$30 part caused all this damage Wanderlodge bus detroit diesel 8v92TA overheat engine damage

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  • @markphilpott8735
    @markphilpott8735 3 роки тому +58

    Hey Scott, here's some food for thought. I agree that you had a heat problem on the one side of the engine. However; you need to take into consideration that there is a crossove tube between the thermostat housings. This is to help balance the flow of coolant just in case a t-stat fails for any reason. One of the best ways to determine if the engine was over heated is to locate remove the "fuse plug" in the head if the center of the fuse plug is melted out, the engine was definitely run hot. The fuse plug(s) are located on the exhaust side of the head, above either #2 or #3 cylinder it appears as a 1/8" NPT plug with a straight slot. Remove and have a look. Regards, Tinshack

    • @PBandJTime
      @PBandJTime 3 роки тому +1

      I also think rebuilding the 1 bank was a good call, given the damage. However, I don't believe the cause of the damage was over-heat. I believe that it was water-diluted oil, from coolant leaking in, through the cracked sleeves. I could be wrong.

  • @simsjef
    @simsjef 3 роки тому +35

    Jerry’s voice commentary about Tyler and Scott’s personal repair interaction with the Wonderlodge was just hilarious. Scott and Tyler’s attention to doing repairs right is so commendable and should give customers peace of mind.

    • @scotty2307
      @scotty2307 3 роки тому

      Yes! Awesome comic relief. And yes, I agree with the half re build. It would make no sense to do the whole engine. If it were close to being worn out, and one side had damage, that would be a different story.

  • @allenpruehs8288
    @allenpruehs8288 3 роки тому +29

    When putting in fences with gates we always used a second vertical post to either side of the opening with a solid (another post or heavy section of pipe diagonally between them and heavy galvanized wire wrapped and tightened on the opposite diagonal. This was done to prevent or minimized sagging of the gates over time. Just a thought.
    Great video as usual. Keep up the good work!

    • @garymackey850
      @garymackey850 3 роки тому +1

      When I saw the gate post I thought the same thing...live and learn....//

  • @lenscap8925
    @lenscap8925 3 роки тому +28

    Sorry for the trespassers on the property. Might want to add a set of wheels to the swinging end of those gates, the posts aren't going to support the strain very long.

    • @flir67man84
      @flir67man84 3 роки тому +2

      2nd that idea. A pneumatic free tire (solid)work great

    • @maxpuppy96
      @maxpuppy96 3 роки тому +2

      How about a 12 gauge double barrel?

  • @The_Smith
    @The_Smith 3 роки тому +7

    As always, thanks for taking the time to post an update, always nice to know why something went wrong.

  • @kevinhamling1963
    @kevinhamling1963 3 роки тому +9

    Hey Scott,
    Kevin here from Australia.
    What a saving for the owner. He has to be happy with that.
    ✌ Peace

  • @joekahno
    @joekahno 3 роки тому +25

    The worst part of a lack of respect for property is that it bleeds over to the owners. A wise man once said, "Any society that will burn books will eventually burn authors".

  • @Boze0415
    @Boze0415 3 роки тому

    Scott, I really appreciate your honesty. If I had one of these classic beauties, you and Tyler would be the only team that I would trust with repairs and routine maintenance. Solid team and God bless you all. Stay safe.

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 2 роки тому

    Glad Harry’s sponsored you. I’ve been using their razors for years. Great products.

  • @waynesmith2338
    @waynesmith2338 3 роки тому +1

    Great job! Wow! $12-15k for one side. Incredible.

  • @artmcewen3165
    @artmcewen3165 3 роки тому +16

    So even with 87 gauges on a WL dash there’s not a temp gauge for each bank?

  • @randylanhart1387
    @randylanhart1387 3 роки тому

    You sir are an honest man !!! And we need more people just like you in this world. As for the naked man ... Fondling himself on your property I hope you exposed him too the people in your community. Everyone needs too know about him.

  • @jameswoods7276
    @jameswoods7276 3 роки тому +9

    That thermostat likely replaced at some point... As Eric O says "just because it's new doesn't mean it's good" Lucky the head didn't crack from being overheated. Rebuilding one bank is getting away kinda lucky.

