Valeton GP-100 vs GP-200 - Is their Cheapest Guitar Multi FX Any Good?
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» 0:00 Intro Playing!
» 0:15 Welcome Back!
» 0:25 The Valeton GP-200
» 1:20 The Valeton GP-100
» 2:35 The Gear We Are Using!
» 2:55 Comparing Initial Patches
» 5:10 Comparing Interfaces
» 6:50 Other Features?
» 10:00 More Patches
» 14:23 Inspiration & Value?
» 16:43 The GP-100 Effects Chain
» 18:19 The Looper!
» 20:53 Drums?
» 26:36 Final Thoughts!
» 28:29 Other Options
» 29:14 Let's Hear Some More Patches!
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I challenge you: 2x guitar on GP100, 1 bass on GP100, some drums, cheap mixer and some speakers and run digital band for a grand.
Ok
Great suggestion 😎🎼
I have a GP-100. It's a no brainer. It's less than most individual pedals. I carry one arround as a backup in event everything goes south. On more than one occation I've have a fellow musician have something like a distortion pedal die on them and lent the GP100 to fill in for them. Also get a USB to 9V adapter to go with it anyou can run the thing off a USB power bank litterally all day without running out of power.
This is brilliant, cheap little backup rig.
This right here pretty much sold me on it
It will run off a regular pedal power so if you have a pedal board with a power brick powering your other pedals it will literally run off of that as well GP200 needs a little more power His power adapter is 2 amp
I have both the 100 and 200. They both run off a USB to 9V adapter connected to a USB power bank just fine. The 200 does use more juice though, but it's less than 1A@@jaminjimlp
The Marshall sound is great in GP-100 and got even better when I loaded a IR cab sim someone had made in a Facebook group, but my old Boss Me-70 has a better noise gate.
Got the GP-100 from you guys a month ago and it's actually shocking how good it is for the price.
It takes some dialing in, but when you 've learned how to navigate, you don't even need the laptop software. I love it.
I've had the GP 100 for more than a year now and i like it a lot. The factory presets need to adjusted to suit whatever you're playing it through to sound good, but its very easy to get great sound with minimal effort.
Highly recommend.
I bought a GP200 to be away from my computer and have a quick jam. I love it! I've had way more expensive MFXs, but this one brings me joy, everytime.
Real talk, I'm 20 seconds into the video and just that tone Pete was rocking at the beginning was enough to convince me on this little box...
I own one. It's quite good! Although, I bought mine mostly for bass.
Got the gp100 some weeks ago.
Ideal for noodling around at home.
I bought a used GP100 as a practice device. (Disclaimer: I play guitar for more than 40 years now and I’m an old school „pedals and tube amps“ guy - never really got into that digital stuff) After a few days I just HAD to buy the GP200. Both sound really good, are cheap, sturdy and take little time to learn how to use them. The GP200 has superior functionality, though. Real knobs to tweak the sound, better software, a larger screen, etc. Even if you never owned a programmable multiFX before, you‘ll get great sounds out of both in a minute. And if you are willing to invest more time to get into the depths of these multis, there is almost nothing you can’t do with them. They are so much fun that I totally got sucked down this rabbit hole, much to the chagrin of my bandmates. 😅
Just got the GP 200 about a week ago. Upgraded from Zoom G3X & G3XN. Super great. What’s nice about plug ins is as The Captain says, reamping. I like having clean if not dry guitar sound to capture my technique and have a 2nd channel with distortion. Otherwise going beyond a Crunch gets too muddy. I might get a splitter to keep some of the plain signal to add articulation. Love watching you guys. It’s like an upscale basement or garage hangout and jam. Paid to play semi-pro.
Hey man quick question, can you run multiple of an effect? Say if you wanted to stack modulation or drive
It can't do that, you would need an HX Stomp or something to pull that off.@@sirshadowplay7287
It is great with headphones too. A beginner won't need an amp. The interface on the unit is very logical and easy. I like that one can alter the patches and save/organize them while still keeping the factory preset patches. I am a low intermediate and I practice the same song over and over again... so by changing patches I can fight the boredom of repetition. Using a looper to just hear myself on playback is very helpful. Plus this teaches me what all of the different effects do.
