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Great video. The Kurdish sentence you show in 5:48 is Kurmanci written with Perso-Arabic Sorani alphabet used in south (Iraq) Kurdistan. It is the same text with the Kurmanci words you show before so "di weqar" is pronounced the same..
Well I'm glad you enjoyed it and learnt something new, also I made a new video on Semitic languages if you'd like to learn more about Middle Eastern languages
I like the Turkish based script more than the English based one 😳 I don't really like diagraphs like "sh" you don't know if it is ش or ـسْهـ. I think I like the Arabic script the best but vowels look a bit better in Kurmanji script 👀 My classmate studied Sorani in high school here in Sweden 😎
I agree to an extent, I'd rather they use š or something, same with č for ch while keeping c for dj, because I don't really like j making a dj sound, it should be a y sound.
Awesome, glad you learned something new! A fun fact about Median: it was believed that Cleopatra studied it (she was a well known polyglot) to improve relations between Media and Egypt
8:20 a lot of other Kurdish dialects both in sorani and kurmanji have these sounds in standard sorani wê in gwêz is realized as göz and in the garmyani dialect of sorani we also have the ü sound
great video. Would love to know if there are efforts to create one standardised Kurdish language? How to Sorani and Kurmanji communicate? What about tv and radio?
I'm not sure, Kurmanji and Sorani seem to have their own standards. I imagine Kurmanji would be used in a future Kurdish state, unless the state is based in Northern Iraq. Who knows?
@@CheLanguages Kurmancî have the most speaker. Kurmancî and Soranî are both official languages in Iraqi Kurdistan (not only Soranî). Kurmancî is the only dialect spoken in all parts of Kurdistan. Soranî is spoken primarily in Iraqi and Iranian Kurdistan.❤💛💚
It's because Israel stands for indigenous peoples in the Middle East. My only concern about the Kurds in Iraq is how they treat the Assyrians, who are an indigenous people in Mesopotamia that I also feel very fondly towards
I speak Southern Kurdish and the letter "ۊ" or "Ü" in the Latin version of the Kurdish alphabet makes a very similar sound to the letter Ü in German and Turkish
@@7mad211 the IPA symbol for it is [y:] and sometimes [ʉ:] depending on the accent I can't give you an English equivalent cuz I don't think it's used in English but it's used in German and Turkish and it's written using the letter (Üü) in both languages too There is also another sound used only in Lekî dialect of Kurdish which is very similar to Southern Kurdish and they also have both [ø:] and [y:] And the [ø:] sound is pronounced just like the (Öö) in both Turkish and German but I don't think you will ever find a text written in Lekî at all cuz it's mostly only a spoken language Both Lekî and Southern Kurdish speakers write in Sorani instead.
Hello Teacher, I am a Caucasian Kurd, in short, I am from the north (Serhed). I have a question for you, if you have any ideas on this subject, I would be happy if you share them. The first ancient Kurdish language, rather than today's Proto-Kurdish, was developed after the collapse of the Medes, i.e. BC. It is estimated to have appeared in 500 BC. But I think Kurdish is one of the oldest Indo-European languages because I have reasons. I literally got the shock of my life when I researched the Proto-Indo-European language and compared it to the Kurdish (Kurmanji) dialect. The words of a language assumed to have been spoken in 5000 BC are used in the same way in Kurdish. Also, compared to other Indo-European languages, Kurdish seems closer to the Proto-Indo-European language. 60% of the words are also found in Kurdish, and it is easily understood that the remaining 30% of the words come from the same origin, although there are some differences. I saw that the 10% were completely different. This is due, of course, to words from different languages. However, the fact that the Kurdish (Kurmanji) dialect has preserved itself so well until today proves that Kurdish is one of the oldest Indo-European languages. But one of the reasons why it is so protected is that we are a semi-isolated people living in the mountains.
You are right, it preserves a lot of old vocabulary and it's quite easy to compare words between Kurmanji and other Indo-European Languages. Grammatically however, it's very different: the closest Indo-European languages grammatically to Proto-Indo-European are the Baltic languages, that is, Lithuanian and Latvian. This still does not mean that Kurdish isn't old though! But calling it "the oldest IE language" is a weird title given that they are all old...
@@papazataklaattiranimam the oldest written one, yes, but this still doesn't necessarily mean it's the oldest IE language, they are all old, they are all descendants if PIE
Shavua tov! That's a really insightful video. Just a thought, do the Kurmanji speakers in the northern Iranian enclave have a distinct dialect or is it just that they may have a distinguishable accent?
Gam Shavua Tov Lekha/akh! I wondered that too but sadly, I could find no information about it. It just lists that it exists, so unfortunately I cannot answer your question.
@@CheLanguages Yes sir there is. The accent spoken by the Kurmanji Kurds living in the Khorasan region of northern Iran is the Khorasani accent. Although there are some differences, we get along very well with each other. Half of the Kurmanc Kurds in Anatolia are Khorasan immigrants. However, it is very difficult for a Kurmanji to understand a Sorani. Although it is difficult to understand the dialects, the accents are understood very well. However, the Badini accent of the Kurmanji dialect is also incomprehensible. The reason for this is that it is actually a separate dialect but is accepted as a Kurmanji accent.
I speak Badini Kurmanji. I also think a common script among all dialects would be preferable. Because I am from North Iraq, I learned Kurdish with Perso-Arabic script. Latin Alphabet makes the most sense imo, because every Kurd from every region nowadays learns it in school, (either while learning Turkish or English) As Kurds (especially Turkish Kurds) will very likely not gain any state anytime soon, I think adopting the Hawar script would make the most sense, with perhaps additional diphthongs from the Yekgirtu proposal for the missing sounds. Even if all Kurds unite into one state, a common standardized language will be unlikely. Hebrew had the Torah as an unifying element, while Kurdish does not have anything like that. I would imagine situation more similar to India, where every dialect with enough regional support gets standardized, while maybe using English or Arabic for interdialectal communication. If against all odds a standard Kurdish language could be achieved, it would probably either Sorani(easier grammar, longer official use) or Kurmanji (has most speakers)
I am from Bakur. And please do not call us Turkish Kurds becuase we are just Kurds. Second. I do not think that we need one language. We are a big nation with many languages. We only need one common language. We have to preserve all Kurdish languages.
My friend Sorani dialect is very difficult and since they use the Arabic-Persian alphabet, it is impossible for any Kurdish state to be established in the future to be the official language. I do not think that Kurmanji Kurds will adopt the Arabic-Persian alphabet and use it. Also, a Sorani is more difficult to understand than a Chinese. Moreover, Sorani has turned into a mixture of Arabic, Turkish and Persian languages rather than Kurdish today. Therefore, it is more correct and necessary for the Kurmanji language to be the official language and to use the Latin alphabet.
