Italy's Mediterranean Mass Grave: Europe or Die
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Since 2000, more than 27,000 migrants and refugees have died attempting the perilous journey to Europe. With an unprecedented number of people breaking through its heavily barricaded borders in 2014, the EU continues to fortify its frontiers.
In the fourth and final episode of Europe or Die, VICE News correspondent Milène Larsson arrives in Italy as the only extensive search and rescue mission in the Mediterranean is replaced with a border surveillance mission, effectively leaving thousands of desperate migrants adrift in the sea.
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VICE News correspondent Milène Larsson arrives in Italy as the only extensive search and rescue mission in the Mediterranean is replaced with a border surveillance mission, effectively leaving thousands of desperate migrants adrift in the sea.
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Why come to Europe? What’s the matter with a safe country in Africa? Now Italy’s not good enough. Why should they give you anything? You want everything handed to you on a plate. If your living in your own shit, can’t afford to feed yourself and scared for your life don’t have 10 kids and when you do get to a safe country don’t complain when they don’t hand you everything for free. What would your country do to me if I arrived there asking for handouts ?
This is a phrase that I invite you to copy and paste everywhere!
European union (regime) is based on 3 columns:
1) PUBLIC DEBT CREATED BY NOTHING TO TAKE UP DEMOCRACIES
2) ARTIFICIAL IMMIGRATION TO lower workers' salaries
3) HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT FOR THE STABILITY OF PRICES
The ECB is PRIVATE the euro is PRIVATE
ALL THE MONEY IN CIRCULATION = public debt
THIS IS THE REAL REACTION OF THE MARKETS!
We know Vice is super biased... but you can't in one sentence say they ran away from the centers where there was food and shelter because they did not want to be fingerprinted and then in the very next sentence say the men have nowhere to go and no food or shelter. They were offered food they were offered shelter they just didn't want to be fingerprinted because then they could not commit their crimes and get away with them. and if that food & that shelter is not better than their Homeland they should not have come in the first place.
@@peoplevsradio317 WHO IS PRINTING AND CHECKING YOUR OWN MONEY DOES NOT HAVE ANY INSOLVENCY PROBLEMS! Japan ,U.S.A. Iceland, Switzerland will have no problems repaying their public debt because they finance themselves! THE EUROPEAN DICTATORY UNION EMPOWED THE REAL DEMOCRACY TAKE OUT OUR SOVRANITY !, which are now being blackmailed by you, from the financial markets! european central bank is private, euro is private !! ALL MONETARY CURRENCY = public debt! you rating agencies are the scum of the world, you are the slaves of the perverse neoliberalism, blackmailers OF DEMOCRACIES! every state must check their MONEY! HOW DARE TOU TO BLACKMAIL THE ITALIAN DEMOCRACY WITH YOUR RIDICOLOUS RATING ! YOU GAVE TRIPPLE A TO THE TOXIC TITLES! YOU GAVE AAA to leman &brothers !! shame on you !!! ua-cam.com/video/4HJ54RRB7OU/v-deo.html
Europe is the mother of the world.
Don't want their fingerprints taken, no money, no job, end up living on the street........what do you think they are going to do to get money!?
Vasting because NATO and some European Union states bombed Libya , NATO members France, Britain, Germany and Italy helped the US invade and destroy Iraq and NATO member Turkey arms terrorist in Syria - now people in EU and NATO countries wanna *bitch* and *moan* about the influx of immigrant's from those countries - now you have to feed the victims of your aggression - next time you should think before you leap .
Also - Britain, French and Germany along with the US has been arming Syrian and Libyan rebels, we still arm the current Libyan government - we also just recently gave the Syrian rebels TOW anti-tank missile - the spill-over from Libya destabilized Mali, Central African republic, and Kenya's country side - and lead to the rise of Extremism in Algeria , Tunisia and morocco -
jmantime So because they bomb them, there obligated to take care of them? Nah, it' cause pro-left is in charge. If they had good immigration policies, and more pro right, things wouldn't be like this. The immigrants would just be sent back and back.
Vasting lol, the pro-right-wing caused all of this with their shitty wars , now they are all butt-hurt
Vasting Well, the aids still doesn't end in their hands, rather to invest in return in the host nation's pockets
***** but we are still arming one side in the current conflict
I just got angry when the young man said it was dirty, how about cleaning your own rooms and not expect your mother or sister to do it, prisoners and all free ppl all over the world do it themselves so the only dirty thing in there is the ones who dont clean it themselves.
You know, Western Europe makes up only about 8% of the total landmass on Earth. Are you really telling me these immigrants cannot find a place in the HUGE continent of Africa or the rest of the middle east? Native European families do not have bottomless pockets, our lands combined are only a small fraction of the size of Africa, our own people cannot find steady work, yet we need to accept this constant, 24/7 onslaught of foreigners?
Yes unfortunately, until we can round them up and drop them back off from where they come from nothing will change.
Ryan Marshall You do fucking realize that guy is a troll and is not serious? He has a picture of Hitler for fuck's sake!