Someone may have done it already, but what I’d love in these units is a series of “sound like” IRs or patches! Imagine just being able to select your favourite artist tone from the menu.
Guessing you can hunt for your fav artist setup amp pedals etc then add to a patch and save
I was going to buy the Quad Cortex for £1499 but you can get the GP-200 and that PRS SE Silver Sky for £798 and have £701 left over...
I have an AC30, DSL40CR, and a GP-200. I love that thing for practice. Its easy to keep quiet and does so many things well. I'm pretty much using it out of the box and I'm sure i am not even close to unlocking its potential. It's still one of my favorite pieces of gear 😊
On holiday I saw a band 4 nights in a row using the gp100 and a squier affinity starcaster and it sounded great.
I bought my gp-200 because of your videos and it’s awesome! I love that thing. It seems intended for live use more than anything but it’s such a great home practice and writing tool as well. Very inspiring.
I bought the 200 JR am slightly disappointed it has no on/off switch
@@Lez325 oh yeah that’s weird. The gp200 has one luckily.
@OfJaggedRisings I know. Still it's a great bit of kit 👌
In answer to Pete’s question. About a week ago I retired a Line 6 HX effects and a Behringer 404hd and a mess of insert cables that I used to feed hardware synth and guitar to DAW. Now I have a Valeton GP200 - synth plugs in to aux-in and appears as usb audio and guitar to regular input and a single usb-c cable 👍 all plugged in to return of my Vox AV30
Main benefit is it all works previously if you turned on something in the wrong order and you spent 20 mins chasing connectivity issues.
Anyways that’s my experience for what it’s worth.
Was just asked by a friend what to get for his first electric guitar setup. I recommended a Squier Affinity Stratocaster, Vox Pathfinder 10, and a Valeton GP100.
I'd love to see a GP-200 with Bass video since it has Bass FX and Amps as well.
Exactly, we need bass!!
200: Thanks for the teaching! I'm new and have no idea what I'm doing on electric lol
I've got the GP-100. I don't really have anything to compare it to, but I like it. At least with the firmware I have (V1.8SP1) you can set the USB interface L and R channels independently to wet and dry and record the signal as you're hearing it on one channel and DI on the other. So reamping with plugins is possible.
One of the other guitarists at my church uses the GP100 to go direct to PA with a Marshall patch. And dammit I wonder to myself why the hell do I use a Helix and expensive pedals 😳🎸
Must be one hell of a rocking church using a Marshall patch
@@No_idea_whatsoever yeah it sure is. I’m thankful they let me play the way I love as opposed to sounding like every other modern worship guitarist with way too much reverb.
@@MrSpeed-lt8gr that's brilliant mate putting your own flavour on things. Hope you have a great Christmas🎸
Read Psalm 119:14.
Andertons might have a future video for this but the GP series just got a nice update with some new effects and they added some of the overdrives to the pre-amp section so you can stack overdrives now
Honest reviews are needed, please listen to the users... please open your ears and thank you Captain❤
2024 still planning to buy the unit hehe
I prefer pedals and amps but sometimes you just want something that you turn on and it just works. No fiddling with power supplies, having to add an additional pedal switcher or MIDI commands to sequence what is on and when, or remembering analogue settings for different specific sounds when more than one pedal is engaged. That’s what these units do. And you don’t need to use interfaces, plug-ins, DI boxes, etc. If anything, once you get past the initial screen-based interface, these are easier to use and coordinate with other gear. The only issue is that you might not like some of the sounds for certain notoriously difficult to nail effects like spring reverbs or fuzzes. In that case you can just the effects loops on these units to substitute in the exact desired effects from specific pedals. These Valeton units sound great, and not just for the money, and the expression pedal like the more expensive flagship units make them even more versatile.
This is the third video on this product I've scrubbed through and I've yet to see anyone using the expression pedal, which is the part of it that interests me the most.