@@The34Boy Sorani + Latin script is not too unrealistic. It is simply a fact that Sorani is easier to learn for Kurmanji speakers than the other way around. Kurmanji has very irregular grammar and the gender system is bullshit for non native speakers. In the end a common Kurdish language is very unlikely
I would guess Kurmanji would be used. It might just be better to kill off the other dialects to unify the Kurds into one instead of give them all regional recognition which could cause further separatism...
I hinted to it in the video but Laki is by some linguists considered to be the fourth Kurdish language, some also call Kordani a separate language too. If written in the Standard Kurdish Alphabet I mentioned, Kurds could write to each other with some intelligibility, but the further a Kurd travels across the Kurdish-speaking lands, the harder it is for him to understand fellow Kurds. That being said, once Kurmanji speaker I had the pleasure of talking to told me that they can still all understand each other, and yes, bilingualism helps if you spend time in a Sorani community as a Kurmanji speaker let's say
Guess the Kurdish languages can likely form a dialect continuum (i.e. the local dialects on the border areas of 2 languages are sharing common features with both)?
@@forgottenmusic1 pretty much, that's why it wasn't until recently (last few decades or so) that linguists started separating Southern Kurdish from Sorani, because it was viewed as a continuum of the same language
Kurmanji is also spoken by the Yazidis; as they have their very own religion, usually they are considered as a separate people, not subethnos of the Kurds.
I've been long interested in the Yazidis. I didn't mention them in this video because their stance on Kurdish is controversial. They are separate ethnoreligiously in my opinion, the same way Druze are separate to Arabs, but Yazidis are very political about it, even going as far to state their language is Semitic and not Indo-Iranian to separate themselves from the Kurds. They also call it Ezidi to further make themselves distinct. I really like the Yazidis but they are wrong and stubborn about their own language it seems
@@CheLanguages They are stubborn about many things. Traditionally, a Yazidi girl marrying non-Yazidi deserved a honor killing; as the forced marriages happened on such a large scale during the ISIS conquest, their clerics issued a decree that the women are allowed to return, but they have to abandon all the children. Though, honor killings have been practiced in the region in general, including Muslims and local Christians as well.
There is a theory that Kurmanji comes from the word kur meaning son In Kurdish. However, I only know "kur" means son In sorani as a native speaker. I don’t know kurmanji. The other word "manjji" has different origin of etomologies. It means magic coming from the magi from the there wise men In the Bible who are belived to have migrated from Persia to visit baby Jesus. But also reffering to Madi or Mada reffering to the Medes/Medians. So In full translation It would be “son of Medes”. Personally I think they are both connected. Because Magi is also what they called the priest In Zoroastrianism. Which was the religion of most Median citizens at the time .
@@CheLanguages It’s a bit complicated and a divided opinion between linguists. They can’t quite decide wether it’s Median or Parthian or a combination of the two.
Good Video thanks. Zazaki is roots of Kurdish language to me. Population , Kurdish are over 45million for sure , for political reasons the occupier countries minimising it.
Potentially. It separated from Parthian as dod Kurdish, so they're still close somewhat. But there's been so much mixing that Zaza and Kurdish are pretty united in identity, even if the languages have had separate histoires
@@CheLanguages exactly. Some Example an Animal or flower has several Name. Because, kurdish has 4-5 Dialects, and Land of kurds is Parcelled by 4 state
The reason for the non-centralization of the Kurdish language is not because of the dialects but because of the lack of a central state and the interference of the Arabic language because of Islam and the geographical divergence also because for centuries the Kurds were dissonant between the empires and the regional states, but idont think that its to late to moderate it and centralising it but it’s hard because of lake of its own stat(Kurdistan)
That is correct, but I would say it's both. The lack of a central Kurdish state has lead to the dialects, which has lead to the non-centralization of the Kurdish language. It's all connected
I know that you have seen me around this channel a lot. Hahaha. But I speak southern Kurdish or Xwerîn خوئرین My dialect of Xwerîn is Feylî a dialect spoken in Ilam and that waw with the dots is the ü sound we have in words such as how are you çünî Mi Kurdiya Feylî/Xwerîn qasiah kam م کوردی فئیلی/خوئرین قهسیه کهم
Kurdish and Balochi Basically the same language of the same people but the time and space created much changes and the lack of scripted writing caused the languge differences. all the great Partian kings names are mostly in Balochi having the meanigs in our language , anyhow great efforts
Good to know, as I said, that's what Wikipedia said, so I mentioned in the video that it might not be a trustworthy source. Sadly it was one of the only things I could find about it. Thank you for clarifying this mistake
@@HoosacValleyAhavah the Arabs, the Turks nor the Persians have not particularly been nice to the Kurds. Neither were the British and French either who promised them a state after WWI but failed to keep their promises
@@CheLanguages the more sad when you realize Kurds are in the same situation as Poles were during the partitions and Iran as a state is the same oppressive system as People's Republic of Poland. I feel so sorry when I think of them
Greetings from North of Kurdistan. Kurmanji is my mother tongue. Zazas and Goran are Kurds like us Kurmanjs. We are one nation with 10 languages. Bijî Kurdistan
Currently, the biggest opportunity for the Kurds to build a country is on the verge of war with Iran vs. Afghanistan. In this situation, if they secure Afghanistan's territory, declare the country, and strengthen the border with Iran, they can build a country sufficiently. We can do it the way Israel does it. It's a great opportunity
@@CheLanguages The most likely territory in the Arab Middle East is Afghanistan and there is absolutely no territory for the Kurds to build.. If it plays a role in the world's most heinous liberation of Afghanistan, it is Afghanistan, which is most likely to be supported by many countries, except here, where there is absolutely no territory for the Kurds to build a country
yes it’s bahdini probably “hemû mirov azad u dweqar mafan de wekhev tên dinyayê. ew xwedî hiş u şuûrin u divê li hember hev biz henîyeteke” as a garmiani speaker of sorani i don’t really understand this 100% looks a lot like kurmanji to me
Che 20:23 "And an angel of the LORD appeared to him in a dream and sayeth thus "Thou shalt educate the world about the tongue of the Kurds" and so when he awoke, he listened to what the LORD had commanded him and proceeded to set out on educating the world about the Kurdish language"
On the Kurdish people I suspect that they may actually be the living decedents of the Babylonians while the people of Syria may be the living decedents of The Assyrians but very Arabanised while there are the Assyrians who retained their identity. As for the people of Iraq I suspect them to be the living decedents of The Sumerians.
Some evidence for this might be nice given that genetics hugely disprove this. Kurds are Indo-European for a start, not Semitic nor Sumerian. Assyrians are a bit of a mix but for the most part, they're still descended from the original ones
@@CheLanguages the Kurds are in the location of Ancient Babylon in their ethnic group map for the most part. Who is to say the Babylonians are Semitic? They may be an Iranic people.
