It's freaking ridiculous how people expect Italy to hand out citizenship for free. Many people work hard to get a citizenship in Italy after immigrating legally, and somehow people who made the wrong call to take the path of dangerous illegal entry is to be awarded citizenship because they came unsafely? How is that ever fair for the people who abide law and work hard?
***** True. I think they could easily handle at least 100,000 refugees each, and still have enough money left to build their huge buildings and stadiums and artificial islands.
Shahnawaz Khan UAE will never let their slave workers into the country on a permanent basis.They work very cheap, and when they are tired or sick or old they must leave to go back to whatever place they came from.They are disposable humans to the rich Saudis.Nothing more than that.
***** I don't get why you hate these "runners". If you're in extreme poverty, you take any opportunity you can get. " It may be bad, but it can't be AS bad as my current situation " may be the mindset of people who take these jobs while still aware of the poor working conditions.
the majority of Italians is against immigration not because we are racist but for logistical reasons,in Italy 40% of the young population is unemployed, Vice does not say this!
@Vorraboms I'm proud of my country. So are millions of other people. People just just have to swallow a go screw themselves pill if being proud of your country is racist.🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 maths sucks though but how is it racist?
As a legal immigrant myself, the more I watch Vice the more I start to understand the far right. A thing that pisses me off is the fact that illegal immigrants hate the conditions they're living in their new country but then don't tell family back home that there is no point in illegally crossing the border. Additionally to this, I hate the attitude of 'I ran from somewhere so I deserve this.' No one deserves anything, you work for it. Let's be honest, entering a country without legal documentation, health records or employment/criminal history - do you really expect an employer to employe you? People need to start realising that controlling borders isn't 'racist' but beneficial to society as a whole. Do we really need more and more illegal immigrants sitting around doing nothing or legal immigrants who understand that nothing is given to them and integrate well into our society? Far left, take a moment to understand the far right. They might be too extreme and lack proper control but have good arguments at hand. I am disappointed to see how my country in Africa is fucking up and the people are fleeing instead of trying to fix things. Once I can, I will dedicate my life in helping this development. I'm tired of seeing my people having a victim mentality and treating western countries like 'gods'.
People who have 'liberal tendancies' hide their fascism better than anyone else. People should come down hard on the U.S.A. and the U.K., who have military adventures that cause multiplying outcomes. The 'liberal economics' of the 1980s was a criminal undertaking. But, is just called Liberal economics. So many of the crimes today have 'wash it off of your hands' names. 'Liberal economics' was a name for 'favourable tax letting-away-with'.
The families of the illegal migrants who drowned need to realize it's not Italy's fault. They need to do immigration legally and decently. I am a black Jamaican and I can see that this unceasing flow of illegal migration means disruption and disintegration of these host cities.
@JAchica11 I'm jamaica too with the sane sentiments. what's depressing about it all is that they tried to help these ungrateful people and just think how many students in Jamaica who would love to study in these European but can't even get a student's visa to do so and these so called refugees get free easy access into the EU
The policy to welcome these people that only wish death and destruction on their hosts is the work of elite politicians to destroy civilized societies.
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Italy is considered egregious and gracious among European countries. She should try migrating to Poland, Hungary or even worse , Russia and Belarus. Once she been to those other aforementioned countries and back to Italy, then she will realise that the Italians are quite hospitable people.
I said this before but y'all are forgetting they are mad at Italy because Italy is the first place they go in order to eventually get to Germany and england and Sweden
they blame Italy, who is in financial crisis. For boarding a 15x capacity boat when most can't even swim and capsizing. I say you open your home to strangers and give them money if you want to talk about the subject
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you fee should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
ThalamusMinimus You sir are a troll or ignorant. When Italians immigrated, they worked their asses off, building countries like USA, Argentina, Australia, Canada, Germany and so on, just like the Irish, English and other european countries. They brought civilization to the country where you are pissing over with your goddamn ignorance and stupidity. Saying that sicilians are africans? Sicilians like I am (and lives in Germany where I work 40 hours a week) are a huge mix of arabs, spanish, french, north europeans and so on, just like any other goddamn country in this goddamn planet. Even you have african blood or other "type", so suck it up and shut the fuck up.
Oh just to add... in the 1900s no one gave a fuck if italians or irish died during their trip towards USA or any other country (btw plenty of them died), they got treated like dirt but had the balls to create something.
Salil Darji What are your race, pig? Low debts nations like USA?Are you crazy? Italy is ruined?We built fucking civilization in fucking Europe, pig.
Africa and the Middle East need to fix their own problems in their own countries/continents. This is not an Italian problem but an African and Middle Eastern problem
Oh spare me the political correctness bullshit. What world would I live in; correct? Africans and Middle Eastern people, need to desperately address their own issues, before illegally immigrating to foreign countries. What world do you live in? Look at Germany and Europe as a whole, since considering them? You can't possibly tell me that no issues haven't occurred since accepting them.. (especially Germany)?
***** No they're not my problems. It is Europe's problem because they decided to accept them and their issues the immigrants take with them. I live in Australia, this is my country. There are problems in my own country, which only my country can sought out. The same needs to happen elsewhere; self-ownership and self-repair. Consider Rwanda in 1994. The EU and United Nations could not do anything to stop the genocide of Africans killing their own people! Fact!
Don't ask, if noone listens. Defend your home. You have a right to. Elected politicians are temporary, will you let their runaway illegal immigration policies destroy home?
The advocate saying these people have a right to live where they want is not true. There are laws and policies in every country for a reason or we will have chaos in the world. You migrate then follow the laws or dont come.
@@danieladugaro1551 They want to live in your living room, sleep in your bed, impregnate your daughters and eat from your fridge. You need to keep your job and go to work and leave them in your apartment where they can be glad you are at work; dread your coming home, wish you were dead but need you to keep paying the rent, your paying for the lights, and food.
@Twitter Stuff yes but in Africa they burning white ppl farms if they see white man on the street they call them devils that's happen to me in Zanzibar they kick me out of the store bcs i was white
I don't like this reporter. She is incredibly biased and portrays Europe as something it isn't. She should have kept to being a fashion reporter. This reporter did the same shit when she reported on the Romas of Europe. She is in no way a journalist and she should take a course in how to report unbiased. I'm sick and tired of her biased shit. VICE should be better than this.
I somewhat agree with you, I would like it if they showed the Policies that the EU/US/CN/RU have that made it necessary for these people to flee their own countries. I understand Syria has a civil war, what are the reasons why the civil war has gone on so long? Is Russia supporting the dictator and the US/EU supporting the rebels? We aren't being given the whole scope of the problem, just shown people fleeing from the problem.
Frede Fup She's just another commie propagandist that infiltrated Vice. It's amazing that Vice can't see this commie infilitration and propaganda for what it is.
It's Italy. The Italians worked hard to build it, it belongs to the Italians. The Italians are the only ones that have the right to decide what they want to do with it
Why doesn't the government just give them everything? If they wanted to work they would have stayed home. Europe is the welfare state. Why can't they provide for ME! I just want to bring my wives here and have a few dozen children, just like Africa.
TO EUROPE FROM ITALY :we are just the nearest european country to Africa and for that reason too many immigrants are coming here but we can't handle all of them not because we are monster or racist just because no one in europe is helping us,france,germany and UK are just ingnoring the immigrants problem in Italy ,Greece and Spain
BizzLeVrai You want to execute people who flee war torn nations and you call it invasion? Last time i checked invasion meant an armed force taking over a stretch of land. Neither is the case here. P.S. It's standard protocol to separate men and women unless they are related.
This is straight up upsetting. As Italians we do our best to welcome those people. We get it, you're coming from a poor country that's basically a war zone. We want to help you, we do, but we also want to protect our citizens. If you're a criminal your skin doesn't matter, you are no longer welcome.
Oh, thanks , I guess that's the real question and answer here, right ? Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Great. Can't wait for your in-depth video on how migrants are treated in Saudi, Qatar, Dubai, Russia and China. Or how heartless Japan is for not allowing refugees or migrants at all. Such drama queens. EUROPE IS NOT THAT BAD, VICE.
If this reporter had 300 migrants living in a camp beside her upscale home in the UK she'd be totally against it. Easy to criticize from her ivory tower
Japan accepts migrants and refugees but can't afford to accept a large number of them. Japan is the size of Montana state in the USA. Japan also have the law not to refuse a refugee if he /her life is in danger. For example, if a refugee is drowning in the sea, Japan coast guard/ ship must save him/her.
It is not that Japan does not accept refugees or migrants via proper channels. It is just that Japan is not that attractive to migrants as compared to Europe and North America. Migrants also take into consideration the language of their destination. European languages such as English, French and Spanish have more speakers ( from former colonies/protectorates) outside their linguistic origin country, while Japanese language has few speakers outside Japan. Due to language barrier, integrating into Western societies is easier than integrating into Japan. On top of that, Japan is so far away from so many places. It is at the eastern edge of the Eurasian landmass.
If my country were caught up in civil war, violence, genocide making my life hell I'd get the fuck out as well, so I can't blame them for wanting to come over to Europe. That said there are several things to consider. 1. Italy can't continue to deal with this situation all on its own, it should receive aid from the rest of the EU. 2. Having all people from unstable African countries move to Europe is not sustainable in the long term. 3. Many European countries are experiencing economic crises, and unemployment rates are extremely high. Shouldn't their countries act in the interest of their citizens as well? Also, although some of the immigrants' attitudes might come off as "ungrateful" it is in their own interest to protest their conditions. Being quiet and thankful for the little that is given might seem more polite, but it's not going to change the way they're living.
