not all of these people are genuine refugees, need to get a rebate from the European Union, for the size of Ireland taking into consideration that England are still temporary caretakers in the North, there are too many refugees
Terrence your da be real proud of how you turned out ,great to see .hope it works out for you.
Lived in flats in England.... Just the same doors open, trust and people shared.
You guys should ran for local council at least, and from there you would get more support.
It would do nothing if they were to run because the culture of Ireland simply is not willing to take an interest in anything.
There is no big secret in any of this government has regulated the current market into existence and yet people as a whole do not want to do anything about. There are Irish people right now cheering on rent controls, wage controls, transport controls and energy controls yet cry about the shortages when they happen.
Maybe contact senator lynn ruane?
It's the same here in England but we've also got thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants here. They don't get sent home but get put in five star hotels. They get benefits and free NHS care that they've never even paid in for all the while British people are really suffering. If I put this comment on a page full of Brits I would be shouted down for being racist. We are not allowed a voice here and it's absolutely disgusting.
England also has way more ghettos than Ireland
But there definitely used to be some really bad ghettos in Ireland, mostly Dublin
Sorry mate replied to the wrong comment
@the_padzer3456 COOLOCK
BERTIE and CHARLIE gold medallist in Mafioso voted by dubliners.
Should be a list for only people that grew up in the area.
I'm in exactly the same position as the lad in yellow. I fought to get myself university educated with the hopes of getting above the poverty line. The only way I was able to do so and not have to worry about money was to leave Ireland. It's tough to watch my family struggle in what should be one of the top 5 richest nations in the world.
Same boat for me. Born and raised in brooklyn, college educated with a good job and I have to live at home with my parents. Either that or pay an arm and a leg to have roommates. No thanks. Local governments have to do better
@@Southpaw128 I worked hard, save money, got mortgage, having house, and creating opportunities for my self and my family..
@@UNKN0WN_1 I'm saving money as well and am not blaming anyone for my predicament. I'm 26 and plan to own my own property before I turn 30. That being said, I think that the affordable housing crisis is one that can be mitigated for if local governments took the problem seriously. I choose to live in Brooklyn because it's exciting for me. I can take transit and walk and bike around, there are activities to do at any time of the day, hundreds of concerts and every type of food imaginable. If I just wanted my own house, there are a thousand places I could move to to achieve that. But living in a cookie cutter suburban cul de sac isn't what I want for my life in my 20s.
@@Southpaw128 Yes I agree, I have family and I am in my 40ties, Own a mortgage in Blackrock Dublin, and I am from Poland. Granted I am here 20 years now, but for first 10 I have worked and had good times and did not make much money, but built my credibility, skill set, knowledge, made my brand and took my time, won and lost, played hard, and took my destiny in my own hands.
Today I have no immediate family to help me raise my children, Creche cost 1200 Euro per month alone, I have no relief from the state, I have built everything from scratch, worked my way to be in a position to have that opportunities in life that i enjoy.
Oddly enough, you do not have to truly struggle, just have to be patient, and work your way to something better, not even for yourself, but for those that one day may rely on you for their opportunity. If you stay the course, you will not get lost in the sea. True you may fail, but here, you just have to get up and try again, until you succeed. because you just need to succeed only once.
Remember you stop being a victim of the "big bad world" the moment you are 18... Carpe Diem
Because Housing issue is not responsible for the people and pathology that made people depend entirely, for lifetime on the Government subsidy and paycheck.
I do recognize the need to that facility, and I am paying taxes because we are as fast as the weakest and poorest of us all in Ireland, but lifetime, generational pathological dependency of handouts feels like abuse of the system.
@@UNKN0WN_1 I agree and life is all about ups and downs. At the end of the day you only have yourself to truly rely on. For most of us (that don't come from rich parents), we have to create the life we want to live and that will almost definitely come with hardship and pain before we get to a place of comfort. I also want to clarify my point about local government. It may work differently in the US vs Ireland or the rest of Europe but I think that local government in the US gets in the way of building new housing way too often. So I don't think giving out housing as a form of welfare is the answer but removing zoning regulations and bureaucratic processes to allow the market to create more housing will increase supply and provide for more affordable housing in cities.