Pete with the Top Gun riff at 3:15 🫡
I bought the gp 100 about 2 years ago and I have had lots of fun with it
Hi Andertons! Maybe it's a lil bit late but I believe it is worth giving a shot the NUX MG30 to make a review with. Definitely comparable with the Valeton GP200. Hope you notice!
Just a correction, the software is not available for iOS it is available for Mac OS.
I have the 100, sat in my effects loop. It fills the gap whenever I fancy something other than reverb or delay AND I use it as volume control for the pedal board.
Bought a gp-200 of you yesterday on the strength of your previous videos 👌
Pete knows the “Top Gun” riff - of course he does :D
I was blown away with the gp200. In a church full of Kemper, Helix, Iridium, it was the best live sound I've heard in there
Wow! Really? (No sarcasm)
Only issue with the 100 is that there is no balanced XLR outs to go direct to the house :( That is one of the great things about the GP-200. You have to go double the price or more to get that single feature from anyone else.
I think they are TRS jacks though so if you use an adapter you can do it
It’s shocking how many decent stock patches are in there and how great it sounds as a whole for that money. Amazing value ❤
Nice one guys, all these Units are so fun I find. Loved the episode when Pete & Digital John got some great tones out of the Hotone unit. Hey valve purists just check them out they are brill 👌
The best IRs are without a doubt York Audio IRs- and they're fairly inexpensive. For 15 bucks you get around 300 different captures of a cab- from every conceivable angle, using multiple mics, and multiple mic placements. And they come ready for Mac users, or windows users- separated out by sample rate and processing depth- so you can use them on basically any unit out there. I use them on my Headrush and the difference they make is incredible. You still have to tweak a little but- that's going to be true no matter where you get an IR. But if you set your amp and cab up properly, they sound so real it's almost impossible to tell my modeler from my tube amp. And that wasn't the case when I took the HR MX5 out of the box- it sounded awful- thin, fizzy, and harsh. I was about to return it and a guy at the local shop asked me if I had tried using an IR- that one suggestion really changed my path drastically. Even just using the Headrush IRs makes a huge difference- but what really sealed the deal was trying a York IR. They have a much faster sample rate and a much higher bit depth- and it really makes a massive difference in the amount of information the unit can pack into a second- which is what makes it sound real. When you hear one that sounds "digital"- what's really happening is the sound you're hearing has much less information per second than what your ears are used to. As a result, it sounds weird or fake. Also the changes within the tone are happening in discreet increments- it's not a smooth transition- which is what your ear is used to. But the more info. you pack into a second- the smoother it all gets, the more real it sounds.
Work for York much?
@@sillysausage4549 LOL_ I wish kid- I'm a fifty something year old retired carpenter from Alabama who just happens to also play in a cover band. That said- are you incapable of simply judging for yourself? Do think York is going to make a fortune off their 1$ sample pack? Think before you speak, shit for brains.
I have the 200 and its the hub of my home rig
To answer Pete's question. I have both a helix lt and helix native. I got them both when the plugin was free with purchase. What is nice I don't have to pull out my helix to record into my DAW. And I can save my patch and add it later to my helix to get the same sound. And if I don't like the sound when I'm mixing I can totally change it without having to rerecord it.
I believe you can also reamp with the Valetons..
Yes, via the USB interface I think
I must admit, since i got my Pod Go, I never use Guitar Rig and have not bothered with the last two updates. Although you can re-amp via USB, I prefer to find a sound and commit to it like i would with a real amp and pedals.
I see Digital John is off on his Christmas break already.
He's back next week!!
Guys, please make a video using the Valeton GP's and AMPERO stomps through the Blackstar AMPED series. Perfect idea for Digital John and Pete to play around with.
Pretty sure it's the same engine because the companies are related
It must be very exciting to be a complete beginner Guitar player and also very confusing with all this Gear right now!!