  • @tomm2873
    @tomm2873 3 роки тому +3

    If you've got the Snap-on truck stopping at your house, you are either the luckiest or unluckiest guy on the planet.

  • @joerangel611
    @joerangel611 3 роки тому

    Scott
    Good evening
    Thank You so much for sharing this with Us
    It is great that You have so much knowledge about this engines that You are able to solve the problem on a reasonable budget
    Thank You

  • @AndyMarsh
    @AndyMarsh 3 роки тому +8

    Shame you had to put the gate up but quite understandable. Mighty Car Mods ended up moving to a secret location because folks wouldn't leave them alone to work.

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 3 роки тому

      Perhaps so but they easily gave up the location. Be a bit more circumscpect.

  • @peterhodgkins6985
    @peterhodgkins6985 2 роки тому

    Good call on the limited overhaul! No need to expend resources needlessly.

  • @franklinfrankerson
    @franklinfrankerson 3 роки тому +5

    Damn video end right before going into the snap on truck. Must have spent some serious money in there lol

  • @jimratliff2753
    @jimratliff2753 3 роки тому

    Scott, nice forensics on the right side of the engine and great clear video. As to the trespassers, way to go. Fence the zero's out. Go to Tractor Supply or Harbor Freight and get several small rubber wheels to affix to the two swing gates to keep them from dragging. That will make it easier for your wife to muscle them open/closed each time too. Take care BGM!

  • @jonathansparks7558
    @jonathansparks7558 3 роки тому

    The owner of the Wanderlodge has a most excellent sense of humor given the situation the engine is in. Good for him

  • @flick22601
    @flick22601 3 роки тому +4

    Did you win the lottery Scott? Snap-on when you absolutely, positively have to have the most expensive tools on the market. (chuckle, chuckle) (I'm gonna be blasted for saying that)

  • @andypsunshineisle5655
    @andypsunshineisle5655 3 роки тому

    Jerry has a voice that can convey humour without rancour, The section regarding Scott and Tylers dissasembly was really enjoyable. Only half a rebuild so find the right agency and im sure Jerry can recoup his costs with voice over work. Seriously that thermostat partial fail, is that the origonal or a replacement that failed . Not many miles compared with the usual engines needing attention on this channel.

  • @edwarddeyojr.793
    @edwarddeyojr.793 3 роки тому

    I would trust your judgement Scott,,,,good job,,,😍

  • @thehemiolds455
    @thehemiolds455 3 роки тому +11

    "SNAP ON" the candy store on wheels

    • @tims8589
      @tims8589 3 роки тому +1

      Strap on...oh wait wrong place

    • @thehemiolds455
      @thehemiolds455 3 роки тому +1

      Strap on🤔 you wish snap on don't sale those. Lover lane might have it in your size matric or standard.🤣😂

    • @tims8589
      @tims8589 3 роки тому

      @@thehemiolds455 metric or standard either or 👌

    • @thehemiolds455
      @thehemiolds455 3 роки тому +1

      😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @fourbanger
    @fourbanger 3 роки тому +1

    The DDEC averages the coolant temperature between the two sensors for the stock dash gauge. I installed temperature sensors, with readout on both heads, along with EGT and radiator coolant outlet temperature readout on my DDEC powered coach. Just a thought to help avoid this kind of event...

    • @fevengr9245
      @fevengr9245 3 роки тому

      Good information! I would think that if you wanted to get by with just one temperature gauge it should be designed to display the highest temperature measured among multiple sensors, not the average.

  • @MWestern-m4g
    @MWestern-m4g 3 роки тому

    Great find Scott and Tyler. You guys are "da best."

  • @MWestern-m4g
    @MWestern-m4g 3 роки тому

    I'll bet even money, Lance is gonna have "another moment" with that new gate/fence. Nice trailer!!!

  • @markvardy5479
    @markvardy5479 3 роки тому

    Hi if the coolants been hot on that bank replace the coolant pump plastic plate as it bows out then becomes inefficient as the impeller to plastic plate clearance is to big and always fit 170 thermostats with new seals, keep up the good work.

  • @okatexoffroad1813
    @okatexoffroad1813 3 роки тому

    You sir make it look so easy.