David Rockefeller What if the civil war is due to corrupt politicians trying to take each other out in order to gain more power? What if the civil war is between religious groups who want to wipe each other out? Why would I want to die for either side? To kill for either side? Should I just stay there and be caught in the crossfire, in the looting, raping and murdering that takes place when there's a war? Just because I was born there? No thanks. I'd rather be a coward. I'd rather pick the wars I want to fight, you're in no position to judge what other people should do.
frunchzz well those countries need a revolution. these young men fleeing their countries and leaving behind the girls, women, children, sick and elderly are supposed to be the lifeblood and backbone of their countries. they are supposed to rebel against their corrupt leaders just like in china and europe and many other places. that's right you are a coward but i guess that's just how it is
Typical, they expect houses and work , ridiculous that you can make demands on your host country for all those things that the citizens of Italy have no automatic right to.
The people leaving their countries should insist on fixing their own countries, just as EU countries have fixed their own. The United States had a war to make their country. Stay in your own land and fix the problems.
US government is causing their suffering you do realize that? Your politicians need to stay the f*ck out of other countries policies, economy, and wars. Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen. I encourage you to research the United States involvement in these countries.
I try to understand why you white people are so negative about people that are different from you I think at the end of the day it's just plain racist so now you know why so many millions of peoples around the world hate you white peoples with a passion
Sounds to be a "solution" but too many countries' LEADERS are full of egotistical pride, greed and "illegally, inhumanely" try to take control; Not that simple. Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well! "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
The people of Italy have my sympathy for having to deal with this situation. Hopefully they will find a way to turn back this tide of unwanted immigrants and expel the ones who have already arrived there.
And provide HOT water showers for anyone they feel should be headed for WORK ? I'm an extremely tan in the summer, German, Irish English female! i got awfully tired of those questions on job applications years ago that only offered, are you, red, white, black or whatever? Stop gathering stats on us for God 'sake! I used to cross them out and put My question of " Why is this a question?" in the margins, then write in "I AM TAN". HA HA. AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Any Idea How Many Wars There Has Been In The World Since The Second World War Up to About 1985 ? Gulf War 1&2 and Afganistan are by no means UNIQUE ! However I do not recall open borders anywhere. Open to the extent you would be met with DEADLY FORCE by Border Guards. That I have witnessed over sixty odd years since childhood !
You are so heartless, they don't want to leave their country but are forced out. If the West would leave them alone or stop destroying the earth this would not happen
The problem in a nutshell is that these people are in an overwhelming majority going to take from productive society. And in Europe, there is already a scary ratio of people who take vs people who produce. And it only gets dramatically worse with migration. Some of them work, sure. But as a whole it is a big minus to the real productivity. They will not change their culture, but if they ever get the right to vote they vote socialist, thus increasing the problem even more. Its a vicious circle because the number of productive people is decreasing....
You can't force a majority of local people to subscribe to the idea that illegal immigrants are welcome in their country, because they obviously are not. The compassionate thing to do is to prevent illegal immigrants from making the trip in the first place. The agenda of people who want more illegals to enter their country are often founded on the idea that they can derive more political power. Somehow in their brains they think it can be justified as compassionate when they are the source of the lies that bring these illegals to the country in the first place. Quit promising them jobs, welfare, sanctuary, free education, free healthcare, free everything.
They are all so ungrateful.. If their home countries were so bad that they'd risk life and limb for safety, and they have it provided to them for free once they arrive, at the tax payers expense, you'd think they'd show a little appreciation. And who are they to talk about Europe being one nation with no borders and demanding citizenship and freedom of travel/collection of benefits in the country willing to dole out the most. Absolutely preposterous.
Why don't they emigrate to their neighboring countries? Once the situation of their country is stabilized, they can easily go back to their way of life. Nobody wants to leave their country where they were born.
What video were you watching ? I didn't see "ungratefulness"...I saw tired, distraught, and they CAN'T FIX their government any more than the US can FIX their fake administration of gangsters importing illegals for their own gain and greedy agenda. Send the "ungrateful" away, and let people who WANT to work, actually get some hot water a bath and GO TO WORK ? Some aspects of this world, "can't be" fixed! Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well! "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
I'm not an Italian so it's not my country to either keep or to give away. But it's a beautiful country, and turning it into another third world sh*thole would sadden me greatly.
a lot of them doesnt understand that the ''permesso di soggiorno''(permit to stay) is valid for some time in italy (6 months - infinite depending if student or working) going outside italy is valid only for a max 2 months.. to find a job or attend schools you need residence(for legal reasons you cant give a job to someone who doesnt have a fixed residence).. do they really expect thet people will just give them everything they need?.. ive been living here in italy for almost 7 months now and im studying in a university. i have black friends and muslim friends and i can say . EVEN THEM ARE OFTEN SHOCKED ABOUT THIS KIND OF INCIDENTS. i mean you come hear and ask for help. but never FORCE to be HELPED. its not like italy is not helping them. YOU CANT JUST ACCEPT EVRYONE WHO KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR AND FEED THEM. i am not a racist at all but i would just suggest them to go back and start over in the country where they came from instead of living in a place they keep insulting and hating.
For the residence you need to have a home or rent a house with contract.. Application for a residence is obligatory here in Italy. If u are going to live here.but if you only have a permit to stay for tourist or any visa less than a year I don't think they will give you that.. Residence application = carta di identita (national I.d.)
I'm no racist, but.... Everything said, your solution "suggesting going back home" is the answer for all refugees to start a worthful life. If their home would be safe, offering chances to educate etc- THEN people wouldn't risk their lifes to come to europe. A place they don't like ,understand!! as long as we all don't understand that we have to improve situation of people in their home countries the situation for refugees as well as for greek,italian people won't become better. 1 winner will work against such "ideas"- the traffickers, criminal groups, this are the ones we have to judge, catch and bring them to court!!
@@benwsc6734 i understand your point clearly. The problem is a little bit complicated than you think. Some of them are coming from a stable life, come in illegally mixed with people escaping poverty and war. Some times you hear news that they are rioting because the government did not provide PC, AIRCON, AND CELLPHONES! I think those people are actually destroying the chances of people who really need help be helped. They are igniting some rage. So i think it's better to just filter them up and at least help them go back to their life instead of caging them to poverty. ( People risk their lives for better future..but if it's not working I hope at least they could live a normale life... Sometimes the dream of being "RICH" is killing people. And i find it so sad! )
They spend thousands of euro to seek prosperity in Europe!! Why not keep that money and make a better life for yourself in your own country? These people aren't poor and destitute!
Funny how they all coming here "wanting to become professional football players". One wonders why all those clubs still go scout for talent in Africa or elsewhere while there's all that talent packed together there in Italy. Those clubs should be setting up training camps on Lampedusa! They also got nice mountainbikes. To all those Italians who recently had their bike stolen: look no further. Vice news has found them!
the fucking shit is natuurlijk dat alsik van congo of syrie was ik mezelf ook al lang naar italie etc had laten smokkelen. ik moet er wel aan toe voegen dat dat in mijn geval niet zou zijn voor een voetbalcontract. ne schone mountainbike met een crappy hangslot daarentegen zou ik me wellicht wel toe-eigenen but that's me ofcourse... ;) .
Ho gast, ik ben ernstig voorstander van criminelen buiten houden en mensen die hier aankomen en dan ernstige criminele feiten plegen zonder pardon buiten te kegelen. Mensen die hier aankomen zonder papieren whatsoever is uiteraard verdacht, ik heb ernstige problemen met een aantal van die regularisaties die hier de voorbije decennia gebeurt zijn. maar, om verder te gaan op uw originele post waarin het ging over voetbalcontracten en fietsen stelen, er is ook nog een helft die daar inderdaad ernstige shit hebben meegemaakt en waar ik me kan in terugvinden. ik ga me daar niet voor verontschuldigen omdat daar ook klootzakken tussen zitten die proberen misbruik te plegen. En daar boven op, ik vind ook dat we economische vluchtelingen moeten weren en dat we moeten zien dat ons systeem niet overbelast geraakt maar dat verandert dus niks aan het feit dat als ik daar zou zitten ik ook zou proberen om hier te geraken. Prettige dag verder. :)
i honestly dont think that europe needs more low education immigrants or refugees especially with the eurocrisis. these people have no education and they will have a hard time finding work so the goverments have to pay for them and then they become a burden on the economy. honestly thats my opinion you might call me racist or elitist for even daring to say anything against immigration. but the fact is europe's economy isnt in good shape right now and bringing more people to pay for on the goverments and taxpayers expense certainly isnt going to help it.
@@TheEloim_ this is all part of the Globalists plan,the New World Order it's meant to create disharmony ,one religion ,one currency,one government read up on it everyone it's their for everyone to see
Why don't they deport the people who cannot find work? I cannot believe that people had a riot, and they were allowed to stay??? Italy has so many economic problems. How can they waste resources on foreigners where so many Italians are suffering?
+Garry Perkins. It,s the same in the USA. We welcome these worthless so called human beings. We waste all our tax dollars on them, and we got homeless veterans and other people living on the Street not knowing where their next meal will be coming from. And people losing job,s because of down sizing. And the US Government is worried about these poor sad worthless black and middle eastern so called refugees. I guess that is part of being politically correct.
+david fyre theseguyswithnew hats,beats headphones,cellphones seem really greedy and demanding seeing as how they show up on your doorstep and demand,DEMAND ENTRY TO YOUR HOUSE! Ridicilousness.they need to go back home and fight for their freedom like the country they are raping did and paid for in the past.these men have shed no blood for the freedom they demand
so 108 Million Euros a year? No wonder citizens are unhappy when that 108 Million could be used for social services and improving the country and its infrastructure.
I didn't think to be considered as a referee u needed to have no money, ! I was one I had money but I had to leave my country and save my life and very grateful for the opportunity I got here in UK and been paying taxes for decades now .
Oh, you would open that can of worms now wouldn't you ? YEP, how much are "we" supposed to have to "deal with?" Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
You are right. I knew a moroccan girl who came illegally in my home country. She paid 7000 euros. If her family could afford so much money, why take all this trouble.