When people are working fulltime or even two jobs and can't afford rent, there's a problem. In San Francisco, most people have to drive 2 hours to get to work. It's extremely sad that we've let it get this bad.
Nobody can afford to buy where they grew up
I have been living for 10 years in D8 (and renting half of the time) and I would never ever consider it is an disadvantage area, I feel proud for having lived at the Liberties.... I have an impression some people will always struggle even if they live in the most posh area in Dublin. This being said there are plenty of families that need some economic help
Dublin 8 isn't a disadvantaged area.
Great lads. I'm definitely going to listen to their podcasts.
The residents love the place so much they treat it like a kip.
Romanticism
Brilliant pod cast !!
You spoke extremely well lads, particularly Cal. Fair play lads. You're both giving great accounts of yourself👍🏻
Excellent Comments!!! Heard the greatest things about The Flats!
I agree with what these lads are saying, however, ya know, heroin was a contributing factor, which i beleive was intentionally used to create this situation.
Heroin only came to places like this . Its a life of no hope mental stress whole familys out of work . Empty bellys its no fluke heroin hit all poor areas first and hardest .
I doubt it was introduced solely to create these social problems. It also was a contributing factor to the homeless crisis, but it wasn't the only thing. Plenty of homeless now are working people who just cant afford to pay rents despite being on a good wage. I've even met a Dr who's homeless.
Gentrification is happening all around the south inner city. Community’s are being lost. The middle class are moving in. The worst part of it is they are looking down on people who lived in the area all their lives. ( looking at you thinking what are you doing living around here)
Totally agree with you. The liberties are full of yuppies now.
@@karlbyrne6021 👍
Well spoken dublin is no longer belonged to the dubliners
Yup. And you could say the same about everywhere else in Ireland too. Neoliberalism.
@@cigh7445 yup every major city almost same case nowadays.
Ireland doesn't either
Politicians have surrendered National sovereignty to International banks. Politicians represent everything and everyone else not the Irish. What's with the Dub Reggae music?
These two seem to be the genuine article and if that's the case it is a disgrace to their country and its politicians.
I left that city in '54 to escape a dysfunctional family at 14.5 y.o.a.Two shillings a week he was paying as rent.Nuff said.As a result I will never see the hole again.
So well spoken
Some good points made on this but dalkey and Blackrock were gentrified too.both had large numbers of council and laborours homes and cottages.both had working class areas similar to sallynoggin monkstown ballybrack
None of this really has anything to do with gentrification. Ireland as a whole has an over regulated housing, banking and jobs market. Which in turn has created centralization of everything.
People cannot expect a government to regulate shortages and then somehow expect the exact same government solve the problem that they created.
My mother was born in Dalkey as was her siblings, Ardeevin Cottage.
Yes the place was certainly gentrified over the last couple of decades, I saw it happen when visiting.
One of my Uncles still live on Ard Brugh hill.... but you can't buy property for love nor money.
@@bighands69 Stoneybatter and Smithfield are perfect examples of areas where the locals who've lived there for forty and fifty years don't recognise the culture that's sprang up around them, and couldn't afford to partake in it even if they wanted to. The upmarket cafes selling overpriced lattes have replaced the greasy spoons, there are restaurants where the fresh fish shop and the second hand bookstores used to be. The new apartment blocks that sit on the sites of the markets where they used to buy their fruit and vegetables are filled with people who wouldn't have *walked* through the area thirty years ago. People are pushed out physically or pushed out culturally, and it has everything to do with gentrification.
For sure not with love but with money you can certainly buy property in Dalkey. That's why it's ruined now and forever.
Dublin is so cruel these days and shitting on smart lads like these and thereby shitting on its future. Sad.
