Vatican Auditor: "Cardinal Pell's Death Shrouded in Mystery"
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- Vatican Auditor: "Cardinal Pell's Death Shrouded in Mystery"
Can you imagine a pilgrimage that takes you to the heart of Italy's spiritual treasures, from the Eucharistic miracles of Lanciano and Orvieto to the hidden gems of Rome and Loretto? Join us as we share our meticulous preparations for this incredible journey, shedding light on the challenges we face, especially when Rob is absent. We also delve into recent news stories, including the mass exodus from the German church and Cardinal Mueller's provocative homily, adding layers of depth and intrigue to our discussion.
Ever wonder why some saints remain incorruptible? We explore this fascinating phenomenon, pondering why these miracles aren't more widely known while also reflecting on the powerful faith they inspire. This episode wouldn't be complete without a deep dive into Cardinal Pell's trials, touching on his unjust accusations and ultimate vindication. We emphasize the importance of seeking the truth, cautioning against the automatic defense of clergy based solely on their conservative or orthodox stance.
The Vatican's current state under Pope Francis, including allegations of financial mismanagement and controversial practices, also takes center stage. We explore the mysterious and potentially foul play-laden death of Cardinal Pell, raising questions that echo the intrigue of a political thriller. From the broader societal issues like the reluctance to define antisemitism, racism, and homophobia, to the personal struggles stemming from the Ashley Madison hack, our conversation spans a wide array of pressing topics. Don't miss our reflections on John Paul II's "Theology of the Body," the debate between globalism and Christian nationalism, and the ever-evolving landscape of faith and societal transformation.
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Love the new intro guys. Patrick has sacrificed so much for Christ. I don't agree with him on everything but noone can doubt the man's courage and integrity. God bless.
Proper English PLEASE. ROB & I. NOT ME & ROB
I live in Melbourne and what happen to Cardinal Pell is an absolute disgrace and their needs to be a
Royal Commission into what went on including Government and Police and the connection with Rome.
Anyone who has been to a high Mass at St Patricks Cathedral could tell you there was no way it could have happened.
Dead men can't sue.
Agree, We were at the kangaroo courts in Melbourne every day supporting the good Cardinal & I can honestly tell you, those who were yelling like little demons against this prince of the church were a hire a crowd clowns. There is way more than meets the eye with the Vatican & ex Vicpol commissioner Graham Ashton. 😠
It's not a disgrace. It's a targeted attack against him by some crazy-powerful or connected people.
Cardinal Pell, such a good man and a Priest of high moral conviction. What he endured for Fidelity to the church is nothing short of Martyrdom. I am sure he did not die of natural causes.
St Irenaeus pray for us
Ask about the CSPa Ratzinger ledger books, lost fifteen books, the 9 ledgers he handed over to ORB ORG OSSS senior members before he was questioned by Ratzinger former pope Benedict - once it became clear - he was accused as the chief Jesuit master of being controller of Erastes Eromenos wing of jesuits - and imprisoned on trumped up charges. Our dearest member cardinal Pell fell on the sword than expose or betray ORB ORG OSSS, SANCTA MADRE OR ANY OF THE OSSS SUPERSYSTEMS.
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ome Home (Cardinal Pell) - Tim Minchin - ua-cam.com/video/EtHOmforqxk/v-deo.html
Great show!
Thank you 🙏
From Perth, Western Australia
Cardinal Pell, pray for us…
How's the Catholic scene out there? I thought it was pretty Protestant (and mostly secular, too.😐🙄)
Pell's family said he was in very good health before the surgery. I have suspected foul play right from the start...
My initial thought when I heard that Cardinal Pell had died was, “O’ Dear God’ they’ve murdered him, God’ have Mercy on Cardinal Pell, give him kind admittance to Your’ Heavenly Kingdom’ Amen 🙏🏻”
“Cardinal Pell was martyred, as was Pope Benedict, they both died for Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ’ “ …. The dogs in the streets know that both of them were murdered, from, Dublin, Ireland 🇮🇪 🇻🇦🙏🏻✝️❣️
When I heard it, I thought that he was killed. I knew Cardinal personally when he was in Melbourne.