When the Vietnamese people went to escape their communist country, you didn't see us bitching about how we don't instantly get citizenship, instead the Vietnamese learned to integrate, learned to speak, to work and to live peacefully
I am very socially liberal and I am all for equal treatment of every ethnicity, but watching all these random foreigners trying to settle Europe really isn't right. I don't care how worse off they are in their own countries. What Europe needs is educated intelligent people, not refugees from war torn and poverty run areas. I know they're in a tough situation, but Europe can barely handle it's own problems, let alone accepting people from around the world acting as a charity for poor people. I know I sound like a dumb conservative right now, but on that particular issue the conservative viewpoint is not that bad. Not at all. Europe should start acting more like Australia. It's pretty much impossible to get a visa to try live and work in Australia. Why? Because they only accept very intelligent and well educated people that they have a need for. That's why Australia right now is the best country in the world according to the Human Development Index. Highest wages, best standards of living etc. A strict immigration policy is not that bad actually.
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
How dare these people go to another country and then demand they have everything without working for anything. Do they really not know why people don't want them there and won't give them jobs. What about not biting the hand that feeds you?
Are you American or European? Tell the government to stop colonizing...stop trying to colonize African countries and Asian countries (specifically the Middle-East). Stop wasting money on bullshit wars..stop supporting politicians that are bought off by corporate elites. Africa has the highest economic growth rate and has loaned money to European countries. Massive infrastructure is being built in Africa...they are trying to get into the European welfare system. Take control over your government so countries don't have to deal with Europe/USA's bullshit. Yes I am from the US too.
These immigrants WANT to work; but the orange grove owners don't want them to have hot water to bathe in as they do, ? Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? I refuse to capitalize the word china except if its representative of one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well! "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
I have lost faith in the journalistic integrity of Charlet Duboc, ever since her piece on Big Cats of the Gulf. She basically hung her source out to dry. That, regardless of the validity of the piece.
As far as I am concerned, if you're an illegal immigrant and drown in a shoddy boat off the coast of a foreign nation - it is not that nation's responsibility that you died for your own reckless behaviour and self-endangerment.
Italy was built by Italians for Italians. I have no "right" to enter Italy, let alone become a citizen and Ward of the state demanding resources confiscated from Italian taxpayers. This is just insane. All these "migrants" need to work to improve THEIR OWN countries just like the Italians did in Italy or Swiss did in Switzerland.
I can’t understand why the Italian Government is to blame for this tragedy?!?! Fleeing your own country on a boat built for half of the amount of people who were on board, is not the fault of Italy, they knew it was a huge risk and yet they all got on the boat. My heart goes out to immigrants in these situations but these people chose to gamble with their lives and unfortunately 300+ lost that gamble. This is a one sided story, never telling the other side of the immigration crisis. It’s a very unfair story. Tragically these people died but it’s so unfair that the blame falls on Italian hands!!!
If they put as much effort into trying to improve things in their home country as they do in fighting deportation, their homeland would not be such a s**thole.
The sad part is that they don't immediatly send all the boats back to Africa like they should. Don't give these people the hope that they can go to Europe. They can't. If Jamal leaves to try to sneak into Europe and a month later he's back in his hometown, they'll know it won't work. The people smugglers make money from this false hope that they'll be allowed into Europe and get free money.
How are such desperately poor people able to pay smugglers thousands of dollars each?! Either they are not poor at all or some agency is giving them the money.
Even taking into consideration value of European currencies 100 or so years ago compared to those today, I doubt if it cost anything like thousands (in U.S. dollars?) for least costly tickets aboard a ship back then,even for a small family with children.
They are paid for by one of the most wanted man in the world, George Soros , a Hungarian-Jewish who escaped from the Nazis and now a billionaire wanted in several countries for subverting whole countries economies and providing monetary support for subversive organizations worldwide.
Many people have reported and looked at this kind of issue but no-one is making note of where these people are fleeing from. If those countries can't provide a fair lifestyle and working economy we should be taking them over and helping them build one NOT trying to give them somewhere to live. We fought for our way of life in our own countries so should they.
I don't want to give a judgement, but I would like to invite vice reporters to see what's the reality with uncontrolled illegal immigration. Anytime ready for confrontation.
They are. Doesn't mean every single person is in a good situation. Would you want to live in Ertirea as a young guy right now? If not, why force others to do so?
Italy needs to stop this horrendous situation by not allowing disembarkation. They will ADD NOTHING, only stress that nation to the breaking point which will lead to ultra-violence.
I get soo sick of Vice's obvious bias in these videos. Jeez. My grandmother moved to the US from Germany after WW2 because she had nothing to go back to; her entire hometown was bombed flat. That being said, I've never met anyone that was against illegal immigration as much as her. Back when she moved here, she had to agree to NEVER go on welfare, she had to learn english from scratch, and had to work hard to follow the rules and immigrate the legal way. Now the small town that she and my grandpa raised my mother in is completely overrun by illegals, the town is NOTHING like it used to be. It's just another little Mexico now. Everything is in Spanish, the county had to build a brand new human services builing to accommodate all the new arrivals for their welfare. This isn't in California or Texas or some border state, nope, this is in middle of nowhere in southern Minnesota. It's just kind of sad. But I digress... My opinion is that when you keep letting in illegals, their numbers just keep increasing exponentially. And that seems to be the case in Europe. There is just too many of them! And Vice seems to report these same things over and over - whatever group of people are living in horrible conditions and the government is doing nothing about it. So what IS the government supposed to do? Give them an apartment, all the food they want, healthcare, and whatever else they need. Then what is their motivation to better themselves? Even if they want to work it's not like there are many jobs available for them - it sounds like there aren't enough for the citizens. When do we stop accepting EVERYONE and say enough is enough, it's time to focus our little resources on the people we already have? These African countries have to get their act together and take care of their own citizens eventually. Colonialism can only be blamed for so long. I'm sure some idiot will label me a racist or some shit, but honestly I'm NOT anti immigration. If it wasn't for others going to new countries, I wouldn't be here! So that's not what I'm arguing. The bottom line is I get so sick of people going somewhere illegally with absolutely no plan, and then get upset that they don't have the exact same standard of living that the others in that country do. It's something that needs to be worked for - not something that's handed to you. ...just my 2 cents
Well the reason her apartment was bombed flat is because her people invaded Poland, France and a bunch of other countries in a manner much worse than what Africans are doing. It's important to remember that even though illegal immigratione should be dealt with it's wrong to colonize other people(I'm talking about the future which I hope will not be filled with the fourth reich. Most Germans are undercover Nazis nowadays.)
Arcturus Dunhelm Thanks. I have pride in myself and where I come from and want to see it continue...it's so sad to see our heritage completely lost in the population today.
anna sara The point is I'm concerned about Germany creating the 4th reich. Yes, you read it right. And I think that is more dangrous to all the European states more than illegal immigration(which they can can combat if they understand everything has a limit which should not be crossed).
You're right, of course. I honestly agree with everything you said. I don't know of anything I alone can do that will stop them. Fuck, since I'm physically unable to have children, I can't even do that small part. Initially I wrote my comment to vent about the video. It was just frustrating to watch all these Africans complain about the government not helping them. What were they expecting to happen? Thanks for giving me some other things to consider st least.
Yes but that only applies to sheep and cattle Kye. Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well! "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
What is happening to these poor people is NOT the Italians' fault. It is their countries that are messed up in the first place. Europeans have been doing their best, and look at how they are treated back. Have you got better solutions to house these millions of people ? Maybe we should give them appartements in central Rome, or on Avenue Foch in Paris ?? They are already given basic facilities, that's a fair start no ?
23:10 minutes into video = the man who housed 40 young African men had a mini riot on his hands. All the men (in their twenties) were all muscular and tall. I can't imagine they came from a famine or war. I smell BS
When people travel they want to see Italy, or France or Switzerland, if they wanted to see Somalis or Africans they would go to those countries, this epidemic needs to stop.
People say that they want a job, but do they really want to work? Or do they want a hand out? People who work are accepted almost anywhere, whether there legally or illegally.
25:30 I'm sorry I'm Japanese and got married to Italian, and it took me almost 9 MONTHS to get the permesso soggiorno (permission of stay). So please shut your mouth. My partner had to spend around €4000 for the language school and for the student visa so I could stay here legally while I was waiting for the Visa. We also had to (and have to) pay for the place to stay, food, bills and the lawyer. They don't deserve to be in this beautiful and welcoming country if they can't appreciate what they get for FREE. And Vice, I don't like fairly tales, I like documentaries. I'm very disappointed.
2 things come to mind after watching this. 1: The refugess are grossly mislead by the smugglers, by the somewhat truth that you get free education, free hospitals, jobs, money if you are unemployed. Overall a better life. Comparing that to the living standards of the most of Asia and Africa countries, it is much more desireable, of course. But all of this is only achieveable if you are a citizen of EU, which is hard to obtain these days. 2: A genuine, and somewhat justified fear from the EU countries that is if immigration isn´t controlled, as to a level where public offices can keep up, refugess will just roam around never contributing to society in any way. Sorting to the only means left to survive, crime. I also believe the reason why people are reluctant to accept these refugees into their way of life, is the massive culture gap, and the masses of uneducated potential workforce. It is a fact that manual and/or uneducated labor demands is decreasing, meaning they would have to offered extensive education, but firstly after the language barrier is overcome. It is a massive task, that is upon the Eu, and i am not sure EU is up to it. Only time will tell.
I hate to state the obvious, but this whole problem would be solved if Italy turned these boats back. Why aren't they doing that? Other countries have, because it's important to set a precedent that illegal immigration isn't tolerated. And the migrants in the video don't seem grateful AT ALL for what Italy has given them. VICE shouldn't act so sympathetic.
It's sickening, all this death. I'm from Europe and the issue I have is, I don't want to pay for wave of people. If the country of origin was forced to subsidise the refugees I think that would reduce the native complaint.