They are importing the new future
Well done lads, 100 percent true. Spoke and came across very well 😊
Build a community centre. Form a committee(repossession of one or two of those empty flats) constitute an agreement 🤝
Well said lads and some very interesting points made. Typical Dublin tho, Terrence wearing the ankle socks with bottoms and his mate wearing shorts with sports socks. Fair play to Terrence giving up the drink and drugs. I'll defo be giving the podcast a gander.
Listen from 1.25 to 2.10, the guy explains what is going on in his little corner of Dublin. And, if truth is told, it is happening in every big and small town in every country these days. It is a manipulation that people need to wise up to.
Ok, so after watching this I am totally conflicted because I have been trying to move from South Africa to Ireland for years now...it doesn't seem like its a good idea after seeing this video.
As someone who lives in Dublin I can assure you that knocking the council flats in the city center and moving them out to the suburbs is very much in your interest as a foreigner. Each one essentially has its own gang that loiters around the city center causing trouble. The cost of living is high here but these guys are complaining about mostly silly stuff and trying to act like victims of the state when they grew up in free accommodation on some of the most expensive land in Europe.
Ireland is much more than it's inner cities. I live in Donegal, near a town large enough to find work, paying affordable rent and surrounded by some of the most stunning countryside in the world.
@@beneadie3202 Council housing is not free; you're showing your ignorance there. It's means tested and rented at a percentage of the tenants income. Also these families have been living in Dublin's inner city for long loooooong before this was some of the most expensive land in Europe. The history of Dublin's tenement dwellers, that these families are descended from, dates back to the 1600's at least. The last of the Dublin tenements were levelled in the 1970's. These flats were built in the early 1960's. They were occupied these last six decades by tenement people and their descendants. There's nothing silly in the grievance involved when you're thrown out of your home in the city your people have lived in for centuries so that greedy developers can build apartments and hotels to stuff full of people who've got fcukall historical connection to this city, or in many cases to this country for that matter.
@@rachelmoran2205 ya I'm aware. It's essentially free... If you don't own it it's not yours. Able bodied people living off the state is a really shameful thing and it's sad you're defending them like they're noble people. If what you're saying is that people in council flats should be allowed to preserve their way of life because they've been doing it for generations I really pity you. Being unable to provide for yourself and raising kids to live the same is truly shameful. Breaking up these communities, although my primary concern is for the normal people paying their way through life, would be the best thing for them given the amount of crime taking place amongst the youth of the inner city.
@@beneadie3202 Again, council housing is not free. It's means tested and rented at a percentage of the tenants income. Are you seriously telling me you're so ignorant of communities in Dublin's inner city that you assume they all live on social welfare? Why do you assume that?
They had cheap housing at the expense of the tax payer for decades and they've always been complaining one way or another. Always blaming others for their imagined problems. They expect the state to give them massively subsidised housing right beside their mum.
But the state gives free housing and welfare to migrants.
@John Smith Real asylum seekers too.
@John Smith To Ireland yeah, because they have to go through plenty of safe countries before getting to Ireland.
Very good video, people should realize that a ‘two bedroom ‘ flat is a three roomed dwelling- these flats are all very small- not suitable for 8 people- the whole situation is disastrous, emigration is rising, so sad
I think as time passed between 1930-1970, the flats only got smaller. If you look at Herbert simms flats built in thr 30s and 40s, they'll have proper houses, unlike the flats you'd see in the 50s 60s and 70s flats such as ballymun or inchicore
The old tennies like this in Liverpool are now student accomodation .
This makes me sad. I hate the way Dublin is going.
Old Ireland 🇮🇪 is gone and never to be seen again unfortunately.
my auntie had 13kids in a 2 bed flat in bridgefud street flats
How does it work in the flats? Do you pay rent to the government?
Yes
Emigrate down the country brethren, learn to surf, houses chape, beautiful environment
The houses are not cheaper down the country. They are only cheap when compared to city wages.
No thanks stay where you are
Hold on.. are you saying to me that tenants of social housing programme have an issue when their occupancy is over?
That 380 a month rent goes up?
