I had an 18’ raptor. Bought in new in 2018 and owned it until 2021. Truck gained 68k miles in that time period from new. During that period it was in the shop a total of 18 times. 4 for cam phasers, 3 for 4wd issues, 2 for the sunroof track breaking, 2 for the transmission and a whole list of other issues. That was my first and last ford. Best riding truck I’ve had but at what cost…
Holy sh*t. I'm looking into a replacement for my 2016 Rebel which has been absolutely excellent. I was considering the Raptor but after researching I think I'll stick to the Hemi/ZF8HP platforms. Likely a 2019+ Power wagon.
I had the hard shifting transmission issue on purchase of my 2017 with 48k miles. I got the Cobb tuner and put on their transmission tune. 20k later it is still shifting smooth as butter.
Hey with the Cobb tuner you purchased, which transmission tune did you find works best? I thought Cobb had a few different transmission tunes to choose from. Thanks!
@@michaelschuerman2847 I am using simulated stock right now. It is like what you would expect Ford to do on their OEM TMC program. OEM+ was only marginally different and as I am putting in some longer trips right now I just went back to the sim stock. I have not tried sport yet. Tons of threads out there with more information than I have too. Cobb has been great and the Accessport is easy to use too.
Just picked mine up last week. 2019 Oxford white with 42k miles. The truck is full loaded with 802a + recaros. It also has a 4 inch bds loft / fuel wheels on new 37’ toyos. Paid 49.5k out the door.. absolute steal!
I owned a 2018 Gen 2, put roughly 60k miles on it and it had all of those issues. With an added bonus of leaking coolant from one of the turbos which caused it to overheat. I always loved the Raptor but the build quality was subpar and I got rid of it. Best of luck with your truck.
@@rickeyb450 they way it looks they all eventually get the leaking coolant lines. Mine's been leaking for years but very little at first. It has recently started to get worse.
I purchased a 2019 limited which claims to have the raptor engine in there and I do hear on driver side like faint wheel bearing sound tuck only has 43k on it and i do get the hard shifts in low gear when stuck in traffic now. I still have not reset the adaptive learning tables yet or even changed fluid. thanks
100%get the longest warranty you can with any ecoboost. Speaking from experience. Also if you get the oil pan replaced try to get the aluminum one. The plastic ones will leak again.
Facts lol I bought a used one and in 6 months a new trsns...phasers...pinon bearing ...head gaskets..hell even my 4wd was stuck and was driving in 4wd daily. But the warranty fixed all of that. I paid $100 deductible lol
I had a 2019 Raptor. I had the cam phasers and hard shifting issues. I remember once it wouldn't shift out of fourth gear. I was at a stop light and I stepped on the gas only to get that in the wrong gear feeling of not enough power. I was able to put it in manual mode and down shift and after that it was working again. It also had this really hard shift after first starting it up. I would leave work drive about 500 feet and it would shift really hard. Usually just the one time after a cold start. Still loved the truck but had more problems that it should. Now I have a base bronco for half the price and none of the issues.
Hey man. Love Raptors. One of my dream vehicles. There’s a 19’ with 114k miles, maintained meticulously, and has even had new shocks installed by the dealer. I’ve heard these trucks last for 250k miles with no problems, but I’ve heard horror stories as well. Was wondering if you think this is a truck o could trust long term, especially with me running 91+ octane fuel with oil changes every 5k miles
@@ItsZeebs It can be hit or miss. I fell like the 19 and 20’s are a little better for kinks being worked out. I plan to drive my raptor for quite awhile so time will tell on longevity. Biggest thing is just get a Ford ESP warranty so if anything happens you’re covered. But overall I have no regrets with mine!
I really want a Gen 2 Raptor, I’m actually in the market for one but I have so many concerns due to the problems I keep hearing about these trucks. It just seems like they have too many problems to be 40 to 60K premium truck. Reliability is my number one priority and I don’t sense that on this truck. Wondering if I should get a Gen1 or Gen3 instead.
I was in the same boat but after getting my 2019 raptor I feel pretty confident in it being a good daily/road trip truck. Biggest thing is just get a Ford ESP warranty.