Funny, I've been giving my tithe (ten percent) of my income to street people who aren't carrying a liquor bottle, since I was eighteen!! I content that big families with no jobs and no dependable heads of households needs to adapt some of china's rules ? Might be the only thing they do right anymore...limited to two children per household ? Duh. Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? I refuse to capitalize the word china except if its representative of one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well! "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Help me out on this if I'm wrong but exactly which group of immigrants throughout history has ever had a job, good housing and great circumstances awaiting them on arrival? When my great grandparents came to the US, legally, from Italy they had no money, no support, didn't speak the language and were the lowest of the low. Today the mentality seems to be one of entitlement whether it's the US or Europe. I think these people believe they're owed something just because they show up. Africans seem a lot like blacks here in the US, "give me" because I want it. Colonialism is long over and African governments have had more than enough time to pull things together but they can't. Whenever given a chance to succeed African countries never do. If white people are so bad and exploitive why do these people desperately want to escape their own people and go to former colonial powers full of white people that they say were so abusive to them? The new demon around the world is the white race, we've just screwed everyone everywhere yet everyone who's not white wants to live in the countries we've built, benefit from our education systems, be given our money and live among us.
How do you know that the refugees think that whites are abusive? You're throwing a whole bunch of people into one pot and think they all agree. Plenty of African countries have succeeded economically and there's less dictators than in the past. Nigeria, South America, Ethiopia, Rwanda, etc.
She called the boat going down "inhuman" but never went back to explain how. By calling it "inhuman" and framing it as the government's fault your suggesting the boat sank due to direct action or policy of the government. So why is this not covered or explained? And if it just sank due to accident why use a word like inhuman to describe it? This isn't a complaint or opinion on the topic just noticing the misleading language use in the coverage of the topic.
Because their goal is to get views , not solve the problem for us ? Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?) AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?" hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ? She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ? I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well! "God Gave them One More Day!" and "I Ain't no Middleman" FredGold&LyndaFaye.
6:03 I know that she had lost a loved on, but that it no excuse to blame the hosts. The Italians are not responsible for the drowning. That lady should be grateful that the Italians had the compassion to organize a memorial for the deceased.
13:15- "Helping people is beautiful. That's what God wants, you know? God, up there." Sorry sir. God is not real. If your god inspires you to go out & help people, great. But that will not change the fact that your god does not exist.
John Smith you do realize that man will never ever ever see your stupid comment don't you? I'm guessing you're not really interested in helping him, you just like the sound of your own high pitched girly voice.
Time has passed and yesterday, October 7th 2016, over 7 thousand invaders flopped into the sea near Libya and were promptly picked up by the Spanish, French and Portuguese navies who then tried to dump them off at Sardinia in Italy. They were told sorry, no room we are already at over capacity here so they all ended up sleeping on the ships that rescued them. All this while Italians are in a desperate struggle to find work for themselves, feed their own families and educate their children, this lot arrive and demand, demand mind you, whatever is on tap and think it's theirs for the taking? In time they will be required to comprehend Italy is no dumping ground for the those who cannot figure it out for themselves, not a country to illegally crash into and certainly no nation where they can arrive like beggars and tell those who have put this country together what they want and when they want it. Also, why are these girlie men romping through the streets of Italy, how come they didn't stay and fight the tin pot dictators in their own country, were they having their period? Basta!
"They have a right to live where they want." But do they? Is there a legal precedent that states that an individual's desire to live in a certain country supersedes the laws of that country? You might argue some case of a "natural" law, but what does international law state? Can a country be forced to accept immigrants that it cannot support? What about the rights of the citizens of the home country?
Take in a thousand, take in ten thousand, take in a million... There will still be a billion more! Also beware for every million that enter the less European your nation becomes.
Go Italy! It's okay and even admirable to stand up for your right, your culture and your country. As far as I know Italy doesn't owe any other country anything, and certainly can decide for their own whether or not to share their culture and resources.
Stay strong italians, as a us citizen I must admit that italy is handling the immagration situation worlds better then we do in the us. We offer these people benefits and give them rights... I wish we could send all these unreal people who wish to home these immagrants to an island so i can watch immigration ruin there island... take a look at how aggresive these people are being and how they mention they have no benefits... and you expected them?
It's the obvious stance they took about the issue. Journalists are supposed to be unbiased, and this is the most biased one sided report I've ever seen.
why do they think Italy owes them anything? they didn't invite them,they didn't know they were there! why do these ppl have such a sense of entitlement? why is it Italy's problem? Italy's in human? because a refugee boat capsized in the dark,sneeking through the water?
Garry Perkins problem IS,that if we drop them in Libya,Probably we would get a Fine by the UN,or even by the NATO,and after that all italians would be "Nazis",That,is the problem,and,We have a left-wing party President,and...you know...
IDX GREEN® The fine would be from the EU, not NATO (NATO does not do fines, or moralizing). The UN does not matter. It is just a corrupt bunch of worthless thugs in NYC. NATO does criticize Italy for mis-spending on defense (actually true), but they would not criticize Italy for protecting its borders. The EU might squeal, but who cares? If the EU wants to complain, then they should formulate a policy. Until then, Italy needs to stop picking these people up and dropping them off in Italy. They should be dropped off back in Africa, where they belong.
and this shit keeps on going and going, saving these people will only hurt Italia and its people, Portugal and Spain is with you Italia! Fratelli mediterranei
It's freaking ridiculous how people expect Italy to hand out citizenship for free.
Many people work hard to get a citizenship in Italy after immigrating legally, and somehow people who made the wrong call to take the path of dangerous illegal entry is to be awarded citizenship because they came unsafely?
How is that ever fair for the people who abide law and work hard?
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, etc are all rich countries. They need to start taking in more refugees.
***** True. I think they could easily handle at least 100,000 refugees each, and still have enough money left to build their huge buildings and stadiums and artificial islands.
Lol they wont.They've got enough Indians,Pakistanis and Bangladeshis to take care of.
Shahnawaz Khan UAE will never let their slave workers into the country on a permanent basis.They work very cheap, and when they are tired or sick or old they must leave to go back to whatever place they came from.They are disposable humans to the rich Saudis.Nothing more than that.
***** I don't get why you hate these "runners". If you're in extreme poverty, you take any opportunity you can get. " It may be bad, but it can't be AS bad as my current situation " may be the mindset of people who take these jobs while still aware of the poor working conditions.
They have already taken in (or enslaved) many.
the majority of Italians is against immigration not because we are racist but for logistical reasons,in Italy 40% of the young population is unemployed, Vice does not say this!
@attovishnu you make work only if you have Money to create a industry
Love how it isn't racist if Italy are doing it 🤣
Of course not.
VICE is the Voice of Illegal Clandestine Emigrants
@Vorraboms I'm proud of my country. So are millions of other people. People just just have to swallow a go screw themselves pill if being proud of your country is racist.🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 maths sucks though but how is it racist?
ITALIANS ARE AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE. LET US TELL THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU ARE RACIST. REPENT OF YOUR RACISM AND TURN YOUR LIFE OVER TO CHRIST.
As a legal immigrant myself, the more I watch Vice the more I start to understand the far right.
A thing that pisses me off is the fact that illegal immigrants hate the conditions they're living in their new country but then don't tell family back home that there is no point in illegally crossing the border.
Additionally to this, I hate the attitude of 'I ran from somewhere so I deserve this.'
No one deserves anything, you work for it.
Let's be honest, entering a country without legal documentation, health records or employment/criminal history - do you really expect an employer to employe you?
People need to start realising that controlling borders isn't 'racist' but beneficial to society as a whole.
Do we really need more and more illegal immigrants sitting around doing nothing or legal immigrants who understand that nothing is given to them and integrate well into our society?
Far left, take a moment to understand the far right. They might be too extreme and lack proper control but have good arguments at hand.
I am disappointed to see how my country in Africa is fucking up and the people are fleeing instead of trying to fix things. Once I can, I will dedicate my life in helping this development.
I'm tired of seeing my people having a victim mentality and treating western countries like 'gods'.
People who have 'liberal tendancies' hide their fascism better than anyone else. People should come down hard on the U.S.A. and the U.K., who have military adventures that cause multiplying outcomes. The 'liberal economics' of the 1980s was a criminal undertaking. But, is just called Liberal economics.
So many of the crimes today have 'wash it off of your hands' names. 'Liberal economics' was a name for 'favourable tax letting-away-with'.
The families of the illegal migrants who drowned need to realize it's not Italy's fault. They need to do immigration legally and decently. I am a black Jamaican and I can see that this unceasing flow of illegal migration means disruption and disintegration of these host cities.
+JAchica11 Exactly my thoughts! How was that Italy's fault?? These people are have lost the ability to think, by blindly following their religion...
JAchica11 Thank you for being rational, I wish there are more and more people like you in these days..
jachica may ja bless you. at least there are some people who see the truth left
@JAchica11 I'm jamaica too with the sane sentiments. what's depressing about it all is that they tried to help these ungrateful people and just think how many students in Jamaica who would love to study in these European but can't even get a student's visa to do so and these so called refugees get free easy access into the EU
The policy to welcome these people that only wish death and destruction on their hosts is the work of elite politicians to destroy civilized societies.
"There's no humanity in Italy!" cries the woman even though Italy has taken in thousands upon thousands refugees...
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Italy is considered egregious and gracious among European countries. She should try migrating to Poland, Hungary or even worse , Russia and Belarus. Once she been to those other aforementioned countries and back to Italy, then she will realise that the Italians are quite hospitable people.
I said this before but y'all are forgetting they are mad at Italy because Italy is the first place they go in order to eventually get to Germany and england and Sweden
they blame Italy, who is in financial crisis. For boarding a 15x capacity boat when most can't even swim and capsizing. I say you open your home to strangers and give them money if you want to talk about the subject
This so true , This the Government Decision, The are Idiot
and they pay huge amounts of cash to people smugglers
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you fee should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Why should any country carry the burden of another? Fix your own country and stop running from your problems.
That is the most ignorant post I have ever read. You need a serious lesson on anthropology.