Thanks for speaking up for Cardinal Pell, Patrick. Following from Brisbane, Australia
The normal way somebody would die suddenly after that type of operation would be a pulmonary embolus or blood clot, which moves from a leg to the lung. This is easily found on autopsy. Did he not have an autopsy?
I am an emergency doctor.
And you wonder why vigano did not go to rome?
My mind immediately went to Vigano when I saw the title
Wow l never thought of that.
No. I wasn’t wondering. Lol
Patrick is one of my favourite Catholic commentators on the scene today. Thanks so much for sharing this with us!!! Especially with what is going on with ABP. Vigano, Patrick is being vindicated.
Thank you Patrick for looking into the evil committed against Cardinal Pell. I feel there is still much to uncover and I pray it is brought into the open for the good of the Church.
I've heard so much s**t talk about Patrick Coffin but every time I've heard him speak he comes across as the most genuine, reasonable and down to earth guy imaginable.
Yes, very true.
The new soap opera "As the church Turns" takes a dark plot twist.
I am so thankful to have come across your guys' channel. It is refreshing to hear faithful Catholics who are not willing to ignore serious issues. And what your guest said about that we aren't called to "Just pray another novena until the problems go away" (I'm hugely paraphrasing), was exactly on point to what I've been wrestling with. We need to do BOTH - we need to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. Anyway, TLDR: Thanks.
I’m glad you found us!
Good for you, Patrick Coffin.
Thank you from Wagga Wagga, Australia. Cardinal Pell was an inspiration to many and his sufferings under false allegations was horrendous. His faith through this ordeal was a testament to who this ‘giant man ‘was . His death is suspicious and I pray the truth will eventuate. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Glad you will be talking about the trip again!
According to Cardinal Bourke in his interview with Pints Woth Aquinas he advised Pell to have his hip replacement operation in Australia where he had previously had a knee replacement. Pell did not want to leave Rome. Bourke said Pell was very calm before the operation. Italian hospitals are not as safe as other health hospital systems.
American priests stationed in Rome in the 90s and prior used to say that if they needed any major medical procedure, they would always go with “Dr. Twa.” I was shocked at the time that Cardinal Pell would have had an operation in Italy.
There were quite a number of us in Australia who tried to get the Cardinal to go see Dr Qantas, but he wanted to stay in Rome in case manoeuvres for a new Pope had begun.
Vigano is already in hiding for his life. If he shows up for kangaroo court, he’s dead. Maybe Vigano feels he has more fight in him
Hello from Australia...Sky News Australia's Andrew Bolt interviewed Card Pell's brother privately and Bolt said on his prog. last week that Mr Pell confirmed what The Australian newspaper had published..,furthermore Mr Pell had said that the treatment of his brother's body had been "buggered" by the embalmed and his nose was broken.
I followed the Cardinal's life for many years...in Sydney he refused Holy Communion to Gays in Sydney who showed up en mass decked in their Pride regalia with cameras.by the dozen. Is it coincidence that an a nonymous "donor" from the Vatican deposited a large amount t in an Victorian bank for the haters to continue their ghastly campaign.
After all there are Gay cardinals in Rome one of whom I believe had a Pride month flag with him few days ago?..What I have written is NOT hearsay or gossip...u can fact check it all or talk to Andrew Bolt of Sky News Australia...Thanks...may our beloved Cardinal rest in God's Peace
That Italian trip sounds awesome. If you're going to Monte Cassino, get a St. Benedict medal straight from the source. We need St. Benedict in these times.
