Heroin Addicts in Dublin City, Ireland 1973
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- Drug users talk about their lifestyle and the choices they make on a daily basis.
In a Dublin City centre park, three young people speak frankly to reporter Larry Masterson about drug taking, and why they do it.
One describes it as an escape, while another who has been using for the last six years feels it helps to release his inhibitions,
"That way I feel a lot freer in society."
Although they are aware of the risks they are taking with their lives, it does not deter them,
"I have overdosed on several occasions but it doesn’t beat the effect that I get, you know, I still love that fix."
What is it like being addicted to morphine? A young woman describes being without drugs,
"If you haven’t got them it’s a bad scene. You’re sick. You just have to get it."
On the subject of overdosing, and contrary to what people may think, they are clear that people who use drugs do not intentionally set out to harm themselves,
None of those interviewed believe they are a nuisance to society and they do not interfere with the general public. This group just want to be left alone to do their own thing. Their outlook on the future is bleak.
"You know you’re going to die from them anyway, whether you overdose early or late, it’s immaterial."
This episode of ‘Tangents’ was broadcast on 26 October 1973. The reporter is Larry Masterson.
A miscellany of events, entertainment, opinions and personalities, ‘Tangents’ was first aired on Monday 25 September 1972 and ran until 1974. Tangents was presented by Cathal O’Shannon and Doireann Ní Bhriain on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday and by John O’Donoghue each Tuesday. - Розваги
The dude on the right is probably the most realistic and honest. A shame. 24 years old and quite bright.
Even the junkies had class back then
😂👌
Touch of class goes a long way
I know right 🤣
It’s the methadone and tablets that the state gave addicts to counteract heroin. It turned them into violent zombies with slurred constipated voices.
Middle class drug back then. Once it hit the flats it was gameover
Fascinating. As others had said, it is amazing how articulate they are. I remember watching a clip on Reeling in the Years in Ballymun and the housewives talked like aristocrats. Amazing how language has evolved in Dublin.
in a bad way unfortunately. Dubs are very funny tho
Nice crack heads from Ireland
I feel ‘devolved’ would be more apt. It’s really a shame.
Sayin
Add a high register
when you listen to Irish people
who have n😅thing to lose
Its likelisten😅ng to Beowulf
Are they still alive?
Wow, even junkies in the 70's are more eloquent than most Dublin residents now.
That’s a very broad statement to make, it’s if you know most Dublin people.
@@shane6115 I'm from Dublin 🙂
@@countsmyth ok 👍 fair enough then. We are aloud to slag our own 😀
@@countsmyth sorry to hear that lol
The guy on the far right seemed well spoken, even if softly so. I noticed during the interview that he had a bout of the infamous opiate itch.
I wonder if any of them ever got clean. Does Ireland offer a substitute programme, such as methadone and Subutex? Here in the UK, things have improved somewhat. It used to take about three months from the point of referral to be put on a daily script. Now it can be done in as little as 48 hours, with most being accommodated within five working days.
Mad to put a perspective on time. We are the same distance from this instance as they were, at that time, from the Civil War / Independence.
Dunno why that sprung to mind....
What independence?
The War of Independence
Love the simplicity of the filming. You can even hear the gentle wind in the background
God Bless those fallen, I hope that they are some point in their lives found healing and PEACE. Thank you CR. for post.🙏🇮🇪🙏
Wow he hit the nail on the head, “it releases my inhibitions” I hope he’s done well or at least he’s speaking has done so thing for someone.
Drugs were a middle class hippy thing back in Dublin in the 60s and 70s. Once the working class got a taste for drugs though, it was all over…
Bless them, poor people. But for the grace of God go any of us.
I lived in Dublin for almost 11years and know many youngsters died of drug overdoses Fatima Mansions , Dolphins Barn and Michaels Estate devastated by drugs and death. These places were so bad they had to be demolished. Fatima Mansions was frightening many overdoses and deaths.
Genuinely didn’t realise that heroine was available in Dublin as early as the 1970s, my understanding was that the first big time heroine dealer could be traced back to the early 1980s, he was from around the O’Connell Street area and was “credited” with bringing the heroine epidemic to the city.
