Ep: 1776-0009 Lets talk barrels w/ Clark Curnutt & Preacher
Вставка
- Опубліковано 10 гру 2023
- On today's episode Mike and Kyle talk to Clark Curnutt and Preacher PRS experts about barrels and nerd out on data and info. This is the episode to watch here! Hope you enjoy!
Clark Curnutt is multi-discipline competitive shooter. Ballistics nerd. Hobby gunsmif and relentlessly pursuing precision. (Short and sweet bio, gotta love it)
Clark's Instagram: /
Phillip "Preacher" Musick has been involved in shooting sports for 10+ years in disciplines from 3 Gun to PRS. After coming onboard at Sons of Liberty Gun Works in 2021 he began training and shooting more often. In those three years has logged 128 hours of time in various classes from high level instructors.
Preacher's Instagram: /
Be sure to visit our websites:
www.SOLGW.com
www.GreenDragonTrading.co
Spotify for Podcasters:
podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh... - Розваги
Great listen.
I always enjoy listening to Clark
Amazing dude full of knowledge... love to nerd out on materials and barrels
Gents, I made it to the end, and it was certainly worth it. Feel free to take as many podcasts as you want deep into the weeds, we'll follow you there and enjoy nerding out together 🤣
Good stuff. You guys should continue this topic and go front to back covering all the things that affect precision in a gas gun.
I can listen to this for hours. Great stuff gents.
No problem making it to the end. Very good information. Thanks for the time.
Made it to the end 😂 Very interesting and I am now rethinking my next build!
Thank you!!
Made it to the end and shared it with my buddies at work. I swear I learn something every time Clark talks. I miss my Texas crew but quality content like this definitely helps.
When Mike says we’re gonna nerd out some in this. I understand what they’re talking about what does that mean lol. Just interesting how our beloved black rifle continues to get better.
Flat out excellent podcast, thank you for being such a source for education. The integrity to launch a whole new product while flat out stating your beliefs contrary to the mentality that drove you to produce it is something I can’t recall having ever seen.
Loved this. Great show! So much nitty gritty details.
Subscribed because of this episode 🤝
This was a great way to learn while I was on the treadmill in the mornings this week.
This was a great episode, thanks guys!
This is one of the greatest podcasts you guys put out. I love the technical info
Definitely enjoyed listening to the process of how y’all are growing and pushing the mark of excellence forward.
This was very informative for me. Thank you!
This was a fantastic learning experience. Thank you all very much for spending the time and effort to produce this.
Thoroughly enjoyed the podcast. Eager for more information. 👊
Fantastic content, much appreciated. Looking forward to 6Max barrels!
I love nerd maxxing about blasters. Thanks guys.
Awesome podcast guys! Enjoyed every bit of it!
From start to finish that was one of the most informative podcast ever. Your two guests were extremely knowledgeable. I got to go to barrel class and take notes. Thanks, it was great.
This was a great listen
Would love to see another nerd episode like this on the new precision barrels. Any muzzles and installation suggestions for maximizing accuracy?
Just found this podcast, loved it
Keep these podcasts comin!!
Finally, some really nerdy stuff. I was almost hard the whole time listening to this episode.
The discussion starting around 20 mins, about what barrel maker alone means -- good stuff Mike and I see why it's a favorite topic to read about. Fools on the internet love to talk like experts when they aren't even rookies yet. Thanks for bringing Clark on to discuss this subject. Reminded me a bit of DPW Kenny's videos talking about steps that make for a precise finished product.
Also, Clark's road/pothole analogy to bore cleaning was short & sweet, center bullseye.
I also made it to the end, easily. Nothing but good stuff.
As a CNC operator/ machinist this was a incredible episode
What an excellent podcast, loved it! The one thing I’m surprised wasn’t touched on however was your decision to QPQ your barrels vs chrome lining them. I know it was discussed a little with Chuck in a video a few years ago, but I would have enjoyed a more in depth discussion about it! Keep it up gents!!
I love nerd episodes so much🤙
Solid stuff. Wasn’t in the weeds for me. Thirsty for more tech info. 😎
Very interesting topic for a podcast. As a newbie in this hobby of just several years this has been uplifting info. Continue the good work and Clark being the precision barrel maker and shooter he is try having some talks about how he and yall as a group do your optic zeros and yardage for zeros, setups and sleds or bags for the zeroing of optics. Keep up the good work
Patiently waiting for 6mm Max barrels. What twist rate are you guys using? 1 in 8 or going to 1 in 7.5?
It’s usually a generous muzzle due to erosion that ruins accuracy.
I guess I'm a nerd because I understood everything you guys were explaining lol.
Outside of PRS type matches I think accuracy is over rated . Case and point . I have BA 223W 14.5 Premium Black Series barrel . I have absolutely 0 issues hitting 6" steel plate at 100 - 300Y. My rig with decent ammo shoots 1.8 to 2 more pretty consistently. The fucktard on forums will tell you that is absolutely horrible. Those fucktards do not shoot matches like I di and di nothing but bitch and complain. This is another reason why I terminated all gun forums and groups years ago . Very rare do any of those idiots offer an good info ..