I purchased a 2020 raptor with 45k miles about the time you posted your comment. I have hard shifting but the forscan tool is simple. I may try resetting the transmission tables. Otherwise, a very nice truck. I do lots of highway driving. One note I have is the jump from gen2 to gen3 may include a ton of features, but you will also be paying 20k-ish between a 2020 and 2021. That is plenty of money to put into some maintenance work instead of going with the newer vehicle that will likely see issues soon.
It's supposed to shift fast in sport mode. That translates into it feeling hard. It goes through the gears fast. If it's not doing that then something is wrong.
I had hard shifting on my 2019. Took it into ford (warranty) and they replaced the torque converter. Reset the transmission and tbh it still shifts hard. Just don’t want to leave my truck at the dealer for weeks again. Maybe I’ll take it to a better dealer.
If you’re resetting the transmission table. You need to watch the video with Ford that make you Loco channel. He goes through the proper procedure of shifting and driving when you clear the table I did that procedure and it worked fairly well. Still bangs when it down shifted from 5 to 3rd gear.
My 2017 xlt shifts ruff in regular mode between 3-5 gears,up and down shifting on occasion..also,my iwe had issues as well. Just replace check valve and something else and that solve that issue. Banging between three and five gear really drives me bananas.plus my oil pan is saturated with oil every time I change it. Probably need to take it to the dealer.
Hey Jim ! Should I spend 45k on a 2018 raptor with around 50k miles, or is it ok to buy one used with around 80k miles for just under 40k? That’s my current dilemma, debating if paying more for fewer miles is worth it. Not financial advice, but what does your gut tell you?
I was in that same dilemma before I bought mine. I’d say really depends on how long you think you’ll keep it. There’s no harm with an 80k mile raptor, just get that ford esp on it. I knew I would keep it for some years and drive it so I was trying to buy one at the 50-75k mile range. Mine had 59k when I bought it.
@@f1fiftyjimmy agreed! That’s the worst part mentally preparing for the worst (waiting on parts etc) so it ends up taking weeks. I take it in tomorrow so we’ll see.
Metallic rattle for first 2 seconds of startup. Even then they have been known to go another 100,000 miles. $5000 fix if you don't like the sound or it's starting to throw codes.
The cam phaser has been updated. The problem is if you have one of these older cam phaser engines and have a warranty, Ford won’t replace the cam phasers with the updated phasers. So basically you’ll have the same problem after another 40,000 miles.
If I could get your opinion or anyone’s for matter; I actually just dropped off my Raptor at the dealer cause while on the freeway I was cruising at about 80. When I wanted to pass a car and I gave more gas, my transmission started shifting to random gears. It went from 1-4-8-5 etc. RPMs went extremely high, then back to 10th gear then drove normal. This happened to me several times but it’s not consistent. It just happens out of nowhere. However this time, my transmission overheated and started leaking trans fluid. Is this random shifting also known as issue? If so what’s the main issue caused by it? Luckily I purchased the extended warranty but I’m just hoping there’s an updated part or something just as Ford updated the cam phasers. Any input would help a lot!!
I actually every so often get jumpy rpms but its only a certain time. Say I get to work wait 3-4 hours to drive my truck and itll do this right away one time and then it doesn't do it anymore. My guess is for my truck either a tune or getting the transmission memory reset would fix it.
Where is this used extended warranty. When i google ford esp, says doesnt offer warrant past 41,000 miles? What did you pay for it and do you have link?
Ford warranty is definitely key! Crazy what dealers will sell used and not even knowing everything that's been done to it. Buying an offroad purpose truck is definitely more tricky in some ways.
So wait; new shocks at only 50k miles? Right. Maybe if you jump it twice a week. Otherwise theyre good for as long as all the other shocks. No in fact, they will probably last longer if treated like any other F150 shock due to the overbuilt design and external reservoir/bypass systems keeping the oil cooler. These are excellent shocks and unless abused, will last as long as the vehicle.