Why should you expect to carry on living in the same place and to receive from governament a house or apartment just because your parents for whatever reason got something from the state?
State help them so that you do not have to live of the public money..
Very articulate. I hope they make out well and find their place. As they say: home is where the heart is.
I remember living in Dolphin House Flats in the '70s and there was a family of 21 kids. They were living in luxury for they had 3 bedrooms! A wonderful family who I hung around with. We were an average family, my mother only had 12 of us, the last one was born in Crumlin.
21 kids Jesus.
Is that responsible to make us pay for their kids?
@@stopbutcheringenglish1951
Whether it's 7 couples with 3 kids or 1 couple with 21 kids they still get children's allowance. Not forgetting some of the eldest were hard workers tax payers before others were born.
Vermin
@@stopbutcheringenglish1951 sure you can pay for the "new" Irish now, dose that make you feel better?
I have colleagues in Manchester looking for housing in Blackpool. Its like a famine, where people hear rumours of food 15 miles away and walk there to get fed.
well done lads..cudnt hav said it better meself...its a disgrace the way this govt. treats the very people who built this nation.
The place looks like a concrete jungle-Brutalist architecture.
Where's the green"
What they describe as continuity is actually stagnant conditions that make it hard for people to actually move on.
Accept it. Ireland will never change.
The brilliant politicians obviously don't want to fix the "housing crisis"
Regarding the people having to emigrate, my grandparents from Roscommon, Westmeath, and Galway emigrated and eventually made a good life in Chicago. But that was a century ago, and the opportunities are far less now in the US. It's interesting that many of their grandchildren are worse off than they were. It's a crisis spanning many countries: Investors buying up everything and turning everyone into virtual slaves of unfortunate circumstances... and all with the help of the politicians, businesses, banks, and a media that decides what not to report. I'm doing okay (for now), but so many aren't. The rich, they do get richer... but few crumbs fall from the table for the rest of us. I dare say there might not be a peaceful, democratic solution.
It does seem like greedy capitalism is nearing critical mass.
Wouldn't be the first time humans are pushing human nature to it's limits.
Fairplay to the lads I'm from ballymun the flats are the best memory's ever
Same everywhere now nobody can buy a home near their family
Exactly the same here in Liverpool.
Well done boys. You are both very clever and perspective.
When i attended St .Marys C.BS.school opposite these flats in 1960 to 1965 that area was just an open field .We lived up in Phibsborough and were lucky enough to have a house and garden.
It's the same in the US. Once again the landlords are jacking up the rents so high people need roommates to survive.
Interesting comments these young guys make, but if accommodation is in such short supply, why are these Dublin Corporation flats being left idle and unoccupied? I don't get it!!
With time they've become damaged, infested, unsafe and obselete. But yes a lot of time has been wasted during which they could have replaced them
This video is the best for my Irish accent training
I'd love to know what other countries would offer you a good job and house no problem. Please let me know , preferably with a sunnier climate.
What you mean another, Ireland does not offer that.
Google it so
Rent is high. Why should a tiny percentage of locals get subsidised housing that causes a cycle of poverty and drug addiction, while other people from the US, UK, Canada and dozens of other countries come here without the benefit of free housing and family to sponge off of have to pay their way in society? Wah, wah, wah.
Why should you be given anything? Work for it. Should you be having a family when you won't knuckle down? Should your parents have spawned when they could not afford to raise children? Should you spawn when you can't even support yourself? Perhaps, people who have children who can't even take care of themselves should stop being paid to do so off the back of other hard working people's taxes; off of working people who are struggling to stay afloat and save themselves.
It's the flats, generous welfare and welfare fraud that created this cycle in the first place. The flats are an encouragement and a subsidy to laziness, antisocial behavior and drug dealing quite frankly. They are a curse on the real working class.
You have a good paying job and can't afford to move out? BS. You don't want to get a roommate if needed and be like a man living in your own and be independent. There are plenty of Irish and Europeans like this. It's called being a mammy's boy. You want to eat out, buy phones, take trips and wear designer drip so you work and stay at home while mammy does the wash and cooks.