I wish you guys would a deep dive into barrel profiles and how that plays a factor . I'll be the first to tell you I'm not a fan of Gov Profile barrels and I'll never buy one unless it's for a US DOD Clone Upper . I've never been a fan of them and never will be . IMO which isn't much by the way my favorite barrel profiles are the ones that are 0.710 - 0.750 diameter under the RAIL and then have continuous taper after the gas block . MIDWEIGHT profile that tapers off is my perfect barrel Profile. BA Hanson is 0.715 to 0.750 gas block and then Tapers down . Other barrel profiles do the same that's just what I'm using as reference. Or Criterion Core is another solid example..
Centurion MIDWEIGHT HF , LMT MRP , Criterion Core and BA Hanson are my favorite barrels .
Colt , LMT and Centurion ive been using the most.
Cannot wait until your New Button Cut and HF V2 Barrel Profile come out . No offense but thats the main reason why i have not bought any if your uppers because im not a fan Gov Profile barrels
Good to hear about the v2 profile. The only thing I didn't like about solgw rifles was the gov profile of the barrel. I usually build my own, but I might order a complete rifle with that profile now. Will it have a dimpled, pinned gas block?
It wasn’t to deep into the weeds for me, thanks for sharing and please keep it coming
Question related to twist rate. What's the deal with BCM's KD4 barrel 1 in 7.7" twist which they say is optimized for 77 Gr. OTM. How does this stack up on paper vs. 1 in 7" or 1 in 8"?
I built a 12.5 SOLGW A5 about 2 years ago. Now have over 9k rds suppressed 98% of the time. I think the gas port has some erosion because ejection is at 1 o'clock suppressed now. Changed buffer weight to A5-H3( original A5-H2 buffer weight at 8k rds the spring pin backed out and got stuck buffer in tube) now at about 2 o'clock ejection pattern. Accuracy is still good for what I use it for. Need to do another build with one of your new barrels and DARC lower
Try a stiffer or longer spring, or a Vltor setup.
Nerds! Me too though. 😂
First off, LOVE the discussion. Stellar. Sons has been transparent about OEMs… who is making your CHF barrel as OEM? I fully understand all you said about different tiers within OEM production and your own QC, this isn’t a rush to judge, just genuinely curious.
They don't have a CHF offering. The new barrels if that's what you are referring to, are 416r stainless, and the are under an NDA and not currently disclosing the OEM. The price point rules out some companies as far as the blanks go, but that still doesn't narrow it down that much lol.
@@kennethkanaiff6242 brother, I appreciate the reply, but in the video they literally said they're beginning a new line of CHF barrels.
Yeah that got nerdy, but I learned a lot.
Geissele uses a 4140 CHF CL barrel which I find interesting.
Does bore diameter grow, aside from erosion, due to chamber/bore pressures pushing outwards?
So a 4150 cmv nitride button barrel is not necessary going to die before a CHF chrome lined phosphate barrel would????
Great show!, I'm considering buying a 13.7 solgw 300 blk barrel, is there any advantage/ disadvantages with that length barrel? I'm thinking of primarily using supers with a can for hunting, and occasionally using subs. Thx!
You'd be much better to ask through email or phone.
Ive heard bad things about "Carbon Rings" in bores. What's the best way to deal with/prevent a carbon ring?
Yeah I’m interested in 6max. Where can I find dies for that
Hey guys, Only about 37 min in. Have a quick question. . . so the new precision barrels. . . is there a tremendous difference between them and the barrel that came with the "E INDIA MATCH START KIT 18 .223 WYLDE" that you've offered at brownells and other retailers?
Completely different barrels. Different manufacturers, rifling, material. The kit you are describing uses a BA made pipe.
Go Pack Go!
What are the downsides from a reliability standpoint (if any) by trying to make a barrel as precise as possible? For example, does it make sense to make a "go-to-war" rifle as precise as possible, or are the tolerances so tight that the performance envelope is decreased to very specific conditions (i.e. salt, sand, hot, cold = won't be reliable)?
I wouldn't think a precise barrel would have any effect on reliability.
@@5jjtan extremely tight (but in spec) chamber is one thing I could think of as affecting reliability. It may be better at constraining and controlling the cartridge, but may make it less tolerant of grit, and grime than a slightly looser chamber. Neither is good or bad per-se, just tradeoffs IMO. My example may not even be a good example, but the concept is sound as far as I understand.
Does it matter if the gas port is drilled in the land or groove?
No, it is not.
Where does 720 come from in the equation?
35 5 shot groups? What does that mean? Does that mean you shoot 35 groups and each specific grouping has 5 shots?
@10:22, So, does this mean my BCM CHF lightweight barrel'ed upper is garbage in precission? I have not even fired it yet.
Mike, want to trade an upper?
I can sweeten the deal if need be.
Who is making this chf barrel?
@21:00, reeming, is there anything a person can do, at home, about this?
Maybe, a .223 ball hone ran shortly with some oil?
Question: If the overwhelming majority of. 223/ 5.56 ammo on the market is 55gr & 62gr, why are barrels overwhelmingly 1:7 twist?
Because that’s what the military specification is for I’m guessing. 🤷🏽♂️
It seems my comment got scrubbed. The "industry partner" has you listed on their site. They make great product, why not disclose?
The reddit experts who insist your barrel is trash, unless its CHF and Chrome Lined make me laugh.
Rifles are trash.
Who hurt you?
Customer service
@@SonsofLibertyGunWorks1 guns aren’t accurate. Can’t fix the issue/ or don’t want to- when Americans buy “American made” they automatically expect integrity, which isn’t there.
Kyle looks like John Wayne gayce
35 5 shot groups? What does that mean? Does that mean you shoot 35 groups and each specific grouping has 5 shots?