I was only 6 Months old when this historical conference took place. The 1991 July conference has changed the political landscape of our country the continent at large. Today this glorious movement is led by people who do not champion the struggle of our people. We are new dawn of leaders in the ANC and I'm proud to say as young as we are, we are contesting the space to renew the ANC to its rightful position as liberation movement of Chief Albert Luthuli and others. Aluta
i see my charismatic and historical leader the Great late Oliver Tambo..Aluta continua from Morogoro Tanzania where we host them for years before they went back to South Africa. we miss you guys
This conference was held before I was born but I can feel it in my heart that that this was the organization of the people the organization that was determined to work for the people... It is pity that that today we are dwelling in poverty because few leaders decided to defer the ideal position of this great movement. I weep, I weep, I weep
While we were caught in anticipation of political victory frenzy, the enemy had a strategy to dismantle the movement by absorbing many of its leaders into top economic positions to ensure the exclusive systems were maintained and this changed much of their focus into self enrichment with many becoming instant millionaires, and once such happened it was only a matter before the wheels came off. There are many then young leaders who have become too rich to bother about what they once fought for.
@@mmolokiadmiliakitso8582 would you at least admit that Polokwane conference was the moment died when Zuma ascended to power? Because this was the moment the country elected a clown who drove our country down
@@cliffordsebone3673 What is your actual point? Obviously two-thirds in percentage is anything above 66.6%. ANC missed that mark by 2.9% in the first elections, which is insignificant. If there was a 5% barrier (like in most western democracies) that excludes insiginificant parties from entering the parliament, then ANC would have won a clear two-thirds majority. So they basically decided to give a few parliament seats to insignigicant parties.
Looking back.. This indeed marked the birth of a betterment of South Africa with great, hope & vigor. As to how we got to where we are today.😭 As to how we became
This happened 9 years before my birth and for the fact that this "once this glorious movement of the people" was already liberating my parents from apartheid...liberating them "politically" not economically. That is how they lost it!!!! I am a eff member and will die so but this ANC will forever be great in our hearts!!!!
Where we are as a nation makes me cringe when I look at the hope the general members had on this conference. The leadership team looked steady and solid, the people were unshaken, the vision looked clear and the hopeless had their hopes brought back and the lives lost amounted to something for this great movement that was 😦, well that was before it became a gravy train only few known and connected faces could climb😤
People forget that without the SACP the ANC would struggle to win majority. The other issue is the IFP was big in KZN in 1994. Look at how the capital of the province was Ulundi and Martizburg. The highest number of votes won by the ANC was in 2004, after the formation of the DA. What was left of the NNP was swallowed up by the ANC and the DP and NNP for the DA. It's why Tony Leon always had a government job until he left.
Those days when we as blacks used to have one common goal not now. The party that we thought will bring us total freedom has produced more political parties than any other party in Africa if not the whole world.. Sad indeed.
Aaaaaaaaa gone are the days that is why some of us seem to forget the ANC I will not change to be an ANC I even don't need to be canvassed I am ANC until I leave this earth my salary of three months was 99rands because of my colour viva viva💪💪💪
They couldn't sell their "rainbow nation" story with The Great OIiver Reginald Tambo, no. They needed another face...They needed a Mandela. His "stroke" was always suspicious.
Which conference are you referring to? Are you aware that CR was commanding Worker's union COSATU and was SG of these times. So which backdoor are you talking about? Or you're speaking from a position of hate, which has blinded your thinking?
@@nhlanhlanene4847 The same union that was funded by the Ruperts or Oppenheimers. Look at how the unions have failed the workers. The apartheid wage gap still exist even after 30 years. Cyril can never be praised for anything except that he is rich
@@nhlanhlanene4847 The problem is the system that was created with the formation of these unions. You get deductions from your salary even if you are not a member of a union. Eventually people choose to belong to a union because you can't have your money being deducted for nothing.
I always come back to this clip particularly minute 41:13. God bless and rest the souls of the women who fought for this country and the continent at large.