The Feyli dialect is very odd it is very close to Pashto and Parthian than the other Kurdish dialects and I speak a southern Kurdish you want some samples or I can explain pronunciation the و with two dots I don’t recognise it because we don’t have v only W in Farsi it is Virān but we say Wirān
@@CheLanguages min che languages im means I am che languages pishi is cat liwa is crazy ara means why agir means Fire sang means stone wiran is burn If you want more let me know
@@CheLanguages I mean like, the Medes started in north Western Iran and the Parthians in the far north East, doesnt seem plausible the went west, then east, then west again.
@@lobhabbrea history is complicated. You are talking about the empires, but not all of the people just miraculously moved at those same times - there was continuity.
Do you have a issue with stating that Kurdish is an Iranic (Iranian) language??? Your video makes it appears as though Kurdish is unrelated to other languages in the region, but give the full picture.. Kurdish is not a Semitic or Turkic language and is one of the north western Iranian languages along with Baluchi … and is closely related to Persian Your omission of the full facts is political ..
Did I not acknowledge the fact it's Indo-European? I do not deny that it's related to Persian, it's very obviously related and maybe it was so obvious I didn't feel I had to mention it. It was certainly not political at all
Unless the world collapses in a gigantic crisis, a Kurdish state can only be possible if one of the four states surrounding it supports its existence and thus the Kurdish nationalists give up on taking the Kurdish territories of that state this is since any Kurdish state, even in its greatest form would be landlocked and surrounded with unfriendly countries,which unlike in Europe, is not gonna be fine. Though some Kurdish nationalists often try to solve this by conjuring up coastlines in their proposed maps, these attempts rely on annexing regions with neither current nor historic Kurdish majority such as the Pontic and Hatay regions in Turkey or faking Lurs (a different ethnicity in Iran) as Kurds. The best country for this is probably Iran after the inevitable fall of the current regime, as unlike Arabs and Turks in Turkey, Syria and Iraq, the majority of none-Kurdish people of Iran are closely related to the Kurds in culture, mythology, history and language and the current movement has the Kurds at its heart with its main slogan "Woman, Life, Freedom" and its greatest martyr being Kurdish.
You raise a good point. I think if a Kurdish state was to arise peacefully, it would likely be the current borders of Iraqi Kurdistan. But this would leave many many Kurds out of the new state. Rojava in Syria is another potential area for it, maybe even the current borders of both Iraqi Kurdistan and Rojava combined would be used to create the new state. Turkiye is very unlikely to give up any lands, they hate the Kurds and that is a well known fact. I've seen some proposals that include the Turkish territory of Hatay (idk if it's still called that) for Kurdish coastline, but this would definitely cause problems. I think it's definitely possible a Kurdish state could arise, but not without problems, blood and fire. As war continues to rage on in the Middle East, especially Syria, it could be brought back into question. Also depending on what happens in Irân, they might get a new government that is more sympathetic if the revolution picks up more momentum, it's hard to say at the moment
Kurdish dialects are interchangeable, and are not languages. the loan words from different countries are what makes people confused when Kurds of from different regions as not all of them speak Arabic Turkish or Persian, Kurds from Turkey use a lot of Turkish words or kurdifide Turkish words as they were subjected to worst oppression of language and culture and still are to a large degree.
Urum is not Greek, but only ethnic Greeks speak it! Thus Urum is a Hellenic (Greek) language! That is your reasoning. Yes, they are distantly related to Kurdish, but Zazaki and Gorani developed separately alongside them, and there are still some ethnic Zazakis and Goranis who speak them, not just Kurds
@@CheLanguages Still trying to make up things, eh? Sugar puff, just because a handful of Greeks speek Turkish, that does not change the fact that they are Greeks. That is for your "reasoning." Zaza and Gurani are the old strata of languages among Kurds before the introduction of the new one (Kurmanji and Sorani group), just as the few Irish still speak the old Gallic language of the island, while the rest speak English. To your reasoning, only the English-speaking Irish are real Irish, not the old stratum of people! No deary, that is made up in your mind while you were aslepp
Sorani☀️krmanji☀️hawrami☀️zaza☀️gorani and pahlawani. Xowrzmi.kurdish language kurmanji and sorani became 8th language in the wotld not all kurdish language
Hello, thank you for the video. I am a Kurd from Turkey. yes, I admit that I realize that the Zaza language is not the Kurdish language. yes, it is obvious from the fact that it is close to northern Iran, that is, southern Caspian languages, in origin. Although it is very much influenced by the Kurmanji language, it does not change this. Zaza is an ergativ language, the reason for this is that it is very influenced by the editor. Since they are in close geography and contacts with Kurman speakers, they have been affected by the ergativism of the Kurman language and made this language ergativ.
Kurmanji didn't effectwd by Zazaki. Zazaki effected by Kurmanji as ergativism. Because Caspian and other Iranian languages aren't Ergative. Only Kurdish languages are ergative. It came from our archaic ancestors. Before the Indo-European migrations Kurds were Zagro-Taurusian people. After the Iranic migrations a new nation created in Zagros mountains as Kurd. Kurds=Iranic+Zagro-Taurusian. Even today there are thousands of words and grammar that do not match with Indo-European and other neighboring languages in Kurdish languages.
@@CheLanguages I do not mean you specifically, but there are many misconceptions about the southeast Anatolian region in the west.I can say that the southeastern Anatolia region is socio-culturally compatible with Turkey and there is no question of occupying the lands afterwards.Kurdish citizens in the Southeast speak Kurdish among themselves and can receive education in it.But as far as I can see, they mostly speak a mixture of Kurdish and Turkish.Therefore, my suggestion is to use striped color in the southeast Anatolia.
@@Εμπρός-μ4ω I see what you are saying, that's basically to do with the Kurdish genocide in Turkiye though. But Kurmanji speakers exist outside of Turkiye too
@@CheLanguages Yes, there are people who speak Kurmanchi Kurdish outside of Turkey, but there is no such thing as the Kurdish genocide.What I don't understand is, are these Turks the antichrist? Are they on trial for committing genocide against both the Armenians and the Greeks and now the Kurds?I'm not Turkish but I don't think these are real.
What do you think about Kurdish? Do you speak a Kurdish language?
It's always fascinated me, I hope we had more information about the third language
Kurds are based
Sadly I don't speak a Kurdish language though
@@QuandaleDingleGoofyAhh123 I wish so too
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewicz991 imagine a Kurdish-speaking Pole, maybe you could do that
Virgin normal UA-camrs "I made this video because my viewers wanted to see it" vs Gigachad Che Languages "I made this video because it came to me in a dream"
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@@Bigmistake47 real
I'm also looking forward to seeing the video about the Kurds on your other channel.
That's good to know! It'll be the next topic!
@@CheLanguages I know, you just said so in the video. 😄
@@Artur_M. Well yeah LOL
Great conclusion at the end, thanks and much appreciation from Kurdistan
Free Kurdistan! Glad you enjoyed the video!