Communism4Ever He maybe a troll, he has a profile pic of hitler but I can agreed this one time with him and the point he is making.
yeah, its not like they dont pass 30 countries to get to europe
"The residents of the future "United States of Europe" will not be the People of the Old Continent, but a kind of sub-humans, products of miscegenation. He clearly states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and colored races, thus creating a multinational flock with no quality and easily controlled by the ruling elite.
Richard Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination and then the elimination of nations with the use of ethnic separatist movements and mass migration. In order for Europe to be controlled by an elite, he wants to turn people into one homogeneous mixed breed of Blacks, Whites and Asians.
golden-dawn-international-newsroom.blogspot.it/2013/01/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-genocide-of.html
The EU should ask Australia about how they stopped Illegal immigration.
Dan non So how DID they stop illegal immigration?
Alexandru Dragan Basically without going into to much detail they simply turn the boats around and send back the boats to Indonesia where they embarked from. The ones that some how slip through and make it to Australian waters they send to offshore detention centers, with no chance or opportunity to finally settle in Australia. I think and don't quote me on this the government is now giving the asylum seekers the choice to go back to their country of origin or get sent to Cambodia. But with no chance to settle in Australia.
Dan non They are an island, easier to just patrol boats rather than land boarders
Dan non And given itself its reputation as a racist country
Australia is known as a racist country? Or do you just say that because everything white people do is racist?
Why dont they go somewhere else? Like Saudi Arabia, Egipt or Oman. Europe can barely sustain its own people now.
Because those countries are run by dictators & there are no laws or rights!
@@cindyrogers5802 hi miss Piggy🤮🤮
These people are actually nice people.. they are gentle people.. may God help them
Because they don't like the answer. Thats why
And we don't like the answer.
Im Bulgarian young man who is without a job and i know how hard life can be if you dont have money i can understand why they risk so much to find the better life but....when i saw those guys going mad over Italy and spit on the bed in the same time they're smokin Marllboro's that costs 6 euro's...maan just send them back to Africa!
You so right
They are quite willing to ship a young clearly vulnerable young woman back to her torturous husband and forced marriage however.
Syria is not in africa
Agree. Ungrateful smoking addict man
Dear World:
My name is Luca i'm a 20y old boy , i live in Modena a small city of 250'000 people , i want to start saying I M NOT RACIST but go on.... : in the last 10 years i saw the changes of my city ..... it was a fantastic place u could live with open doors nobody would have steal something to you ... no u go out and on 100 people u saw 50 migrants (regular or without ID ) and u MUST go with the hands in ur jacket and take care of ur phone and ur poket cause if u don't pay attencion in 20 min of walk probably one of them won't be more on u ( sry for my bad english ) . this situation is really rought italians are not racist after mussolini , but during this years also people like me that understand that their conditions are rly rough start thinking that they have to go back home or on the other hand not even helped in the see.... WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEM , WE HAVE NO WORK FOR OUR FATHERS NO WORK FOR OUR MOMS how the fucck we could give them a work ? Italy is not more the SUN country Is the immigration country: italy to the italian people !
>italy
>safe
pick one
***** I think there is mate.
Luke Poore No there isn't you fool. Humans, like all other mammals on the planet, are physiologically wired as a tribal species. Racism is an innate natural survival mechanism. Nothing will ever change that. You being a beta male might not be able to understand this but that is how it is.
Hai raggione fratello
Anche io italiano e anche io con le palle pieni di questa merda.
As much as my heart goes out to the migrants. Europe's roads are not paved with gold. Work together, build your county . Don't abbondon it.
Don’t abandon your women either you utter cowards.
So true
They don't want to put in any effort they just want it given to them
I started saying that about the illegals coming to America 15 or more years ago. I knew it would catch on. These are strong young men most of the time so why don't they fight for freedom. Thats what we did in America and many other places. Tried of people showing up as if they had been in the same fight and demanding the resources other have paid into for years with taxes and more to have as if it was theirs and we are keeping it from them. If you will not fight for your rights in your country then make no demands on ours!
Please do your research on eritrea first. The countrie where a lot of the migrant are from. Please
I watched this whole series. I thought I had a sense of how bad it is. But I was shocked about a much worse reality.
And then I read the comments down below - and now I am speechless.
If that comments are a representation of mankind down there, I'd rather book a one-way-ticket to mars.
Thought we were civilized. What a misperception.
+sdhpCH pretty much my thoughts. The sense of hatred here is disgusting.
Sorry lefty, your kind will be dealt with eventually.............
All righty, huh? Yes. Go on, show how your kind minds work and let the public judge...
+sdhpCH ofc the thruth is ugly, but do you seriously expect we (europe) can solve all of this by helping them? ofc not, so the next logical step is to just dont let them in
+sdhpCH You want to help them? You house them and you feed them.
Many people here act as if illegal immigration is legal
No their not. But we must say it to them.