Not sure if the global eq on the 100 was doing this but in my monitors it sounded like bass frequencies got shelved. Given what this is, it's great in its price range. Seeing this gave me an idea for Andertons though. You guys need a good standardized IR for a V30 loaded cab and a greenback loaded cab. For any of these that allow aftermarket IRs, having a good example of a couple cabs that show how much better they can be might be helpful. I know you're showcasing products out of the box, which is important, but if the laptop is out for the video already, having that element of 'this is what it could sound like' might be useful. Maybe even sell the IR for a fair price if it's a good one
I've had both, the GP-100 was nice, but that GP-200 is WOW. it's really good but I've got Bias FX2 instead now which is just like a spark and just more in terms of FX and I only play by myself. IT's horses for Courses.
I find the GP100 to be a very nice unit to have as a backup. Price is excellent. Soundwise, for me at least, digital models barely cut it. Two analog pedals sound more real, dynamic and more true to the guitar. They may not be as versatile, but who needs 10 tones of versatility?
Ahh the Silver Sky SE. I bought 3 this year. My american strat hasn’t seen stage time since.
it looks like frankenstein, if you are a fender fan boy!
@@Mindboggle100 The world would be boring if we all had the same tastes :-)
My PRS Core 24 has been boxed in favour of my brand new Strat AM Pro 2 (Dark Night) ... tones off the planet :)
I stripped my ,63 strat, sprayed silver chrome & added rear SDHB & twin pup selectors in ........1969
It's kind of a shame y'all didn't even showcase the Volume/Expression Pedal once in the entire 30 minutes even though it's probably the biggest unique selling point for this MFX Pedal
I started with guitar/roland cube. Added a Mooer GE150. Loved the noodling sounds.
NOW have an 8 pedal budget board, 1 watt valve blackstar amp into a 10" cab.
Love the sounds but do forget that I want to play better and not just make different sounds.
Where next?
I'm an old bedroom warrior.
Love the cube
I have both of those pedals GP100 and GP200R (red version ) I love the red! it looks so good. but I also own a Helix which I've had since the pre-sale of them but the GP200 is so light and easy to connect to the PA system at my church that's what I use every Sunday and it has some great tones I made some really great presets as well...they can't beat them for the money that's for sure... oh and on the GP100 I can't remember wether it's the left button or the right but if you hold it down it will switch you between stomp mode and patch mode.
Also I believe a couple guys from Hotone started Valeton
9:40 the problem is that there are too many choices and options. It boils down to preferences and workflow... whatever gets the job done the easiest/fastest
Not just good, but pretty good.
Great little unit. :)
The only thing missing is the option to run it on batteries.
There are several pros and cons for both physical and software/plugin/virtual pedals, which is an essential consideration.. Factors such as cost, space, and sound quality should all be considered. Both physical pedals and digital pedals have similar sound quality so the decision really comes down to cost and space. At the end of the day, producing a great sound or tone is what matters most. This, of course, is largely subjective, and part of the experience of playing guitar (or keyboards) is finding what works best for you. Personally I'm torn between Headrush Line 6 and Valeton.... based on affordability, I'm starting to lean towards Valeton GP-200 !
Before I had a proper interface, I used two Digitech multi-effects pedals as usb inputs, and a Reason demo as a daw
I just ordered the GP-200 30 minutes before this video was posted so I hope this ends well!
Set your expectations low and you'll be extremely happy that's for sure. I love the OCD, Engle+, and Bogner 412 with a touch of mild after signal chorus just enough for stereo.
I think you're going to love it but I hope you got the GP200R I ordered the black and then sold it to get the red the red looks so cool and yes they were doing it before the pod go did it lol
Re Pete's question. A Focusrite interface works well on vocals.
Have you done a head to head against the Donner Arena 2000 vs Valetron GP 200 or 200 LT
In my personal opinion, the best of both worlds comes from using a small 6-10ch mixer with audio interface, and connect everything else to it, then send that to the PC and use a nice DAW to do everything. To be able to clean up the signal or add tweaks, OR, you could just have a DAW and the unit, and nothing else. But, the audio interfaces will have better quality of the signal. But, to be perfectly honest, i dont think the human ear can actually tell the difference between 44.1khz or 48khz in the quality of the recording. Unless you go between 16bits or 24bit, MAYBE.