Thank You to the Founders of the Democratic South Africa (Elders) : Watching the Journeyman pictures video's on Zimbabwe and Joshua Nkomo and Mugabe's rivalry.... And understand this last mile they must fix in SA: 1. Jobs 2. Housing 3. Infrastructure & Service Delivery 4. AU Voting Model similar to EU where parties are voted and represented in the parliament through African citizens votes Zimbabwe was focused on land cause the Household Value and Lifeline, wealth depended on the resources on the land. And now it's time for it's industrial economy to kick in, Still wish our leaders could've done more
How come Thabo Mbeki was replaced by Cyril as chief commission negotiator? Why was Zuma not part of the negotiations team? Who was appointed to be part of negotiations team and what criteria was used in selection? We are in this mess becouse of those choices
The ANC was bought by the west long ago in Lusaka before this congress that's why there was no more talk about the land and nationalization..codesa was nothing but a selling out process. Hanni warned Mandela about what we are seeing today.!!
Robust debate and acting democratically remains the cornerstones of the strength of the ANC. Currently people classify these tenets of democracy "Factionalism" - wrong.
This was a long time ago. Before the gravy train ,Zondo Commission, phalaphala and many other own goals.Cant even recognise these people. Some of them were young, sincere and radical. Now they all have pot bellies with their hands inside cookie jar. Eish
I cry everyday imagining this situation. The biggest problem was allowing the ANC to appoint reserve bank governors & finance ministers. Had they chose not to accept tge responsibility of running these two institutions ANC would have been far & still glorified. Sadly its now a shadow of former self bcs of money. Im glad Zuma lived longer to witness his own encaceration for abusing the nations noble dream,
A true & genuinely focused liberation movement led by ethical induviduals. They were not perfect as no one is. But they were devoted & determined to liberate black people & move them out of the shackles of the incessant poverty and unfair discrimination that was happening at that time. Not what we're witnessing now under the leadership of a self_enriching group of inconsiderate, money_hungry & utterly disrespectful individuals.
@@kellsmothelesi401 You mean around the same time the late Kenneth Kaunda called the like of Thabo Mbeki basket revolutionaries, who even then officials sought to carry clout on who they were we are told
The Anc lost all this. The history, legacy, aspirations of the the people! It is all gone. Greed, direagard for science, fact and reason-total path to destruction. How sad?
I am so disappointed....woow people who decided my future....😡🤬🤬🤬💔💔💔💔, South Africa, God and our encestors are watching you.....these arrangements are forcing me to tears....history will judge some so harshly....💔💔💔💔💔😢😢😢😢😭😭😭
The fall from grace is so enormous,people's hopes dashed as a result of greed,arrogance & love of money driven by conspicuous consumption & crass materialism.
Comrades were still hungry here and focused. Problem started when money came in.
indeed
"Incorruptible: The Story of the Murders of Dulcie September, Anton Lubowski and Chris Hani" by Evelyn Groenink.
Ja immali inkinga enkulu bafo
Thid was still the ANC not what we have today
Eish ungasho uliphinde Vusi
I was only 6 Months old when this historical conference took place. The 1991 July conference has changed the political landscape of our country the continent at large. Today this glorious movement is led by people who do not champion the struggle of our people. We are new dawn of leaders in the ANC and I'm proud to say as young as we are, we are contesting the space to renew the ANC to its rightful position as liberation movement of Chief Albert Luthuli and others. Aluta
Keep up the revolutionary spirit
i see my charismatic and historical leader the Great late Oliver Tambo..Aluta continua from Morogoro Tanzania where we host them for years before they went back to South Africa. we miss you guys
Walter Sisulu too...🙌✊
Much obliged for the selfless generosity of your people in our darkest days.
Dankie Tanzania
This conference was held before I was born but I can feel it in my heart that that this was the organization of the people the organization that was determined to work for the people... It is pity that that today we are dwelling in poverty because few leaders decided to defer the ideal position of this great movement. I weep, I weep, I weep
We are really missing this Comrades
Very true indeed,I weep with you
They were still hungry here.
♥️
@@archienyingwa5274Missing them? Isn't it those very fresh faces now grey and wanting to be rich.
The greatest revolution the world has ever seen ......viva Chris Hani
😂😂😂I was six years in 1991 I'm so happy I just saw my dad in this conference lol thank you for uploading
A dream deferred. This actually makes me cry.