  • @stevebot
    @stevebot 3 роки тому +2

    You'd think that the Wanderlodge cockpit with all those gauges would have temp for each bank because they have independent thermostats.

  • @gullreefclub
    @gullreefclub 3 роки тому +2

    Personally If I were the owner of that Wanderlodge I would take a some of the money saved on not replacing the pistons and sleeves and go a head and consider replacing the all the rod bearing and also install a temperature sending unit and separate gauge for both engines banks as well as exhaust pyrometers on both engine banks. I am a firm believer that the more gauges the better (within reason of course)

  • @northstar2007
    @northstar2007 3 роки тому

    that is a beautiful Wanderlodge, love the colors

  • @brucemcgee2281
    @brucemcgee2281 3 роки тому +1

    So sorry that you have to keep trespassers out of your property.

  • @bigalon3wheels
    @bigalon3wheels 3 роки тому +4

    Maybe the sign ought to say Trespassers will be shot on sight. A tad more costly option is to have an audio system the broadcast the sounds of lions in the area and the sign should read Lion Sanctuary, enter at your own risk.

    • @timgreen4137
      @timgreen4137 3 роки тому

      Legally, signs like that indicate "intent".

  • @rsgpartsdivision
    @rsgpartsdivision 3 роки тому +1

    Good call doing just the damaged side. Being an RV, it will serve many, many years.

  • @woodsontr
    @woodsontr 3 роки тому

    Crazy about the trespassing. The gates are a good idea. 👍

  • @jakem.6359
    @jakem.6359 3 роки тому

    If it ain't broke....don't fix it. Nice to see you only doing what "needs" to be done. Most shops would have told him the entire motor needs to be done. PS...good fences(and gates) make good neighbors

  • @poogan1239
    @poogan1239 3 роки тому +12

    Could you install a water temp gauge for the other bank, that way you could catch something like this early?

    • @Staples1996
      @Staples1996 3 роки тому +1

      Hmm my 72 eagle has dual temp gauges, one on each side of the head

    • @russellhltn1396
      @russellhltn1396 3 роки тому +2

      Since the heads have separate t-stats, you'd think it should at least have sensors/overheat sensors for both sides.

    • @erikkovacs3097
      @erikkovacs3097 3 роки тому

      It looks like there is a sensor right next to the thermostat.

    • @thirdroompro
      @thirdroompro 3 роки тому

      Gauges are great but should also have a blinking light and or buzzer when there is an issue. Who watches every gauge constantly?

  • @danhard8440
    @danhard8440 3 роки тому +1

    anyone that owns one of these motors can make this a preventative maintenance check by checking the head temp on both sides to see if they are the same temp

  • @kenmatch8303
    @kenmatch8303 3 роки тому

    Rebuilding half or one hole, we had good luck with this on these 2 stroke Detroits! 👌🤓🇨🇦

  • @j1mbobtech
    @j1mbobtech 3 роки тому

    Hey Scott, you need "H" braces at either side of the gate posts or in a little while you will be carrying those gates to open or close them, and that gets OLD very quickly... I really enjoy your videos!

  • @andrewsmart2949
    @andrewsmart2949 3 роки тому

    had similar issues on a 6v92 where the airbox drain on that side was blocked

  • @heronimousbrapson863
    @heronimousbrapson863 3 роки тому +4

    Barbed wire will certainly be effective in keeping the NAKED trespassers out...

  • @frugalmurse
    @frugalmurse 3 роки тому +11

    Curious minds want to know what happened with the SnapOn guy, you showed his truck with no comments.

    • @ckm-mkc
      @ckm-mkc 3 роки тому +11

      Probably went inside then ran out screaming.... I'm all for spending money on good quality tools, but SnapOn is just insane.

    • @Mercmad
      @Mercmad 3 роки тому +13

      Snap -on, keeping mechanics poor since 1928.

    • @pirish236
      @pirish236 3 роки тому

      He couldn't compete with Harbor Freight Icon tools

    • @BusGreaseMonkey
      @BusGreaseMonkey  3 роки тому +18

      Be nice.

    • @dhyde9207
      @dhyde9207 3 роки тому +10

      @@joshjablonicky171 ... I bought my over priced garbage once. 50 years ago. Haven't had to spend a nickel on wrenches/sockets/screwdrivers since.