I hope that someday I can visit and hear these beautiful languages being spoken in person
Maybe someday it'll be possible
Great video. The Kurdish sentence you show in 5:48 is Kurmanci written with Perso-Arabic Sorani alphabet used in south (Iraq) Kurdistan. It is the same text with the Kurmanci words you show before so "di weqar" is pronounced the same..
Ah thank you for the info!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video
@@CheLanguages no not really it says either dwaqar or duaqar the letter you read as H, is a vowel.
Awesome video!
Thank you!
I have no concept of any of the Middle Eastern languages, so this was all new info for me - which is why I like this channel!
Well I'm glad you enjoyed it and learnt something new, also I made a new video on Semitic languages if you'd like to learn more about Middle Eastern languages
The place looks like paradise mashalllah KURDISTAN so Beutiful
Kurdistan 🇹🇯🤍🇮🇱
I like the Turkish based script more than the English based one 😳 I don't really like diagraphs like "sh" you don't know if it is ش or ـسْهـ.
I think I like the Arabic script the best but vowels look a bit better in Kurmanji script 👀
My classmate studied Sorani in high school here in Sweden 😎
I agree to an extent, I'd rather they use š or something, same with č for ch while keeping c for dj, because I don't really like j making a dj sound, it should be a y sound.
@@CheLanguages J as IPA /j/, Sweden agrees with you 😎 (and Malta I gueds hehe)
I agree with you
God bless u for making this video ❤😢u became a voice for us❤
You're welcome! I hope you and your people can live in peace
@@CheLanguages thank you so much❤🥹🙌i hope the same, i Live in Norway but sometimes we hear people get injured by turks, so we have to always careful
@@SpeakingFacts12390 that's sad to hear thqt you're not even safe in the diaspora. As a Jew I can relate
Kurdish being related to Median was a huge lightbulb going on in my head. Never made that connection
Awesome, glad you learned something new! A fun fact about Median: it was believed that Cleopatra studied it (she was a well known polyglot) to improve relations between Media and Egypt
Loving the content keep it up
Thank you!
Yay kurdish!
Yay indeed
8:20 a lot of other Kurdish dialects both in sorani and kurmanji have these sounds in standard sorani wê in gwêz is realized as göz and in the garmyani dialect of sorani we also have the ü sound
Very cool
I hope Kurdistan is free soon! 🇵🇱💪🏼🇹🇯
Me too, Free Kurdistan!
Btw did you use a Tajik flag for Kurdistan there? I didn't think about that, good idea
Free Kurdistan
@@CheLanguages yes I did, it's similar enough
@@AvrahamYairStern Tak! 🇵🇱💪🏼🇹🇯
The fact that you saw this in a dream emphasize hoe much attention you put in your work.
What's that supposed to mean?
@@CheLanguages
*how much
@@מ.מ-ה9ד yes I got that, but still, what do you mean by that? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Tanks for the great Video. I m Kurd who live in Germany. Im Kurmancî-speaker. It's a shame that we don't have a standardised language.
You're welcome. Is Kurmanci not standardised enough?
great video. Would love to know if there are efforts to create one standardised Kurdish language? How to Sorani and Kurmanji communicate? What about tv and radio?
I'm not sure, Kurmanji and Sorani seem to have their own standards. I imagine Kurmanji would be used in a future Kurdish state, unless the state is based in Northern Iraq. Who knows?
@@CheLanguages Kurmancî have the most speaker. Kurmancî and Soranî are both official languages in Iraqi Kurdistan (not only Soranî). Kurmancî is the only dialect spoken in all parts of Kurdistan. Soranî is spoken primarily in Iraqi and Iranian Kurdistan.❤💛💚
Israel's love for the Kurds moves me to tears.
It's because Israel stands for indigenous peoples in the Middle East. My only concern about the Kurds in Iraq is how they treat the Assyrians, who are an indigenous people in Mesopotamia that I also feel very fondly towards
I speak Southern Kurdish and the letter "ۊ" or "Ü" in the Latin version of the Kurdish alphabet makes a very similar sound to the letter Ü in German and Turkish
Thank you, that's great to know!
how it is pronounced?
@@7mad211 the IPA symbol for it is [y:] and sometimes [ʉ:] depending on the accent
I can't give you an English equivalent cuz I don't think it's used in English but it's used in German and Turkish and it's written using the letter (Üü) in both languages too
There is also another sound used only in Lekî dialect of Kurdish which is very similar to Southern Kurdish and they also have both [ø:] and [y:]
And the [ø:] sound is pronounced just like the (Öö) in both Turkish and German but I don't think you will ever find a text written in Lekî at all cuz it's mostly only a spoken language
Both Lekî and Southern Kurdish speakers write in Sorani instead.
Hello Teacher, I am a Caucasian Kurd, in short, I am from the north (Serhed). I have a question for you, if you have any ideas on this subject, I would be happy if you share them. The first ancient Kurdish language, rather than today's Proto-Kurdish, was developed after the collapse of the Medes, i.e. BC. It is estimated to have appeared in 500 BC. But I think Kurdish is one of the oldest Indo-European languages because I have reasons. I literally got the shock of my life when I researched the Proto-Indo-European language and compared it to the Kurdish (Kurmanji) dialect. The words of a language assumed to have been spoken in 5000 BC are used in the same way in Kurdish. Also, compared to other Indo-European languages, Kurdish seems closer to the Proto-Indo-European language. 60% of the words are also found in Kurdish, and it is easily understood that the remaining 30% of the words come from the same origin, although there are some differences. I saw that the 10% were completely different. This is due, of course, to words from different languages. However, the fact that the Kurdish (Kurmanji) dialect has preserved itself so well until today proves that Kurdish is one of the oldest Indo-European languages. But one of the reasons why it is so protected is that we are a semi-isolated people living in the mountains.
You are right, it preserves a lot of old vocabulary and it's quite easy to compare words between Kurmanji and other Indo-European Languages. Grammatically however, it's very different: the closest Indo-European languages grammatically to Proto-Indo-European are the Baltic languages, that is, Lithuanian and Latvian. This still does not mean that Kurdish isn't old though! But calling it "the oldest IE language" is a weird title given that they are all old...
@@CheLanguages Oldest one was Hittite though
@@papazataklaattiranimam the oldest written one, yes, but this still doesn't necessarily mean it's the oldest IE language, they are all old, they are all descendants if PIE
Go and reading 📖 who are the Kurds book 📖
It still says di weqar, just a font issue, as 'e' is written with a letter that looks like h in arabic.
Ah OK thank you
Thank you! Her biji
No problem
Interesting that that word is written "Xwarig", I would expect it to be romanized "Khuarig". Either way, cool language!
X is an easy way to represent Kh, after all that's how it looks in Greek, Cyrillic and the IPA!
Edit: I misspelled IPA somehow
Shavua tov! That's a really insightful video. Just a thought, do the Kurmanji speakers in the northern Iranian enclave have a distinct dialect or is it just that they may have a distinguishable accent?