They hate west. But they want, what we have. Without doing nothing. Not the brigthest. No nobelprise. Traditions. Many of them are educated. But they will not go home and build their country. There you have it. They have got out of jail. Nobody check it out. Prisners. Doubble lifes. Many of them are abusers of there women. There culture are in other africans countries. Take the nearest country and stay there. You don't Iike our culture. Many of you can't behave. I believe they not are used to work either because the women do most of the work. There you have one and two truths.
@@ingridarvidsson7597 Yea, I dont think being bombed, or being in the middle of a war, or have your relatives executed, or maybe protest about how bad their government is gives them much of a choice when it comes to surviving. So take your privilege elsewhere, like bruuuuuuuuuh
Just for one moment imagine being so desperate for survival that you would risk anything, even die or be caught or tortured. We can't imagine that so please don't judge. Things can change in your own life in an instant! Have some compassion and empathy for mankind!
Some of these comments make me quite sad.
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***** Only really few migrants are from Zimbabwe and South Africa.
But why is it important to you to preserve your culture and mark out others?
***** Apparently your values don't include having respect and beeing polite.
How do you know someone belongs to somewhere? Do the not native Americans belong to the USA?
***** okay, it seems like both our opinions won't change as you take something I can't understand as an argument .
I don't understand how someone belongs somewhere more than someone else. I know whites are more native to Europe. But I don't see a difference in humans just because of their color. Also I don't understand why you should deny everyone the chance of a better life just because they are black or from another country.
Is it really Europe's responsibility to save all those migrants? I do feel sorry for the refugees who must be escaping from pretty dire situations, but isn't that just too much burden for southern European countries?? I'm asian and there are not much imigration issues here yet, but Europe seems to be suffering from a huge problem.
What do you expect. Us Asians dont feel the need to go to each others countries and we dont use 'feelings' to justify illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is still illegal and must not be tolerated.
it's karma. Europe invaded other countries for hundreds of years and now this is their comeuppance.
My mistake, I should have been more specific. I'm referring to England , France and Spain. It does seem like Karma to me that all three countries now have an immigration problem.
***** Japan do have very good immigration system. You can see that they dont have any illegal migrants.
cammzz idiot
Human level I feel sorry for them BUT EU has massive problems right now and adding immigrants makes things worse for native europeans and immigrants who are allready in the country
EU has to make it clear that people can ONLY come legally not illegally
Michael Taylor That was a long time ago let the past be the past and move on and live in the present.
I have no sympathy either, these people are just traveling into an unknown and bleak future, but somehow they sense prosperity on the way. But they're just sad individuals. Nothing I would attempt
Michael Taylor no that's not true, you don't know history
Michael Taylor well, i know my country's history, and out of 51 states we colonized 3. and for less than 30 years. how many did england? how many did france? how many did belgium? how many did netherlands? how many did germany? if you want to pick the historical reason then you better start to shut the fuck up and learn a bit before
@@mattiagentilini5726 I just say Lybia and Ethiopia. I must know. Germans fought in Lybia.
And to answer, Germany has had a much limited colonial empire that was lost 1918.
Namibia and Camerun are ex colonies.
We should provide them with a safe return. That way they will realize we don't want them and then maybe they start working on their own countries instead of forcing themselves in ours.
all the big corporations in their countrys are owned by us. so no matter how hard they work the only people profiting are some rich dudes in the first world
it would be cheaper to just not give a fuck about them
let the drown
who the fuck even cares about them
That's what Australia does now. They just tow refugee ships back to Indonesian waters.
I agree. Good call
***** As you are interested in this topic, I recommend you to read about European immigration law. Many people don't know that there is barely a way to legally immigrate to Europe out of a troubled area like Syria, as people may have lost their personal documents or have no access to a embassy of the country they want to migrate to.
The second way, seeking asylum, requires entering EU ground, which is in the first moment illegal but their only way.
Because of this every refugee can be called a criminal, even if he/she never harmed a fly. Also even high skilled, needed workers have to choose the illegal way, but are then stuck in the status of a refugee and can't work, even if their work is needed [at least in some countries]
They complain and complain...if it's dirty clean it...but they smoke!!!!!!
Shut up
Italy is broken, they are doing already too much
well/stop being dumb...
BinaryMan that's why people need to rise up and be heard,put pressure on governments..before its to late,that as if it ant already...
Where do they get the money to buy all them smokes? Cigarettes aren't cheap in western Europe.
Take away the smokes and everyone might have an actual bed instead of a matt. Expensive habit for sure
Maybe they allride have it back from home ...just saying 😂
ther sandbaggin
Creditcard and gold etc... drugs... etc.
DrVre it's so they can't smoke normal cigarette? If they can pay $500usd , what is $6 ? Maybe the west should leave Africa too and hand over money belonging to african countries frozen in European banks . Take away all sanctions , stop war and propaganda . We won’t go to Europe
How are they thinking that they are entitled to everything they claim to want...?
because that's what they have been told by their lying imams
and Italians in America should go back too.
Their evil quran says that the infidels owe them money simply because they are special because they are muslims It also tells them that they are never to be grateful for it. The quran says that when your numbers are large enough to rise up and slaughter them (infidels) . They are there to conquer every country that they go too.