I find myself literally crying too. Hope deferred makes the heart sick indeed. After such a long hard work now this.....
😔😔😔
😂😂😂😂
While we were caught in anticipation of political victory frenzy, the enemy had a strategy to dismantle the movement by absorbing many of its leaders into top economic positions to ensure the exclusive systems were maintained and this changed much of their focus into self enrichment with many becoming instant millionaires, and once such happened it was only a matter before the wheels came off. There are many then young leaders who have become too rich to bother about what they once fought for.
Absolutely
The party I loved before the Polokwane conference came and all hell broke loose.
Limpopo
You can say that again
😔
I CAN ONLY GUESS WE DON'T CODESA OUTCOME IF WE THINK BLACKS HOPE DEFERRED BY POLOKWANE NC. CODESA IS NOW ANC CONSTITUTION.
@@mmolokiadmiliakitso8582 would you at least admit that Polokwane conference was the moment died when Zuma ascended to power? Because this was the moment the country elected a clown who drove our country down
33 years later UKZN WESTVILLE campus still got the same buildings nothing has changed ❤
That's the responsibility of university management
I was at UkZN Westville from 2014 till 2017. It looked like that too. Sport centre
That is the ANC we were proud of, the ANC that managed to attract two thirds of the South African electorate in the first democratic elections 1994!
There was no two-third majority....the only two-third was in 2004.
@@cliffordsebone3673 In 1994 the ANC got 63% (62.7%) of the vote, while the NP as the second in got only 20%.
@@whawha9016 then how is that two-third majority
@@cliffordsebone3673 What is your actual point? Obviously two-thirds in percentage is anything above 66.6%. ANC missed that mark by 2.9% in the first elections, which is insignificant. If there was a 5% barrier (like in most western democracies) that excludes insiginificant parties from entering the parliament, then ANC would have won a clear two-thirds majority. So they basically decided to give a few parliament seats to insignigicant parties.
@@whawha9016 what you wrote here is total nonsense and lack of knowledge
Looking back..
This indeed marked the birth of a betterment of South Africa with great, hope & vigor.
As to how we got to where we are today.😭
As to how we became
Thanks for giving us this Apex CONFERENCE of South Africa. 👏 👏 👏 😁
Missed you with tears in our eyes. RIP our great heroes of our time.
Pure leadership of then. My heart is broken by current factions and greed in the movement that was serving interests of the people
Thank you somuch for uploading this important history of our country
So mbeki used to smoke
Still smokes the pipe.
When ANC used to have true and veritable leaders who offered themselves to serve selflessly✊✊✊
This happened 9 years before my birth and for the fact that this "once this glorious movement of the people" was already liberating my parents from apartheid...liberating them "politically" not economically.
That is how they lost it!!!! I am a eff member and will die so but this ANC will forever be great in our hearts!!!!
Thank you for the video
Where we are as a nation makes me cringe when I look at the hope the general members had on this conference. The leadership team looked steady and solid, the people were unshaken, the vision looked clear and the hopeless had their hopes brought back and the lives lost amounted to something for this great movement that was 😦, well that was before it became a gravy train only few known and connected faces could climb😤
What a great way to.remember our history.
However i am dissapointed in the editor for not identifying all those speakers
People forget that without the SACP the ANC would struggle to win majority. The other issue is the IFP was big in KZN in 1994. Look at how the capital of the province was Ulundi and Martizburg. The highest number of votes won by the ANC was in 2004, after the formation of the DA. What was left of the NNP was swallowed up by the ANC and the DP and NNP for the DA. It's why Tony Leon always had a government job until he left.
Thank you for this video wow❤
Finally a Sisulu and Tambo moment you as the viewer can engage with them as a person and understand the main critical points they stressed.
Congress of future billionaires and millionaires, kade kwathengiswa ngathi
They first sold Hani
Limuwani wa Tshilonwe. This is very informative
Those days when we as blacks used to have one common goal not now. The party that we thought will bring us total freedom has produced more political parties than any other party in Africa if not the whole world.. Sad indeed.
How I wish we can go back and have one commit goal.
But now we are torn apart. Money became problem. You could see that, they were hungry
I can't believe these Vultures calling themselves "Comrades" today destroyed this glorious movement😭😭
So sad
When comrades still had flat stomach""Tenders came and left them pregnant "😂😂
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Blade looks like a garden boy.