Gam Shavua Tov Lekha/akh! I wondered that too but sadly, I could find no information about it. It just lists that it exists, so unfortunately I cannot answer your question.
@@CheLanguages Yes sir there is. The accent spoken by the Kurmanji Kurds living in the Khorasan region of northern Iran is the Khorasani accent. Although there are some differences, we get along very well with each other. Half of the Kurmanc Kurds in Anatolia are Khorasan immigrants. However, it is very difficult for a Kurmanji to understand a Sorani. Although it is difficult to understand the dialects, the accents are understood very well. However, the Badini accent of the Kurmanji dialect is also incomprehensible. The reason for this is that it is actually a separate dialect but is accepted as a Kurmanji accent.
@@The34Boy Thank you for letting me know! Free Kurdistan!
Kurdistan ❤
Free Kurdistan 🇮🇱💪🏼🇹🇯
5:50 this is kurmanji only written in sorani script, it is not sorani.
Really?
@@CheLanguages yes it is the exact kurmanji text that you mentioned earlier in the video
5:50 I think دوهقار is something like diweqaar, since I believe the unconnected ه represents an e-sound 👀
I though it was an H at the start of the new word, though I could be wrong
@@CheLanguages I think it is if it is connected like وهقار vs وهقار, however I have only learned a little Kurdish so far so it might be wrong 😅
Where could I learn any of these?
A Kurdish friend I spoke to said there are some good channels on UA-cam for learning Kurmanji, I'll make a community post soon for them
@@CheLanguages awesome, I'll look out for it
Quite interesting.
I'm glad you found it interesting, which is your favorite Kurdish language?
@@CheLanguages Hard to say. Until I watched this video, I had no idea that there were more than one. I guess the northern, if I had to pick.
@@gazoontight good to know!
I speak Badini Kurmanji. I also think a common script among all dialects would be preferable. Because I am from North Iraq, I learned Kurdish with Perso-Arabic script.
Latin Alphabet makes the most sense imo, because every Kurd from every region nowadays learns it in school, (either while learning Turkish or English)
As Kurds (especially Turkish Kurds) will very likely not gain any state anytime soon, I think adopting the Hawar script would make the most sense, with perhaps additional diphthongs from the Yekgirtu proposal for the missing sounds.
Even if all Kurds unite into one state, a common standardized language will be unlikely. Hebrew had the Torah as an unifying element, while Kurdish does not have anything like that. I would imagine situation more similar to India, where every dialect with enough regional support gets standardized, while maybe using English or Arabic for interdialectal communication.
If against all odds a standard Kurdish language could be achieved, it would probably either Sorani(easier grammar, longer official use) or Kurmanji (has most speakers)
I am from Bakur. And please do not call us Turkish Kurds becuase we are just Kurds. Second. I do not think that we need one language. We are a big nation with many languages. We only need one common language. We have to preserve all Kurdish languages.
@@Kurdedunaysiri You are 100% right
My friend Sorani dialect is very difficult and since they use the Arabic-Persian alphabet, it is impossible for any Kurdish state to be established in the future to be the official language. I do not think that Kurmanji Kurds will adopt the Arabic-Persian alphabet and use it. Also, a Sorani is more difficult to understand than a Chinese. Moreover, Sorani has turned into a mixture of Arabic, Turkish and Persian languages rather than Kurdish today. Therefore, it is more correct and necessary for the Kurmanji language to be the official language and to use the Latin alphabet.
@@The34Boy Sorani + Latin script is not too unrealistic. It is simply a fact that Sorani is easier to learn for Kurmanji speakers than the other way around. Kurmanji has very irregular grammar and the gender system is bullshit for non native speakers.
In the end a common Kurdish language is very unlikely
I would guess Kurmanji would be used. It might just be better to kill off the other dialects to unify the Kurds into one instead of give them all regional recognition which could cause further separatism...
Thank you so much Sir💙LOVE your vidéo 🙏
Thank you! It means a lot
Thank you
No problem, I'm glad that you enjoyed the video!
Thank you bro
You are most welcome!
Kurdish is divided into three or four groups, where languages from different groups are not mutually intelligible without acquired bilingualism.
I hinted to it in the video but Laki is by some linguists considered to be the fourth Kurdish language, some also call Kordani a separate language too. If written in the Standard Kurdish Alphabet I mentioned, Kurds could write to each other with some intelligibility, but the further a Kurd travels across the Kurdish-speaking lands, the harder it is for him to understand fellow Kurds. That being said, once Kurmanji speaker I had the pleasure of talking to told me that they can still all understand each other, and yes, bilingualism helps if you spend time in a Sorani community as a Kurmanji speaker let's say
Guess the Kurdish languages can likely form a dialect continuum (i.e. the local dialects on the border areas of 2 languages are sharing common features with both)?
@@forgottenmusic1 pretty much, that's why it wasn't until recently (last few decades or so) that linguists started separating Southern Kurdish from Sorani, because it was viewed as a continuum of the same language
I see they suffer from the same problem the Danes do.
I knew that you’re obsessed with us. You Turks are a joke 😂
Kurmanji is also spoken by the Yazidis; as they have their very own religion, usually they are considered as a separate people, not subethnos of the Kurds.
I've been long interested in the Yazidis. I didn't mention them in this video because their stance on Kurdish is controversial. They are separate ethnoreligiously in my opinion, the same way Druze are separate to Arabs, but Yazidis are very political about it, even going as far to state their language is Semitic and not Indo-Iranian to separate themselves from the Kurds. They also call it Ezidi to further make themselves distinct. I really like the Yazidis but they are wrong and stubborn about their own language it seems
@@CheLanguages They are stubborn about many things. Traditionally, a Yazidi girl marrying non-Yazidi deserved a honor killing; as the forced marriages happened on such a large scale during the ISIS conquest, their clerics issued a decree that the women are allowed to return, but they have to abandon all the children. Though, honor killings have been practiced in the region in general, including Muslims and local Christians as well.
@@forgottenmusic1 yeah, that sort of stuff is unacceptable really. I still find their culture interesting though
Have you / so you ever plan on doing the Ossetian language?
3 Forgotten Iranian Languages....
Her bijî Kurdistan💚☀❤
Real
Is that map from the late 60's - 70's, or did you just change it yourself?
Ah, somebody noticed....
Im kudrish... thank you
No problem, do you speak a Kurdish language?
@@CheLanguages yes
@@ibrahim.kurdish which one?
@@CheLanguages kurdish
@@ibrahim.kurdish yes, but which Kurdish? Kurmanji? Sorani? Xwarig?
I had no idea Kurdish languages use latin letters!
Edit: OH never mind, they only use it in turkey, that makes more sense.
And in Rojava (de facto independent Kurdish state in Eastern Syria due to the power vacuum caused in the civil war) too!