This is not limited to people from the flats. You can find plenty in their 20'S and 30's even from D4, D6 Dun L etc. like this Peter pans and Peter pams. Rocking the IG and TikTok hard but mammy still folds your underwear. It's a European disgrace and starting to see it creep into North America.
Infantile. Pathetic. Soft spoiled navel-gazing, pityparty free loaders. Shouldn't be surprised, they've learned over generations that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. I hear the Wahambulance coming.
Very ignorant comment, I live in flats my whole life never dealed drugs or done drugs, I’ve fought in martial arts my whole life and I teach martial arts, I’ve been to college thankfully with t he help of foundations that give assistance to payments, and where am I? Still in flats. You say move in with room mates as if that’s what we should be grateful for? Why move out of an overcrowded flat to move into another small flat and pay half a wage to just keep shelter and most likely be sharing it with a stranger, also if we do move out of the flats the rent increases dramatically it’s actually smarter to live with our mas, before recession the houses were cheaper and rent wasn’t so spiked, the housing crisis has spiked because 70% of our government are landlords and have sold our public land to companies and businesses to buy off and build their own properties, and landlords buy the properties and sell of to tenants for a duisgustingly high price that is unfair and yes people will pay because they have no choice they have to work 2 jobs to pay it or else be homeless like where most others have been thrown, not all of us are dealt easy hands and with how our current government are treating us the country is gonna be even worse, do not speak of anybody from flats if you do not have the experience, politicians need to be restricted from becoming landlords especially since there the ones making rules on property tax and incomes, and cost of living, their gonna drive the country to a revolution.
lol....But it's OK to house hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and undocumented immigrants on the taxpayer's dime.....the vast majority of those who lived in the flats in inner city Dublin worked for a living.
You lads wouldn't have a problem anywhere you go.Try opening up a pub in Portugal and the rest of us will catch up in a blink of an eye! 🤠
Ring a ring a rosey as the light declines.... Fair play to these lads
Yup the flats. Nothing but student accommodation springing up around that area, once the luas line went down it was game over for Domnick street and Dorset Street flats.
I come from Ballymun and I also have been around all the flats in the North Inner City it’s your only your mentality that keeps you back got people live and have always lived in the flats in the N I C remember this
Is there a decline in the quantity of mentality during recessions?
Nothing stays the same forever, unfortunately.
Interesting. It's the same here in New Zealand. Our population size is similar to Ireland, but we have X4 the number of homeless than them and rent is sky high.
Fifty years ago I lived in Vicar Street and couldn’t use my own address. I had to use my grannies which was only about 100m away.
I kinda wish people like this were in government, you know, people who actually represent the average person, not people like Leo who are so privilaged they've never been on the dole
Most people have never been on the dole because most people work. There are more working people in Ireland than people on welfare. What makes someone privilege is when they come from money/opportunity and that’s not regular working people. On the flip side privilege is also earned by hard work so it’s not always so black and white.
@@kjh4496
Leo is a "white" guy born into a rich doctor family in a democratic country, he really got everything. The guy went to a fancy boarding school that would've cost 100k+ for his secondary education. I'm sorry, but if you think that represent the average person, you're just plain wrong.
Unless Irish people decide to vote in politicians that favor the free market and small government nothing will change.
Ireland has always been a highly regulated market place hence why prices were always so high. This generation of Irish people think they have it bad where their parents and grandparents would have face property prices that were 6 times their salaries with interest rates of about 20% to 40%.
He is against you as a people it isn't because of privelage lol it's a hatred
@@tallwaters9708white 😂😂😂😂
I'm British of Irish descent. The frustrating thing about Irish independence is that it still maintains an almost identical political and economic system to the UK, which has all of the same problems. Policy geared around rentiers over people.