Agree that the drug users being interviewed are extremely articulate and eloquent, even if they’ve limited insight regarding their drug use.
Yeah you're thinking of Larry Dunne,who was the first big importer of heroin.There was always a bit floating around before that though.People would bring it back from Holland or India/Pakistan in smaller amounts and those who were into it would always be able to find some.Some people knew sympathetic doctors that would prescribed other opiates when they couldn't find heroin.I don't think methadone was available in those days.
@@pauldoporto6811 Yes, just had a look into Larry Dunne online, he started selling heroine in the late 1970s. Another name that comes to mind is Anthony "Tony" Felloni. He was married to a sister of Mannix Flynn.
Tony Felloni started selling heroine a few years after Larry Dunne, in the 1980s.
it's creepy looking at this video seeing how small the scene was back then, now those importing drugs into the country are more powerful than the likes of larry dunne could even dream of
Prescribed heroine them days. Then Larry came along. ✌🏿☘️
Was filoni not responsible for bringjng heroin to Dublin?
I think we're just amazed at how well spoken and articulate these people are. Would love to know where they ended up
Dead
@@Lilly-hh9es😂😂
50 years after are anyone in this video still among us? I would be really surprised if so…
Absolutely, I’m from Dublin and live in British Columbia and the gentleman in the middle is living on the streets in the city where I live.
He’s in good health the last time I seen him and is well known around the city and is helped out by local business owners.
He’s a soft soul and always in good form.
@conorcrothank you he comes across as an old soul even 50 years agosbie9338
"Although I do fix regularly I haven't got a habit" 😂
Ah yeah I OD'd 3 or 4 times, but I think a person knows how much is enough
🤣🤣
Doesnt get more Irish than that......Im Irish.
Would love to know if any of these people are still alive now ? or what happened to them in life ? They seemed pretty together in fairness. Guess they'd be in their early Seventies now ...
The woman Dolores is my grandmother (more like my mother ) she passed away from cancer she married her soul mate had 4 kids 3 girls and 1 boy , I was her youngest daughters daughter, the first born grand child she was the most loving kind hearted human to ever walk the earth ..she raised me with my grandad two absolute old school gems and thought me everything I know sadly they both passed wen I was 8
@@harleymonroe_xx5307 she’s my great auntie, I have the same last name as her Mulhall
@@harleymonroe_xx5307And in you the Jem shines brightly regards to you and yours what a wonderful moment in time? She married her soul mate that's a blessing that good spring's from you.
@@harleymonroe_xx5307 How comes your grandma raised you. May I ask what happened to your parents? X
@@harleymonroe_xx5307 What year did she pass away?
Why are drug addicted people so well spoken in the 1970s
its europe 😆
You'll find archive interviews covering any issue are generally better spoken. Not sure why but compared to the contemporary equivalents who sound like a lobotomised Joe Duffy.
I get the feeling this is back before 1mg/ml Phy was the standard maintenance treatment and it was managed by a few GPs using ad hoc brown and green prescribing. The main drug of choice then would've been either hash, solvents or glue but it was also when Christy Brown started importing the heroin and the garda in charge of drug enforcement was regularly slagged off for looking for his bucket of morphine. Just shows how much public services new about it then. There was no formal detox protocol except in a few hospitals, usually privately, and places like Coolmine were only on the drawing board. At least it hadn't become such an epidemic just yet and there was more grey area medical treatment available instead of just criminalising it under the MDA 1973.
Even up until the 2000s, the standard detox protocol in Mountjoy was a 3 day Phy taper which was worse than useless.
@@aj2080xy6was it not Christy Dunne or Kinahan
They were educated under an older system....but we got smart and threw it out.
I am and I look clean like I don't take drugs
50 years ago already .. i wonder how their lives turned out
I'm the woman's grandchil
@@harleymonroe_xx5307 frfr?
How'd she get on @@harleymonroe_xx5307
Sad, hope they all pulled through and got off the smack.