You've got to love the singing!....nothing else like it in the world!
Clarity of thought and one purpose of mind.
Aaaaaaaaa gone are the days that is why some of us seem to forget the ANC I will not change to be an ANC I even don't need to be canvassed I am ANC until I leave this earth my salary of three months was 99rands because of my colour viva viva💪💪💪
Interesting thank u for the clip
Can anyone please help me with the song right at beginning of this video clip
Malibongwe igama lamakhosikazi malibongwe! What a time...we shall rise!
They couldn't sell their "rainbow nation" story with The Great OIiver Reginald Tambo, no. They needed another face...They needed a Mandela. His "stroke" was always suspicious.
This ANC National Conference gave us CR through back-doors😭😭😭
Which conference are you referring to?
Are you aware that CR was commanding Worker's union COSATU and was SG of these times.
So which backdoor are you talking about? Or you're speaking from a position of hate, which has blinded your thinking?
@@nhlanhlanene4847 The same union that was funded by the Ruperts or Oppenheimers. Look at how the unions have failed the workers. The apartheid wage gap still exist even after 30 years. Cyril can never be praised for anything except that he is rich
@@truthfulman9044 why they join unions if they know they will fail them. Whose fault is it kanti?
@@nhlanhlanene4847 The problem is the system that was created with the formation of these unions. You get deductions from your salary even if you are not a member of a union. Eventually people choose to belong to a union because you can't have your money being deducted for nothing.
@@nhlanhlanene4847 He was not ANC.
All those icons in the one room. What a moment.
So beautiful. Amazing Stalwarts now lost to time. Everything and everyone were so organized, so disciplined. What happened South Africa?
This was the type of leadership we needed. Not Ace Magushule
Including Cyril
If u could have DD as the deputy president of the country, imagine. Ace is far better I tell u. Cyril is worse to have him on the driver's seat.
Ace is the worst
@@siyandakobokana8697 Cyril is worst too😂
You do not know your enemy
This is where everything packed up and went into disarray will everybody please prove me wrong
I was only 10 years here but I can't that this is Blade Nzimande
This was before Politics of the Stomach!!!!
Thank you for this important History,
Ukhon'umkhonto, umkhonto we sizwe. ✊🏾
Past anc
leaders of integrity sincerity and so articulate so sad to see such potential wasted
How the mighty have fallen 😢
They were never mighty lol, they just came to eat money
Very powerful 👏
I was born in 1994 before this conference but im here today watching, Helman Bongan2024
Where can we get the minutes for this conference so we can see who betrayed the movement and all parties involved
I always come back to this clip particularly minute 41:13. God bless and rest the souls of the women who fought for this country and the continent at large.
Dr Molefi Sehularo😢 All the good one's are dead. ANC ke masepa
Now go setse Bo phunya re bese. Zuma was the first
Oliver Tambo, having done the best was passing the baton over to the one who had already sold out.
So one man sold out and the rest of the comrades just stood n watch..is that what u are saying?
How much were you sold for?
@@nhlanhlanene4847 so you are defending nonsense
Thank You to the Founders of the Democratic South Africa (Elders) :
Watching the Journeyman pictures video's on Zimbabwe and Joshua Nkomo and Mugabe's rivalry....
And understand this last mile they must fix in SA:
1. Jobs
2. Housing
3. Infrastructure & Service Delivery
4. AU Voting Model similar to EU where parties are voted and represented in the parliament through African citizens votes
Zimbabwe was focused on land cause the Household Value and Lifeline, wealth depended on the resources on the land. And now it's time for it's industrial economy to kick in, Still wish our leaders could've done more
The focus here is clear…
Spot on. Not the cacophony of nowadays.
A monumental fall from glory. Watching this made me angry.
How come Thabo Mbeki was replaced by Cyril as chief commission negotiator? Why was Zuma not part of the negotiations team? Who was appointed to be part of negotiations team and what criteria was used in selection? We are in this mess becouse of those choices
Exactly
When ANC had a clear vision
The ANC was bought by the west long ago in Lusaka before this congress that's why there was no more talk about the land and nationalization..codesa was nothing but a selling out process. Hanni warned Mandela about what we are seeing today.!!