Mr. Coffin certainly cannot be accused of being rigid, uncharitable or insincere with his rhetoric or approach and we must commend him for that (furthermore, people like a certain Big Man with Small Beard could learn from his example). However, it must be said that Mr. Coffin also deserves the Olympic gold medal for mental acrobatics. Saying that life consists of facts and you have to live it like a judge but then being a Benevacantist yet attending the NO and saying the SSPX is schismatic all at the same time is just world class acrobatics.
AGREED!
At this point, broken CCTV cams are basically just an admission.
a little after 17:00 they stop talking about the plans for the pilgrimage and begin talking about Pell
Bless you
How wonderful. You are all very blessed
Italy? With Anthony? I don’t know if I could survive the fits of laughter! 😆. Oh how I wish I could go. I’ve never been and Patrick has picked the very best places to visit. Oh what a Blessing for yall!
I’m in full agreement with Patrick regarding BXVI’s “renuncio” and Bergoglio’s status. Keep the conversation going-please.
How they treared Cardinal Pell's body and sent him back to Australia, is despicable. You don't dishonour the dead let alone a Cardinal.
Patrick’s a beast 💯 ❤
Glad Patrick pushed things along. The preamble went on forever - like half the show.
Bishop Schneider is adamant that, despite everything, Francis is Pope. How does Patrick cope with this?
Also, I feel most people who are branded as antisemitic, are really anti Zionist, which I believe is a reasonable position to take.
God bless to all and thanks for a great show
Maybe we’ll put out an edited version without the Italy segment
Great conversation guys. Get Patrick on again! And more discussion of Girard
so make sure to come to croatia as well, you will be my dear guests. see ya
Love the new intro guys!!!!
Good morning
wow, patrick looks so different, i didnt even recognize him until i heard his voice. Great work Patrick 👍💪👏❤️
Yes Fr Murr is amazing!!! You would absolutely love him. It would be one of your best shows!!
Great intro video!
Great episode. Agree with Patrick (but not RE SSPX). Sober, obvious & eyes wide open. It’s important to be an unemotional, critical thinker…
Making us watch Rob smoke a cigar is penance …..
😃! Not a penance, but definitely an event!
Inhale, sip, rinse repeat
Good Show, keep up the difficult work.....
Anthony found out it was daily novus ordo mass and almost canceled his tickets
Lmao stop 😂
He would be just as dead as pell!
Much better intro 👍
And Rome will lose the faith!
The late Father Malachi Martin said that the smoke of satan has entered the (Catholic) church.
I live in Sydney. I have worked in a Mortuary. Ive never seen a body damaged in transit. He was 100% knocked. Funny how this story breaks and the Vigano is ex-Commed - like his Excomm takes the heat out of this story. George was murdered.
Where is Cardinal Burke residing now
Will the the trip to Italy include a trip to the cave where St Michael appeared? It’s not too far from Padre Pio site.
He was obviously murdered.
Just like Diana. 😅
Cardinal Pell content starts at 17:12
Well said on the social avalanche that has been linked to this pontificate
No Michael Lofton to lend his expertise?
There I hit the like button. You happy?
Lol. Maybe.
Someone could have a business just selling T-shirts with hilarious things Patrick says. Can weirdos be cute 😂
@PatrickCoffin if Archbishop Vigano had gone to Rome, he would have given the actual heretical pope and his cohorts some sort of authoritative recognition, not to mention, Archbishop Vigano would have been lucky to get out, alive… he’s already in hiding, that means, Archbishop Vigano has more important matters to attend to than a kangaroo court…. We still need Archbishop Vigano breathing, his work for Our Lord’ is not finished, yet! 🇻🇦🙏🏻✝️🇮🇪
Will you start the show please.
may I revieve the grace to go.
Everytime I day somthing negative about synodal or ecuminism, or clegialty.
They simply tell me the church has always had synods , was always coligial, and also wanted to have good relations with all people of all creeds.
Is there a summary description of those things that seperate it from the real synod/coligial/ecumenism (Aka evangelism) that I csn use to respond to such people who see it as just a continuation of old ideas?