These r the best spoken junkies ever
They spoke a lot of sense
how did no one think back then in 1973 about nipping the problem in the bud then ? now look at the streets of dublin today it's a billion times worse than back then
Many families tried very hard to get the pushers out of the flats. It turned out to be easier said than done though…
These people are not typical of the working class heroin addict that became the norm from the late seventies onwards. These people are obviously educated and articulate
@@johnbalance3989 who was supplying it at the time though ?
that's is not at all true, and classist.
@@patmurphy6843It is true. Heroine was not a big problem at the time and most of it was brought in from England.
not all of us addicts are stereotypical of what society brandished us
i didnt know there was heroin going around in dublin that long ago....
I think it was all smoked, inhaled but not injected . That method of injecting didn't arise until the 80s .
Nice people. More likely alot nicer than those 'running' the country.
Amen
Never seen this before , from Dublin myself Gardiner street Mountjoy square . Very good documentary . Living in the States now .
You're a clown!!
@@anneliamohara2842 what city?
And it's going through the DTs of alcoholic and benzoates addiction that can kill you...
Thanks 👍
I remember as a kid growing up, in the late 70/ 80,s , we were made to FEAR heroin addicts!, And if you saw one walking funny , like out of his face?, You litterly would be terrified! , The things is back in those days they had no methadone to fall back on, so those addicts would have been suffering terrible from withdrawal!, And Kids now days are litterly raised with addict parents or raised in a housing estate were drugs are all around them and they are soo used to it , some even start hanging out with the young lads who are selling it , who are usually in their late teens or early twenties. , I saw boys as young as 13 selling coke and heroin and crack and they were doing the drill like they was all grown up, I shook my head and walked away in disbelief!! 🤔😳🙊 It,s sad because you can bet they will be spending alot of their youth in and out of prison!🥺😟
It just shows you that alcohol is worse than heroin, an alcoholic would never be this articulate, the problem with heroin addicts that makes them get such a bad reputation is that they have to get the cash to get their drugs every day and that’s where the problem lies
But the drug itself doesn’t have a big effect on the brain cells or the personality in a bad way (not in comparison to alcohol anyway)
Nah... loads of alcoholics can hide it, and can be just as articulate as this lot. What about the heroin addicts that you see sprawled out down back alleys of O connell Street.. how articulate are they in your opinion?
Are you serious ? Have you ever had a proper conversation with someone after they have banged up
@Paul McGrath considering I’ve been a heroin addict for over 20 years now and a crack addict for about 15 years I think I have seen one or two, and as alcohol is a curse on my family (my mother doesn’t drink but it’s destroyed her life) my dad died from alcohol and 9 uncles died from alcohol abuse, and many alcoholics in my family (I’m from a very big family) , yeah someone who has shot up will drift off into a kind of living death, but they usually won’t beat up their wife and children because of it (unless it’s about money),
Both will destroy your soul amd your reputation and your life, the only good drugs in my opinion are the psychedelics ✌️
@Rory Kennedy thanks for your reply, I only just seen it, my reply is for you too, ✌️👍
@@theliamofella I never said anything about beating their kids up but just trying to have a conversation with someone on heroin is painful, lots of people can function on it to an extent but I knew plenty who would just fall asleep half way through a conversation or even while they were having a smoke , getting ash or hot rocks everywhere. I wouldn’t say I ever knew a drug addict I could rely on for anything , though many were nice people
God love them🙏
Seem like nice people
Wow back then drug addict were well spoken
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I hope they got it together they had a lot to give what a wasre
Probably would have been more informative to have interviewed them individually....wonder what eventually happened to them
Wonder are they still with us ....hope they were happy
Damn Beatniks!
Consider this: even heroin addicts in 1973 were more well-spoken and better dressed than the President of the United States of America in 2024.
Stephen's Green ?
I’ve been fixing every day for 6 years - but I don’t have a habit !!! 🤦
When drugs made people eloquent and content. Drugs must have dis-improved somewhat.
They sound more like actors than addicts. Unless the heroin was much milder then.