When ANC was focused.
Alec Erwin was given the department of trade and industry the one with a white striped shirt. ANC was long infiltrated
Don't forget to also watch COSATU 1st conference. Here is the link ua-cam.com/video/iI3w8STl7xg/v-deo.html
Robust debate and acting democratically remains the cornerstones of the strength of the ANC. Currently people classify these tenets of democracy "Factionalism" - wrong.
This was a long time ago. Before the gravy train ,Zondo Commission, phalaphala and many other own goals.Cant even recognise these people. Some of them were young, sincere and radical. Now they all have pot bellies with their hands inside cookie jar. Eish
How did they have so many delegates? Who organised them?
What a year it was
1991
Glorious movement of the people ❤❤❤😢😢
I cry everyday imagining this situation. The biggest problem was allowing the ANC to appoint reserve bank governors & finance ministers. Had they chose not to accept tge responsibility of running these two institutions ANC would have been far & still glorified. Sadly its now a shadow of former self bcs of money. Im glad Zuma lived longer to witness his own encaceration for abusing the nations noble dream,
That's like accepting a car without a gearbox.
A true & genuinely focused liberation movement led by ethical induviduals. They were not perfect as no one is. But they were devoted & determined to liberate black people & move them out of the shackles of the incessant poverty and unfair discrimination that was happening at that time. Not what we're witnessing now under the leadership of a self_enriching group of inconsiderate, money_hungry & utterly disrespectful individuals.
Bring back that vibe✊skhokhele tambo
Harry "Lion of the midlands" Gwala
You all not know the ANC morogoro conference was about ???
Best NEC ever
Did I hear correct that Mandela asks Lekota to be lenient in discussing a way forward in regard to a free and fair opinions? wow
I think you misheard him.
Used to be a very dignified organisation
When🤔?
During their time in exile, post '85, up until the point they introduced BEE. Can I recommend a few books?
@@kellsmothelesi401 You mean around the same time the late Kenneth Kaunda called the like of Thabo Mbeki basket revolutionaries, who even then officials sought to carry clout on who they were we are told
This was a different Anc indeed
This was the real ANC, i wonder if they watching what we are going through in the current ANC, nithuleleni kodwa leaders kukubi kanjena
When Blade was still sober not now
And real communist
Very educated guy
Blade this guy is very educated
@@LimuwaniMakhale never was communist.
SOLID
This happened in the month of my birth in the year of my birth.
This was solid
Cry my beloved
What an Organization 🖤💚💛
South Africa joyful no more, never has one party of the ANC meant so much to so many and then destroy it all.
Sad indeed.😢
When ANC was not a BACKSTABBING organization.
I was a week old damn.
So where were the guptas
Ziyohamba insizwa, sezosala zikhulunyelwe ibongo. #2024 sisele ne ANC ka Lamaposa manje 😢
✊🏾
The Anc lost all this. The history, legacy, aspirations of the the people! It is all gone. Greed, direagard for science, fact and reason-total path to destruction. How sad?
Brilliant!! U see the ANC is a pure revolutionary movement not a party. South Africa must be great again
The ANC of today is no longer the one we believed in😭😭
Where was the cryl ramaphosa???
This is the ANC I know
Oh boy!
My beautiful country😍😍😍
Where were these comrades: Pravin, Mantashe and Tito Mboweni?
The cameraman couldn't capture everyone.
I am so disappointed....woow people who decided my future....😡🤬🤬🤬💔💔💔💔, South Africa, God and our encestors are watching you.....these arrangements are forcing me to tears....history will judge some so harshly....💔💔💔💔💔😢😢😢😢😭😭😭
Polokwane conference was a slaughterhouse
The fall from grace is so enormous,people's hopes dashed as a result of greed,arrogance & love of money driven by conspicuous consumption & crass materialism.
True indeed my brother!
When ANC was still clean. Presently is diluted with pieces of fieces 😢
Is it just me or did Winnie Mandela seem as though she knew something else either than what Mandela was saying at 1:41:24 ?
9:07
It is just you!
She was thinking about Dali
@@nhlanhlanene4847 Mpofu was smashing
The Iron Duke was there