ThalamusMinimus You sir are a troll or ignorant.
When Italians immigrated, they worked their asses off, building countries like USA, Argentina, Australia, Canada, Germany and so on, just like the Irish, English and other european countries. They brought civilization to the country where you are pissing over with your goddamn ignorance and stupidity.
Saying that sicilians are africans? Sicilians like I am (and lives in Germany where I work 40 hours a week) are a huge mix of arabs, spanish, french, north europeans and so on, just like any other goddamn country in this goddamn planet. Even you have african blood or other "type", so suck it up and shut the fuck up.
Oh just to add... in the 1900s no one gave a fuck if italians or irish died during their trip towards USA or any other country (btw plenty of them died), they got treated like dirt but had the balls to create something.
*****
Typical keyboard warrior.
Salil Darji
What are your race, pig?
Low debts nations like USA?Are you crazy?
Italy is ruined?We built fucking civilization in fucking Europe, pig.
Africa and the Middle East need to fix their own problems in their own countries/continents. This is not an Italian problem but an African and Middle Eastern problem
Oh spare me the political correctness bullshit. What world would I live in; correct? Africans and Middle Eastern people, need to desperately address their own issues, before illegally immigrating to foreign countries. What world do you live in? Look at Germany and Europe as a whole, since considering them? You can't possibly tell me that no issues haven't occurred since accepting them.. (especially Germany)?
***** No they're not my problems. It is Europe's problem because they decided to accept them and their issues the immigrants take with them. I live in Australia, this is my country. There are problems in my own country, which only my country can sought out. The same needs to happen elsewhere; self-ownership and self-repair. Consider Rwanda in 1994. The EU and United Nations could not do anything to stop the genocide of Africans killing their own people! Fact!
U guys caused the problem h fix it
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did Italy colonize any countries in Africa? If yes, then it’s your problem
if you don't like Italy, LEAVE ITALY. STOP TRASHING MY HOME
Don't ask, if noone listens. Defend your home. You have a right to.
Elected politicians are temporary, will you let their runaway illegal immigration policies destroy home?
The advocate saying these people have a right to live where they want is not true. There are laws and policies in every country for a reason or we will have chaos in the world. You migrate then follow the laws or dont come.
@@danieladugaro1551 They want to live in your living room, sleep in your bed, impregnate your daughters and eat from your fridge. You need to keep your job and go to work and leave them in your apartment where they can be glad you are at work; dread your coming home, wish you were dead but need you to keep paying the rent, your paying for the lights, and food.
@Twitter Stuff ofc why not ?
@Twitter Stuff yes but in Africa they burning white ppl farms if they see white man on the street they call them devils that's happen to me in Zanzibar they kick me out of the store bcs i was white
I don't like this reporter. She is incredibly biased and portrays Europe as something it isn't. She should have kept to being a fashion reporter.
This reporter did the same shit when she reported on the Romas of Europe. She is in no way a journalist and she should take a course in how to report unbiased. I'm sick and tired of her biased shit. VICE should be better than this.
I somewhat agree with you, I would like it if they showed the Policies that the EU/US/CN/RU have that made it necessary for these people to flee their own countries. I understand Syria has a civil war, what are the reasons why the civil war has gone on so long? Is Russia supporting the dictator and the US/EU supporting the rebels? We aren't being given the whole scope of the problem, just shown people fleeing from the problem.
She did the same thing with the Brazil story too.
Milene Larsson is a good reporter, she also did some migrant documentaries.
Frede Fup waaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaah
Frede Fup She's just another commie propagandist that infiltrated Vice. It's amazing that Vice can't see this commie infilitration and propaganda for what it is.
It's Italy. The Italians worked hard to build it, it belongs to the Italians. The Italians are the only ones that have the right to decide what they want to do with it
Lol.... nope not the Italians of today ... Italians of hundreds of years ago
@@mrmeenee2788 they are still Italian decent smh
@@mrmeenee2788 What's your descent, Mr Bigshot?
They thought they will just arrive in Europe and then happy days? These people should know the word "BILLS" every month.
Why doesn't the government just give them everything? If they wanted to work they would have stayed home.
Europe is the welfare state. Why can't they provide for ME! I just want to bring my wives here and have a few dozen children, just like Africa.
TO EUROPE FROM ITALY :we are just the nearest european country to Africa and for that reason
too many immigrants are coming here but we can't handle all of them not
because we are monster or racist just because no one in europe is helping
us,france,germany and UK are just ingnoring the immigrants problem in
Italy ,Greece and Spain
+XVII Stormo Incursori Living in Greece, I know exaclty what are you talking about..
+Juansitinho It's not just a German or an Italian problem, this is a problem for all of Europe. We must all work together to stop the refugees.
Edit: "refugees"
I am from Spain and I know what you mean.
+Juansitinho Germany has not the same amount of ILEGAL immigrants (not talking about legal immigrants) this countries have.
it is not immigration
it is an invasion.
They should open fire when an unidentified boat cross the Italian water.
BizzLeVrai Opening fire on unarmed civilians, men, women and little children?
Have you completely lost your mind?
TheIcelandicPatriot I dont see many woman in those boat. And an invasion force dont need to have rifle.
BizzLeVrai You want to execute people who flee war torn nations and you call it invasion?
Last time i checked invasion meant an armed force taking over a stretch of land. Neither is the case here.
P.S. It's standard protocol to separate men and women unless they are related.
TheIcelandicPatriot if it is war in your country will you fix it or give your problem to other country ?
TheIcelandicPatriot Imagine I take all the people of all the country in war and I put them in your country. how it will turn out?
Good on those Italians. Don't let your country become infested by people who don't contribue. Fight the good fight
The 'White guilt card' was very well played Vice!
you can't blame italians
it's our problem if you are goning to risk your life then risk it for making your country better
This is straight up upsetting. As Italians we do our best to welcome those people. We get it, you're coming from a poor country that's basically a war zone. We want to help you, we do, but we also want to protect our citizens. If you're a criminal your skin doesn't matter, you are no longer welcome.
Italy can do whatever it wants with it's own border. What's wrong with controlling who comes in to your country?
Oh, thanks , I guess that's the real question and answer here, right ?
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Great. Can't wait for your in-depth video on how migrants are treated in Saudi, Qatar, Dubai, Russia and China.
Or how heartless Japan is for not allowing refugees or migrants at all.
Such drama queens. EUROPE IS NOT THAT BAD, VICE.
If this reporter had 300 migrants living in a camp beside her upscale home in the UK she'd be totally against it. Easy to criticize from her ivory tower
Japan accepts migrants and refugees but can't afford to accept a large number of them. Japan is the size of Montana state in the USA. Japan also have the law not to refuse a refugee if he /her life is in danger. For example, if a refugee is drowning in the sea, Japan coast guard/ ship must save him/her.
They have videos all about that. This video happens NOT to be about that. Don't act like there's a problem when there isn't.
Or better yet. All the neighboring countries in Africa where refugees supposed to go, not European countries.
It is not that Japan does not accept refugees or migrants via proper channels. It is just that Japan is not that attractive to migrants as compared to Europe and North America. Migrants also take into consideration the language of their destination. European languages such as English, French and Spanish have more speakers ( from former colonies/protectorates) outside their linguistic origin country, while Japanese language has few speakers outside Japan. Due to language barrier, integrating into Western societies is easier than integrating into Japan. On top of that, Japan is so far away from so many places. It is at the eastern edge of the Eurasian landmass.
If my country were caught up in civil war, violence, genocide making my life hell I'd get the fuck out as well, so I can't blame them for wanting to come over to Europe. That said there are several things to consider.
1. Italy can't continue to deal with this situation all on its own, it should receive aid from the rest of the EU.
2. Having all people from unstable African countries move to Europe is not sustainable in the long term.
3. Many European countries are experiencing economic crises, and unemployment rates are extremely high. Shouldn't their countries act in the interest of their citizens as well?
Also, although some of the immigrants' attitudes might come off as "ungrateful" it is in their own interest to protest their conditions. Being quiet and thankful for the little that is given might seem more polite, but it's not going to change the way they're living.
Well We "Northern states" (Germany) get most of your immigrants^^
David Rockefeller ...What??
David Rockefeller What if the civil war is due to corrupt politicians trying to take each other out in order to gain more power? What if the civil war is between religious groups who want to wipe each other out? Why would I want to die for either side? To kill for either side? Should I just stay there and be caught in the crossfire, in the looting, raping and murdering that takes place when there's a war? Just because I was born there? No thanks. I'd rather be a coward. I'd rather pick the wars I want to fight, you're in no position to judge what other people should do.
Thank you for a balanced comment for once. It's nice to see someone isn't a racist shithead.
frunchzz well those countries need a revolution. these young men fleeing their countries and leaving behind the girls, women, children, sick and elderly are supposed to be the lifeblood and backbone of their countries. they are supposed to rebel against their corrupt leaders just like in china and europe and many other places. that's right you are a coward but i guess that's just how it is
They should translate this into all the African languages and play it for them. Save them trouble of trying to migrate.
Typical, they expect houses and work , ridiculous that you can make demands on your host country for all those things that the citizens of Italy have no automatic right to.
Same in UK 🤬🤬🤬🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The people leaving their countries should insist on fixing their own countries, just as EU countries have fixed their own. The United States had a war to make their country. Stay in your own land and fix the problems.
US government is causing their suffering you do realize that? Your politicians need to stay the f*ck out of other countries policies, economy, and wars.
Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen. I encourage you to research the United States involvement in these countries.
Do you understand with out foreign aid that america gives them they wouldn't even have anything lel
I try to understand why you white people are so negative about people that are different from you I think at the end of the day it's just plain racist so now you know why so many millions of peoples around the world hate you white peoples with a passion
Sounds to be a "solution" but too many countries' LEADERS are full of egotistical pride, greed and "illegally, inhumanely" try to take control;
Not that simple.
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well!