I had an 18’ raptor. Bought in new in 2018 and owned it until 2021. Truck gained 68k miles in that time period from new. During that period it was in the shop a total of 18 times. 4 for cam phasers, 3 for 4wd issues, 2 for the sunroof track breaking, 2 for the transmission and a whole list of other issues. That was my first and last ford. Best riding truck I’ve had but at what cost…
Damn, thats a lot!
What a piece of junk.
Has anyone ever explained to you what a lemon is 😂😂 Ford would have bought that back if that was true.
Holy sh*t. I'm looking into a replacement for my 2016 Rebel which has been absolutely excellent. I was considering the Raptor but after researching I think I'll stick to the Hemi/ZF8HP platforms. Likely a 2019+ Power wagon.
@@UnderTheRadar-cc7we no it a lemon because each item is fixable and in a reasonable time frame
I had the hard shifting transmission issue on purchase of my 2017 with 48k miles. I got the Cobb tuner and put on their transmission tune. 20k later it is still shifting smooth as butter.
Hey with the Cobb tuner you purchased, which transmission tune did you find works best? I thought Cobb had a few different transmission tunes to choose from. Thanks!
@@michaelschuerman2847 I am using simulated stock right now. It is like what you would expect Ford to do on their OEM TMC program. OEM+ was only marginally different and as I am putting in some longer trips right now I just went back to the sim stock. I have not tried sport yet. Tons of threads out there with more information than I have too. Cobb has been great and the Accessport is easy to use too.
Cheap fix just get for scan and turn off adaptive transmission can fix the hard/slip shifting for free.
You should get the Cobb Accessport tuner. It will change the life of your truck. It's a must IMO
Just picked mine up last week.
2019 Oxford white with 42k miles. The truck is full loaded with 802a + recaros. It also has a 4 inch bds loft / fuel wheels on new 37’ toyos. Paid 49.5k out the door.. absolute steal!
110% a steal
Amazing video!!!
Thank you so much 🙌🏼
Great video bro, very informative and no nonsense like most reviews.
Thanks man!
I owned a 2018 Gen 2, put roughly 60k miles on it and it had all of those issues. With an added bonus of leaking coolant from one of the turbos which caused it to overheat. I always loved the Raptor but the build quality was subpar and I got rid of it. Best of luck with your truck.
@@rickeyb450 they way it looks they all eventually get the leaking coolant lines. Mine's been leaking for years but very little at first. It has recently started to get worse.
Great Info Jim. Thanks !!!
I purchased a 2019 limited which claims to have the raptor engine in there and I do hear on driver side like faint wheel bearing sound tuck only has 43k on it and i do get the hard shifts in low gear when stuck in traffic now. I still have not reset the adaptive learning tables yet or even changed fluid. thanks
100%get the longest warranty you can with any ecoboost. Speaking from experience. Also if you get the oil pan replaced try to get the aluminum one. The plastic ones will leak again.
Ya I’ve heard trying to get the aluminum pan can be a hassle.
Facts lol I bought a used one and in 6 months a new trsns...phasers...pinon bearing ...head gaskets..hell even my 4wd was stuck and was driving in 4wd daily. But the warranty fixed all of that. I paid $100 deductible lol
I had a 2019 Raptor. I had the cam phasers and hard shifting issues. I remember once it wouldn't shift out of fourth gear. I was at a stop light and I stepped on the gas only to get that in the wrong gear feeling of not enough power. I was able to put it in manual mode and down shift and after that it was working again. It also had this really hard shift after first starting it up. I would leave work drive about 500 feet and it would shift really hard. Usually just the one time after a cold start. Still loved the truck but had more problems that it should. Now I have a base bronco for half the price and none of the issues.
Hey man. Love Raptors. One of my dream vehicles. There’s a 19’ with 114k miles, maintained meticulously, and has even had new shocks installed by the dealer. I’ve heard these trucks last for 250k miles with no problems, but I’ve heard horror stories as well. Was wondering if you think this is a truck o could trust long term, especially with me running 91+ octane fuel with oil changes every 5k miles
@@ItsZeebs It can be hit or miss. I fell like the 19 and 20’s are a little better for kinks being worked out. I plan to drive my raptor for quite awhile so time will tell on longevity. Biggest thing is just get a Ford ESP warranty so if anything happens you’re covered. But overall I have no regrets with mine!