6:45 I can speak a single word of Sicilian:
“INCONCEIVABLE!”
Hello
I was wondering what had happened to Patrick.
Big Mike for president ha ha ha
They took the opportunity as it was so close to Pope Benedict's death they were running hot!!!
What's that theme song? It sounds like the Ghost in the Shell theme! What Buddhist theme would've been this "Gregorian (?) Chant"?
It is the Media Vita. It was a popular chant during the Crusades.
@@avoidingbabylon Thank you! It sounds a lot like the opening chant to the Japanese version, but that has female singers.
What happened to movie night in June with Fr. Dave?
We are taking a break from it
Loved your discussion on the movie "Signs." Love this channel!
@@avoidingbabylon Well enjoy your break. We do enjoy the Faith In Film series! Getting Mel Gibson on was stellar.
He can not help anybody if he is dead who else is speaking up you guys a tripping
Saints are in heaven and pray for us. Sorry that bothers you. We like it.
I want to know what happened to Cardinal Pell ? Our only Cardinal , he was mostly loved Perhaps our Government will intervene
I'm Catholic.
In 2018 bergoglio visited our country - Ireland.
I had realised by 2014 that bergoglio was the tip of the spear of the coup d'etat at the Vatican in 2012.
I completely boycotted bergoglios 2018 visit to my country.
I await the day for the restoration of the papacy.
As regards Libero Miloni the Vatican auditor. He was head of Deloittes in Italy before he was appointed as Vatican auditor.
Miloni knows his way around detecting fraud malfeasance.
Give it a rest. 🙄🙄🙄
You're not a Catholic if you reject the authority of the Pope.
@@MeanBeanComedy no difficulty accepting the authority of all popes to 2012
Thanks for your interest.
@@seamusweber8298 Okay. That's still sedevacantism and a heresy.
@@MeanBeanComedy We have had dozens of antipopes. Surely the mere belief, for solid reasons, that we have an antipope can't be schismatic, since we've had so many of them (so at the time those "antipope believers" would have been correct). And because there's no guarantee we won't have more antipopes. Right? As long as you're ready & willing to submit to the true pope and all the doctrines of the Catholic faith, you should be considered faithful.
@MeanBeanComedy is it heresy? How so?
I haven't read anything emanating from the Vatican since 2012 which has changed doctrine/dogma up to 2012.
Yes there have been written statements issued about the climate etc under the guise of papal exhortations, from the Vatican. However the Vatican has not issued any encyclicals which have changed/repealed already existing dogma and doctrine.
I do love me some Patrick.Coffin, even though he blocked me over defending Luisa Piccaretta too vigorously.
Oh, well.
Martin Luther did go in front of his accusers! He was let off! He wasn’t killed.
🙄Another great mystery 🥱🥱🥱
Can you imaigine the level of conspiracy theories on UA-cam, if they posted a theory everytime an old man died unexpectedly.
Probably taken out
FSSPX!
From the UK, I'm concerned at the credibility being given to "Father" Calvin Robinson. He's a lovely sincere guy and a great apologist BUT he's had two years training for the Anglican diaconate, is on his third denomination so far and has virtually zero pastoral experience. He has no serious Catholic credentials but I pray he finds his calling in the USA.
Wish Robinson would just **convert** and go to the FSSP (or maybe SSPX)? He's still trying to be an Anglican-"Catholic," right?
BTW, how is the traditional Catholic scene in the UK (specifically the north), if you know? We may be moving there from Texas, USA. I'm thinking it may be a real shock, because although the mainstream culture here is New Age/spiritual but not religious/practical atheist, much of Texas & the USA is still **very** sincerely Christian, lots of faithful Catholics, & traditional Catholicism has a very strong minority presence here. I gather the UK may be a very different story.
Also, what do you think about stuff like the King's portrait and the blood-covered horses running through London?! Much occult weirdness going on there... Thanks for any info, if you have time to respond. May God bless & guide you and your loved ones, and the UK!