Because your ancestors thought the same
Thank you Italy for these beautiful, highly skilled individuals who will definitely find a job and not just be a burden to the welfare system.
Yours sincerely,
Northern Europe
they will end up in Migrant heaven Norway.
yodanyrd
I hear they are also cutting down the entire forest for the slight amount of profit they might be able to receive.
Good luck with yours,
Sincerely, some immigrant from america.
Why should Italy pay for border protection when all these immigrants are going north? Northern Europe is the one that needs to participate in immigration control of external EU borders. Italy is not sending anyone to Sweden. Sweden is refusing to pay its share for the common border protection.
We already got too much immigrants!
From Western Europe (Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, France, switzerland and Austria)!
semiheresemi wait what? italy is the country that puts the immigrants in a train and sends them north without a passport. italy, by law, would be the first european country they enter, therefor has to give out passports, which would mean that they get asylum in italy. but they just send them north until they get checked in germany/sweden/etc. and thats where they get asylum and stay.
This is unbelievable, good lord
As unbelievably fat your mom is.
OOOOOHHHH!!!
Mighty Roogna So that's who is sinking the boats...
***** brother!
What's sad is that I almost cried watching this. And it's hard for me to cry... yet here I am making jokes
troll in reform flossin it be nice if they could meld together and find a way to solve this crisis, but either they stay in Europe and be poor or go be forced to go back to war and to poverty. A fleeting wish, I know...
EUROPE GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER
+Stephano Games europe love black dick
While my heart goes out to the individuals that attempt this journey, I don't think that Italy should have to incur such collateral damage. I think that Italy needs to give notice to any ships or boats entering its borders and if they don't take heed to the warning, The Coast Guards should be allowed to destroy the vessels. I understand that the living conditions are atrocious and they are seeking refuge, However Many of the people fleeing are from WAR TORN countries and don't necessarily share the same ideology of Italians. So taking them in will only become problematic later on as they may never fully assimilate to Italian society. if however Italy should decide to take in refugees ,I would suggest only taking in children 6 years of age and younger, Higher probability of assimilation and young enough that their core values have not been ingrained yet, furthermore any religious brainwashing can be slowly expelled.
Good point
swires86 01010101010101010
TriniCrew Oh man, I would gladly accept any ideology of the 1st world rather than being tortured, prosecuted, violated, slaughtered, bombed or starved to death by the indirect action of 1st world countries. Thank you.
swires86 I came to Canada legally and I share the same ideology as the majority of Canadians. Side note,while my physical characteristics may give you the impression that I am 100% negroid am actually biracial. However your assertions don't surprise me,if you were remotely intelligent you would have asked instead of jumping to conclusions.
Henry Andriese
My concern is more to do with whether or not they share a common/similar Ideology with that of the people of Italy,furthermore If they are contributing towards a countries growth ,then I have nothing against that. Geographical speaking most of the people entering into Italy is doing so because of it's proximity to them.
These people have the audacity to believe they have the right to invade another country and are hostile to the country they are invaded
Can I just say that this series has been a really interesting piece of investigative journalism. Well done and I applaud you for leaving conversations open although I failed to find one grown-up civilised conversation anywhere.
No money for food but still smoking 🚬 huh 😳
This is exactly like the movie Elysium. People living up on an Ivory Tower and expect the majority of the world to live and die in cesspools.
Dude. You do understand that while Elysium was written there were people already illegally immigrating to other, better countries? It was also written by a lefty.
Peteruspl Most movies today reflect on the real issues and phenomenons faced around the world.
You wrote "white is white". It is obvious that movie Elysium has a relation to the issue that compelled writers to write it's script. What was the point of your original comment?
Peteruspl It is all in the same theme. Italy dumps its toxic waste into the Gulf of Aden; you get pirates. DRC becomes the main source of resources for our cell phones; the country is in complete turmoil. Reap what you sow.
***** I learned today the EU's anthem has the word "Elysium" in it, so it's pretty ironic isn't it.
22:28
23:20
This two show how much contrast there can be. I sympathise with the young woman, not with the guy.
I know the conditions are bad, but Italy is under enormous pressure and he doesn't seem to have any respect for the host nation he entered illegally
Interesting fact: These boatescapes often cost more than 1000€ wich is pretty much in those third world countries
And so?
thats enough for a planeticket anywhere in europe, why not get here that way???
neuroleptika Because they will be arrested at the airport and sent back.
Alex Aurelian
not if they just apply for a tourist visa, then they will be let in the country and then they can go and seek asylum?
neuroleptika I think that they can't apply for a tourist visa to seek for asylum. It must have been attempted so many times that Eu prevents it. It's the only solution because all those people decide to cross all those dangerous countries and the sea it must be their only choice.
At last I genuinely feel for the 23 year old girl, she should be given refugee status, not the other leeches.
Italian thanks the anglo/french coalition to overthrown Gheddafi to get their greedy hands on Lybia's oil and bring them the hell of a muslim civil war at their doorstep.