  • @peterrogers9228
    @peterrogers9228 3 роки тому +13

    Scott may not realise it but he will be expected to shave every day now!!

  • @boosteddiesel1834
    @boosteddiesel1834 3 роки тому

    Shame when this happens, thermostat attempts to destroy an engine. Same thing happened to my gas Land Rover freelander.
    To be honest most older vehicles temp gauges are there more for entertainment than actual accurate readings lol. Half of them will sit dead centre telling you everything is “just fine” whilst the cylinder head simultaneously boils to death and warps just as mine did. Was a fun weekend rebuilding it.
    I always recommend fitting an additional digital numeric read out sensor and gauge on anything that has the ability to destroy itself. Least then you get a warning.

  • @zmotorsports62
    @zmotorsports62 3 роки тому +1

    Nice catch on the t-stat. Personally if the other bank looked perfect I would also just repair what’s needed for a couple hundred thousand miles. It’d be different if you’re talking about 20-30k mile differences.
    Sad to hear that Jeep having trespassers but it looks like the Gates didn’t keep that expensive Snap-on truck out.😜
    Another great video Scott. Keep ‘me coming.
    Mike

  • @steventaylor5713
    @steventaylor5713 3 роки тому

    Retired Truck driver remembering that the 92 's hated heat even more then the 71's and as Scott said more then once the 6-71 are the best . Scott can you run Jerry's motor without a thermostat or will that screw things

  • @MWestern-m4g
    @MWestern-m4g 3 роки тому

    Just shows that you can't have enough sensors. I just put a temp gauge on my Skidsteer and found out I've had a leak for ever? Never ran into the over limit but I had no way to see how it was cooling. $18.00 and Ebay later, I do now! It was also a gallon low on fluid. Be nice to put a sensor on both sides of the engine.

  • @longliner205a4
    @longliner205a4 3 роки тому

    All of the bus owners have been missing out on all of the brand new and reman 2 stroke Detroit Diesel engines that the military has been liquidating. My friend bought up 4 8v92ta crate engines and a few Allison ht751 transmission for next to nothing. He was able to get the engines for like $2500 each and the transmissions for like $1000 each. There is just so little demand for them these days.

  • @kingjames8283
    @kingjames8283 3 роки тому

    Interesting neighbors you have there. I'd share the trespassers video on UA-cam and maybe he'll think twice next time using your property for his pleasures. Considering where your property sits, I'm actually surprised he drove so far away to do his business when there is a public park just right down the road. Have fun with that old Detroit iron which was one of my favorites until the DDEC-4 S60 I have now came along. Speaking of, after having a six pack installed a few weeks back, and them refusing to replace injector cups, now it has to return to shop, pull the head, and replace all six cups due to anti-freeze leaking down into either cyl-5 or cyl-6. My diesel shop is getting on my nerves but no one else in Indianapolis who know how to work on a Series 60.

  • @elrobo3568
    @elrobo3568 3 роки тому

    Gee, I work for a dealer. I would recommend rebuilding the entire engine and while we are in it rebuild the transmission and the air system and brakes. Oh yeah, I noticed the windshield was dirty and I would suggest replacing it.

  • @edavanzo296
    @edavanzo296 3 роки тому

    The "trespasser" wasn't the Snap on guy with his tool in his hand?

  • @cmdrdarwin3682
    @cmdrdarwin3682 3 роки тому

    Holy cow! Was that thermostat like that from when the engine was new? That’s a hellava surprise repair bill!

  • @MoraFermi
    @MoraFermi 3 роки тому +1

    I hope the owner springs up for the extra $20 for a couple of temperature readouts on both engine banks... The driver's position already looks like a 1950s bomber cabin, so one more dial won't make a difference.

  • @kenmatch8303
    @kenmatch8303 3 роки тому

    We had better luck with the Vernatherm thermostat. Beefier, longer lasting! Always good videos 👍😎

  • @ghall7763
    @ghall7763 3 роки тому +9

    This is the funniest “bleeping” video ever😆😆😆

  • @dopeynightlifetv6859
    @dopeynightlifetv6859 3 роки тому

    Nothing like a hard days worth of work
    🤙💪

  • @backyardpowdercoatings734
    @backyardpowdercoatings734 3 роки тому +1

    Would it be wise to run two temp gauges for each bank of cylinders

  • @francishagen8508
    @francishagen8508 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic shave 😎. Great video 😍👌

  • @jimthode
    @jimthode 3 роки тому +1

    Is that a crack a 9:59? Viewed full screen HD it looks like it could be. May want clean a little better and to look at it with a magnifier.