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
The people of Italy have my sympathy for having to deal with this situation. Hopefully they will find a way to turn back this tide of unwanted immigrants and expel the ones who have already arrived there.
And provide HOT water showers for anyone they feel should be headed for WORK ?
I'm an extremely tan in the summer, German, Irish English female! i got awfully tired of those questions on job applications years ago that only offered, are you, red, white, black or whatever? Stop gathering stats on us for God 'sake! I used to cross them out and put My question of " Why is this a question?" in the margins, then write in "I AM TAN". HA HA.
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Any Idea How Many Wars There Has Been In The World Since The Second World War Up to About 1985 ?
Gulf War 1&2 and Afganistan are by no means UNIQUE ! However I do not recall open borders anywhere. Open to the extent you would be met with DEADLY FORCE by Border Guards.
That I have witnessed over sixty odd years since childhood !
You are so heartless, they don't want to leave their country but are forced out. If the West would leave them alone or stop destroying the earth this would not happen
The problem in a nutshell is that these people are in an overwhelming majority going to take from productive society. And in Europe, there is already a scary ratio of people who take vs people who produce. And it only gets dramatically worse with migration. Some of them work, sure. But as a whole it is a big minus to the real productivity. They will not change their culture, but if they ever get the right to vote they vote socialist, thus increasing the problem even more. Its a vicious circle because the number of productive people is decreasing....
True. They just demand. Breed and fight. Don’t want them here
You can't force a majority of local people to subscribe to the idea that illegal immigrants are welcome in their country, because they obviously are not. The compassionate thing to do is to prevent illegal immigrants from making the trip in the first place. The agenda of people who want more illegals to enter their country are often founded on the idea that they can derive more political power. Somehow in their brains they think it can be justified as compassionate when they are the source of the lies that bring these illegals to the country in the first place. Quit promising them jobs, welfare, sanctuary, free education, free healthcare, free everything.
They are all so ungrateful.. If their home countries were so bad that they'd risk life and limb for safety, and they have it provided to them for free once they arrive, at the tax payers expense, you'd think they'd show a little appreciation. And who are they to talk about Europe being one nation with no borders and demanding citizenship and freedom of travel/collection of benefits in the country willing to dole out the most. Absolutely preposterous.
Why don't they emigrate to their neighboring countries? Once the situation of their country is stabilized, they can easily go back to their way of life. Nobody wants to leave their country where they were born.
What video were you watching ? I didn't see "ungratefulness"...I saw tired, distraught, and they CAN'T FIX their government any more than the US can FIX their fake administration of gangsters importing illegals for their own gain and greedy agenda. Send the "ungrateful" away, and let people who WANT to work, actually get some hot water a bath and GO TO WORK ? Some aspects of this world, "can't be" fixed!
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well!
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
I'm not an Italian so it's not my country to either keep or to give away. But it's a beautiful country, and turning it into another third world sh*thole would sadden me greatly.
That is all they know
My country is already another "Third World Shithole"
my first few steps were in italy too..
and for that im more than grateful..
italians treated me better than my own family would..
a lot of them doesnt understand that the ''permesso di soggiorno''(permit to stay) is valid for some time in italy (6 months - infinite depending if student or working) going outside italy is valid only for a max 2 months.. to find a job or attend schools you need residence(for legal reasons you cant give a job to someone who doesnt have a fixed residence).. do they really expect thet people will just give them everything they need?.. ive been living here in italy for almost 7 months now and im studying in a university. i have black friends and muslim friends and i can say . EVEN THEM ARE OFTEN SHOCKED ABOUT THIS KIND OF INCIDENTS. i mean you come hear and ask for help. but never FORCE to be HELPED. its not like italy is not helping them. YOU CANT JUST ACCEPT EVRYONE WHO KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR AND FEED THEM. i am not a racist at all but i would just suggest them to go back and start over in the country where they came from instead of living in a place they keep insulting and hating.
Matthew T if you want to get a permit to stay or a residence? Where are you From?
For the residence you need to have a home or rent a house with contract.. Application for a residence is obligatory here in Italy. If u are going to live here.but if you only have a permit to stay for tourist or any visa less than a year I don't think they will give you that.. Residence application = carta di identita (national I.d.)
Yeah they expect to geht everything for free. That's the Problem. They are absolute greedy.
I'm no racist, but....
Everything said, your solution "suggesting going back home" is the answer for all refugees to start a worthful life.
If their home would be safe, offering chances to educate etc- THEN people wouldn't risk their lifes to come to europe. A place they don't like ,understand!! as long as we all don't understand that we have to improve situation of people in their home countries the situation for refugees as well as for greek,italian people won't become better.
1 winner will work against such "ideas"- the traffickers, criminal groups, this are the ones we have to judge, catch and bring them to court!!
@@benwsc6734 i understand your point clearly. The problem is a little bit complicated than you think. Some of them are coming from a stable life, come in illegally mixed with people escaping poverty and war. Some times you hear news that they are rioting because the government did not provide PC, AIRCON, AND CELLPHONES!
I think those people are actually destroying the chances of people who really need help be helped.
They are igniting some rage. So i think it's better to just filter them up and at least help them go back to their life instead of caging them to poverty. ( People risk their lives for better future..but if it's not working I hope at least they could live a normale life... Sometimes the dream of being "RICH" is killing people. And i find it so sad! )
Easy. Close the borders.
They spend thousands of euro to seek prosperity in Europe!! Why not keep that money and make a better life for yourself in your own country?
These people aren't poor and destitute!
Funny how they all coming here "wanting to become professional football players". One wonders why all those clubs still go scout for talent in Africa or elsewhere while there's all that talent packed together there in Italy. Those clubs should be setting up training camps on Lampedusa! They also got nice mountainbikes. To all those Italians who recently had their bike stolen: look no further. Vice news has found them!
You can also read the confusion on the faces of those migrants when they get off the boat: "Why is there no Bentley with a driver awaiting me here???"
the fucking shit is natuurlijk dat alsik van congo of syrie was ik mezelf ook al lang naar italie etc had laten smokkelen. ik moet er wel aan toe voegen dat dat in mijn geval niet zou zijn voor een voetbalcontract. ne schone mountainbike met een crappy hangslot daarentegen zou ik me wellicht wel toe-eigenen but that's me ofcourse... ;) .
Ho gast, ik ben ernstig voorstander van criminelen buiten houden en mensen die hier aankomen en dan ernstige criminele feiten plegen zonder pardon buiten te kegelen.
Mensen die hier aankomen zonder papieren whatsoever is uiteraard verdacht, ik heb ernstige problemen met een aantal van die regularisaties die hier de voorbije decennia gebeurt zijn.
maar, om verder te gaan op uw originele post waarin het ging over voetbalcontracten en fietsen stelen, er is ook nog een helft die daar inderdaad ernstige shit hebben meegemaakt en waar ik me kan in terugvinden.
ik ga me daar niet voor verontschuldigen omdat daar ook klootzakken tussen zitten die proberen misbruik te plegen.
En daar boven op, ik vind ook dat we economische vluchtelingen moeten weren en dat we moeten zien dat ons systeem niet overbelast geraakt maar dat verandert dus niks aan het feit dat als ik daar zou zitten ik ook zou proberen om hier te geraken.
Prettige dag verder. :)
That is racist my dude... Hope you aren't racist now in 2021
@@waterbottlefilms6563 what you gonna do if he is even now?
instead of moving to a new country, why don't they try to improve their own situation in their own country?
They can't.
They can't, otherwise they wouldn't have left in the first place.
Vice news should know better then to show the country as the cause of the disaster. Italy did not initiate this tragedy.
i honestly dont think that europe needs more low education immigrants or refugees especially with the eurocrisis. these people have no education and they will have a hard time finding work so the goverments have to pay for them and then they become a burden on the economy. honestly thats my opinion you might call me racist or elitist for even daring to say anything against immigration. but the fact is europe's economy isnt in good shape right now and bringing more people to pay for on the goverments and taxpayers expense certainly isnt going to help it.
svfin i understand your point .
@@TheEloim_ this is all part of the Globalists plan,the New World Order it's meant to create disharmony ,one religion ,one currency,one government read up on it everyone it's their for everyone to see
@@leemckenna7651 I'll look. Thanks
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Why don't they deport the people who cannot find work? I cannot believe that people had a riot, and they were allowed to stay???
Italy has so many economic problems. How can they waste resources on foreigners where so many Italians are suffering?
+Garry Perkins. It,s the same in the USA. We welcome these worthless so called human beings. We waste all our tax dollars on them, and we got homeless veterans and other people living on the Street not knowing where their next meal will be coming from. And people losing job,s because of down sizing. And the US Government is worried about these poor sad worthless black and middle eastern so called refugees. I guess that is part of being politically correct.
+david fyre theseguyswithnew hats,beats headphones,cellphones seem really greedy and demanding seeing as how they show up on your doorstep and demand,DEMAND ENTRY TO YOUR HOUSE! Ridicilousness.they need to go back home and fight for their freedom like the country they are raping did and paid for in the past.these men have shed no blood for the freedom they demand
so 108 Million Euros a year? No wonder citizens are unhappy when that 108 Million could be used for social services and improving the country and its infrastructure.
If they have 1000's of $ to pay to smugglers they're not considering refugees. Opportunity seekers who pose as poor victims.
celeriacmarcus No doubt. A lot of them even have smartphones with them, while I've still got a flip phone.
I didn't think to be considered as a referee u needed to have no money, ! I was one I had money but I had to leave my country and save my life and very grateful for the opportunity I got here in UK and been paying taxes for decades now .
Oh, you would open that can of worms now wouldn't you ? YEP, how much are "we" supposed to have to "deal with?"
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
You are right. I knew a moroccan girl who came illegally in my home country. She paid 7000 euros. If her family could afford so much money, why take all this trouble.