Dr Gavin Ashenden has a very good video about this.
@@Antonia_DI'm from the UK. I'm not an expert, but the Latin Mass Society based in London can give you info on where to attend the TLM in the UK - it's all listed on their website. It seems to me that there are more ICKSP and FSSP churches in the north of England than the south. If you can't locate near to one of those, I recommend the Oratorians. The York Oratory is a wonderful church and community from what I can see remotely (I live in London).
@@dianastevenson131 Thank you so much, Diana! I'll definitely check with with them before we settle on a place to move. We should have a society like that in the US, a central website to promote & connect people with the TLM. I really appreciate your help. Take care & God bless.
Come Home (Cardinal Pell) - Tim Minchin - ua-cam.com/video/EtHOmforqxk/v-deo.html
Nice show in many ways. The use of tobacco though should be considered and maybe replaced with some other manly gesture.
And why is that?
@@avoidingbabylon. The use of tobacco has been found to be harmful to one’s health. The body is a temple.
@Mutasis_Mutandis The FDA has found that there is ZERO increased risk of health problems when smoking one cigar per day or less
Seriously...let the guy enjoy his cigar!
How would one find out about your upcoming pilgrimages?
Tradrecovery has local chapters starting to pop up in cities where the SSPX has a presence. The first Cincinnati meeting went very well apparently. The conference in Montana is happening soon too. The SSPX should be worried.I know that Anthony is SSPX so giving him the heads up.
Lol the SSPX has nothing to be worried about. Anthony isn’t really SSPX, either. Also, last we heard was that the conference was struggling with ticket sales and might not happen at all.
I saw a comment exactly like this on another channel, Cincinnati & everything, minus the Anthony part. Tradrecovery actually has spam bots now 🤣 vids had 0 mention of SSPX
@@avoidingbabylon I'm not a spam bot, I just post what I hear about. If they did struggle to sell tickets...that's news to me.
Please just get to the point instead of saying "the point I am trying to make is ". Just say it for good ness sake.
Cardinal Pell's death sounds a lot like General Patton's death.
Your pilgrimage sounds great, but is smoking going to be allowed? I have not seen your program for a while, but I notice that Rob is smoking which is very unusual today. Smoking would keep me from participating.
1) I’m not going so my smoking won’t affect anything
2) I don’t know what will or won’t be allowed
3) It’s Italy. 1 in 4 Italians smoke.
I like you guys but you talk like Yankees to fast and you read to fast SLOW DOWN!
No I refuse to like or subscribe
Luther has no interest in corruption. He wasas corrupt himself by getting money from the German Princes. The thingbwas similar to Henry VIII. It was mostly about grand larceny.
COLM FLYNN
Vote 1 for Pope PIZZA.
You guys are fools
Thank you for the well thought out comment
I stopped watching the video when I saw one of the gentlemen smoking a CIGAR. I have a problem understanding this cigar culture. That’s vanity…
If you don’t understand it then how can you claim it is vanity??
@@avoidingbabylon. We are not to engage in vain arguments. If you want followers then show some leadership.
You’re literally starting a vain argument right now
@@avoidingbabylon You began the “vain argument “ when you initially replied to Margo.
A little humility goes a long way. You have lost a viewer.
I asked a question in response to an accusation. I don’t see how that shows a lack of humility
The democrats can nominate any body they want on the floor!
President Trump went easy on bid-en
And what about Spain? a country of Saints, Santiago de Compostela, Oviedo where the
cloth that covered Our Lord Jesus head when he was brought down from the Cross.
Avila, Sta. Teresa de Avila, San Juan de la Cruz, San Juan de Avila, Santo Domingo, Santo Domingo de la Calzada, San Thelmo, Marìa Jesus de Agreda the bilocated nun, and all the
martyrs of the 2nd Republic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egeria_(pilgrim) and so much more from San Rosendo,