"I was imprisoned for no reason in Libia" hm so crossing the border of a foreign country with out a visa is not a crime?
Good may you learn to stay in fucking country
Don't risk your life just for a welfare dream; stay in your country, don't act as a victim, be a man and defend your land, make it productive
Those detention centers, I could bet, were perfect, and those rooms and those beds were in great condition. They destroy what ever they have in spite of the Italians and Europe in general. Give the immigrant a detention center, tent, or even a Villa, like that what was shown in a previous episode, and they will destroy it.
eu countries should just offer everyone free shipment to america! crisis solved, immigrants happy, all can go to the country that caused them to run from their homes in the first place! that would be the best irony
+Seymore Butts And england, americas little dog.
+Indigo baloon fffUUUUUCK that
I: America isn't the only one who was fucking with the middle east. If that's your attitude then they should be spread out equally across some European countries as well. ;p
+Foolish Doc america is the big bully who makes others do what it wants. so america is THE. ONLY. ONE. who made this happen. its jungle law now between countries i tell you!
America has only been around for the past couple hundred years. Only been fucking around in the middle east the last 30-50 years. Now, take some credit to the other couple thousand years.
But how can they find work if there isnt even for us Italians :c
That EU is taking so little responsibility is absurd. There are no internal borders in most of the EU. So Europe needs to take some (most) of the responsibility for controlling its external borders. Most of the immigrants are not interested in staying in Italy or Greece anyways. It is a bit hypocritical of member-states who are the major recipients of the immigrants to demand that Italy takes care of the entire operation. This is EU's border, not just Italian. Europe needs to change its outdated state-based immigration policy and assume a common one. No state should be pressured to take up the immigrants but also no state should be forced to do all the work of border protection.
Why italian people have to spend their taxes to help those imigrants rather then build for example new road in their country? No one invited those people to Europe so now they must face consequences of their's risky journey.
Vice News is the enemy of the white race, and yes this is being done on purpose! The Globalist, Communist are trying to destroy ever White Christian Country with mass, 3rd world immigration, have you ever heard of this woman? Barbara Lerner Spectre
No one invited Europe to colonize Africa
@@HelloCurve111, and no one invited you blacks to colonize Italy and go on welfare ! You blacks seem to always be playing the victim, but never condemning your own race! Now since we whites have been being pushed out since the 1960's, time for you to go
96, and time for you to leave Europe! Time for you to get of welfare and stop crying racism! We Italians do not want you in our country,
@@romandarius6041 First I'm not black & secondly europe especially Italy has had a long history of conquering countries & colonizing. This is the reaction to centuries of colonization. The only solution is population control & true democracy in Africa & other places
The Pope goes to Africa & tells them as Catholics they don't have the right to use condoms lol. What do you expect?
The Bangladeshi guy was remarkable traveling through so many countries to get to Italy. But it's a dead end.
I was relieved that he dint chose to stay in India. We are facing an influx of illegal Bangladesh immigrants here in N.E of India. They're literally taking over all political and business institution. Just too many. We are worried and helpless. The Indian govt is giving a deaf ear to this problem but soon they will lose the entire NE region to greater Bangladesh . Anyways , cheers!
"Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy." ... - Mathew 5:7
everytime an immigrant acts tough and curses the country he's staying in, just makes me realize how ungrateful they are. If you treat them with respect and equality, they will try for more and more everytime, because they think it's permitted. It shouldn't be, and all these human rights and EU laws actually damage the capacity of member states to firmly deal with this situation.
On an emotional level, this was really hard to watch. I'm glad you are doing these stories, that's for sure. To know things like this makes me feel like I need to try harder in my own life so I can eventually find ways to make bigger differences about things like this, I currently can't do a thing about it. Some of the images make me feel like crying, some make me feel so sick and angry. But. Motivated. I want to see everything get better, it starts with each one of us, not someone else. So I will certainly do my best for everybody the best I can.
The phone call at 16:20 is very touching...wow. May god be with all these people.
This comment section is toxic, read at your own risk.
And you are just creating more toxic to it with worthless comments.
Its fun to read these comments man. Its like looking at the most apparent type of views and it makes you think.
If european countries had any sort of strength, they would divert the refugees to muslim countries.
Muslims should ask for asylum in Muslim countries. If they want to immigrate, they should immigrate legaly.
Cristian Elizondo If you think the commenters are heartless, you are welcome to raise funds to save all the migrants. I dare you.
No offense but after you rescue them off of where-ever, please take them back to the port they came from for processing. First off, I'm not an European ... flooding these people into EU in the name of rescue is appalling. You can take 20 million of these guys a year and still not make a dent in the lives of people that need to migrate visa/statue because of war and dire living situation. Think for a minute: what kind of person will sit on a boat to leave their country risking death? The answer is harsh " the ones that have nothing to loose" or "the ones that are absolutely lost everything and death is eminent". What these guys are doing is denying the opportunity for people in need asylum the most.