Very early video of People before profit
😃
The guy in the middle is hardly that chap Pauly T who has rhe UA-cam chanel interviewing people around Dublin. Its called kold turkey i think
is he over 70
@koldturkey is that u?
Pity they’re not like that now…
It sure is a self-absorbed activity. No service to anyone else in society in their minds. Very very fatalistic and sad.
My type of addict
The Interviewer is such a square - These three individuals would flourish in another Country, I hope they Emigrated and I hope they're still with us.
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I wonder if they arè still alive
The girl Delores otherwise known as dodo died a few years back rip
They seem like great people but their approach to drugs is fatalistic which is ultimately sad.
Guy on the right is a waffler. Met many like him.
These people speak quite eloquently.
They look like the hungerstrikers but more upmarket
“I’m 24 at the moment”
They must have had a more natural drug back then. Whatever synthetic crap they are using today they are unable to string two words together.
I wonder did they make it through their addiction.
The man on the right side sure "feels" a lot, but he does not "think" much. If he had to pay for his own hospital care, he might not take so many drugs.
I agree but we could say the same about alcohol or smoking even though it's legal over 18 ... Bizarre.
If punitive measures worked as a deterrent, the US would have less drug taking. It sounds like you're suggesting that they get left to die after an OD?
@decmurray1096 I suggest they become responsible for their own healthcare costs if they feel like taking drugs for fun.
@@christinesbetterknitting4533 And that's why there's 50,000 opioid deaths per year in the US. Compare that to Portugal where they have reduced opioid deaths by 50% through decriminalisation, education and rehabilitation.
One way exacerbates things, the other improves.
Which is preferable to you?
With what I pay in cigarette taxes I pay for every bit of health care I get and alot more
how does the interviewer know he won't get hit with a bus, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
VANESSA (Co Cork)
Can you elaborate ?
Lol.....more info please!
"Moving down the water
John is drifting out of sight,
Its only at the turning point
That you find out how you fight.
In the cold, feel the cold
All around
And the rush of crashing water
Surrounds me with its sound.
Striking out to reach you
I can't get through to the other side,
When you're racing in the rapids
There's only one way, that's to ride.
Taken down, taken down
By the undertow
I'm spiraled down the river bed,
My fire is burning low.
Catching hold of a rock that's firm,
I'm waiting for John to be carried past.
We hold together, hold together and shoot the rapids fast.
And when the waters slow down
The dark and the deep
Have no-one, no-one, no-one, no-one
No-one left to keep.
Hang on John! We're out of this at last.
Somethings changed, that's not your face.
It's mine - it's mine!"
@@YesOkayButWhy great lyrics 🎼🇬🇧
@@ItsRael108
I presume you're a G fan? Or just a coincidence? The lamb.
Back when the Dubs could speak English 😂😂
Got a euro.. I mean a pound for the bus.. Lovely to hear they aren't asking for busfare😂
So would I, they'd be in there 70s maybe 80s, most are gone 😅😅
All ya get these days is mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Dykenol then
Old Maureen or whatever her name was was a delight to dupe
damn, they're cool as fuck, wanna be like them when I grow up
Then you should start with reading the Naked Lunch first
@@user-sg5gl1gl3s that comment was just an edgy joke, actually I was just about to buy this book next week :)
@@looooove1410 I kinda sensed that, book is fascinating, also might wanna check out the Burroughs' own narration of some excerpts from it here on UA-cam. Best of wishes, amigo
Sort your life out if that's the case. These are actors, the same way Bill Gates acts as a scientist. Screw your head on right, and thank me later.
I presume these three are dead now
and?
Before aids
...I wonder how things ended for these knowitalls
Knowitalls??
Isn’t it dangerous ?.. not at all, if you’re aware of the danger. LOL
Funny I grew up ireland 80s 90s and never heard or notice drugs now Ireland is terrible
Literally the ucd member's bar club and the upper class started the shit
boomer truth regime :( :(
Smackheads are always so high-minded.
Wow he hit the nail on the head, “it releases my inhibitions” I hope he’s done well or at least he’s speaking has done so thing for someone.