When the Vietnamese people went to escape their communist country, you didn't see us bitching about how we don't instantly get citizenship, instead the Vietnamese learned to integrate, learned to speak, to work and to live peacefully
I am very socially liberal and I am all for equal treatment of every ethnicity, but watching all these random foreigners trying to settle Europe really isn't right. I don't care how worse off they are in their own countries. What Europe needs is educated intelligent people, not refugees from war torn and poverty run areas. I know they're in a tough situation, but Europe can barely handle it's own problems, let alone accepting people from around the world acting as a charity for poor people. I know I sound like a dumb conservative right now, but on that particular issue the conservative viewpoint is not that bad. Not at all.
Europe should start acting more like Australia. It's pretty much impossible to get a visa to try live and work in Australia. Why? Because they only accept very intelligent and well educated people that they have a need for. That's why Australia right now is the best country in the world according to the Human Development Index. Highest wages, best standards of living etc. A strict immigration policy is not that bad actually.
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
How dare these people go to another country and then demand they have everything without working for anything. Do they really not know why people don't want them there and won't give them jobs. What about not biting the hand that feeds you?
Are you American or European? Tell the government to stop colonizing...stop trying to colonize African countries and Asian countries (specifically the Middle-East). Stop wasting money on bullshit wars..stop supporting politicians that are bought off by corporate elites. Africa has the highest economic growth rate and has loaned money to European countries. Massive infrastructure is being built in Africa...they are trying to get into the European welfare system. Take control over your government so countries don't have to deal with Europe/USA's bullshit. Yes I am from the US too.
These immigrants WANT to work; but the orange grove owners don't want them to have hot water to bathe in as they do, ?
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
I refuse to capitalize the word china except if its representative of one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well!
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
These ignorant and irresponsible people should be stopped from having children.
VICE News heads to Lampedusa one year after the capsizing disaster that killed 360 migrants.
Ebola should just wipe out Europe than the world will know peace
mario brox You know where all the good medicine comes from, aye?
mario brox So much stupidity in this comment
mario brox let me guess are u russian
lolz651 wrong
I have lost faith in the journalistic integrity of Charlet Duboc, ever since her piece on Big Cats of the Gulf. She basically hung her source out to dry.
That, regardless of the validity of the piece.
How to get hate replies:
1) Mention anything related to race, religion, or nationality.
2) Watch the hate replies come rolling in.
If this doesnt look like an invasion i dont know what does.
If they live so badly and poverty , why they have so many children?
As far as I am concerned, if you're an illegal immigrant and drown in a shoddy boat off the coast of a foreign nation - it is not that nation's responsibility that you died for your own reckless behaviour and self-endangerment.
stay strong italy
Italy was built by Italians for Italians. I have no "right" to enter Italy, let alone become a citizen and Ward of the state demanding resources confiscated from Italian taxpayers. This is just insane. All these "migrants" need to work to improve THEIR OWN countries just like the Italians did in Italy or Swiss did in Switzerland.
Duh!!!
I can’t understand why the Italian Government is to blame for this tragedy?!?! Fleeing your own country on a boat built for half of the amount of people who were on board, is not the fault of Italy, they knew it was a huge risk and yet they all got on the boat. My heart goes out to immigrants in these situations but these people chose to gamble with their lives and unfortunately 300+ lost that gamble. This is a one sided story, never telling the other side of the immigration crisis. It’s a very unfair story. Tragically these people died but it’s so unfair that the blame falls on Italian hands!!!
If they put as much effort into trying to improve things in their home country as they do in fighting deportation, their homeland would not be such a s**thole.
The sad part is that they don't immediatly send all the boats back to Africa like they should.
Don't give these people the hope that they can go to Europe. They can't.
If Jamal leaves to try to sneak into Europe and a month later he's back in his hometown, they'll know it won't work.
The people smugglers make money from this false hope that they'll be allowed into Europe and get free money.
How are such desperately poor people able to pay smugglers thousands of dollars each?! Either they are not poor at all or some agency is giving them the money.
They were saving it up for years. Poor Europeans did the same thing when they paid for a spot on a ship to the United States.
Even taking into consideration value of European currencies 100 or so years ago compared to those today, I doubt if it cost anything like thousands (in U.S. dollars?) for least costly tickets aboard a ship back then,even for a small family with children.
You just proved yourself wrong. Please sit down, 3.5 for today's lesson.
They are paid for by one of the most wanted man in the world, George Soros , a Hungarian-Jewish who escaped from the Nazis and now a billionaire wanted in several countries for subverting whole countries economies and providing monetary support for subversive organizations worldwide.
That seems to me to be quite possible.
Many people have reported and looked at this kind of issue but no-one is making note of where these people are fleeing from. If those countries can't provide a fair lifestyle and working economy we should be taking them over and helping them build one NOT trying to give them somewhere to live. We fought for our way of life in our own countries so should they.
Globalistcommunism is the cause of flooding these illegals it's deliberate they want you gone displaced.
I don't want to give a judgement, but I would like to invite vice reporters to see what's the reality with uncontrolled illegal immigration. Anytime ready for confrontation.
They chose to get on that ship themselves, and blamed Italy for having no humanity.
There's no space to live in Italy anymore, and the lines just keep getting crazier.
They land Italy to go more north not to stay
Africa is the largest continent with the most resources. Why can't they develop and live in that bread basket?
They are. Doesn't mean every single person is in a good situation. Would you want to live in Ertirea as a young guy right now? If not, why force others to do so?
I am with you italy don't let to kill your beautiful culture
Greetings from Hungary
Italy needs to stop this horrendous situation by not allowing disembarkation. They will ADD NOTHING, only stress that nation to the breaking point which will lead to ultra-violence.
7 years later nothing has changed. The situation is even worst. Bye, from Italy
I get soo sick of Vice's obvious bias in these videos. Jeez.
My grandmother moved to the US from Germany after WW2 because she had nothing to go back to; her entire hometown was bombed flat. That being said, I've never met anyone that was against illegal immigration as much as her. Back when she moved here, she had to agree to NEVER go on welfare, she had to learn english from scratch, and had to work hard to follow the rules and immigrate the legal way. Now the small town that she and my grandpa raised my mother in is completely overrun by illegals, the town is NOTHING like it used to be. It's just another little Mexico now. Everything is in Spanish, the county had to build a brand new human services builing to accommodate all the new arrivals for their welfare. This isn't in California or Texas or some border state, nope, this is in middle of nowhere in southern Minnesota. It's just kind of sad. But I digress...
My opinion is that when you keep letting in illegals, their numbers just keep increasing exponentially. And that seems to be the case in Europe. There is just too many of them! And Vice seems to report these same things over and over - whatever group of people are living in horrible conditions and the government is doing nothing about it. So what IS the government supposed to do? Give them an apartment, all the food they want, healthcare, and whatever else they need. Then what is their motivation to better themselves? Even if they want to work it's not like there are many jobs available for them - it sounds like there aren't enough for the citizens. When do we stop accepting EVERYONE and say enough is enough, it's time to focus our little resources on the people we already have?
These African countries have to get their act together and take care of their own citizens eventually. Colonialism can only be blamed for so long.
I'm sure some idiot will label me a racist or some shit, but honestly I'm NOT anti immigration. If it wasn't for others going to new countries, I wouldn't be here! So that's not what I'm arguing. The bottom line is I get so sick of people going somewhere illegally with absolutely no plan, and then get upset that they don't have the exact same standard of living that the others in that country do. It's something that needs to be worked for - not something that's handed to you.
...just my 2 cents
Well the reason her apartment was bombed flat is because her people invaded Poland, France and a bunch of other countries in a manner much worse than what Africans are doing. It's important to remember that even though illegal immigratione should be dealt with it's wrong to colonize other people(I'm talking about the future which I hope will not be filled with the fourth reich. Most Germans are undercover Nazis nowadays.)
Um, okay. Obviously I know all about the war and the Nazis. What's your point?
Arcturus Dunhelm
Thanks. I have pride in myself and where I come from and want to see it continue...it's so sad to see our heritage completely lost in the population today.
anna sara
The point is I'm concerned about Germany creating the 4th reich. Yes, you read it right. And I think that is more dangrous to all the European states more than illegal immigration(which they can can combat if they understand everything has a limit which should not be crossed).
You're right, of course. I honestly agree with everything you said. I don't know of anything I alone can do that will stop them. Fuck, since I'm physically unable to have children, I can't even do that small part.
Initially I wrote my comment to vent about the video. It was just frustrating to watch all these Africans complain about the government not helping them. What were they expecting to happen?
Thanks for giving me some other things to consider st least.
why don't they fight for their homelands instead of forcing others to take care of them and then blame their benefactors???
Because it would be suicide.
"They have a right to choose where they want to live" NO THEY FUCKING DO NOT. Nations have the right to choose who they allow into their country.
Yes but that only applies to sheep and cattle Kye.
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well!
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
What is happening to these poor people is NOT the Italians' fault. It is their countries that are messed up in the first place. Europeans have been doing their best, and look at how they are treated back. Have you got better solutions to house these millions of people ? Maybe we should give them appartements in central Rome, or on Avenue Foch in Paris ?? They are already given basic facilities, that's a fair start no ?
23:10 minutes into video = the man who housed 40 young African men had a mini riot on his hands.
All the men (in their twenties) were all muscular and tall.
I can't imagine they came from a famine or war.
I smell BS
Thankyou Italy for helping the pushback!
When people travel they want to see Italy, or France or Switzerland, if they wanted to see Somalis or Africans they would go to those countries, this epidemic needs to stop.
STAY HOME CASE CLOSED !!
Back in 2015 you had 15,000 migrants a day entering into Hungary. How impotent and incompetent is the EU to allow such an omni debacle?
People say that they want a job, but do they really want to work? Or do they want a hand out? People who work are accepted almost anywhere, whether there legally or illegally.