No, our ear can't discern the difference between 44.1 or 48Khz sample rate- but it can definitely hear the difference between 16 and 24 bit processing. My modeler uses 32-bit floating-point processing and has a 192khz sample rate- and I can definitely hear the difference that makes. Headrush was smart and realized that what ppl really wanted was good tone- not 100 different outputs and inputs- so they put the most emphasis into the processing and sample rate- and it paid off. If you use the right IRs with this unit, imo it sounds better than the Helix, which cost way more.
In Valeton-land, 'Freeman' is indeed Friedman. Best high-gain model in the unit, IMHO.
It's exactly as Lee said , I've got a little eastcoast t style little 15w amp and this little box is AMAZING for 120 quid ...
I can't put me guitar down now . But now I need a better guitar 😅
I use my Katana as a interface. Before that I used my mustang Lt.
I only record to hear back while playing cause I find it better to pay attention to playing then check it after.
Great review as always, though it doesn't start making sense till around 29:30. Pete might consider butting in less and hitting the lemon, garlic and castor oil. lol. Is it just me or do these two look like aliens? Pete displays some genuine musicality and feel on the guitar. Am considering the 200. ty 4 review.
I bougt it but prefer my zoom G1Four most of the time. Very light, way easier to navigate, the controls are betters the screen is better, the effects are better too and 4AA battery operated ! The only thing is the cab sim / IR that are not very good on the G1.
I wish they would just update the processor and the IR on the Zoom and keep all the rest the same.
My concern with cheap gear is not so much anymore sound but overall quality. They tend to break faster but on the other hand you can buy a new one and not break the bank.
This is a valid concern, but I will say even the GP-100 is housed in a fully metal enclosure, and the foot pedal is very solid. I've been using mine playing live every week for over a year now and no issues!
I've had my GP100 for 3 years and the GP200 for well over a year and a half never had any issues both all metal very rugged
@@JaredPitcher The GP-100 pedal is sturdy metal, so is the enclosure.
zoom g1xfour of vaelton gp 100 plz guys gonna get one of them please suggest me what to get
Just to point out you didn't change the cab or as you stated there's an eq on so how are they going to sound anything like they are pretty much the same but you have to actually set them up properly love your videos not a complaint as such just had to say what stuck out to me the gp100 doesn't change the cab automatically
I paid £65 for a mint used GP-100 a few months ago - a real bargain and very happy with it. It also acts as an audio interface so, when connected to a PC via USB (mine even came with a USB cable but I don't think one is included from the factory) you can use all manner of amp and effects simulation software (Guitar Rig, Amplitude etc.) as well as a DAW so recording my horrible playing is a breeze. It's great for practicing, takes headphones, and gives you more effects than you're ever likely to need. As the GP-100 has a looper, a chromatic tuner, drums etc. you do get a lot for your money. So, hook it up to your PC or MAC for best results and the most possibilities. You can also go straight into an amp and the GP-100 allows you to turn off cab simulations in its global default settings which you'll probably want to do if you are playing through your own amp and it saves you having to do it manually each time you switch between patches - can sound a bit off otherwise, although not always, but your ears/mileage may vary.
I recently got my son a Hotone Ravo which is also a very good and reasonably priced multi effects unit and does pretty much the same things as the Valeton and I think its presets are probably slightly better overall. However, presets are just a starting point and as you can save 99 of your own patch creations in addition to the 99 factory ones you have plenty of room to experiment and find your desired sounds and tones. What made me lean towards these two entry level units was their all metal construction - both are very sturdy and well made. A lot of the competition at the same price points have plastic housings and whilst that's fine, considering most of these are only going to be used for home/studio applications, the metal just feels more substantial.
The software for both is excellent and I'd say is the way to get the best out of them - much more user friendly than the controls on the units themselves - which are fine, just a lot more fiddly and slow for making changes - the monitor of a desktop or laptop is far quicker and simpler. I'd recommend either for someone looking to get their first multi-effects unit and starting out with looping, recording and practicing at home, you'll have a lot of fun but even if somehow you don't, at least you haven't invested a mortgage payment on the experiment.