Its sicking to see well built man in their teens, 20s, 30s and 40s coming on a boat in the name "fleeing" war. They may be a few that really need to exist out of their origin country immediately but one can argue this endlessly that there are others that need EU help more than these guys.
This is no different than heeding to Somali pirates. Paying them endless money for hostages...these guys are holding humanity and sad life story as hostage. This is not ok.
At the very least a create a asylum state (island) that disconnects any Auto EU entry thing... and process people there. Don't just haul them in...
In the end, people in sub saharan region needs our help. We are here for you and I'm here for you in what little ways I can do. Helping a handful that you randomly find on waters is not it. This is grave disservice to help only people in boats that are already rich enough to pay $1000.00 for a boat ride. I know what $1000.00 means in Africa. I have been there...
ur doing it wrong. You should sink the boats before they reach the shore
It worked for Australia. It would also solve the problem with deaths, since no one with brain inside scull would go for this trip, if they knew they will be sunk.
what a dilemma. Probably should help fellow humans, but what can be done with them?
Would love to see the same series again 2020 status
That woman who was fleeing forced marriage really broke my heart.
A mí sinceramente NO!!!. Espero que no tengas algún problema con ellos.
i'm surprised by how people are surprised with all this , hope you liked the quick peek of the real world, now go back to your astronomical problems about how to make your perfect coffee
Certainly puts things (everything) in perspective even when I find my own life is tough - how can I even compare? I always find it so confusing how when I try to keep in mind other people's hardships and misfortunes, it still doesn't seem to make my own situation feel more bearable (unless I'm watching videos like this at the time). Perhaps I have to keep constantly keep reminding myself of these poor souls?
15:38 no money or food, but some how gets ahold of a fucking Cig LOLOL
you now...because they have priorities XD
Risk vs reward. Are we eliminating the risk? Send them back.
Unbelievable amount of racism in these comments, Where has the compassion gone amongst fellow humans?
Scrolling down to the comment section makes me sad
Is there not a single italian official that is able to speak English?
They have to speak in their language not in english because, like you said, they are ITALIAN OFFICIAL, not american/english ones.
Can't you read?
Italians, ignorant yanks and french people are only able to speak in their mother tongue, that's common knowledge.
Christi Militia Maybe not all of them, but it sadly seems to be true for a lot of them.
Christi Militia go burn in hell you ignorant nazi!
Italy gave them a chance and they destroyed Italy.
I hope they close down every center then there will be no "oh these immigrants are getting treated so bad here"...stay in your own country that was so bad you had to leave then
16:40 he calls his mom,
Yea mom thank Allah I got out, I missed home!? The worst is over.
She says she is gonna sleep well
Why did this young man abandon his defenceless family? Isn't it his job to protect her and his younger siblings??
He did that so he can get job and send money to his family
@@KRPTN why not make his own country better, why not use that determination and drive to try to create a job or a better life for your family
You think he is going to get a paycheck and send it home? Not go to the club with the exotic white girls dressed in ways he never imagined, or buy a phone or computer or tablet or designer clothes
Get real, seriously get real
Yes he went to London, got a 1 bedroom, ate soup every night and sent every penny to his little sister and mom, the same people he left in a Male warzone
@@BOB-wx3fq its not that easy "make your own country better" if your government is corrupt fucks who dont care about its people and a war is going on how can you make your own country better
@@KRPTN I hate to admit it but his words made some sense. I've been binge watching documentaries related to this issue. As I see, most of these aren't faring well, barely able to keep a roof for themselves. How can they send money when they can't even earn one due to their personal expenses? They just can't skip meals and even grooming, as no establishment or employer would want a sickly or uncleaned employee.
Finding a manager who wants one is a pipe dream.
@@LawrenceVengeance i think after they get accepted by migration they can get jobs more easily
It's crazy to read some of these comments, only if your European ancestors and still today stayed in their own country and not ILLEGALLY entered others for resources and disrupt people's society. And yes I am aware some of these countries are just at war with themselves. History always repeats itself, don't forget you could be the country (people) in need next.
Europeans will be in need once the islamification of it is complete, where will they go? That’s assuming they manage to survive the neck choppers.
Rightly so.
Look at Ukraine now.
Since when is Vice so biased and whiny?
They have ruined it. Look at all the shit and dirt and rubble everywhere!
why dont these people try to change their own countries? I really do not get it, I mean if you do not like your country why dont you become an activist/entrepreneur/politician, anyone who might make a change? It just seems that they prefer the relatively easy way of living on the back of Europe rather than become visionaries and turn their countries around
Old video,
Italy fixed itself . Spain is the new door into Europe for these outstanding future citizens.
RIP Europe
BLAME SOCIALISM !!!!!!
*The government of Egypt is now calling for military help, since their neighboring country Libya was taken over by El-Kaida militias and Islamic State affiliated gangs who commit terror acts against Libyan citizens, foreigners and the state of Egypt. Who caused this?*
Libya was a stable and prosperous, mostly secular country under Gaddafi. The region is now completely destabilized just for the sake of the West having better access to Libyas natural resources. In 20 years those who are responsible for this debacle will admit, that the Coup against Gaddafi was a huge mistake.