There is a theory that Kurmanji comes from the word kur meaning son In Kurdish. However, I only know "kur" means son In sorani as a native speaker. I don’t know kurmanji. The other word "manjji" has different origin of etomologies. It means magic coming from the magi from the there wise men In the Bible who are belived to have migrated from Persia to visit baby Jesus. But also reffering to Madi or Mada reffering to the Medes/Medians. So In full translation It would be “son of Medes”. Personally I think they are both connected. Because Magi is also what they called the priest In Zoroastrianism. Which was the religion of most Median citizens at the time .
Very interesting etymology, and Kurdish is derived from Median, correct ?
@@CheLanguages It’s a bit complicated and a divided opinion between linguists. They can’t quite decide wether it’s Median or Parthian or a combination of the two.
Why is Israel that size on the map?
Ah, someone noticed my little edit....
Because Che Languages is Based
@@AvrahamYairStern thank you
Good Video thanks. Zazaki is roots of Kurdish language to me. Population , Kurdish are over 45million for sure , for political reasons the occupier countries minimising it.
Potentially. It separated from Parthian as dod Kurdish, so they're still close somewhat. But there's been so much mixing that Zaza and Kurdish are pretty united in identity, even if the languages have had separate histoires
Kurdish language has very rich Word range. Wikipedia has Listed on 9th Place in all World languages
I don't understand what you mean. Placebo?
@@CheLanguages sorry, now corrected. My mobile Fon has Written automaticly. Correct, 9th Place
@@NA-sz6eb aha I see, I get it. You mean it has a lot of possible words? Given that it's closely related to Persian, I can believe that
@@CheLanguages exactly. Some Example an Animal or flower has several Name. Because, kurdish has 4-5 Dialects, and Land of kurds is Parcelled by 4 state
@@NA-sz6eb definitely. I like the phrase you used there, "parcelled by four states". It's very sad but true
The reason for the non-centralization of the Kurdish language is not because of the dialects but because of the lack of a central state and the interference of the Arabic language because of Islam and the geographical divergence also because for centuries the Kurds were dissonant between the empires and the regional states, but idont think that its to late to moderate it and centralising it but it’s hard because of lake of its own stat(Kurdistan)
That is correct, but I would say it's both. The lack of a central Kurdish state has lead to the dialects, which has lead to the non-centralization of the Kurdish language. It's all connected
3:27 not banned now but still heavily discouraged and act as if it were banned.
My apologies, I know it used to be
I know that you have seen me around this channel a lot. Hahaha. But I speak southern Kurdish or Xwerîn خوئرین
My dialect of Xwerîn is Feylî a dialect spoken in Ilam and that waw with the dots is the ü sound we have in words such as how are you çünî
Mi Kurdiya Feylî/Xwerîn qasiah kam
م کوردی فئیلی/خوئرین قهسیه کهم
Amazing
Kurdish and Balochi Basically the same language of the same people but the time and space created much changes and the lack of scripted writing caused the languge differences. all the great Partian kings names are mostly in Balochi having the meanigs in our language , anyhow great efforts
How similar are they today?
مرحبا اخي العزيز شكرن لك علي هذا الفيدو و فرحنا كثير بس انت نسيت اللغة و اللهجة اللورية و شكران لك
Lori is not Kurdish, which is why I didn't include it
I’m a southern Kurdish speaker and that is not true, we do not palatalise N before s or z. Yânza is just pronounced yânza?
Good to know, as I said, that's what Wikipedia said, so I mentioned in the video that it might not be a trustworthy source. Sadly it was one of the only things I could find about it. Thank you for clarifying this mistake
Is Kurdish more often written in Latin or Arabic script
It is yes, due to the diaspora, population of Kurmanji speakers and a general push for Romanization in the Kurdish Nationalist Movement
@@CheLanguages Plus the Arabs have not been nice and given them a state ,if I were Kurd I'd be pro Roman too
@@HoosacValleyAhavah the Arabs, the Turks nor the Persians have not particularly been nice to the Kurds. Neither were the British and French either who promised them a state after WWI but failed to keep their promises
Ah yes, the Kurdish branch of Iranic languages, beautiful
Very beautiful
@@CheLanguages the more sad when you realize Kurds are in the same situation as Poles were during the partitions and Iran as a state is the same oppressive system as People's Republic of Poland. I feel so sorry when I think of them
@@ladahieno2382 exactly
@@ladahieno2382 thank u for ur sympathy ❤🥹i have Polish friends, lovely ppl❤❤
I'm Kurdish (Kurmancî) speaker, thanks for video. Kurdish is not a language to be feared, as the occupiers think. 🤣
I agree with you, may Kurdistan be free soon! 🇮🇱💪🏼🇹🇯
زمانێک و نەتەوەیەک هەبووە ٧٠٠٠ ساڵ پتر لە شاخەکانی قەفقاس و تەنادۆڵ و زاگرۆز و تۆرۆس دەریاچەی قەزوێن و ئەنادۆڵ قسەی پێ کراوە دوای چاخی بەردین و ژیانی ئەشکەوتەکان سەردەمی کشتوکاڵ و برۆنز و ماڵی کردنی ئەسپ هەندێکیان کۆچیان کردوە بۆ ئەوروپا و هەندێکیان بۆ هندستان و ئیران و روسیا،،، هتد، ئیستا پسپۆرانی زمان ناویان ناوە زمانی هیند و ئەوروپی، کۆچکەرەکان ئەو زمانەیان لەگەڵ خۆیانا بردوەو زمانەکە گەشە و ئیڤۆڵڤی کردوە بونەتە زمانی نوێ ، بەس هێشتا هەندێک ووشەی هاوبەش وەکو خۆی ماوە ، لەو زمانانە کوردی و فارسی و ئیتالی و یونانی و ئەلمانی و ئینگلیزی و فەرەنسی ، ئیسپانی و سکاندانافیەکان و رووسیا و لاتین و … هتد زمانەکانی ئەوروپا بە گشتی و باکوری هندستان… هتد ، ئیستا لە ٪٤٨ دانیشتوانی زەوی بەو زمانانە قسە دەکەن کە ڕەگەکەی هەمان زمانە، سەیرێکی ئەم ووشانە بکە لە نیوان کوردی و ئینگلیزیدا بۆ نموونە ، دلنیام لە نیوان زمانەکانی تری ئەوروپیشدا ئەم لێکچونانە هەن. بە رای من زمانی کوردی نزیکترینە لە پرۆتۆ هیند و ئەوروپی یە ئەسلیەکە بە هۆی ئەوەی کوردەکان کۆچیان نەکردوە هەر لە ناوچەکانی قەفقاز زاگرۆزا ماون ، بۆ زانیاریتان ئەمەریکی یەکان بە رەگەزی ئەوروپی دەڵێن Caucasian واتە قەفقاسیەکان، میژووش دەڵێ رەگەزی ئەوروپی لەو شاخانەوە ئیڤۆلڤیان کردوە دوای چاخی بەردین (پالیۆلیثیکاڵ) کە ئەسپ ماڵی کراوە کۆچیان کردوە بۆ ئەوروپاو ئیران و هند. ، سەیرێکی ئەم ووشانە بکە لە نیوان ئینگلیزی و کوردیدا دوای هەزاران ساڵ دابڕان لە یەکتر و ئیڤۆلڤیان هێشتا هەر لێکچونیان ماوە