The entitlement is the video is surprising to me. “Make it worth it for us to move”. Loads of people work full time and struggle to rent, and will never buy. I think, in reality, these social apartments are built on very desirable city centre areas. Like 200 social apartments could be replaced with double that in private and social apartments. I would similarly advise that some private residential property in the city centre should be reclaimed to build more housing too.
Did they forgot to mention the residents of the area are flat out selling heroin in the flat complex?
They are selling drugs everywhere and the people selling drugs dont even live in the flats
@@sharonosullivan8503 "but they do it everywhere" is the dumbest explanation ever...
@@BrokenOptimus7 they are doing it everywhere, its the truth ,why do you think drugs only get sold in the inner city ? Because if you do you are sadly mistaken .Take your blinkers off and look around you it's EVERYWHERE.....
Disgusting comment . These are the people who were left at the mercy of crime . Education is no cure for ignorance . Thats why we get FF FG again people like that
@@BrokenOptimus7 fitting for the dumbest statement ever
100% Agree.
Bizarre point on student accommodation..... Easy for folk brought up close to 3rd level institutions I suppose. Moral of the story, free or close to free flats for anyone brought up in one so they can live close to their gran. FFS
None are free or close to free. They're on a rate proportionate to income
@@sorchaoreilly2633 lol.... It's heavily subsidised
Well said Terry 💪
Inner city Dublin is the focal point of the new plantation, it's tragic. We're losing our country to mass immigration in the name of big capital.
Crazy in 2024 this problem has managed to go exponentially worse
The current government is more interested in feathering their investor buddies than proving homes for people. They would rather give tax breaks to vulture funds that control the market and raise rents than build social housing. In return, they get cushy lobbyist jobs after their political career and other incentives.
They say they don't want to repeat the mistakes of the past but are unwilling to look at European social models that are working extremely well. Countries like Austria have it sorted. There you can rent a two-bed apartment for €600 per month and make it your home for life. The apartments are beautiful and the blocks have their own swimming pools with all amenities in the area.
There are clearly solutions to this but as long this greedy and corrupt collation is in power things will continue to get worse.
" we used to have to change our address to get a job, now we have to change our job..............I've told people about this happening in early 80s for residents of some north side corporation estates and they don't believe me ( the address) .......: To the lads a question if you see this....was/is still the case in recent times in Dublin......shame another brain drain era.......
And student accommodation (that look like hotels ) put up Right beside these flats, same on gardiner street and summerhill, church st(Right beside Greek st flats)and on and on . Its a smack in the face for the locals .
Beyond a joke
Check out the Kalargi plan, might make more sense 🇮🇪
Very interesting video
Gentrification my hole. Dublin in general yeah, not in the flats. These are council flats, people aren’t coming in and buying them privately pushing out old residents. You can even see loads of them are boarded up. Council needs to do them up and get new tenants in.
I’m not from Ireland but why don’t people move up north where it’s cheaper and just an a drive away from family?
Cant stay there, this place is being prepared for boat migrants, not you. You're only required to pay their rent in your taxes. And within next decade also their wages, as they'll become your new gardai.
I have to say tho, people that live in flats treat you with much more respect than people living in the likes of Blackrock.
14years on a housing list Calvin was Ina class below me I can't get housed wats d difference between me and Calvin education no area no judged on standerd of perants not d individual looking all about who ur family are r related to
Your dead right boys fair play to ye the rent is nearly put like that is half to do with keeping people in disadvantaged areas there keeping them stuck there not been able to get jobs the minute they find out ur past when ur trying to turn things around and are stopped by the justice system moving on after doing time that’s ur punishment the time there not a second one by been forced on the dole
Chicago's equivalent to The Projects.
O devany was given away and not 1 of us will get 1 .
The reason homeless facilities are in disadvantaged areas is because that's where the homeless are and where the homeless are from.
Actually I've seen people have to travel far to homeless accommodation miles from their area. Homelessness is in all areas
Best thing to ever happen to Dublin is to get rid of the slanders.
Well done lads good luck with ‘ya talkin bollix’
4:32: Nailed it. Always tought the same looking at these posh kids kipping the night in town.