Can I answer?
1. Europe
2. USA
nahimana willy Almost Correct. But it was not the whole of Europe or the entire European Union who pushed for a military Coup against Gaddafi. It was mainly: Great Britain and France. Germany for example tried to stay out of it and didn't send troops or jets to attack Libya.
send them all back
I'd like to say that Mare Nostrum, though costly, seemed like the closest and most humane way to deal with people who are seeking a better life. The president of chamber of deputies of Italy was right that politicians do not understand what it is like to live through war and oppression. These people deserve the right to seek a better life and if they are brave enough to risk their lives, why not help them. Don't let fear blind you with hatred because it is this very hatred that causes the war they are trying to escape from.
L G Better life?
Yeah, I ain't European, my country has poverty and other shit too, yet I don't run away you know.
There’s no hatred like a Muslims hatred for another type of Muslim and the hatred they have for infidels. Why should we help the religion of hate.
Human suffering of any kind is bad, but it's hard to feel true empathy for people who are suffering because of situations into which they have willingly chosen to be placed. :(
and cue the insane racist comments ....3.....2......1....GOOOO!
It's sad because nearly all these people are trolls and probably don't even think half the things they say, or believe what they say. They are literally breeding fascism... for a laugh.
There is nothing wrong with fascism.
Communism4Ever Racism never dies and never will because humans, like every other mammal, are physiologically wired as a tribal species and thus naturally (even if just slightly) inclined to be suspicious and hostile towards those different than them. Its an innate survival mechanism. Many females and beta males often times don't understand this, but most males do, whether they admit/acknowledge it or not.
Ryan Drake Racism never dies: therefore OK.
gg fuck off
Ryan Drake
What a suprise, a white male trying to use pseudo scientific bullshit to justify being a dick to people less fortunate than him... it's incredible how those with the most privilage in the world try and naturalise their arrogance and make out we are all like them... and stop with the red pill beta male nonsense, makes you sound like a 16 yr old kid complaining about not getting laid enough
Why don't they want to give there fingerprints. Because they are known by the police? Where come the sigarets from when they have no money.
...SAVE THE SHARKS!! ...BE KIND ...DO YOUR PART!! ...THE WORLD WILL THANK YOU ...
The more you have, the less you want to share...
Why should Europe have to pay millions of dollars building defences against invasion. Charge the costs to the nations that allowed this mass of rabid bipeds to happen in the first place.
If you torpedoe 3-4 boats they would stop coming. It would save lives and also the future of Europe.
Note to viewers do not read comments, i made that mistake and i read some truly nasty things.
It gets a bit tiring to read comments about how these folks should come to the EU legally. It is not like they can go to an EU member-state's embassy, apply for immigrant visa and then wait in line. You hear the same ignorant argument in the US too. If a foreigner asks for a visa to immigrate to the US the only thing that will happen is a permanent rejection of any type of a visa (tourist, business, etc). EU member-states have similar policy. So there is NO line to wait in. There is NO way to immigrate legally for people from most countries.
well that sucks for them. maybe they should risk their lives turning their shithole nations into something worth living in.
DeathBringer9000
Yeah, those unaccompanied 10 and 11 yr old kids, damn them for wanting to save themselves!
show mercy and compassion.
Anytime I see Ms. Larsson on Vice I don't watch it. Her perspective is all refugees are welcome and it is criminal to think otherwise. Need to assign another reporter to the subject.
***** The only Vice reporters I respect and trust is Shane and Thomas because they've proven themselves back then, specially Shane. All these VICE new bloods are utterly bad and biased.
you know before we killed kadaffi.. libeya was ver nice place to live.. rich and beuiful
Yes my brother went there and they had to have bodyguards wherever they went, very nice place to live,NOT.
However, all of the immigrants are not Libyan, but rather are from other African countries
Let me tell you something. The last time boats were coming out of North Africa en masse towards Europe was the Barbary states and they were aiming on taking Europeans as slaves. The more you know.
Why would you take responsibility for someone's death if they didn't go get a life jacket or take more precautions to protect the life they're so concerned about "losing" in there home country
It is not closing the dention centers that's needed. What is needed is to SEND THEM ALL BACK AS SOON AS THEY ARRIVE. They enter illegally they should be sent back. EU is to blame with it's rules that they can not be sent back but have to be held until filtered through or ??
Once they spot the ships sinking help them sink faster and feed the sharks.
unbeatable 23 love your hate. we won't be running anywhere because we are not afraid of death.
unbeatable 23 regardless of where the individual is from africa or asia , no human being should be eaten by shark. and for you to have the kind of thinking its very sad. be kind to others
unbeatable 23 i see what your saying. sorry for misunderstanding there. i hope there won't be any war, if there is i wish nobody get sinked by anyone.
Hell yeah, or get naval guns and open up. F them
Not everyone wants to be a humanitarian (liberalized) country like the United States and I don't blame them. There is no shame in not caring (and I know it sounds cold, but is reality in my opinion) for people that are not citizens of your own country. that should be the responsibility of the immigrants home country.