Here =ere=ئێرە
Shame = شەرم
نوێ =nwe=New
نمرە = number
گەرگەرە= Gargle
کرۆک = core
چەقەڵ = Jackal
کەرت= cut
لیک ، لیکی دەم = leak , Leakage
قاز = goose
Cave = کێو ، کێڤ
Yuk = یەع
برادەر=brother
Nene= نەنە نەنێ
Slut = سەلێتە
رەگەز =race
لات = lad
Lip = لەپ یان لێو
برۆ= eye brow
Pyjama = پێ + چامە , بیجامە
ناو = name
من = me
گەرم= warm
Figs = فیقی بە هەوڵێری = هەنجیر
Honey ، hun = هەنگ هەنگوین
هێک ، هێلکە = egg
دۆ= dough
دوو = two
Nine = نۆ
Caravan = کاروان
راست = right
کەلتوور= culture
Pussy cat = پشی ، پشیلە
Devil = دێڤ ، دێو
Cunning : کان ، کانەبەرد
Chance = شانس
Jungle = جەنگەڵ ، جەنگڵستان
پەڕە= paper
No = نا
Star = ئەستێرە
Swan = سۆنە
Murdered = مرد یان مر
Barking = باڕە باڕ
Tame = تەمێ
Naughty = لۆتی
Cotton = کەتان
Harassment = هەراسان
Catastrophe= کارەسات ( کار + سات)
Team = تیپ
Ratio = ڕێژە
Sour = سوێر
Rhythm : ڕیزم
« لە ووشەی ڕیز ەوە سەرچاوەی گرتوە»
Door = ، دەرگا ، دەری ، دەر
دانساز = dentist
کلیل = key
دڵۆپ = drop
دوو دڵۆپ= two drops
مانگ. ماە=moon
گری ، گریان= cry
بوز= buzz
زۆڵ = zealot
هیچ= zilch
یانە = union
گری ، گریان= cry
ببی یان نەبی = to be or not to be
تەپ ، تەپە = Top
گرت = grasp
ماسولکە= macular
….. much more
Thank you for the examples
Greetings from North of Kurdistan. Kurmanji is my mother tongue. Zazas and Goran are Kurds like us Kurmanjs. We are one nation with 10 languages. Bijî Kurdistan
Thank you for your comment friend! May indigenous peoples of the Middle East be free, Free Kurdistan! 🇮🇱🤍🇹🇯
Kurdistan is the best city in the world we have to many good foods we r too friendly person u can visit Kurdistan and Erbil
Hmm yes, Kurdistan best city
Currently, the biggest opportunity for the Kurds to build a country is on the verge of war with Iran vs. Afghanistan. In this situation, if they secure Afghanistan's territory, declare the country, and strengthen the border with Iran, they can build a country sufficiently. We can do it the way Israel does it. It's a great opportunity
So, stealing Afghanistan's territory? I mean, Afghans are just Persians, so there could be a population exchange perhaps
@@CheLanguages The most likely territory in the Arab Middle East is Afghanistan and there is absolutely no territory for the Kurds to build.. If it plays a role in the world's most heinous liberation of Afghanistan, it is Afghanistan, which is most likely to be supported by many countries, except here, where there is absolutely no territory for the Kurds to build a country
@@pokjunam2163 Afghanistan is not in the Arab Middle East, it is Central Asia. I do not see why the current Kurdish territories do not suffice
5:30 that’s kurmanji written there bro not sorani
Are you sure about that?
yes it’s bahdini probably “hemû mirov azad u dweqar mafan de wekhev tên dinyayê. ew xwedî hiş u şuûrin u divê li hember hev biz henîyeteke” as a garmiani speaker of sorani i don’t really understand this 100% looks a lot like kurmanji to me
@@KamtiaarGarmian it said it was the Sorani sample
As a kurd i still find it so hard to speak kurdish 😂
LOL
Which dialect?
@@CheLanguages sorani !
@@vlevon Awesome!
The Kurdish Languages
The Kurdish Languages
Making a video because it came to you in a dream is the sort of thing of Biblical proportions LOL
Che 20:23 "And an angel of the LORD appeared to him in a dream and sayeth thus "Thou shalt educate the world about the tongue of the Kurds" and so when he awoke, he listened to what the LORD had commanded him and proceeded to set out on educating the world about the Kurdish language"
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewicz991 that's amazing LOL. It wasn't quite G-D who gave me the idea but still
@@CheLanguages Polish humor be like
On the Kurdish people I suspect that they may actually be the living decedents of the Babylonians while the people of Syria may be the living decedents of The Assyrians but very Arabanised while there are the Assyrians who retained their identity. As for the people of Iraq I suspect them to be the living decedents of The Sumerians.
Some evidence for this might be nice given that genetics hugely disprove this. Kurds are Indo-European for a start, not Semitic nor Sumerian. Assyrians are a bit of a mix but for the most part, they're still descended from the original ones
@@CheLanguages the Kurds are in the location of Ancient Babylon in their ethnic group map for the most part. Who is to say the Babylonians are Semitic? They may be an Iranic people.
@@sethfrisbie3957 no, the Kurds lie just North of Ancient Babylon, the Kurds are descended from the Ancient Medes
@@sethfrisbie3957 we know the Babylonians were Semitic btw, they spoke Akkadian too
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The Feyli dialect is very odd it is very close to Pashto and Parthian than the other Kurdish dialects and I speak a southern Kurdish you want some samples or I can explain pronunciation the و with two dots I don’t recognise it because we don’t have v only W in Farsi it is Virān but we say Wirān
Good to know. I'll be in touch if I ever make a later video on Kurdish
@@CheLanguages okay
@@CheLanguages if you want some basic words I can
@@Kurd99 yeah cool
@@CheLanguages min che languages im means I am che languages pishi is cat liwa is crazy ara means why agir means Fire sang means stone wiran is burn
If you want more let me know
no way parthian is descended from median
Yes way!
@@CheLanguages I mean like, the Medes started in north Western Iran and the Parthians in the far north East, doesnt seem plausible the went west, then east, then west again.
@@lobhabbrea history is complicated. You are talking about the empires, but not all of the people just miraculously moved at those same times - there was continuity.
Zaza/Goranis are Kurd too.