I really want a Gen 2 Raptor, I’m actually in the market for one but I have so many concerns due to the problems I keep hearing about these trucks. It just seems like they have too many problems to be 40 to 60K premium truck. Reliability is my number one priority and I don’t sense that on this truck. Wondering if I should get a Gen1 or Gen3 instead.
I was in the same boat but after getting my 2019 raptor I feel pretty confident in it being a good daily/road trip truck. Biggest thing is just get a Ford ESP warranty.
I purchased a 2020 raptor with 45k miles about the time you posted your comment. I have hard shifting but the forscan tool is simple. I may try resetting the transmission tables. Otherwise, a very nice truck. I do lots of highway driving. One note I have is the jump from gen2 to gen3 may include a ton of features, but you will also be paying 20k-ish between a 2020 and 2021. That is plenty of money to put into some maintenance work instead of going with the newer vehicle that will likely see issues soon.
It's supposed to shift fast in sport mode. That translates into it feeling hard. It goes through the gears fast. If it's not doing that then something is wrong.
My 2019 in sports mode shifts hard and fast. I think you're right, but i'm curious how do you know that?
I had hard shifting on my 2019. Took it into ford (warranty) and they replaced the torque converter. Reset the transmission and tbh it still shifts hard. Just don’t want to leave my truck at the dealer for weeks again. Maybe I’ll take it to a better dealer.
Bro I have a new transmission and it shifts hard still
My 2017 has had every single one of these issues. I reset the shift tables using forescan worked great, have not addressed the sunroof or oil pan yet
I need to try do the resetting of the shift tables!
If you’re resetting the transmission table. You need to watch the video with Ford that make you Loco channel. He goes through the proper procedure of shifting and driving when you clear the table I did that procedure and it worked fairly well. Still bangs when it down shifted from 5 to 3rd gear.
My 2017 xlt shifts ruff in regular mode between 3-5 gears,up and down shifting on occasion..also,my iwe had issues as well. Just replace check valve and something else and that solve that issue. Banging between three and five gear really drives me bananas.plus my oil pan is saturated with oil every time I change it. Probably need to take it to the dealer.
I had the same sunroof issue.. thankfully I bought an extended warranty.. that’s a common issue on the 150s..
What if i have the 1 year warranty from ford gold certified. Should i wait the year before buying the esp warranty?
Did you paint your rear wheel wells or how did you make them black instead of white?
@@gymbalaya I have actual plastic wheel wells
I used the Bedliner in a can and sprayed mine.. turned out great, and that stuff is hardier than using paint..
I see a raptor with75k but it’s a ford gold CPO. Would that mean they have taken care of any of these problems before they sell it typically?
It’s a 2018
Hey Jim ! Should I spend 45k on a 2018 raptor with around 50k miles, or is it ok to buy one used with around 80k miles for just under 40k? That’s my current dilemma, debating if paying more for fewer miles is worth it. Not financial advice, but what does your gut tell you?
I was in that same dilemma before I bought mine. I’d say really depends on how long you think you’ll keep it. There’s no harm with an 80k mile raptor, just get that ford esp on it. I knew I would keep it for some years and drive it so I was trying to buy one at the 50-75k mile range. Mine had 59k when I bought it.
What are the sizes of your wheels and tires, and the offset of the Methods?
@@MB-vs2bp ko2 tires 315/70/17 and methods were 17x8.5 +0 offset
What do u think about the Cobb access port? Do u think it’s safe to do a tune with it ?
Looking to purchase a used Raptor. How long do these last with proper care?
I have the same truck in this video, bought new in 2020, put 105k miles on it and haven't had a single issue.
Had my truck for 3 weeks and the phaser rattle started .... Glad I have a warranty.
Ya Is what it is. The worse of it all is just going without the truck!
@@f1fiftyjimmy agreed! That’s the worst part mentally preparing for the worst (waiting on parts etc) so it ends up taking weeks. I take it in tomorrow so we’ll see.
@@VanWohow’d it go??
I’m hearing a lot about the cam phasers. I have a 2019 with 53k miles.. no issues get but what are the symptoms of a cam phaser going bad??