Do you think it's fare that Italian citizens pay 10's of billions of euros a year to support illegal immigration support programs? If you think they should keep these programs going; then you open the flood gate to the number of immigrants to exponentially increase, costing more money... kind of like the United States. ..
If Italy doesn't put their foot down they will essentially be invaded with refugees, which is bad news for Italian citizens. This would lead to higher crime rates (because refugees will have trouble finding work and resort to violence to get basic needs), etc, etc, etc. .. you get the picture.
Vice, you should shine the light on the governments on the other side of the Mediterranean, where these boats are originating from. .. After all, Italy does not own the Mediterranean, it should not be their sole responsibility to look after this crisis.
What!?! That guy calls his mom back home? He left her there!?! If it's Sooo bad there, why did he leave her defenseless?
Italy is trying its best. If people escape from camps, ending on the street (without knowing that there are many NGOs ready to help them) there's nothing we can do. If people enter in our country without permission with an economic poupouse, there's nothing we can do but send them back. I'm really sorry for that woman who loose her child, but italian govenment can't provide for her right now, she was borned in the wrong place, but that's not our fault.
The rest of Europe doesn't want to recieve them, and we have limited space.
E lo dico con la morte nel cuore.
Her husband killed her child and is running away from him
They, and their do-gooder NGO advocates, need to be towed back to the Libyan coast.
how these arabs are lived before thousands times more bad but they complain from mouse and flatsheet omg when they mostly has no even running water around in their thirld world
Nobody Should Be Living in These Appalling Conditions Ever it's Disgraceful!
They should go back home. White people don't want multiculturalism.
@@KitchenerLeslieGirlfrien-bv2mm the white people cause it so they should manage it
A very solid documentary, thank you for that. It was almost impartial which is very rare in journalism, especially in this particular topic.
i agree with the woman from Save The Children, cutting on humanitarian operations like Mare Nostrum is simply unacceptable, the lives of innocent people fleeing their suffering for a better life is priceless
shows how hypocritical and selfish the EU leadership is, so long as the folks in the union's ladders roll in the money they dont give a fuck and of course individual country's leaders arent much better
this is perhaps the best reason of why the world needs to unite completely under one banner and be divided only by zones, no borders
xGoodOldSmurfehx ok then, you can lead by example and except a few to come live in your house?
Daniel May
actually i wouldnt mind under certain circumstances but im not in europe so yeh :P
+xGoodOldSmurfehx The EU leaders of Europe are tolerant enough.It's the people from the third world countries that don't use there brains,Over populate them self,Of course they stay POOR.Look at the middle east,primitive living,housing shitty,bare land,no farming.God said"God help those ,who help them self"What they need is the PILL,and not hand out from the world,We did this for ages.Like Kennedy said"don't ask what the country can for you,but ask what you can do for YOUR country"
Henry Andriese
well i never said otherwise but Kennedy's quote is irrelevant
let me explain
you should always do what you can for your people not your country, however your country should always do what it can for you, thus creating a cycle of retribution and social harmony between everyone
so Kennedy was wrong and with all due respect, his quote is worthless because it lacks wisdom especially for the 21st century and beyond
xGoodOldSmurfehx I ques your right,But if I known the black world countries,they have never standing on there own,always need help from the western world,MONEY,AID FOOD
I got angry when the young man complained about it being dirty, what about cleaning your own rooms and not expect that your mother, sister or anyone else should clean your rooms, all ppl and prisoners of the world do it themselves, so the only dirty thing in there is the ppl who dont clean it themselves, and what makes anyone that entitled that they think everything would be ok just if they get over a border, not even i would get more help than any other person if i crossed illigaly.
At 22.26 man is spitting at italians for not cleaning their living spaces. Seems that they consider themselves to be too valuable to be cleaning their own places. Damn, and still got cigarettes to smoke even though all is so badly
Italians are golden hearted people for the most part, no other country would have done this
we didn't ask them to come .stay in your own country and fight for it !!!!!
If you are sleeping in rubbish, it's your fault, clean it up
It's called bail. You broke the law and went to jail, it's not "kidnapping"... ROFLMAO!!
I like how he shows the sleeping rooms and says:" this is all shit" and spits on it.
He is a poor dealer/ junkie. You see him as being sweaty
Lol
Is everything that Vice posts violent or bad?
I mean, I get that our world is a pretty mean place, but seriously?
This is the VICE News channel. The regular VICE channel posts about weed, food and other stuff like that.
Guess that makes sense.
I don't see any reason why the Italians should go out into international waters to save anyone other than an Italian Citizen. Libya's government should be the ones trying to regulate the flow out of the country, and Italians the flow in. Of course, Libya is a shit hole, so I say, just let these people die at sea. Each one costs tens of thousands if not millions to save, and for what? Just to be sent back, or to become an unskilled laborer in Europe? Not worth it. They'll learn and stop coming eventually.