EDIT: if you want to know which amps are being simulated and can't figure it out from the names in the software, the manual explains what most of them are trying to emulate and the same goes for all the effects pedals and cabinets.
I have a Hotone Revo and GP100 and GP200.. I disagree, but yes the Revo has some decent tones itself One of the things I did like about it is that it records the drum track when you use the looper so it will never be off as long as you're not and of course you stop it at the right time lol
Is it better than zoom g1x4?
We need more 3 sec reviews from Pete😅
People would want an interface if they were going to use a mic for anything in their music.
Yes, and if your studio monitors are hooked to your interface you'd have to plug in and out, unless your DAW can handle multiple interfaces. Still figuring out how I'll use it.
Pete....how many different colored watch bands do you have now ???
I was wondering how many looping overdubs can I do with gp100?
I would have killed to have one of these as opposed to the Peavey Decade I started with. I am sure it was my fault but I never could get anything approaching a tone anyone would want to hear.
The latency on my gt1 interface is stupidly quick. The main thing is no mic inputs or phantom power.
I’ve got 200jr and i hated it for the first few months until I got my head around it, but once you get it and (use good quality cables) get your head round it it’s brilliant.
To be honest you will probably find it easier then i. as this was the first pedal I’d bought of any kind
Same here on all counts. It was my first one. I almost returned it because I didn’t know what the hell I was doing. 🤣
Between the Valeton GP 100 and the Hotono Ampero Mini, which one do you see as a better pedal for a bass player? My intention is to use the pedalboard as it is said in the video, as an all in one: live, recording and rehearsal. Thanks
dang! the 100 sounds great. ive spent over 500 bucks just on a looper, phase 90, tuner, flanger, od, reverb, wah, delay, and fuzzface. this thing does it all for 120 bucks. i dont even have a drum machine. ugg
I wish you did a test between for example, Fender Mustang Floor board and Valeton GP-200. just to see how much difference there has been in 11 years. Is it really that much progress in sound and feel??
Vastly Expanding the inspirational Horizons of said noob
10:00 Who are Blink 187 Pete? 😂 A Danish cover band?
Indeed why would you buy a software only solution if you can get the software for free with the gp100 pedal?
I have gp200 and already have problem with usb c socket, first it started being loosed then kept disconnecting. Why they didnt put that usb b in in? Whoever brought usb c should be kicked in butt!
It's a cool little unit for sure. By the way, on other mfx you can switch on the wah by hard pressing forward the pedal. Also, maybe I am wrong but it looks to me that they use the same modeling tech as Hotone (oem / licensing)?
Yes you can switch on the wall by hard pressing the expression pedal also I believe I heard two of the guys from Hotone split off and created Valeton and that it's the same engine used for models but I could be wrong
Is there a way to connect a condenser mic ? (Portable Phantom?)
for £120 this is incredible value!
Lol, we don't want plugins OR a multifx, we plugins AND a multifx!! We want it all man.....all the toys.
everything here is just always great!.. for selling 😂✌
Is it possible to plug it directly to a cabinet without amp head? What ohms does it produce/require?
I love my GP200
I bought a zoom G1on as my first multi effects pedal and it totally sucked. Sitting in a drawer now holding down some papers. These look to be way better.
Yup - we'd agree with you there!
Pete said that the software is for Windows and iOS, he meant MACOS!!
Just got this , the actual amps simulations and distortions are pretty good , great even buy my god the delays and in particular the reverbs are some of the worst ive ever heard , unusable ....the gp100 combined with my old quadraverb and my blackstar ht dual through the clean presets on the valeton straight into my focusrite sounds nearly as good as a reaal valve amp miked up but a lot less hassle ...but if you are buying to use the reverbs and delays you might want to get something else !
You know the tones are pretty decent.
Between the nux mg 30 and the gp 200 valeton what would be your personal choice
Hey you guys.. just wondering... you have Shabat Guitar on your website... why dont you show and play us those guitars on a video???
but i think zoom g1xfour also does good with the looper pedal compared to valeton gp 100
but the difference is it offers lesser effects am i correct???
Sounds like a good device for a price, just too much reverb on all patches for my ears