25:30 I'm sorry I'm Japanese and got married to Italian, and it took me almost 9 MONTHS to get the permesso soggiorno (permission of stay). So please shut your mouth. My partner had to spend around €4000 for the language school and for the student visa so I could stay here legally while I was waiting for the Visa. We also had to (and have to) pay for the place to stay, food, bills and the lawyer. They don't deserve to be in this beautiful and welcoming country if they can't appreciate what they get for FREE. And Vice, I don't like fairly tales, I like documentaries. I'm very disappointed.
2 things come to mind after watching this.
1: The refugess are grossly mislead by the smugglers, by the somewhat truth that you get free education, free hospitals, jobs, money if you are unemployed. Overall a better life. Comparing that to the living standards of the most of Asia and Africa countries, it is much more desireable, of course. But all of this is only achieveable if you are a citizen of EU, which is hard to obtain these days.
2: A genuine, and somewhat justified fear from the EU countries that is if immigration isn´t controlled, as to a level where public offices can keep up, refugess will just roam around never contributing to society in any way. Sorting to the only means left to survive, crime. I also believe the reason why people are reluctant to accept these refugees into their way of life, is the massive culture gap, and the masses of uneducated potential workforce. It is a fact that manual and/or uneducated labor demands is decreasing, meaning they would have to offered extensive education, but firstly after the language barrier is overcome.
It is a massive task, that is upon the Eu, and i am not sure EU is up to it. Only time will tell.
I hate to state the obvious, but this whole problem would be solved if Italy turned these boats back. Why aren't they doing that? Other countries have, because it's important to set a precedent that illegal immigration isn't tolerated. And the migrants in the video don't seem grateful AT ALL for what Italy has given them. VICE shouldn't act so sympathetic.
The entitlement of this “ refugees “ is beyond me
I feel pity for italy
They demand things like the own italy funny
It's sickening, all this death.
I'm from Europe and the issue I have is, I don't want to pay for wave of people.
If the country of origin was forced to subsidise the refugees I think that would reduce the native complaint.
Funny, I've been giving my tithe (ten percent) of my income to street people who aren't carrying a liquor bottle, since I was eighteen!!
I content that big families with no jobs and no dependable heads of households needs to adapt some of china's rules ? Might be the only thing they do right anymore...limited to two children per household ? Duh.
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
I refuse to capitalize the word china except if its representative of one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well!
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
Help me out on this if I'm wrong but exactly which group of immigrants throughout history has ever had a job, good housing and great circumstances awaiting them on arrival? When my great grandparents came to the US, legally, from Italy they had no money, no support, didn't speak the language and were the lowest of the low. Today the mentality seems to be one of entitlement whether it's the US or Europe. I think these people believe they're owed something just because they show up. Africans seem a lot like blacks here in the US, "give me" because I want it. Colonialism is long over and African governments have had more than enough time to pull things together but they can't. Whenever given a chance to succeed African countries never do. If white people are so bad and exploitive why do these people desperately want to escape their own people and go to former colonial powers full of white people that they say were so abusive to them? The new demon around the world is the white race, we've just screwed everyone everywhere yet everyone who's not white wants to live in the countries we've built, benefit from our education systems, be given our money and live among us.
How do you know that the refugees think that whites are abusive? You're throwing a whole bunch of people into one pot and think they all agree.
Plenty of African countries have succeeded economically and there's less dictators than in the past. Nigeria, South America, Ethiopia, Rwanda, etc.
Those are nice expensive caskets. My mother couldn't even afford one of those for my father after they had both worked fulltime all their lives.
She called the boat going down "inhuman" but never went back to explain how.
By calling it "inhuman" and framing it as the government's fault your suggesting the boat sank due to direct action or policy of the government.
So why is this not covered or explained? And if it just sank due to accident why use a word like inhuman to describe it?
This isn't a complaint or opinion on the topic just noticing the misleading language use in the coverage of the topic.
Yeah it's weird. Sometimes people talk about this as if it was Italy's fault that the Mediterranean Sea exists.
Because their goal is to get views , not solve the problem for us ?
Of course; and it's a standard ALL COUNTRIES should be "setting" for their fellow man. (that and the birth control pill, ha ?)
AH, the Mickey Mouse Manipulated Maladjusted Media thinks WE aren't able to see the "hidden and untold Truths?"
hA-i SAY the LEAST that could be done, is to PROVIDE HOT WATER SHOWERS FOR EVERYONE you feel should want to become employed ?
She could just as well have been screaming "No humanity in San Francisco", ah "No humanity downtown LA? yes ? I had a very prejudiced friend in college who used to say "God, why don't these people go to work !" Ha, Like to have seen HER go on a job interview with no newly painted nails, no hot water bath, and see how SHE'D feel about "looking for a job ?" > People have lost the ability to "Imagin themselves" in someone Elses shoes, haven't they ? (Oh, she'd never attempt an interview without their Stellatos, btw , either ! Go figure, we couldn't stay "friends" for very long- She had no writing ability, just great presence at job interviews. I swear, she had no heart though! BTW, the Jamaicans who work with Amazon have the most ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH in the world! Now my concern is, ..duh, Why so many wars, ANYWHERE ? Being "forced" from ones homeland , and the videos show most of the "combat troops" are LAUGHING. Guess some men just can't grow up , you think? Bang Bang shoot-em up and video games make me sort of sick- They're being "programmed" folks..take a closer look sometime ?
I refuse to capitalize the word china unless I'm referring to one of our great Chines-American restaurants, employing lots of people and treating them well!
"God Gave them One More Day!"
and
"I Ain't no Middleman"
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
6:03 I know that she had lost a loved on, but that it no excuse to blame the hosts. The Italians are not responsible for the drowning. That lady should be grateful that the Italians had the compassion to organize a memorial for the deceased.
she was obviously shocked, probably traumatized. people react this way all the time after losses and such events
13:15- "Helping people is beautiful. That's what God wants, you know? God, up there."
Sorry sir. God is not real. If your god inspires you to go out & help people, great. But that will not change the fact that your god does not exist.
John Smith you do realize that man will never ever ever see your stupid comment don't you? I'm guessing you're not really interested in helping him, you just like the sound of your own high pitched girly voice.
MrPlayfulOtter
Hahaha you can hear me?
John Smith He's high as fuck! He can hear written words!
Something_to_appease_Google
Just look at his username.
"MrPlayfulOtter"
*HAHAHA!!*
John Smith It most certainly is highly amusing!
Time has passed and yesterday, October 7th 2016, over 7 thousand invaders flopped into the sea near Libya and were promptly picked up by the Spanish, French and Portuguese navies who then tried to dump them off at Sardinia in Italy. They were told sorry, no room we are already at over capacity here so they all ended up sleeping on the ships that rescued them. All this while Italians are in a desperate struggle to find work for themselves, feed their own families and educate their children, this lot arrive and demand, demand mind you, whatever is on tap and think it's theirs for the taking? In time they will be required to comprehend Italy is no dumping ground for the those who cannot figure it out for themselves, not a country to illegally crash into and certainly no nation where they can arrive like beggars and tell those who have put this country together what they want and when they want it. Also, why are these girlie men romping through the streets of Italy, how come they didn't stay and fight the tin pot dictators in their own country, were they having their period? Basta!
"They have a right to live where they want."
But do they? Is there a legal precedent that states that an individual's desire to live in a certain country supersedes the laws of that country? You might argue some case of a "natural" law, but what does international law state? Can a country be forced to accept immigrants that it cannot support? What about the rights of the citizens of the home country?
Take in a thousand, take in ten thousand, take in a million... There will still be a billion more! Also beware for every million that enter the less European your nation becomes.
Their problem...leave them.
Here comes Ebola infection too!
europe should unite and fight this invasion
Go Italy! It's okay and even admirable to stand up for your right, your culture and your country. As far as I know Italy doesn't owe any other country anything, and certainly can decide for their own whether or not to share their culture and resources.
Italy for Italians! We owe these nations nothing!
They need to carry their own weight! We carry ours!
Stay strong italians, as a us citizen I must admit that italy is handling the immagration situation worlds better then we do in the us. We offer these people benefits and give them rights... I wish we could send all these unreal people who wish to home these immagrants to an island so i can watch immigration ruin there island... take a look at how aggresive these people are being and how they mention they have no benefits... and you expected them?
Jesus Christ
What's with the dislikes? This is a very interesting documentary.
Yeah right?
It's the obvious stance they took about the issue. Journalists are supposed to be unbiased, and this is the most biased one sided report I've ever seen.
Germaanse Patriot
So you are a black supremacist?
WizzleThump Nah, some of Vice's other reports are worse
no war no peace
"Our Europe has no borders" Hmmm, reckon we should #Brexit.
#Italexit
_THERE IS NO MORE CHANCES FOR THE EU_
why do they think Italy owes them anything? they didn't invite them,they didn't know they were there! why do these ppl have such a sense of entitlement? why is it Italy's problem? Italy's in human? because a refugee boat capsized in the dark,sneeking through the water?
so thankful I have South American migrants they are good ppl.
They are kind of asking for it picking them up with their own boats.
it ISNT Italy's Problem,it should be Europe's problem,but...you know....every country in Europe (except Italy,Spain,Greece) are Half Nazi
Garry Perkins problem IS,that if we drop them in Libya,Probably we would get a Fine by the UN,or even by the NATO,and after that all italians would be "Nazis",That,is the problem,and,We have a left-wing party President,and...you know...
IDX GREEN® The fine would be from the EU, not NATO (NATO does not do fines, or moralizing). The UN does not matter. It is just a corrupt bunch of worthless thugs in NYC.
NATO does criticize Italy for mis-spending on defense (actually true), but they would not criticize Italy for protecting its borders. The EU might squeal, but who cares? If the EU wants to complain, then they should formulate a policy.
Until then, Italy needs to stop picking these people up and dropping them off in Italy. They should be dropped off back in Africa, where they belong.
and this shit keeps on going and going, saving these people will only hurt Italia and its people, Portugal and Spain is with you Italia! Fratelli mediterranei