Yes and no, technically they're different but in the modern day they've pretty much merged again ethnically but their language is still different
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I hope you liked the video
Do you have a issue with stating that Kurdish is an Iranic (Iranian) language??? Your video makes it appears as though Kurdish is unrelated to other languages in the region, but give the full picture.. Kurdish is not a Semitic or Turkic language and is one of the north western Iranian languages along with Baluchi … and is closely related to Persian
Your omission of the full facts is political ..
Did I not acknowledge the fact it's Indo-European? I do not deny that it's related to Persian, it's very obviously related and maybe it was so obvious I didn't feel I had to mention it. It was certainly not political at all
Pray for Turkey and siyria
🕎✡️🇮🇱🤍 נתפלל לטורקיה אחינו, אלא לא לסוריה, אויבנו
@@CheLanguages I can't read hebrew
@@CheLanguages and I am muslim btw
@@hamzsportsgaming676 ah sorry, I said "We will pray for Türkiye our brothers"
@@CheLanguageshypocritical, shame on you.
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Thank you for the support
Hi. it's not the Arabic but mostly a Persian script. Arabic doesn't have some of the letters like: پ چ گ ژ
Did I maybe say Perso-Arabic in the video? If not, that should have been my choice of words
@@CheLanguages Perso-Arabic is actually a more accurate one. That's it.
@@fereshteh1187 indeed that is the term
Hehe 4200 subs
Yes, and it's all thanks to you all!
Unless the world collapses in a gigantic crisis, a Kurdish state can only be possible if one of the four states surrounding it supports its existence and thus the Kurdish nationalists give up on taking the Kurdish territories of that state this is since any Kurdish state, even in its greatest form would be landlocked and surrounded with unfriendly countries,which unlike in Europe, is not gonna be fine. Though some Kurdish nationalists often try to solve this by conjuring up coastlines in their proposed maps, these attempts rely on annexing regions with neither current nor historic Kurdish majority such as the Pontic and Hatay regions in Turkey or faking Lurs (a different ethnicity in Iran) as Kurds.
The best country for this is probably Iran after the inevitable fall of the current regime, as unlike Arabs and Turks in Turkey, Syria and Iraq, the majority of none-Kurdish people of Iran are closely related to the Kurds in culture, mythology, history and language and the current movement has the Kurds at its heart with its main slogan "Woman, Life, Freedom" and its greatest martyr being Kurdish.
You raise a good point. I think if a Kurdish state was to arise peacefully, it would likely be the current borders of Iraqi Kurdistan. But this would leave many many Kurds out of the new state. Rojava in Syria is another potential area for it, maybe even the current borders of both Iraqi Kurdistan and Rojava combined would be used to create the new state. Turkiye is very unlikely to give up any lands, they hate the Kurds and that is a well known fact. I've seen some proposals that include the Turkish territory of Hatay (idk if it's still called that) for Kurdish coastline, but this would definitely cause problems. I think it's definitely possible a Kurdish state could arise, but not without problems, blood and fire. As war continues to rage on in the Middle East, especially Syria, it could be brought back into question. Also depending on what happens in Irân, they might get a new government that is more sympathetic if the revolution picks up more momentum, it's hard to say at the moment
Kurdish dialects are interchangeable, and are not languages.
the loan words from different countries are what makes people confused when Kurds of from different regions as not all of them speak Arabic Turkish or Persian, Kurds from Turkey use a lot of Turkish words or kurdifide Turkish words as they were subjected to worst oppression of language and culture and still are to a large degree.
Thank you for the information
So, you say that Zazaki and Gurani "are not Kurdish," but only the Kurds speak them! Were you thinkin while you were making this video in your sleep?
Urum is not Greek, but only ethnic Greeks speak it! Thus Urum is a Hellenic (Greek) language! That is your reasoning. Yes, they are distantly related to Kurdish, but Zazaki and Gorani developed separately alongside them, and there are still some ethnic Zazakis and Goranis who speak them, not just Kurds
@@CheLanguages Still trying to make up things, eh? Sugar puff, just because a handful of Greeks speek Turkish, that does not change the fact that they are Greeks. That is for your "reasoning." Zaza and Gurani are the old strata of languages among Kurds before the introduction of the new one (Kurmanji and Sorani group), just as the few Irish still speak the old Gallic language of the island, while the rest speak English. To your reasoning, only the English-speaking Irish are real Irish, not the old stratum of people! No deary, that is made up in your mind while you were aslepp
Sorani☀️krmanji☀️hawrami☀️zaza☀️gorani and pahlawani. Xowrzmi.kurdish language kurmanji and sorani became 8th language in the wotld not all kurdish language
Thank you for this information
You firget about one more kurdish language hawrami
Isn't it a dialect?
lors are kurds
Yes, kinda
Im lak and we are NOT kurd
OK cool!
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Hello, thank you for the video. I am a Kurd from Turkey. yes, I admit that I realize that the Zaza language is not the Kurdish language. yes, it is obvious from the fact that it is close to northern Iran, that is, southern Caspian languages, in origin. Although it is very much influenced by the Kurmanji language, it does not change this. Zaza is an ergativ language, the reason for this is that it is very influenced by the editor. Since they are in close geography and contacts with Kurman speakers, they have been affected by the ergativism of the Kurman language and made this language ergativ.
Also many Zaza speakers are actually ethnic Kurds instead of Zazakis. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Kurmanji didn't effectwd by Zazaki. Zazaki effected by Kurmanji as ergativism. Because Caspian and other Iranian languages aren't Ergative. Only Kurdish languages are ergative. It came from our archaic ancestors. Before the Indo-European migrations Kurds were Zagro-Taurusian people. After the Iranic migrations a new nation created in Zagros mountains as Kurd. Kurds=Iranic+Zagro-Taurusian.
Even today there are thousands of words and grammar that do not match with Indo-European and other neighboring languages in Kurdish languages.
@@antoniobruno12 fascinating
Her biji kurdistan, they have tried so hard to make the kurds forhet their own languege.
Yes
Kurmanji Kurdish speakers also speak turkish
Some can, not all
@@CheLanguages I do not mean you specifically, but there are many misconceptions about the southeast Anatolian region in the west.I can say that the southeastern Anatolia region is socio-culturally compatible with Turkey and there is no question of occupying the lands afterwards.Kurdish citizens in the Southeast speak Kurdish among themselves and can receive education in it.But as far as I can see, they mostly speak a mixture of Kurdish and Turkish.Therefore, my suggestion is to use striped color in the southeast Anatolia.
@@Εμπρός-μ4ω I see what you are saying, that's basically to do with the Kurdish genocide in Turkiye though. But Kurmanji speakers exist outside of Turkiye too
@@CheLanguages Yes, there are people who speak Kurmanchi Kurdish outside of Turkey, but there is no such thing as the Kurdish genocide.What I don't understand is, are these Turks the antichrist? Are they on trial for committing genocide against both the Armenians and the Greeks and now the Kurds?I'm not Turkish but I don't think these are real.
@@Εμπρός-μ4ω Most of Kurmanji people don’t know their language also