    • @paintnamer6403
      @paintnamer6403 3 роки тому

      The valves, hope it is from the wire brush.

  • @edsyphan3425
    @edsyphan3425 3 роки тому

    Were them trespassers trying to come up and steal all that patina off your bus?

  • @mikemartin1532
    @mikemartin1532 3 роки тому

    Wow all that head cleaning and u still can see the injector pattern

  • @saintm1680
    @saintm1680 3 роки тому

    Was he loosing coolant? I learned a long time ago to change hoses belts and thermostat every 3 to 4 year to avoid failure of these parts and the damage cause by that. Also check fluids at least monthly. You will get an early warning of failures to come.

  • @harrowtiger
    @harrowtiger 3 роки тому +1

    BGM better come to Melbourne Victoria Australia and fix the Victoria Police Booze Bus (Drug & Alcohol Testing) Fleet - Whole fleet of new Booze Buses plagued with problems and now off the road again for rectification.

  • @steves4639
    @steves4639 3 роки тому +1

    Two thermostats on these?!? complicated! I understand the problem with scored cylinders, but what is the effect of scored pistons? of course they shouldn't be scored in the first place, but what problem does it cause? do the scores rub on the cylinder walls, causing more compression loss/oil burning?
    also, a 3point post hole digger is the best tool ever!

    • @BusGreaseMonkey
      @BusGreaseMonkey  3 роки тому

      Heat expands... pistons expand, liners expand and the two meet in the middle. The pistons try to seize and grab and that’s usually what breaks the liners and of course causes the scoring.

  • @willb3018
    @willb3018 3 роки тому +9

    Scary trespasser at the end there. Check your wallet. 😁

  • @robinengland5799
    @robinengland5799 Рік тому

    Great job.

  • @WAL_DC-6B
    @WAL_DC-6B 3 роки тому

    I buy my Harry's blades at Walmart. Can't beat the shave and the prices!

  • @emersonicuaudits
    @emersonicuaudits 3 роки тому

    I'd replace both sides since your in it already. Are pro's on each side of exhaust? That will keep heat in check. Does the owner know about drive by Pyro? When I am driving my Dodge with a Cummins and towing that something I must do.

  • @carlv8168
    @carlv8168 3 роки тому

    Tyler looks pretty good with his new haircut.

  • @HandyManDM
    @HandyManDM 3 роки тому

    Wondering if it would make sense to move the temp gauge sensor to the side that is more prone to overheating.

  • @bogiewheelman71
    @bogiewheelman71 3 роки тому

    Should have a heat sensor per each side of the engine if that can happen .

  • @thirdroompro
    @thirdroompro 3 роки тому

    1980 MC9,Crusader II ,8V71n DD.
    Hey guys, Dig your Channel and vids.
    2 year bus owner here,
    Is it really 13k per side to replace the piston sleeves? Did i hear that right?
    I am due for some engine love but at that price i may have to park it sadly.

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon4846 3 роки тому

    Harry's makes a fine product.

  • @steveswallows8525
    @steveswallows8525 3 роки тому

    Scott, call the sheriff and have a deputy come out and fill them in on what's going on. Ask them for extra patrol for a while and maybe they can cure this situation. With your vids they might recognise the problem people. Worth a try.

  • @Bruce-ub8dv
    @Bruce-ub8dv 3 роки тому

    Toss up a few "Smile you're on camera" signs too. Anyone out there will be trying to eagle eye the non-existent cameras.

  • @thecheeta
    @thecheeta 3 роки тому +1

    The owner should count his lucky stars that he's only rebuilding one side. I'd take some of that shopper's math (I saved $15K!) and check out all the rubber hoses, especially the ones on the air compressor. Those are Achilles Heel on these DDs.