Metallic rattle for first 2 seconds of startup. Even then they have been known to go another 100,000 miles. $5000 fix if you don't like the sound or it's starting to throw codes.
The cam phaser has been updated. The problem is if you have one of these older cam phaser engines and have a warranty, Ford won’t replace the cam phasers with the updated phasers. So basically you’ll have the same problem after another 40,000 miles.
Does any one have or had a miss fire issue? First one took it to dealer, get fix and it just happened again
It's a 2019
If I could get your opinion or anyone’s for matter; I actually just dropped off my Raptor at the dealer cause while on the freeway I was cruising at about 80. When I wanted to pass a car and I gave more gas, my transmission started shifting to random gears. It went from 1-4-8-5 etc. RPMs went extremely high, then back to 10th gear then drove normal. This happened to me several times but it’s not consistent. It just happens out of nowhere. However this time, my transmission overheated and started leaking trans fluid. Is this random shifting also known as issue? If so what’s the main issue caused by it? Luckily I purchased the extended warranty but I’m just hoping there’s an updated part or something just as Ford updated the cam phasers. Any input would help a lot!!
I actually every so often get jumpy rpms but its only a certain time. Say I get to work wait 3-4 hours to drive my truck and itll do this right away one time and then it doesn't do it anymore. My guess is for my truck either a tune or getting the transmission memory reset would fix it.
Where is this used extended warranty. When i google ford esp, says doesnt offer warrant past 41,000 miles?
What did you pay for it and do you have link?
I have a video explaining the Ford Esp warranties with all the links in the description to get you squared away.
Front seat heater burn out also
Ford warranty is definitely key! Crazy what dealers will sell used and not even knowing everything that's been done to it. Buying an offroad purpose truck is definitely more tricky in some ways.
Thinking of purchasing a 2019 raptor 802A package 52k miles should I pull the trigger $$54k
@@jesussosa1579 I paid 49k (before taxes) for my 19 802a package 59k miles (no carbon). I’d try to get it down a little more.
@@f1fiftyjimmy Ok for sure! I’ll definitely try and bring it down closer to that range!
This guys a typical raptor owner. Wants to look bad ass with a pickup truck and takes it to Lowe’s to buy light bulbs and mulch.
@@andrewp4220 actually I’m more of a Home Depot guy.
@@f1fiftyjimmy hahahaha
It's his property, most people buy expensive vehicles as toys
Do you know can you put an ESP warranty on a 2017 with 90K miles? Your videos are really good!
Thanks bro appreciate it! You sure can, you’ll just have to get a used vehicle inspection for about $100-150 and then you can purchase one!
Im getting a trd pro tundra instead, too many end up happenings with the raptor
? Tf the Tundra has way more issues lmao. Good luck with the exploding turbos 😂 I've two buddies that already dumped their tundras
Had to do my cam phasers 5k after warranty expired….lol
would you guys buy a raptor again knowing about all these issues?
You betcha, just try to look for one that's been taking care of if possible and get a Ford ESP warranty. I know someone with two gen 2 raptors.
Definitely, my 2017 has been flawless, zero issues and always fun to drive.
I didn't say 3rd gen tundra. I'm looking at the newer 2nd gen v8 models
Was looking to get a raptor but not anymore
@@kiingmccoy6383 get a 19-20. Love mine
So wait; new shocks at only 50k miles? Right. Maybe if you jump it twice a week. Otherwise theyre good for as long as all the other shocks. No in fact, they will probably last longer if treated like any other F150 shock due to the overbuilt design and external reservoir/bypass systems keeping the oil cooler. These are excellent shocks and unless abused, will last as long as the vehicle.
I have 45,259 miles and I haven't heard this. Raptor 2020
I also have a 2020 and have none of these issues. Ford fixed everything with the 2020 and then stopped the gen 2 😂
how about dont even buy it if they dont replace them cam phasers
I had a 19’ all the problems…The conclusion I came to, FORD makes garbage products!!!
Thank you for convince me to stay away from this truck.
@@charleschenhua your loss 🫡
It’s a Ford that’s why