  • @cableandchain
    @cableandchain 3 роки тому +1

    dam now he cant play rock paper scissors any more on the big rock lol

  • @mikahakkinen5651
    @mikahakkinen5651 3 роки тому

    movin sensors lamps are good too putting up somewhere.hope no tresspassing anymore

  • @Tiger351
    @Tiger351 3 роки тому

    Yep it's always the cheapest part failing that causes the largest repair bill, I've lost count of how many times bus companies I've worked for have trashed perfectly good engines cause they were too tight to replace a 50c washer or a $10 belt.

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez 3 роки тому

    12 to 15 THOUSAND dollars to rebuild the other half. I am blown away at the cost. No wonder you’re not rebuilding the good half.

  • @deathklock333
    @deathklock333 3 роки тому

    Dang, guess this almost turned into a hey Lance moment

  • @arthurhardy
    @arthurhardy 3 роки тому +1

    You would think that if they had two thermostats they would also have two temp. senders.

    • @BusGreaseMonkey
      @BusGreaseMonkey  3 роки тому +1

      They have a sensor on that side. But it does not go to a gauge on dash. Computer my guess. Not sure what it’s set to. Had 38 over heat codes stored i believe

  • @howardbeer5214
    @howardbeer5214 3 роки тому

    Hey Scott seeing as it has been over heating I think the valve stem oil seals will need replacing ??? as am sure they will have gone hard and brittle ?? Just a thought

  • @secure1234
    @secure1234 3 роки тому +1

    add a cattle vapper to the fence :) might help :)

  • @TheGalifrey
    @TheGalifrey 3 роки тому +1

    Along come the internet experts who can't afford a rebuild saying you should rebuild the whole engine 😂

  • @michaelwills7884
    @michaelwills7884 3 роки тому

    Who cut those injector tubes ?

  • @robertquast9684
    @robertquast9684 3 роки тому

    Was the snap on truck one of the trespassers you’re trying to keep out? While is sucks about the thermostat It is always nice to find a cause for the problems

  • @gerardmccarthy2432
    @gerardmccarthy2432 3 роки тому

    Yes it could have overheated before and the previous owner s mechanic could have said the left bank needed replacement as a min repair to get going when in fact both sides needed replacement at the prior time. The cleanliness of the piston and rings looks very low mileage imo.

  • @gmlover82
    @gmlover82 3 роки тому +1

    Love it! You guys are too funny!

  • @tomtheplummer7322
    @tomtheplummer7322 3 роки тому

    As long as you rebuild the right side and not the wrong side. 🤷‍♂️😏

  • @miguelcarter1949
    @miguelcarter1949 3 роки тому

    I’ve seen a 13 cent c clip cause total detonation

  • @fireantsarestrange
    @fireantsarestrange 3 роки тому +1

    Wow did you really get the SnapOn truck at your property?... How did they know? LOL

  • @richardbrennan6369
    @richardbrennan6369 3 роки тому

    I’m up here in Canada living out of my truck saving money to by a bus . Can somebody please tell me what engine should I be looking for . The price for a 3800 4e was $4500 with leaking hose rad and it wouldn’t start the guy wanted hit it with either . Like that was no big deal. 400 thousand Klm

  • @davidellison1929
    @davidellison1929 3 роки тому +1

    HEY SCOTT. I THINK I MAY HAVE A SECOND VALVE GRINDING MACHINE. IS THIS SOMETHING U THINK U WOULD USE?

  • @marchalpeck470
    @marchalpeck470 3 роки тому

    How hard would it be to put a temperature sensor on both banks, it would have saved the engine

  • @dalmatiangirl61
    @dalmatiangirl61 3 роки тому

    Are you sure that was not just the Tennessee welcoming committee? I'd at least put new rod bearings on the undamaged side.

  • @belowme4927
    @belowme4927 3 роки тому +1

    SO...IT WAS THE SNAP-ON GUY YOU CAUGHT ON CAMERA??

  • @jamesshanks2614
    @jamesshanks2614 3 роки тому

    Shouldn’t there a temp sensor to prevent this type of damage? Even if you had to install two additional temp gauges on the drivers position I would think he’d rather spend the extra money instead of going through this discovery ( OH MY WALLET ! ). Just thinking out loud trying to come up with a way to catch a malfunctioning thermostat. One for each head.
    Food for thought